Re: [Matplotlib-users] How Does One Learn to Use MatPlotLib?

[dred]

Not read it myself but 'Matplotlib for Python Developers' might be what
you're after -  see review http://dalelane.co.uk/blog/?p=1222

Best way to learn Matplotlib is to use a good IDE like Spyder. I find it
much easier than IPython.  http://code.google.com/p/spyderlib/

Installing Python(x,y) is the easiest way to set it all up.

Doug



Wayne Watson wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info. I'm semi-resistant to ipython. I tried if for a
> few hours, and it seemed a bit too much like linux. Years ago I used
> linux a lot, and enjoyed it. I'll consider it. Windows is the game now. 
> 
> Yes, actual use is good, but the needed imports seem a bit baffling.
> scipy, pylab, matplotlib, ...? What components do  I only need for a
> particular use? 
> 
> The videos you mentioned could be helpful. 
> 
> I do not belong to any group, and my small town is a long way from any
> educational resources.What I learn is from a few books, FAQs, and
> recently the MPL Guide. Within a 50 mile radius, I know exactly one
> other person who knows Python. He's a very bright high school student. 
> 
> On 2/9/2010 10:33 PM, Gökhan Sever wrote:
> 
>   
>   On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Wayne Watson
>   < sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net >
> wrote: 
>   Subject
> is the question. 
> 
> As I see it, it's useful to know MatLab. A simple query with matplotlib 
> tutorial shows a number of hits. The first, reference to v0.99.a 
> documentation barely qualifies. Examples galore and a pretty minimal 
> introduction. In the first 10 or so hits ther's a blog and mention of a 
> video. The blog may appeal to some, but it seems unelementary. The video 
> basically asks to sign in. Who knows where that goes? I've seen a few 
> videos for MPL, but they all look tied into $$. 
> 
> I've made some reasonable progress on MPL, but am still far short of 
> being confident of using it.  Too much try this and see. 
> 
> I know of exactly one book on MPL ( for scientists. sounds interesting). 
> It was published recently by a foreign author. It is not yet widely 
> distributed. 
> 
> Your turn. Comments? 
> -- 
> "Crime is way down. War is declining. And that's far from the good 
> news." -- Steven Pinker (and other sources) Why is this true, but yet 
> the media says otherwise? The media knows very well how to manipulate us 
> (see limbic, emotion, $$). -- WTW 
> 
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>   
>   
>   
> For me best way to learn is to use it actually :) Especially on
> homework and projects. Mailing lists are also very helpful as you are
> already doing. 
>   
> Try with ipython --pylab option. 
>   
> Also check SciPy09 ( http://conference.scipy.org/SciPy2009/ )
> videos. There are one introductory and advanced tutorials that you can
> see online (without registering) or downloading to your computer. 
>   
>   
>   
> -- 
> Gökhan 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "Crime is way down. War is declining. And that's far from the good
> news." -- Steven Pinker (and other sources)
> Why is this true, but yet the media says otherwise? The media
> knows very well how to manipulate us (see limbic, emotion, $$). -- WTW 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Matplotlib-users] How Does One Learn to Use MatPlotLib? (PUG)

[Gökhan Sever]

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Wayne Watson  wrote:

> I'm beginning to read aboutPython OOP, classes, inheritance and the like.
> It seems like an understanding of those concepts is key to understanding how
> the import needs are met.
>
> --
> "Crime is way down. War is declining. And that's far from the good news."
> -- Steven Pinker (and other sources) Why is this true, but yet the media
> says otherwise? The media knows very well how to manipulate us (see limbic,
> emotion, $$). -- WTW
>

I suggest you studying these books:

http://homepage.mac.com/s_lott/books/index.html

I learnt a great deal of information from the Python for Programmers title.

Besides you can take a look at Fernando's starter page at
http://fperez.org/py4science/starter_kit.html You can find many valuable
general Python sources listed there (especially tutorial videos from
PyCon09)

I can also suggest you trying Eclipse + PyDev combination. PyDev makes
debugging and following the flow of your programs very easier. For instance;

Try:

import matplotlib.pypot as plt
plt.plot(range(10))
plt.show()

and set a breakpoint in the first line and step into the matplotlib code to
see how it flows.

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Re: [Matplotlib-users] How Does One Learn to Use MatPlotLib? (PUG)

[Wayne Watson]

I'm beginning to read aboutPython OOP, classes, inheritance and the 
like. It seems like an understanding of those concepts is key to 
understanding how the import needs are met.
-- 
"Crime is way down. War is declining. And that's far from the good 
news." -- Steven Pinker (and other sources) Why is this true, but yet 
the media says otherwise? The media knows very well how to manipulate us 
(see limbic, emotion, $$). -- WTW

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Re: [Matplotlib-users] How Does One Learn to Use MatPlotLib? (PUG)

[Wayne Watson]

Well, here's an interesting twist on help, PUG, Python Users Groups. A 
world wide list is at ., 
The nearest one to me is near San Jose, CA about 180 miles from here, 
and meets the fourth Thursday of the month. Fortunately, I travel down 
there fairly often to visit friends and family. I think I'll mark my 
calendar.
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news." -- Steven Pinker (and other sources) Why is this true, but yet 
the media says otherwise? The media knows very well how to manipulate us 
(see limbic, emotion, $$). -- WTW

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Re: [Matplotlib-users] How Does One Learn to Use MatPlotLib?

[Wayne Watson]

Thanks for the info. I'm semi-resistant to ipython. I tried if for a
few hours, and it seemed a bit too much like linux. Years ago I used
linux a lot, and enjoyed it. I'll consider it. Windows is the game now.

Yes, actual use is good, but the needed imports seem a bit baffling.
scipy, pylab, matplotlib, ...? What components do  I only need for a
particular use?

The videos you mentioned could be helpful. 

I do not belong to any group, and my small town is a long way from any
educational resources.What I learn is from a few books, FAQs, and
recently the MPL Guide. Within a 50 mile radius, I know exactly one
other person who knows Python. He's a very bright high school student. 

On 2/9/2010 10:33 PM, Gökhan Sever wrote:

  
  On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Wayne Watson
  
wrote:
  Subject
is the question.

As I see it, it's useful to know MatLab. A simple query with matplotlib
tutorial shows a number of hits. The first, reference to v0.99.a
documentation barely qualifies. Examples galore and a pretty minimal
introduction. In the first 10 or so hits ther's a blog and mention of a
video. The blog may appeal to some, but it seems unelementary. The video
basically asks to sign in. Who knows where that goes? I've seen a few
videos for MPL, but they all look tied into $$.

I've made some reasonable progress on MPL, but am still far short of
being confident of using it.  Too much try this and see.

I know of exactly one book on MPL ( for scientists. sounds interesting).
It was published recently by a foreign author. It is not yet widely
distributed.

Your turn. Comments?
--
"Crime is way down. War is declining. And that's far from the good
news." -- Steven Pinker (and other sources) Why is this true, but yet
the media says otherwise? The media knows very well how to manipulate us
(see limbic, emotion, $$). -- WTW



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For me best way to learn is to use it actually :) Especially on
homework and projects. Mailing lists are also very helpful as you are
already doing. 
  
Try with ipython --pylab option. 
  
Also check SciPy09 (http://conference.scipy.org/SciPy2009/)
videos. There are one introductory and advanced tutorials that you can
see online (without registering) or downloading to your computer.
  
  
  
-- 
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news." -- Steven Pinker (and other sources)
Why is this true, but yet the media says otherwise? The media
knows very well how to manipulate us (see limbic, emotion, $$). -- WTW



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Re: [Matplotlib-users] How Does One Learn to Use MatPlotLib?

[Gökhan Sever]

On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Wayne Watson
wrote:

> Subject is the question.
>
> As I see it, it's useful to know MatLab. A simple query with matplotlib
> tutorial shows a number of hits. The first, reference to v0.99.a
> documentation barely qualifies. Examples galore and a pretty minimal
> introduction. In the first 10 or so hits ther's a blog and mention of a
> video. The blog may appeal to some, but it seems unelementary. The video
> basically asks to sign in. Who knows where that goes? I've seen a few
> videos for MPL, but they all look tied into $$.
>
> I've made some reasonable progress on MPL, but am still far short of
> being confident of using it.  Too much try this and see.
>
> I know of exactly one book on MPL ( for scientists. sounds interesting).
> It was published recently by a foreign author. It is not yet widely
> distributed.
>
> Your turn. Comments?
> --
> "Crime is way down. War is declining. And that's far from the good
> news." -- Steven Pinker (and other sources) Why is this true, but yet
> the media says otherwise? The media knows very well how to manipulate us
> (see limbic, emotion, $$). -- WTW
>
>
> --
> SOLARIS 10 is the OS for Data Centers - provides features such as DTrace,
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>

For me best way to learn is to use it actually :) Especially on homework and
projects. Mailing lists are also very helpful as you are already doing.

Try with ipython --pylab option.

Also check SciPy09 (http://conference.scipy.org/SciPy2009/) videos. There
are one introductory and advanced tutorials that you can see online (without
registering) or downloading to your computer.



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Re: [Matplotlib-users] How Does One Learn to Use MatPlotLib?

[C M]

 wrote:
> Subject is the question.
>
> As I see it, it's useful to know MatLab. A simple query with matplotlib
> tutorial shows a number of hits. The first, reference to v0.99.a
> documentation barely qualifies. Examples galore and a pretty minimal
> introduction. In the first 10 or so hits ther's a blog and mention of a
> video. The blog may appeal to some, but it seems unelementary. The video
> basically asks to sign in. Who knows where that goes? I've seen a few
> videos for MPL, but they all look tied into $$.
>
> I've made some reasonable progress on MPL, but am still far short of
> being confident of using it.  Too much try this and see.
>
> I know of exactly one book on MPL ( for scientists. sounds interesting).
> It was published recently by a foreign author. It is not yet widely
> distributed.
>
> Your turn. Comments?

Have you read the manual itself?  I found that quite helpful in getting started:

http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/users/index.html

I've been satisfied with learning a bit here and there as I go.  It's
a big project, and I don't expect to understand it all at once.  But,
that said, even with a partial understanding I'm pleased at what it
can do for my needs.  What I find is first you should determine what
is the desired outcome you want, then Google around for mentions of
this in old threads or on the matplotlib site, then maybe try asking
for assistance on the list.

Che

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[Matplotlib-users] How Does One Learn to Use MatPlotLib?

[Wayne Watson]

Subject is the question.

As I see it, it's useful to know MatLab. A simple query with matplotlib 
tutorial shows a number of hits. The first, reference to v0.99.a 
documentation barely qualifies. Examples galore and a pretty minimal 
introduction. In the first 10 or so hits ther's a blog and mention of a 
video. The blog may appeal to some, but it seems unelementary. The video 
basically asks to sign in. Who knows where that goes? I've seen a few 
videos for MPL, but they all look tied into $$.

I've made some reasonable progress on MPL, but am still far short of 
being confident of using it.  Too much try this and see.

I know of exactly one book on MPL ( for scientists. sounds interesting). 
It was published recently by a foreign author. It is not yet widely 
distributed.

Your turn. Comments?
-- 
"Crime is way down. War is declining. And that's far from the good 
news." -- Steven Pinker (and other sources) Why is this true, but yet 
the media says otherwise? The media knows very well how to manipulate us 
(see limbic, emotion, $$). -- WTW

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