Re: MD: The MP3 versus MD stuff - a factual comparidon
From what I remember reading, yeah, they were hacked 80s, but they were gonna try to get Hi-Space to make some... guess not :( -Rob - Original Message - From: David W. Tamkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 1:51 PM Subject: Re: MD: The MP3 versus MD stuff - a factual comparidon Robert Lynn followed up that when the phrase the audiophile MP3 community appeared in his previous post, | That's a quote from the article at the URL I gave. Not from me at all. Thank you for explaining. That wasn't clear before. | All MDs hold 60, 74, or 80 (and I've seen 85s on the minidisc.org site). The 85s ... 86m28s at the optimum ... are actually hacked 80s. Or are there now 85m MDs manufactured as such? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: The MP3 versus MD stuff - a factual comparidon
A good example of the kind of freedom left to developers is the fact that the MP3 standard does not specify exactly how to treat the upper end of the spectrum, above 16kHz. Since human auditory perception begins to diminish greatly (with age and exposure to loud volumes) between 16kHz and 20kHz, some developers have historically chosen to simply chop off frequencies above 16kHz, which can be beneficial at low bitrates, since it leaves more bits available for encoding more audible frequencies. Xing, for example, did this with the first versions of their very fast codec. Later, they rewrote their codec to handle frequencies up to 20kHz (probably at the behest of the audiophile MP3 community). ^- http://www.mp3-converter.com/mp3codec/implementation.htm I'm pretty sure LAME stays as 16kHz until 192Kb/sec. Also, the Fraunhofer codec(the STANDARD) is Joint Stereo up to 192Kb/sec. I can't find a link to prove that, so anyone who has it can see it. Joint Stereo means there aren't two separate channels, one combined. MiniDisc is always separate stereo in SP mode. Additionally, I see multiple times on the minidisc.org site havign experts say that ATRAC is CD quality. I can't seem to find anyone saying that about MP3 except for people who hawk it. 128Kb/sec is standard for MP3. 212Kb/sec is standard for ATRAC. and hey - at least MD's track naming scheme doesn't have two versions (ID3v1 and ID3v2)! -Rob -- PGP Mail would be preferred! Encrypt all traffic if possible 0xAF6799FF DH/DSS 0x293A078B RSA Legacy (Old PGP) 0x125AFC1D RSA New - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The MP3 versus MD stuff - a factual comparidon
Rob, when you call your post a factual compilation, you're holding yourself to an exacting standard. | MiniDisc is always separate stereo in SP mode. Yeah. When its in stereo, it is ALWAYS separate, if its SP. | 212Kb/sec is standard for ATRAC. I trust that you just mistyped the number and are not calling something ATRAC never does its standard. Typo. The audiophile MP3 community? That's a juxtaposition I never expected. Of those who call themselves audiophiles, many reject digital audio outright; some demand 96-kHz sampling and 24-bit samples; and after a couple other subgroups we get to the laxest of them, who grudgingly tolerate 1.4112-Mbps CDs. That's a quote from the article at the URL I gave. Not from me at all. Basically, my point was that MD is one set standard. MP3 is many different standards. SP MD is always 292Kb/sec (except in mono), MP3 is not. MP3 is joint all the way up to 192 on the Fraunhofer STANDARD codec. Also, I can buy a MiniDisc anywhere, any time and basically rest assured that it will work in my MD player (unless it's an MD-Date, but oh well). With MP3 I can't go to a store and say I need memory for my MP3 player!, Also, 256Kb/sec MP3 is what is said to be equivalent to ATRAC in this discussion (At least I can tell the difference between a CD transferred optically and the same CD MP3 compressed), hence basically halving what the advertised minute capacity of an MP3 player is. In other words, if it says 120 minutes on this MP3 player, you'll get 60. And another hour will cost you $100 more! All MDs hold 60, 74, or 80 (and I've seen 85s on the minidisc.org site). The only reason you'll get less is if the disk becomes very fragmented, or you make a few very short tracks (or damage, but hey). Quality varies greatly between MP3 encoders. The same applies for MD, but its affect is not as great. They're both compression algorithms. Forgoing all the MD SOUNDS BETTER THAN ME 1337 MP3z! argument, MD is cheaper in the long run: MD player: $200 10 hours of MD: $15.50 (rough!) MP3 Player: $99 10 hours of Compact Flash storing 256Kb/sec MP3s: $580 *cough* -Rob - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sound Blaster Live Platinum
i do think that it ignores it -Rob - Original Message - From: Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: MD: Sound Blaster Live Platinum EL SNIPO - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Freezing computer from Sb Live!
Whats up with this? I know ita off topic. I have Windows 2000 SP2, and whenever I install the SB Live! Platinum 5.1+, my computer freezes. What gives? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Freezing computer from Sb Live!
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Actually, I figured it out SB Live! Wanted IRQ5. So did USB. Neither would give in and Windows wouldnt change em. End of story. I killed USB SB Live! lived. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: Re: MD: Freezing computer from Sb Live! Whats up with this? I know ita off topic. I have Windows 2000 SP2, and whenever I install the SB Live! Platinum 5.1+, my computer freezes. What gives? Did you just buy the SB Live? If so, I'd suggest you return it and get a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz or some other card. There seem to be random issues with the SB Live and Win2k... some people have no problems, others (like you) get lockups. If you can't/don't want to return it, I would recommend NOT installing Liveware (just install the driver) HTH, JT - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD FAQ
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Might I suggest the Faq-O-Matic? http://faqomatic.sourceforge.net/fom-serve/cache/1.html - Original Message - From: Stuart Howlette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 2:26 PM Subject: Re: MD: MD FAQ I've got an idea, why doesn't EVERYONE on this list group together, and create the most comprehensive MD FAQ in existence? Then, advertise it as the main FAQ on minidisc.org, and also put it as a link when subscribing to this list? -- Stuart Howlette There are many questions in life, but is the right answer only correct because the majority believe in it? [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liquid2k.com/stuh84/ http://www.liquid2k.com/stuh84/personal/ -- - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Anti shock
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Yes, and no. My MD-MS722 buffers 40sec of data, stops, but will keep trying to read if it gets shaky. It's to conserve battery life, and you can turn it off on the Sharps (P Save Mode OFF in Setup) - Original Message - From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:33 PM Subject: Re: MD: Anti shock * Luis Dodero [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 12 Jun 2001 | Ok, well I know this has been discussed in the past, but it's never been | clear to me. I have an MZR-700 with G-shock (40 seconds?) of Anti | shock. No, you have an MZ-R700 with G-Protection. G-Protection is a new implementation of anti-skip buffering that is apparantly much beter than the previous G-Shock scheme. | Anyway, while playing, the unit stops spinning the disc, presumably to save | power, and spins up again. My question is, when it stops spinning the disc, | is it reading off the buffer memory? If so, wouldn't that drop the 40 second | rate? No, that is the 40 second buffer. The mechanism reads 40 seconds worth of data and plays from that. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ of skin. PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: length of a '74' MD
They cant sell it as 75minute because its not - its 74 minutes 57 seconds - those 3 seconds count for a lot. - Original Message - From: Christoph Hertel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: MD: length of a '74' MD Hello, I'm just playing around with my new MD recorder and those funny MDs themselves. I just noticed that I can record 74:57 minutes on a MD marked with '74'. I wonder why the people selling those MDs just don't say it's 75 min MD? Or does the length decrease with the number of track marks? Or have I just the wrong problems? Christoph - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
Perhaps. But ATRAC is a Dolby patent (According to the back of my MD-MS722 - Patents last 25 years. Somehow, I doubt it tho - MD could undergo a facelift - MP3 support in ADDITION to ATRAC. -Rob - Original Message - From: Shawn Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: Re: MD: Minidiscs [Snip] Maybe there will be a rebirth of MD equipment when Sony's license expires. I don't know if it's true, but I read somewhere that after 10-years, audio format licenses expire and then companies don't have to pay license fees anymore. I read that it was the reason why CD didn't really start gaining in popularity at a high rate until 10-years after its introduction in '81 or '82. True, or not? Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Whats the patent number? My MD-MS722 doesnt say. - Original Message - From: Francisco J. Huerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: MD: Minidiscs Didn't Sony invent ATRAC, violating some Dolby compression patents? Then, Sony handled the ATRAC license to Dolby, or something like that, in order to avoid litigation. My players all say in a small sticker that the technology is licensed from Dolby Labs, and have a patent number in them. Francisco. Patents last for 17 years unless the holder is granted an extension. Sony invented ATRAC and has made the improvements. I have never heard anything about Dolby having anything to do with ATRAC. But there are 2 ATRACS. Sony's and Sharp's. It's possible that Sharp's ATRAC was developed by Dolby. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Minidiscs
erp. It did, and it was a patent for the loading deck. weird patent, eh? - Original Message - From: Robert J. Lynn Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 12:52 AM Subject: Re: MD: Minidiscs Whats the patent number? My MD-MS722 doesnt say. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sharp 722 EEPROM Settings / Service Manual
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Looks like these'll work. http://www.minidisc.org/sharp_mdms701_settings.html EEPROM Data List and TEST Mode Settings for Sharp MD-MT821, MD-MS721 and MD-MS701 - Original Message - From: Ian Horsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:10 AM Subject: MD: Sharp 722 EEPROM Settings / Service Manual ** Sorry, Outhouse Distress didn't like me changing it into plain text the first time around.. ** Hi Does anyone know where I can find the EEPROM settings for a Sharp 722, or could anyone tell me if they are the same as the Sharp 701/702? Failing that, does anyone know where I can find a copy of the service manual for the 722? Cheers Ian _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: DCC?
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Nah, it'll probably just sound like white noise, right? -Rob - Original Message - From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:38 AM Subject: Re: MD: DCC? * Robert J. Lynn Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 07 Jun 2001 | A. Maybe the bits are stored on a carrier wave? Like a T1, per se. This would require modulation, like the old C64 and Apple ][ tapes. And yes, doing so would require some very high frequency square waves. Maybe DCC does that, but DAT certainly doesn't because it is an inefficient storage method. | B. Maybe the bits arent recorded as waves. Just magnetic blips. Whereas this is what is really happening. The blips can be played as an audible signal, but chances are you'll break something if you do that (like your speakers or ears). -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete. Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: DCC?
here's a thought - I dont know, tho A. Maybe the bits are stored on a carrier wave? Like a T1, per se. B. Maybe the bits arent recorded as waves. Just magnetic blips. - Original Message - From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: Re: MD: DCC? * Peter Jaques [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 06 Jun 2001 | i'm not saying that PCM represents an audio frequency of 1411200Hz, i'm | saying that in order to represent 22.05kHz, the analog square wave put on | tape is 1411200Hz. the square wave is the bits themselves. You are mistaken if you believe that there is a 1,411,200Hz square wave stored on a DAT. All that is there is ones and zeros, which do form a square wave if you treated it as something audible (which it isn't) with an effective frequency some twice that (~2,862,311.5Hz if I did the math right). -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ returned to its special container and PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ kept under refrigeration. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: busted
Is MD-L busted? -Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brainbench certified PC Technician, Linux Admin, and Win98 user. Claiming that video-games affects kids is ridiculous. If that was the point, then everyone who played Pac-man in the late 80s would be running around a dark room eating pills to monotonous music. - Swedish culture-journalist Staffan Blomsjø in newspaper Aftonbladet - - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: busted
Guess not. Must just be real slow for the MD community lately :-/ - Original Message - From: Robert J. Lynn Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 3:32 PM Subject: MD: busted Is MD-L busted? -Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brainbench certified PC Technician, Linux Admin, and Win98 user. Claiming that video-games affects kids is ridiculous. If that was the point, then everyone who played Pac-man in the late 80s would be running around a dark room eating pills to monotonous music. - Swedish culture-journalist Staffan Blomsjø in newspaper Aftonbladet - - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: lip-12 specs and sources
The higher the mAH the better. Thats how long the battery lasts. A 1500mAH battery can push 3.6V at 1500mA for one hour. A 800mAH battery can push 3.6v at 800mA for one hour. They basically go down that way too, eg, a 800mA (Li-Ion) battery will push 3.6v at 400mA for 2 hours. -Rob - Original Message - From: Gregory Bogert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:19 PM Subject: MD: lip-12 specs and sources Dear listers, The rechargeable battery in my MZ-R30 doesn't recharge any more. I have been searching for a replacement and I'm finding it very confusing. The battery in my md states 3.6V/1200mAH The replacements I managed to find states 3.6V/800mAH or in one case; Replace Sony LIP-12 Li-ion, 3.6V. 1550mAh Does the different mAH numbers affect performance? And does anyone have suggestions for the best place to purchace the batteries. Thank you for all your help. Greg Bogert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Unmatching impedance
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I dunno. The box (which is gone now) says 58ohms - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 5:59 AM Subject: Re: MD: Unmatching impedance On Sun, 13 May 2001, Jim Coon wrote: Hi, Going lower than recommended can damage equipment. Higher impedance generally won't harm anything. There may be some fidelety issues, but it sholdn't damage anything AFAIK. I used to think that, but do the math: IMHO when using AC, higher impedances - higher voltages, less intensity; results: less volume, but usually better sound; maybe because that voltage increase enhances factor damping, and reduces distortion. Will voltage increase will damage your output amp stage? I use too a MS722 with a pair of 32 Ohm headphones and haven't experienced any problems, but YMMV... BTW what an odd impedance, did you get it by measuring or is specified on its specs? impedances are usually power/multiple of 2 numbers... 2, 4, 8, 16, 24, 32, etc... I just got some new headphones - Panasonic RP-HT710's. They have a 58ohm impedance, and I have a Sharp MD-MS722. It says 16-19ohm impedance in the manual. Need I worry? -Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers, *---(*)---**-- Francisco J. Montilla - System Network admin - Seville - Spain pacopepeATinsflug.org - irc: pukka - Coordinador INSFLUG (insflug.org) DoQmail: qmail en castellano es.qmail.org - OpenSlink Project: slink.org - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: D'Oh! (was Re: Unmatching impedance)
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Well, now that i've used my headphones on my sound card, the sound card is a lot noisier. Now I cant use my MD-MS722 to record from it with sync cuz of the noise! DAMN. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 5:59 AM Subject: Re: MD: Unmatching impedance On Sun, 13 May 2001, Jim Coon wrote: Hi, Going lower than recommended can damage equipment. Higher impedance generally won't harm anything. There may be some fidelety issues, but it sholdn't damage anything AFAIK. I used to think that, but do the math: IMHO when using AC, higher impedances - higher voltages, less intensity; results: less volume, but usually better sound; maybe because that voltage increase enhances factor damping, and reduces distortion. Will voltage increase will damage your output amp stage? I use too a MS722 with a pair of 32 Ohm headphones and haven't experienced any problems, but YMMV... BTW what an odd impedance, did you get it by measuring or is specified on its specs? impedances are usually power/multiple of 2 numbers... 2, 4, 8, 16, 24, 32, etc... I just got some new headphones - Panasonic RP-HT710's. They have a 58ohm impedance, and I have a Sharp MD-MS722. It says 16-19ohm impedance in the manual. Need I worry? -Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers, *---(*)---**-- Francisco J. Montilla - System Network admin - Seville - Spain pacopepeATinsflug.org - irc: pukka - Coordinador INSFLUG (insflug.org) DoQmail: qmail en castellano es.qmail.org - OpenSlink Project: slink.org - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Unmatching impedance
I just got some new headphones - Panasonic RP-HT710's. They have a 58ohm impedance, and I have a Sharp MD-MS722. It says 16-19ohm impedance in the manual. Need I worry? -Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brainbench certified PC Technician, Linux Admin, and Win98 user. Claiming that video-games affects kids is ridiculous. If that was the point, then everyone who played Pac-man in the late 80s would be running around a dark room eating pills to monotonous music. - Swedish culture-journalist Staffan Blomsjø in newspaper Aftonbladet - - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: audition channel on sound cards?
yeah - Unmute Line In - as long as Line In isnt selected to record from, your fine -Rob - Original Message - From: Brent Harding [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 10:41 PM Subject: MD: audition channel on sound cards? Is there any inexpensive sound card that has an audition channel where I can play stuff that I hear but doesn't go in to the recording? Is there a way to make this happen with a sblive value? I know the what you hear option takes everything, but I know the disaster of clicking on audio enabled websites while doing internet radio streaming, was over by my friend's house when he did this and had to find some way of incorporating the song in to the program. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Off topic... Iomega Rebate
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === it's a $40 discount on your next purchase. Almost as pathetic as the $50 i got for my TV lol I get this letter saying that I get a settlement for some class action lawsuit and get a cool $50 for nothing, never had problems with the TV. - Original Message - From: "Jeffrey Scorsone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: Re: MD: Off topic... Iomega Rebate yes, but it's not that big of a rebate... I got my mail from them the other day. It's not much money and without going through in detail, it's hard to tell if it's money or just a discount on the next purchase, from the way it's written. Unless you bought a bunch of drives it's unlikely you'll even see twenty dollars for your effort of trying to collect. just my .02 -Jeffrey On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Taky Cheung wrote: A while ago, we have debate here about how good iomega products are. I found this news from CNet news.com. Iomega is giving out rebates to millions of customers who purchased their zip drive between 1/1/95 to 3/19/2001. TAKY CHEUNG http://hottaky.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: sharp MD-X5 and MS-702
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === You could always ship it to the repair shop =) Call them, and they can give instructions on how to ship for warranty repair - I dont sympathize, the closest repair shop for me is a 3.5 hr drive away! -Rob - Original Message - From: "me" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:25 PM Subject: MD: sharp MD-X5 and MS-702 hi all, ive got the MD-X5 minisystem, and the MS-702 player/recorder. the only problem is whenever i play MDs that i made on the X5 on the 702, i get horrible static, so loud that its unbearable, and not listen-able. i would guess that its an ATRAC incompatibility, but that doesnt make sense - the X5 is older than the 702 (at least, i think so) so it should be backwards compatible, right? basically, what im asking is does anyone have experience with MDs authored by the X5? can anyone recommend a portable player *not a recorder* that will work with the aforementioned MDs? and i have tried emailing sharp - they said take it to a repair place, with is over 1.5 hours away... thanks eli - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Why AIWA is copying Sony!
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MD: (Again) Why Aiwa is Copying Sony!
Because they ARE Sony! http://www.sony.co.jp/en/SonyInfo/CorporateInfo/Subsidiaries -Rob - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a Zip killer?
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Well, I think anyone who buys Iomega products deserves the shafting they get with the inferior products: Here's Iomega's MD competetor: http://www.iomega.com/hipzip/index.html $299, with 40MB (20 minutes of 256kbps MP3) media costing $10. Wow, they are REAL cool! /sarcasm -Rob - Original Message - From: "Simon Mackay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MiniDisc Mailing List (E-mail)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 8:57 AM Subject: MD: MD Data 2 - why can't it be marketed as a "Zip killer"? Hi everyone! I have read about the MD Discam on the Sony Web site and it only can hold up to 20 minutes worth of video on one MD Data2 disc which can hold 640 Mb of data. If Sony improved the disc access time for MD Data so that it is comparable to a hard disk, they could end up with a product that overtakes Iomega's low-end removeable data storage solutions easily. The orginal MD Data hardware was known to be as slow as a floppy, require a SCSI interface which wasn't common on PCs at the time of its release; and was very expensive. Iomega stole the thunder out of this format because its portable Zip drive had higher-speed access, worked with a parallel-port interface and was sold in a price-subsidised manner where there were cheap drives and expensive media. Now the landscape for MD Data has changed significantly. Most computers made since 1997 have a USB port on them for connection of removeable media devices and similar peripherals and Firewire is now considered a valid option for a ultra-high-speed access prot for removeable media hardware. If a manufacturer designs a USB peripheral such as a removeable-media drive to consume a small amount of power, they can have the device draw power from the host computer. The speed of access and data throughput can be improved by use of higher-than-normal spindle speeds and spinning constant-linear-velocity media like CD-ROM and MD Data at a fixed spindle speed unless "real-time" data like sound or video is being moved. Also, an MD Data 2 disc can carry over 1440 1.3 Megapixel JPEG digital camera images held at a low compression ratio, or 320 2.1 Megapixel images held at a low compression rate. This format will be a boon to the digital camera user, who has to mess around with buying lots of expensive memory cards to use their digital camera at its best potential or use low-resolution shooting modes which don't bring out the best in today's digital cameras so they can cover themselves for a long photography session. A good peripheral that makes use of MD Data 2 would be an image-transfer unit which copies images held on a memory card onto an MD Data 2 disc. This is in a similar vein to what Iomega are selling with their PocketZip drive for digital cameras and their Fotoshiw Image Viewer which copies digital images from Compact Flash or SmartMedia cards to Zip disks. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Dataplay Digital Format??
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Here's some points to consider: If you've seen some mockups of the players, they're plasticky ugly things. My Sharp MD-MS722 is an industrial art masterpiece. And how often do you loose a quarter? What if that meant byebye to all of your music for the day? -Rob - Original Message - From: "payvand" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:50 PM Subject: Re: MD: Dataplay Digital Format?? On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering how many others have heard of this new digital format that is scheduled to begin marketing later this year(www.dataplay.com)? I read an article today that indicated that it was going to involve a disc that kind of appears to be like a minidisc, but about the size of a quarter. The disc is supposed to be used in multiple applications(audio, video, ebooks, etc.)and suposedly holds 5 hours of "CD quality" sound on one disc. There are supposed to be blanks that are recordable, but one time only. several major players in the music industry are supposed to be backing this as a new format for pre-recorded music, also. It sounds like a cross between MP3 and MD. I don't know what the technology is that allows for this much data to be stored on the disc. I think they're using different color lasers along with compression. blue lasers have a shorter warelength, and as such, they can read sectors that are closer to each other than red lasers (which most cd/dvd players use). Blue lasers are more expensive than red and I think that's limited their use. My lover told me something about this exact thing a while back. I think I remember something about them having 500meg of space. Obviously, if this is successful, it is a threat to MD as an ongoing format. I'm concerned because, at least from what I've been able to ascertain, it will not have the flexibility in terms of editing and reuse that MDs have. I'm also wondering about sound quality. I don't think we need to worry. Obviously, other digital/optical formats are going to be out there as we move into the future, but MD has been around for too long. And MD is not one-time record, let's not forget that. Still, this new stuff is a cool thing. I have a feeling they'll make some kind of portable thing for kids with it. Toys, or maybe players targeted to the teen market. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Dataplay Digital Format??
It's called FMD - Flourescent Multilayer Disc. - Original Message - From: "I Can Not Tell You" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 12:03 AM Subject: Re: MD: Dataplay Digital Format?? === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Not that these are/were threat to MDs but I cant recall the correct name but remeber FDROM(clear cdrom type media) was able to hold like 170gb or socant recall...havent see that yet either. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: holding STOP and CLEAR on MDS-JB940
Hi david, i have a question for ya - when yuo post, why do you carbon copy to the list and not send to the list? When you carbon copy to the list, it goes into my inbox, not the MD-L folder. Just a question =) -Rob - Original Message - From: "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: MD: holding STOP and CLEAR on MDS-JB940 Josh asked, | If you hold down STOP and CLEAR for a while you get some sort of test mode, | any idea what this is? Do you get the same thing if you hold STOP without CLEAR? Then it's Retry Cause Display mode. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Recording mp3 to MD (the DFX parameter)
Hi Tim, With an optical card, all you get is what you hear at the speakers. That means the DFX processing WILL go through the S/PDIF out. And DFX makes the recording sound much better. Digital recording is so much simpler than Analog. - Original Message - From: "tim m" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: MD: Recording mp3 to MD (the DFX parameter) hi,one more q from me.. i'd like to ask this: i'm having the usual dillemma: mp3 to minidisc transfer : should i spend the extra buck to get sth like Hoontech's optical I/O daughter card or go for analog transfer?(mind u i got SBLive!1024 and a Sony MZR37.) There is also this parameter: i listen to my mp3 thru winamp BUT i also use the DFX 4.1 audio enhancer plug-in and i can't stress enough how much it enhances the quality of what i hear. When i record via optical cable we have bit to bit transfer right?So any plug-in or equalizer doesn't affect the result.correct?So,in the end what i'll hear from the MD will sound exactly like what i heard from my PC without using DFX? That would suck.. ;) What happens when i record analog?Does DFX affect the result (ie.enhance the quality of the MD recording)? Please anyone share your experience on this one :) thanx tim - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Recording mp3 to MD (the DFX parameter)
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Yes, it'll be the same using line-out. But i have an extreme hatred for line out, because of quality loss, having to adjust volume, and all sorts of stuff. It's up to you. -Rob - Original Message - From: "tim m" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: Re: MD: Recording mp3 to MD (the DFX parameter) === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === OK, so by using an optical out i take advantage of the DFX.That's cool. Using just the line-out allows that to happen as well? cheers for the info tim - Original Message - From: "Robert J Lynn Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 6:15 PM Subject: Re: MD: Recording mp3 to MD (the DFX parameter) : : Hi Tim, : With an optical card, all you get is what you hear at the speakers. That : means the DFX processing WILL go through the S/PDIF out. And DFX makes the : recording sound much better. Digital recording is so much simpler than : Analog. : - Original Message - : From: "tim m" [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:15 AM : Subject: MD: Recording mp3 to MD (the DFX parameter) : : : : hi,one more q from me.. : i'd like to ask this: : i'm having the usual dillemma: mp3 to minidisc transfer : should i spend : the : extra buck to get sth like Hoontech's optical I/O daughter card or go for : analog transfer?(mind u i got SBLive!1024 and a Sony MZR37.) : There is also this parameter: i listen to my mp3 thru winamp BUT i also : use : the DFX 4.1 audio enhancer plug-in and i can't stress enough how much it : enhances the quality of what i hear. : When i record via optical cable we have bit to bit transfer right?So any : plug-in or equalizer doesn't affect the result.correct?So,in the end what : i'll hear from the MD will sound exactly like what i heard from my PC : without using DFX? That would suck.. ;) : What happens when i record analog?Does DFX affect the result (ie.enhance : the : quality of the MD recording)? : Please anyone share your experience on this one :) : thanx : tim : - : To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word : "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : : - : To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word : "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Why MiniDisc?
It's a question we constantly see everyone who wants a portable player. Why MiniDisc instead of MP3? Why MP3 instead of MiniDisc? Well, here's MY view! The Sharp MD-MS722 is an AWESOME machine! Just look at it. Made of _METAL_, has a jog dial that helps in editing, selecting tracks, and in titling. To me, it's not just an MD recorder, its a great example of GREAT industrial design. If you whip this thing out in public, you'll attract a small crowd! MD naysayers say the rotating media of MiniDiscs is bad. Just today my friend picked up my MD-MS722 and shook it real hard chanting like an idiot, "Does it skip? Does it skip?!" Needless to say, IT DIDN'T. The quality issue is already annulled. The MD-MS722 has 24bit encoding, hevce giving it a greater dynamic range than CD. I can grab the MD-MS722, a few discs, slap on my phones, and im ready to go for the day. Don't like a song? Grab the remote, and change it. Remote you say? You've never seen one on an MP3 player? Oh, darn. Your an idiot and bought an MP3 player without doing the research. With MP3, the bigger players that tout "OVER 40 HOURS OF MUSIC" are crap. Take a look at http://www.mymuzik.com/images/archoslg.jpg. It's UGLY! Thick, blocky, and has a big circle to control everything. Sure, it holds more music than I own, but I DON'T CARE. If i drop it when its running, chances are i'll ruin the HDD. With my MD player, I would yell and cuss, and have a new scratch, but PROBABLY not much more. And for the MP3 player, I'd need a computer to use it anyway. Just today i fell asleep in class and led the MD-MS722 take notes for me. I see MD as the big player, not MP3. Reguards, -Rob -- Robert J. Lynn, Jr. Brainbench Certified Computer Technician, Linux Administrator, and Master Windows 98 User PGP Key ID: 0xCDE22CFB (RSA) [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] EFNet: Vegeta99 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Basic MD questions
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Fuh. I sent this over a week and a half ago. Odd. - Original Message - From: "Robert J Lynn Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: Re: MD: Basic MD questions === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Hiya Paul - On my Sharp MD-MS722, you can listen to whatever is coming through the LINE/OPTICAL or MIC in as soon as you hit the REC button. The player itself can power a mic, or accept LINE and digital optical. To take it over to PC, you could either use an analog cable or get an MD component deck and use the optical out, provided your sound card supports it. - Original Message - From: "PAUL MCDONALD" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: MD: Basic MD questions These questions are pretty basic, and are probably already covered somewhere at minidisc.org or in the archives, but I can't for the life of me find them. So here goes. I've decided that I need a (relatively) inexpensive, compact, high-quality sound recorder for audio for my short films. (my video camera has no mic jack) MD looks like the way to go, though I still have a few queries (applying to the Sony MZR70 specifically): * A salesperson told me that you can listen to what you're recording using headphones. That's a great feature. Is it true? * I will need to download the audio to my computer for sync with visuals and post-production tinkering. Is this possible? I have a relatively new computer (PII) and a soundcard (audio sonique, I believe). What cables or adaptors will I be needing? * I'll be needing both an omni and unidirectional mic. Is it worth buying the standard Sony MD mics (not sure of code but retail for about A$150)? Will many other mics connect to the unit? I really appreciate the help, and please forgive the newbieness of these questions, its just that salespeople no helpy :( Paul McDonald - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: recovering deleted TOC
I cant remember exatly how to do it, bu TRUST ME, its still there. It just deletes the entry from the TOC. - Original Message - From: "Matthew Bullis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:54 PM Subject: Re: MD: recovering deleted TOC How do you know the data is still present? In my MZ-R70 manual, it says that once you delete, you can't get it back. Thanks for any help. Matthew - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === So? It still requires a computer ($500) and a CD-R burner ($120 old model). I admit, i use my MD for most of my MP3 music on om computer, but I like to take notes with my mic and record off friends at school. So, rules out MP3. -Rob - Original Message - From: "JT" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:31 PM Subject: Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ?? On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Mike Burger wrote: You tell me. I can get a decent MD recorder for much $40-50USD less, and not have to pay as much for the media. What's a CF card cost these days for a card with enough capacity to hold an hour or so worth of music? A minidisc is about $1.20 to $1.50 per disc. I think you misunderstood what he was referring to. The Philips Expanium is a CD player that can read MP3s off CDRs. So, the media costs about $0.50 max for anywhere from 4 to 10 hours (depending on bitrate) of music. Josh - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Basic MD questions
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Hiya Paul - On my Sharp MD-MS722, you can listen to whatever is coming through the LINE/OPTICAL or MIC in as soon as you hit the REC button. The player itself can power a mic, or accept LINE and digital optical. To take it over to PC, you could either use an analog cable or get an MD component deck and use the optical out, provided your sound card supports it. - Original Message - From: "PAUL MCDONALD" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:40 PM Subject: MD: Basic MD questions These questions are pretty basic, and are probably already covered somewhere at minidisc.org or in the archives, but I can't for the life of me find them. So here goes. I've decided that I need a (relatively) inexpensive, compact, high-quality sound recorder for audio for my short films. (my video camera has no mic jack) MD looks like the way to go, though I still have a few queries (applying to the Sony MZR70 specifically): * A salesperson told me that you can listen to what you're recording using headphones. That's a great feature. Is it true? * I will need to download the audio to my computer for sync with visuals and post-production tinkering. Is this possible? I have a relatively new computer (PII) and a soundcard (audio sonique, I believe). What cables or adaptors will I be needing? * I'll be needing both an omni and unidirectional mic. Is it worth buying the standard Sony MD mics (not sure of code but retail for about A$150)? Will many other mics connect to the unit? I really appreciate the help, and please forgive the newbieness of these questions, its just that salespeople no helpy :( Paul McDonald - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3's vs MD.
Hiya, When I decided MD over MP3, just about a year ago, it was OBVIOUS even to me, one who LIVED on his MP3 Playlist, that MD was better. This magnificent little disc holds 74 minutes of audio, in a very clear and dynamic compression algorithm. MP3 players turned me off because usually players held no more than 64MB (~32min at my bit rate), and the media is about $1/MB, too expensive! I bought my Sharp MD-MT15 with 8 blanks on an eBay auction for about $195. I payed too much, but hey! Even this ugly player (my opinion) grabs eyes. Chick magnet galore. By about May at school, kids were getting these dopey MP3 players. Nothing beat my nice little MD-MT15 though, with its little "HELLO!" when ya started it! And a real fun thing to do with an MD player is attach a little mic and record stuff. Just recording random things durning a school day would get kicks galore for me and my friends. Can ya do that with an MP3 player, other than one of those bulky hard-drive-in-a-box players? I think not. Sure, MD has its non-believers (see the MD community post, in the news section is something about a self proclaimed "audiophile" who hates MD but likes MP3.), but it seems a lot of those people sit in front of their two $30,000 monaural amps driving $20,000 speakers. And they also think turntable sounds better than ANY digital audio. I'll give them CD, but I'd have to say that 48kHz/32bit sounds better than anything a turntable can cough up. MP3 is a techincally dead, however consumer-loved medium. MiniDisc just sadly doesn't have the "oomph" in the consumer market it needs. Looking from a purely technical standpoint, ATRAC beats MP3. ATRAC is fully reverse and forward compatible, and is constantly updated with new revisions. MP3 has been the same since the MPEG1 Audio standard was made back in the late '80s. MP3 uses Flash Media, which does beat MD in one aspect - durability. However, a $1.50 MD is a lot nicer when it breaks than a $64 SmartMedia. With an MP3 player, you can usually copy your music faster than realtime. Beats MD again. There are ways around this - CD-RW and a faster-than-1x CD-to-MD copier. But, to record to MP3, you need a computer - at least a 686 generation processor around 300MHz. With MD, you need a line out, thats IT. And my (soon to be here) Sharp MD-MS722 looks AWESOME! I mean, the industrial design that goes in to these players is VERY impressive. Especially for Sharp. MD all the way! -- Robert J. Lynn, Jr. Brainbench Certified Computer Technician, Linux Administrator, and Master Windows 98 User PGP Key ID: 0xCDE22CFB (RSA) [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] EFNet: Vegeta99 - Original Message - From: "Ivica Petrovic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MD" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:42 PM Subject: Re: MD: MP3's vs MD. Donald Person wrote This is another reason I don't understand why all these portable MP3 devices are so popular. People are misers? wow, a bunch of music for a cost of nothing! and the quality is equal. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sharp MD-MS722
Hello, I just bought a Sharp MD-MS722. Are there any glaring problems with the product that I should know about (other than its about as thick as a novel ;-P) -- Robert J. Lynn, Jr. Brainbench Certified Computer Technician, Linux Administrator, and Master Windows 98 User PGP Key ID: 0xCDE22CFB (RSA) [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] EFNet: Vegeta99 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
