[Marxism] Stopping Trump

2016-03-20 Thread Sean Noonan via Marxism
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In addition to the Truthout piece posted by Lou a few days ago, this is a
pretty good article as well.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-chicago-protest-213728

Earlier in the week Clay stated that the evidence for his claim that the
UIC Pavillion protest was counter productive would come after Tuesday.  Now
Clay claims that since Trump has not been completely shutdown, the UIC
Pavillion protest was ill considered.  Clay's threshold for "success" of
the action is so high it is truly bizarre.  None of the 3K students inside
thought that it was at all realistic that Trump would drop out of the race
after a successful protest inside UIC Pavillion on Friday. The "shut down"
was regarding Trump speaking at UIC (at their university, on their campus)
not at a national level. No one set the bar for success at the UIC
Pavillion as high as Clay has claimed it is. Also, the results of the
primaries last Tuesday show that Trump didn't meaningfully increase his
support, he didn't get a "victim of disruptive protester" bump.   In fact,
data from a Rasmussen survey shows that  majorities or pluralities across
all major demographic variables blamed Trump for the violence at his events
more than the protesters. This isn't a simple replay of 1939 or 1968.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2016/voters_fear_more_political_violence_blame_trump

Many thanks to Lou and Phil for moving the discussion from a comparison
with the SWP's take on events at Madison Square Garden in 1939 up to the
CP's take on Goldwater campaign of 1964.  At this rate we can have a fact
based discussion of the 2016 Anti-Trump UIC Pavillion protest starting
sometime in late April.  Phil asks "Why do so many leftists always go for
the easy targets - Goldwater, Trump - instead of the crucial targets?"  By
Phil's definition of what a real leftist is there are not 3K leftists in a
city of 3 million people.  So the question is silly on its face and does
not apply in the slightest to the people who protested Trump at UIC.  The
UIC protest wasn't organized by the CP or the ISO or any other left party.
The Anti-Trump protest at UIC was the first step into social movement
street politics for the majority of the people protesting.  This fact has
been noted repeatedly.  It is silly to expect people whose politics are a
mixture of identity politics and Sanders style Keynesianism to jump
automatically to a systemic understanding of the greater danger posed to
the working class by HRC than Trump. In reality, Phil's question and Lou's
response is merely sanctimonious preening in isolation and irrelevance.
The majority of those 3K students who protested against Trump don't even
know the Marxist left exists because the Marxist left is so small, so
isolated and so irrelevant. Keeping in mind the Marxist left's miniscule
size and utter lack of influence with working class people can help
Marxmailers avoid asking such plainly silly questions.

Sean Noonan
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[Marxism] Brazil Engulfed by Ruling Class Corruption — and a Dangerous Subversion of Democracy

2016-03-20 Thread Dennis Brasky via Marxism
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Corruption among Brazil’s political class — including the top levels of the
PT — is real and substantial. But Brazil’s plutocrats, their media, and the
upper and middle classes are glaringly exploiting this corruption scandal
to achieve what they have failed for years to accomplish democratically:
the removal of PT from power.

Put simply, this is a campaign to subvert Brazil’s democratic outcomes by
monied factions that have long hated the results of democratic elections,
deceitfully marching under an anti-corruption banner: quite similar to the
1964 coup. Indeed, much of the Brazilian right longs for restoration of the
military dictatorship, and factions at these “anti-corruption” protests
have been openly calling for the end of democracy
.


“Last Sunday, when more than 1 million people took to the streets, polls
indicated

 that once again the crowd was significantly richer, whiter, and more
educated than Brazilians at large.” Nolen similarly reported: “The
half-dozen large anti-corruption demonstrations

 in the past year have been dominated by white and upper-middle-class
protesters, who tend to be supporters of the opposition Brazilian Social
Democratic Party (PSDB), and to have little love for Ms. Rousseff’s
left-leaning Workers’ Party.”

Full - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44483.htm
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[Marxism] Stop Trump

2016-03-20 Thread Ken Hiebert via Marxism
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Philip Ferguson said:
My problem with all this is not anything to do with tactics - I'm not in
the USA and have no interest in tactical advising of people 10,000 miles
away.

My problem is Why Trump?

In 1964 ots of the left got infatuated about Goldwater and were so obsessed
with stopping him being president that they went 'part of the way with LBJ'.

Look at how that ended.

I would have thought the bigest danger is actually Hillary Clinton.  She
really is a war-mongering fake liberal and smart operator.  And far more
likely to be running US Imperialism Inc that a deranged narcissist.

Why do so many leftists always go for the easy targets - Goldwater, Trump -
instead of the crucial targets?

I think it may be worth younger activists listening to veterans from the
1960s because they have seen it all before and drawn some lessons from that.


Ken Hiebert replies:
"Why do so many leftists always go for the easy targets"
Among the people protesting I'm not sure how many would identify themselves as 
leftists.  No doubt, people closer to the struggle can tell us.

"I think it may be worth younger activists listening to veterans..."
We can decide that young people should listen to us., but that doesn't change 
anything. The onus is on us to engage with the younger activists and perhaps 
convince them that we have something useful to say.

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[Marxism] Fwd: The Perils and Promise of Wartime Analysis: Lessons from Syria | Berkeley Journal of Sociology

2016-03-20 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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After five years of conflict, many Western observers continue to 
describe Syria as engulfed in a civil war between “the regime” and 
“rebels”. It’s a narrative that profoundly misunderstands the 
revolutionary project of re-making Syrian civil society.


full: 
http://berkeleyjournal.org/2016/03/the-perils-and-promise-of-wartime-analysis-lessons-from-syria/

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[Marxism] Fwd: Of Christians and Communists: Joel and Ethan Coen’s “Hail, Caesar!” - The Los Angeles Review of Books

2016-03-20 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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(This seems highly unlikely to me.)

I want to argue, though, that while Caesar, like Fink, can be read as a 
sustained reworking of Sullivan’s formal and thematic structures, the 
Coens’ latest work ends up offering a surprisingly complex — and, in 
comparison to Fink, more hopeful — understanding of the political 
possibilities of cinema. I know, I know: such a claim seems implausible 
if not directly counterintuitive, given not just the antic silliness of 
Caesar but also the fact that the Coens are frequently tagged as cynics 
if not outright misanthropes. But I would suggest that Hail, Caesar! 
amounts to a cinematic argument that the personal motivations of the 
Coens — or of any film worker — are entirely beside the point to a 
film’s political value.


full: 
https://lareviewofbooks.org/essay/of-christians-and-communists-joel-and-ethan-coens-hail-caesar

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[Marxism] Fwd: A Different ‘Darkness at Noon’ by Michael Scammell | The New York Review of Books

2016-03-20 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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With the original text of Darkness at Noon now available, Weßel hopes it 
will help to secure for Koestler a much better literary reputation in 
Germany than he has had up to this point. Koestler’s prison memoir, 
Dialogue with Death, incorporated into Spanish Testament and praised by 
Orwell, Sartre, and Camus, among others, was written in German, along 
with his two major novels, The Gladiators and Darkness at Noon, but 
neither of the novels has appeared in its original form, only in 
translations into German from the English versions of the originals (The 
Gladiators was translated from a translation by Edith Simon). As it 
happens, I found four copies of the German original of The Gladiators in 
a Soviet archive many years ago, when doing research for my biography, 
but I was forbidden to copy the novel or bring it out of the country.1 
Weßel plans to obtain and publish it now, and calculates that the 
publication of both The Gladiators and Darkness at Noon in their 
original German will sway German critical opinion and vanquish the 
widespread idea in Germany that Koestler wrote important works only in 
English.


full: 
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/04/07/a-different-darkness-at-noon/

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Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.

2016-03-20 Thread Prashad, Vijay via Marxism
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Of course there is a path forward. I wrote the foreword to Ali Issa's book 
which precisely document those on the ground who are making that path - you can 
get it from Tadween, 
http://tadweenpublishing.com/products/pre-order-against-all-odds-voices-of-popular-struggle-in-iraq.
To say that there is a path forward is not to minimise the immense destruction 
of the regime change policies of US imperialism.
There is an ongoing such attempt in Brazil. My report from the Brazilian 
protests is in today's The Hindu, 
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/brazils-summer-of-discontent/article8377862.ece.
Warm Regards, Vijay.

From: Clay Claiborne >
Date: Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 12:28 PM
To: vijay prashad 
>
Cc: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition 
>
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.

A cynic who believes there is no path forward for these countries is both wrong 
and reactionary. Great civilizations are only temporarily destroyed by war. 
Look at Germany and Japan, now and then. Vietnam now and then.

Clay Claiborne, Director
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Linux Beach Productions
Venice, CA 90291
(310) 581-1536

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On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Prashad, Vijay 
> wrote:
Dear Friend,

There is a great difference between a civilization, which has a much longer 
time frame, and a regime or government. Saddam Hussein's brutal 
regime/government did not eclipse the very great social world of the Iraqi 
people. Those who visited Iraq before 2003 and then after 2003 know exactly 
what I mean by the destruction not only of the regime of Saddam Hussein's 
Ba'ath Party, but also of Iraqi society and - much more dangerously - of Iraqi 
civilization.

A journey to Libya today is much perilous than it was last year, which was more 
dangerous than the year before. With each year, Libya too descends into a 
darkness that is not recognizable to those who lived there even ten years ago. 
Many of the people that I knew who were fervent believers in the revolt of 2011 
are either in exile (such as Fatima Hamroush), dead (such as Salwa Bughaighis) 
or in great despondency (many of them too fearful for their lives to speak on 
the record).

It is hard to understand how anyone can believe that there is a path forward 
for these countries - thrown as they have been into the vortex of chaos.

Warm regards,
Vijay.


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[Marxism] eirigi adopts full right-to-choose position on abortion

2016-03-20 Thread Philip Ferguson via Marxism
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https://theirishrevolution.wordpress.com/2016/03/21/eirigi-fully-supports-womens-right-to-choose-on-abortion/
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[Marxism] Carrier Workers See Costs, Not Benefits, of Global Trade

2016-03-20 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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NY Times, Mar. 20 2016
Carrier Workers See Costs, Not Benefits, of Global Trade
By NELSON D. SCHWARTZ

INDIANAPOLIS — The fuzzy video, shot by a worker on the floor of a 
Carrier factory here in the American heartland last month, captured the 
raging national debate over trade and the future of the working class in 
3 minutes 32 seconds.


“This is strictly a business decision,” a Carrier executive tells 
employees, describing how their 1,400 jobs making furnaces and heating 
equipment will be sent to Mexico. Workers there typically earn about $19 
a day — less than what many on the assembly line here make in an hour. 
As boos and curses erupt from the crowd, the executive says, “Please 
quiet down.”


What came next was nothing of the kind.

Within hours of being posted on Facebook, the video went viral. Three 
days after Carrier’s Feb. 10 announcement, Donald J. Trump seized on the 
video in a Republican presidential debate and made Carrier’s move to 
Mexico a centerpiece of his stump speeches attacking free trade.


Jennifer Shanklin-Hawkins is one of those Carrier workers who listened 
to the announcement on the factory floor. After 14 years on the assembly 
line, she earns $21.22 an hour, enough to put her oldest son through 
college while raising two other children with her husband, a truck driver.


And when she saw Mr. Trump talking about Carrier on the news, all she 
could do was shout “Ye!” at the TV. “I loved it,” she said. “I was 
so happy Trump noticed us.”


In living rooms and barrooms across Indianapolis, conversations with 
Carrier workers like Ms. Shanklin-Hawkins crystallize what has become an 
extraordinary moment in the American political and economic debate. As 
both political parties belatedly recognize the anxiety and deep-seated 
anger of blue-collar workers nationwide, the more-trade-is-good 
bipartisan consensus that has long held sway in Washington is being 
sundered.


What isn’t evident in the video — or in the furious debate it has 
spawned — is that both the company and its soon-to-be former employees 
are reacting to the same transformative quarter-century of American 
economic policy aimed at lowering trade barriers and staying globally 
competitive.


“We have to look around the corner and see how this market will change 
in order to invest and stay in business for another 100 years,” said 
Robert McDonough, a senior executive at Carrier’s parent company, United 
Technologies. “You can blink and see your market position erode.”


The rub is that the costs and benefits aren’t distributed equally. 
Global trade has produced big gains for Americans, like more affordable 
goods — clothes, computers, even air-conditioners — and led to a more 
advanced economy.


At the same time, a chronic trade deficit and an overvalued dollar have 
caused factory jobs to dry up, contributing to a deep divide between the 
political and economic elite and the rest of the nation. Perhaps a clash 
was inevitable.


Consider the case of Ms. Shanklin-Hawkins. While she says she won’t be 
voting for Mr. Trump and considers him a racist, she applauds his 
message on trade. She says she plans to vote for Senator Bernie Sanders 
of Vermont, who similarly blasts free trade, but from the left. The two 
populist candidates may be political opposites, but when it comes to the 
downside of globalization, Mr. Sanders and Mr. Trump are speaking to her 
with one voice.


In fact, many Carrier workers here say that it was not so much Mr. 
Trump’s nativist talk on illegal immigrants or his anti-Muslim 
statements that has fired them up. Instead, it was hearing a leading 
presidential candidate acknowledging just how much economic ground 
they’ve lost — and promising to do something about it.


Mr. Trump has repudiated decades of G.O.P. support for free trade, 
calling for heavy tariffs on Mexican-made goods from the likes of 
Carrier. This has helped put him within arm’s reach of the Republican 
nomination.


Opposition to trade deals has also galvanized supporters of Mr. Sanders, 
helping him unexpectedly win the Michigan Democratic primary this month. 
At the same time, it has forced his rival Hillary Clinton to distance 
herself from trade agreements she once supported, like the proposed 
12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership and the North American Free Trade 
Agreement, the 1994 deal with Mexico that is an important part of 
President Bill Clinton’s political legacy.


Exit polls after the Michigan primary , for example, showed that a clear 
majority of both Republican and Democratic voters believe international 
trade costs the American economy more jobs than it creates.


Nicole 

Re: [Marxism] Stop Trump

2016-03-20 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 3/20/16 6:08 PM, Philip Ferguson via Marxism wrote:

Why do so many leftists always go for the easy targets - Goldwater, Trump -
instead of the crucial targets?


The gift from the CPUSA that keeps on giving.

(And they are for Clinton, not Sanders.)
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[Marxism] Stop Trump

2016-03-20 Thread Philip Ferguson via Marxism
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My problem with all this is not anything to do with tactics - I'm not in
the USA and have no interest in tactical advising of people 10,000 miles
away.

My problem is Why Trump?

In 1964 ots of the left got infatuated about Goldwater and were so obsessed
with stopping him being president that they went 'part of the way with LBJ'.

Look at how that ended.

I would have thought the bigest danger is actually Hillary Clinton.  She
really is a war-mongering fake liberal and smart operator.  And far more
likely to be running US Imperialism Inc that a deranged narcissist.

Why do so many leftists always go for the easy targets - Goldwater, Trump -
instead of the crucial targets?

I think it may be worth younger activists listening to veterans from the
1960s because they have seen it all before and drawn some lessons from that.

Phil
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[Marxism] The limitations of (NZ) electoral democracy and the need for a political alternative

2016-03-20 Thread Philip Ferguson via Marxism
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It's about the NZ situation, but hopefully has a wider relevance:
https://rdln.wordpress.com/2016/03/21/the-limitations-of-nz-electoral-democracy-and-the-need-for-a-political-alternative/
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[Marxism] Fwd: Pulp Nonfiction | Dissent Magazine

2016-03-20 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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Invisible Ink: My Mother’s Secret Love Affair with a Famous Cartoonist
by Bill Griffith
Fantagraphic Books, 2015. 208 pp.

Weird Love: You Know You Want It
edited by Craig Yoe and Clizia Gussoni
IDW/Yoe Books, 2015, unpaged [160 pp.]

Before social media, where did the outcasts and the rebels, the weirdos 
and the freaks, turn for their fix of unpopular culture? One such world 
was Underground Comix. The genre emerged as the generational rebellion 
of the 1960s met the twilight of the pulp-fiction era, whose afterglow 
was still vibrant in the minds of budding comic artists, among them R. 
Crumb and Gilbert Shelton.



full: 
https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/pulp-nonfiction-bill-griffith-invisible-ink-zippy-underground-comix

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Re: [Marxism] SWP denounces Chicago protests against Trump

2016-03-20 Thread Mark Lause via Marxism
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This is really very consistent with the SWP position in the past on this.
I well remember its dogmatic rigidity over this during the Nazi marches in
Skokie and downtown.   And that was uniformed Nazis not just a media
blowhard.

ML
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Re: [Marxism] "BDS - a Jewish Civil War on American campuses" sorry about name mixup1`

2016-03-20 Thread DW via Marxism
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In used the incorrect acronym for "ARG" in my reply to them. I should of
used "AGR" instead. Sorry about that.

David
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Re: [Marxism] "BDS - a Jewish Civil War on American campuses"

2016-03-20 Thread DW via Marxism
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AGR's complaint about Tony Greenstein and downplaying of Palestinian agency
is, largely, correct in this instance. But on the other hand, his blog
(TG's) is mostly accurate *factually* despite this. AGR's stretched
metaphor about the American Civil War I'll let pass.

TG is in Britain the most important columnist on the Marxist left with
regarding to slaying of the increasing adaptation by a minority on the left
to the "Atzmon effect" and the dovetailing of some on the left with the
Zionist belief that one *should* put an equal sign between "Zionism" and
"Jews".

And Tony is active on the "Jewish Left", obviously, dealing with issues of
anti-semitism and Zionism. I think at worse it's unfortunate he did *indeed*
play down the clearly the active leadership role Palestinians play in the
BDS movement today. But the fact is, contrary to AGR...it's a *good thing"
generally that BDS be taken up, in the U.S. especially, *not as an
extension of the Palestinian liberation movement* but as a *U.S.*
anti-Imperialist movement in a united front type formation that seeks to
win over the whole of the American people to defense of Palestinians and
exposure of their oppression by Israel and Zionism. Otherwise, in fact, it
becomes simply an extension of a narrow Palestinian exile politics and will
doom it to failure. In the U.S. BDS has become the form by which all
discussions around the U.S. relationship with Israel, and Israel's
oppression. It is really the only forum by which the specific oppression of
Palestinians in Gaza during the assault there was given an ongoing
discussion. Gaza, more than anything, is what gave BDS some air under it's
wings.

The fact that Jewish-Americans play such a predominate role in BDS is
because it is in fact a reflection in *small part* of that 'civil war'
among Jewish-Americans over Zionism/Israel. Many BDS committees on campus,
especially those without an active political Arab constituency, are often
started by Jewish-American students. AGR seems to either deny this reality
or is "opposed" to it for some reason having to do with exclusive(?)
Palestinian agency. I'm *glad* Jewish-American students do this.
Regardless...the success of BDS will be when and if they can break out of
both the Arab and Jewish-American/leftist ghettos and develop a broad-based
leadership and organization beyond these groups, especially among labor,
and Latino and Black student groups.

Anti-Zionism IS being attacked as anti-Semitism. That is because on
*campus* it is Zionist groups allied with reactionary conservative one's,
like David Horowitz's latch up, that is leading the charge and thus it
becomes a "Jewish" issue. I would argue it's important for Jewish-American
students in BDS and the BDS more over, to refocus, as AGR implies and I
would agree with, around the issue of *Palestine* as much as possible. But
we can't always control that narrative as AGR suggests.
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Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.

2016-03-20 Thread Clay Claiborne via Marxism
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A cynic who believes there is no path forward for these countries is both
wrong and reactionary. Great civilizations are only temporarily destroyed
by war. Look at Germany and Japan, now and then. Vietnam now and then.

Clay Claiborne, Director
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Prashad, Vijay 
wrote:

> Dear Friend,
>
> There is a great difference between a civilization, which has a much
> longer time frame, and a regime or government. Saddam Hussein’s brutal
> regime/government did not eclipse the very great social world of the Iraqi
> people. Those who visited Iraq before 2003 and then after 2003 know exactly
> what I mean by the destruction not only of the regime of Saddam Hussein’s
> Ba’ath Party, but also of Iraqi society and – much more dangerously – of
> Iraqi civilization.
>
> A journey to Libya today is much perilous than it was last year, which was
> more dangerous than the year before. With each year, Libya too descends
> into a darkness that is not recognizable to those who lived there even ten
> years ago. Many of the people that I knew who were fervent believers in the
> revolt of 2011 are either in exile (such as Fatima Hamroush), dead (such as
> Salwa Bughaighis) or in great despondency (many of them too fearful for
> their lives to speak on the record).
>
> It is hard to understand how anyone can believe that there is a path
> forward for these countries – thrown as they have been into the vortex of
> chaos.
>
> Warm regards,
> Vijay.
>
> From: Clay Claiborne >
> Date: Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 10:57 AM
> To: vijay prashad >, Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
> >
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.
>
> "Iraq was a courteous civilization" under Saddam Hussein!
>
> Vijay, you certainly are forgiven to your brutal dictators, as usual. But
> there is something you need to understand, something you all need to
> understand:
>
> Many of the problems Iraq is working out now are the product of those
> decades of brutal dictatorship. The US invasion may have unleashed those
> forces but the dictatorship created them. Any time such a state is
> overthrown, the people have a lot of work to do to get things right again.
> It doesn't matter if an imperialist invasion did it or the people did it
> themselves. The task of rebuilding remains. That is how Iraq is like Libya
> but the solution is not to maintain these brutal dictatorships.
>
> Vijay, I know you love your dictators, but you don't have to live under
> them, do you?
>
> You are all worthless and weak.
>
> Clay Claiborne, Director
> Vietnam: American Holocaust
> Linux Beach Productions
> Venice, CA 90291
> (310) 581-1536
>
> Read my blogs at the Linux Beach <
> http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track>
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Prashad, Vijay via Marxism <
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> Warmly, Vijay.
>
> From: "A.R. G"  >>>
> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 4:02 PM
> To: vijay prashad >>, Activists and scholars in Marxist
> tradition  >>>
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.
>
> Great letter, but unfortunately I do not think Mr. Bush is a member of
> this list and his neocon advisors abandoned the list at some point in the
> 1970s.
>
> Disclaimer: Fuck George W. Bush
>
> - Amith
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 2:27 PM, 

Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.

2016-03-20 Thread Glenn Kissack via Marxism
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>  Any time such a state is overthrown, the people have a lot of work to do to 
> get things right again.
> It doesn't matter if an imperialist invasion did it or the people did it
> themselves. The task of rebuilding remains. That is how Iraq is like Libya
> but the solution is not to maintain these brutal dictatorships.

Clay, I recommend you read Anand Gopal’s book, No Good Men Among the Living. He 
shows how the U.S. intervention in Afghanistan in late 2001 shattered the 
Taliban and sent them back to their villagers, vowing never to fight again. Yet 
within a few years, the Taliban had regrouped and come back. Why? Because the 
“men with guns” that the U.S. maintained in power were political strongmen with 
personal armies who were even more corrupt, brutal and misogynist than the 
Taliban, who had set the bar pretty high for those qualities. 

The U.S. is not in the business of creating more humane and egalitarian 
societies. It’s in the business of maintaining power by allying with men who 
know who to use extreme force to maintain stability. The “imperialist invasion” 
does not make it any easier to “rebuild” — it just substitutes one form of 
brutal rule for another.

> You are all worthless and weak.

Thanks, I had forgotten that.

Glenn


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[Marxism] ... and another thing: re the dumping of Alvarez

2016-03-20 Thread Andrew Pollack via Marxism
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The defeat of Anita Alvarez in the Democratic primary is huge, given her
backing of killer cops and related sins.
A good statement about the context - and good calls for community control
of the police - is at:
http://www.frso.org/about/statements/2015/chicago.htm
(I share that link despite FRSO's batshit manic Stalinism on international
issues.)
On the other hand this article quotes the call by some in the movement in
Chicago for votes for Alvarez's opponents in the primary:
https://www.colorlines.com/articles/watch-young-activists-disrupt-anita-alvarez-fundraiser-say-byeanita
It's one thing for a politician to be forced out of office by mass pressure
- which was the case here as the Party dumped Alvarez for fear of the
growing tide of revolt (including against Emanuel).
It's quite another to call on the masses to actually vote for bourgeois
party politicians as an alternative.
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Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.

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Dear Friend,

There is a great difference between a civilization, which has a much longer 
time frame, and a regime or government. Saddam Hussein’s brutal 
regime/government did not eclipse the very great social world of the Iraqi 
people. Those who visited Iraq before 2003 and then after 2003 know exactly 
what I mean by the destruction not only of the regime of Saddam Hussein’s 
Ba’ath Party, but also of Iraqi society and – much more dangerously – of Iraqi 
civilization.

A journey to Libya today is much perilous than it was last year, which was more 
dangerous than the year before. With each year, Libya too descends into a 
darkness that is not recognizable to those who lived there even ten years ago. 
Many of the people that I knew who were fervent believers in the revolt of 2011 
are either in exile (such as Fatima Hamroush), dead (such as Salwa Bughaighis) 
or in great despondency (many of them too fearful for their lives to speak on 
the record).

It is hard to understand how anyone can believe that there is a path forward 
for these countries – thrown as they have been into the vortex of chaos.

Warm regards,
Vijay.

From: Clay Claiborne >
Date: Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 10:57 AM
To: vijay prashad 
>, Activists and 
scholars in Marxist tradition 
>
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.

"Iraq was a courteous civilization" under Saddam Hussein!

Vijay, you certainly are forgiven to your brutal dictators, as usual. But there 
is something you need to understand, something you all need to understand:

Many of the problems Iraq is working out now are the product of those decades 
of brutal dictatorship. The US invasion may have unleashed those forces but the 
dictatorship created them. Any time such a state is overthrown, the people have 
a lot of work to do to get things right again. It doesn't matter if an 
imperialist invasion did it or the people did it themselves. The task of 
rebuilding remains. That is how Iraq is like Libya but the solution is not to 
maintain these brutal dictatorships.

Vijay, I know you love your dictators, but you don't have to live under them, 
do you?

You are all worthless and weak.

Clay Claiborne, Director
Vietnam: American Holocaust
Linux Beach Productions
Venice, CA 90291
(310) 581-1536

Read my blogs at the Linux Beach 


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He might not be a member of the list per se, but I'm sure the FBI/NSA plants on 
the list would be kind enough to forward it to him and his cronies.
Warmly, Vijay.

From: "A.R. G" 
>>
Date: Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 4:02 PM
To: vijay prashad 
>>,
 Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition 
>>
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.

Great letter, but unfortunately I do not think Mr. Bush is a member of this 
list and his neocon advisors abandoned the list at some point in the 1970s.

Disclaimer: Fuck George W. Bush

- Amith

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19 March 2016.

Dear George W. Bush,

I will never forget this day. It is the day you decided to send in your armies 
to destroy an Iraq already on life-support thanks to the 

Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.

2016-03-20 Thread Clay Claiborne via Marxism
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"Iraq was a courteous civilization" under Saddam Hussein!

Vijay, you certainly are forgiven to your brutal dictators, as usual. But
there is something you need to understand, something you all need to
understand:

Many of the problems Iraq is working out now are the product of those
decades of brutal dictatorship. The US invasion may have unleashed those
forces but the dictatorship created them. Any time such a state is
overthrown, the people have a lot of work to do to get things right again.
It doesn't matter if an imperialist invasion did it or the people did it
themselves. The task of rebuilding remains. That is how Iraq is like Libya
but the solution is not to maintain these brutal dictatorships.

Vijay, I know you love your dictators, but you don't have to live under
them, do you?

You are all worthless and weak.

Clay Claiborne, Director
Vietnam: American Holocaust 
Linux Beach Productions
Venice, CA 90291
(310) 581-1536

Read my blogs at the Linux Beach 


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> cronies.
> Warmly, Vijay.
>
> From: "A.R. G" >
> Date: Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 4:02 PM
> To: vijay prashad >, Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition
> >
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Letter to George W. Bush.
>
> Great letter, but unfortunately I do not think Mr. Bush is a member of
> this list and his neocon advisors abandoned the list at some point in the
> 1970s.
>
> Disclaimer: Fuck George W. Bush
>
> - Amith
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Prashad, Vijay via Marxism <
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> 19 March 2016.
>
> Dear George W. Bush,
>
> I will never forget this day. It is the day you decided to send in your
> armies to destroy an Iraq already on life-support thanks to the sanctions
> regime and to the massive bombardment of the Gulf War 1 pushed by your dad,
> and then the man who followed him - Big Bill Clinton. Fragile Iraq was
> destroyed in 2003. I remember the Iraqi people who suffered the bombardment
> and then the occupation - the families in Baghdad, the farmers in rural
> Diyala, the old lefties hiding as they had already hidden in one or another
> friend's house. These are the Iraqi people, GWB, that you claimed to speak
> for but did not care about.
>
> There is spiritual decadence in the prosecution of that war, and in the
> toxicity that it has spawned inside the United States. Iraq was a courteous
> civilization, now so grievously injured by your injuries.
>
> Yours etc.,
> Vijay Prashad.
>
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[Marxism] Fwd: TAKE THE PORTS! | ROSA LUXEMBURG STIFTUNG NYC

2016-03-20 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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TAKE THE PORTS!
Patrick Bond & Ana Garcia on Global South Export Hubs - March 30 - NYC

From Hong Kong to Mumbai to Durban to Rio de Janeiro, the mega-cities 
of the global South are in flux. Whether it’s real estate developments 
around the World Cup and the Olympic Games in Rio or a massive 
port-petrochemical expansion in Durban, nation-states, municipalities, 
and private capital are pushing grand projects to reshape the urban 
geography. The justifications for these projects are dubious. The 
export-oriented growth that drove these economies for decades has 
sputtered and stalled with no guarantee that it will return. The 
benefits of these projects may turn out to be illusory, but the costs in 
terms of displaced communities, environmental damage, and public debt 
are very real.


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