Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
In a message dated 6/19/2005 2:02:54 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an NA 300D (Euro 1984) engine in my ex-240D. It goes fairly well here in Los Alamos, New Mexico, but it doesn't have an ADA. Craig, it will either have an ADA (pressure chamber) or a manual screw adjustment in place of the ADA. Only 74 and earlier diesels (the ones with butterfly plates in the inlets) did not have ADAs, to my knowledge Look again, please, and tell us what's on the top of your IP at the rear. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 136 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Refinish / Document for Article
I read the article and used the ideas to do a set of wheels. Since I am a cheap SOB and impatient to boot, the came out O.K. but nothing to write home about. Unless it is to enumerate all the things not to do On Saturday, June 18, 2005, at 07:56 PM, Royce Engler wrote: John...if you are out there, I tried the link below and got a 404...Did you get around to doing your wheels? Thanks!! Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Peterson Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DIESEL] Wheel Refinish / Document for Article I had posted the original promise to post photos of the entire wheel process, but my car has been in for a tranny rebuilt for months and I haven't had a chance to touch the wheels. Here is a link to the article: http://autopia.org/kb/index.php?page=index_v2id=28c=18 John Peterson Kingston RI 91 300D 69k 2nd Rebuilt MB transmission in 2 months tomorrow. Wish me luck. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
[MBZ] Pop's day list o' car
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/79607600.html -- 116 300SD $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/79541694.html -92 300D 2.5 $7k http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/79629276.html -- 15 rims http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/79580376.html --73 450SE parts http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/79560147.html --$200 engine '88 V6 there were a few more cars up, but seen them or such overpriced turds, not worth wasting bandwidth on them. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Pricing a 240 for sale
thread a few weeks ago about the 240D Rusty was selling for a ... another person. Totally perfect, needs nothing, sweet chariot=$4000. Much discussion about market value of a 240D ensues. Most people feel between $500 and $999. Others think $50, because who wants a rusted out 240, too slow to get out of its own way? #1 condition 240 should be able to get that $4000 #2 condition much less than $4000 20 footer is lucky at $500 my $0.02 On Sunday, June 19, 2005, at 05:50 AM, Schisler, Gary wrote: Can anyone shed light on the appropriate price range for a nice 79 240D? I may be selling mine but I can't for the life of me put a value on it. None of the appropriate sources really seem to work for 26 year old diesels. This car has been in our family since new so I am afraid that I might try to put some emotional value in it. Any ideas? If you don't want to comment on pricing/valuing on line, email me off line. Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Pricing a 240 for sale
IM selling my 420 sel for 2000.00 it has 186000 miles on it but a rebuilt engine with 8 new brakes new timing belt and water pump and rebuilt tranny i got a new one that why IM selling it 773-895-1871
Re: [MBZ]A 420sel for sale
charcoal gray with gray leather IM selling my 420 sel for 2000.00 it has 186000 miles on it but a rebuilt engine with 8 new brakes new timing belt and water pump and rebuilt tranny i got a new one that why IM selling it773-895-1871
Re: [MBZ] Pricing a 240 for sale
what year? Got any pics? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IM selling my 420 sel for 2000.00 it has 186000 miles on it but a rebuilt engine with 8 new brakes new timing belt and water pump and rebuilt tranny i got a new one that why IM selling it 773-895-1871 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net . -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] ADMIN, offtopic posts
OK folks, time for a reminder. Since all of the lists have been combined into one list here, we have many more people that we did before. Therefor, when offtopic posts come up, we really need to start putting OFFTOPIC, OT or something like that in the subject line so people who have no interest in them can delete them. Offtopic posts are fine from time to time, but when then do come up, need to clearly mark them. And also, not get too carried away with them Thanks, Kaleb -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 420 FOIR SALE
I will give you $1200 for it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1988 VERY CLEAN NO BUT MAYBE TOMORROW ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net . -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 420 FOIR SALE
yep. OK, $1450 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOPE TOO NICE OF A CAR AREN'T U IN OK ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net . -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D for sale
hopefully very negotiable, no, I am not joking, yes, its probably worth more than 500 Sunil Hari wrote: Selling the 300D - 144Kmi, 2nd owner, silver-blue exterior, blue MB-Tex interior, totally up to spec on maintenance, full records. Everything works (incl. ACC and cruise control) but the A/C (converted to R134) needs a recharge. Some rust on the left rear fender. I'm asking $3200, but that's negotiable. Kaleb, I will not take $500 for it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
RE: [MBZ] hearing protection [OT]
Hmm-well I drive mine 140 miles RT commuting 2-3 days a week. You may have a point there. I have been thinking about a new hood pad. Dwight Giles, Jr. 1979 240D auto, 243K+ miles Wickford RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laurence MacNeill Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 2:10 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: RE: [MBZ] hearing protection [OT] At 03:05 PM 6/19/2005, you wrote: Loud activities-like driving your 240D? I have considered wearing them in mine. If I were going on a long road-trip, I would definitely do it... That thing is loud on the highway... But for regular every-day driving it's not bad... Once you get above about 50 MPH, the engine noise is quite significant, yes... It's enough to bother me after 20 or 30 minutes -- which is why I avoid taking it on the highway whenever possible... Laurence MacNeill Mableton, GA 1980 240D (Automatic Transmission, A/C) 206,000+ miles -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
John Ervine wrote: Royce Engler wrote: Terminology check...is ADA the same as ALDA? Sorta. ADA = Atmosphärendruckabhängiger Volllastanschlag Which roughly means atmospheric pressure compensation. ALDA = Atmosphärische Ladedruckanpassung Which roughly means atmospheric pressure and charge-air compensation. In simpler terms, an ADA provides fuel enrichment on non-turbo cars, while an ALDA provides fuel enrichment on turbo cars. NOT quite. The ADA reduces fuel as atmospheric pressure goes down. The purpose is to prevent smoking and still maintain maximum power possible at higher altitudes. It does NOT enrich anything, it reduces fuel as air pressure drops but keeping the fuel level at the maximum value that the available air can completely burn. An ALDA also reduces fuel as air pressure drops, BUT since the turbo raises air pressure and the way it's calibrated, the most usual ALDA action is to enrich fuel. Theoretically the ADA could do the same thing, BUT it and the pump are constructed and calibrated so that maximum fuel output is at about sea level and it does nothing but reduce fuel output as pressure drops. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] 420 FOIR SALE
ROTFLMAO! Actually, Kaleb is a bit hard of hearing. You sometimes have to shout to get his attention. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the left side of your keyboard is a key that says CapsLock Press it once. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DARK GRAY LIGHT GRAY INTERIOR ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. There is nothing WRONG with those oils (or the Wal-Mart house brqand oil), but they are FAR inferior to Delvac 1300 or Delo 400 (and not that much cheaper). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
So what makes them inferior assuming they have all the same ratings otherwise? Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. There is nothing WRONG with those oils (or the Wal-Mart house brqand oil), but they are FAR inferior to Delvac 1300 or Delo 400 (and not that much cheaper). Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 420 FOIR SALE
just ask Regina. Steve MacSween wrote: ROTFLMAO! Actually, Kaleb is a bit hard of hearing. You sometimes have to shout to get his attention. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the left side of your keyboard is a key that says CapsLock Press it once. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DARK GRAY LIGHT GRAY INTERIOR ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:50:41 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/19/2005 2:02:54 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an NA 300D (Euro 1984) engine in my ex-240D. It goes fairly well here in Los Alamos, New Mexico, but it doesn't have an ADA. Craig, it will either have an ADA (pressure chamber) or a manual screw adjustment in place of the ADA. Only 74 and earlier diesels (the ones with butterfly plates in the inlets) did not have ADAs, to my knowledge Look again, please, and tell us what's on the top of your IP at the rear. Since several people have commented, I've attached a picture to this email (I did, however, reduce its size before attaching it). I took this an other pictures when I had the pump out for checking by the Bosch service center in Albuquerque and the injectors out for rebuilding. The cylinderical object at the top with the tube fitting is the vacuum shutoff. The bolt at the rear top is the idle speed adjustment. Craig
[MBZ] Re: Wheel Refinish
As an aside to the shipping costs, Griots has opened a warehouse closer to the east coast for that exact reason. If you check on shipping again (since Jan 05) it should be much lower now. For those of us who live 4 miles from their HQ, we can still pick up with no shipping. Ken In a message dated 6/19/2005 8:34:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Refinish / Document for Article To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I got the Griots wheel package. Really a great product. they include everything you need to clean and paint (after you remove the old paint) alloys. I spent $85 ($58 for the package and the rest shipping) There is a zinc primer, then the color, then clear. Enough rattle can paint to do all four. Also included is the cleaner/prep and a degreaser. The instruction sheet is professionally printed and other glossy four color sales stuff. As a bonus I got a free bottle of speed shine. When I did my wheels I decided to use the set the blaster pitted by using Garnet sand, instead of glass or walnut to remove paint. For those I chose the auto parts store rattle can method. Took a large primer can, two color cans and two clear coats May have cost all of $20
Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
Since several people have commented, I've attached a picture to this email (I did, however, reduce its size before attaching it). I took this an other pictures when I had the pump out for checking by the Bosch service center in Albuquerque and the injectors out for rebuilding. The cylinderical object at the top with the tube fitting is the vacuum shutoff. The bolt at the rear top is the idle speed adjustment. Well, I did attach a picture, but the list now has a 40 kB limit, so Kaleb has to approve the sending of the picture. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D for sale
Where is your location Bill 1981 300 TD Sunil Hari wrote: Selling the 300D - 144Kmi, 2nd owner, silver-blue exterior, blue MB-Tex interior, totally up to spec on maintenance, full records. Everything works (incl. ACC and cruise control) but the A/C (converted to R134) needs a recharge. Some rust on the left rear fender. I'm asking $3200, but that's negotiable. Kaleb, I will not take $500 for it.
Re: [MBZ] Shake down trip - Dodge/Cummins
Did you notice any KDP parties being scheduled on TDR? A KDP party, good idea. I would probably be much more willing to tear into somebody else's engine after 30 or 40 beers and a nice BBQed steak :-) Actually after reading about the procedure it sounds like getting the fan shroud is the toughest part. Steve Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shake down trip - Dodge/Cummins Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 12:30:38 -0400 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Message: 2 Van Cleve wrote: I think I will find someone to do the wire feed, spot weld on the 5th gear nut and the KDP fix also as I'm not quite up to digging that far into the Cummins at this point. Did you notice any KDP parties being scheduled on TDR? That's a great way to spend a Saturday: fire up the BBQ, meet face to face with some online friends, and tear the front ends off a few trucks. After the first truck or two, it should go quite smoothly. Mitch.
[MBZ] OM603--minor IP attachment oil leaks
Listers, I'm planning soon to RR the intake manifold on my '87 300D to replace the glow plugs and also do all the standard wear items that become easily accessible when one has the intake off an OM603. I notice that I have two minor oil leaks down the side of the IP, one of which seems to be coming from the vicinity of the large (17mm or so) nut where the STOP lever attaches to the IP. The other leak is from the threads of a cylindrical doohickey screwed into the top of the IP, just inboard of the vacuum shutoff unit and in front of the ALDA, with a large black electrical connector on top. Do these sound like common oil leakage points, or should I look harder for leaks somewhere else? If the leaks are where they think they are, how do I stop them (while I have the intake off making access easy)? I don't see any kind of gasket, o-ring, or seal that could be worn and need replacement where either assembly attaches to the IP. Or do I just live with them and count myself lucky that the engine doesn't leak anywhere else? ;) Thanks, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300D Turbo '01 VW Beetle TDI
Re: [MBZ] OT: Diesel truck
On Sat, Jun 18, 2005 at 12:25:01PM -0500, OK Don wrote: This one looks interesting -- Chevy dually with Cummins enigine. That's essentially what I'm going to make out of the 88 K30 crew cab dually I ended up with. Mine is an automatic, so as much as I despise automatics in trucks (have three now though), it will most likely remain an automatic. I have a few projects that need to get taken care of before that one begins, but it should replace the powerchoke for towing duties rather effectively. K
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D for sale
Nope, not slower than a 240D - replaced the fuel filters and now it's in the 18-20 sec range. On 6/19/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the one that's slower than a 240D? On 6/19/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: Selling the 300D - 144Kmi, 2nd owner, silver-blue exterior, blue MB-Tex interior, totally up to spec on maintenance, full records. Everything works (incl. ACC and cruise control) but the A/C (converted to R134) needs a recharge. Some rust on the left rear fender. I'm asking $3200, but that's negotiable. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D for sale
Is that for 0-60 or a 1/4 mile? Andy On 6/20/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, not slower than a 240D - replaced the fuel filters and now it's in the 18-20 sec range. On 6/19/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the one that's slower than a 240D? On 6/19/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: Selling the 300D - 144Kmi, 2nd owner, silver-blue exterior, blue MB-Tex interior, totally up to spec on maintenance, full records. Everything works (incl. ACC and cruise control) but the A/C (converted to R134) needs a recharge. Some rust on the left rear fender. I'm asking $3200, but that's negotiable. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
RE: [MBZ] Mobil 1 Update...
Yeah, but did you save a bundle on your insurance? Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Royce Engler Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 9:42 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 Update... It's been about a month since I switched to Mobil 1. Thought I'd put out an update. I've seen almost no oil consumption, and he doesn't seem to be marking his territory near as much as before. I did a valve adjustment today and was amazed at how much less leakage there was out the oil filler cap. In addition to that, my grass is greener than I've ever seen it, my roses are blooming constantly, and my wife says I look like I've lost weight...GRIN On another subject, with the advent of Father's Day and the acquisition of a new Craftsman Shop Vac, I'm about to assemble the mother of all oil suckers. My 22 year old Craftsman Shop Vac bit the dust about the time I switched to M1 (got it to run again, but it was spitting out pieces of black plastic). I'm going to use the old shop vac carcass as the oil collection receptacle, connect the old vacuum hose to the new Shop Vac and run a 1/2 hose fitting off of the top of the old Shop Vac as the suction line. Pix to follow. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
RE: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
Kaleb, The oil is probably made by one of the big guys and branded for sale to the farming communities. How much can you save by purchasing in 5 gallon pails? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] another stupid oil question OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. Think they have both 15W40 and 15W50, 15W50 seems to be the most common though. Reason I ask is they sell the stuff in big 5 gal buckets, with my fleet of cars thinking about buying that and tranny fluid in bulk. They sell pumps that fit on the top of the can. So, what do you all think about these brands? I have seen this stuff all over the place in the farming areas but dont think I have used it before. For dino I usually use either delvac 1300 or the wal-mart diesel oil which seems pretty good, as all the diesel ratings etc. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] OT, Why don't I get attachments?
To All I get messages with a paper clip showing next to the message in the upper part of Outlook Express, but no paper clip to click on in the message section. Any help for me? Thanks, Harry Watkins 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA? On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:50:41 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/19/2005 2:02:54 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an NA 300D (Euro 1984) engine in my ex-240D. It goes fairly well here in Los Alamos, New Mexico, but it doesn't have an ADA. Craig, it will either have an ADA (pressure chamber) or a manual screw adjustment in place of the ADA. Only 74 and earlier diesels (the ones with butterfly plates in the inlets) did not have ADAs, to my knowledge Look again, please, and tell us what's on the top of your IP at the rear. Since several people have commented, I've attached a picture to this email (I did, however, reduce its size before attaching it). I took this an other pictures when I had the pump out for checking by the Bosch service center in Albuquerque and the injectors out for rebuilding. The cylinderical object at the top with the tube fitting is the vacuum shutoff. The bolt at the rear top is the idle speed adjustment. Craig ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D for sale
Andrew Cunningham wrote: Is that for 0-60 or a 1/4 mile? Probably both. ;-)
RE: [MBZ] Dragging brake mystery
And your 'mechanic could not figure this out? Fire him/them! Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 2:23 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dragging brake mystery Fmiser wrote: How about the parking brake? A rusty cable can cause that problem. I've got one right now that need such help. Yup. Everyone who said parking brake gets a prize. The problem must have started a few weeks ago, when I tested the parking brake and found it didn't hold. It turns out it didn't fully release, either. I discovered today that the cable to the pedal had a big bow in it where it had released, but the equalizer bar had stayed put. Once I figured that out, I crawled underneath and pounded the equalizer bar with a hammer until it was somewhere close to the released position. The left rear is still dragging a bit more than I'd like, though, so I may have to smack it a bit more, or cut the cable. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] ADA or lack thereof on Euro IP
Jim Friesen wrote: Craig, it will either have an ADA (pressure chamber) or a manual screw adjustment in place of the ADA. Only 74 and earlier diesels (the ones with butterfly plates in the inlets) did not have ADAs, to my knowledge Look again, please, and tell us what's on the top of your IP at the rear. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 136 K miles Jim and others, I'd love to hear the answer to this, as I've got a Euro NA 617.912, and there appears to be no such adjustment on my car. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR 85 300TD 320k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 147k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC Most men would rather die, than think. Many do. Bertrand Russell
[MBZ] Re: another stupid oil question
Inferior dinosaur stock. There was a little inbreeding, some rumors about May / December stuff and other things that caused the area to get a bad reputation. After the Dino's had died they went in and found evidence of porn, group sex and other degradation. All in all a bad gene pool to be getting oil from. Now the much better oil comes from places with higher breeding, not some seedy little hick town. YTTIC Ken In a message dated 6/20/2005 4:42:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed So what makes them inferior assuming they have all the same ratings otherwise? Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. There is nothing WRONG with those oils (or the Wal-Mart house brqand oil), but they are FAR inferior to Delvac 1300 or Delo 400 (and not that much cheaper). Marshall
Re: [MBZ] Dragging brake mystery
Potter, Tom E wrote: And your 'mechanic could not figure this out? Fire him/them! It wasn't a real mechanic, just a brake tire shop. But I think I'll be going elsewhere in the future. This is also the shop that told me the reason my Volvo vibrated at speed was because all my rims were out of round. Funny, it didn't vibrate before they put new tires on it...
Re: [MBZ] Pop's day list o' car - Midwest cars
redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/79560147.html --$200 engine '88 V6 I think that Merc engine is probably Mercury, especially being a V6. Here's the Midwest entries: CANDY'S 420SEL: http://chicago.craigslist.org/car/79754865.html 1985 380SE, 150kmi, $10,000 http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/car/77228247.html 1973 Green 220 (is this 114 or 115?) only $11,500 http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/79034980.html 1985 380SL, both tops, $4500 (see, there's one reasonably priced car in Michigan) http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/7817.html 1998 E300D W210 turbo, 30kmi, 19,500 (I'd rather have Mauri's superturbo wagon) (and who buys a diesel to drive 4,000 miles a year?) http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/78979856.html 1987 190E 2.3 93kmi, needs A/C, $1500 http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/79231157.html Hey, Sunil, somebody wants to buy a diesel car: http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/77858899.html 2003 S500 4x4 $45,000 http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/79006591.html 1994 C280, undisclosed hwy miles, $6k http://chicago.craigslist.org/car/79636439.html 1990 190E 2.6 152k, $2800 http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/car/78670179.html
Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
It has always had that limit. Craig McCluskey wrote: Since several people have commented, I've attached a picture to this email (I did, however, reduce its size before attaching it). I took this an other pictures when I had the pump out for checking by the Bosch service center in Albuquerque and the injectors out for rebuilding. The cylinderical object at the top with the tube fitting is the vacuum shutoff. The bolt at the rear top is the idle speed adjustment. Well, I did attach a picture, but the list now has a 40 kB limit, so Kaleb has to approve the sending of the picture. Craig ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Nice-looking 123 sighted
I would've thought her interior would be more pink than palamino... Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 6/19/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw a girl in a 1984 300CD yesterday - maroon exterior, palomino interior, no rust. Purty. So was the car.
Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:28:51 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after they are approved then they go thru, but they are initially held. So are you going to approve my 48 kB message? Craig
Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
If I get it, I have not seen anything on it as far as I know. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:28:51 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after they are approved then they go thru, but they are initially held. So are you going to approve my 48 kB message? Craig ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Favorable A-Class Review
David Brodbeck wrote: Schisler, Gary wrote: Why the fascination? Because it has the POTENTIAL to be a smog free fuel, renewable and, a clean burning fuel. The downside, of course, is that it takes more energy to generate H2 that it produces. It is more expensive than gasoline or diesel but the possibilities are huge. I envision a breakthrough in 10-20 years that will make it commercially viable. I think the breakthrough would have to come in the form of some abundant, cheap source of electrical power to use to electrolyse the stuff... Abundant, cheap and clean would be the ticket. Hydrogen produced using an abundant, dirty source of electrical power could create as much if not more pollution than the gasoline it displaced. Lee ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
call the marketer, they might tell you Hank - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question IIRC its about 30 or so for a 5 gal bucket. I know for sure I will probably buy the tranny fluid but have not decided on the oil. Wish there was a way to tell who made the oil, what was in it etc, how it compares to the others. Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, The oil is probably made by one of the big guys and branded for sale to the farming communities. How much can you save by purchasing in 5 gallon pails? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] another stupid oil question OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. Think they have both 15W40 and 15W50, 15W50 seems to be the most common though. Reason I ask is they sell the stuff in big 5 gal buckets, with my fleet of cars thinking about buying that and tranny fluid in bulk. They sell pumps that fit on the top of the can. So, what do you all think about these brands? I have seen this stuff all over the place in the farming areas but dont think I have used it before. For dino I usually use either delvac 1300 or the wal-mart diesel oil which seems pretty good, as all the diesel ratings etc. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Adsit Company?
I believe that would be Silver Star Transmissions. They do rebuilds mostly for the trade. I sold them a couple of cores two years ago. Seemed to be nice, very knowledgeable guys. Gary Thompson 1994 E320 1984 300D The Curse On 6/17/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is the fellow in Edmund, OK? He advertised in the Star when the trans in the POS SDL was changed. He picked up the core from the shop in Guthrie. Seems to do benz transmissions. No idea what he charges for rebuilt though
RE: [MBZ] Dragging brake mystery
I am usually disappointed by the level of expertise a the specialty chain stores. I took my VW Karmann Ghia to a Jiffy Lube to get the transmission oil changed, and I had to show them how to do it. I guess they don't get paid enough to think. :) Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:11 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dragging brake mystery Potter, Tom E wrote: And your 'mechanic could not figure this out? Fire him/them! It wasn't a real mechanic, just a brake tire shop. But I think I'll be going elsewhere in the future. This is also the shop that told me the reason my Volvo vibrated at speed was because all my rims were out of round. Funny, it didn't vibrate before they put new tires on it... ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] OT - hearing protection
---C-141 passenger chewed ear plugs. He was a civilian contractor. Wilton, LtCol, USAF, Ret.
Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:50:41 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/19/2005 2:02:54 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an NA 300D (Euro 1984) engine in my ex-240D. It goes fairly well here in Los Alamos, New Mexico, but it doesn't have an ADA. Craig, it will either have an ADA (pressure chamber) or a manual screw adjustment in place of the ADA. Only 74 and earlier diesels (the ones with butterfly plates in the inlets) did not have ADAs, to my knowledge Look again, please, and tell us what's on the top of your IP at the rear. Since several people have commented, I've attached a picture to this email (I did, however, reduce its size before attaching it). I took this an other pictures when I had the pump out for checking by the Bosch service center in Albuquerque and the injectors out for rebuilding. The cylinderical object at the top with the tube fitting is the vacuum shutoff. The bolt at the rear top is the idle speed adjustment. Craig attachment: Euro.injection.pump.jpg
Re: [MBZ] OT, Why don't I get attachments?
Gmail ! Gmail ! Gmail ! Gmail ! Gmail ! Gmail ! Gmail ! Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 6/20/05, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't take this wrong, but the best help I can recommend is to eschew the use of MS Outlook and MS Internet Explorer. They haven't been found to cause cancer, YET, but they have been found to be buggy, bloated, virus-prone and short on security. Try the Mozilla internet suite. Its free, open-source, comes with a built-in pop-up blocker, an HTML editor and an e-mail client. It is not a virus-magnet like the M$ equivalents. The only downside is that perhaps one website in a thousand detects the browser type and will give you an error stating that you MUST use M$ Internet Explorer to view the page. This error is a sign that the web designer has shite for brains and is no reflection on the Mozilla browser (apologies in advance to any shite-for-brains web designers who are offended by this post.) Regards, Lee Harry Watkins wrote: To All I get messages with a paper clip showing next to the message in the upper part of Outlook Express, but no paper clip to click on in the message section. Any help for me? Thanks, Harry Watkins 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA? On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 19:50:41 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/19/2005 2:02:54 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an NA 300D (Euro 1984) engine in my ex-240D. It goes fairly well here in Los Alamos, New Mexico, but it doesn't have an ADA. Craig, it will either have an ADA (pressure chamber) or a manual screw adjustment in place of the ADA. Only 74 and earlier diesels (the ones with butterfly plates in the inlets) did not have ADAs, to my knowledge Look again, please, and tell us what's on the top of your IP at the rear. Since several people have commented, I've attached a picture to this email (I did, however, reduce its size before attaching it). I took this an other pictures when I had the pump out for checking by the Bosch service center in Albuquerque and the injectors out for rebuilding. The cylinderical object at the top with the tube fitting is the vacuum shutoff. The bolt at the rear top is the idle speed adjustment. Craig ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Quiet 123
That's fiberglass INSULATION under and inside rear seat and backrest. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
In a message dated 6/20/2005 6:56:50 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The cylinderical object at the top with the tube fitting is the vacuum shutoff. The bolt at the rear top is the idle speed adjustment. Craig, Finally got the picture, very clear by the way, and the vacuum shutoff is right where the ADA should be. I have seen several Euro engines but never one like this. Don, is yours like this too? Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 136 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Re: another stupid oil question
There was probably dancing involved too. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inferior dinosaur stock. There was a little inbreeding, some rumors about May / December stuff and other things that caused the area to get a bad reputation. After the Dino's had died they went in and found evidence of porn, group sex and other degradation. All in all a bad gene pool to be getting oil from. Now the much better oil comes from places with higher breeding, not some seedy little hick town. YTTIC Ken In a message dated 6/20/2005 4:42:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed So what makes them inferior assuming they have all the same ratings otherwise? Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. There is nothing WRONG with those oils (or the Wal-Mart house brqand oil), but they are FAR inferior to Delvac 1300 or Delo 400 (and not that much cheaper). Marshall ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
My euro m617 has the same pump. There is no ada. The euro 240d also has the same pump, just minus one cylinder. Mathieu Cama 240D 3.0 euro conversion running WVO www.oldworldauto.com In a message dated 6/20/2005 6:56:50 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The cylinderical object at the top with the tube fitting is the vacuum shutoff. The bolt at the rear top is the idle speed adjustment. Craig, Finally got the picture, very clear by the way, and the vacuum shutoff is right where the ADA should be. I have seen several Euro engines but never one like this. Don, is yours like this too? Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 136 K miles ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Pricing a 240 for sale
if anything, swine underestimates the value. a solidly running 240D is worth $1500. in some areas, W123 Mercedes have virtually disappeared. you will not find many nice 240Ds anywhere. At 09:09 PM 6/19/2005, you wrote: you are on crack mac. Steve MacSween wrote: Bottom line is that any used car is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. The 240d is a special case. People who really want a 240d, and I mean REALLY want one, want nothing else. And in my experience they will pay top dollar for a really nice car that has been kept up, or has had real money put into its refurbishment (and I mean refurb, not detailing and a can of purge). Tastes may change, fads may come and go, but a good 240d is worth more than an average 300sd, probably more than even a good SD. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thread a few weeks ago about the 240D Rusty was selling for a ... another person. Totally perfect, needs nothing, sweet chariot=$4000. Much discussion about market value of a 240D ensues. Most people feel between $500 and $999. Others think $50, because who wants a rusted out 240, too slow to get out of its own way? #1 condition 240 should be able to get that $4000 #2 condition much less than $4000 20 footer is lucky at $500 my $0.02 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Favorable A-Class Review
Presumably the dream for some is lots o' new nukes generating pollution free electricity which can be used to make H2 out of H2O. Some dream... On 6/20/05, Lee Einer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: Schisler, Gary wrote: Why the fascination? Because it has the POTENTIAL to be a smog free fuel, renewable and, a clean burning fuel. The downside, of course, is that it takes more energy to generate H2 that it produces. It is more expensive than gasoline or diesel but the possibilities are huge. I envision a breakthrough in 10-20 years that will make it commercially viable. I think the breakthrough would have to come in the form of some abundant, cheap source of electrical power to use to electrolyse the stuff... Abundant, cheap and clean would be the ticket. Hydrogen produced using an abundant, dirty source of electrical power could create as much if not more pollution than the gasoline it displaced. Lee ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Pricing a 240 for sale
I hear diesel MBs are all the rage in Costa Rica right now due to gas prices that are $4.00/gallon. Old 240s and 300s and are being shipped down there. On 6/20/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if anything, swine underestimates the value. a solidly running 240D is worth $1500. in some areas, W123 Mercedes have virtually disappeared. you will not find many nice 240Ds anywhere. At 09:09 PM 6/19/2005, you wrote: you are on crack mac. Steve MacSween wrote: Bottom line is that any used car is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. The 240d is a special case. People who really want a 240d, and I mean REALLY want one, want nothing else. And in my experience they will pay top dollar for a really nice car that has been kept up, or has had real money put into its refurbishment (and I mean refurb, not detailing and a can of purge). Tastes may change, fads may come and go, but a good 240d is worth more than an average 300sd, probably more than even a good SD. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thread a few weeks ago about the 240D Rusty was selling for a ... another person. Totally perfect, needs nothing, sweet chariot=$4000. Much discussion about market value of a 240D ensues. Most people feel between $500 and $999. Others think $50, because who wants a rusted out 240, too slow to get out of its own way? #1 condition 240 should be able to get that $4000 #2 condition much less than $4000 20 footer is lucky at $500 my $0.02 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Normally Aspirated Diesel at High Altitude/NO ADA?
Believe that's the RSF governor detailed in the 123 manual, .../engine/615/07-010.pdf. It's section B, beginning p. 6 of 15. joe
RE: [MBZ] 240D radiator
Nissens or Valeo $163.00 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 5:05 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] 240D radiator No response - Rusty - what's available in a radiator for my '81 240D? Anyone else have recommendadtions, for or against brands? On 6/14/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the used radiator I bought at the OkieQ blows holes through the core under the pressure test -- is it likely that most used radiatorsat this point in time are going to be rotten? Rusty - how much is a reasonalbe replacement? Lt. Don - you wanted this radiator, I'll send it COD ;-) -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Re: inferior oil stock
Oh no!!! Not dancing too!!! ;-) Ken There was probably dancing involved too. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inferior dinosaur stock. There was a little inbreeding, some rumors about May / December stuff and other things that caused the area to get a bad reputation. After the Dino's had died they went in and found evidence of porn, group sex and other degradation. All in all a bad gene pool to be getting oil from. Now the much better oil comes from places with higher breeding, not some seedy little hick town. YTTIC Ken
Re: [MBZ] Quiet 123
I achieved a similar effect using Dynamat Extreme under the entire rear seat area, the whole trunk lid, and as much as I could get under the door panels. I'm not done yet, I've got portions of both cars complete, but it does make a noticeable difference. This stuff isn't cheap but works REALLY well. It's a PITA to properly install however. Here's some photos: http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_stereo/blue_87/dynamat2.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/cars/94_E500/restoration/dynamat1.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/cars/94_E500/restoration/dynamat2.jpg :-) Dave M. Boise, ID -- Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:38:09 -0400 From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Quiet 123 I quietened my 81 300D significantly by putting fiberglass under and inside rear seat and backrest. After that, I called it The Hummer, 'cause it just hummed at cruise. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Pricing a 240 for sale
I sold my 1974 240D 4-speed for $1250 a year ago. You should be able to get at LEAST that for your 123 240D. On 6/20/05, Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1500 will get you a jalopy 240d that looks fair, meaning don't expect too much. A good example in nice condition can pull in 3k. Spectacular ones have gone for well over 4k. Diesels are back in demand and thus prices have been going up steadily for over a year. I get more phone calls from folks seeking nice examples of MB diesels than I do for any other car, currently. Mathieu Cama www.oldworldauto.com At 10:34 AM 6/20/2005, you wrote: if anything, swine underestimates the value. a solidly running 240D is worth $1500. in some areas, W123 Mercedes have virtually disappeared. you will not find many nice 240Ds anywhere. At 09:09 PM 6/19/2005, you wrote: you are on crack mac. Steve MacSween wrote: Bottom line is that any used car is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. The 240d is a special case. People who really want a 240d, and I mean REALLY want one, want nothing else. And in my experience they will pay top dollar for a really nice car that has been kept up, or has had real money put into its refurbishment (and I mean refurb, not detailing and a can of purge). Tastes may change, fads may come and go, but a good 240d is worth more than an average 300sd, probably more than even a good SD. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thread a few weeks ago about the 240D Rusty was selling for a ... another person. Totally perfect, needs nothing, sweet chariot=$4000. Much discussion about market value of a 240D ensues. Most people feel between $500 and $999. Others think $50, because who wants a rusted out 240, too slow to get out of its own way? #1 condition 240 should be able to get that $4000 #2 condition much less than $4000 20 footer is lucky at $500 my $0.02 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Nice-looking 123 sighted
slap Lynn '85 300SD Not even close to showroom, but still very nice. On 6/20/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would've thought her interior would be more pink than palamino... Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 6/19/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw a girl in a 1984 300CD yesterday - maroon exterior, palomino interior, no rust. Purty. So was the car. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Pricing a 240 for sale
My 240d 3.0 is not for sale. I have way too much in it, especially now that is has a low mile euro 3.0 in it. I plan to use this vehicle as a test bed for WVO and bio diesel mods. I plan on configuring custom injectors and with the help of the fellow who does IPs for me we will play with pump settings. I bought that car from a customer who moved onto a 300sd. That car has been in my service since it had 108k on the clock. Now it has around 177k. Zero rust, clean '83 240ds are hard to come by that have been maintained to a T. Plus it is a manny tranny car. If your 240 was a nice example, you sold it for too little. Mathieu Cama At 11:28 AM 6/20/2005, you wrote: I sold my 1974 240D 4-speed for $1250 a year ago. You should be able to get at LEAST that for your 123 240D.
Re: [MBZ] Pricing a 240 for sale
Mathieu J. Cama wrote: If your 240 was a nice example, you sold it for too little. If it was the pea-green one with the dull paint, it was about as good as I expect my 300SD to be by the time my investment hits $1200.
Re: [MBZ] Pricing a 240 for sale
Indeed, it was the pea-green with dull paint and rust and a non-synchronized tranny. On 6/20/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathieu J. Cama wrote: If your 240 was a nice example, you sold it for too little. If it was the pea-green one with the dull paint, it was about as good as I expect my 300SD to be by the time my investment hits $1200. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
RE: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
Kaleb, You are already using Wall-Mart diesel oil and it's manufactured branded the same way. You can't do any worse with Mystic or Harvest King. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:23 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question IIRC its about 30 or so for a 5 gal bucket. I know for sure I will probably buy the tranny fluid but have not decided on the oil. Wish there was a way to tell who made the oil, what was in it etc, how it compares to the others. Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, The oil is probably made by one of the big guys and branded for sale to the farming communities. How much can you save by purchasing in 5 gallon pails? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] another stupid oil question OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. Think they have both 15W40 and 15W50, 15W50 seems to be the most common though. Reason I ask is they sell the stuff in big 5 gal buckets, with my fleet of cars thinking about buying that and tranny fluid in bulk. They sell pumps that fit on the top of the can. So, what do you all think about these brands? I have seen this stuff all over the place in the farming areas but dont think I have used it before. For dino I usually use either delvac 1300 or the wal-mart diesel oil which seems pretty good, as all the diesel ratings etc. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] how do I view this pic?
Kaleb, On the digest version I got the following: -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Euro.injection.pump.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 35338 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20050620/8794fe58/Euro. injection.pump.jpg What is the correct URL? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR 85 300TD 320k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 147k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC Most men would rather die, than think. Many do. Bertrand Russell
RE: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
This comment is not directed at Marshall specifically, but how can someone assume that a store brand product is inferior to a name brand product? Having spent most of my career in the manufacturing business and having worked with thousands of suppliers, I can say with some confidence that many store brand products fall off the exact same manufacturing lines as the equivalent name brand product. In most cases, there is no Quality difference. Nada, none. In the case of this oil, it might be helpful to know who manufactured the product. Concerning base stock, Dino is Dino these days. The manufacturers know how to manufacture engine oil from multiple types of crude oil. The key is the additive package and the C rating plus the fact that all engine oils have to be able to intermix pretty much dictates what has to be in there. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry Kolesnik Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:44 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question call the marketer, they might tell you Hank - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question IIRC its about 30 or so for a 5 gal bucket. I know for sure I will probably buy the tranny fluid but have not decided on the oil. Wish there was a way to tell who made the oil, what was in it etc, how it compares to the others. Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, The oil is probably made by one of the big guys and branded for sale to the farming communities. How much can you save by purchasing in 5 gallon pails? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] another stupid oil question OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. Think they have both 15W40 and 15W50, 15W50 seems to be the most common though. Reason I ask is they sell the stuff in big 5 gal buckets, with my fleet of cars thinking about buying that and tranny fluid in bulk. They sell pumps that fit on the top of the can. So, what do you all think about these brands? I have seen this stuff all over the place in the farming areas but dont think I have used it before. For dino I usually use either delvac 1300 or the wal-mart diesel oil which seems pretty good, as all the diesel ratings etc. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] how do I view this pic?
Another short answer, someone not on digest can forward the picture to your email. I have done this. Short answer, you don't. Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
Re: [MBZ] Quiet 123
The stuff you put on the roof? The stuff that has about a million safety warnings on it? Don't touch, don't lick, don't eat, don't breathe (!), don't be near, don't look at, don't think about, etc... I don't think I'd use it. -Curt Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet 123 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Dave M. wrote: I achieved a similar effect using Dynamat Extreme under the entire rear seat area, the whole trunk lid, and as much as I could get under the door panels. I'm not done yet, I've got portions of both cars complete, but it does make a noticeable difference. This stuff isn't cheap but works REALLY well. It's a PITA to properly install however. Here's some photos: I hear Ice Guard works just as well, is much cheaper, and can be found at Home Depot. Well, at least in places where it snows... Can anyone confirm/deny? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 265+kmi 1980 300TD 163+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi - Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.
RE: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
in my world, Kendall is the brand of ultra cool. can't find it here in georgia though :( At 01:23 PM 6/20/2005, you wrote: This comment is not directed at Marshall specifically, but how can someone assume that a store brand product is inferior to a name brand product? Having spent most of my career in the manufacturing business and having worked with thousands of suppliers, I can say with some confidence that many store brand products fall off the exact same manufacturing lines as the equivalent name brand product. In most cases, there is no Quality difference. Nada, none. In the case of this oil, it might be helpful to know who manufactured the product. Concerning base stock, Dino is Dino these days. The manufacturers know how to manufacture engine oil from multiple types of crude oil. The key is the additive package and the C rating plus the fact that all engine oils have to be able to intermix pretty much dictates what has to be in there. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry Kolesnik Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:44 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question call the marketer, they might tell you Hank - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question IIRC its about 30 or so for a 5 gal bucket. I know for sure I will probably buy the tranny fluid but have not decided on the oil. Wish there was a way to tell who made the oil, what was in it etc, how it compares to the others. Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, The oil is probably made by one of the big guys and branded for sale to the farming communities. How much can you save by purchasing in 5 gallon pails? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] another stupid oil question OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. Think they have both 15W40 and 15W50, 15W50 seems to be the most common though. Reason I ask is they sell the stuff in big 5 gal buckets, with my fleet of cars thinking about buying that and tranny fluid in bulk. They sell pumps that fit on the top of the can. So, what do you all think about these brands? I have seen this stuff all over the place in the farming areas but dont think I have used it before. For dino I usually use either delvac 1300 or the wal-mart diesel oil which seems pretty good, as all the diesel ratings etc. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
On Monday, June 20, 2005, at 10:41 AM, JabbaHursty wrote: in my world, Kendall is the brand of ultra cool. can't find it here in georgia though :( Gary, Right ON! I've used nothing but Kendall Super D 15W40 in my '80 300SD for the past 220,000 miles and she is doing wonderfully ... 3000 mile oil/filter changes... Here in Phoenix, I have to buy it a the local distributor, Arizona Petroleum... It's not retailed here. As a matter of fact, I'm going get two cases from them today.. When I was in Virginia, I had to go to Chesapeake Petroleum in Maryland to get it Again, that's the distributor. You might try to contact Kendall at: ConocoPhillips Lubricants Kendall Motor Oil 600 North Dairy Ashford 2W9076 Houston, TX 77079 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 1.800.368.1267 (Technical Hotline) Take care, Chuck
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
i would only contact kendall at a Pennsylvania address, whether it is Oil City or Bradford At 01:59 PM 6/20/2005, you wrote: On Monday, June 20, 2005, at 10:41 AM, JabbaHursty wrote: in my world, Kendall is the brand of ultra cool. can't find it here in georgia though :( Gary, Right ON! I've used nothing but Kendall Super D 15W40 in my '80 300SD for the past 220,000 miles and she is doing wonderfully ... 3000 mile oil/filter changes... Here in Phoenix, I have to buy it a the local distributor, Arizona Petroleum... It's not retailed here. As a matter of fact, I'm going get two cases from them today.. When I was in Virginia, I had to go to Chesapeake Petroleum in Maryland to get it Again, that's the distributor. You might try to contact Kendall at: ConocoPhillips Lubricants Kendall Motor Oil 600 North Dairy Ashford 2W9076 Houston, TX 77079 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 1.800.368.1267 (Technical Hotline) Take care, Chuck br div___/div divFor used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]/div divFor new parts see a href=http://www.buymbparts.com/; EUDORA=AUTOURLwww.buymbparts.com/a/div divFor repairs see a href=http://www.oldworldauto.com/; EUDORA=AUTOURLwww.oldworldauto.com/a/div br divTo Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:/div diva href=http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net; EUDORA=AUTOURLhttp://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net/a/div /blockquote/x-html
Re: [MBZ] Nice-looking 123 sighted
What? What'd I do? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 6/20/05, ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: slap Lynn '85 300SD Not even close to showroom, but still very nice. On 6/20/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would've thought her interior would be more pink than palamino... Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 6/19/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw a girl in a 1984 300CD yesterday - maroon exterior, palomino interior, no rust. Purty. So was the car. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
JabbaHursty wrote: in my world, Kendall is the brand of ultra cool. can't find it here in georgia though :( Tires Plus uses it as their house brand. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 265+kmi 1980 300TD 163+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
[MBZ] NY state inspection
Can anyone give me an idea of how extensive the NY state vehicle inspection is? In other words, if I'm looking at a car with a current inspection sticker, does that mean it's likely in pretty good shape? Thanks Mac Aylmer, Quebec '60 Mercedes 220s / '85 Mercedes 300sd '75 Volvo 164e / '88 Volvo 245
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
Tom Hargrave wrote: This comment is not directed at Marshall specifically, but how can someone assume that a store brand product is inferior to a name brand product? Having spent most of my career in the manufacturing business and having worked with thousands of suppliers, I can say with some confidence that many store brand products fall off the exact same manufacturing lines as the equivalent name brand product. In most cases, there is no Quality difference. Nada, none. In the case of this oil, it might be helpful to know who manufactured the product. Concerning base stock, Dino is Dino these days. The manufacturers know how to manufacture engine oil from multiple types of crude oil. The key is the additive package and the C rating plus the fact that all engine oils have to be able to intermix pretty much dictates what has to be in there. GREAT question. Of the major brand diesel oils, Delo 400 and Mobil 1300 have repeatedly been shown to just be better oil than MOST other oils that meet the same SAE standard. This has not just been of the quality of the base oil (which has been superior - all dino oil is NOT the same - there is group I oil and there is group II oil and then there are the so-called group III synthetics that are actually hydrocracked dino, and the grpoup IV and V synthetics - but boy will you play hell trying to get any oil maker to tell you how much of each of those is in their oil), but also their robust additive package. These Chevron and Mobil commercial oils have a history of surpassing a standard that other oils seldom have achieved! You have NO legal right to expect Chevron/Texaco or Exxon/Mobil to continue to meet the high standards they have set and maintained over the years, but if they slip much they would do themselves and their shareholders a great disservice. When you purchase house brand oil, you have ONLY the backing of the house (who probably awarded the contract to the lowest bidder) and they have little to loose as long as the product they sell meets the standards they advertise. Just because two products meet some standard does NOT warrant that they are identical, but only that they at least meet THAT standard. Remember also that the SAE/API standard does NOT meet Mercedes standards for engine oil (for either gas or diesel engines). Mercedes has a considerably higher standard and suggests that you use the SAE standard for selecting oil ONLY if oil meeting the appropriate ACEA or or even more demanding Mercedes standards are NOT available. There are many FINE products sold as house brands or under different labels. One of the major sources of private brand oil and other automotive products is Valvoline. They make a lot of private label oil. They also make all of the Mercedes anti-freeze sold in the US (made using the Mercedes formula) and sell it themselves as Zerex G-05. As far as I can tell (based on a quick look - might have missed something), the only Valvoline oils to meet current Mercedes 228/229 standards are synthetics or synthetic blends and not all are available in the US. Another private label product is Caterpillar synthetic oil. It's Mobil Delvac 1 with a CAT label on it - GREAT oil, but it's nothing more or less than Delvac 1 that's available from any Exxon/Mobil distributor and it's cost is about the same. The very cheapest source of Mobil Delvac 1 oil is to buy Mobil 1 Truck SUV 5W-40 (same oil, different name) from Wal-Mart where it can be purchased for about $20/5 qts. (Wal-Mart is the largest purchaser of Mobil oil in the world). That sure beats the $23+/gallon price I can get at the local Exxon/Mobil distributor. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Favorable A-Class Review
My dream is that technological breakthroughs will lead to ever more clever ways to harness the power of the sun (photovoltaics), foster energy conservation, and reduce emissions from the use of fossil fuels. There are even some intriguing developments in nuclear power that were unforeseeable a decade ago. On 6/20/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Presumably the dream for some is lots o' new nukes generating pollution free electricity which can be used to make H2 out of H2O. Some dream... Nuclear power may be our best option in the forseeable future. We really need to figure out what to do with the waste, though. Some combination of reprocessing and Yucca Mountain-style storage will probably be the best bet. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
JabbaHursty wrote: i would only contact kendall at a Pennsylvania address, whether it is Oil City or Bradford Today, Kendall is just a label put on of Conoco/Phillips engine oil. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
Marshall Booth wrote: automotive products is Valvoline. They make a lot of private label oil. They also make all of the Mercedes anti-freeze sold in the US (made using the Mercedes formula) and sell it themselves as Zerex G-05. And I saw, in an Autozone this weekend, ample supply of G-05, for $0.50 more than they charged before they discontinued it last year. (Now $9.49)
[MBZ] Quiet 123
Fiberglass building insulation I put under and inside of my 123 rear seat and backrest was VERY cheap. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] NY state inspection
Umm, no. It may not have a floor. They look for things like frame rot around the suspension points and the frame rails. If the floor is patched, either metal or fiberglass it would still pass. Personally, I've had many cars pass that had 3 plus diameter holes in the floor. Then again, I knew the inspector well. Go look at it unless it is dirt cheap. Mathieu At 02:59 PM 6/20/2005, you wrote: Nooo, never that, this is an estate sale and nice little old ladies in estate sales sort of see 'condition' as being the same as 'was waxed in 2000'. But it went thru inspection 8 mos. ago or so, so presumably it has a floor :-0. Yeehah! Thanks Mac
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
I saw Delo 400 for $6.49/gal somewhere...the savings is like $7 for 5gal compared to the cheap stuff... Chris --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC its about 30 or so for a 5 gal bucket. I know for sure I will probably buy the tranny fluid but have not decided on the oil. Wish there was a way to tell who made the oil, what was in it etc, how it compares to the others. Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, The oil is probably made by one of the big guys and branded for sale to the farming communities. How much can you save by purchasing in 5 gallon pails? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] another stupid oil question OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. Think they have both 15W40 and 15W50, 15W50 seems to be the most common though. Reason I ask is they sell the stuff in big 5 gal buckets, with my fleet of cars thinking about buying that and tranny fluid in bulk. They sell pumps that fit on the top of the can. So, what do you all think about these brands? I have seen this stuff all over the place in the farming areas but dont think I have used it before. For dino I usually use either delvac 1300 or the wal-mart diesel oil which seems pretty good, as all the diesel ratings etc. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann 1985 300SD, 206K miles, Wulf http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris 1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van Raytown, Missouri __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote: OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. Just circumstantial evidence. I have 3 cars that the engines have failed on. In all three I was running Mystic. The reason that I was using Mystic is because they all burned/leaked so much oil that I couldn't afford synthetic. So, because they were oil-consuming engines, they were probably not in very good shape. But after the third engine began to get worse I said Hey, maybe it's the oil! and choose to pay the couple dollars more for Mobil or Delo (still dino oil) from Wal-Mart. That third engine is out of service because of head-gasket problems. My conclusion - the oil _may_ be fine, but _for_me_ its worth the small price difference to put in oil that I have a bit more confidence in. Philip, not an oil expert
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
OH MY GAWD! when did this happen?? while only barely so, i am old enough to remember when Pennsylvania oil meant something. At 02:38 PM 6/20/2005, you wrote: JabbaHursty wrote: i would only contact kendall at a Pennsylvania address, whether it is Oil City or Bradford Today, Kendall is just a label put on of Conoco/Phillips engine oil. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
I usually use it in my oil leakers/burners. Otherwise I usually used delvac 1300 Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, You are already using Wall-Mart diesel oil and it's manufactured branded the same way. You can't do any worse with Mystic or Harvest King. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:23 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question IIRC its about 30 or so for a 5 gal bucket. I know for sure I will probably buy the tranny fluid but have not decided on the oil. Wish there was a way to tell who made the oil, what was in it etc, how it compares to the others. Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, The oil is probably made by one of the big guys and branded for sale to the farming communities. How much can you save by purchasing in 5 gallon pails? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 8:14 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] another stupid oil question OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. Think they have both 15W40 and 15W50, 15W50 seems to be the most common though. Reason I ask is they sell the stuff in big 5 gal buckets, with my fleet of cars thinking about buying that and tranny fluid in bulk. They sell pumps that fit on the top of the can. So, what do you all think about these brands? I have seen this stuff all over the place in the farming areas but dont think I have used it before. For dino I usually use either delvac 1300 or the wal-mart diesel oil which seems pretty good, as all the diesel ratings etc. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] how do I view this pic?
attatchments wont come thru on digest version I dont think. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, On the digest version I got the following: -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Euro.injection.pump.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 35338 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20050620/8794fe58/Euro. injection.pump.jpg What is the correct URL? Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR ’85 300TD 320k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 147k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC Most men would rather die, than think. Many do. Bertrand Russell ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] OT, Why don't I get attachments?
Harry, I believe the paper clip indicates either a real attachment, or a message sent in rich text format (the formatting info is the 'attachment'). In the latter case, OE simply displays the message with the formatting so there's no attachment to open. Rob - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get messages with a paper clip showing next to the message in the upper part of Outlook Express, but no paper clip to click on in the message section.
Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question
really? I have not checkec the one here lately, but I was just in pep boys today and they have it for 9.99 Mitch Haley wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: automotive products is Valvoline. They make a lot of private label oil. They also make all of the Mercedes anti-freeze sold in the US (made using the Mercedes formula) and sell it themselves as Zerex G-05. And I saw, in an Autozone this weekend, ample supply of G-05, for $0.50 more than they charged before they discontinued it last year. (Now $9.49) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Nice-looking 123 sighted
Silly man! On 6/20/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? What'd I do? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 6/20/05, ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: slap Lynn '85 300SD Not even close to showroom, but still very nice. On 6/20/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would've thought her interior would be more pink than palamino... Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 6/19/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw a girl in a 1984 300CD yesterday - maroon exterior, palomino interior, no rust. Purty. So was the car. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1984 MB 300D Turbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Re: Mobil 1 Update...
Kaleb, don't take it so personal :) On 6/20/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its not my list, its OUR list. Bob Rentfro wrote: Could this be the start of the first M1 thread on Kaleb's new list? AZ Bob '77 300D 136K On 6/20/05, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but did you save a bundle on your insurance? Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Royce Engler Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 9:42 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 Update... It's been about a month since I switched to Mobil 1. Thought I'd put out an update. I've seen almost no oil consumption, and he doesn't seem to be marking his territory near as much as before. I did a valve adjustment today and was amazed at how much less leakage there was out the oil filler cap. In addition to that, my grass is greener than I've ever seen it, my roses are blooming constantly, and my wife says I look like I've lost weight...GRIN On another subject, with the advent of Father's Day and the acquisition of a new Craftsman Shop Vac, I'm about to assemble the mother of all oil suckers. My 22 year old Craftsman Shop Vac bit the dust about the time I switched to M1 (got it to run again, but it was spitting out pieces of black plastic). I'm going to use the old shop vac carcass as the oil collection receptacle, connect the old vacuum hose to the new Shop Vac and run a 1/2 hose fitting off of the top of the old Shop Vac as the suction line. Pix to follow. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:08 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 050620 2.313 2.348 2.442 2.451 2.296 2.294 2.274 2.236 2.391 2.476 050613 2.276 2.308 2.399 2.399 2.261 2.248 2.247 2.210 2.364 2.457 050606 2.234 2.263 2.353 2.343 2.221 2.198 2.213 2.191 2.339 2.421 050530 2.160 2.188 2.320 2.284 2.134 2.111 2.117 2.179 2.317 2.367 050523 2.156 2.181 2.338 2.292 2.119 2.097 2.112 2.207 2.339 2.373 050516 2.189 2.204 2.380 2.315 2.141 2.129 2.141 2.267 2.397 2.432 050509 2.227 2.237 2.389 2.342 2.179 2.157 2.173 2.318 2.481 2.518 050502 2.262 2.264 2.410 2.366 2.207 2.194 2.209 2.355 2.530 2.561 050425 2.289 2.287 2.413 2.382 2.234 2.230 2.231 2.371 2.549 2.570 050418 2.259 2.260 2.418 2.373 2.197 2.194 2.180 2.379 2.554 2.582 050411 2.316 2.306 2.434 2.423 2.244 2.263 2.251 2.399 2.585 2.625 050404 2.303 2.299 2.427 2.412 2.238 2.258 2.240 2.361 2.541 2.581 050328 2.249 2.248 2.374 2.360 2.189 2.203 2.182 2.326 2.483 2.512 050321 2.244 2.245 2.355 2.358 2.186 2.196 2.180 2.313 2.471 2.482 050314 2.194 2.197 2.320 2.309 2.137 2.140 2.130 2.260 2.442 2.418 050307 2.168 2.163 2.288 2.280 2.102 2.113 2.100 2.229 2.450 2.408 050228 2.118 2.117 2.241 2.233 2.056 2.064 2.035 2.174 2.412 2.376 050221 2.020 2.027 2.198 2.154 1.957 1.953 1.943 2.087 2.321 2.259 050214 1.986 2.013 2.197 2.150 1.938 1.935 1.915 2.011 2.190 2.196 050207 1.983 2.025 2.222 2.159 1.950 1.938 1.938 1.967 2.113 2.144 050131 1.992 2.048 2.225 2.172 1.979 1.954 1.940 1.946 2.085 2.126 050124 1.959 2.014 2.180 2.140 1.945 1.928 1.919 1.884 2.027 2.068 050117 1.952 2.009 2.168 2.127 1.944 1.928 1.908 1.877 2.001 2.023 050110 1.934 1.999 2.163 2.133 1.926 1.911 1.876 1.877 1.973 2.014 050103 1.957 2.025 2.180 2.163 1.952 1.929 1.887 1.934 2.011 2.063 041227 1.987 2.045 2.196 2.161 1.982 1.959 1.928 1.961 2.040 2.097 041220 1.984 2.052 2.199 2.171 1.988 1.944 1.922 1.988 2.047 2.087 041213 1.997 2.063 2.206 2.184 1.998 1.953 1.910 2.049 2.097 2.138 041206 2.069 2.111 2.234 2.220 2.053 2.033 1.995 2.124 2.181 2.225 041129 2.116 2.141 2.258 2.252 2.082 2.086 2.053 2.171 2.233 2.287 041122 2.116 2.143 2.258 2.251 2.086 2.083 2.048 2.170 2.242 2.299 041115 2.132 2.159 2.268 2.262 2.105 2.096 2.056 2.215 2.274 2.336 041108 2.163 2.182 2.296 2.278 2.130 2.123 2.096 2.248 2.324 2.386 041101 2.206 2.212 2.330 2.307 2.161 2.172 2.147 2.276 2.370 2.431 041025 2.212 2.213 2.329 2.309 2.161 2.185 2.144 2.278 2.380 2.437 041018 2.180 2.179 2.290 2.267 2.131 2.161 2.115 2.219 2.337 2.394 041011 2.092 2.100 2.212 2.200 2.047 2.055 2.033 2.132 2.276 2.322 041004 2.053 2.058 2.155 2.144 2.013 2.019 2.000 2.065 2.238 2.290 040927 2.012 2.019 2.102 2.092 1.981 1.982 1.971 1.999 2.169 2.236 040920 1.912 1.905 1.988 1.973 1.868 1.882 1.868 1.937 2.088 2.152 040913 1.874 1.867 1.954 1.938 1.829 1.847 1.826 1.919 2.040 2.131 040906 1.869 1.858 1.949 1.933 1.818 1.845 1.819 1.918 2.038 2.136
RE: [MBZ] NY state inspection
All of this talk about rust makes me glad that I don't live in the great state of New York anymore. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathieu J. Cama Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:10 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] NY state inspection Umm, no. It may not have a floor. They look for things like frame rot around the suspension points and the frame rails. If the floor is patched, either metal or fiberglass it would still pass. Personally, I've had many cars pass that had 3 plus diameter holes in the floor. Then again, I knew the inspector well. Go look at it unless it is dirt cheap. Mathieu At 02:59 PM 6/20/2005, you wrote: Nooo, never that, this is an estate sale and nice little old ladies in estate sales sort of see 'condition' as being the same as 'was waxed in 2000'. But it went thru inspection 8 mos. ago or so, so presumably it has a floor :-0. Yeehah! Thanks Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT: alternative energy - was SMART somethingorother
Back when, I got jazzed about the Solar Power Satellite thing, called up the guy working on the idea at the time (not quite the inventor, but he took the idea and started working it) and got a job working for him. Did some analyses, and it could actually work quite well, except that a rather large area would be required for receiving antennas (rectifying antennas - rectennas they were called) because you would need to keep the power densities of the microwave beams (lasers could work too, but less efficient) low enough not to fry things that flew through them (birds and airplanes mostly) and you would need to size them for few gigawatts to make the numbers work. But there is a lot of dis/un-used land that would be OK to site them on with minimal affects, transmission to load centers would then be an issue. But the overall efficiency of the transmission is quite high (90% or better if I recall), and with improvements in solar cells on the satellites or another conversion means (solar cells were about the cheapest and least difficult to deal with) the whole deal could deliver clean power just about anywhere at reasonable cost. The biggest issue was launching to orbit, but even that had some interesting options that could really lower the cost to orbit from the earth's surface. Building stuff (sheet aluminum to make the structure and solar cells in rolls) on the moon and pushing it earth orbit looked to be the easiest actually, using adequate resources on the moon (aluminum and silicon and vacuum and lots of clean power) and the low energy to get from there to earth orbit. The moon would actually not be too bad a place to do the manufacturing, what with evidence of water there now and advances in automation, and a replicating base could be established with not too much stuff having to be sent there. But even now with $50 or $60/bbl oil, the economics (ansd $ are the best least common denominator for assessing options) probably still favor oil and nukes. And even back then there were people squawking that this approach would have huge negative effects, etc. though they could not really justify that opinion with any sort of rational argument. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew wrote: My dream is that technological breakthroughs will lead to ever more clever ways to harness the power of the sun (photovoltaics), foster energy conservation, and reduce emissions from the use of fossil fuels. There are even some intriguing developments in nuclear power that were unforeseeable a decade ago. The problem with sunlight is that the power density at the surface of the earth is simply too low for most modern energy uses. I don't remember the figures now, but read about studies that looked at the power density in watts per square meter at optimum conditions, and then figured the area required to produce the same amount of watts as found in other sources (i.e. gasoline, nuclear, coal, whatever) and even assuming 100% efficiency for the photovoltaic cell, an enormous amount of area is required to produce the same amount of power, say in 15 gallons of gas. It's really simply a matter of physics. If you then look at the amount of energy required to make the solar cells, and the industrial waste generated, throw in a few cloudy days, and the picture looks worse and worse. What I found to be really exciting is the idea of putting those solar cells in orbit to cut the atmospheric losses, and beaming the energy down in the form of microwaves or a laser or somesuch (concept was proven in Canada a few years back using a high altitude solar powered UAV to stay airborne for weeks at a time while beaming down microwaves). Or build the 'space elevator' and transmit the electricity down the cable. Now we just need to kick NASA to the curb and let the free market take over space exploration/exploitation and we'll have some real fun! Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR ’85 300TD 320k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 147k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC Most men would rather die, than think. Many do. Bertrand Russell ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
RE: [MBZ] NY state inspection
Rusty floors with holes didn't used to pass in NYS-patched floors did. Spent 12 years in the salt belt in the Finger Lakes. Dwight Giles, Jr. 1979 240D auto, 243K+ miles Wickford RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathieu J. Cama Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 2:10 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] NY state inspection Umm, no. It may not have a floor. They look for things like frame rot around the suspension points and the frame rails. If the floor is patched, either metal or fiberglass it would still pass. Personally, I've had many cars pass that had 3 plus diameter holes in the floor. Then again, I knew the inspector well. Go look at it unless it is dirt cheap. Mathieu At 02:59 PM 6/20/2005, you wrote: Nooo, never that, this is an estate sale and nice little old ladies in estate sales sort of see 'condition' as being the same as 'was waxed in 2000'. But it went thru inspection 8 mos. ago or so, so presumably it has a floor :-0. Yeehah! Thanks Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Galvanized steel in cars
There has been a thread discussing coated steel in the bodies of MB's and some talk of the 210 not using galvanized steel. Body Engineering is my profession so I feel pretty confident in saying that I doubt that any new cars sold in the US today use uncoated steels in their exterior sheet metal components. Industry standard is that all sheet metal which has an interface to the outside elements is coated. There are generally two types of coatings , 'Galvanized' and 'Galvaneel' steel. I'm not a materials expert so I can't really comment on the differences. The coatings are applied to the steel before the parts are pressed. Bodies are not dipped in zinc. The real issue with the newer cars is the quality and quantity of the coatings which are applied. There was a big push in the 80's and early nineties to improve the corrosion performance of vehicles. There has been a more recent push to take cost out of the vehicle. Thus thinner coatings on the base sheet metal. I hope this adds clarity to the issue and not further confusion. Ralph Wasserbaech
