MD: . DAT recorder question

2001-08-18 Thread Danny-K


Hello-

I remember someone posting a DAT list address here a while back but I didn't
keep it.

I was hoping someone could help me, or point me to a good resource.

I'm trying to buy a portable DAT recorder, but most are out of my price
range.  I've found one that is, but I wanted to see if it's worth getting.
It's made by AIWA, and the model number is HD-S100.  It's used from ebay.
And I'm trying to see if it's a decent unit.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

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MD: too much of a god thing: a drawback of MDLP

2001-08-18 Thread David W. Tamkin


Dang.

It's nice to put loads of music and lots of tracks onto a single MD.  But
when it's a compilation and each track needs to be noted with song title and
artist (in contrast to copying an album or several by one artist, where the
performer need be named once in the disc title and not on every track),
there isn't enough titling space!  The 255 seven-character cells just don't
cover it.

Tonight I was titling a disc of fifty-five LP tracks (some LP2, some LP4)
and made it to about the fortieth track before running out of title space,
and that was without having yet titled the disc itself.  I had to go back
and do some egregious abbreviating and to continue the practice on the
remaining tracks.  The results are adequate as reminders to me but would be
pretty uninformative to anyone else.

David

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Re: MD: too much of a good thing: a drawback of MDLP

2001-08-18 Thread Richard Rudie


 It's nice to put loads of music and lots of tracks onto a single MD.  
But
 ... there isn't enough titling space!  The 255 seven-character cells 
just don't
cover it.

I ran into the same problem, putting three soundtracks to the Dracula/
Castlevania games on one MD. It ended up being 104 tracks. But I 
thought, 1700 characters, that sounds like plenty! I ran out of titling 
room halfway through the second disc's-worth. Of course, tracks with 
titles like Through the Gate, Into the World of Heaven don't help 
matters much.
Does a group mode disc expand the titling room? Probably not, I'd 
guess. But you'd need space for the group titles, too, making the 
available space that much less.

I later re-recorded each onto its own MD, to have them at maximum 
quality---in theory at least---and to have titling room. And they're 
all (six total so far) exclusively on gold Sony 80s, too, for the fun 
of it.
Fitting the just-under-90-minute Dracula X onto the 80-minute MD was 
a screwy job, trying out different combinations of SP and LP2. 
Afterward I wrote a program to help me do it again later, and if 
anyone's interested I'll make it available. It's for Windows, but I'm 
also working on a BeOS version, not that anyone probably cares about 
that.


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Re: MD: too much of a god thing: a drawback of MDLP

2001-08-18 Thread PrinceGaz


From: David W. Tamkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 It's nice to put loads of music and lots of tracks onto a single MD.  But
 when it's a compilation and each track needs to be noted with song title
and
 artist (in contrast to copying an album or several by one artist, where
the
 performer need be named once in the disc title and not on every track),
 there isn't enough titling space!  The 255 seven-character cells just
don't
 cover it.

 Tonight I was titling a disc of fifty-five LP tracks (some LP2, some LP4)
 and made it to about the fortieth track before running out of title space,
 and that was without having yet titled the disc itself.  I had to go back

I suppose this is another problem of the MD standard not being
designed with future enhancements in mind.  The 2K UTOC probably
seemed quite adequate for most peoples uses, enough for 20 tracks
of about 80 characters.

Given they have over 160megs to play with it would be easy to say
the UTOC should have been 4K or 8K, maybe 64K even, but the only
real solution would be a new MD formatting standard without the
limitations of the existing one.

I've really enjoyed the discussions about ATRAC vs MP3, and MD vs
other media, but I can't help feeling something is fundamentally
wrong when the new LP2/LP4 ATRAC has to be encoded onto MD such
that nearly 10% of the available capacity is thrown away just to
ensure the track's title is semi-readable in an older unit.

I know too many formats are a bad thing, but as pre-recorded MD
are almost always going to be SP, it should be reasonable to
assume that anyone with an LP formatted MD would know that it is
such and not stick it in any old MD unit, just like we do not
normally play CD-ROMs or other non-audio CDs in a standard CD
player.

PrinceGaz. -- An it harm none, do what thou wilt

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