Re: MD: USB-cable in the Sony MZ-Rx00PC's
From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Timothy Stockman [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 07 Jun 2001 | In fact, that information *is* on the the S/PDIF digital audio signal | coming from the digital output of a CD player (assuming the disc is | encoded with CD text). All of the subchannel bits except P are sent | via the usr bits of the S/PDIF stream. I don't know of any computer | hardware that uses the user bits, though. Specifically, the R through W subcode channels, which had been previously reserved for future use. All subcode channel bits can be sent. Hypothetically. In practice this is not the case. If it were then Sony's joint text players and recorders would not need a special cable to carry the information. Correct. Most of Sony's CD control chips datasheets are available on the web. If you read any one of them (I've read them all, looking for precisely this info) you will see that none of them include the subchannels in their SPDIF output. Ironic, since they co-authored the standard. Or Moronic... -- Howard Chu Chief Architect, Symas Corp. Director, Highland Sun http://www.symas.com http://highlandsun.com/hyc - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: . R700 in URB magazine
Hello- The R700 is featured in the gadgets pages of the current issue of URB (American techno magazine). There's some other neat stuff also for all you gadget freaks. This is the current issue with Digweed on the cover. BTW, is it unusual to own and/or want multiple MD players and recorders? I think I've gone MD crazy. //future-shock/ http://www.wam.umd.edu/~payvand [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: MZR700 warranty?
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === You should buy the warranty. I have a JE440 and E60 and I have BB warranties on both. I don't abuse electronics, but you *know* I don't have any concerns when I take the E60 outside. If it breaks, they'll fix it. It's worth the $10/year. I was in the electronics sales business for a while (Ward's and BB) and all of my coworkers also bought extended warranties when they bought stuff. I recently bought the R50 from someone on ebay. It's in great condition, but you know I'm not going to have it laying around without its sack like I do the E60. I think Best Buy has changed their policy though so go and get it quickly before it's too late. In the past they gave 30 days from date of sale to buy the extended warranty but I think that's changed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luis Dodero Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: MZR700 warranty? Hi all, I'm back after a really long time...a few years ago I bought a grey market Kenwood DMC-G7R and about a month later it broke on me -sniff- so I stepped out of the world of Minidisc until now! I've got me an MZR-700 which I'm extremely impressed with. Anyway, my question is, should I have gotten a Best Buy extended warranty with it? It's 39 bucks for 4 years...and after my luck with my Kenwood...are the Sony's reliable? I remember the trusty old MZR 3's and MZR 30's, but I don't know about any of the curent units (this one's made in Malaysia). Thanks! -Luis - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: CD-Text titles over S/PDIF (was: USB-cable in the Sony MZ-Rx00PC's)
Timothy Stockman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I understand the naming of the tracks on the MD will be easier No, it won't, since none of that information is carried on the PCM signal. In fact, that information *is* on the the S/PDIF digital audio signal coming from the digital output of a CD player (assuming the disc is encoded with CD text). All of the subchannel bits except P are sent via the usr bits of the S/PDIF stream. I don't know of any computer hardware that uses the user bits, though. Actually the Townshend DATLink (TOSlink-SCSI adapter) will let you get or set all 32 bits of every S/PDIF sample. Not likely that many folks have such an expensive device however (see: http://www.tc.com/). Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Specifically, the R through W subcode channels, which had been previously reserved for future use. All subcode channel bits can be sent. Hypothetically. In practice this is not the case. If it were then Sony's joint text players and recorders would not need a special cable to carry the information. Yes, but Sony could have chosen their double-cable Joint-Text approach (read: hack) for other reasons (they would have to be good ones, I'll grant you). It would really be great if you two [always meticulous contributors] could figure out whether the title bits are sent via S/PDIF by any consumer CD player and provide a reference for it. I somehow don't think any such equipment does that, but I'd love to be proved wrong. Rick - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 23:22:36 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I'm assuming that Mike is from the US because he used Hot mail). ??? I'm just curious why you said that? I've got a hotmail account (2 actually), and am in the UK. Can't say as I've come across any of the major web-based email providers that aren't international. And I think the guy you're referring to is in Canada - IIRC his message referred to this. Neil ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
(I'm assuming that Mike is from the US because he used Hot mail). From: Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??? I'm just curious why you said that? I've got a hotmail account (2 actually), and am in the UK. Can't say as I've come across any of the major web-based email providers that aren't international. I may well be flamed for saying this, but it's been coming some time... Hehe, that also occured to me. I have a hotmail account (which is rarely used, it may even have lapsed by now) and am from the UK. Having said that, given the number of posts on this list along the lines of MD is dying because [insert US electronics store] are no longer stocking them / are reducing their range or no one I know but me has MD that are posted here suggests rather a lot of US peeps should open their eyes to the fact that they are not actually the center of the universe :o) Oh, and I was rather amused and saddened when I read in Infobeat daily news this morning that the Labor (sic) Party had won our general election here in the UK. They mentioned the Labor Party several times in the report. I wasn't saddened by their winning however. subliminal If so many US peeps who actively participate in the global village that is the internet think like that, you have to be somewhat worried about what non-connected peeps think. /subliminal ___ ___ | || | | o |Gaz Bell - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| o | | || | | o | _ _ | o | | | | __ \ _ _ _ / ___| _ | | | o | | |__| )| __)(_)| _ \| __)| _ \ | | _ ( \|__ / | o | | | | ___/ | / | || | | || | | |_| | | | \ |/ _ | / _/ | | | o | | | | | | || | | || |__ | / | |_| || |_| |/ /__ | o | | | |_| |_| |_||_| |_||)|_) \_/|_||| | | | o || o | | || | | o | ICQ: 36892193 http://www.princegaz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk | o | | || | | o | An ye harm none, do what ye will | o | |___||___| - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Minidics in South Africa
Gerard, Hi agree wholeheartedly ! I'm a Sotuh African as well, and bouight my Sony MZ-R55, last year in Italy rather than in South Africa for the sole purpose that it cost me half the price!! MD in South Africa is really EXPENSIVE! for example blank Sony Color MD's at R37, insane ! ciao, Sean. -: Sean Snyders -: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cs.sun.ac.za/~snyders -: Computer Science Departmentsecretary: +27-21-808-4232 -: University of Stellenbosch voice: +27-21-808-4393 -: South Africa fax: +27-21-808-4416 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Minidiscs
Here is South Africa, we are also quite quick to adapt new technologies, and no, we don't have elephants roaming in the streets. Our cell phone networks are some of the best, for instance. I got into minidiscs two years ago, Yeah, for some reason it's a popular misconception that Canada is a country built in a glacier, or that we're in a perpetual state of winter. :) Of course if you go north enough you'd be correct. :) But the major cities are just that. Major cities. No igloos, no dogsleds, and we have as normal seasons as the US has. :) before mp3 players got real big. Portable minidisc recorders were then going for about R3500 (R8 to the us dollar). Then the prices dropped quite a bit. I paid the same for my recorder as you would in the UK. Now suddenly the prices have rocketed to R4500 for a Sony Mz-R900 (that is like $562), Yeah, my MZ-R900 cost me about $550 CAN, but I also managed to talk the guy down from like 575. It's not KILLING the market, but I do think it's making it less appealing to people who want to get in on it and don't have that much to spend. After all, a half a grand is a lot of money to spend on a recording/playback device. (money well spent in my opinion, but that's just me :) ). --- Mike Lastucka, B. Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sites.netscape.net/element5/ 2048 bit DH 0x16DC15CD _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: CD-Text titles over S/PDIF (was: USB-cable in the Sony MZ-Rx00PC's)
* Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 08 Jun 2001 | Yes, but Sony could have chosen their double-cable Joint-Text approach | (read: hack) for other reasons (they would have to be good ones, I'll | grant you). I can think of a good one: the R through W subcode channels on CD-DA are not carried by S/PDIF in practical applications. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Warning: pregnant women, the elderly, and Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ children under 10 should avoid prolonged PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ exposure to Happy Fun Ball. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MZR700 warranty?
I agree I bought a MD-700DPC and got the warenty my last MD unit died because of head problems that sony wanted $150 US to fix, considering i could have bought a more modern unit(this thing was ancient and died after 3 years) for that much i opted to not do it then. anyways buy the warenty and abuse it for all its worth(free cleanings weekly!) ;) marc On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 01:05:22AM -0400, Danny-K wrote: You should buy the warranty. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
ARE TOO! ;) On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 01:11:10PM +0100, PrinceGaz wrote: should open their eyes to the fact that they are not actually the center of the universe :o) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
What? Do you mean there is an Internet outside the US ((Just kidding!!!)) - Original Message - From: PrinceGaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:11 AM Subject: Re: MD: Minidiscs (I'm assuming that Mike is from the US because he used Hot mail). From: Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??? I'm just curious why you said that? I've got a hotmail account (2 actually), and am in the UK. Can't say as I've come across any of the major web-based email providers that aren't international. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Minidiscs
An Internet? I wasn't aware there was a *world* outside the US... ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Francisco J. Huerta Sent: 08 June 2001 16:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Minidiscs What? Do you mean there is an Internet outside the US ((Just kidding!!!)) - Original Message - From: PrinceGaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:11 AM Subject: Re: MD: Minidiscs (I'm assuming that Mike is from the US because he used Hot mail). From: Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??? I'm just curious why you said that? I've got a hotmail account (2 actually), and am in the UK. Can't say as I've come across any of the major web-based email providers that aren't international. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
Neil wrote: I'm just curious why you said that? I thought that Hot mail was only available in the US. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
PrinceGaz wrote: Hehe, that also occured to me. I have a hotmail account (which is rarely used, it may even have lapsed by now) and am from the UK. Having said that, given the number of posts on this list along the lines of MD is dying because [insert US electronics store] are no longer stocking them / are reducing their range or no one I know but me has MD that are posted here suggests rather a lot of US peeps should open their eyes to the fact that they are not actually the center of the universe :o) You guys just can't ever get over the fact that a bunch of rag tag boys who were dirty, crude, most not well educated and certainly not nearly as well as trained as the British militia, managed to actually beat you :). If you lived a little in the past, your thinking would be that Britain was the center of the universe and it was! The sun never set on the British Empire was not just a saying, it was a fact. You have to remember that until 60 years ago this December, the US maintained an isolationist policy. There was a terrible backlash from many Americans who felt that we should have never gotten involved in W.W.I and were insistent that we mind our own business when it came to W.W.II. So it is all timing. Give us our 15 minutes of fame. It's just bad timing on your part that you didn't live in the time period where Britain ruled the world. I'm sure in another 100 years or so it will be some other country that dominates the world. The US's strong hold grows weaker all of the time. I'm really not sure that the average person from any country is truly ready to accept the concept of a global village. We give it a lot of lip service, but if you happen to be one of those individuals that is doing well in your particular country, I'm sure you feel it is better than other countries. And yes I know that in spite of what Hollywood constant portrays England as, Ben Afleck did not save your ass. The Royal Air Force was able to hold off Germans on their own before we ever entered the war. Churchill was an amazing force and that insane little house painter couldn't shine his shoes let alone take over his country. The only reason that I made the assumption was that I thought Hot mail was only available in the US and also that I am used to seeing endings like .uk or .ca and .au after countries other than the US. I'm not sure why the US is not required to have a country designation in their URLs? Cheers, Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
Adam Queripel wrote: An Internet? I wasn't aware there was a *world* outside the US... ;) Hey, who's fault is it if the greatest militia in the world was not able to defeat a bunch of 14 year olds wearing rags who couldn't even speaks the Kings English correctly :). - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
Well. All this because a new guy to the list dared to post a message from Hotmail. :) --- Mike Lastucka, B. Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sites.netscape.net/element5/ 2048 bit DH 0x16DC15CD _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
