RE: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs?
--- Alan Dowds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow - Richer Sounds backdated the warranty? That's bloody fantastic - did you have to haggle hard or did they just offer? They just offered - it took me by surprise too. I don't know whether my off-the-cuff remark about this being the very first time I'd not bothered with their Supercare warranty (which was true - when I bought my first separates system from them 7-8 years ago, I paid the extra on everything) swayed the saleschap at all. What's more I've just had a phone call to confirm that my JE520 is already back - in just 7 days. Now no-one on this list will buy an extended warranty - you just wait till the thing breaks, then pay the extra! If everyone tries it, they might revise their policy... ;) Regards, Mike. __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs?
BEGIN QUOTE= My JE520 has finally bitten the dust, I'm afraid. In the last two days, it started to have problems reading inserted discs, then problems skipping tracks and finally, last night, when I tried to skip several tracks backwards, went bananas (rapid clicking from the transport) and refused to eject. Eventually, I had to power the unit off at the mains and remove the cover to extract the MD. What appears to be happening is that the small white plastic cogs on the lower level of the transport mechanism (which control the lateral movement of the read/write head) are slipping. This only seems to occur now when the head is required to move from right to left into the first third of the disc (say, skipping from Tr8 of 10 to Tr3). Of course, this restriction to movement doesn't prevent sequential playback of an entire disc, but it does prevent ejection (the head returns to the leftmost position) or TOC-writing after recording. Pretty fatal. ==END QUOTE= What you are dealing with is a "chassis" deck which could have parts that benefit other Sony models. If you look at or inside the 530; you would reckon that it would share most of the 520's parts and you may be able to use the common parts to do some elementary repairs on either of these decks. I would suggest not to scrap the 520 but to look towards buying a 530 or another secondhand 520 for your next MiniDisc deck. If a part common to either of these machines has bitten the dust and you need to replace it, you could use salvageable parts from the 520 for the other machine. Also, if you are an electronics "tinkerer" and are competent with the soldering iron, if you scrap electronic equipment; don't throw it in the garbage, but keep it for parts that you may use in your projects. WIth regards, Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs?
--- Simon Mackay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would suggest not to scrap the 520 but to look towards buying a 530 or another secondhand 520 for your next MiniDisc deck. If a part common to either of these machines has bitten the dust and you need to replace it, you could use salvageable parts from the 520 for the other machine. Er, yes - but that pre-supposes that [a] I want to part with more than 130gbp for a new deck, with the non-functioning JE520 as 'parts backup' and [b] that I've have any idea of how to perform a parts replacement on the new deck should *it* fail. As far as I could tell, these slipping cogs were only accessible if one dismantled the entire transport mechanism and even then I couldn't be sure whether it was a case of worn-down plastic parts or simply a screw come loose. if you scrap electronic equipment; don't throw it in the garbage, but keep it for parts that you may use in your projects. Perhaps I didn't make this clear, but I really had no intention of merely scrapping the machine (I imagine Sony would let me have the non-functioning deck back if they couldn't fix it - or perhaps not?), I was just canvassing on the subject of Sony repairs: how long, how much, etc. Anyway, this is all rather moot now. Richer Sounds sold me a Supercare Plan (30gbp) when I took the unit in and back-dated it to June '99 - hence I got a free loan machine (a slightly shabby JE500 with no remote or coax-in, but better than nothing) and the repair will also be free of charge. The JE500 actually seems a little more robust than the JE520 (the jog dial and loading mechanism in particular). I have to say, I'm not entirely confident that the JE520, when returned, won't fail in the same way again. If I do look at a new deck, it might be a JB9x0 model. Does anyone know if these units have a sturdier transport mechanism? Regards, Mike. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs?
Wow - Richer Sounds backdated the warranty? That's bloody fantastic - did you have to haggle hard or did they just offer? Now no-one on this list will buy an extended warranty - you just wait till the thing breaks, then pay the extra! Amazing... Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Jones Sent: 27 July 2000 10:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs? --- Simon Mackay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would suggest not to scrap the 520 but to look towards buying a 530 or another secondhand 520 for your next MiniDisc deck. If a part common to either of these machines has bitten the dust and you need to replace it, you could use salvageable parts from the 520 for the other machine. Er, yes - but that pre-supposes that [a] I want to part with more than 130gbp for a new deck, with the non-functioning JE520 as 'parts backup' and [b] that I've have any idea of how to perform a parts replacement on the new deck should *it* fail. As far as I could tell, these slipping cogs were only accessible if one dismantled the entire transport mechanism and even then I couldn't be sure whether it was a case of worn-down plastic parts or simply a screw come loose. if you scrap electronic equipment; don't throw it in the garbage, but keep it for parts that you may use in your projects. Perhaps I didn't make this clear, but I really had no intention of merely scrapping the machine (I imagine Sony would let me have the non-functioning deck back if they couldn't fix it - or perhaps not?), I was just canvassing on the subject of Sony repairs: how long, how much, etc. Anyway, this is all rather moot now. Richer Sounds sold me a Supercare Plan (30gbp) when I took the unit in and back-dated it to June '99 - hence I got a free loan machine (a slightly shabby JE500 with no remote or coax-in, but better than nothing) and the repair will also be free of charge. The JE500 actually seems a little more robust than the JE520 (the jog dial and loading mechanism in particular). I have to say, I'm not entirely confident that the JE520, when returned, won't fail in the same way again. If I do look at a new deck, it might be a JB9x0 model. Does anyone know if these units have a sturdier transport mechanism? Regards, Mike. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs?
| Using it for cloning hasn't hurt my 520; at twenty-two months and a couple | weeks, it's been with me a little longer than Jonathan Irwin's has been with | him, and I hope that helps put Jonathan Davis's mind at ease. That it does. That it does. J. C. R. Davis ( j c r d @ m a i l . c o m ) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs?
--- "J. C. R. Davis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope it WAS the 80 minute MDs that did this. I am about to petition Best Buy to special order a JE520 as a replacement to my junked out JE510, and I would like to think that it will last more than a mere 13 months! I'm sure it will. There don't seem to be an awful lot of complaints about the JE5x0 series around* (unlike, say, the Sharp 7xx portables - though I own a 702 and it's a lot less trouble than the Sony deck!), which suggests that I've got a lemon (or I've *turned* it into a lemon). (* Excepting the micro-switch problem with the 500/510s). It was ill-starred from the off... I got a deck chiefly for MD-MD dubbing, easier labelling and to make digital copies with a coax input (my old Marantz has an optical out, but is prone to skipping), but as soon as I hooked up the 520 to my Copland CDP I encountered a terrible earth loop hum (not the Sony's fault, it should be said; only a minor irritation - doesn't affect the integrity of digital copies). Soon after I discovered that the analogue inputs on the 520 don't have sufficient headroom to prevent clipping from loud vinyl sources (my Ortofon MC/NVA pre-amp combination is a fair few dB above standard line-level), meaning I had to invest in an in-line attenuator. More recently, I've been getting weird drop-outs when recording to TDK Fine and coloured HiSpace discs (someone suggested the onset of optical block failure); the latter in particular are *still* faulty on playback though Sharp and JVC portables cope perfectly well with them. All indicators that I should've taken the thing back *well* before the 12-month guarantee expired. Oh well... Mike. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs?
--- "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that Mike means the cause might be recording into and reading from the additional area on 74s after 80s were cloned onto them, not the cloning itself. my cloning [...] has not involved trying to use the lead-in or lead-out spaces That's exactly what I meant, David. The failures of the transport may very well have nothing to do with my use of enhanced 74min discs; now I come to think of it, I've probably only pushed such a disc to the limit on two or three occasions (one was a deliberate test to find the maximum, another was a Creation compilation CD clocking at 79' - the TDK could only manage 78'30"). I'm resigned to being without my deck for some time after taking it into Richer Sounds tomorrow... unless anyone's got any better ideas? By the relative lack of response both here and on a.a.m, my 520 looks like a very rare example of serious mechanical failure. Mike. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs?
Mike Jones wrote, | I also have a nagging suspicion that the failure of the mech might've | been accelerated by my occasional cloning activities (those | 'enhanced' 74min discs certainly make a hell of a clunking noise when | you try to record beyond their physical limits). So - to others who | do this (and with 80min discs getting cheaper, I guess there's less | of a reason to now) - beware! Using it for cloning hasn't hurt my 520; at twenty-two months and a couple weeks, it's been with me a little longer than Jonathan Irwin's has been with him, and I hope that helps put Jonathan Davis's mind at ease. I gather that Mike means the cause might be recording into and reading from the additional area on 74s after 80s were cloned onto them, not the cloning itself. Nearly all my cloning has been for tinkering with SCMS bits or recovering deletions and has not involved trying to use the lead-in or lead-out spaces, and it has done no damange to my 520. The nice thing about the 520 -- and perhaps other machines, but I know of none -- is that in RCD mode the exact address shows during division, so a user can divide a track exactly on a cluster boundary. That's invaluable for reassembling fragments when one recovers a heavily edited disc or for pin- pointing the end of the written area when one recovers a partly filled disc. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs?
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, J. C. R. Davis wrote: I hope it WAS the 80 minute MDs that did this. I am about to petition Best Buy to special order a JE520 as a replacement to my junked out JE510, and I would like to think that it will last more than a mere 13 months! I've had mine for 16 months now and it's still working fine. No problems so far. They might only be able to get a JE530 now though. Jonathan - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: JE520 transport mech repairs?
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000, Jonathan Irwin wrote: I've had mine for 16 months now and it's still working fine. No problems so far. They might only be able to get a JE530 now though. Oops... I seem to have forgotten how to add up. Actually I've had it 20 months. Jonathan - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
