MD: How do I know if my CDROM drive has a digital output? If it doesn't, do I need the Xitel Storm Platinum?
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === I'm very interested in buying the Xitel Storm Platinum sound card that = has got a digital output. Although I have a few MP3's on my computer, it = is more to record from CD to minidisc than from MP3 to minidisc. So I if = my CDROM drive doesn't have any digital output, there is no point buying = a digital out soundcard because it would be analogue recording. Am I = right ? If so, how do I know if my CDROM drive has a digital output ? = What do I need to check in my computer ?=20 another question : Is it better to record from CD to minidisc with a = computer that has a digital output or with a stereo that has a digital = output ?=20 Thanks=20 Cedric === MIME part removed : text/html; === _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Xitel MDport-DG1 or Soundcard?
Which one should i buy? - I like my SoundBlaster Live! with the LiveDrive... Staples.com has the SB Live! X-Gamer (same as the SB Live!, with some games bundled, has digital out, all that, doesn't come with the breakout box (LiveDrive)) for $79.95, and they have a $25 off coupon, so it comes to around $55 + tax (shipping is free, in the US at least). Not too bad. Use coupon code 90818. (or check the 'coupons' section of www.techbargains.com ) -- JT - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: When Oh When.....
I agree. I'm a journalist, and I love to use my 702 for interviews and note taking, but it's a pain to have to plug a mic in. Seems like in the past even the cheapest recording tape machines always had at least a cheap mono mic built-in. Surely it wouldn't take up much space, power or cost? What T-mic do you use? I fancy the Sony one, but at 90 UK pounds, it's not a cheap option. Cya Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 November 2000 15:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: When Oh When. When oh when will any of these MD manufacturers make a portable MD dictation style recorder with a built in mic??? I really think they could make a fortune..I can't stand the portable digital dictation units that are out nowthey sound like crapAn MD one with the titling feature and the sound quality would be so ideal...I currently use my Sharp 702 with a T-mic that is very small but is still clumsy especially when I'm on the run or in the carwhat do you think? Anyone with me on this one? Tom - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: How do I know if my CDROM drive has a digital output? If it doesn't, do I need the Xitel Storm Platinum?
From: "Cedric" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hiya, I'm very interested in buying the Xitel Storm Platinum sound card that = has got a digital output. A good games card, but I wouldn't recommend any Vortex 2 card for digital recording if you want perfect transfer. Although I have a few MP3's on my computer, it = is more to record from CD to minidisc than from MP3 to minidisc. So I if = my CDROM drive doesn't have any digital output, there is no point buying = a digital out soundcard because it would be analogue recording. Not necessarily... you can rip tracks to your hard drive using a suitable utility such as Exact Audio Copy (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/), and then edit as you like with something like CoolEdit 2K or appropriate before playing the compilation out through the soundcard. Am I right ? Well, it certainly makes more sense to save money if you don't need the card... :) If so, how do I know if my CDROM drive has a digital output ? = What do I need to check in my computer ?=20 There should be a little 2-pin molex connector on the back of the CD-ROM drive, next to the 4-pin analogue output. Also be aware that S/PDIF outputs on some CD-ROMs don't work even if the pins are there, and some also don't output valid S/PDIF until you start playing, meaning the first second or two of the first track can be missed... :( another question : Is it better to record from CD to minidisc with a = computer that has a digital output or with a stereo that has a digital = output ?=20 A suitable CD player, certainly. About 99% of consumer soundcards (YMF744, Vortex2 and EMU10K1 based ones, probably the FM801 as well) resample everything to 48KHz internally, since they are designed to be used with AC97 codecs. In the case of the Vortex 2, the SRC is pretty decent, IMHO, but it's still not perfect. YMF744 should be avoided at all costs. If anyone wants to see just how much of a joke the so-called SRC is, I can send spectral graphs... Even the Vortex 2, which offers a variable rate digital output, cannot do bit for bit accurate transfers judging by the bloke who tried playing some HDCD encoded stuff into his outboard DAC, only for it to keep dropping in and out of HDCD mode, signifying a corruption of the LSB... unfortunately, when something gets put through an SRC, you almost never get back exactly what you put in. As I've said before in the past, the ONLY cheap boards which can do 1:1 44.1KHz at 24-bit wordlength, record without SCMS, and also put down track marks for you are the C-Media 8338/8738 boards, which can be found for roughly $25 (or equivalent) if you can find a dealer who sells them. This exact same chipset is used by Midiman in their Dio2448, which costs far more just for the benefit of built-in optical I/O. If you're prepared to spend a little more, both the Midiman Dio2496 and Hoontech DSP24s are nice boards (both based on the "professional" Envy24 chipset), and can handle up to 24-bit 96KHz digital I/O. I have the DSP24, and it is a good piece of kit, but costs about 10 times as much as a CMI8738 board does, and doesn't support track marking either! - Tom. http://www.tbrowne.demon.co.uk - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Xitel MDport-DG1 or Soundcard?
JT wrote: Which one should i buy? Avoid the Xitel MDport-DG1. I tried it and it kept cutting in and out. One minute I could see the red light the next is was gone again. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-digest V2 #802
And isn't MP3 worthwhile because there are less and less quality songs that's worth our money, as far as mainstream pop/rock is concerned? Or fewer and fewer. Since less is only properly used when speaking of an amount that cannot be quantified. Example: less sugar in the bowl; but fewer Minidisc units on the shelves of your local Circuit City. __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-digest V2 #802
On 3 Nov 2000, at 10:28, las wrote: For quality MP3 digital songs, I think it is fair to pay a small royalty. snip If you [...] plan to copy your CDs to MD and then eliminate your CDs (e.g.. sell them on eBay), this might not be the system for you snip Does anyone else see a flaw here? -- JT No. Larry is saying that if you plan to make master copies of your CDs and sell them you will not necessaruly get the best quality recording from this unit. He is using this as an example, and has not inferred that he supports doing this. James __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Cloning question.
I frined sent me a disk that he was recording and as the battery was giving out, he replaced the battery without stopping the unit so the TOC could be written. He wants me to recover the recording. I have a Sony 520 deck and a SOny R30 recorder. I have some instructions that Dave Tamkin sent to the list for cloning with w 520. So my question is do I need to know if the disc with out hte toc is recorded in mono or stereo before I try to recover it? -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Xitel MDport-DG1 or Soundcard?
I use the Xitel AN1... It's not digital but at least, the sound is really good... MP3 is not digital after all !!! Regards, Pierre. --- ***Peter Forest*** www.kheopsminidisc.com www.kheopsinternational.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of las Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Xitel MDport-DG1 or Soundcard? JT wrote: Which one should i buy? Avoid the Xitel MDport-DG1. I tried it and it kept cutting in and out. One minute I could see the red light the next is was gone again. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: SP / LP playback table
For those interested, I've tested what happens when material recorded in one mode is played back in another after the TOC is played with. Non-LP units do not check the SP/LP bit and mistake LP2 for SP stereo and LP4 for SP mono: mode upon mode bits result on result on recording in TOC MDLP unit non-LP unit SP stereo SP stereo SP stereo SP stereo SP stereo SP mono half-speed SP mono half-speed SP mono SP stereo LP2 silent SP stereo SP stereo LP4 silent half-speed SP mono SP monoSP stereo double-speed SP mono double-speed SP mono SP monoSP mono SP monoSP mono SP monoLP2 silent double-speed SP mono SP monoLP4 silent SP mono LP2SP stereo silent silent LP2SP mono silent silent LP2LP2 LP2silent LP2LP4 nonstop squeal silent LP4SP stereo silent silent LP4SP mono silent silent LP4LP2 double-speed LP4 silent LP4LP4 LP4silent - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Music and Computer adapters
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === here is an idea if you have a digital sound card. digitally extract the sound files from the cd to wav format on your hd. then either play them through something like winamp (which if you play them all without pauses the track marks should be gone) or put them all into one big file with your favorite audio editor then record it digitally to you md? Just an idea. - Original Message - From: "Commun" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:08 PM Subject: Re: MD: Music and Computer adapters The auto track-mark feature avalaible on digital connections is very useful but there's a drawback sometimes. I bought the CD "The Corrs MTV Unplugged" and I decided to make a copy of it on MiniDisc. The first copy was digital. Nothing to say on sound quality but there was something unpleasant: due to the auto track-mark function: the songs ended abruptely. This was all the more unpleasant that this album is a live album so you hear the band and the audience between the songs. So I erased this copy and decided to make an analog copy with my Sony deck MDS-JE530. Thanks to ATRAC-R and the ability to set line input level, this copy is as good as the CD and maybe more pleasant to listen than the first (digital) copy whose sound level was a bit too high for me. Richard Lang a *crit : Why is an optical or digital coax interconnect between your CD player and MD recorder better than analog? Less noise on the line, and you eliminate the DAC-ADC-DAC conversions along the way. plus you get the track marks from the CD placed on your MD automatically. Richard Lang Solicitor Duncan Cotterill Christchurch, New Zealand email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: (++64)-3-379-2430 fax: (++64)-3-379-7097 http://www.duncancotterill.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Music and Computer adapters
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I've got a iMac 500 DV ES so no soundcard with digital input for me. So I decided to make an analog recording of "The Corrs unplugged". I played the CD on a Discman, i put an analog cable on the LINE OUT, plugged it to the analog input of my brand new Sony MDS-JE 530 (great MD deck) and started the recording process. Of course, cause it's a live concert, there was no gap between songs ( you can hear the band and the audience) and that's WHAT I wanted (digital recording refused me this possibility). Thanks to the possibility to set the analog recording level, I've been able to lower a little the sound level to fit my ears sensibility (Andrea is a small woman but her voice is quite powerful sometimes). Of course, I had a 64 minutes long track so I used my Sharp 722 to divide it. And you know what? This analog recording is excellent, as clear as if it was made with optical cable. Every day, I don't tire to listen "Little wing" on the little speakers plugged to the PHONES plug of my MD deck. Moreover, if someone needs a copy of this album, I can make it with digital output of my deck cause the master MD hasn't "SCMS-final" status. Matt Wall a *crit : === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === here is an idea if you have a digital sound card. digitally extract the sound files from the cd to wav format on your hd. then either play them through something like winamp (which if you play them all without pauses the track marks should be gone) or put them all into one big file with your favorite audio editor then record it digitally to you md? Just an idea. - Original Message - From: "Commun" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:08 PM Subject: Re: MD: Music and Computer adapters The auto track-mark feature avalaible on digital connections is very useful but there's a drawback sometimes. I bought the CD "The Corrs MTV Unplugged" and I decided to make a copy of it on MiniDisc. The first copy was digital. Nothing to say on sound quality but there was something unpleasant: due to the auto track-mark function: the songs ended abruptely. This was all the more unpleasant that this album is a live album so you hear the band and the audience between the songs. So I erased this copy and decided to make an analog copy with my Sony deck MDS-JE530. Thanks to ATRAC-R and the ability to set line input level, this copy is as good as the CD and maybe more pleasant to listen than the first (digital) copy whose sound level was a bit too high for me. Richard Lang a *crit : Why is an optical or digital coax interconnect between your CD player and MD recorder better than analog? Less noise on the line, and you eliminate the DAC-ADC-DAC conversions along the way. plus you get the track marks from the CD placed on your MD automatically. Richard Lang Solicitor Duncan Cotterill Christchurch, New Zealand email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: (++64)-3-379-2430 fax: (++64)-3-379-7097 http://www.duncancotterill.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-digest V2 #802
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === James Jarvie wrote: If you [...] plan to copy your CDs to MD and then eliminate your CDs (e.g.. sell them on eBay), this might not be the system for you Does anyone else see a flaw here? No. Larry is saying that if you plan to make master copies of your CDs and sell them you will not necessaruly get the best quality recording from this unit. He is using this as an example, and has not inferred that he supports doing this. James That's correct. I was just using that as an example. I was not advocating any particular practice. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]