RE: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread Simon Barnes


Keith Wilson wrote:

 If a price on a website is incorrect, how legally binding is it?

In the UK, a price label in a shop window is termed "an offer to treat"
(cheat?), and there is no legal requirement to actually sell at that price.
I imagine on a web site you have even less chance of enforcing the price :-(
stinks, don't it ?

simon
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Re: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread J. Coon



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I think you need to email them and find out the correct price.   I doubt if they will 
just give it
to you.

Keith Wilson wrote:

 If a price on a website is incorrect, how legally binding is it?

 I was on a website today, and saw a price for a MD7xx battery for 0.00 and
 a postage cost of 1 ukpound.

 On the final checkout screen I saw this:

 Listed below are the items you have selected this session. If you are happy
 with this choose a payment method and fill out the form. To change any item
 return to your shopping basket basket.ihtml
 ID  name

 price   quantitytotal
 8020107 Sharp AD-S30BTX Lithium-ion battery for MD-MS702H   ?CALL
 ?CALL   2   ?0.00 ?0.00

 Total Total Postage Estimate  Ex vat Inc vat United Kingdom Postage:0.00
 0.00 ?1.00
 Scale of postage charges
 Additional postage may be added to  your order by our operators. If so this
 is the scale of  charges which will apply   up to ?50   ?50 - ?100   
   ?100 or
 greater
 UK  ?1.00   ?3.50   ?6.00
 Euro?1.00   ?5.00   ?12.50
 Other   ?3.50   ?5.00   ?20.00
 For security your IP address has been logged xx.xx.xx.xx

 I have hidden the links, and my IP address for confidentiality's sake, I
 like my ass where is is and not sued!

 In the UK, legally can I hold them to this?

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RE: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread Alan Dowds


Hi,

In the small print somewhere on the site, there is probably the letters
eoe, meaning errors and omissions excepted. The shop will probably claim
this excuses it from sticking to an 'obvious' mistake like free batteries.

Maybe you would win a case, if you went to court with lawyer, barristers,
etc...

Maybe not.

I'd just order it anyway, and see if it arrives (depends on how automated
the site is)

Keep the order printout so if they charge your credit card, complain to your
card company.

Oh, and can you tell us what site it is so we can all try it?:)

Cheers,

Alan

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If a price on a website is incorrect, how legally binding is it?

I was on a website today, and saw a price for a MD7xx battery for 0.00 and
a postage cost of 1 ukpound.

On the final checkout screen I saw this:

Listed below are the items you have selected this session. If you are happy
with this choose a payment method and fill out the form. To change any item
return to your shopping basket basket.ihtml
ID  name

price   quantitytotal
8020107 Sharp AD-S30BTX Lithium-ion battery for MD-MS702H   ?CALL
?CALL   2   ?0.00 ?0.00

Total Total Postage Estimate  Ex vat Inc vat United Kingdom Postage:0.00
0.00 ?1.00
Scale of postage charges
Additional postage may be added to  your order by our operators. If so this
is the scale of  charges which will apply   up to ?50   ?50 - ?100 
 ?100 or
greater
UK  ?1.00   ?3.50   ?6.00
Euro?1.00   ?5.00   ?12.50
Other   ?3.50   ?5.00   ?20.00
For security your IP address has been logged xx.xx.xx.xx

I have hidden the links, and my IP address for confidentiality's sake, I
like my ass where is is and not sued!

In the UK, legally can I hold them to this?

Keith - Senior Development Programmer

 Email : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Work  : 01689 835 353  Fax : 01689 838 323
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Re: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread Tim Arnold



 Keith Wilson wrote:

  If a price on a website is incorrect, how legally binding is it?

Simon Barnes said:

 In the UK, a price label in a shop window is termed "an offer to treat"
 (cheat?), and there is no legal requirement to actually sell at that
price.
 I imagine on a web site you have even less chance of enforcing the price
:-(
 stinks, don't it ?

But in the above example the trader could be guilty under the trade
descriptions act. ;)

Tim Arnold
Slough UK


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RE: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread Simon Gardner


 If a price on a website is incorrect, how legally binding is it?

 I was on a website today, and saw a price for a MD7xx battery for
 0.00 and
 a postage cost of 1 ukpound.

 In the UK, legally can I hold them to this?

That depends - in a shop situation, the marked price is an "invitation to
treat", which is not a binding price until an agreement has been made
between the buyer and seller (typically when you have over the money/swipe
the card).

Formally, the buyer makes an offer which the seller has the right to
reject. This is just implied usually - the buyer's happy with the marked
price, the seller's happy to sell at the marked price.

This means that you don't have the right to buy something at a marked
price - the seller can simply reject the offer.

It gets more complicated with online shopping - at what point in the
transaction has an "agreement" been made, and is the automated response of a
webserver as legally binding as the verbal/written agreement from a human
seller?

Possibly worth a try, but from similar examples (Argos 2.99 TVs, etc), you
don't have much of a case.

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Simon

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Re: MD: Prices On Websites and Legal Factors Implied

2000-03-07 Thread PrinceGaz


Hi,

About whether prices on websites (or elsewhere) are legally binding
in Britain, I had this experience in Dixons a few years ago.

I wander in to browse with a particular interest in memory modules
for the Psion3a organiser to see just how much more they cost there
than by mail order.

To my surprise a 512K RAM module is priced at ukp80, rather than
the ukp130 it usually sells for, perhaps ukp110 at best by mail order.
Wow-- it's obvious some assistant read the price of the 512K Flash
module which is a lot cheaper and stuck that on.  So I buy it.  When
he inputs the item in the till it comes up at the much higher price, so
he calls the store manager who after a quick think put a "special
discount" entry on the purchase to make it the lower price.

Once I had bought the item, I confessed I knew all along it was
incorrectly priced and enquired whether they were obliged to honor
the price displayed (I had thought they were).

I was told by the manager they need not sell it, but must then remove
it from sale for 24 hours before redisplaying at the correct price.  I
was told the same thing when buying my Washer/Dryer at another
shop (underpriced about ukp150-- they'd forgotten the sale ended
some time back).

In both cases they honored the price as they weren't really making
a loss (but very little profit either), however selling the battery for
free and ukp1 postage would be a definite loss.  If they spot the
error I bet they cancel the order.  However many companes give
free carraige on net purchases and I bet that's because it saves
their staff inputting details-- you may find no-one spots the bargain
battery until it's too late :-)  Once they've charged your card and
shipped it-- I bet theres no legal way they can demand it back.

Thats what I think anyway!

Cheers,
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