Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-15 Thread Quim Gil
El dv 14 de 07 del 2006 a les 22:33 +0200, en/na karderio va escriure:

> Here is my attempt  at a large "Made for GNOME" button.

I like the design. However, shouldn't be better a "Made with GNOME"
button? "Made for GNOME" reminds me too much the infamous "Optimized for
Browser X" buttons.

"Made with GNOME" shows the capabilities of the GNOME desktop or
development platform and it doesn't show an exclusive approach (GNOME
applications can work in non-GNOME environments).

I was even thinking of a provocative "Made in GNOME", as if being a
"territory" where GNOME_is_People work, love and live.  :)

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Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Hi :o)

On Sat, 2006-07-15 at 01:13 +0200, AMAZIGH Aneglus wrote:
> > Eek, the website I'm working on is plastered with them :) I wouldn't say
> > they are great though either, I mainly found it handy so as to provide
> > links to places I feel deserve coverage on every page. Also, I'm not
> > such a great graphic artist, so such things, along with tango icons,
> > make my websites more colourful ;)
> >
> 
> if the website you are talking about is [1]. I find it great !

Coar ! Someone looked at my website ! And I get feedback, and it isn't
even my birthday ! Thanks !

> Main quality clear/simple, colors are fine (evenif 2 colors).
> You may :
> - use only one page, there isn't (today) enough content to make several pages.

The content is coming ;) I changed it quite a bit yesterday, the website
is geared to be released with the next version of glipper. After, we
will add gconf support and such then it will be 1.0 time ! (we may not
be great at versioning this, but we have to call it something :) At this
point we will suggest inclusion in GNOME (might as well mention that
now ;).

> - provide 2 css left/right handed people. Actually it would be really
> usefull if this kind of css were supported by browsers, so  that it
> choose automatically the right css. Some think that menus should be on
> the right side for right handed people...

I didn't know this was important for handedness, I could just as easily
stuck this on the right...

> - add current stable/unstable version number with release date in a
> good place (may be just under the logo). I find this too desapointing
> to have to look into the news or in CVS to know if the project is dead
> or not...

That is a very nice idea, I have thought this before, but completely
forgotten about it and probably wouldn't have implemented it. Thanks.

> - Who is working on this project ?

That page is to come, as well as how to join in, translate

> - use ALT+PrtScr to take screenshot of a window. The screenshot
> utility support effects (I know about shadow, it looks like the only
> one) but I don't how to use it with the shortcut. You may create a new
> bind. or use this handy command :

This is what I used, is there something wrong with the shots, apart from
the missing transparency in the top corners (gnome-screenshot bug I
think) ?

> gnome-screenshot --window --border-effect=shadow --delay=5

A drop shadow seems like a good idea, I'll do that next time. Thanks for
that, I didn't know about this functionality. You do realise this means
I now have to edit the help don't you ? :o)

> [2] this one, is just 'too much' but could be revelant somewhere...

Yes, *too* much. A more minimalistic website could be nice, with ways to
submit buttons etc. A "fancywebsitebuttons.org" site could be a benefit
to the libre movement I think, generating interest and a web of links...

I'm planning of at least making a template of this site, with a set of
different stylesheets available for other projects. To be frank, many
libre software sites are horrible, I think they should at least comply
with standards. I may even write a gtk app, that stores site content in
a sqllite database (for example) and spits out static html. No messing
about on the server, and existing sites con just be copy pasted into the
software. I'm sure some hackers could find this useful ;)

Love, Karderio

> 
> [1] http://glipper.sourceforge.net/ (.com redirect to 3w.sourceforge.net)
> [2] 
> http://www.everdusk.be/index.php?page=FR_Plug_in_Gimp_Screenshot_with_style

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Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread AMAZIGH Aneglus
> Eek, the website I'm working on is plastered with them :) I wouldn't say
> they are great though either, I mainly found it handy so as to provide
> links to places I feel deserve coverage on every page. Also, I'm not
> such a great graphic artist, so such things, along with tango icons,
> make my websites more colourful ;)
>

if the website you are talking about is [1]. I find it great !
Main quality clear/simple, colors are fine (evenif 2 colors).
You may :
- use only one page, there isn't (today) enough content to make several pages.
- provide 2 css left/right handed people. Actually it would be really
usefull if this kind of css were supported by browsers, so  that it
choose automatically the right css. Some think that menus should be on
the right side for right handed people...
- add current stable/unstable version number with release date in a
good place (may be just under the logo). I find this too desapointing
to have to look into the news or in CVS to know if the project is dead
or not...
- Who is working on this project ?
- use ALT+PrtScr to take screenshot of a window. The screenshot
utility support effects (I know about shadow, it looks like the only
one) but I don't how to use it with the shortcut. You may create a new
bind. or use this handy command :

gnome-screenshot --window --border-effect=shadow --delay=5

gimp scripts would more usefull to do such effects...
[2] this one, is just 'too much' but could be revelant somewhere...

[1] http://glipper.sourceforge.net/ (.com redirect to 3w.sourceforge.net)
[2] http://www.everdusk.be/index.php?page=FR_Plug_in_Gimp_Screenshot_with_style
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Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread AMAZIGH Aneglus
> here is the attachment.

It's fine !

you may submit this to the badge garden :) and add it to the
MarketingMaterials (it won't hurt anyone I think)
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Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Re :o)

On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 23:42 +0200, AMAZIGH Aneglus wrote:
> 2006/7/14, karderio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Here are another two variations, with the font adjusted in what I think
> > is an acceptable manner.
> 
> I prefer the new ones :)
> the GNOME text is more readable. Are you using the same font that in
> http://www.zwahlendesign.ch/images/badges2/powered_debian_80x15.png ?

Yes, that's the one :)

> I can't decide between 3 and 4.

Me neither, these are my favourite ones also, anybody else have a
preference ?

> It looks like you changed the ratio of the foot on the -3. I may be wrong.

Hmm, I've tried again, but it just seems to come out like this, maybe
scale is imprecise at these small resolutions, or it could be an optical
effect...

> Are you aware of http://live.gnome.org/LogoGuidelines ?

I caught that one, thanks for the heads up !

> > I'll try and do a big brother button later, it will probably read "Made
> > for GNOME", for use on project pages, what do you think ?
> 
> Why not :)

I actually attached it to the mail this time round too ;)

> personnaly I'm not a fan of such badges but some may like to use it.
> Whatever I find them fine. I know people using such badges everywhere
> even in WC :). So it is fine.

Eek, the website I'm working on is plastered with them :) I wouldn't say
they are great though either, I mainly found it handy so as to provide
links to places I feel deserve coverage on every page. Also, I'm not
such a great graphic artist, so such things, along with tango icons,
make my websites more colourful ;)

The other thing is that people use them, so to have one might generate
links to the GNOME website.

Love, Karderio

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Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Re,

I swore never to do this in public, but fate being what fate is : here
is the attachment.

Sorry, I'm going to hide in a corner now.

Love, Karderio

On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 22:33 +0200, karderio wrote:
> Hi :o)
> 
> Here is my attempt  at a large "Made for GNOME" button.
> 
> Same questions apply ;o)
> 
> Love, Karderio


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Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread AMAZIGH Aneglus
2006/7/14, karderio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Here are another two variations, with the font adjusted in what I think
> is an acceptable manner.

I prefer the new ones :)
the GNOME text is more readable. Are you using the same font that in
http://www.zwahlendesign.ch/images/badges2/powered_debian_80x15.png ?

I can't decide between 3 and 4.

It looks like you changed the ratio of the foot on the -3. I may be wrong.

Are you aware of http://live.gnome.org/LogoGuidelines ?

> I'll try and do a big brother button later, it will probably read "Made
> for GNOME", for use on project pages, what do you think ?

Why not :)

personnaly I'm not a fan of such badges but some may like to use it.
Whatever I find them fine. I know people using such badges everywhere
even in WC :). So it is fine.


> Love, Karderio
>

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Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Hi :o)

Here is my attempt  at a large "Made for GNOME" button.

Same questions apply ;o)

Love, Karderio

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Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Re :o)

Here are another two variations, with the font adjusted in what I think
is an acceptable manner.

I'll try and do a big brother button later, it will probably read "Made
for GNOME", for use on project pages, what do you think ?

Love, Karderio



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Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread karderio
Hi :o)

Thanks for the feedback, I'm happy someone looked at this :)

On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 17:54 +0200, AMAZIGH Aneglus wrote:
> I find the text too little could you increase it by 1px ?

Well, it is of course possible, but the button actually respects a
chimeric standard that specifies that the text should be this size[1]...
Could the solution be to provide a big brother to this button ?

> and could you make a version with 1px padding for the gnome foot image
> (so that it doesn't touch the border)

Here is one (attached), I'm actually surprised that this is not too
ridiculously small :) So : which button is better ?

Love, Karderio


[1] http://www.zwahlendesign.ch/en/node/19

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Re: GNOME website button

2006-07-14 Thread AMAZIGH Aneglus
> I have made a GNOME button for the glipper website [1], a png file is
> attached.

I find the text too little could you increase it by 1px ?

and could you make a version with 1px padding for the gnome foot image
(so that it doesn't touch the border)
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