Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-06-14 Thread Dodge


Thanks...

Then i'd have to get me a new recorder AND a new portable AND a new car MD 
AND the MDS-PC3 (if it supports MDLP)
It's a bit too costly for me... :(

But thank you anyway

Greetz,
D


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RE: MD: MDLP Question

2001-06-13 Thread Steve Hill


 Is it possible to play back MD's that were recorded in MDLP 
 on an older, 
 non MDLP player ?

No. IIRC, the tracks will play as a silence half as long as the track that
was recorded and, unless it was turned off on the recording deck, the track
title will be prefixed with LP:. Of course, tracks recorded in SP mode
will play on all MD players regardless of which recorder was used.

S.
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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-29 Thread Ken Clinger


I've made some compilation discs at LP4, for my *noisy* commute (crowded
bus, downtown traffic noises) and it's fine for that. Also probably would
work well for low-volume background music. But at home, it's obvious that
the high frequencies aren't there, and stereo isn't as stereo. 

I can't hear any difference between LP2 and SP, but I grew up on
cassettes, so my demands are probably not that stellar.


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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-29 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* Ken Clinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Tue, 29 May 2001
| I've made some compilation discs at LP4, for my *noisy* commute (crowded
| bus, downtown traffic noises) and it's fine for that. Also probably would
| work well for low-volume background music. But at home, it's obvious that
| the high frequencies aren't there, and stereo isn't as stereo.

Yep, that is pretty much exactly what you should be hearing.

Keep in mind that the majority of people carrying around portables use the
crap headphones that come with the unit.  Which means that they probably
won't be able to tell the difference between SP and LP4 and really don't
care.
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RE: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-26 Thread Simon Mackay


=BEGIN QUOTE===
I downloaded the codec from that page and did some tests by encoding a
WAV file at various ATRAC bitrates.  I find the LP2 bitrate to be quite
acceptable, and the LP4 bitrate to be unacceptable for music with a wide
stereo field, but perfectly acceptable for mono or narrow stereo
sources.
==END QUOTE===

MDLP, especially the LP4 mode, also can come in handy for background music
or PA-related applications where quality isn't critical. In these
environments, stereo separation isn't critical because speakers are often
located where the business owner sees fit so as to cover the area with
music. Also, the music often competes with lots of other background noise,
especially in a restaurant or bar.

Sony also promoted the concept of MDLP being suitable for long-distance
driving in countries like USA and Australia, where there is a large federal
area and you can cross the country east-to-west without passing through
border controls. They envisage that the music would be competing with the
engine and road noise while the driver is concentrating on covering the
long-distance journey and there is a need to only carry one disc full of
music to cover the journey one-way; or two discs to cover the journey there
and back without the music repeating. This would work well if the car MD
player was set in shuffle-play mode.

As for equipment used for this kind of application, the equipment should
support segue-shuffle where the next track appears to start the moment the
current track ends if the MD player is playing a disc where dead-air at
the start and end of songs is edited out. This is the behaviour that the
Sony portables and car units exhibit when placed in shuffle-play mode.

With regards,

Simon

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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-25 Thread Marc Britten


I have a R700 but i've been too lazy to play around with the mdlp function, maybe i'll 
play with it this weekend.

but thats pretty much what i've been wondering too, how much more lossy is it?

marc


On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:03:40AM -0400, Thomas, Ferris wrote:
 
 Has anyone on the list gone out and gotten one of the new MDLP recorders
 like SONY MZ-R700?  If so, I was wondering if this fantastic new disc-length
 comes with a cost of lossy compression?
 While the added disc length would be much appreciated, I wouldn't go for it
 at a cost of sound quality.
 (Feel free to reply off-list to the address below.)
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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-25 Thread Steve Corey


Here's a MDLP faq:

http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html

I downloaded the codec from that page and did some tests by encoding a
WAV file at various ATRAC bitrates.  I find the LP2 bitrate to be quite
acceptable, and the LP4 bitrate to be unacceptable for music with a wide
stereo field, but perfectly acceptable for mono or narrow stereo
sources.

Try the codec for yourself and see if you find the compression
acceptable.

-steve

Marc Britten wrote:
 
 I have a R700 but i've been too lazy to play around with the mdlp function, maybe 
i'll play with it this weekend.
 
 but thats pretty much what i've been wondering too, how much more lossy is it?
 
 marc
 
 On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:03:40AM -0400, Thomas, Ferris wrote:
 
  Has anyone on the list gone out and gotten one of the new MDLP recorders
  like SONY MZ-R700?  If so, I was wondering if this fantastic new disc-length
  comes with a cost of lossy compression?
  While the added disc length would be much appreciated, I wouldn't go for it
  at a cost of sound quality.
  (Feel free to reply off-list to the address below.)
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Re: MD: MDLP Question

2001-05-25 Thread Marc Britten


cool faq, didn't see that on the sight.  i think the problem w/ mindisc.org is theres 
just too much info ;)

the 132(aka lp2) file seemed acceptable(only lisnted to a little of the example file 
linked from the faq) I'll definatly have to give it a shot this weekend, the extra 
space could goto some good use for making disc's for work use.

(any typeo's are because one arm is in a sling and that makes it hard to type)

marc

On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:01:47AM -0600, Steve Corey wrote:
 
 Here's a MDLP faq:
 
 http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html
 
 I downloaded the codec from that page and did some tests by encoding a
 WAV file at various ATRAC bitrates.  I find the LP2 bitrate to be quite
 acceptable, and the LP4 bitrate to be unacceptable for music with a wide
 stereo field, but perfectly acceptable for mono or narrow stereo
 sources.
 
 Try the codec for yourself and see if you find the compression
 acceptable.
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Re: MD: MDLP question

2000-08-11 Thread PrinceGaz


From: "Nicholas Christ" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello, I'm new to the list.
 I was wondering if the new MDLP records will also be able to record in
 the standard SP (74 or 80 minute) mode as well as the MDLP24 modes.
 I read the MDLP FAQ and couldn't find the answer in there (Although I
 apologize if it was there and I somehow missed it.)  Thanks.
 -Nicholas Christ
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would say the answer has to be yes, there is no way they could hope
to make a new generation of equipment that is totally incompatible
with older units.

Actually I would expect the default setting for the new units to be SP
mode, and recording in LP2 or LP4 requires specifying in a record-mode
selection.

PrinceGaz.


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