Re: MD: Fw: Transferring MD to CD
At 20:16 2000-03-31 +1000, Peter Brown wrote And also a 5 second blank WAV file will work as a track separator on the CD. I don't understand that this topic keeps coming up - is there _any_ CD-writing program out there that doesn't allow you to specify the track gap? The old Easy CD Creator Pro v2 did, Nero does, Easy CD Creator does (if you bother to go into the menu), I'm quite sure WinOnCD does.. I mean, why bother creating a "gap" file when you can set the gap without kludges? /fnord - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Fw: Transferring MD to CD
Simon Gardner answered Peter Brown, | I've not had any problems with TDK Reflex discs. AVOID the | "audio" discs - they're designed for the consumer hi-fi recorders (more | expensive because of the smaller market) and probably won't work in a | computer CDR drive. It's the other way around: CDR drives and burning software should be able to handle audio discs, but standalone recorders cannot use data CDRs. The extra cost is mostly to cover the we-know-you're-a-pirate tax that they, like other consumer digital audio media, carry. As Tony Antoniou has posted, if you're burning the CDR on a computer, special "audio" or "music" discs are just a waste of money. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Fw: Transferring MD to CD
From: Mattias Bergsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 12:06 PM Subject: Re: MD: Fw: Transferring MD to CD I don't understand that this topic keeps coming up - is there _any_ CD-writing program out there that doesn't allow you to specify the track gap? AFAIK the only software which doesn't allow this is software that only burns "CD Image". These don't allow editing of what is on the CD at all, they literally take data from one "Image file" and write that direct to a CD. Any software that allows AudioCD creation should have the option to edit gaps between tracks. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Fw: Transferring MD to CD
I use: Plextor 820 CD-R Turtlebeach Fiji Soundforge for dynamics processing (i.e. Volume, compression, expansion, hard/soft limiting, etc.) Cooledit Pro for EQ'ing (30 band graphic EQ certainly does the trick) Verbatim Blue CD-R's (best compatibility, in my experience, with audio CD players) CDRwin CD Writing Software CD Wave Track Splitting program (works in conjunction with CDRwin ... loads up the single wav file, and splits tracks without inserting gaps - it's live shit after all!) In case you're wondering how I get my live MD's transported to the PC ... digital connection (optical out from the JA30ES) to my Turtlebeach Fiji (co-axial input - using homemade TOSlink - coax converter). And yes, Plextor CD-R drives for true reliability and the best data integrity by far. SCSI all the way ... no EIDE as you will suffer from a lot of buffer underruns if you decide to do other stuff while burning! And no, the more expensive "audio" CD-R's are specifically made for those standalone consumer recorders, not the PC type burners. So don't bother with those. No advantage, waste of money, useless to your burner. Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Brown Sent: Friday, 31 March 2000 20:17 To: Minidisc List Subject:MD: Fw: Transferring MD to CD Hi Can anyone advise of good software for 'producing' a minidisc recording, ie; making them sound better, fading out etc. In general I would like to know what everyone does to move a minidisc recording to CD, what tools people use, interesting websites, etc. I'm talking about live gigs recorded via binaurals. I know the general idea is to record each track as a WAV file, and then to record that file to CD. And also a 5 second blank WAV file will work as a track separator on the CD. Any tips on CDRs? I know SCSI is generally the way to go, and hear people recommending Plextor CDRs. And CDR disks, all I've heard about that is that the gold ones are better - I've seen the slightly more expensive 'Audio CDR's, are these are con or worthwhile? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Fw: Transferring MD to CD
Can anyone advise of good software for 'producing' a minidisc recording, ie; making them sound better, fading out etc. In general I would like to know what everyone does to move a minidisc recording to CD, what tools people use, interesting websites, etc. I'm talking about live gigs recorded via binaurals. I know the general idea is to record each track as a WAV file, and then to record that file to CD. And also a 5 second blank WAV file will work as a track separator on the CD. Something like CoolEdit or Soundforge will be fine. If it's just basic stuff, you might have a reasonable editor bundled with your soundcard - I've got an old copy of WaveStudio that came with my SB16, Creative seem to bundle a lot of stuff with their cards. Over here we've got magazines like Future Music that review software and other music stuff, you might have a local equivalent. With recording onto the PC: 1) Cheapskate way - buy a 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo lead, plug one end into MD recorder, other into "line in" on your soundcard. Mute everything but the line in, and record the lot as one big wav file (44khz, 16bit, stereo - makes things easier later on). 2) Better way - get hold of a deck (any MD unit with a digital out) and buy a soundcard that has digital in/out. There have been several reports of cheap cards with digital i/o in the last couple of months - check the md-l archives. Then just record in the same way - mute everything else, get one big wav file. Then open this big wav into your editor and chop it up (I tend to select a whole track, then cut+paste as a new file) till you've got several wavs, each one being a track. Tidy up the ends, do any fade in/out, etc. Then start up a CDR program and create a new audio CD from the wavs you've got. You don't need any extra wavs, separators, etc - the disc will be burned with trackmarks where one wav finishes and the next begins. Include any gaps that you want as silence on the end of tracks and burn the disc as "Disc-at-Once" or DAO. You can create a similar effect by burning the disc as "Track-at-Once", which will have 2-3 second gaps between tracks, but it's a bit kludgier as a CD player will count -0.02, -0.01, 0.00 before the start of a new track. Better to include the silence as part of the track. Any tips on CDRs? I know SCSI is generally the way to go, and hear people recommending Plextor CDRs. And CDR disks, all I've heard about that is that the gold ones are better - I've seen the slightly more expensive 'Audio CDR's, are these are con or worthwhile? Any recorder that can manage DAO will be fine (that's just about everything released in the last 18 months). SCSI is great, and the difference in price is low enough to make it very worthwhile, but an IDE will do the job just as well. As you're mastering audio CDs, CD-Text is a cool thing to have. Looks very smart having MD-style titles scrolling past :) Really, just go for as quick a drive as you can afford/justify. A very cheap 2x IDE drive will do audio CDs just as well as an 8x SCSI one, just take 4 times as long and use more resources as it does. I think Nero's site (www.ahead.de) has a list of what recorder supports what (DAO, CD-Text, etc). Although it's a bit more difficult to get used to, I like CDRWIN (www.goldenhawk.com) for burning CDs - it also has a good CD-Text editor. With CDR discs there's little/no difference between them, but you may find that some have problems in fussy CD players (car players, CD changers, old units, etc). I've not had any problems with TDK Reflex discs. AVOID the "audio" discs - they're designed for the consumer hi-fi recorders (more expensive because of the smaller market) and probably won't work in a computer CDR drive. There are some computer CDRs that are designed for audio use - check out which is which before you buy. -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
