RE: MD: Sony Black MD Storage Racks

2001-06-03 Thread james


I bought mine in a shop next door to Whitechapel underground station in
London.
I can't remember the name though: contact me directly if you want me to
search it out for you.

Regards,
james

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Subject: MD: Sony Black MD Storage Racks



Hi,

I've been told by my local Sony store today that Sony no longer sell the
black MD storage towers.

Does anyone know if this is true, or where I can purchase some?

I'm in the UK!

Regards,

Lee

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RE: MD: Sony MZ-R900DPC in stock at etronics.com

2001-06-03 Thread 5703171


Picture on etronics.com is definitely incorrect, depicted model is
MZ-R700DPC, but specs and price are about R900.

Does anyone know if etronics delivers to Europe or not?
Or maybe some other online retailers?

And next question bothering me is
which model of Xitel MD-Port is included in DPC bundle, DG1 or DG2?

Price difference is about 20-30$ for models with PC-link compares to
models without, but if I'll buy it separately it will cost me around
90$ (~60$ + 30$-delivery).

/D-Off


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Re: MD: Radio Station Just Got MD Equipment

2001-06-03 Thread Stuart Howlette



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  Here's a happy thing: this afternoon when I showed up
  at the radio station where I work part-time (WWFM -
  classical radio network), the chief engineer pointed
  out to me the newest piece of equipment - a Sony
  MDS-E12 MINIDISC deck. There's one in the on-air
  studio and there will soon be one in the production
  studio.
 

 Two of my daughters have worked on college radio stations.  Don't
 laugh.  Since college stations don't have the financial pressures of
 commercial stations, they are often very good.  You can often hear home
 grown music and music that a commercial station would never play because
 of fear that they would not attract a large enough audience.

 Traditionally commercials and public announcements are recorded on
 carts (cartridges)?  Is that what they are called?  Mini Discs offer
 the advantages of carts in that if you only record a specific audio clip
 on a mini disc that's what it will play each time it is inserted.

 It has the advantage of not having to be a continuous loop, like tape
 and is digital.  Mini Discs should have taken off big time at radio
 stations.  They, in my humble opinion, would have be an advantage over
 CDs.

 Since FM radio is cut off at 15,000Hz anyway, I doubt that anyone would
 notice if the stations was using CDs or an MD copy.  With their compact
 size and protective jackets, mini discs are far superior to CDs.

 The more I think about it, the more amazed I am that MDs did not replace
 CDs as the source of consumer music collections.  With the exception of
 compression, it seems to me that the mini disc has it over the CD in
 EVERY other area.

It doesn't have it over CD in every other area at all, in Europe it is still
just a cool toy for most people, where CD's are the norm, the only place I
know of it being bigger than CD is in Japan. And do you wanna know the
reason MD's didn't take over CD's much? CD's had a 10 year head start


 Lets not forget that you have been able to record on MDs from the day
 they were introduced.  Burning CDs is relatively recent compared to
 the MD.

And people dont want to wait for music to be recorded, thats why
pre-recorded music does so well, and probably one of MD's downfalls, little
pre-recorded support


 If someone were to make a comparison table of all types of recorded
 media, the mini disc would end up with the post pros.  Think about them
 compared to records, reel to reel, 8 track, cassette, HiFi video tape
 (should we even bother to include the DCC?). DATs and CDs.

 Larry

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Re: MD: Radio Station Just Got MD Equipment

2001-06-03 Thread PrinceGaz


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 It doesn't have it over CD in every other area at all, in Europe it is still
 just a cool toy for most people, where CD's are the norm, the only place I
 know of it being bigger than CD is in Japan. And do you wanna know the
 reason MD's didn't take over CD's much? CD's had a 10 year head start

I dont know which part of europe you are from but in the UK,
minidisc has a general acceptance now amongst most people to
the point that it is a mainstream recording format.  Be it
Dixons (a nationwide general electronics retailer), or more
specialist hi-fi stores, you will find minidisc at least on
a par with cassettes for shelf space.  Even in music stores
where two years ago they would have only CDs and cassettes,
I see increasing numbers of pre-recorded MD's available to
the point where it now about equals tapes.  And the fact
those same stores stock a variety of brands (yeah I know) of
blank minidiscs says something for their demand.

Many peeps I know had bought into minidisc before I met them,
I wonder which part of europe this is where minidisc is just
a cool toy.

PrinceGaz.


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Re: MD: Radio Station Just Got MD Equipment

2001-06-03 Thread PrinceGaz


 Many peeps I know had bought into minidisc before I met them,
 I wonder which part of europe this is where minidisc is just
 a cool toy.
 PrinceGaz.

I'd just like to add to what I said previously that roughly half
the peeps I know own only a minidisc player, and have chosen the
format for their portable music because there is finally a decent
choice of pre-recs available now, and it is a lot more convenient
for them than carrying around a CD player.

PrinceGaz.


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MD: busted

2001-06-03 Thread Robert J. Lynn Jr.


Is MD-L busted?
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Claiming that video-games affects kids is ridiculous. If that was the
point, then everyone who played Pac-man in the late 80s would be running
around a dark room eating pills to monotonous music. - Swedish
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Re: MD: busted

2001-06-03 Thread Robert J. Lynn Jr.




Guess not. Must just be real slow for the MD community lately
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Re: MD: md-l-digest V3 #36

2001-06-03 Thread Michael Graves


Well, we're approaching a technically accurate description of things,
but we're not there yet. Please allow me to fill in some gaps.

DDS-2 and -3 are both rotory head recording schemes not unlike common
VCRs. That said what we need concern ourselves with is the linear speed
of the head movement cross the tape, not the running speed of the tape
past the head drum which is a secondary issue. The smaller the head gap
and higher the rotational speed of the head drum the more tracks that
the heads can put down on a given inch of tape. This then permits
recording a greater number of bits on that same amount of tape, which
we generally refer to as packing density...ie. the amount of data per
sq cm of magnetic material.

The linear tape speed employed in DDS-2 and -3 are pretty close I would
guess. Smaller head gaps in the higher capacity format being the key to
writing more tracks (more bits) onto each inch of tape.

Early digital audio at the studio production level added some other
issues. There was for a time non-rotory head multi-track audio
recorders which employed a head stack with a large number of head gaps,
each writing a bit such that the data was written to tape in a parallel
fashion. As I recall The SONY PCM3324 was such a deck although Otari
was a major promoter of the format as well. Tape interchange was a bit
issue with these at first. Often a tape recorded on one machine could
not be played back on another.

The early PCM decks to which someone refered were in fact Sony Betamax
inductrial VCRs with a special PCM encoding unit that converted
analogue audio to PCM data the coded it for recording as a vide signal.
These were widely used to master classical recording when digital audio
was in its infancy. To my ear they sounded harsh.

Some time later Alesis and a couple of other companies introduced
multi-track digital audio recorders based upon VCR transports. However
these did not code the audio signals into a video comaptible stream,
they wrote data to the rotory head recording mechanism in their own
format. These units were mostly 8 track I believe.

Michael Graves


On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 06:33:21 +0100 (BST), md-l-digest wrote:

Date: 03 Jun 2001 00:56:03 -0400
From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MD: DCC?

* Francisco J. Huerta [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Sat, 02 Jun 2001
| So, how about explaining why he is wrong? I mean, it's very easy to say no,
| nah, ni, but it is a bit more complex to say why. I know the reasons, but I
| would definitely leave the explaining to an expert.

Square waves taking more space.  Just plain BS.  The shape of a wave has no
bearing whatsoever on how much space is required to store it.

DDS-2 and DDS-3 (two of the DAT data standards) have nearly identically
length tapes (120m vs. 125m), and have the same linear speed over the
heads.  DDS-3 has three times the storage capacity as DDS-2.  Clearly,
speed is not a contributing factor to data density.

Doesn't require an expert to show that Jacob has a lot of completely bogus
information.
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 06:36:17 +0100
From: PrinceGaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MD: DCC?

But it sounds good doesn't it.  And on an oscilloscope, a 1v pk-to-pk
square wave will indeed on average be using up more of the available
space than the same pk-to-pk sine wave.  Of course if we were to carry
that analogy through to its logical conclusion, recording louder music
ought to require a greater area of tape to record on also, which we all
know it doesnt :o)

But I bet I could convince 9 out of 10 peeps by the usual baffle them
with bullsh!t approach :o)

PrinceGaz. -- An ye harm none, do what ye will


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Re: MD: md-l-digest V3 #36

2001-06-03 Thread las


Michael Graves wrote:

 The early PCM decks to which someone refered were in fact Sony Betamax
 inductrial VCRs with a special PCM encoding unit that converted
 analogue audio to PCM data the coded it for recording as a vide signal.
 These were widely used to master classical recording when digital audio
 was in its infancy. To my ear they sounded harsh.


Aren't 8mm video tapes (I believe that they use Hi 8 tapes) also a common standard
in professional studios?

Also, isn't the final stereo mix for an audio recording almost always stored on
DAT?

Actually the blank DAT tapes used are data grade and are certified as 100% error
free (if you can believe that such a thing exists.

When my oldest daughter was graduating from college, she wanted to send out demo
tapes to recording studios (she was applying for in internship).  At first we were
looking for professional grade compact cassettes.

Several people on the list that are in the business including Len Moskowitz from
Core Sound told me that if we didn't use DATs they would get thrown in the
garbage.  I also first learned about Art's Cassette Castle from Len when I asked
for a source of reasonably priced blank DATs

We were sending out 30 copies, so it could have gotten costly.  Art had single pass
data grade (HP) DATs.  At first i was  concerned that there was a difference and
with my background in MD was afraid that data and music DATs were not compatible.

Fortunately it turned out that not only were DATA grade DATs compatible, they were
what professional studios used.

I guess the so called music grade DATs are for non professional use.

Larry

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