Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
| I agree. By now we all know where his site is, if we're looking for | deals, we'll go there. I've been thinking of unsubscribing because of | this and the controversy that's ensued. Hang in there. All of this will eventually pass. I promise. (It better.) /jcrd - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
[replying to two posts to save space] Not meaning to offend but please stop posting with coupons for some US-based (and US-only) online shopping company. I'm just guessing here, but the number of US-based list subscribers is probably lower than you think and the number of those that actually care about the coupons will be significantly lower. I think that you are wrong about that. Any thought go into that, or is it a generic Yank "Rest of the world? We ARE the world!" comment? :-) I said I was guessing, and I notice a lot of non-US email addresses. Remember too that .com/.org/.net don't belong to the US - people living in many other countries use them too (in fact, the MD-L is hosted at the London-based amulation.com). To all these non-US people, posts about coupons are useless if they couldn't use them anyway. As someone else suggested, set up a separate list of your own for those that _want_ to recieve your coupon mails and leave the MD-L for actual MD discussion. It will never happen. This is a non censored list (at least that's what Rick W. recent told me). If you see Peter's name when you receive your e mail, just press the delete button. Also, isn't there a way to filter out e mail addresses you don't want to receive on many browses? It was a _suggestion_ for Peter to sort out a method that would be better for all parties - those on the MD-L that don't want to get coupon mailings every other day won't, those that want them do. It wasn't meant to be read as an intention of censorship - the list is unmoderated and so it should stay. Doing what you suggest (filtering by address) _would_ mean that many people stop reading what Peter has to say, which would be a shame. I disagree and encourage Peter to let us know when there are real super deals happening like $15 off on $25 and NO SHIPPING. You may have some magic source for getting blanks, but I know I don't and when I can get 80 minute blanks for less than $1.40, I want to know about it. So why not find out via a separate list or just by going to his coupon page? If people want to complain about things that are not available in their country fine. It was just a minor inconvenience, but if people want to be like that, I am sick and tired of hearing about all of the specials that they are running at Riches or what ever it is called, in the UK. I'll explain the reasons for my "complaint" (well, more of an informal suggestion to change something): - The number of coupon posts has gone up significantly - over the last 2 weeks, there's been one every other day. - These coupons are from, and for, a commercial company that Peter is financially involved with (at least, that's what I infer from him having a "store" there), which goes against the non-commercial nature of lists like this. It's pretty simple - Peter sends his coupons mails to as many people as possible, some of them buy stuff from him via the coupons, he makes money. When a list member points out a particularly good deal on something, they're not profiting from it. Incidentally, the last time Richer Sounds was mentioned on the MD-l was back in July, and that was a request for comments on a Pioneer unit that they were selling (and that's sold worldwide). The last post about an offer they were doing was 7th June. There's also a separate UK MD list, where such country-specific stuff gets discussed. As I've said to Peter before - the best way to promote your business on non-commercial community lists is to follow the Core Sound example; act as a normal list member and contribute with sound advice wherever possible. Post from a company email account and include a short sig with your URL and maybe a line with your current offer, but leave it at that. Associate your company with in-depth knowledge and sound advice and you'll have no problems. Spamming coupons every other day, like constant TV ads, are the quickest way to annoy people. I don't think that any of what I've said sounds unreasonable - I just think that Peter's system would work a lot better if he was in direct contact with those that _want_ to receive his coupon mails. -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
At 08:44 09/23/2000, you wrote: I don't think that any of what I've said sounds unreasonable - I just think that Peter's system would work a lot better if he was in direct contact with those that _want_ to receive his coupon mails. I second that... I've kept my mouth shut this whole time and simply deleting all his messages but frankly, seeing "Peter Forest" in my "From" field is really starting to piss the hell out of me because I know it's gonna be another "hey guys, look what I've found" message which, in actuality, is a very thinly veiled disguise for ad for his shop. In what, 4 years? I haven't seen ANYONE else spam this ML with ads like he has. Albert - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
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Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
I second that... I've kept my mouth shut this whole time and simply deleting all his messages but frankly, seeing "Peter Forest" in my "From" field is really starting to piss the hell out of me I "third" that. Oh and while at it, Peter PLEASE edit your messages! Your usual 40+ lines of useless quotes are getting pretty unnerving. I don't have anything against you and your non-ad posts, but just consider the fact that your mail is ending in quite a few mailboxes all over the world, and that most of us already get enough unwanted ads/spam. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 04:26:02AM +0200, Michael Stouffs wrote: I second that... I've kept my mouth shut this whole time and simply deleting all his messages but frankly, seeing "Peter Forest" in my "From" field is really starting to piss the hell out of me I "third" that. I agree. By now we all know where his site is, if we're looking for deals, we'll go there. I've been thinking of unsubscribing because of this and the controversy that's ensued. BTW, I know I'm a new guy and mostly just lurk, so maybe I don't contribute and my opinion doesn't matter to some of you. So before you write me back and go "Good, maybe you should just leave," I already realize that, so no need to waste more bandwidth. :) Laters, Brian -- The 21st century begins on January 1, 2001. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
At 16:59 22/09/2000 -0400, you wrote: I told you, we have to be faster then buy it online ! If we act fast, since they are slow a lot of people will be able to take advantage of this coupon... Peter, Not meaning to offend but please stop posting with coupons for some US-based (and US-only) online shopping company. I'm just guessing here, but the number of US-based list subscribers is probably lower than you think and the number of those that actually care about the coupons will be significantly lower. As someone else suggested, set up a separate list of your own for those that _want_ to recieve your coupon mails and leave the MD-L for actual MD discussion. Your repeated commercial postings were just mildly irritating - I understand that you're running an MD-based business and it's good that you have such enthusiasm for the format, but acting like a buyitonline spam machine is very annoying. It'd be a shame if I filtered out all of your posts, you do also post good on-topic stuff sometimes.. -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
Simon Gardner wrote: Peter, Not meaning to offend but please stop posting with coupons for some US-based (and US-only) online shopping company. I'm just guessing here, but the number of US-based list subscribers is probably lower than you think and the number of those that actually care about the coupons will be significantly lower. I think that you are wrong about that. As someone else suggested, set up a separate list of your own for those that _want_ to recieve your coupon mails and leave the MD-L for actual MD discussion. It will never happen. This is a non censored list (at least that's what Rick W. recent told me). If you see Peter's name when you receive your e mail, just press the delete button. Also, isn't there a way to filter out e mail addresses you don't want to receive on many browses? Your repeated commercial postings were just mildly irritating - I understand that you're running an MD-based business and it's good that you have such enthusiasm for the format, but acting like a buyitonline spam machine is very annoying. I disagree and encourage Peter to let us know when there are real super deals happening like $15 off on $25 and NO SHIPPING. You may have some magic source for getting blanks, but I know I don't and when I can get 80 minute blanks for less than $1.40, I want to know about it. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
Thanks Larry... I really appreciate your words... When I got deal for only a day or two I prefer to inform the most people as possible... Peter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of las Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long ! Simon Gardner wrote: Peter, Not meaning to offend but please stop posting with coupons for some US-based (and US-only) online shopping company. I'm just guessing here, but the number of US-based list subscribers is probably lower than you think and the number of those that actually care about the coupons will be significantly lower. I think that you are wrong about that. As someone else suggested, set up a separate list of your own for those that _want_ to recieve your coupon mails and leave the MD-L for actual MD discussion. It will never happen. This is a non censored list (at least that's what Rick W. recent told me). If you see Peter's name when you receive your e mail, just press the delete button. Also, isn't there a way to filter out e mail addresses you don't want to receive on many browses? Your repeated commercial postings were just mildly irritating - I understand that you're running an MD-based business and it's good that you have such enthusiasm for the format, but acting like a buyitonline spam machine is very annoying. I disagree and encourage Peter to let us know when there are real super deals happening like $15 off on $25 and NO SHIPPING. You may have some magic source for getting blanks, but I know I don't and when I can get 80 minute blanks for less than $1.40, I want to know about it. Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
I'm sorry for this... but I received more than 75 email from people on the list that like the coupons I post... I'm sorry to offend you but it's not everyone who want to receive email from many sources... A lot of customer want only to receive the MD list stuff and told me that I'm doing great by advertise these great deals... When it's only deals for 1 day or 2 days, I think it's a good thing to advertise as many people as possible... Regards, Pierre. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Simon Gardner Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 7:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long ! At 16:59 22/09/2000 -0400, you wrote: I told you, we have to be faster then buy it online ! If we act fast, since they are slow a lot of people will be able to take advantage of this coupon... Peter, Not meaning to offend but please stop posting with coupons for some US-based (and US-only) online shopping company. I'm just guessing here, but the number of US-based list subscribers is probably lower than you think and the number of those that actually care about the coupons will be significantly lower. As someone else suggested, set up a separate list of your own for those that _want_ to recieve your coupon mails and leave the MD-L for actual MD discussion. Your repeated commercial postings were just mildly irritating - I understand that you're running an MD-based business and it's good that you have such enthusiasm for the format, but acting like a buyitonline spam machine is very annoying. It'd be a shame if I filtered out all of your posts, you do also post good on-topic stuff sometimes.. -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Ok I got another one, but again, MOVE FAST it won't last very long !
Peter Forest wrote: I'm sorry for this... but I received more than 75 email from people on the list that like the coupons I post... I'm sorry to offend you but it's not everyone who want to receive email from many sources... A lot of customer want only to receive the MD list stuff and told me that I'm doing great by advertise these great deals... When it's only deals for 1 day or 2 days, I think it's a good thing to advertise as many people as possible... Regards, Pierre. Pierre, There are some people who appreciate getting a great deal ($15 off of $25 and no shipping charge is as close as you can get to free as I can think of). I don't know any other place where I could have gotten the items that I got for that low a price, thanks to you. Even when I sold MDs, it would have cost me more and my boss sold me everything at his cost plus shipping (I knew all of his costs since I often set the selling prices. So I know that is what I was paying). If people want to complain about things that are not available in their country fine. It was just a minor inconvenience, but if people want to be like that, I am sick and tired of hearing about all of the specials that they are running at Riches or what ever it is called, in the UK. There must be several posts a month about something for sale in the UK or Aust. It really never bothered me, I just pressed delete. But if someone want's to make a big fuss about it, than what goes around comes around. I am willing to bet that the number of people from the US on this list that post from time to time are at least 10 times that of people from other countries. I noticed that it was only one person who complained. I have never heard any one from the US complain about all of the posts from other countries. Until all of the countries in the free world realize that we now live in a Global economy, we are going to be stuck with things like this happening. Sooner or later, thanks to the internet, all these countries are going to have to realize that things have changed. Just as many of the countries in Europe have adapted the CE standards, countries like the US and Canada and Japan are going to have to come around. It is a joke that is safe for people to use Viagra in the US, but not in Japan!!! (It's approved by the US FDA but wasn't approved by Japan's equivalent. Just as MD recorders made in Japan are perfectly safe for people in Japan to use, but are not "safe" for American's to use. Come on, give me a break!!! None of this makes any sense!!! Sooner or later the world is going to have to realize that with the presence of the internet, international standards are going to have to be put in place. An other example is PayPal.com. It is currently not approved for use in countries outside of the US. If someone sees something this is for sale from someone in the US on Ebay and they ar not from the US, they have to use an international money order or Bidpay.com. What's wrong with Bidpay??? it costs a small fortune and PayPal is FREE. Everyone have a great weekend, Larry - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
