Re: [ANN] mc^2
On 5/11/15, Alexander Kriegisch alexan...@kriegisch.name wrote: And now there comes along Mooffie and donates something to the project. As I expected based on my experience with my own patches, people start discussing details and demanding smaller patches In case you're referring here to people asking me to split my patch into smaller ones, then they're absolutely right in their request. It's something I certainly ought to do. [...] instead of discussing and staying stuck in your analysis paralysis? (I think people here were all positive towards the idea behind mc^2, so I believe your impression, in this case at least, was wrong. There was just one guy (Paul) who showed some frustration. I don't think harm has been done *yet* ;-) ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: [ANN] mc^2
Hey guys. Just my two cents because I am still subscribed to this list even though after several years my pet ticket with ready-to use improvement patches have still not been merged into the main line because the project is practically dead. No offense meant, it is OSS and the developers do it for free in their sparetime. I have a high respect for that, guys. I know there are more or less frequent releases, but IMO they do not bring a lot of added value, at least not for me. And now there comes along Mooffie and donates something to the project. As I expected based on my experience with my own patches, people start discussing details and demanding smaller patches instead of just breathing some new life into MC by friggin' merging the patches into to code base. Sorry for being an Agile Coach and thus a smart-ass by nature, but can you not just apply, inspect, adapt instead of discussing and staying stuck in your analysis paralysis? Thank you so much for bearing with me, and feel free to just ignore my rant if you do not like it. I have no intention of self-defending me or my theses and turning this discussion into a flame war. I just wanted to get this off my chest. Kind regards -- Alexander Kriegisch http://scrum-master.de___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: [ANN] mc^2
On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 02:28 +0300, Paul Sokolovsky wrote: Come on, how can I stop something new being accepted if I can't get even a reasonable response and dialog from maintainers regarding a 5-year old issue with 2-years old patch at iteration #5, to which maintainers themselves contributed?. You overestimate my powers. Very simply so; let me give you a specific example: last Sunday you took the time that I personally could have put into looking further at mooffie's patch away by starting an nonconstructive conversation. Unfortunately, I felt the need to engage, because I was afraid that mooffie will get an impression that his work is not welcome; however, I'd really like to see it merged, and to get this done, it requires him to re-apply his changes on top of master in smaller digestible chunks, so that it can be properly reviewed. If he gets demotivated, I don't see this happening. So, as the time I could donate to OSS on this day ran out, I simply had to close the laptop lid. One could see it as a primitive denial of service attack... -- Sincerely yours, Yury V. Zaytsev ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: [ANN] mc^2
Hi Alexander, On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 16:33 +0200, Alexander Kriegisch wrote: Sorry for being an Agile Coach and thus a smart-ass by nature, but can you not just apply, inspect, adapt instead of discussing and staying stuck in your analysis paralysis? If you'd actually followed the thread, you would have gathered that inspect, adapt and apply (in this order) is exactly what the maintainers are after in this particular case. It would be great if you would consider using some other venue if you just want to get something random off your chest: I have no problem with constructive rants, but almost every single sentence of your post was misguided. However, very annoyingly, trying to explain something to you will most likely not work anyways, but also take time away from actually getting mooffie's work merged. Thanks! -- Sincerely yours, Yury V. Zaytsev ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
