Re: MD: where to buy new mz-r50...
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === There are several for sale on Ebay http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResultebaytag1=ebayreght=1query=R50+mini*ebaytag1code=0SortProperty=MetaEndSort Crak Therapy wrote: hi Jim, Crak Therapy wrote: i am going back to the future to purchase a new mz-r50. [i am interested in minidiscs mainly for live recording of gigs etc. i bought a mz-r90 but it's not the best for live recording(distorts too easily, skips sometimes when recording, and it had its first recording failure last week)] You might try the Sony Outlet Stores. http://www.online-sony.com/terms.asp yeah, i had a look but they didnt seem to have any r50s at the moment and they only ship to the USA anyway.[as i said i'm in australia] Try setting the record level manually for loud gigs. i have. distortion still occurs on a regular basis before the level goes 'over'. i think it's due to this problem as reported on this list a few months ago: I a couple of other guys have been measuring the inputs of the R50, R55, R90. The R50 on low sensitivity clips at 150mV, The R55 on low at 170mV, The R90 (no switch) at 28mV. They removed the high/low sensitivity switch on the R90 and it's far too easy too overload. I have pretty weak mics (sens. -48dB) and they will clip the R90 at about 110dB SPL. If you have mics based on the ubiquitous Panasonic WM60 or 61 they will clip much earlier. (NB: This clipping is irrespective of record level setting, it's the input stage clipping before any gain control, they are absolute limits.) So you really have to buy or make a battery box use the line in. i have been considering trying to do something to increase the output from the mics so they reach line-in level, but i dont have the knowledge to do it myself without interfering with the sound quality[although it would still be better than distortion...!] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Digital recordings and track marks...
I remember posting previously about an observation I made about digitally recording the audio from DVDs, and not getting the chapter breaks as track marks - which I initially (before trying) thought I'd get. The situation at the time was Samsung DVD-709 DVD player, using IXOS coaxial cable connected to the coaxial digital in on a Sharp MD-X5H minidisc bookshelf unit (the 709 only has a coaxial out - no optical out). Since, I've bought a Midiman CO2, allowing me to convert between coaxial and optical (and vice versa) as well as pass through at the same time. Mainly my reasoning being whether I could perceive any improvement to recordings from (presumably) later incarnations of the respective ATRAC versions in my portables (Sharp MT-16E and Aiwa F65) compared with my Sharp X5H. Not for true scientfic reasons - nor were the conditions particularly scientific, just merely to see if there were any benefits to me. So I connected the coaxial digital out from my 709 to the coax in on the Midiman CO2, then connected the coax out from the CO2 to the coax in on my X5H. I then connected the optical out on the CO2 to the optical in on my MT-16. I then used my 709 to play a CD, and used the digital connection (thru the convertor) as input to my MT-16 and recorded it. However it didn't record any track marks (AUTO-MARK was set on the MT-16, but should be irrelevant for digital recordings). I suspect this to be simply a factor of the manner in which my DVD player emits digital signals from playing audio CDs, rather than the use of either the convertor, or behaviour of my MT-16. At some point I'll probably try this to record to my F65 and X5H, too, to see if they both don't record track marks - I suspect they won't, as my hunch is it's source related. On a related note, I've never actually tried recording from my Sonic Vortex2 soundcard (optical out), either - I bought it for this purpose, but never got round to actually trying it! Is there any reason that people know, as to why my DVD / VCD / CD player wouldn't send track marks for audio CDs? Is it a general thing, in that most DVD players don't, or a "feature" of the model? I know I haven't exactly proved this point yet, but it is at least consistent with the unit not sending track marks for chapter breaks on DVDs. Cheers Neil ___ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Digital recordings and track marks...
Neil wrote, | I then used my 709 to play a CD, and used the digital connection (thru the | convertor) as input to my MT-16 and recorded it. However it didn't record | any track marks (AUTO-MARK was set on the MT-16, but should be irrelevant | for digital recordings). The CO3 is said to have the same problem. The subcode information from which track mark locations are inferred is removed, so the recorder believes that a single long track continues and continues. | Is there any reason that people know, as to why my DVD / VCD / CD player | wouldn't send track marks for audio CDs? First, you have to understand that there is no such thing as "sending a track mark" or "receiving a track mark." They are only implied and inferred. Track divisions are reproduced in digital transfers when the subcode indi- cates a change of source track number, a transition from out-of-track to in- track, or a change of sampling rate (and probably for a change of source me- dium code, but I've never had a way to isolate that from the other reasons to mark a new track and test it all alone), the recorder marks a new track. But there is no code or signal in S/PDIF that means "new track starts now." Most likely the DVD player is sending information from which track division locations can be inferred, but the CO2 is stripping it out. If you connected the coax out of your 709 to the coax in of your X5H without going through the CO2, you'd probably get proper track marks. That would be the first thing to try. If it works, then you know it's the CO2 and not the 709. I assure you that there is nothing inherent in format conversion that forces loss of that information: I've converted from optical to coax (and just thought of a way I could test going from coax to optical) with other devices and the track marks were reproduced properly. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sony vs. other decks
I think the sony decks have a huge advantage over the others. Even if you don't get the pc-decks you can buy WinRemote + AudioLib (see http://www.czechin.com/minidisc/) to title from your computer. Although some other decks although to use keyboards, tilting from a computer (if you have one) can be much better. You can download the info you need from a database and have it title you md. on 8/23/00 11:07 AM, Simon Gardner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're pretty good - if your MD recording is mainly from CDs and you don't need/want the extra frills than a standalone deck offers (fade in/out, extra inputs/outputs, pitch control, etc.) then a combo deck is a very good idea. The Sony MXD-D3 is a very good choice - reasonably priced (as little as 180ukp here), the MD part has many of the features that the decks do - time-shift recording, digital level control - plus it'll copy CDs at up to 4x quicker than normal. It also got a 5-star review from What Hifi? magazine, with them commenting that the CD part is as good as the budget Sony standalone players and that it makes excellent recordings to MD. If you can find a Sharp MD-R3 (the 3CD+MD deck) cheap, they're meant to be good as well (realtime recording though..). I've heard that several places in the US have been discounting them. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Rugged portable player needed
Hi, in your experience, what are the most rugged portable players currently available ? I'm asking this on behalf of a friend who wants to use it while practising BMX bike stunts (which is a stupid idea if you ask me, but hey, it's his player...) His last one was an AIWA portable recorder (F-65 I think) which dropped and got its lid dented, recently the drive mechanism died, according to him. So what I'm looking for is a player whose mechanic parts, short of being jumped on, can stand a whole lot of shaking. It would be even better it it isn't on the upper end of the price scale. Please answer, you can help keep a person from buying an MP3 player !! Regards, Alexander Dietrich -- ( Alexander Dietrich | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: CD quality compared to MD quality
"J. Coon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one customer that pays double the price to get his CDRs colored red because he KNOWS they sound better Wow, he sure is a fool. Everyone knows you need to use the GREEN MARKER. G LOL... good one. And don't forget to litter your listening room with those little black discs ;-) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Rugged portable player needed
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I have a Sharp 722. It's got a slot-loading mechanism, which seems like it would be less likely to get bent than a clamshell design. I've only dropped it once, but it didn't even skip. Laters, Brian On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 08:09:27PM +0200, Alexander Dietrich wrote: Hi, in your experience, what are the most rugged portable players currently available ? I'm asking this on behalf of a friend who wants to use it while practising BMX bike stunts (which is a stupid idea if you ask me, but hey, it's his player...) His last one was an AIWA portable recorder (F-65 I think) which dropped and got its lid dented, recently the drive mechanism died, according to him. So what I'm looking for is a player whose mechanic parts, short of being jumped on, can stand a whole lot of shaking. It would be even better it it isn't on the upper end of the price scale. Please answer, you can help keep a person from buying an MP3 player !! Regards, Alexander Dietrich -- ( Alexander Dietrich | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The 21st century begins on January 1, 2001. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: CD quality compared to MD quality
"Les" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not believe Mike is confused but sounds like someone is I am assuming you are referring to me ;-) ...and the last direct reply to my explanation "rested my case" for me whether you knew it or not, LOL How so? I never said ATRAC degraded anything people can hear You never said that, but it's true (at least for some people). Next time you are in a hi fi shop ask for a demo and compare the same cd on a high end Onkyo or HK unit with high end speakers... Most serious audio people would not consider Onkyo or HK to be "high end" -- there is little difference in audio quality between a good JVC CD player and a good HK CD player. The guys jumping on the volume issue and claiming they never listen to theirs "that loud..." By the way, that wouldn't be me... Consumer reports and others who do honest evaluations will claim there is zero sound difference in CD players. I believed this for a long time but now realize their tests were flawed because they were listening to average speakers which are not capable of producing the differences. Agreed. Consumer Reports is great for some things. But when it comes to "high-end" audio, they aren't very useful. They are good for people on very limited budgets trying to buy the "most reliable" unit out of a few inexpensive units that are all of pretty much equal quality. In any case, nothing should ever be noticed on an average system Completely true, and that's what I've been saying from the beginning ;-) ...and only those of us willing to spend the bucks on speakers alone that most would flinch at for an entire home theater including a large screen tv would (or should) even care about such minute differences. That's where I disagree. While the average consumer doesn't care, you don't have to spend obscene amounts of money just to get a "high-end" system that can reveal the differences. Anyone who thinks they can hear a difference ...or who actually can... would not believe anything other than what they hear anyway. No, the issue isn't that people *think* they can hear a difference. The issue is that there *is* an empirical difference, and some people with some systems *can* hear the difference. If you can't, more power to you -- you enjoy the sound more than those people ;-) ...never mind that very expensive test equipment can't measure a lot of what we "think" we hear Even the most expensive test equipment doesn't measure subtle differences well. The human ear is more sensitive than the most expensive "equipment" in the world. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Rugged portable player needed
Hi ! Ok, I personally have a friend who use its recorder player for activities like you friend used to do... He use it to do skateboard stunts... Anyway... It's its choice... Personally I use my unit to run, skate, rollerblade and bike (regular bike...not bmx things). i use also a sport carrying case that fit my body perfectly to hold my unit. my unit never skip, it's great ! i use a ms-722 sharp md recorder - the best unit ever for me... I used to sell them before, but now I only sell them when I receive special order from my customers... The MS-722 Sharp Recorder is a bit big, but it's a TANK... I never had any problem with this unit (I have try many and it's the only one I like...) Regards, Pierre Forest. Pierre Forest - Kheops Minidisc Owner http://www.kheopsminidisc.com http://www.buyitonline.com/kheopsminidisc email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alexander Dietrich Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:09 PM To: md-l Subject: MD: Rugged portable player needed Hi, in your experience, what are the most rugged portable players currently available ? I'm asking this on behalf of a friend who wants to use it while practising BMX bike stunts (which is a stupid idea if you ask me, but hey, it's his player...) His last one was an AIWA portable recorder (F-65 I think) which dropped and got its lid dented, recently the drive mechanism died, according to him. So what I'm looking for is a player whose mechanic parts, short of being jumped on, can stand a whole lot of shaking. It would be even better it it isn't on the upper end of the price scale. Please answer, you can help keep a person from buying an MP3 player !! Regards, Alexander Dietrich -- ( Alexander Dietrich | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: optical out is important???
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === Does having an optical out improve sound quality when going to a digital receiver? If so, how come so many of the minidisc decks don't have them? -Original Message- From: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 3:01 PM To: Yaniv S. Eyny Subject: stereo buying is tough... All these decisions are becoming very difficult. I have been tossing around the JVC and the Sony we saw last night. I like the Sony because it has the quad-speed dubbing and titling potential via one's computer, but I hate the fact that it has analog out. It seems that it defeats the purposed of having a good digital receiver and good speaker. It seems like an oversight on their part. The JVC is pretty well received by users, but it can't to high speed dubbing or entry by computer (but it has an optical out). It comes with a QWERTY remote so that all of the letters are there. Nonetheless, it's a tough decision. Do you think that I'm being too anal about wanting the digital out? === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: CD quality compared to MD quality
"J. Coon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one customer that pays double the price to get his CDRs colored red because he KNOWS they sound better Wow, he sure is a fool. Everyone knows you need to use the GREEN MARKER. G LOL... good one. And don't forget to litter your listening room with those little black discs ;-) You fools, the green marker improves playback when applied around the edge of CD's, whereas the red CDs provide superior S/N ratio (the noise being light) with the red discs as it comes through the red layer. It seems obvious to me that a combination of red discs and green marker pens will make as much of a difference to CD sound as erm, errr, Oh no, what have I been saying, I'm mad I need help etc (the same applies to other marker pen disc color believers). Heheheh. PrinceGaz. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
