Re: MD: lossless compression
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, David W. Tamkin wrote: There is another that I heard of, but I can't remember its name, and I never did know where to find out about it. Monkey Audio. Not sure of the website ATM. Josh - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: lossless compression
2 lossless audio compression's i've heard of http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ http://www-ft.ee.tu-berlin.de/~liebchen/lpac.html i hope this is what your looking for - Original Message - From: "JT" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MDList" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 5:11 PM Subject: Re: MD: lossless compression On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, David W. Tamkin wrote: There is another that I heard of, but I can't remember its name, and I never did know where to find out about it. Monkey Audio. Not sure of the website ATM. Josh - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: lossless compression
I beg to differ. The format is called MLP (Meridian Lossless Packing) and it is distributed by Dolby Labs. It can compress any PCM file, and yes, it is supposed to be used in DVD-A. - Original Message - From: "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MDList" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Re: MD: lossless compression 5:1 lossless compression doesn't exist, at least not yet. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: lossless compression
I beg to differ. The format is called MLP (Meridian Lossless Packing) and it is distributed by Dolby Labs. It can compress any PCM file, and yes, it is supposed to be used in DVD-A. So if CDs can hold 74 minute of uncompressed audio with 650 Megabytes, a (Single-sided, single-layered) DVD with 4.37 Gigs could hold... 509 minutes (8.48 hours) of uncompressed (CD-quality) audio 2545 minutes (42.4 hours) of MLP-compressed (CD-quality) audio 5599 minutes (93.3 hours minimum) of MP3-compressed audio * * I once read that MP3 gave compressions of 11:1 up to 20:1, but I don't know what setting (bitrate, frequency, etc...) this is at. Of course, none of this is related to MiniDisc, but interesting nonetheless. - Anthony L. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: lossless compression
"Francisco J. Huerta" wrote: I beg to differ. The format is called MLP (Meridian Lossless Packing) and it is distributed by Dolby Labs. It can compress any PCM file, and yes, it is supposed to be used in DVD-A. 5:1 lossless compression doesn't exist, at least not yet. I looked up Meridian Lossless Packing and came up with this: http://www.meridian-audio.com/p_mlp.htm From the article: "MLP is expected to reduce bandwidth by 38 to 52% (to 6.6-8.6 Mbps), allowing anywhere from 73 to 89 minutes on a DVD-5" That is nowhere near 5:1 lossless compression. -steve - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: lossless compression
* Steve Corey [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 12 Jan 2001 | That is nowhere near 5:1 lossless compression. Right. These days the most advanced compression algorithms with large blocks is around 2.0-2.5:1. Five to one is not going to happen for a while. The memory and processing requirements are astronomical based on today's tech. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ unknown glowing substance which fell to PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ Earth, presumably from outer space. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: lossless compression
I have recently been looking at Lossless compression products was quite impressed with the following Free product. http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: lossless compression
| | | Anthony Lalande [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I think it's all subjective. Cassettes are low-end, because of their | low signal-to-noise ratios (I think; I'm not an expert in this sort | of thing), but they were high end once. So were vinyl records and | Victorolas. Dan Frakes wrote, | Um... is there such a thing as "lossless" compression? I don't think | so... I think "lossy compression" is redundant ;) Yes, there is such a thing, so no, the term isn't redundant. In addition to Dave Kimmel's example of .zip files, there is an audio format called "Shorten" that compresses .wav files by about 2:1 with no loss of data, described and promoted at http://www.etree.org. There is another that I heard of, but I can't remember its name, and I never did know where to find out about it. 5:1 lossless compression doesn't exist, at least not yet. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
