Re: [Marxism] How to Attract Female Engineers

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Computer programming in its earlier days was a much more female-oriented 
profession than it is today. That was primarily because back during the Second 
World War, US government defense labs hired many recent female college 
graduates with math or science degrees to perform the laborious computations 
that were required for such things a compiling artillery tables and such. Back 
in those days the people who performed such computations were called 
"computers."  During the war the first electronic digital computers were built 
and so some of these young women were then redeployed to program the newfangled 
,machines, so many of the earliest computer programmers were women. Thus, some 
of the most notables in computer science, for example, Admiral Grace Hopper,  
who invented the first compiler, was a developer of early programming languages 
and headed the committee that developed COBOL,  and there were other people 
like Ruth Teitelbaum and Marlyn Meltzer, who were among the first programmers 
 for the ENIAC, which was the first electronic digital computer.

For a long time thereafter, women continued to play a leading role with 
programming. On the other hand, computer programming was not a particularly 
high status profession. Scientists and engineers, amongst others, tended to 
look down upon programming as glorified clerical work. Eventually, attitudes 
changed, and computer programming was re-conceptualized as an engineering 
discipline. Starting in the late 1960s, it started to become fashionable to 
call programmers, software engineers (the term having been coined by another 
female pioneer in computer science, Margaret Hamilton). With this 
reconcptualization of the discipline, the status (and pay) for programmers 
gradually went up. It was now seen as a field that was eminently suitable for 
men, so the numbers of women in the field declined. After all, in the popular 
imagination at least, engineers are supposed to be men.



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Makes sense to me.

It would be interesting to also look at how women are drawn to economics
when their programs prioritize equally social-value oriented research
projects (i.e. to analyze how capitalism fucks up work and family, and how
that could be overcome).
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By LINA NILSSONAPRIL 27, 2015
 THE figures are well known: At Apple 20 percent of tech jobs are held by
women and at Google, only 17 percent. A report by the Congressional Joint
Economic Committee estimates that nationwide about 14 percent of engineers
in the work force are women.

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Re: [Marxism] Marxmail anniversary

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I've been here from the beginning too. 

In the case of LBO-Talk, I think most of the discussion that used to take place 
there has gone over to social media instead.  This list seems to have been less 
effected by this trend, but I don't think the volume here is as high as it used 
to be in years gone by.

One advantage of an email list over social media like Facebook, is that 
everything here is archived, so its easy to find past posts.  You can't say the 
same thing for Facebook.

This list has certainly helped many people to become proficient writers. It is 
doubtful that without this list I would have bothered trying to write for 
publication.

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Happy anniversary! I don't know where Louis gets the energy to have kept this 
going for so long. LBO started at the same time, but it is pretty much dead in 
the water. Pen-l, which is even older, is hanging in there. 
A revolutionary May Day salute to all!
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[Marxism] Doug Enaa Greene on "Lukacs: Lessons for Struggle Today" - lecture at the CME on May2, 2015

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Video here:
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Re: [Marxism] question re Israeli training of US cops

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Here's some info, with links, from an impeccably pro-Zionist source.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/homeland.html

 

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Subject: [Marxism] question re Israeli training of US cops
Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 12:10:45 -0400

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Rania Khalek has a new, good article on Baltimore/Israel policing parallels
-- and collaboration. The headline, and a section in the second half,
emphasizes the latter, i.e. that many US police departments have sent
personnel to Israel for training:
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/israeli-trained-police-invade-baltimore-crackdown-black-lives-matter
Now here's the question: As far as I know, the police/army suppression of
riots in the '60s occurred without any training of US forces by Israel, and
yet were obviously equally bloody, vicious and gratuitous in use of
violence. Same further back in US history.
I raise this because when Ferguson jumped off some seemed to claim that
without Zionist training "our" pigs wouldn't have been as repressive and
well-armed, or at least not as much so.
Frankly that seems like hogwash to me.
But the question then is why is this training and collaboration happening?
My guess is that a) they're junkets, i.e. a good way to pad the
departments' budgets and show the boys a good time, and b) more
importantly, that the Zionists have more training in recent years in crowd
"control" and thus are a little sharper on their game (i.e. the components
of the Empire are leapfrogging each other in combat readiness and
efficiency).
Thoughts?
ps: for a good overview of the fire last time, see:
http://socialistworker.org/2015/05/06/rebellion-and-the-black-working-class
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Re: [Marxism] How to Attract Female Engineers

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9 programming languages and the women who created them

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2920296/application-development/9-programming-languages-and-the-women-who-created-them.html
 

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Computer programming in its earlier days was a much more female-oriented 
profession than it is today. That was primarily because back during the Second 
World War, US government defense labs hired many recent female college 
graduates with math or science degrees to perform the laborious computations 
that were required for such things a compiling artillery tables and such. Back 
in those days the people who performed such computations were called 
"computers."  During the war the first electronic digital computers were built 
and so some of these young women were then redeployed to program the newfangled 
,machines, so many of the earliest computer programmers were women. Thus, some 
of the most notables in computer science, for example, Admiral Grace Hopper,  
who invented the first compiler, was a developer of early programming languages 
and headed the committee that developed COBOL,  and there were other people 
like Ruth Teitelbaum and Marlyn Meltzer, who were among the first programmers 
 for the ENIAC, which was the first electronic digital computer.

For a long time thereafter, women continued to play a leading role with 
programming. On the other hand, computer programming was not a particularly 
high status profession. Scientists and engineers, amongst others, tended to 
look down upon programming as glorified clerical work. Eventually, attitudes 
changed, and computer programming was re-conceptualized as an engineering 
discipline. Starting in the late 1960s, it started to become fashionable to 
call programmers, software engineers (the term having been coined by another 
female pioneer in computer science, Margaret Hamilton). With this 
reconcptualization of the discipline, the status (and pay) for programmers 
gradually went up. It was now seen as a field that was eminently suitable for 
men, so the numbers of women in the field declined. After all, in the popular 
imagination at least, engineers are supposed to be men.



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Subject: [Marxism] How to Attract Female Engineers
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Makes sense to me.

It would be interesting to also look at how women are drawn to economics
when their programs prioritize equally social-value oriented research
projects (i.e. to analyze how capitalism fucks up work and family, and how
that could be overcome).
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By LINA NILSSONAPRIL 27, 2015
 THE figures are well known: At Apple 20 percent of tech jobs are held by
women and at Google, only 17 percent. A report by the Congressional Joint
Economic Committee estimates that nationwide about 14 percent of engineers
in the work force are women.

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Re: [Marxism] Our Trouble With Trains

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Both Jon Flanders and Dave Walsh have had decades of experience with Amtrak and 
the railroads and so I would think would have some important things to say 
about what's going on with rail transportation in this country.

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Subject: Re: [Marxism] Our Trouble With Trains
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I'm certainly going to read his book.
In the meantime, comrades would do well to revisit such episodes as:
* the role of the Morgans et al. in funding, unifying, and destroying rail
lines on behalf of themselves and the coal/steel/etc. industries they
controlled;
* the Plumb Plan for nationalization, supported by all the rail unions (and
swiftly dropped);
* Statements by Debs and other lefties on the rails; and
* Anything today's rail rank-and-filers have to say on the issues (Jon
Flanders, any links?).

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> (Richard White is an outstanding left historian.)
>
> NY Times Op-Ed, May 18 2015
> Our Trouble With Trains
> By RICHARD WHITE
>
> EIGHT train passengers died last week in Philadelphia. Their deaths are
> particularly alarming because they were doing nothing more dangerous than
> traveling along Amtrak’s Northeast Corridor. The news about the train
> accident has focused on technological fixes that might have prevented the
> disaster. The deaths are, however, also rooted in our long love-hate
> relationship with the railroads. It is this particular history that has
> served to render our railroad problems so intractable.
>
> Amtrak is a public-private corporation, but the government’s involvement
> in rail began long before Amtrak. It has taken various forms: public
> subsidies, public stock subscriptions, the leasing of convict labor,
> partial public ownership of private railroad corporations, and regulation.
> Government funds were the lifeblood of many 19th-century American
> railroads. The partnership structure meant that the public absorbed the
> risk. Those who controlled the corporations, if not the corporations
> themselves, reaped the benefits. (The Europeans, who have maintained their
> state-owned companies and close government supervision, have done much
> better at passenger travel.)
>
> In a country of vast distances and poor roads, railroads became essential,
> but there were still many reasons for Americans to dislike them. And
> nothing focused, and still focuses, public attention on the deficiencies of
> railroads like accidents. Train wrecks yield victims, and, more commonly,
> trains kill those who work on them. In the 19th and early 20th centuries,
> railroads rejected new technologies that could have improved safety as too
> complicated and too expensive.
>
> There was pressure to nationalize the railroads, which often meant
> operating them like a modern interstate highway, with the government owning
> and controlling the infrastructure and allowing regulated private carriers
> to use the tracks. During World War I the nearly catastrophic inefficiency
> of the railroads brought about temporary nationalization, but by and large
> the public option was never exercised.
>
> From the 19th century on, popular resentment mounted, often focused on the
> commuter rail. Danger and bad service caused passengers to flee to
> automobiles and, later, airlines whenever they could.
>
> Railroads lost money by carrying people, but they could not simply cease
> to run passenger trains. Both their charters and laws required them to do
> so. Amtrak, which was started in 1971, was a blessing to them. They could
> keep the lucrative freight and ditch the costly passengers.
>
> The government created Amtrak to salvage a failing passenger rail system,
> but in detaching passenger traffic from freight traffic it created a
> monster that had to seek its lifeblood els

Re: [Marxism] Fwd: The Swedish model (part 1) | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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On 5/25/15 9:29 AM, Daniel Lindvall via Marxism wrote:
Firstly, surely objective outcome is an important point in this 
discussion? Secondly, though there have been genuine reform socialists in 
the social democratic movement up until the 1980s or so, the idea of the 
handshake between capital and workers and the de-mobilization of the rank 
and file in favour of building a human-faced capitalist society, jointly 
administered by social democratic bureaucrats and representatives of 
capital, has been the ideology of the majority of the leading social 
democrats.


I should mention that my next post will entail a look at the Stockholm 
School of Economics that was founded with Wallenberg money and inspired by 
the theories of one Knut Wicksell, who taught at Uppsala. You've probably 
heard of Gunnar Myrdal and Dag Hammarskjold, who did teach at the 
Stockholm school. Their ideas were a conscious break with Marxism. 
Wicksell in particular was influenced by Böhm-Bawerk, who was one of the 
first bourgeois economists to attempt to disprove Marx's labor theory of 
value on the basis of marginalism. It should be mentioned that Wicksell 
was embraced by both the Swedish social democratic think-tank at Stockholm 
as well as by Mises and company. There's lots more about the peculiarities 
of a Second International party that broke with the theoretical consensus 
of sister parties that still embraced Marxism--at least in theory.


Also the Stockholm School, independently of John Maynard Keynes, arrived at 
many of the same conclusions concerning macroeconomics that are usually 
associated with the British economist.


In a number of respects, the Stockholm School was a bridge between the 
mainstream neoclassicals, the Keynesians, and the Austrian School.


Also, concerning the Myrdals, they were influential not only as economists 
but also as sociologists and as policy wonks. They were among the lead 
architects of the Swedish welfare state. They were also staunch advocates of 
eugenics. Eugenics policies were in fact implemented in Sweden between the 
1920s and the 1970s and often involved forced sterilizations of women.


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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Do Human Rights Increase Inequality? - The Chronicl e Review - The Chronicle of Higher Education

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I discussed some of these issues in a talk that I once gave on Milton Friedman 
as political philosopher.

https://www.academia.edu/5689583/Capitalism_and_freedom_a_critique_of_Milton_Friedman

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Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: Do Human Rights Increase Inequality? - The Chronicle 
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This is by Samuel Moyn, who wrote "Human Rights: The Last Utopia". This 
book be considered along with the others recommended as a critique of 
HRW, et al.

http://chronicle.com/article/Do-Human-Rights-Increase/230297?cid=megamenu
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>From Boston's own "bright young thing" - Doug Enaa Greene, at the Center for 
>Marxist Education in Cambridge, MA.

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Re: [Marxism] The Charleston shooter's personal Web site

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That site appears to be down now, but fortunately, it has been preserved by 
the Wayback Machine. See:


https://web.archive.org/web/20150620134455/http://lastrhodesian.com/

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In case anyone missed it:

http://lastrhodesian.com

The "manifesto" is here:

http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt

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Re: [Marxism] The Charleston shooter's personal Web site

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More on how the shooter's alleged website was discovered.

http://jezebel.com/meet-the-lady-who-ruined-dylann-roofs-chance-at-an-insa-1712829469

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That site appears to be down now, but fortunately, it has been preserved 
by the Wayback Machine. See:


https://web.archive.org/web/20150620134455/http://lastrhodesian.com/

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In case anyone missed it:

http://lastrhodesian.com

The "manifesto" is here:

http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt

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[Marxism] Doug Greene on "Gramsci for communusts"

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Both video and article at:

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[Marxism] Struggle and suffering: The 1946-49 Greek Civil War

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Doug Enaa Greene on the Greek Civil War.

Video at:  http://links.org.au/node/4537

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Re: [Marxism] NYTimes: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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Over 250 years ago, Adam Smith in his The Wealth of Nations, wrote the 
following:

“Masters are always and everywhere in a sort of tacit, but constant and uniform 
combination, not to raise the wages of labour above their actual rate. To 
violate this combination is everywhere a most unpopular action, and a sort of 
reproach to a master among his neighbours and equals.”


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> When Dan Price announced he was setting a minimum salary of $70,000 for
> his 120 employees, he didn’t foresee the turmoil it would cause for his
> business.
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[Marxism] Copwatch vs. Cops: After Freddie Gray (NY Times)

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After-freddie-gray.htmlIn a year of violent police encounters, much of the 
conversation has been about cameras: Who should have them, what can they 
achieve and how can they improve the broken relationship between the police and 
African-American communities?

Copwatch, an organization created to document police activity and possible 
harassment, has been at the forefront of the activity since its founding in 
1990. But in the wake of Michael Brown’s death in Ferguson, Mo., last August — 
after a white officer shot him and left his body in the road — the movement has 
gained a new urgency.

The deaths of Eric Garner in Staten Island, Walter L. Scott in North 
Charleston, S.C., and Freddie Gray in Baltimore have fueled more outrage and 
debate because in each case, raw video propelled the incidents into public 
discussion.

more:
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Dealing with Nazism and the darker aspects of natio nalism | swedish heart and soul

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The famous Swedish filmmaker Ingmar Bergman had direct  experience with Swedish 
support for the Third Reich. His elder brother, Dag (who later went on to a 
career in Sweden's diplomatic corps) was for a time in the 1930s, an organizer 
for the Swedish National Socialists. Ingmar Bergman, in his memoirs, said that 
his father, the pastor, voted for the Swedish National Socialists several 
times. Ingmar, himself, at the age of 16 visited Nazi Germany as an exchange 
student. Being a pastor's son, he boarded with a German boy who was also a 
pastor's son. This German pastor was an ardent Nazi, who was as prone to taking 
his Sunday sermons from Mein Kampf, as he was from the Gospels. Young Ingmar 
even once attended a big Nazi rally with this pastor's family. The Führer 
himself spoke at this rally. Bergman said in his memoirs that he became an 
enthusiast for Hitler's regime and remained supportive of it until after the 
Second World War, when evidence of the crimes of that regime became so 
overwhelming that they could no longer be denied. Ingmar Bergman's family 
became very close to this German family. Indeed, his sister became engaged to 
the German boy that he had stayed with. He would become a pilot in the 
Luftwaffe and was shot down and killed at the beginning of the Second World War.

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Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: Dealing with Nazism and the darker aspects of 
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[Marxism] Two articles from Doug Greene

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Nicos Poulantzas: State, class and the transition to socialism
http://links.org.au/node/4543

and

The Heroic Deed: Myth and Revolution

http://www.redwedgemagazine.com/essays/heroic-deed-myth-revolution



Doug Greene will be lecturing on both Poulantzas and Mariategui later this year 
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Re: [Marxism] Review: �We Believe the Children,� on Child Abuse Hyster ia in the 1980s

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I agree that the child abuse hysteria of the 1980s was a profoundly reactionary 
phenomenon but to pit on just fundamentalist Christians and right-wing 
political activists is a little too easy. During the same period in 
Massachusetts we had the Fells Acre Day Care Center which had many similarities 
with the McMartin case but in Massachusetts most of the DA, and other public 
officials involved were mostly good liberal Democrats, as presumably were most 
of the social workers and psychologists who testified as expert witnesses on 
behalf of the prosecution.

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Subject: [Marxism] Review: ‘We Believe the Children,’ on Child Abuse Hysteria 
in the 1980s
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:33:31 -0400



(Richard Beck is an editor at N+1, the Marxist journal of art and politics.)

NY Times, August 7 2015
Review: ‘We Believe the Children,’ on Child Abuse Hysteria in the 1980s
By MARK OPPENHEIMER

WE BELIEVE THE CHILDREN
A Moral Panic in the 1980s
By Richard Beck
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Class Interests as Economic Theory � Counter Punch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

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As that article points out, the labor theory of value was a basic part of 
classical political economy, especially in the work of Adam Smith, David 
Ricardo, and then, Karl Marx. Ideologically, it had been a useful weapon when 
deployed against the pretensions of landlords and aristocrats. But by the 
mid-19th century,socialist writers were starting to use it to critique 
capitalism. Karl Marx was the most notable example of this, but in Britain 
there were a number of other writers doing much the same thing, if not quite so 
well, the so-called Ricardian socialists. So on an ideological level, the labor 
theory of value was losing its appeal for pro-capitalist economists and 
ideologues. Hence, the appeal of marginalism to pro-capitalist economists.  
However, to complicate things a bit, some of he early marginalists, like 
Walras, were themselves socialists too, so it was quite possible to reject the 
labor theory of value and still be a socialist. And in the 20th century there 
were quite a number of economists who rejected the labor theory of value but 
were still good socialists. People like Oskar Lange, Joan Robinson, Pierro 
Sraffa, and John Roemer, to name just a few.

Joan Robinson BTW viewed both the labor theory of value and the marginalist 
conception of value as both being "metaphysical" and, hence, not science. She 
rejected both, while still embracing much of the Marxist critique of 
capitalism. In her view both the classical economists' labor theory of value, 
and marginalism, were based on untestable, unverifiable assumptions.  Since 
most neoclassical economists have been avowed positivists, this criticism ought 
to bite.

On the other hand, just to keep things interesting, it should be noted that the 
Polish socialist economist Oskar Lange considered himself to be both a Marxist 
and a neoclassical economist.  In his view both Marxism and neoclassical 
economics were necessary if we were to get a full picture of economic reality.  
He thought Marxism provided the key to understanding the historical evolution 
of capitalism (including its eventual ultimate displacement by socialism), but 
he regarded traditional Marxist economics to be inadequate in several ways. He 
rejected the “labor theory of value” as being unscientific, and held that a 
Marxian concept of exploitation could be restated without it. He made 
statements like

 “If people want to anticipate the development of Capitalism over a long 
period, a knowledge of Marx is a much more effective starting point than a 
knowledge of [Friedrich von] Wieser, [Eugen von] Bohm-Bawerk, Vilfredo Pareto 
or even [Alfred] Marshall (although the last-named is in this respect much 
superior). But Marxian economics would be a poor basis for running a central 
bank or anticipating the effects of a change in the rate of discount.”

and

“[I]n providing a scientific basis for the current administration of the 
capitalist economy ‘bourgeois’ economics has developed a theory of equilibrium 
which can also serve as a basis for the current administration of a socialist 
economy. It is obvious that Marshallian economics offers more for the current 
administration of the economic system of Soviet Russia than Marxian economics 
does, though the latter is surely the more effective basis for anticipating the 
future of capitalism."

At the same time, Lange, among other things was able to show how neoclassical 
economic reasoning could be used to argue on behalf of socialism and socialist 
economic planning,

Over time in eastern Europe, views, similar to Lange's, became popular among 
many economist there during the 1950s and 1960s and they provided the 
theoretical basis for reform proposals in Hungary, Poland, Czechoslovakia, and 
the Soviet Union.

Even though many contemporary neoclassical economists would concede Lange's 
abilities as an economist, few would would be willing to follow him in 
combining neoclassical economics with Marxist analysis. In other words, they 
are willfully committed to keeping their discipline "autistic."

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Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: Class Interests as Economic Theory � 
CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:17:16 -0500

There is now a widespread consensus that mainstream/neoclassical 
economists failed miserably to either predict the coming of the 2008 
financial implosion, or provide a reasonable explanation when it 
actually arrived. Not surprisingly, many critics have argued that 
neoclassic

[Marxism] Roy Bhaskar, R.I.P.

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I'm seeing on Twitter, from David Graeber and other, that the philosopher Roy 
Bhaskar died yesterday from heart failure.

He is best known as the father of Critical Realism. He was seventy years old.


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Re: [Marxism] When Jihadis Win Power

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One curious aspect of the movement to restore the caliphate, back in the 1920s, 
was its support for a time by Mahatma Gandhi and the Indian National Congress. 
That was because the movement had elicited strong support from Indian Muslims. 
For Gandhi, and his associates, the anti-British tones of the movement had some 
appeal, and for a while they believed that by lending their support to that 
movement, they could win the support of Indian Muslims for their own 
independence movement.
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London Review of Books
Vol. 36 No. 23 � 4 December 2014

When Jihadis Win Power
by Owen Bennett-Jones

The Inevitable Caliphate?: A History of the Struggle for Global Islamic 
Union, 1924 to the Present by Reza Pankhurst
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Re: [Marxism] Effacing the radical tradition in the American Jewish Co mmunity

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And to that list, I would add the battles over affirmative action during the 
1970s.  

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Subject: [Marxism] Effacing the radical tradition in the American Jewish 
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:05:11 -0500



One watershed event omitted from Cohen's piece is the teachers' strike in Ocean 
Hill-Brownsville (NYC) in 1968, which
followed closely upon the '67 war . An SDSer at the time (and a college kid who 
didn't know all that much), I supported 
the "black community" against the strikers--a position I now believe to have 
been wrong. Upon subsequent reading, I 
concluded that the Rockefeller Foundation, under McGeorge Bundy (remember 
him?), was deliberately (and successfully) 
using slogans of community control to pit blacks against unions. But, whatever 
the rights and wrongs of that dispute, it did 
mark a certain turning point.Jews, many of whom had previously considered 
themselves not quite white, began increasingly
thereafter to think of themselves as another white ethnicity.

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Up to the late 1960s, and beyond, Israel had enjoyed considerable support from 
left radicals in the United States. The CPUSA, after all, had endorsed the 
creation of Israel back in 1948, in line with the Soviet foreign policy of that 
time. The fact that Israel, for the first thirty years of its existence had 
been governed mostly by social democratic politicians helped to give it a 
favorable image to many people on the left. 

In France one of the factors that led to the demise of the Maoist movements 
that had come out of the 1968 events was the massacre of Israeli athletes in 
the 1972 Olympics in Munich. Many of the Jewish intellectuals and students in 
France who had supported the Maoists, discovered their "inner Zionist".  That 
drove a wedge between them and the largely immigrant (often Arab) workers who 
backed the Maoists.  A lot of those intellectual ended up backing Mitterrand's 
Socialist Party, and some moved even further to the right. More than a few 
ex-Maoists served as cabinet ministers under Mitterrand. 

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Subject: Re: [Marxism] Effacing the radical tradition in the American Jewish Co 
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:35:08 -0500

Agree on both counts. Cohen is also right to single out the 1967 war as a 
turning point, but not quite for the reason she mentions. Very few young Jewish 
radicals I knew in university at the time were genuinely alarmed about their 
own survival, as she suggests, or that of the all-conquering Israelis. But when 
forced to choose between the new Palestinian movement which was rapidly winning 
the support of the international left against the occupation and their own 
sympathies for a �Jewish state�, which they continued to view 
through a romantic haze, they decisively opted for the latter. Once embarked on 
that trajectory, they moved farther and farther to the right which paralleled 
the inevitable evolution of the Israeli state and society.


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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: C�rdenas quits party he foundedand led

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What that suggests is that any significant change in Mexico will not be coming 
through electoral politics, which I think has been clear for a long time  BTW 
it's generally believed that Cardenas himself was cheated out of the Mexican 
presidency back in 1988.

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Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: C�rdenas quits party he foundedand led
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 10:52:57 -0500



The mayor of the city who was complicit in the murder of 43 students was 
a member of C�rdenas's party, one that was formed in opposition to the 
PRI. Now it seems as degenerate as the PRI.

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/cardenas-quits-party-founded-25-years-ago/
 


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The history of economic thought is another field of study that's fallen on hard 
times. A generation or two ago, courses in the history of economic thought were 
typically required for both undergraduate and graduate students in economics. 
But no more. It used to be the case that eminent economists like Joseph 
Schumpeter or Lionel Robbins wrote textbooks on the history of economic thought 
but that sort of thing has become passe.

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Chronicle of Higher Education December 1, 2014
The Fall and Rise of Economic History

By Jeremy Adelman and Jonathan Levy

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BTW Schumpeter's book History of Economic Analysis is available for free as a 
PDF file at:
 http://digamo.free.fr/schumphea.pdf

It is interesting to note that the book was unfinished when Schumpeter died. 
Following his death, his widow engaged their good friend, Paul Sweezy, to 
assist her in preparing the unfinished manuscript for publication.


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The history of economic thought is another field of study that's fallen on hard 
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[Marxism] Collapse of the Second International

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 At the Center for Marxist Education (Cambridge, MA), Nick Giannone and Doug 
Enaa Greene discuss the reasons for the collapse and betrayal of the 
International and the lessons we can draw for today.

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Why Michel Foucault is the libertarian� s bes t friend - The Washington Post

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The famous critic of psychiatry, Thomas Szasz, was both a staunch libertarian, 
and a great admirer of Foucault. I think Szasz picked up on the libertarian 
side of Foucault before anyone else did, including Foucault himself.

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This is what I wrote about Foucault's politics a decade ago.

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.politics.marxism.marxmail/31919


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Don't trust the Washington Post. For a better reading of Foucault's complicated 
politics, see this article on Jacobin: 

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/12/beyond-the-welfare-state/

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[Marxism] James Connolly: National liberation and socialism

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Marxmailer, Doug Enaa Greene, on James Connolly, in Links International Journal 
of Socialist Renewal .

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[Marxism] U.S. and Cuba to Start Talks on Normalizing Relations (NY Times)

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Today, as the world pauses on the birthday of one of history's greatest
men, whose teachings continue to benefit the entire human race,
let us join in toasting the memory of Sir Isaac Newton, and of all
the giants on whose shoulders he stood.


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[Marxism] Otto Neurath and Marxism

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People in the anglophone world often forget that Otto Neurath, one of the 
founders of the Vienna Cirlce, was, besides being a logical empiricist, was 
also a Marxist.

Here is a link to an article on Neurath as Marxist.
http://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/bitstream/handle/1808/9325/auslegung.v16.n02.175-189.pdf;jsessionid=9AA6455FEFF6FCE63FAED360ECDF546C?sequence=1



BTW in the article on Friedrich Hayek, of which I'm a co-author, there is a 
discussion of Otto Neurath as a participant in the socialist calculation 
debates with Hayek. The whole debate started in the first place when Hayek's 
mentor, Ludwig von Mises, published an article in 1920, "Economic calculation 
in the socialist commonwealth," which had been written by Mises in response to 
Neurath's writings in defense of socialist economic planning.

https://www.academia.edu/3291616/The_Strange_Case_of_Dr._Hayek_and_Mr._Hayek


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Re: [Marxism] Otto Neurath and Marxism

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  If you guys can keep a secret then I will admit to having written much of 
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thanks, this is all so useful, will readps in wikipedia they mention the impact 
on Neurath of wartime resource allocation, an important example (conversion of 
factories, direct allocation of goods by perceived use value; there's a great 
anecdote on  that in the biography of Tony Mazzocchi.)Which is not of course to 
dodge the question of the use of money in the transition period
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 People in the anglophone world often forget that Otto Neurath, one of the 
founders of the Vienna Cirlce, was, besides being a logical empiricist, was 
also a Marxist.
 
 Here is a link to an article on Neurath as Marxist.
 
http://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/bitstream/handle/1808/9325/auslegung.v16.n02.175-189.pdf;jsessionid=9AA6455FEFF6FCE63FAED360ECDF546C?sequence=1
 
 
 
 BTW in the article on Friedrich Hayek, of which I'm a co-author, there is a 
discussion of Otto Neurath as a participant in the socialist calculation 
debates with Hayek. The whole debate started in the first place when Hayek's 
mentor, Ludwig von Mises, published an article in 1920, "Economic calculation 
in the socialist commonwealth," which had been written by Mises in response to 
Neurath's writings in defense of socialist economic planning.
 
 https://www.academia.edu/3291616/The_Strange_Case_of_Dr._Hayek_and_Mr._Hayek
 
 
 BTW Mises' 1920 article can be found here.
 https://mises.org/library/economic-calculation-socialist-commonwealth/html
 
 
 
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Re: [Marxism] Otto Neurath and Marxism

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Politically, most of the Vienna Circle was progressive and often socialist. 
Neurath called himself a Marxist, Carnap, I don't ever described himself as one 
but he did call himself a socialist. When he emigrated to the US, he remained 
active on behalf of progressive causes. He came under FBI suspicion, since, 
among other things, he was in the habit of sending letters to the editor, to 
the Daily Worker. He was blasted by Sidney Hook for his participation in the 
1949 Waldorf Peace Conference. In the 1960s, Carnap was a supporter of both the 
civil rights movement and the antiwar movement.

There were a few members of the Vienna Circle who were more conservative in 
outlook. Moritz Schlick, who was the titular head of the Circle, was a 
conservative.  Louis Rougier, who was the only French affiliate with the 
Circle, was also a right-winger. He was a friend of Friedrich Hayek, and during 
the Second World War, he served in posts under the Vichy regime in France.

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Thanks for the article. Will note that being written in 1990 it misses much of 
the revival of research around the Vienna Circle. The Vienna Circle was 
'neutralist' only in a certain formal sense as you know (the political context 
of the 50s/early 60s when Carnap was quoted is obviously very different from 
the 20s and 30s), for those interested in the political aspects of Carnap's 
project I do recommend the new book by AW Carus, 'Explication as Enlightenment'.
-dave

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  People in the anglophone world often forget that Otto Neurath, one of the 
founders of the Vienna Cirlce, was, besides being a logical empiricist, was 
also a Marxist.

  Here is a link to an article on Neurath as Marxist.
  
http://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/bitstream/handle/1808/9325/auslegung.v16.n02.175-189.pdf;jsessionid=9AA6455FEFF6FCE63FAED360ECDF546C?sequence=1



  BTW in the article on Friedrich Hayek, of which I'm a co-author, there is a 
discussion of Otto Neurath as a participant in the socialist calculation 
debates with Hayek. The whole debate started in the first place when Hayek's 
mentor, Ludwig von Mises, published an article in 1920, "Economic calculation 
in the socialist commonwealth," which had been written by Mises in response to 
Neurath's writings in defense of socialist economic planning.

  https://www.academia.edu/3291616/The_Strange_Case_of_Dr._Hayek_and_Mr._Hayek


  BTW Mises' 1920 article can be found here.
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Re: [Marxism] Not an optimistic assessment of Syriza

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Words of advice from Oskar Lange, from over 75 years ago, for SYRIZA, assuming 
that they win the upcoming elections in Greece . The following passages are out 
of Lange's On the Economic Theory of Socialism:


"The preceding treatment of the allocation of resources and of pricing in a 
socialist economy refers to a socialist system already established. The 
question does not present any special theoretical difficulty if a sector of 
small-scale private enterprise and private ownership of means of production is 
embodies in a socialist economy. However, on grounds which result from our 
previous discussion of the problem, this sector should satisfy the following 
three conditions: (1) free competition must reign in it ; (2) the amount of 
means of production owned by a private producer (or of the capital owned by a 
private shareholder in socialised industries) must not be so large as to cause 
a considerable inequality in the distribution _of incomes; and (3) the 
small-scale production must not be, in the long run, more expensive than than 
large-scale production. But the problem of transition from capitalism to 
socialism presents some special problems. Most of those problems refer to the 
economic m
 easures made necessary by the political strategy of carrying.through the 
transformation of the economic and social order. But there are also some 
problems which are of a purely economic character and which, therefore, deserve 
the attention of the economist.


"The first question is whether the transfer into public property and management 
of the means of production and "enterprises to be socialised should be the 
first or the last stage of the policy of transition. In our opinion it should 
be the first stage. The socialist government must start its policy of 
transition right away with the socialisation of the mdustnes and banks in 
question This follows from what has been said before on the possibility of 
successful government control if private enterprise and private investment. If 
the socialist government would attempt to control or supervise them while 
leaving them in private hands, there would emerge all the difficulties of 
forcing a private entrepreneur or capitalist to act differently than the 
pursuit of profit commands. In the best case the constant friction between the 
supervising government agencies and capitalists would paralyse business. After 
such ab unsuccessful attempt the socialist government would have either to give 
up its s
 ocialist aims or to proceed to socialisation; "



Lange goes on to argue against any policy of gradualism in transitioning from 
capitalism to socialism on the grounds that any enterprises of businesses that 
are left in private hands but which are slated to be socialized later on will 
be basically run into the ground by their capitalist owners before they get to 
be socialized. That's why Lange insisted that socialization could only work if 
it is done in a bold single step. Likewise, since Lange believed that for the 
sake of economic efficiency those sectors of the economy where real competition 
still exists should be left in private hands, Lange insisted that the socialist 
government ought, in effect, to give its sacred word, that it has no intention 
to nationalize them. Otherwise, any uncertainty about their ultimate fate would 
encourage their owners to run those enterprises into the ground too..
Lange finishes up his argument with the following:


"Marshall placed caution among the chief qualities an economist should have. 
Speaking of the rights of property he observed: "It is the part of responsible 
men to proceed cautiously and tentatively in abrogating or modifying even such 
rights as may seem to be inappropriate to the ideal conditions of social life." 
But he did not fail to indicate that the great founders of modern economics 
were strong not only in caution but also in courage. Caution is the great 
virtue of the economist who is concerned with minor improvements in the 
existing economic system. The delicate mechanism of supply and demand may be 
damaged and the initiative and efficiency of business men may be undermined by 
an improvident step. But the economist who is called to advise a socialist 
government faces a different task, and the qualities needed for this task are 
different, too. For there exists only one economic policy which he can commend 
to a socialist government as likely to lead to success. This is a policy 
 of revolutionary courage."


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Nearly 80 years ago, the Spanish Civil War began following a fascist military 
coup against the Republic. The resulting war unleashed a far reaching 
revolution and ignited the passions of the left, and even today, the causes of 
defeat remain hotly debated. Could the left-wing party, the POUM have provided 
the leadership necessary to bring a different outcome? Communist historian Doug 
Enaa Greene leads a discussion on the history of the POUM and the lessons to be 
drawn for today.

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[Marxism] Julio Huato on Piketty

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Here, on his blog, Julio Huato presents his take on Piketty, This same piece 
has alos been published in the January 2015 issue of Science & Society

http://juliohuato.org/2014/07/09/the-piketty-phenomenon/#more-1521


Much has been written about Capital in the 21st Century, Thomas 
Piketty�s 2014 celebrated economics best-seller.  The quality and range 
of his data compilation and analysis have been widely praised and justly so, as 
far as one can tell without having to replicate his vast work. The clarity and 
eloquence of his presentation bought him appeal to a broad readership. A 
Financial Times detractor who quarreled with him about the rigor of his 
analysis left the one-round fight with a shiner. Pro forma protests against 
Piketty�s adherence to �neoclassical� economics and, 
hence, his failure to adopt the Sraffian and post-Keynesian doctrines of value, 
distribution, and growth were registered publicly, and then allowed to drop out 
of view without having dimmed the book�s scholarly prestige and 
popularity. Ways in which Piketty�s work intersects, or not, with 
Marx�s radical takedown of capitalism have been remarked (and parodied), 
but it is only na
 tural that Science & Society allow one of its editors to add his proverbial 
two cents ‒‒ as much as possible in a short note.


Patently, Piketty�s theoretical disposition is not Marxist. He assumes 
capital as either a thing or a preterhistorical social institution, not a 
historically bounded social relation. He conflates wealth with capital, i.e., 
productive wealth held privately to exploit labor. Et cetera.  Well, what a 
surprise! He never promised us a rose garden. Yet, dwelling on these crucial, 
but in a sense formal, discrepancies is not as informative as minding the 
substantive theses of the book.

Piketty�s chief empirical claim is that, if current trends continue over 
the next decades, then the global distribution of income and wealth will grow 
more polarized, reaching levels not seen since the late 19th and early 20th 
centuries, a period of gaping social inequity that ushered in two world wars 
and social dislocation at such a scale that capital accumulation was halted, 
social polarization slowed down and, even in localized cases, got reversed. The 
stock of empirical material he brandishes to support his claim is gigantic. In 
Piketty�s view, the main driver of this powerful trend is the lack of an 
�automatic� rebalancing economic mechanism inherent in modern 
capitalist societies, which would keep the profit rate on capital, r, from 
systematically exceeding the annual growth rate of production, g. This is 
summed up in the relation r > g.

It is of note that conventional or �neoclassical� theories of 
economic growth tend to share with Ricardo (and Marx!) the anticipation of 
decreasing profitability in the long run. The specific mechanism envisioned is, 
of course, different in each case. To the neoclassicals, it follows from their 
axiom that, as the proportions at which productive inputs combine to produce 
new output vary, the productivity enabled by the fast-growing inputs declines. 
Furthermore, under competitive conditions, the profit rate fetched by 
individual capitalists on the value of a given productive input is proportional 
to the market value of the additional output produced with the aid of such 
input, for if it is higher, capitalists will acquire more of that input, thus 
driving its relative price up, and increasing costs until the excess 
profitability disappears. For example, if the number of employed workers in 
shoe production remains constant and another machine (privately owned as 
capital) is
  incorporated, the extra shoes produced per machine (and with it the average 
quantity of shoes per machine) decreases, and with it the profitability of such 
machines. The implication is, therefore, that as more capital is accumulated in 
capitalist hands each additional dollar of capital is bound to yield a 
decreasing profit rate. The only way out of this dead end is better technology 
(e.g., smarter ways to recombine the productive inputs and produce a given 
amount of shoes); however, at the cutting edge, technology expands at a 
dismally slow pace.

Piketty�s argument here, based largely on a hunch, stands in contrast 
with the conventional view: Nowadays, productive technology is such that 
machines and labor power are highly mutually replaceable. Consequently, the 
accumulation of machine ownership by the capitalists does not translate into a 
quick decrease of machine profitability, as the neoclassicals predict. This is 
why, in spite of larger piles of capital (measured in annual n

Re: [Marxism] Interest in Bukharin's writing

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Here is Hessen's paper.

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Bukharin's English-language archive is here:
http://marxists.org/archive/bukharin/library.htm

Most of "Science at the Crossroads" is here:
http://www.marxists.org/subject/science/
I say most because it doesn't include Hessen's landmark study, which really
must be rectified!!!

Anyway if your collective study of Bukharin yields new items to be posted
that would be great (even though I'm a vehemently anti-Bukharin Trotskyist).


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> I am currently taking notes on Bukharin's interesting, 1930s work: Science
> at the Crossroads. This was Bukharin's presentation, with the other
> delegates from the USSR, on Science; the document was presented to the
> International Congress of the History of Science and Technology.
>
> The above mentioned title does take some time and effort to unravel and
> penetrate esp., considering the historical developments that have taken
> place in science since the 1930s. Lenin lauded Bukharin as a theoreticians
> of excellence, not without reason.
>
> To this day the talents of Bukharin are not acknowledged, nor fully
> realised, neither have they been fully understood.
>
> Bukharin's Marxism does critique -the absolutist and Bonapartist aspects
> of Stalinism. Though Bukharin's strong expression is subte and oft not
> worth the trouble -to the general reader.
>
> One is bound to consider the context when reading any of Bukharin's
> writing. His ideas are subtly spun in a context (the post-civil war,
> consolidation of Stalinism, Totskyism, the rising of Fascism and a
> depressed global Capitalism of that time). Many would contend that these
> factors are similar to our own i.e., considering the similarity with our
> current historical condition.
>
> Any reading has a backdrop of Bukharin's fall, His notorious show trial,
> the historical distortions put this promising Marxist, either as an enemy
> of the Socialism, painted as an inconsequential Stalinist.
>
> However a basic reading always traps the reader, as such an approach
> obscures Bukharin's unique and original Marxist position. He is obscured in
> the conventions and distorted reproductions of the central committee and
> others enemies; all with a particular general line.
>
> A more serious study is needed i.e., towards relooking at this figure;
> such a study would bring much new thoughts on many new topics. I find
> Bukharin's angle on theory and practice offers up a critique on each and
> every hegemon (evident in Gramsci's work) and hence Stalinism.
>
> The works of Bukharin need to be expanded upon to clarify his teachings
> within the limits caused by the consolidation and cementing of a new type
> of absolutism (Stalinism).
>
> All of Bukharin's work have a distinct identity, esp., within the Marxist
> corpus; the works do provide a lot of depth, an analysis with a wonderful
> emphasis on the validity of sociology, the Historico-materialist slant.
> With some effort the text even breaks out and clearly critiques its
> stultified Stalinist (the general line of a quasi police state).
>
> However Science at the Crossroads, like Frederick Engel's Dialectics of
> Nature, takes time to reinterpret; both where written in different
> historical conditions i.e., before many of today's scientific concepts came
> about. Despite this the underlying framework holds ground and can be built
> upon.
>
> There is a essential Marxist kernel that remain, forever i.e., for as long
> a particular (hegemonic) scientific interest poses and is claimed as an
> absolute form (cloaked in whatever fancy dress).
>
> Science is held up (o be linked to the production process, thereby the
> claim of discoveries as private property i.e., and the reader can consider
> various interests (prison, military industrial complex &c.)
>
> The work can be a tool to look upon the current condition of Science. It
> takes time to work through; and esp.,

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Doug Greene's lecture, "Bukharin: Favorite of the Whole Party" might be of 
interest to you

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I am currently taking notes on Bukharin's interesting, 1930s work: Science at 
the Crossroads. This was Bukharin's presentation, with the other delegates from 
the USSR, on Science; the document was presented to the International Congress 
of the History of Science and Technology. 

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Doug Enaa Greene on Germany's failed revolution.

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Erwin Marquit, once the Communist candidate for governor, reflects on a life of 
blacklists, surveillance and principles as cancer claims his last days.

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Some of the early marginalists, like Jevons were already publishing when 
Marx was still around and was still working on Capital. Marx never addressed 
the work of the early marginalists. On the other hand, he did provide 
critiques of the work of those people, who he called the vulgar economists, 
like Say or J.S. Mill, who were precursors of the marginalists.


Probably, the best known Marxist response to the marginalists, was 
Bukharin's book, The Economic Theory of the Leisure Class 
(https://www.marxists.org/archive/bukharin/works/1927/leisure-economics/), 
which focused on the work of the early Austrian School, which Bukharin was 
intimately familiar with, since while living in Vienna, he spent time 
attending the lectures of Austrian School economists like Eugen von 
Böhm-Bawerk, who was famous for his critique of Marx, as expressed in his 
book, Karl Marx and the Close of His System 
(https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/bohm/).  Bukharin defended 
Marx's labor theory of value against the marginalists subjectivist approach 
towards value theory. In critiquing the Austrians, Bukharin drew upon the 
work of earlier Marxist writers like Hilferding.




The British economist, Joan Robinson, was not a Marxist, as such. But as 
someone who had been originally trained in the neoclassical economics of 
Alfred Marshall, who became a disciple of Keynes, she became increasingly 
drawn towards Marxism. She was very much a socialist, but she abjured the 
label of Marxist because she rejected the labor theory of value as well as 
dialectical materialism, styling herself as a traditional English 
empiricist. Despite her neoclassical training, she became of the great 
critics of neoclassical economics. Whereas, many of the American Keynesians, 
like Paul Samuelson, had held that Keynesian economics could be reconciled 
with and incorporated into neoclassical economics (what Samuelson called the 
new neoclassical synthesis), Robinson would have none of this. She held that 
if Keynes's insights into macroeconomics were correct then neoclassical 
economic theory must be deeply flawed.  Joan Robinson, in her 1962 book, 
Economic Philosophy, attacked both the labor theory of value as well as the 
marginalists' subjectivist approach to value. Both approaches, in her 
estimation, relied on the making of assumptions that were not empirically 
faslsifiable. Both approaches were viewed by her as being metaphysical 
rather than scientific.

(https://fixingtheeconomists.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/joan-robinsons-critique-of-marginal-utility-theory/)
(https://archive.org/details/EconomicPhilosophy)

Many Marxist economists have sought to make peace with marginalism. The 
Polish economist, Oskar Lange, was a noted example of this trend. He sought 
to be both a Marxist and a neoclassical economist.  He thought Marxism 
provided the key to understanding the historical evolution of capitalism 
(including its ultimate displacement by socialism), but he regarded 
traditional Marxist economics as inadequate in several ways. He considered 
the “labor theory of value” (as shared to a great extent by Adam Smith and 
David Ricardo as well as Marx) unscientific, and held that a Marxian concept 
of exploitation could be restated without it. He made statements like


   “If people want to anticipate the development of Capitalism over a long 
period, a knowledge of Marx is a much more effective starting point than a 
knowledge of [Friedrich von] Wieser, [Eugen von] Bohm-Bawerk, Vilfredo 
Pareto or even [Alfred] Marshall (although the last-named is in this respect 
much superior). But Marxian economics would be a poor basis for running a 
central bank or anticipating the effects of a change in the rate of 
discount.”


and

   “[I]n providing a scientific basis for the current administration of the 
capitalist economy ‘bourgeois’ economics has developed a theory of 
equilibrium which can also serve as a basis for the current administration 
of a socialist economy. It is obvious that Marshallian economics offers more 
for the current administration of the economic system of Soviet Russia than 
Marxian economics does, though the latter is surely the more effective basis 
for anticipating the future of capitalism."



Over time, Lange's approach became quite popular among Marxist economists in 
eastern Europe, as did his advocacy of a kind of market socialism.


The young Sidney Hook in his 1933 book, Towards the Understanding of Karl 
Marx, took an interesting approach to the issue of the LTV versus 
marginalism.  He argued that from the standpoint of pure logic one cannot 
prove or disprove any theory of value. He dr

[Marxism] Erwin Marquit, R.I.P.

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Erwin Marquit, who was profiled in Monday's Variety section as a major figure 
in the Communist Party of Minnesota, died Thursday morning from cancer. He was 
88.

Marquit, of Minneapolis, was a professor at the University of Minnesota for 
several decades, teaching physics and, for a time, a course on Marxism. In 
1974, he ran for governor of Minnesota, the first Communist Party candidate in 
32 years.

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I did have some brief communication with him years ago.

BTW for those interested, here are some of his web pages.


http://www.tc.umn.edu/~marqu002/

http://homepages.spa.umn.edu/~marquit/

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Marxist tradition" Marquit, R.I.P.



I appreciated the longer article you connected us to earlier, Jim.

I was always somewhat puzzled about Marquit but never invested much
effort to learn about him, although i'm sure i would have if i lived
in the vicinity.  He seemed to be trying to be as visible as possible
- quite unlike other CP members i've known.  I think he had his own
independent publishing operation.

I wondered if he was his own one-man-band, independent or at-odds with
the CPUSA, maybe a dissident or former member.  Was he a 'loyal' CPer?
Did he have a distinctive political 'line'?  Did he contribute to or
participate in elaborating Marxist theory in new realms?  maybe his
professional areas of science and physics?

Did you know him or have some connection?  He was certainly admirably
active and outspoken.


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  Erwin Marquit, once the Communist candidate for governor, reflects
on a life of blacklists, surveillance and principles as cancer claims
his last days.  More at:
http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/291890091.html

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Jim Farmelant via Marxism
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. . .
Erwin Marquit, who was profiled in Monday's Variety section as a major 
figure in the Communist Party of Minnesota, died Thursday morning from 
cancer. He was 88.


Marquit, of Minneapolis, was a professor at the University of Minnesota 
for several decades, teaching physics and, for a time, a course on 
Marxism. In 1974, he ran for governor of Minnesota, the first Communist 
Party candidate in 32 years.


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The Polish economist, the late Tadeusz Kowalik, discussed this (with an 
emphasis on the role of the economics profession) in his book, From Solidarity 
to Sellout: The Restoration of Capitalism in Poland.  The English translation 
of that book was published nearly three years ago by Monthly Review Press.

http://monthlyreview.org/press/news/from-solidarity-to-sellout-reviewed-on-systemic-disorder/


http://monthlyreview.org/2013/01/01/tadeusz-kowalik-and-the-accumulation-of-capital/


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http://rs21.org.uk/2015/03/04/from-democracy-to-neoliberalism-from-poland-to-ukraine/

>From democracy to neoliberalism – from Poland to Ukraine



*"Following recent waves of labour struggles in Poland, Jan Ladzinski
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The slave revolt led by Spartacus shook the Roman world to its foundations, and 
although a failure, has inspired the oppressed for centuries. Despite being 
dramatized in novels and films, we know very little about the historical figure 
of Spartacus. Communist historian Doug Enaa Greene delivers a lecture at the 
Center for Marxist Education on the historical figure of Spartacus on March 7, 
2015. 

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I think there is a lot to be said for the wisdom of Oskar Lange, who made 
statements like the following from his article, "Marxian economics and 
modern economic theory":



"If people want to anticipate the development of Capitalism over a long 
period, a knowledge of Marx is a much more effective starting point than a 
knowledge of [Friedrich von] Wieser, [Eugen von] Bohm-Bawerk, 
Vilfredo Pareto or even [Alfred] Marshall (although the last-named is in 
this respect much superior). But Marxian economics would be a poor basis for 
running a central bank or anticipating the effects of a change in the rate 
of discount."


and

"[I]n providing a scientific basis for the current administration of the 
capitalist economy 'bourgeois' economics has developed a theory of 
equilibrium which can also serve as a basis for the current administration 
of a socialist economy. It is obvious that Marshallian economics offers more 
for the current administration of the economic system of Soviet Russia than 
Marxian economics does, though the latter is surely the more effective basis 
for anticipating the future of capitalism."



BTW Lange also held John Maynard Keynes in pretty high regard as well.

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On 3/14/15 12:35 PM, Marv Gandall via Marxism wrote:

Michael Roberts takes on Lapavitsas:

https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2015/03/14/greece-keynes-or-marx/


I plan to write something about this at some point. Lapavitsas swears by 
Keynes while Roberts swears at Keynes. Roberts is for Marxist economics 
when it comes to Greece but what exactly does that mean? What possible 
guidance could Capital offer when it comes to building socialism? Much of 
running a socialist state (postcapitalist, to be more exact) rests on 
pragmatism rather than Marxism. And this is not to speak of the 
precariousness of trying to build socialism in a single country even when 
it is immense and resource-rich as the USSR was in the 1920s. In the early 
90s Cuba went through a "special period" that made the austerity in Greece 
look like the Garden of Eden by comparison, a result of the Soviet Union 
going capitalist. What in Marx's writings could solve the Cuban economic 
crisis? When a country relies on exports, it is the market that determines 
its success or failure--not the labor theory of value.


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Danny Schechter, the News Dissector, Dies in NYC at 72

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[Marxism] Takiji Kobayashi: Class Struggle and Proletarian Literature in Japan

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Communist historian Doug Enaa Greene lectures on the life and times of Japanese 
Takiji Kobayashi (1903-1933). Takiji Kobayashi was a Marxist novelist who was 
the author of novels such as the Crab Cannery Ship that exposed the deep 
injustices and inequality of Japanese society, the struggles of ordinary people 
and the dream of an egalitarian society.

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Re: [Marxism] Takiji Kobayashi: Class Struggle and Proletarian Literat ure in Japan

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And now as a printed article by Doug Greene.

http://links.org.au/node/4378

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Communist historian Doug Enaa Greene lectures on the life and times of Japanese 
Takiji Kobayashi (1903-1933). Takiji Kobayashi was a Marxist novelist who was 
the author of novels such as the Crab Cannery Ship that exposed the deep 
injustices and inequality of Japanese society, the struggles of ordinary people 
and the dream of an egalitarian society.

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Re: [Marxism] al-Qaeda influenced by Marxism? Really?

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(I doubt that Juan Cole got this right, especially after his last gaffe 
on how jihadists were emulating "the Bolsheviks" by killing Charlie 
Hebdo cartoonists. I forward it as a demonstration of how ignorant Cole 
can be on occasion. I might look further into his allegation later on.)

http://www.juancole.com/2015/04/conflicts-sunni-shiite.html

DAVID SPEEDIE: Thank you for clearing this up. [Laughter] It obviously 
is a fraught and complex thing.

Let’s move to Europe, if we may, just a couple of questions there. On 
Europe, specifically in France, you use a very interesting term, a 
phenomenon you called “sharpening the contradictions,” saying that 
attacks such as Charlie Hebdo—and presumably, later the incident in 
Belgium and then in Copenhagen—are actually contrived by al-Qaeda to 
create a backlash that will bring politically unengaged Muslims into the 
fold. Explain that a little bit.

JUAN COLE: I see evidence of al-Qaeda thinkers, like Ayman al-Zawahiri, 
who was the number-two man for a long time, before bin Laden was killed, 
being influenced by Marxist thought, and radical Marxism. This is very 
clear in the technical terms that the Muslim far-right uses. They talk 
about a vanguard. This was a Leninist term. In some radical forms of 
Marxism, activists were impatient with the working class, which seemed 
not to want to fulfill its historical duty by rising up against the 
business classes, and so it engaged in sabotage—not everywhere all the 
time, but there were some groups that did that kind of thing in hopes of 
provoking a class war, because they knew the business classes would call 
upon their agents, the police, to crack down hard on sabotage and 
workers’ activism and so forth.

I think that al-Qaeda picked up this kind of thinking from the Marxist 
fringe in places like Egypt and so forth. I think that it is a 
deliberate strategy on their part, the sharpening of contradictions, or 
the heightening of contradictions, as it’s called. I think it explains 
everything that happened in Iraq.
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Re: [Marxism] al-Qaeda influenced by Marxism? Really?

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To the extent that there is any truth to this, it's probably similar to the way 
that American conservatives like Rush Limbaugh (or rather his ghost writers) 
are influenced by Gramsci. They might have picked up a few catch phrases but 
are probably lacking any sort of a deeper understanding of Marxism.

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(I doubt that Juan Cole got this right, especially after his last gaffe 
on how jihadists were emulating "the Bolsheviks" by killing Charlie 
Hebdo cartoonists. I forward it as a demonstration of how ignorant Cole 
can be on occasion. I might look further into his allegation later on.)

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[Marxism] Re-centering Class in Critical Theory: A Tribute to Stephen A. Resnick (1938-2013)

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Re-centering Class in Critical Theory: A Tribute to Stephen A. Resnick 
(1938-2013)Rajesh BhattacharyaIan Seda-IrizarryWorking Paper 2014-02 
Re-centering Class in Critical Theory: A Tribute to Stephen A. Resnick 
(1938-2013)Rajesh BhattacharyaIan Seda-IrizarryWorking Paper 2014-02 
Re-centering Class in Critical Theory: A Tribute to Stephen A. Resnick 
(1938-2013)Rajesh BhattacharyaIan Seda-IrizarryWorking Paper 
2014-02Re-centering Class in Critical Theory: A Tribute to Stephen A. Resnick 
(1938-2013)
by  Rajesh Bhattacharya Ian Seda-Irizarry Working Paper 2014-02

Abstract

In this paper we pay tribute to Stephen Resnick (1938-2013), a major 
contributor to the Marxian theoretical tradition. We present a brief 
introduction to the works of Stephen Resnick and trace his intellectual journey 
to highlight the factors that had major influence on his work, in particular 
the influence of Louis Althusser. We note the emphasis on epistemological 
considerations and
class exploitation in Resnick's Marxist works.

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Re: [Marxism] Praise and Skepticism as One Executive Sets Minimum Wage to $70, 000 a Year

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The responses from the right-wing naysayers are rather interesting. On the one 
hand, they assert that the market will punish Dan Price's firm because he is 
setting wages above the level at which market wages and the marginal product of 
labor equilibrate.  

But at the same time they are getting all worked up over what he is doing as if 
they don't really trust the market to "do justice" to him. It is as if they 
really think that labor markets might turn out to be  monopsonistic in 
character, so that wages might really be less than the marginal product, in 
which case his company would likely not suffer at all. In other words, these 
conservatives are acting as if they really agreed with people like Joan 
Robinson, and economists since her day, who have held that wages are really a 
product of class struggle rather than the impersonal forces of supply and 
demand.  In that case, the success of Dan Price's experiment would be most 
embarrassing to the free market fanatics.



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NY Times, Apr. 20 2015
Praise and Skepticism as One Executive Sets Minimum Wage to $70,000 a Year
By PATRICIA COHEN

When Dan Price announced last week that he would cut his own pay and 
profits to make it possible to raise the minimum wage at Gravity 
Payments, his credit card processing company in Seattle, to a hefty 
$70,000 a year, he had little idea of the whirlwind it would stir.

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Aleksander A. Fedorov, Behaviorology and Dialectical Materialism: On the Way 
to Dialogue

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Re: [Marxism] The Big Lie about human shields

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As the article cited by Dennis points out the IDF has a long and 
well-documented history of using human shields.


The Israeli Supreme Court formally outlawed the use of human shields by the IDF 
back in 2005.  At that time, the IDF strongly objected to that ruling. More 
importantly, as subsequent events have show, they have apparently to ignore 
that ruling, as shown by their conduct in Operation Cast Lead and in more 
recent actions. Of course the Israeli Supreme Court would never have had to 
make any ruling about the use of human shields unless this was a standard 
practice of the IDF.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/idf-to-ask-high-court-to-review-ban-on-human-shield-practice-1.171689

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/u-n-human-rights-council-endorses-gaza-war-crimes-report-demands-israel-hamas-investigate-article-1.382138

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/20/us-palestinian-israel-children-idUSBRE95J0FR20130620
https://web.archive.org/web/20090705234403/http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jc0DHbDsRG83m4stW9JdpHz3hxSw




http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/impunity-war-crimes-gaza-southern-israel-recipe-further-civilian-suffering-20090702

http://www.hrw.org/news/2010/11/26/israel-soldiers-punishment-using-boy-human-shield-inadequate








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Re: [Marxism] Israel moves closer to a single-state solution

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It's quite possible that both ethnic cleansing and the granting of Israeli 
citizenship to the remaining Palestinians might be on the agenda. This is not 
necessarily an either/or situation. One can find precedents for that sort of 
thinking, going all the way back to Jabotinsky, who sometimes argued that once 
a Jewish majority was assured in Israel then the remaining Palestinian Arabs 
could then have full legal and political rights. Under such circumstances 
Israel could even have an Arab prime minister and it wouldn't matter.

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Subject: Re: [Marxism] Israel moves closer to a single-state solution
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On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Gary MacLennan  wrote:

> �I still believe that ethnic cleansing is on the Zionist menu.

Conceivably. But it�s also conceivable that granting the Palestinians 
formal citizenship at some point could see their demands for equal rights 
channelled and absorbed into the Israeli electoral system, encouraging their 
gravitation towards parties like Balad and even Labour. As we know, granting 
democratic rights (to vote, to form unions) is a two edged sword: it opens the 
door to modest improvements within the system at the same time it saps more 
militant resistance outside of it. Ruling classes often choose to 
institutionalize disruptive and costly conflict in this way, and it may well 
underlie the thinking of that segment of the Zionist right cited by Sheizaf. I 
wouldn�t rule out any scenario.

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Re: [Marxism] Swedish Nazis

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I remember years ago being shocked when I read Ingmar Bergman’s autobiography 
*The Magic Lantern*. Bergman pointed out that sympathy for Nazi Germany was 
widespread in the milieu in which he grew up. Some of his school teachers were 
openly sympathetic to the “new Germany.” One teacher used to spend his summers 
attending officers’ meetings in Bavaria. Bergman’s brother (who later on 
entered the diplomatic corps) was an organizer for the Swedish National 
Socialists. Ingmar himself at the age of 16 went to Germany as an exchange 
student. Since, he was a pastor’s son, he was paired with a German boy who was 
also a pastor’s son. This German pastor was an ardent Nazi who was as prone to 
use texts from *Mein Kampf* for his Sunday sermons as he was the Gospels. As an 
exchange student young Ingmar became an enthusiast for Hitler’s regime. Bergman 
reported that his infatuation with Nazism lasted until after the end of WW II 
when finally the evidence of what the Nazis did to the Jews and others had 
become so strong as to become undeniable. However, in the meantime  Ingmar’s 
family had become close to the German family that he had boarded with. His 
sister became engaged to the German student that Ingmar had been paired with. 
He became a pilot in the Luftwaffe and was shot down and killed atthe beginning 
of WW II.


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 From �Stieg Larsson: the Real Story of the Man Who Played With 
Fire� by 
Jan-Erik Petterson

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I would also add that reading Bergman's memoir seemed to me to shed new light 
on some of his best known films. I cannot avoid feeling, for example, that his 
film, The Seventh Seal, about the knight, Antoninus Block, who returns home to 
Sweden from the Crusades, thoroughly disillusioned, was reflective of Bergman's 
own experience of becoming disillusioned with National Socialism and the Third 
Reich when they were defeated and Bergman became aware of how evil they were.


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I remember years ago being shocked when I read Ingmar Bergman�s 
autobiography *The Magic Lantern*. Bergman pointed out that sympathy for Nazi 
Germany was widespread in the milieu in which he grew up. Some of his school 
teachers were openly sympathetic to the �new Germany.� One 
teacher used to spend his summers attending officers� meetings in 
Bavaria. Bergman�s brother (who later on entered the diplomatic corps) 
was an organizer for the Swedish National Socialists. Ingmar himself at the age 
of 16 went to Germany as an exchange student. Since, he was a pastor�s 
son, he was paired with a German boy who was also a pastor�s son. This 
German pastor was an ardent Nazi who was as prone to use texts from *Mein 
Kampf* for his Sunday sermons as he was the Gospels. As an exchange student 
young Ingmar became an enthusiast for Hitler�s regime. Bergman reported 
that his infatuation with Nazism lasted until after the end of WW II when 
finally t
 he evidence of what the Nazis did to the Jews and others had become so strong 
as to become undeniable. However, in the meantime  Ingmar�s family had 
become close to the German family that he had boarded with. His sister became 
engaged to the German student that Ingmar had been paired with. He became a 
pilot in the Luftwaffe and was shot down and killed atthe beginning of WW II.


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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Berkeley chancellor angers faculty members with rem arks on civility and free speech @insidehighered

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Back in the 1950s when the Communist philosopher Barrows Dunham refused to 
provide the HUAC any testimony beyond his name, address and date of birth, 
Temple University fired Professor Dunham for "intellectual arrogance" as well 
as his "obvious contempt of Congress."  Nowadays, we see university 
administrations using "civility" or rather the alleged lack thereof  to justify 
the unhiring of professors and as a cudgel to discipline faculty generally.  I 
wonder how long it will be before university administrations begin to punish or 
fire professors for "intellectual arrogance."


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[Marxism] Alex Ross on the Frankfurters

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In Jonathan Franzen’s 2001 novel, “The Corrections,” a disgraced academic named 
Chip Lambert, who has abandoned Marxist theory in favor of screenwriting, goes 
to the Strand Bookstore, in downtown Manhattan, to sell off his library of 
dialectical tomes. The works of Theodor W. Adorno, Jürgen Habermas, Fredric 
Jameson, and various others cost Chip nearly four thousand dollars to acquire; 
their resale value is sixty-five. “He turned away from their reproachful 
spines, remembering how each of them had called out in a bookstore with a 
promise of a radical critique of late-capitalist society,” Franzen writes. 
After several more book-selling expeditions, Chip enters a high-end grocery 
store and walks out with an overpriced filet of wild Norwegian salmon.

(continued)
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And this idiot had the nerve to beg Ralph Nader not to run. He is 
finally eating his words.

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I think the author understates the force of Bellarmine's criticisms of Galileo. 
There were a number of holes in Galileo's arguments which Bellarmine ably 
exposed.  Often Galileo was more reliant upon rhetoric than logic. On the other 
hand, Galileo turned out to be right and Bellarmine was wrong. Feyerabend wrote 
about this in Against Method. BTW Feyerabend got most of his understanding of 
the Galileo case from the logical empiricist philosopher and physicist Philipp 
Frank.

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Galileo's popularity and a newly established science academy in Rome 
ensured the continued publication of his works and a certain defense 
against the Church and other professional enemies. However, the issue of 
sunspots became the spark for an open clerical attack upon Galileo.

The story of how this debate unfolded is but one example of how the 
church and its privileged office-holders used the Bible to defame 
scientists like Galileo. Galileo himself believed that nothing that was 
discovered in any way conflicted with Scripture and quoted an 
ecclesiastical historian, Cardinal Baronius (1538-1607), who had 
commented: "The Holy Ghost intended to teach us how to go to heaven, not 
how the heavens go." This clever riposte did not save him. As Whitehouse 
points out:

�In his innate conservatism, Cardinal Bellarmine saw the Copernican 
universe as threatening to the social order. To him and to much of the 
Church's upper echelon, the science of the matter was beyond their 
understanding -- and in many cases their interest. They cared more for 
the administration and the preservation of Papal power than they did for 
getting astronomical facts right.�

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Feyerabend summarized his view of Bellarmine as follows:

"... theories as instruments of prediction and reject truth-talk as being 
metaphysical and speculative. Their reason is that the devices they use are so 
obviously designed for calculating purposes and that theoretical approaches so 
clearly depend on considerations of elegance and easy applicability that the 
generalization seems to make good sense. Besides, the formal properties 
of'approximations' often differ from those of the basic principles, many 
theories are first steps towards a new point of view which at some future time 
may yield them as approximations and a direct inference from theory to reality 
is therefore rather naive!8 All this was known to 16th- and 17th­century 
scientists. Only a few astronomers thought of deferents and epicycles as real 
roads in the sky; most regarded them as roads on paper which might aid 
calculation but which had no counterpart in reality. The Copernican point of 
view was widely interpreted in the same way - as an interesting, novel and 
rather efficient model. The Church requested, both for scientific and for 
ethical reasons, that Galileo accept this interpretation. Considering the 
difficulties the model faced when regarded as a description of reality, we must 
admit that '[l]ogic was on the side of . . .  Bellarmine and not on the side of 
Galileo,' as the historian of science and physical chemist Pierre Duhem wrote 
in an interesting essay. 19 To sum up: the judgement of the Church experts was 
scientifically correct and had the right social intention, viz. to protect 
people from the machinations of specialists. It wanted to protect people from 
being corrupted by a narrow ideology that might work in restricted domains but 
was incapable of sustaining a harmonious life. A revision of the judgement 
might win the Church some friends among scientists but would severely impair 
its function as a preserver of 
important human and superhuman values. 20 "


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On 09/12/2014 09:17 AM, Jim Farmelant via Marxism wrote:
> I think the author understates the force of Bellarmine's criticisms of 
> Galileo. There were a number of holes in Galileo's arguments which Bellarmine 
> ably exposed. 

can you give an example or two, Jim?   the bit about the pattern of
sunlight reflection off Venus atmosphere sounds intriguing, hadn�t heard
that one before.

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Attempts by private donors to pressure university administrations into cracking 
down on dissent by faculty and students is nothing new.  Back in the 1950s, 
William F. Buckley, Jr. wrote his first book, God and Man at Yale, for the 
expressed purpose of persuading wealthy Yale alumni to pressure the university 
administration to crack down on faculty progressives.

And as I noted here back in March, some of the purges of university faculties 
during the McCarthy period were initiated through the efforts of wealthy 
donors.   Such was apparently the case with the Communist philosopher Barrows 
Dunham who had been a professor and department chairman at Temple University, 
after he had a falling out with the pharmaceutical entrepreneur and art 
collector, Albert C. Barnes, of Philadelphia.  Originally, Dunham had been on 
good terms with Dr. Barnes.  When Barnes hired Bertrand Russell (who was unable 
to land any sort of an academic position in either the US or UK) to lecture at 
the Barnes Foundation, Professor Dunham sent Dr. Barnes a letter praising this 
decision as a bold statement on behalf of free speech.  However, not too long 
afterwards, Barnes had a falling out with Russell. He had engaged Russell to 
deliver a series of lectures on the history of Western philosophy (which would 
become the basis for Russell's bestselling book, The History of Weste
 rn Philosophy).  Barnes had become irked by Russell's wife, who insisted on 
being called Lady Russell, and Barnes took exception to her habit of knitting 
in the lecture hall, while her husband was lecturing. Barnes eventually fired 
Russell.  Barrows Dunhams wrote a letter to the press protesting this decision. 
That angered Barnes who fingered Dunham to the FBI. That eventually led to 
Barrows Dunham being called to testify before the HUAC.  Professor Dunham would 
only provide the HUAC with his name, date of birth and other very basic 
information, but otherwise refused to testify. He was cited for contempt of 
Congress, and was then fired by Temple University for alleged "intellectual 
arrogance" and "obvious contempt of Congress."

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Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: Freedom and Its Limits | The Academe Blog
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:52:09 -0400
 

Today, the public university is not what it was. In 1964, the 
constraints on academic freedom and free speech on campus arose from the 
problem of external interference from a Cold War-era government that 
supplied the bulk of UC funding and sought to suppress radicalism on 
campus. Now, the challenges to academic freedom and free speech on 
campus are just as likely to come from private donors and rich alumni 
whom cash-strapped administrations are anxious to cultivate and whose 
�speech� can weigh more heavily than that of others. There is 
strong 
evidence to suggest that this was the case with the blocked appointment 
of professor Steven Salaita at the University of Illinois, 
Urbana-Champaign. Powerful donors, offended by the �incivility� 
of 
Salaita�s extramural speech, managed to overthrow the normal process by 
which faculty peer review guarantees standards of scholarly excellence 
and academic appointments.

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[Marxism] Hayek and Trotsky

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I was looking at two famous pieces on economics: one by Hayek and one by 
Trotsky.  The Hayek piece that I was looking at, "The Use of Knowledge in 
Society" is best remembered not only as an exposition of Hayek's arguments 
concerning the socialist calculation debate but also because there he presented 
his notion of markets and the price system as functioning as information 
processing systems, whereby information that is dispersed among many different 
individuals and organizations is coordinated to make possible a rational 
allocation of resources.  In that article, Hayek makes a reference to Trotsky, 
writing:


"It is in many ways fortunate that the dispute about the indispensability of 
the price system for any rational calculation in a complex society is now no 
longer conducted entirely between camps holding different political views. The 
thesis that without the price system we could not preserve a society based on 
such extensive division of labor as ours was greeted with a howl of derision 
when it was first advanced by von Mises twenty-five years ago. Today the 
difficulties which some still find in accepting it are no longer mainly 
political, and this makes for an atmosphere much more conducive to reasonable 
discussion. When we find Leon Trotsky arguing that "economic accounting is 
unthinkable without market relations"; when Professor Oscar Lange promises 
Professor von Mises a statue in the marble halls of the future Central Planning 
Board; and when Professor Abba P. Lerner rediscovers Adam Smith and emphasizes 
that the essential utility of the price system consists in inducing the 
individual, while seeking his own interest, to do what is in the general 
interest, the differences can indeed no longer be ascribed to political 
prejudice. The remaining dissent seems clearly to be due to purely 
intellectual, and more particularly methodological, differences."
(http://www.econlib.org/library/Essays/hykKnw1.html)

Hayek was presumably referring to the Trotsky piece that I was referring too:  
"The Soviet Economy in Danger." There, as Hayek correctly noted, Trotsky argued 
for the indispensability of market relations under socialism, at least for the 
transition phase. Trotsky presented one argument that has always struck me as 
being rather Hayekian in tone.

"In this connection three systems must be subjected to a brief analysis: (1) 
special state departments, that is, the hierarchical system of plan 
commissions, in the centre and locally; (2) trade, as a system of market 
regulation; (3) Soviet democracy, as a system for the living regulation by the 
masses of the structure of the economy.

"If a universal mind existed, of the kind that projected itself into the 
scientific fancy of Laplace – a mind that could register simultaneously all the 
processes of nature and society, that could measure the dynamics of their 
motion, that could forecast the results of their inter-reactions – such a mind, 
of course, could a priori draw up a faultless and exhaustive economic plan, 
beginning with the number of acres of wheat down to the last button for a vest. 
The bureaucracy often imagines that just such a mind is at its disposal; that 
is why it so easily frees itself from the control of the market and of Soviet 
democracy. But, in reality, the bureaucracy errs frightfully in its estimate of 
its spiritual resources. In its projections it is necessarily obliged, in 
actual performance, to depend upon the proportions (and with equal justice one 
may say the disproportions) it has inherited from capitalist Russia, upon the 
data of the economic structure of contemporary capitalist nations, and finally 
upon the experience of successes and mistakes of the Soviet economy itself. But 
even the most correct combination of all these elements will allow only a most 
imperfect framework of a plan, not more."

(http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1932/10/sovecon.htm)

This has led me to wonder what influence each guy may have had on the other. 
I'm not sure if Trotsky was ever aware of Hayek, but was certainly aware of 
Trotsky. I wonder if some of his own thinking on the workings of the price 
system and market relations may have been influenced, even if only to a small 
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Below is a selection of comments that wee posted to my Facebook wall on Hayek 
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Wojtek Sokolowski:
   I am pretty much with Lange on this. As far as business decision making is 
concerned, it can be done based on prices in both "capitalist" and "socialist" 
societies, because it is the same kind of people - business managers - who make 
those decisions in each system. The main difference between "socialism" and 
'capitalism" is the accumulation of surplus. In socialism it is broadly 
distributed, in capitalism it is concentrated in a few hands. According to 
Lange, the latter is less efficient in achieving optimum distribution - the 
main purported goal of the market system - because it prioritizes the 
preferences of a few wealthy individuals over those of many less wealthy 
consumers. 

Lange was pretty much opposed to "command economy" as were most EEuropean 
economists. AFAIK, "command economy" never existed - it was invented by Western 
propagandists to discredit socialism. What did exist was policies of import 
substitution and prioritizing investments over consumption (aka austerity 
measures) to accelerate industrial development combined with price controls to 
avoid negative impact of industrialization on the prices of food (i.e. an 
anti-poverty measure). 

This brings me to the main point that socialism was far more successful 
economically than capitalism, because it managed to achieve two contradicting 
economic objectives at the same time: (i) rapid economic development and 
industrialization and (ii) prevent pauperization of large segments of society 
that such development brings (at least initially). Capitalism could only 
achieve the first objective, but miserably fails on the second.


Néstor Gorojovsky:
 You should have added Lenin, and so should have done Hayek.


Jim Farmelant:
I agree with all that Wotjek. The question in my mind is that Trotsky in 
his 1932 article. "The Soviet Economy in Danger" presented an argument that was 
strikingly similar to Hayek's ideas concerning economic calculation under 
socialism. Was Trotsky familiar with Hayek in 1932? Possibly, although I kind 
of think that Hayek was probably too obscure a figure back then. Trotsky might 
have known about Ludwig von Mises, since Bukharin had cited him in articles 
that he wrote in the 1920s in defense of the NEP. I'm wondering if the 
direction of causality might have been in the opposite direction. That is Hayek 
might have been influenced here by Trotsky. Stranger things have been known to 
happen


Wojtek Sokolowski:

Jim Farmelant Possible, but really a non-issue for me. I do not believe in 
ownership of ideas. ideas circulate in society in response to events and 
historical developments, and many people entertain and embellish them. 
Attributing them to one person makes no sense at all. It is an ideological 
statement of the primacy of private property over socialized property. It is my 
understanding that there was a lot of cross-border influencing going during 
industrialization - Gerschenkron has a nice piece on that titled "economic 
backwardness in a historical perspective.' There is also more recent research 
on organizational isomorphism showing high levels of mimicry in organizational 
behavior. It thus does not surprise me that many people could arrive at similar 
conclusions or solutions of emerging problems - but only few managed to patent 
their "ownership" of these conclusions or solutions. 

Creativity is grossly overrated because it legitimates private property 
relations. As Corey Robin recently argued, the purported scarcity of creativity 
and innovation is the basis of the defenses of the capitalist social order by 
hayek & Co. In reality, creativity is far more common than Mr. Hayek &Co I 
would say 3 in every five people are innovative and creative as opposed to 1 in 
a 100 as the neoliberal gang wants us to believe. What makes difference is 
official recognition of that creativity in the forms of patents and other types 
of intellectual property rights - only a few get that recognition, which 
creates an illusion that it is rare. In fact it as common as water - it is much 
harder to find people who are NOT innovative and creative in one way or another 
than those who are.



Marv Gandall:
Jim quoted Trotsky: "If a universal mind existed, of the kind that 
projected itself into the scientific fancy of Laplace – a mind that could 
register simultaneously all the processes of nature and society, that could 
measure the dynamics of their motion, that could forecast the results of their 
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Ken MacLeod, the noted Scottish science fiction writer tells me:
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Trotsky was probably familiar with Brutzkus, who wrote in the context of War 
Communism. See:
 
http://www.la-articles.org.uk/ec.htm
 
(The first article I ever read on the ECA!)
 
and
 
 
direct.mises.org/journals/jls/5_1/5_1_6.pdf
 
All the best
 
Ken MacLeod
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It seems rather clear to me that US hopes to use the current ISIS scare to 
promote a rapprochement with Iran and possibly with the Assad regime as well.  
That despite Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's recent statements that he has refused 
military cooperation with the US. 

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Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: Iranian talks with Saudi Arabia may signal thaw in 
relations | World news | The Guardian
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:56:31 -0400


None of this, of course, will make any difference to that portion of the 
left that insists the USA is conspiring with the Saudis to topple Bashar 
al-Assad and then move against Iran.

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: The Socialist Origins of Big Data

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THE COMPUTER AND THE MARKET  

OSKAR LANGE
 
"Not quite 30 years ago I published an essay  On the Economic Theory of 
Socialism.1 Pareto and Barone had shown that the conditions of economic 
equilibrium in a socialist economy could be expressed by a system of 
simultaneous equations. The prices resulting from these equations furnish a 
basis for rational economic accounting under socialism (only the static 
equilibrium aspect of the accounting problem was under con­sideration at that 
time). At a later date Hayek and Robbins maintained that the Pareto—Barone 
equations were of no practical consequence. The solution of a system of 
thousands or more simultaneous equations was in practice impossible and, 
consequently, the practical problem of economic accounting under socialism 
remained unsolvable.


"In my essay I refuted the Hayek—Robbins argument by showing how a market 
mechanism could be established in a socialist economy which would lead to the 
solution of the simultaneous equations by means of an empirical procedure of 
trial and error. Starting with an arbitrary set of prices, the price is raised 
whenever demand exceeds supply and lowered whenever the opposite is the case. 
Through such a process of tatonnements, first described by Walras, the final 
equilibrium prices are gradually reached. These are the prices satisfying the 
system of simul­taneous equations. It was assumed without question that the 
tatonnement process in fact converges to the system of equilibrium prices. Were 
I to rewrite my essay today my task would be much simpler. My answer to Hayek 
and Robbins would be: so what’s the trouble?"

Full: 
http://econc10.bu.edu/economic_systems/Theory/NonMarx_Socialism/Soc_Contraversy/lange_computer_and_the_market.htm



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Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: The Socialist Origins of Big Data
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 11:17:53 -0400

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 Lange proposed different models at different times, under different 
circumstances. He both proposed models for making centrally planned socialist 
economies work more efficiently, and he also had proposed models in which 
markets would be used under socialism. He tended to emphasize the latter when 
discussing things directly with Friedrich Hayek.  Later on when he returned to 
Poland, his energies were directed towards making Poland's now 
centrally-planned socialist economy work better, so he de-emphasized his 
writings on market socialist models. BTW in 1956, Lange, Kalecki, Brus, and 
other leading Polish economist drew up proposals for reforming Poland's state 
socialist economy in the wake of the turmoil that was hitting the country at 
that time. That turmoil resulted in Gomulka's return to power. His new 
government neither accepted nor rejected these reform proposals but as the 
political situation in Poland stabilized, these reform proposals were quietly 
shelved. 
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Subject: Re: [Marxism] Fwd: The Socialist Origins of Big Data
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:11:34 -0400


Thanks so much for Lange's article! It's especially important given that Lange 
is better known (mistakenly?) for taking the market socialism side in debates 
over planning feasibility.
My 1997 article:
http://202.154.59.182/ejournal/files/33%20-%20Copy%20%284%29%20-%20Copy.pdf 

And google Mandel and planning/self-management/etc.
 

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Brevity is the soul of wit.

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Economists� long-held beliefs make income inequality worse (Boston Glo be)

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Economists’ long-held beliefs make income inequality worse

By Jonathan Schlefer  |OCTOBER 12, 2014
(http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/10/11/income-inequality-made-worse-economists-lon
g-held-beliefs/P9hHPQ9L4kU0HNOAKxgdlK/story.html)


Though many economists today are sounding the alarm over rising income 
inequality, one 
culprit somehow has been overlooked: their own wage theory.

Wage theory — one of the sacred truths of modern economics — suggests that 
competitive 
labor markets are self-regulating. Each worker is paid his or her productive 
worth. 
Unions, minimum wages, or any other interference — all just cause unemployment. 
Nearly 
all contemporary public policy is dictated by some version of this theory, but 
it simply 
no longer holds up.


Adam Smith, often called the father of classical economics, told a very 
different story. 
Smith believed that each society sets a living wage to cover “whatever the 
custom of the 
country renders it indecent for creditable people, even of the lowest order, to 
be 
without.” His successor David Ricardo similarly saw the “habits and customs of 
the 
people” as determining how to divide income between profits and wages. Marx’s 
class 
struggle was just a more confrontational version of the idea.

Around the turn of the 20th century, economists grew dissatisfied with this 
squishy 
sociologist’s answer, and some found it morally problematic. “The indictment 
that hangs 
over society is that of ‘exploiting labor,’” conceded John Bates Clark, a 
founder of the 
American Economic Association. He set out to disprove it.

Clark and other colleagues posited that firms shop for the best deal among 
“factors of 
production” — labor and capital — just as smart consumers shop for the best 
deal at the 
supermarket. Automakers, for example, could build cars by employing more 
workers and less 
machinery, or vice versa. By seeking the least expensive combination, the firms 
will pay 
only wages equal to a worker’s “marginal productivity” — the gain in output 
added when he 
or she was hired.


In this best of all possible worlds, output is maximized, and no willing worker 
is 
unemployed. How? Suppose workers want a job. If they offer to work for a bit 
less than 
the going wage — and if no unions or minimum wage law stop them from doing so — 
firms 
find it cost-effective to hire them.

The Great Depression did not look like the best of all possible worlds to the 
British 
economist John Maynard Keynes. He developed a second, rather nuanced theory 
that said 
capitalism only works well if entrepreneurs’ “animal spirits” for investing 
(that is, 
spending on production) are sustained alongside workers’ earnings and demand 
for goods.

After World War II, the American economy was managed according to Keynes’s 
ideas. General 
Motors and the United Automobile Workers would strike a bargain to raise wages 
in line 
with productivity gains. Other unionized firms would follow suit and raise 
their own 
wages — and so would non-unionized firms such as IBM in order to fend off 
organizing. 
Meanwhile, labor lobbied Congress for comparable minimum wage increases. The 
whole wage 
structure rose, sustaining consumer demand and assuring firms that if they 
invested in 
workers, they could sell their products.

There remained a little academic problem. The influence of both Clark’s and 
Keynes’s 
theories persisted, but they had nothing to do with each other. Then, in the 
1970s, 
Robert Lucas of the University of Chicago brilliantly tore into at least 
American 
academia’s interpretation of Keynes and, with Clark as its basis, invented a 
whole new 
theory of booms and busts.

The specter of stagflation in the 1970s helped Lucas’s attack on Keynes. 
Inflation and 
unemployment rose, profits sank. Certain firms simply broke the law to stop 
unionization. 
After 18 labor proceedings against the Southern textile manufacturer J.P. 
Stevens, a US 
Court of Appeals ruled against the employer, blasting its violations as 
“flagrantly 
contemptuous.”

Unions sought legislation to make existing labor law more costly to violate, 
but even 
Democratic President Jimmy Carter gave the effort only lukewarm support, 
letting the bill 
languish in the Senate in 1978 until a filibuster killed it.

Amid this environment, policy makers looked back to the old J.B. Clark story. 
Carter 
launched deregulation, appointing the economist Alfred E. Kahn as his czar to 
run it. 
Kahn targeted airlines and said, in explicit reference to the Clark parable, “I 
really 
don’t know one plane from the other. To me, they’re all marginal costs with 
wings.”

The Reagan Revolution, further weakening unions and driving down minimum wages, 
brought 
surgi

Re: [Marxism] Economists' long-held beliefs make income inequality worse (Bosto n Glo be)

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Jonathan Schlefer's article reminds me that among progressive economists there 
has long been debate over the real nature of labor markets under capitalism.  
The British economist Joan Robinson, for instance argued that labor markets, 
like markets for manufactured goods, were imperfectly competitive at best,. 
While rejecting Karl Marx's reliance upon the labor theory of value,  she and  
A.C. Pigou had suggested that under conditions of imperfect competition labor 
may be exploited in the sense of it receiving less than its marginal product.  
Robinson accept this analysis and elaborated on it.  For Robinson workers could 
be said to be exploited if their wages were less than the marginal physical 
product that they are producing.  She also emphasized the distinction between 
exploitation resulting from monopolists or oligopolists being able to 
overcharge consumers because of a lack of competition and monopsonistic 
exploitation where employers are able to underpay their workers because workers 
have only a limited number of employers to choose from, which gives employers 
the power to pay workers less than their marginal productivity. 

Joan Robinson in her book, An Essay on Marxian Economics, made some attempt to 
relate this neoclassical theory of exploitation with Marx's.  In that book, 
Robinson made clear her rejection of the labor theory of value.  But she 
thought that Marx was still right about a great many things and so she sought 
ways to reformulate Marx's ideas so that they would be compelling to economists 
like herself who had been trained in the neoclassical tradition.  So she 
included in An Essay on Marxian Economics a chapter on imperfect competition, 
and in the following chapter applied that to wages. She argued that under 
capitalism labor markets are typically monopsonistic in nature, so that workers 
are indeed exploited in the neoclassical sense.  This also meant that she 
therefore found that wages are not determined by the free market equilibrating 
them with the marginal productivity of labor but are, instead, determined by 
the bargaining power of labor versus capital. In other words they are 
determined through class struggle as Marx had asserted. This view of wages, in 
Robinson's view, was implicit in Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations, where 
Smith had observed   " Masters are always and everywhere in a sort of tacit, 
but constant and uniform combination, not to raise the wages of labour above 
their actual rate. To violate this combination is everywhere a most unpopular 
action, and a sort of reproach to a master among his neighbours and equals." 
While not directly asserting that Marx's notions of exploitation could be 
restated in terms of the neoclassical theory of exploitation that she and Pigou 
had pioneered, she did seem to suggest that it could do much of the same work 
that had been done in Marx's writings where exploitation was explicated in 
terms of the labor theory of value.  However Marxist exploitation cannot really 
be the same as Pigou-Robinson exploitation since most Marxists would, I think, 
be unwilling to suggest that there would be no exploitation under a capitalism 
where perfect competition existed. Paul Flatau puts it:
 
"The presumption that under perfect competition workers cannot be exploited is 
a central tenet of neoclassical thought on the issue. Lange (1934-1935), in 
referring to the Pigou and Robinson analyses of exploitation, was quick to 
point out that ‘for the Socialist the worker is exploited even if he gets the 
full value of the marginal product’. This is because there still remains, in 
the competitive market, a flow of income to the owners of capital. As Lange 
puts it : ‘The Marxian definition of exploitation is derived from contrasting 
the personal distribution of income in a capitalist economy (irrespective of 
whether monopolistic or competitive) with that in an “einfache Warenproduktion” 
in which the worker owns his means of production’. See Elster (1978) for a more 
detailed discussion of the distinction between the (classical) Marxian approach 
to exploitation and the neoclassical."
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Jonathan Schlefer's article reminds me that among progressive economists there 
has long 
been debate over the real nature of labor markets under capitalism.  The 
British 
economist Joan Robinson, for instance argued that labor markets, like markets 
for 
manufactured goods, were imperfectly competitive at best,. While rejecting Karl 
Marx's 
reliance upon the labor theory of value,  she and  A.C. Pigou had suggested 
that under 
conditions of imperfect competition labor may be exploited in the sense of it 
receiving 
less than its marginal product.  Robinson accept this analysis and elaborated 
on it.  For 
Robinson workers could be said to be exploited if their wages were less than 
the marginal 
physical product that they are producing.  She also emphasized the distinction 
between 
exploitation resulting from monopolists or oligopolists being able to 
overcharge 
consumers because of a lack of competition and monopsonistic exploitation where 
employers 
are able to underpay their workers because workers have only a limited number 
of 
employers to choose from, which gives employers the power to pay workers less 
than their 
marginal productivity. 

Joan Robinson in her book, An Essay on Marxian Economics, made some attempt to 
relate 
this neoclassical theory of exploitation with Marx's.  In that book, Robinson 
made clear 
her rejection of the labor theory of value.  But she thought that Marx was 
still right 
about a great many things and so she sought ways to reformulate Marx's ideas so 
that they 
would be compelling to economists like herself who had been trained in the 
neoclassical 
tradition.  So she included in An Essay on Marxian Economics a chapter on 
imperfect 
competition, and in the following chapter applied that to wages. She argued 
that under 
capitalism labor markets are typically monopsonistic in nature, so that workers 
are 
indeed exploited in the neoclassical sense.  This also meant that she therefore 
found 
that wages are not determined by the free market equilibrating them with the 
marginal 
productivity of labor but are, instead, determined by the bargaining power of 
labor 
versus capital. In other words they are determined through class struggle as 
Marx had 
asserted. This view of wages, in Robinson's view, was implicit in Adam Smith's 
The Wealth 
of Nations, where Smith had observed   " Masters are always and everywhere in a 
sort 
of tacit, but constant and uniform combination, not to raise the wages of 
labour above 
their actual rate. To violate this combination is everywhere a most unpopular 
action, and 
a sort of reproach to a master among his neighbours and equals." While not 
directly 
asserting that Marx's notions of exploitation could be restated in terms of the 
neoclassical theory of exploitation that she and Pigou had pioneered, she did 
seem to 
suggest that it could do much of the same work that had been done in Marx's 
writings 
where exploitation was explicated in terms of the labor theory of value.  
However Marxist 
exploitation cannot really be the same as Pigou-Robinson exploitation since 
most Marxists 
would, I think, be unwilling to suggest that there would be no exploitation 
under a 
capitalism where perfect competition existed. Paul Flatau puts it:
 
"The presumption that under perfect competition workers cannot be exploited is 
a 
central tenet of neoclassical thought on the issue. Lange (1934-1935), in 
referring to 
the Pigou and Robinson analyses of exploitation, was quick to point out that 
�for the 
Socialist the worker is exploited even if he gets the full value of the 
marginal 
product�. This is because there still remains, in the competitive 
market, a flow of 
income to the owners of capital. As Lange puts it : �The Marxian 
definition of 
exploitation is derived from contrasting the personal distribution of income in 
a 
capitalist economy (irrespective of whether monopolistic or competitive) with 
that in an 
�einfache Warenproduktion� in which the worker owns his means of 
production�. See Elster 
(1978) for a more detailed discussion of the distinction between the 
(classical) Marxian 
approach to exploitation and the neoclassical."
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One implication of the type of analysis of labor markets that was pioneered 
by economists like Joan Robinson (which, apparently, is being popularized by 
Schlefer) is that if wages are less than workers' marginal productivity, 
then raising them,  instead of leading to decreased employment, as most 
orthodox economists have asserted, would lead to INCREASED employment 
because the pushing down of wages below the point where they would 
equilibrate with marginal productivity, leads to a constriction of the labor 
supply. Therefore, actions like a raising of the minimum wage should lead to 
less unemployment, not more, as opponents of the minimum wage assert. 
Indeed, there are more than a few empirical studies out there that suggest 
that to be the case.  The same also applies to labor union actions to raise 
the wages paid to their members too.


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Jonathan Schlefer's article reminds me that among progressive economists 
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I seem to recall that a few years ago, Al Quiada had an American-Jewish 
spokesman. He, of course, had converted to Islam before becoming a jihadist.

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Subject: [lbo-talk] Well, this is odd: "More French Jews said to join Islamic 
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:50:20 +0300

"'It's important to note that it's a very small minority,' the French
official told Channel 2."

http://www.timesofisrael.com/more-french-jews-among-is-ranks

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As the moderator of the Marxism-Thaxis List 
(https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/marxism-thaxis), I had that issue crop up at 
least a couple of times back when were being hosted at the University of Utah. 
One case involved a Turk who had posted to the list when he was a college 
student. A decade later, apparently, those old posts were causing him problems 
in Turkey, so I had to have Hans Ehrbar remove those.

Certainly in the case of Marxmail, there are subscribers who live under 
repressive regimes, so they need to be careful.

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we'll probably get a lot of grumbling for this, but.

You should not post to marxmail using your real name if you are
concerned about various people and organizations seeking and finding
such posts on the web. Our email list is archived at the U of Utah,
GMANE, mail-archive.com, and probably several others i cannot think of
at the moment. Because our host server at U of Utah is no longer under
our direct control, we have no easy way to remove posts that appear
there. So to convince people that they should sub under a fake name if
they want to avoid name <==> marxism linkage, we have added a warning to
our top header.

enjoy

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As a side-note, I would point out that the  marginal revenue productivity 
theory of wages, which is one of the pillars of neoclassical economics, was 
originally developed by the American economist, John Bates Clark,  who was a 
professor at Columbia University, but who had done his graduate education in 
Germany.  Up to 1886, he had been a kind of Christian Socialist, who was very 
critical of unrestrained economic competition, which he contended would not 
provide workers with a fair shake. However, during 1886, he completely changed 
his views about that, and became an ardent exponent of competitive capitalism.  
i'm sure most Marxmailers are aware of what happened in 1886. By most accounts, 
the one event that led  John Bates Clark to change his views on economics was 
the Haymarket Riot, which put the fear of God, or rather the fear of the 
working class into him.


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Louis was kind enough to post a link to the article by John Foster and me in 
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For decades, Paul Sweezy abd Harry Magdoff were criticizing official 
unemployment statistics as rather inconsistently understating levels of 
unemployment.  Apparently, the mainstream is just starting to catch on.

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On Friday, the US Labor Department will report the national unemployment rate 
for October. Markets will move. Economists will analyze. Politicians will react.

But many analysts — including Federal Reserve policy makers — have become 
disenchanted with a measure they say is not describing the true state of the US 
labor market. The September unemployment rate, 5.9 percent, was not far from 
the 5- to-5.5 percent level generally considered as full employment, but not 
many economists — or job seekers — would describe conditions as anywhere near 
that robust.


The problem is the rate, as it is calculated, doesn’t capture what is often 
called “hidden unemployment” — people who have given up looking for jobs, or 
work part time because they can’t find full-time position. More than 9 million 
Americans still fit into these categories, about 60 percent, or 3.5 million, 
above prerecession levels, according to the Labor Department.

 One of the lessons of the “Great Recession” and its sluggish aftermath 
is that the unemployment rate is not always a reliable indicator.

Historically, it has done a pretty good job, said Jared Bernstein, a senior 
fellow at the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, a Washington think tank, 
and former chief economic adviser to Vice President Joe Biden.

“But there are occasional periods when it doesn’t,” said Bernstein. “And we 
just went through one of those periods.”

Part of the problem is the last recession was so broad and deep that it created 
record numbers of long-term unem-ployed, and ultimately record numbers of 
discouraged workers giving up job searches. Fundamental changes in the US labor 
market also could be having an impact as more employers rely on part-time and 
contract workforces rather than full-time employees with full benefits.

The adequacy of the unemployment rate has become a particular issue as the 
Federal Reserve considers when and how fast to raise its benchmark short-term 
interest rate, which has stayed near zero since 2008.

Some policy makers, such as Richard Fisher, president of the Federal Reserve 
Bank of Dallas, say falling unemployment numbers and other indicators suggest 
the Fed should act sooner rather than later — or risk igniting inflation.

Others, including Federal Reserve chairwoman Janet Yellen and Eric Rosengren, 
president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, argue that the unemployment 
rate understates the weakness of the labor market, and the Fed should move 
cautiously in withdrawing stimulus from the economy.

So, what is the unemployment rate supposed to measure?

The basic idea is to figure out whether people who want jobs can get them. 
Sometimes, when the economy is weak, even eager, well-qualified people can’t 
get work, and you expect a high unemployment rate. Other times, as we saw in 
the late 1990s, jobs are plentiful, workers have leverage, and the 
unemploy-ment rate is far lower.

What’s the problem with the unemployment rate?

Here’s one of the big limitations. Let’s say there are 100 people either 
working or looking for work. If 94 of those people have jobs, and six are 
seeking jobs, then the unemployment rate is 6 percent.

Notice that a lot hinges on people “working or looking for work.” Say you want 
to work, but the job market is bad and you decide to put off the search until 
conditions get better. You’re still unemployed, just not counted as unemployed 
by the government.

To return to the example, if three of those six people looking for work get 
discouraged and give up, the unemployment rate would fall to about 3 percent.

Is there a better measure?

When you look beyond the unemployment rate, there’s a fair bit of evidence to 
suggest that the labor market isn’t actually that strong. One measure that gets 
cited a lot these days is called “U6,” which not only includes those working 
and looking for work, but also those who have given up job searches and work 
part time because they can’t find full-time positions.

The broader U6 rate in September was 11.8 percent, double the traditional 
unemployment rate.

This alternative measure also shows a much weaker recovery. The September 
jobless rate was 1.5 p

Re: [Marxism] Revolutionary Emancipation and religion

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 See the essay that I co-authored, "Six Prominent American Freethinkers" 
(http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2008/fl161208.html).

Freethinker #6, Michael Harrington, had rather crappy politics IMO but he had a 
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: 2014 Midterms: Economy Doomed the Democrats | New R epublic

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Also, we might want to keep in mind that Tuesday's elections are not atypical 
for a midterm election. Normally, in a midterm, the party that's in the White 
House, loses a significant number of seats in Congress. And for a two term 
president, the president's party will usually take quite a dribbing in his 
second midterm election. Just eight years ago, the GOP lost both houses of 
Congress. Likewise, during Reagan's second term in office, the GOP lost the 
Senate in that midterm election too.

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Re: [Marxism] Popularising Science: The Life and Work of J.B.S. Halda ne

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There is a lot that can be said about J. B. S. Haldane as a scientist, Marxist 
thinker, and political activist.  He was one of several young British 
scientists who attended the Second International Congress of the History of 
Science in London in 1931. which was also attended by a delegation of Soviet 
scientists and scholars, accompanied by Nikolai Bukharin  Among the Soviets who 
came to that conference was Boris Hessen,- a Soviet physicist and historian and 
philosopher of science, whose groundbreaking paper, "The Social and Economic 
Roots of Newton’s Principia" 
(https://rtraba.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/v1_hessen.pdf) made quite a splash 
and would have a profound impact on the emergence of the history of science as 
a distinct academic discipline in the West. Hessen's work, in particular, made 
a strong impression on J. B. S. Haldane, just as it did on some other British 
scientists like J.D. Bernal, Lancelot Hogben, and Joseph Needham, all of whom 
would go on to achieve eminence in their respective scientific specialties 
while also becoming very influential writers concerning the history and social 
functions of science, from a Marxist perspective.

Gary Werskey's book, The Visible College, gives good coverage of these British 
Marxist scientists, including Haldane. And Helena Sheehan provides a good 
discussion of these people in her recently reissued book, Marxism and the 
Philosophy of Science: A Critical History.  

Concerning Haldane, it is interesting to note that he was one of the CPGB's 
most popular speakers and writers. His column in The Daily Worker was extremely 
popular and it is said that a great many people, who were not at all 
sympathetic to the politics of that paper, nevertheless, took out subscriptions 
to it just so they could read his column.




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Re: [Marxism] Steven Pinker�s Ideas About ProgressAre Fatally Flawed. These Eight Graphs Show Why. - Resilience

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Given the prodigious amount of research that went into that book, one would 
think that Pinker would have done a better job with it.

A couple of points:

Steven Pinker writes as a defender of the Enlightenment heritage. One would 
think that given this objective, he would have dug more deeply into the 
intellectual history of the Enlightenment. But that was something that he did 
not do. For example, I'm not sure that I agree with Pinker's classification of 
Rousseau as a counter-Enlightenment thinker. I think that by doing so, it makes 
it easy to paper over the fact that the Enlightenment was not a monolith. That 
it was full of contradictions, which still exist to this day. I think it is a 
mistake to conflate Romanticism with the counter-Enlightenment, even though 
there was a good deal of overlap between the two. Jean-Jacques Rousseau was 
certainly a Romantic thinker but he was at the same time an Enlightenment 
thinker, and I think one can classify him as being a counter-Enlightenment 
thinker with a certain measure of trepidation. (BTW there is a decent 
discussion on the classification of Rousseau here: 
https://www.iep.utm.edu/rousseau/)
There are other Romantic writers who can be clearly classified as having been 
Enlightenment thinkers such as the poet Percy Shelley. He is generally 
classified as being a Romantic poet but he was almost certainly an 
Enlightenment thinker too, as reflected in such writings as his essay, The 
Necessity of Atheism, for which he was sent down from Oxford, and his poem, 
Queen Mab.  

All this complicates things for Pinker because Immanuel Kant, who is cited by 
Pinker as one of his exemplary Enlightenment thinkers, was very much an admirer 
of Rousseau. And just to complicate things a little further, intellectual 
historians and other commentators have debated whether Kant should be 
classified as an Enlightenment or as a counter-Enlightenment thinker too.

IPinker has a discussion of social Darwinism that I found to be unsatisfactory. 
Pinker complains that the term is too widely used such that it has become 
meaningless. He seems to blame Richard Hofstadter's book, Social Darwinism in 
American Thought, 1860–1915 for this. He also pins blame on Stephen Jay Gould 
as well. Pinker seems to think that the only genuine form of social Darwinism 
was the kind that stemmed from the work of Herbert Spencer and his followers. 
Pinker takes some pains to show that Spencer's thinking about evolution was not 
Darwinian, but was very much Lamarckian. He also emphasizes that Spencer's 
thought was basically libertarian in character and that Spencer was an opponent 
of imperialism and eugenics. Hence, in Pinker's view, it's illegitimate to tie 
social Darwinism with other right-wing ideas .

What Pinker's discussion fails to take into account is that there were indeed 
other forms of social Darwinism around in the late 19th and early 20th 
centuries besides Spencer's. The German biologist Ernst Haeckel, the man who 
introduced and popularized Darwinism in Germany, was also the proponent of his 
own brand of social Darwinism. And his variety of social Darwinism was indeed 
less individualistic than Spencer's, placing emphasis of the struggle for 
existence between competing nations and races. Haeckel was politically an avid 
supporter of Otto von Bismarck. He was himself a staunch German nationalist and 
he attempted to use his work in evolutionary biology to lend support to his 
political beliefs including his embracing of "scientific racism." Pinker says 
nothing at all about Haeckel. His name does not even appear in the book's 
index. And yet, Haeckel's brand of social Darwinism was at least as well known 
as Spencer's and nearly as influential.
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Re: [Marxism] Red-Brown Zombie plague

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There is, alas, nothing new about red/brown politics. This was something that 
Marx & Engels had to confront in their own day too. Thus, in the Manifesto, 
they wrote about what they referred to as True Socialism or German Socialism.

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By this, the long-wished for opportunity was offered to “True” Socialism of 
confronting the political movement with the Socialist demands, of hurling the 
traditional anathemas against liberalism, against representative government, 
against bourgeois competition, bourgeois freedom of the press, bourgeois 
legislation, bourgeois liberty and equality, and of preaching to the masses 
that they had nothing to gain, and everything to lose, by this bourgeois 
movement. German Socialism forgot, in the nick of time, that the French 
criticism, whose silly echo it was, presupposed the existence of modern 
bourgeois society, with its corresponding economic conditions of existence, and 
the political constitution adapted thereto, the very things those attainment 
was the object of the pending struggle in Germany.

To the absolute governments, with their following of parsons, professors, 
country squires, and officials, it served as a welcome scarecrow against the 
threatening bourgeoisie.

It was a sweet finish, after the bitter pills of flogging and bullets, with 
which these same governments, just at that time, dosed the German working-class 
risings.

While this “True” Socialism thus served the government as a weapon for fighting 
the German bourgeoisie, it, at the same time, directly represented a 
reactionary interest, the interest of German Philistines. In Germany, the 
petty-bourgeois class, a relic of the sixteenth century, and since then 
constantly cropping up again under the various forms, is the real social basis 
of the existing state of things.
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And Marx & Engels had the experience of seeing their erstwhile comrade,. 
Ferdinand Lassalle, coming out for an alliance of the German social democracy 
with Otto von Bismarck. And in France, some of the Blanquists would come out in 
support of General Georges Boulanger's quest for power.


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Subject: [Marxism] Red-Brown Zombie plague
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IMHO the plague is real, but not the result of nefarious infiltration (even
though there have always been infiltrators in any even moderately
significant leftist organization). This is the same type of phenomenon that
swept leftists into the cold war right during the witch hunts, and during
earlier periods of history (remember where Mussolini started). When leftist
individuals and small groups get disconnected from the working class and
mass movements on the left, some of them drift through the swampy waters
until a rightward eddy moves them into the enemy camp. In the post 1927
world, one major path has been from Stalinism to support of state regimes
in conflict with the USA and/or Western Europe. With the collapse of the
Soviet Union and the rise of Putin's klepto-orthodox rightist regime, it
was inevitable that some of the blindest and most corrupt supporters of the
old Soviet Union would go along for the ride, and that they would draw some
others into the right-wing eddies of the swamp along with them.

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 In the case of Obama, he is someone who certainly had read and was familiar 
with the work of people like Noam Chomsky and Edward Said. When he was starting 
out in Chicago politics , he hobnobbed with many left-wing people, including 
such folk as Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. He was for many years a member of 
the left-oriented black church of Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Obama, when it suited 
him, could speak the language of progressives and was able to convince 
progressives that he was one of them. But in the end, none of that really meant 
anything to him  When it became time for him to move up to the next level, he 
ditched all that in pursuit of the brass ring.

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[Marxism] Oskar Lange on Marx's second phase of communism.

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Oskar Lange on Marx's second phase of communism. From his On the Economic 
Theory of Socialism.

"The idea of distributing goods and services by free sharing sounds utopian, 
indeed. However, if applied to only a part of commodities free sharing is by no 
means such economic nonsense as might appear at a first glance. The demand for 
many commodities becomes, from a certain point on, quite inelastic. If the 
price of such a commodity is below, and the consumer’s income is above, a 
certain minimum, the commodity is treated by the consumer as if it were a free 
good. The commodity is consumed in such quantity that the want it serves to 
satisfy is perfectly saturated. Take, for instance, salt. Well-to-do people do 
the same with bread or with heating in winter. They do not stop eating bread at 
a point where the marginal utility of a slice is equal to the marginal utility 
of its price, nor do they turn down the heat by virtue of a similar 
consideration. Or would a decline of the price of soap to zero induce them to 
be so much more liberal in its use ? Even if the price were zero, the amount of 
salt, bread, fuel, and soap consumed by well-to-do people would not increase 
noticeably. With such commodities saturation is reached even at a positive 
price. If the price is already so low, and incomes so high, that the quantity 
consumed of those commodities is equal to the saturation amount, free sharing 
can be used as a method of distribution . Certain services are distributed in 
this way already in our present society.

"If a part of the commodities and services is distributed by free sharing, the 
price system needs to be confined only to the rest of them. However, though the 
demand for the commodities distributed by free sharing is, within limits, a 
fixed quantity, a cost has to be accounted for in order to be able to find out 
the best combination of factors and the optimum scale of output in producing 
them. The money income of the consumers must be reduced by an equivalent of the 
cost of production of these commodities. This means simply that free sharing 
provides, so to speak, a “socialized sector” of consumption the cost of which 
is met by taxation (for the reduction of consumers’ money incomes which has 
just been mentioned is exactly the taxation to cover the consumption by free 
sharing). Such a sector exists also in capitalist society, comprising, for 
instance, free education, free medical service by social insurance, public 
parks, and all the collective wants in Cassel’s sense (e.g., street lighting). 
It is quite conceivable that as wealth increases this sector increases, too, 
and an increasing number of commodities are distributed by free sharing until, 
finally, all the prime necessaries of life are provided for in this way, the 
distribution by the price system being confined to better qualities and 
luxuries. Thus Marx’s second phase of communism may be gradually approached."
---

Oskar Lange did not cite Ronald Coase's notion of transaction costs here 
(presumably because Coase was still a nobody within economics at that time). 
But Coase's insight that the resorting to the price system and markets has its 
own costs seems relevant to Lange's argument.

Coase's relevance would be this:

In his 1937 paper, The Nature of the Firm, he pointed out that firms internally 
DO NOT work like markets and he made the argument why that should be rational 
behavior on their part, and more importantly, why firms should exist in the 
first place within a market economy.

When he wrote that, Coase was a socialist (he would later become a 
conservative). He was a close friend of Abba Lerner, and like Lerner, was at 
that time very much interested in the "socialist calculation" debate..

One of Coase's concerns at that time was to show how to reconcile the apparent 
economic success of the Soviet Union with the neoclassical economics that he 
was committed to. His paper, "The Nature of the Firm" sketched out the kind of 
economic reasoning which could reconcile support for socialist economic 
planning with a commitment to neoclassical economic theory. For Coase, the key 
concept here was that of "transaction costs", which denoted the costs incurred 
by relying on the market and price system for organizing economic activity. 
It's precisely because transaction costs are often of significant size that 
people turn away from direct reliance upon the market and price system. Coase 
also used the concept of transaction costs in his famous 1960 paper, "The 
Problem of Social Cost", where he presented what has come to be known as 
"Coase's Theorem."

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[Marxism] Doug Greene on Karl Kautsky

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Karl Kautsky: From Pope to Renegade

In the last few years, there has been a revival of interest in Kautsky's 
politics in both academia and on the political left.


At the height of the Second International, Karl Kautsky was recognized by 
socialists and anti-socialists alike as “The Pope of Marxism” for his 
popularization and systematization of Marxist ideas. The great figures of the 
day looked to him for guidance, whether Rosa Luxemburg, Leon Trotsky, V. I. 
Lenin, or Eugene Debs. Since Kautsky was such an authoritative voice on 
Marxism, his subsequent betrayal was so deep that later communists could be 
forgiven for mistaking his first name as “Renegade” (as Lenin bitterly called 
him). Although Kautsky fell into obscurity following the Russian Revolution, in 
the last few years there has been a revival of interest in his politics in both 
academia (notably by the scholar Lars Lih) and on the political left. This 
raises questions about the meaning of Kautsky’s orthodox Marxism and about 
what, if anything, a renewed revolutionary left should adopt from it as our own?


More:

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This discussion sort of reminds me of some of the ideas that the Austrian 
economist and philosopher Otto Neurath had concerning socialist economic 
planning.

In an article that Mark Lindley and myself wrote on Friedrich Hayek, we noted 
concerning Neurath:


Until fairly recently, his role in the socialist-calculation debate has tended 
to be downplayed in literature about the debate, most likely because he 
communicated with Hayek by post rather than publicly. In recent years, however, 
research on ecological economics and sustainable development has fostered a 
revival of interest in some of his economic ideas because he advocated 
“in-kind” (as distinguished from monetary) economic accounting( Naturalrechnung 
). (In the 1920s he also advocated Vollsozialisierung , i.e “complete” rather 
than merely partial“socialization.”) His proposed changes to the economic 
system were therefore more radical than those advocated by the mainstream 
Social-Democratic parties of Germany and Austria, and he debated these matters 
in the ’with leading Social-Democratic theoreticians (such as Karl Kautsky, who 
insisted upon the necessity of money in a socialist economy). It was while 
serving as a government economist during the war that he had observed that“As a 
result of the war, in-kind calculus was applied more often and more 
systematically than before It was all too apparent that war was fought with 
ammunition and with the supply of food, not with money” —and had come to 
believe in the feasibility of an economic system with planning done in terms of 
quantitative amounts of specified goods and services, and with no use at all 
for monetary currency. (It was in response to these ideas that Mises wrote his 
famous essay of 1920.) For Neurath, war economies displayed advantages in 
regard to speed of decision and execution, optimal distribution of means 
relative to (military) goals, and no-nonsense evaluation and utilization of 
inventiveness. Two disadvantages which he perceived as resulting from 
centralized decision-making were a reduction in productivity and a loss of the 
benefits of simple economic exchanges; but he thought (as did Lenin) that the 
reduction in productivity could be mitigated by means of “scientific” 
techniques based on analysis of work-flows etc. as advocated by Frederick 
Winslow Taylor (an American mechanical engineer and management consultant). 
Neurath believed that socio-economic theory and scientific methods could be 
applied together in contemporary practice.Although he was opposed to “market 
socialism” (as well as to capitalism), he believed in granting some degree of 
independence to small producers in the crafts and in agriculture:
 
“The doctrine that there is a trend towards ever more comprehensive 
organizations has been confirmed fully, less so the doctrine that small 
businesses will be replaced by large-scale concerns.”

He considered it essential, however, that small producers of various sorts be 
organized in a multitude of regional and branch organizations to ensure that 
goods and services would be produced according to a central plan, and he held 
that “total socialization” would require a comprehensive statistical 
apparatus:“Even before they begin their work, all bodies ... should be required 
to report to the Central Economic Administration, which, in collaboration with 
the Center for Statistics ... will fit the individual results into the 
universal statistics.”

When countering the theories of some of the leading Austrian champions of 
market economics (Carl Menger and Joseph Schumpeter), Neurath found that he had 
to challenge some of their basic assumptions. From Aristotle and from socialist 
literature he adopted the radical notion of wealth as based on use-value and 
welfare, whereby economic theory would be concerned with “wealth” in the sense 
of people’s physical and social conditions. His concept of welfare was, 
however, more Epicurean than Aristotelian; he said that “social Epicureanism”
 
“deals with the happiness of human beings as an effect of social actions. What 
is the effect of different orders of life, of different measures, on 
the conditions of life of human beings and thereby on their happiness and 
unhappiness?”
 
He felt that economists should try to find out which conditions promote 
people’s wealth in that sense of the term,and which institutions increase or 
decrease it. But he also perceived a theoretical challenge in regard to 
representing wealth and its allocation in such terms – namely, how to defend 
the rationality, objectivity and 

Re: [Marxism] Trans ideology

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I would hardly be surprised to see attacks on transgender people from the 
right. That sort of thing is only to be expected from people who are committed 
to the existence of rigid hierarchies that are alleged to  be "natural." But I 
am astounded when I see the same sort of thing coming from people who identify 
as leftists, and even Marxists. And I have seen more than a few Marxists, 
including some quite prominent figures do just that.


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Subject: Re: [Marxism] Trans ideology
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 17:14:33 +1100

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"We are suppose to believe that trans women are women,
lesbians can have penises, and biological sex is a social construct. "

The claim is *gender* is a social construct, not biological sex. Hence the
term is transgender, not and transexual.

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> Science is under attack as universities, workplaces and governments are
> drawing up policies and laws to codify a fiction that makes creationism
> look sensible. We are suppose to believe that trans women are women,
> lesbians can have penises, and biological sex is a social construct. The
> idea that a man can literally be transformed into a woman, and a woman can
> be a man, has gained ground over the past decade.
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> Parliament is considering a law that would enable anyone to change their
> sex on their birth certificate by simply filling out a form. A similar
> bill, the Gender Recognition Act, is being promoted in the UK by the
> Conservative government.
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> This self ID process is supposed to ease the suffering of people with
> severe body dysphoria. This is a rare condition in which a person is
> tormented by the belief that he or she was born in the wrong body. However
> the majority of trans women activists do not have body dysphoria and do not
> want any medical or surgical procedures. The majority are hanging on to
> their penises and are aggressively demanding rights that impact on women. .
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This is from an old post that I wrote for LBO-Talk back in the early 2000's.


Some time ago,I just picked up in a used bookstore Levy Rahmani, *Soviet 
Psychology: Philosophical, Theoretical and Experimental Issues* ( NY: Internal 
Universities Press, 1973) which provides an almost encyclopedic coverage of the 
development of Soviet psychology from the October Revolution down to the 1960s. 
He covers most of the usual suspects including the physiologists, Ivan Pavlov 
and Vladimir Bechterev, both of whom had been strongly influenced by the great 
Russian physiologist Ivan Sechenov (the father of Russian physiology), then 
Kornilov, who apparently made the first attempt in the Soviet Union to develop 
a specifically Marxist psychology, Vygotsky, Rubenshtein, both of whom 
crystallized what became some of the central ideas of Soviet psychology, 
Alexander Luria, who is often called the father of neuropsychology, plus many 
other people whom I am less familiar with.

According to Rahmani, Soviet psychologists following the October Revolution 
declared that psychology as a science was in a state of crisis, analogous to 
the crises in the natural sciences that Lenin had described in his Materialism 
and Empiriocriticism* The crisis in psychology was seen as emerging from a 
contradiction between the materialist outlook that was associated with 
experimental psychology, and the idealism which bourgeois psychology retained 
from the philosophies of Descartes, Locke, Berkeley, and Kant. The writings of 
Wundt, the father of modern psychology, were seen as exemplifying this 
contradiction. Therefore, early Soviet psychologists were more than willing to 
give a fair hearing to psychologies that challenged Wundt's introspectionism 
including both John B. Watson's behaviorism and Gestalt psychology. Watson's 
work was looked favorably upon because he was seen as attempting to articulate 
a materialist psychology. Watson was invited to write an article on behaviorism 
for the Large Soviet Encyclopedia. Gestalt psychology was treated favorably at 
first because it was seen as an attempt at developing a dialectical psychology. 
A little later on Soviet psychologists initiated attempts at developing their 
own psychological theories which were they hoped would be consistent with basic 
Marxist principles such as the materialist conception of history and Lenin's 
analysis of reflection.

As Rahmani makes clear, that while Soviet psychology as it evolved can be 
thought of as comprising a single school, a diversity of viewpoints did 
flourish within it. Thus, there were a variety of opinions concerning the 
status of Pavlov's reflexology. While nearly everyone expressed the utmost 
respect for Pavlov, opinions differed over how far that people thought that 
psychological phenomena could be explained in terms of his concepts of 
conditioned reflexes. Some people thought that nearly everything could be 
explained that way, while others thought that the range of phenomena that could 
be so explained was more limited and that other concepts and principles were 
required as well. Also, it should be noted for during the early 1950s Pavlovian 
psychology was for a while the official psychology in the Soviet Union, with 
most other views, such as Vygotsky's suppressed, a situation which changed 
following the death of Stalin. In fact a weakness of the book, is that is 
largely ignores the larger political context in which shifts in psychological 
opinion mirrored or were conditioned by shifts in the political winds.



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[Marxism] The raw material of exploitation: Harry Braverman's 'Labor and Monopoly Capital'- lecture and essay by Doug Enaa Greene

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Here is the essay in Links International Journal of Socialist Renewal
http://links.org.au/node/4566

And here is the video of the talk delivered yesterday  by Doug Greene at the 
Center for Marxist Education in Cambridge, MA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs1fxy9g5kc








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This sort of thing always pops up whenever social democratic governments start 
encroaching on the prerogatives of capital. Typically, some sort of a capital 
strike occurs, usually, capital flight occurs too. The government is then faced 
with the choice of either pushing on in a more radical direction, taking over 
sectors of the economy and bringing them under public ownership, or it must 
retreat. Over the past generation, most social democratic governments when 
faced with this kind of situation have retreated. Mitterrand did that in the 
early 1980s in France. Very recently, the Syriza government did that in Greece, 
after being threatened by the Troika. One of the few exceptions has been the 
Venezuelan government under the late Hugo Chavez and Nicolás Maduro, who have 
had the benefit of oil resources to give them a fiscal cushion, plus the fact 
that their governments have been willing to educate and mobilize the masses to 
support revolutionary policies.

The economist Michael Lebowitz, (who has served as an adviser to the Venezuelan 
government), addressed some of these issues just over a decade ago, in a 
Monthly Review article, "Ideology and Economic Development" 
(http://monthlyreview.org/2004/05/01/ideology-and-economic-development/).

There, he noted: 

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Yet, it is essential to understand that the conclusions of the neoclassical 
economists are embedded in their assumptions—and particularly relevant here is 
the assumption that all other things are equal. Consider two simple examples, 
rent control and mineral royalties.8 If you introduce rent controls (at an 
effective level), the conservative economist predicts that the supply of rental 
housing will dry up and a housing shortage will emerge. Likewise, he will tell 
us that if you attempt to tax resource rents (notoriously difficult to 
estimate), investment and production in these sectors will decline, generating 
unemployment. Both those propositions can be easily demonstrated—and they can 
also easily be demonstrated to be entirely fallacious with respect to the 
necessary conclusion.

Assumed constant in both cases is the character and level of government 
activity. Clearly, rent controls may reduce private rental construction—but if 
the government simultaneously engages in the development of social housing 
programs (e.g., the fostering of cooperatives and other forms of nonprofit 
housing), there is no necessary emergence of a housing shortage. Similarly, 
taxing resource revenues may dry up private investment in mineral exploration 
but a government corporation established for exploration and production in this 
sector can counteract the effects of a capital strike. Obviously, all other 
things are not necessarily equal. Why should all other things be equal if a 
social democratic government rejects the logic of capital?

Thus, we need to be aware of the limits of the conservative economist’s logic. 
However, that does not at all mean that these arguments can be ignored! Because 
what the conservative economist does quite well is indicate what capital will 
do in response to particular measures. It is an economics of capital. And, 
nothing is more naive than to assume that you can undertake certain measures of 
economic policy without a response from capital; nothing is more certain to 
backfire than introducing measures that serve people’s needs without 
anticipating capital’s response. Those who do not respect the conservative 
economist’s logic, which is the logic of capital, and incorporate it into their 
strategy are doomed to constant surprises and disappointments.

Understanding the responses of capital means that a capital strike can be an 
opportunity rather than a crisis. If you reject dependence upon capital, the 
logic of capital can be revealed clearly as contrary to the needs and interests 
of people. When capital goes on strike, there are two choices, give in or move 
in. Unfortunately, social democracy in practice has demonstrated that it is 
limited by the same things that limit Keynesianism in theory—the givens of the 
structure and distribution of ownership and the priority of self-interest by 
the owners. As a result, when capital has gone on strike, the social-democratic 
response has been to give in. 

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Likewise, Oskar Lange in "The policy of transition", wrote the following:

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The preceding treatment of the allocation of resources and of pricing in a 
socialist economy refers to a socialist system already established. The 
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[Marxism] The Heroic Deed: Myth and Revolution

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The essay, by Doug Enaa Greene,  was published in Red Wedge.
http://www.redwedgemagazine.com/essays/heroic-deed-myth-revolution

And the video of the talk, based on that essay, can be seen here.
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[Marxism] Nicos Poulantzas: State, class and the transition to socialism

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The video of Doug Greene's lecture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzG2P4M8b0


The article on which the lecture was based.
http://www.redwedgemagazine.com/essays/heroic-deed-myth-revolution







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I should have know better than to trust Doug Greene with providing the correct 
link to his Poulangtzas article. :)

The correct link is:
http://links.org.au/node/4543


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The video of Doug Greene's lecture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuzG2P4M8b0


The article on which the lecture was based.
http://www.redwedgemagazine.com/essays/heroic-deed-myth-revolution




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