Re: [MBZ] Chicago TD

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

what do the pics look like?

Luther Gulseth wrote:


I asked about rust, brakes, if I can have someone look at the car (PPI), and 
for a phone number to call and ask questions about the car.  That was earlier 
this morning, no response yet.  The seller did send me the pics though.

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"...makes me think some
catastrophic failure has occurred they know how much it will cost and
want you to walk into the trap"

Yes, especially because I asked specific questions about the brakes and 
rust and others and got no answers.  I only got an email that said pictures 
were posted, but there are still no pictures on ebay.  Someone on the list 
found the link.  There are no photos of the driver's side.  Buyer beware in 
caps




Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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Re: [MBZ] Center A/C Vents (W123)

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

that would make a good article

Dave M. wrote:


I missed this thread earlier. I posted my writeup on how to replace
the W123 center vent vacuum pod on Rusty's forum. Click this link for
the full "how-to" procedure, including the part numbers to order:

http://buymbparts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=606

:)

-Dave M.



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Center A/C Vents


Thanks to Lee and Alan (and others) who shared the tricky procedure to
replace the pods behind the dash.  I plan to check the lines before
attempting to get at the pods in hopes of finding a leak in the line before
working on the pods.

My wife has small hands - so I hope to enlist her help if we have to work
behind the dash --

Thanks again -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('78 240D - 286k)



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Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D for sale in Columbus

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

uh, way overpriced.

Sunil Hari wrote:


Guy at the local MB dealership is pseudo-interested in selling his 1980
240D.  Reason he's pseudo-interested is that he has 2 other cars, but he
doesn't know if he can replace his 240.  Brown exterior, tan interior,
perfect inside and out.  4-speed manual, everything works (incl. R12 A/C)
but the power antenna.  160,000 miles, and he's the second owner.  I'm
pretty sure he has complete maintenance records.

He wants $4500.  Any takers?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[Harry Watkins]

Congrates, GO GOO.

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans

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> After removing the head, cleaning everything off, and reassembling
> it with copper spray-on goo it went back together and ran without
> any immediate signs of external leakage.  Progress at last!  I'll
> be keeping an eye on it for awhile to see if I can detect any
> problems.
> 
> -- Jim
> 

Re: [MBZ] PM ???

[Donald Snook]

Mitch Haely wrote:

 

"If the line directly touches the clamps, it will eventually wear
through. Cut some pieces of fuel hose and pad those tranny lines with
it."

 

Bravo! That is a great idea! Maybe everybody else knew to do this, But I
didn't. I love great solutions like this. It makes sense, even I can do
it and it is simple. 

 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[Kevin]

On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:20:26PM -0800, Jim Cathey wrote:
> After removing the head, cleaning everything off, and reassembling
> it with copper spray-on goo it went back together and ran without
> any immediate signs of external leakage.  Progress at last!  I'll
> be keeping an eye on it for awhile to see if I can detect any
> problems.

Cool. Was this the original gasket, or the new one you bought for
assembly?

K

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine

[Christopher McCann]

Thanks, Sunil. Think I'll give it a try.
  
  Chris

Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I subscribe, but I subscribe through MB 
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> on pages 92-93 of the 2004 Classic Collection  catalog, there is an
> advertisement for the above mentioned magazine.  two editions - German or
> English. Cost is 22 Euro PLUS postage/year  (quite high, IMO).
>
>   Does anyone subscribe? Has anyone subscribed in the past or have any
> info on it's worth? No website, but there is an e-mail:
>
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>   Thanks!
>
>   FYI, mag in the ad has a 220D heckflosse on the cover - cool.
>
>
>
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After removing the head, cleaning everything off, and reassembling
it with copper spray-on goo it went back together and ran without
any immediate signs of external leakage.  Progress at last!  I'll
be keeping an eye on it for awhile to see if I can detect any
problems.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine

[Sunil Hari]

I subscribe, but I subscribe through MB USA and get it for $22/year.
1-800-FOR-MERCEDES, select option 4, then option 2, then subscribe by
talking to a nice lady.  4 issues per year, and they're spectacular.

On 1/5/06, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on pages 92-93 of the 2004 Classic Collection  catalog, there is an
> advertisement for the above mentioned magazine.  two editions - German or
> English. Cost is 22 Euro PLUS postage/year  (quite high, IMO).
>
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> info on it's worth? No website, but there is an e-mail:
>
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>   FYI, mag in the ad has a 220D heckflosse on the cover - cool.
>
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> -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
> -1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
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> -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[Mitch Haley]

Werner Fehlauer wrote:
> 
> The hoses that connect the oil cooler and transmission coolers usually last
> a lifetime 

But the rubber pads in the transmission line clamps do not. 
The steel lines for the tranny fluid are clamped to the engine.
If the line directly touches the clamps, it will eventually wear through.
Cut some pieces of fuel hose and pad those tranny lines with it.

Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D for sale in Columbus

[Sunil Hari]

160,000 miles, not 16,000 miles.

On 1/5/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Buy it quick!  It's worth at least $17,000 - see recent ebay transactions.
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> > HAHAHAHAHAHA
> > Rick Knoble
> > '85 300 CD
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> > Subject: [MBZ] 1980 240D for sale in Columbus
> >
> >
> > > Guy at the local MB dealership is pseudo-interested in selling his
> 1980
> > > 240D.  Reason he's pseudo-interested is that he has 2 other cars, but
> he
> > > doesn't know if he can replace his 240.  Brown exterior, tan interior,
> > > perfect inside and out.  4-speed manual, everything works (incl. R12
> > A/C)
> > > but the power antenna.  160,000 miles, and he's the second owner.  I'm
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> > >
> > > He wants $4500.  Any takers?
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[Jim Cathey]

I have a 1983 240D...I replaced the rear window seal & my trunk 
seal is
not leaking.. I have a water leak inside the trunk wall [ behind the 
seat],

when it rains heavy..Any suggestions  ?


Sounds like your new window seal didn't.  (Assuming the water's running
down the leading edge of the trunk.)  Did you check the channel for
rust, etc. before reinstalling?

Taillights often leak, but that's a low-point puddle problem, maybe
not what you've got going on.

-- Jim

[MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine

[Christopher McCann]

on pages 92-93 of the 2004 Classic Collection  catalog, there is an 
advertisement for the above mentioned magazine.  two editions - German or 
English. Cost is 22 Euro PLUS postage/year  (quite high, IMO).
  
  Does anyone subscribe? Has anyone subscribed in the past or have any info on 
it's worth? No website, but there is an e-mail:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Thanks!
  
  FYI, mag in the ad has a 220D heckflosse on the cover - cool.
  


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> I have the candy bar AND the blinker relay.  Pulled the blinker
> yesterday and resoldered.  it worked for maybe 12 blinks then died.
> Cycled the candy bar 25 times and no return to blink.  Buzzing in the
> blink relay.

Wash, rinse, repeat.  (Often I have to repeat such repairs a
time or two before they 'take').

Weird that you have two blinkers.  I'd always thought your car
was of the red-dot era.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[R A Bennell]

No way to prove the mileage to my knowledge since it is the old style that
resets at 100K. It was at 999 miles when I got it and I have put about 1500
miles on it so far. Hope to do better next summer. I made 11 trips to the
lake this past summer but only one was with the Mercedes. Went out and back
the same day and never missed a beat. About 350 miles round trip according
to the odometer. Ran 60-70 mph throughout and did about 28 mpg (on imperial
gallon). Temp guage was steady and oil pressure pegged the whole way. I was
happy.

Randy

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and be SURE to ask for a high mileage badge  application if you have over
163,000 miles. And register your car with  them as it makes it easier if you
ever need to use their free Roadside  Assistance (free fuel if you run out,
free jump, free tire  change...other stuff is NOT free) - very nice service.

  Chris

Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:someone  may have already
mentioned this...and I missed what car we're talking  about, but you can
call MBUSA (1-800-FOR-MERC) and request the  maintenance book. Some are no
longer available - most are. I think I  got the last W123 240D, becuase now
I'm photocopying it for friends and  I only bought it cuz W115 240D was out
of print (my other two were  still available) - ANYWAY, they tell you all
the PM that needs done at  what intervals. You can do it all yourself, sign
the book yourself,  etc. There are a ton of people and resources here to
help you do the  work as it comes up.

  Chris

Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[R A Bennell]

I have the original booklet that came with the car so could copy and use it.

Randy

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someone may have already mentioned this...and I  missed what car we're
talking about, but you can call MBUSA  (1-800-FOR-MERC) and request the
maintenance book. Some are no longer  available - most are. I think I got
the last W123 240D, becuase now I'm  photocopying it for friends and I only
bought it cuz W115 240D was out  of print (my other two were still
available) - ANYWAY, they tell you  all the PM that needs done at what
intervals. You can do it all  yourself, sign the book yourself, etc. There
are a ton of people and  resources here to help you do the work as it comes
up.

  Chris

R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Randy - first, the more the vehicle is stored, the more maintenance that
will be required to keep it reliable, IMO.  Diesels are made to be driven,
not parked!

*** That probably is true but driving it around here in the salt that they
put on the roads would not be good for it. Starting in the coldest weather
would also be hard on it and me (but we have had a very mild winter so far.)

As for the timing chain, it should be checked the next time you adjust the
valves (every 15,000 miles).  If it was running well, starting readily when
you put it away, it can probably wait until you next check the valve
clearances.

*** I have yet to check the valves or anything else really. I just got it
and it seems to start and run well so I have assumed things cannot be too
far off the mark. However, I have no experience with MB Diesels and as such
could be wrong.

Fuel filters are very important, ESPECIALLY is the car has been sitting for
several months with fuel in the system.  Always carry a set of fuel filters
with you - you never know when you'll get a bad load of fuel away from home.

*** I note references to filters. So far as I have been able to tell I only
have the one inside the metal container doodad. I understand there probably
should be a prefilter in the line so will have to check further into that
issue. Should change the one in the container and having some extras is
probably good insurance. The father of a friend of my younger son had to
leave his late model Ford F-250 diesel in Sioux Falls SD just before Xmas to
be repaired after getting a bad tank of fuel. If I understand correctly it
clogged the injectors and the truck had to be towed to a dealer and have
some cleaning work done before it could be brought home. An expensive fix
plus two extra trips to have his wife pick him up to get home and then to go
back for it.

The hoses that connect the oil cooler and transmission coolers usually last
a lifetime - but if you see dry cracks, or they seem brittle, then of course
it wouldn't hurt to change them.  Just be warned that fooling with the oil
cooler can result in a broken cooler connection, so be hesitant.

*** Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Which is the safer course???

Finally, a good, reliable battery is required, so if its getting near 5
years old, replace it!  Not only does it have to be good to do the glow
cycle, but cranking over a cold engine with 20 or more to one compression is
a big battery drain.  )I'm assuming the glow plug system is in good
condition?)

*** Seemed to be fine throughout the summer but I have no idea how old it
is. I have a small trickle charger that I intend to put on to keep it
charged through the winter.  Electronic control so it won't charge if it
does not need it.

This should give you a start on some maintenance ideas!

Good luck..


*** Thanks for the input.  Randy



Werner
'83 SD 210k miles
'90 D 220k miles



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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[R A Bennell]

I have some of the old original records from when the vehicle was new but it
is 30 years old and the more recent information is unwritten and less
reliable. The vehicle is local and was sold by the Winnipeg dealer as a new
vehicle. I am told by the fellow that I got it from that the original owner
was a Doctor. The Doctor, I am told kept the car for a long time and then
sold it to his barber. The barber, I am told, kept it a long time and sold
it to the fellow from whom I bought it. He did not have it long and did not
drive it much. He had it about 3 years and had some work done on it,
including having it repainted. he tells me he only drove it about 1,000
miles in total over the time he had it. The odometer showed 999 miles when I
got it but given that it resets at 100,000 I cannot say whether it has gone
around more than the one time or not. The car is in pretty good condition
for 30 years old. The driver's seat needs to be repadded (and the passenger
but the driver's is worse). There are minor stains on the headliner near the
light over the rearview mirror. The "grill" in the middle of the dash that
looks like it would cover a speaker is coming apart but apart from that it
is really nice for a 1976.

This is a 115 so if it is like the 240 it may not have had the prefilter but
I could certainly add one somewhere.

There is a block heater and it works well. I had it plugged in for a bit
earlier in the winter and then started it as I needed to add some antifreeze
to bring it up to a safe level and wanted the coolant to circulate and mix
well.

Randy
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question


Randy - there should be some maintenance records somewhere, but if the
previous owner can't recall ever  or when the valves were adjusted, and the
mileage is some multiple of 15k, then it would hurt to think about doing
that job.  And since it involves removing the valve/cam cover, you can
easily check the chain at that time.  My experience with engines that have
had proper oil and changes is that these engines can usually go 200k or more
before chain replacement is indicated (by a stretch of 4-6 degrees,
typically).  For example, I just had the valves checked on my SD (210K
miles) and the chain stretch was about 1.5 degrees.)

I don't know that the 240 has a prefilter, but the 5 cylinders from 77 on
have a small plastic filter before the primer pump, and if its the
see-through version, you can see how the fuel looks right there.  They are
cheap, and it would be prudent to change those once a year, at least IMO.
The big filter in the can usually lasts for 30k miles or so.  And as long as
the filters are working, there's no way that the injectors should ever get
clogged.

Speaking of injectors, a common maintenance issue is hardening and leaking
fuel return lines.  Easy to replace, just get about 3 ft of the hose from
Rusty or your local dealer - pay particular attention to the end cap on the
last injector.

I'm assuming you have the M-B block heater?  wouldn't hurt to plug it in for
at least 30 minutes before you try and start it.  Does wonders for ease of
starting and longer battery life!

Did we mention the rubber brake hoses at each wheel?  when they get 10-15
years old, they can swell up inside and actually reduce or block fluid flow
to that wheel's brakes.  A cheap replacement before you flush the fluid
(every 2 years) and before you take that long trip.

And again, I wouldn't fool with the oil cooler lines unless you really think
they are about to break.  IMO, if they ain't broke, leave well enough alone!

Werner

Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[R A Bennell]

Fuel lines is a good idea. I lost a whole tank of gasoline from my 68 Chevy
pickup when the line on the bottom of the tank rotted out. Glad no one
tossed a cig butt out the window while driving by my truck.

The coolant lines look ok but I have to admit that I have not poked them too
much. Don't know where to find the Zerex anti freeze around here but it must
be available. Is there a comparable item under a different brand name?

I need to do some vacuum line work in any event as the door locks are wonky.
Also may be an issue with cruise control as it will not hold.

ATF and other fluids is always a good and relatively inexpensive idea. I
pulled the diff plug to ensure that there was sufficient fluid in there.
There was and it appeared clean. Still a good thing to change it out.

Need to get one of the ps fluid filters I see talked about and change the ps
fluid too I guess.

Same with brake fluid etc. I have to say this car has better brakes than
anything that I can recall driving. I took that as a good sign.

Randy

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I like to have fresh fuel lines, so check the ones at the tank and
firewall.  The returns are fresh, so no leaks there.  Could not kill
the car to get a fresh set of fuel filters, that  way  you know when
they were new and can count from that point.  Maybe do the valves at
the same time, so that you change filter and adjust valves together in
future.

Unless you are totally confident in the water lines, get fresh and
change the coolant to Zerex G-05 from the green.   Lets you start a
fresh three year clock on that job too.

Take a look at the vacuum lines for oil.  Check the fuel lines from
filter to IP for leaks.  Add some algae eater to the fuel tank so that
you do not have bug clog the filters.  Change ALL the fuses to fresh
ones.  Change your ATF/filter and fluid in the diff, so the clock can
be reset there.  While you have the car up off the ground, look at
brake lines for dry rot, top off or change brake fluid and PS fluid.  I
always image that the old stuff that comes in any car I get has not
been changed in years, so like to KNOW when the last time a bit of PM
was done.

Re: [MBZ] 1980 240D for sale in Columbus

[andrew strasfogel]

Buy it quick!  It's worth at least $17,000 - see recent ebay transactions.

On 1/5/06, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> HAHAHAHAHAHA
> Rick Knoble
> '85 300 CD
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> > Guy at the local MB dealership is pseudo-interested in selling his 1980
> > 240D.  Reason he's pseudo-interested is that he has 2 other cars, but he
> > doesn't know if he can replace his 240.  Brown exterior, tan interior,
> > perfect inside and out.  4-speed manual, everything works (incl. R12
> A/C)
> > but the power antenna.  160,000 miles, and he's the second owner.  I'm
> > pretty sure he has complete maintenance records.
> >
> > He wants $4500.  Any takers?
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Re: [MBZ] USC or UT?

[andrew strasfogel]

I felt that Texas was the underdog and more deserving of my support more
than a haughty USC team which hasn't lost in years.

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> some hope for you yet!
>
> Y'all come on down and enjoy this beautiful 75F day we are having.  I'll
> take you out for some Q, Shiners, and some shooting (in that order)!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[Christopher McCann]

someone may have already mentioned this...and I  missed what car we're talking 
about, but you can call MBUSA  (1-800-FOR-MERC) and request the maintenance 
book. Some are no longer  available - most are. I think I got the last W123 
240D, becuase now I'm  photocopying it for friends and I only bought it cuz 
W115 240D was out  of print (my other two were still available) - ANYWAY, they 
tell you  all the PM that needs done at what intervals. You can do it all  
yourself, sign the book yourself, etc. There are a ton of people and  resources 
here to help you do the work as it comes up.
  
  Chris

R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  

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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question


Randy - first, the more the vehicle is stored, the more maintenance that
will be required to keep it reliable, IMO.  Diesels are made to be driven,
not parked!

*** That probably is true but driving it around here in the salt that they
put on the roads would not be good for it. Starting in the coldest weather
would also be hard on it and me (but we have had a very mild winter so far.)

As for the timing chain, it should be checked the next time you adjust the
valves (every 15,000 miles).  If it was running well, starting readily when
you put it away, it can probably wait until you next check the valve
clearances.

*** I have yet to check the valves or anything else really. I just got it
and it seems to start and run well so I have assumed things cannot be too
far off the mark. However, I have no experience with MB Diesels and as such
could be wrong.

Fuel filters are very important, ESPECIALLY is the car has been sitting for
several months with fuel in the system.  Always carry a set of fuel filters
with you - you never know when you'll get a bad load of fuel away from home.

*** I note references to filters. So far as I have been able to tell I only
have the one inside the metal container doodad. I understand there probably
should be a prefilter in the line so will have to check further into that
issue. Should change the one in the container and having some extras is
probably good insurance. The father of a friend of my younger son had to
leave his late model Ford F-250 diesel in Sioux Falls SD just before Xmas to
be repaired after getting a bad tank of fuel. If I understand correctly it
clogged the injectors and the truck had to be towed to a dealer and have
some cleaning work done before it could be brought home. An expensive fix
plus two extra trips to have his wife pick him up to get home and then to go
back for it.

The hoses that connect the oil cooler and transmission coolers usually last
a lifetime - but if you see dry cracks, or they seem brittle, then of course
it wouldn't hurt to change them.  Just be warned that fooling with the oil
cooler can result in a broken cooler connection, so be hesitant.

*** Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Which is the safer course???

Finally, a good, reliable battery is required, so if its getting near 5
years old, replace it!  Not only does it have to be good to do the glow
cycle, but cranking over a cold engine with 20 or more to one compression is
a big battery drain.  )I'm assuming the glow plug system is in good
condition?)

*** Seemed to be fine throughout the summer but I have no idea how old it
is. I have a small trickle charger that I intend to put on to keep it
charged through the winter.  Electronic control so it won't charge if it
does not need it.

This should give you a start on some maintenance ideas!

Good luck..


*** Thanks for the input.  Randy



Werner
'83 SD 210k miles
'90 D 220k miles



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Re: [MBZ] Chicago TD

[Rick Knoble]

If you want me to check it out, I will be happy to
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD

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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chicago TD


I asked about rust, brakes, if I can have someone look at the car (PPI), 
and for a phone number to call and ask questions about the car.  That was 
earlier this morning, no response yet.  The seller did send me the pics 
though.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chicago TD

"...makes me think some
catastrophic failure has occurred they know how much it will cost and
want you to walk into the trap"

Yes, especially because I asked specific questions about the brakes and
rust and others and got no answers.  I only got an email that said 
pictures

were posted, but there are still no pictures on ebay.  Someone on the list
found the link.  There are no photos of the driver's side.  Buyer beware 
in

caps



Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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Re: [MBZ] CD headroom

[RELNGSON]

<>

At 72" with a 30" inseam, I'm about average. The seats were lowered for a 
reason.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Chicago TD

[Luther Gulseth]

I asked about rust, brakes, if I can have someone look at the car (PPI), and 
for a phone number to call and ask questions about the car.  That was earlier 
this morning, no response yet.  The seller did send me the pics though.

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>
>"...makes me think some
>catastrophic failure has occurred they know how much it will cost and
>want you to walk into the trap"
>
>Yes, especially because I asked specific questions about the brakes and 
>rust and others and got no answers.  I only got an email that said pictures 
>were posted, but there are still no pictures on ebay.  Someone on the list 
>found the link.  There are no photos of the driver's side.  Buyer beware in 
>caps


Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

[MBZ] Parking

[RELNGSON]

<>

Guys like you are the reason I can't park my cars on the street.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Chicago TD

[Loren Faeth]

"...makes me think some
catastrophic failure has occurred they know how much it will cost and
want you to walk into the trap"

Yes, especially because I asked specific questions about the brakes and 
rust and others and got no answers.  I only got an email that said pictures 
were posted, but there are still no pictures on ebay.  Someone on the list 
found the link.  There are no photos of the driver's side.  Buyer beware in 
caps


At 02:28 PM 1/5/2006, you wrote:

Andrew wrote:



"Wow, looks nice.  Would be an absolute steal under $1k.  Woder what his
reserve is."



I agree it would be great for under 1K, but doesn't it bother you when
they say "___(blank) needs work."  That always makes me think some
catastrophic failure has occurred they know how much it will cost and
want you to walk into the trap.





Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A.

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[Werner Fehlauer]

Randy - there should be some maintenance records somewhere, but if the 
previous owner can't recall ever  or when the valves were adjusted, and the 
mileage is some multiple of 15k, then it would hurt to think about doing 
that job.  And since it involves removing the valve/cam cover, you can 
easily check the chain at that time.  My experience with engines that have 
had proper oil and changes is that these engines can usually go 200k or more 
before chain replacement is indicated (by a stretch of 4-6 degrees, 
typically).  For example, I just had the valves checked on my SD (210K 
miles) and the chain stretch was about 1.5 degrees.)


I don't know that the 240 has a prefilter, but the 5 cylinders from 77 on 
have a small plastic filter before the primer pump, and if its the 
see-through version, you can see how the fuel looks right there.  They are 
cheap, and it would be prudent to change those once a year, at least IMO. 
The big filter in the can usually lasts for 30k miles or so.  And as long as 
the filters are working, there's no way that the injectors should ever get 
clogged.


Speaking of injectors, a common maintenance issue is hardening and leaking 
fuel return lines.  Easy to replace, just get about 3 ft of the hose from 
Rusty or your local dealer - pay particular attention to the end cap on the 
last injector.


I'm assuming you have the M-B block heater?  wouldn't hurt to plug it in for 
at least 30 minutes before you try and start it.  Does wonders for ease of 
starting and longer battery life!


Did we mention the rubber brake hoses at each wheel?  when they get 10-15 
years old, they can swell up inside and actually reduce or block fluid flow 
to that wheel's brakes.  A cheap replacement before you flush the fluid 
(every 2 years) and before you take that long trip.


And again, I wouldn't fool with the oil cooler lines unless you really think 
they are about to break.  IMO, if they ain't broke, leave well enough alone!


Werner



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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question


Randy - first, the more the vehicle is stored, the more maintenance that
will be required to keep it reliable, IMO.  Diesels are made to be driven,
not parked!

*** That probably is true but driving it around here in the salt that they
put on the roads would not be good for it. Starting in the coldest weather
would also be hard on it and me (but we have had a very mild winter so 
far.)


As for the timing chain, it should be checked the next time you adjust the
valves (every 15,000 miles).  If it was running well, starting readily 
when

you put it away, it can probably wait until you next check the valve
clearances.

*** I have yet to check the valves or anything else really. I just got it
and it seems to start and run well so I have assumed things cannot be too
far off the mark. However, I have no experience with MB Diesels and as 
such

could be wrong.

Fuel filters are very important, ESPECIALLY is the car has been sitting 
for
several months with fuel in the system.  Always carry a set of fuel 
filters
with you - you never know when you'll get a bad load of fuel away from 
home.


*** I note references to filters. So far as I have been able to tell I 
only
have the one inside the metal container doodad. I understand there 
probably

should be a prefilter in the line so will have to check further into that
issue. Should change the one in the container and having some extras is
probably good insurance. The father of a friend of my younger son had to
leave his late model Ford F-250 diesel in Sioux Falls SD just before Xmas 
to

be repaired after getting a bad tank of fuel. If I understand correctly it
clogged the injectors and the truck had to be towed to a dealer and have
some cleaning work done before it could be brought home. An expensive fix
plus two extra trips to have his wife pick him up to get home and then to 
go

back for it.

The hoses that connect the oil cooler and transmission coolers usually 
last
a lifetime - but if you see dry cracks, or they seem brittle, then of 
course

it wouldn't hurt to change them.  Just be warned that fooling with the oil
cooler can result in a broken cooler connection, so be hesitant.

*** Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Which is the safer course???

Finally, a good, reliable battery is required, so if its getting near 5
years old, replace it!  Not only does it have to be good to do the glow
cycle, but cranking over a cold engine with 20 or more to one compression 
is

a big battery drain.  )I'm assuming the glow plug system is in good
condition?)

*** Seemed to be

Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[redghost]

I like to have fresh fuel lines, so check the ones at the tank and 
firewall.  The returns are fresh, so no leaks there.  Could not kill 
the car to get a fresh set of fuel filters, that  way  you know when 
they were new and can count from that point.  Maybe do the valves at 
the same time, so that you change filter and adjust valves together in 
future.


Unless you are totally confident in the water lines, get fresh and 
change the coolant to Zerex G-05 from the green.   Lets you start a 
fresh three year clock on that job too.


Take a look at the vacuum lines for oil.  Check the fuel lines from 
filter to IP for leaks.  Add some algae eater to the fuel tank so that 
you do not have bug clog the filters.  Change ALL the fuses to fresh 
ones.  Change your ATF/filter and fluid in the diff, so the clock can 
be reset there.  While you have the car up off the ground, look at 
brake lines for dry rot, top off or change brake fluid and PS fluid.  I 
always image that the old stuff that comes in any car I get has not 
been changed in years, so like to KNOW when the last time a bit of PM 
was done.


On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 12:07 PM, R A Bennell wrote:


I bought my 76 300D in July of 05. I drove it about 1500 miles before
putting it in the garage for the winter at the end of October. I'm 
wondering
what I should plan to change in order to ensure, so far as possible, 
that I

keep the vehicle alive for the foreseeable future.

I guess that I am supposed to pull the valve (cam?) cover and check for
chain stretch etc but I also wonder what else you folks would suggest 
that I

change to avoid trouble.

My main thought is a concern about things like the oil cooler hoses 
giving
up and dumping my oil before I have a chance to shut down.  A friend 
with a
74 240D suffered an engine failure earlier this year as the result of 
his

oil pump failing (at least that was what he says happened but he is not
mechanically inclined and has a shop do all of the work for him).

Are there similar hoses relating to the auto tranny that need to be 
changed
out as well? (I know I could look at the CD manual or crawl under the 
car

and look but I thought you folks would know and I'm sitting in my warm
office wasting time when I should be working. I'm self employed so no 
one

cares but me anyway, I guess.)

How about the flex disk in the driveshaft? Should something like that 
be

changed or should I leave it until it appears to be failing?

I would like this vehicle to be relatively safe to take far from home. 
We
routinely travel to a lake that is 180 miles from home and I don't 
like the

idea of having trouble and needing to leave my poor car along the road.

I have a woosh-woosh sort of noise in the accessory belt area as well 
when
the engine is cold. I think changing the belts would be a good start 
before

looking any deeper there.

 So far I have only changed the oil and filter twice and the air filter
once. I have done nothing else. I have yet to change any fuel filters 
or the
like. The return hoses on the injectors were done shortly before I 
bought

the car so they appear to be fine.

So, tell me what you think, so I can order up some parts and do a 
little

preventative work before I start driving it again in the spring.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[R A Bennell]

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question


Randy - first, the more the vehicle is stored, the more maintenance that
will be required to keep it reliable, IMO.  Diesels are made to be driven,
not parked!

*** That probably is true but driving it around here in the salt that they
put on the roads would not be good for it. Starting in the coldest weather
would also be hard on it and me (but we have had a very mild winter so far.)

As for the timing chain, it should be checked the next time you adjust the
valves (every 15,000 miles).  If it was running well, starting readily when
you put it away, it can probably wait until you next check the valve
clearances.

*** I have yet to check the valves or anything else really. I just got it
and it seems to start and run well so I have assumed things cannot be too
far off the mark. However, I have no experience with MB Diesels and as such
could be wrong.

Fuel filters are very important, ESPECIALLY is the car has been sitting for
several months with fuel in the system.  Always carry a set of fuel filters
with you - you never know when you'll get a bad load of fuel away from home.

*** I note references to filters. So far as I have been able to tell I only
have the one inside the metal container doodad. I understand there probably
should be a prefilter in the line so will have to check further into that
issue. Should change the one in the container and having some extras is
probably good insurance. The father of a friend of my younger son had to
leave his late model Ford F-250 diesel in Sioux Falls SD just before Xmas to
be repaired after getting a bad tank of fuel. If I understand correctly it
clogged the injectors and the truck had to be towed to a dealer and have
some cleaning work done before it could be brought home. An expensive fix
plus two extra trips to have his wife pick him up to get home and then to go
back for it.

The hoses that connect the oil cooler and transmission coolers usually last
a lifetime - but if you see dry cracks, or they seem brittle, then of course
it wouldn't hurt to change them.  Just be warned that fooling with the oil
cooler can result in a broken cooler connection, so be hesitant.

*** Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Which is the safer course???

Finally, a good, reliable battery is required, so if its getting near 5
years old, replace it!  Not only does it have to be good to do the glow
cycle, but cranking over a cold engine with 20 or more to one compression is
a big battery drain.  )I'm assuming the glow plug system is in good
condition?)

*** Seemed to be fine throughout the summer but I have no idea how old it
is. I have a small trickle charger that I intend to put on to keep it
charged through the winter.  Electronic control so it won't charge if it
does not need it.

This should give you a start on some maintenance ideas!

Good luck..


*** Thanks for the input.  Randy



Werner
'83 SD 210k miles
'90 D 220k miles

Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[redghost]

flasher is not turn signal though

On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 06:47 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


ON cars with the big red button, that IS the flasher relay.  This is
true on 107, 108, 114, 115, 123, 116 etc

Jim Cathey wrote:


Nope.  Rusty has parts for both hazard and for signal relay



There exist 115's that don't have a hazard system.  I have
schematics for them too, and they have a signal relay.  Instead!
But I've never seen such a car, every 114/115 I've seen has a
red-dot knob or that gigantic red candy bar.  I don't know
if the candy bar has a flasher inside it, or whether it's just
a switch like the later red rocker.  But if you have a red-dot
knob, the only flasher in your car is inside it, and is awaiting
the pleasure of your company.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Center A/C Vents (W123)

[Dave M.]

I missed this thread earlier. I posted my writeup on how to replace
the W123 center vent vacuum pod on Rusty's forum. Click this link for
the full "how-to" procedure, including the part numbers to order:

http://buymbparts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=606

:)

-Dave M.

> --
> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:21:56 -0500
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Center A/C Vents
>
>
> Thanks to Lee and Alan (and others) who shared the tricky procedure to
> replace the pods behind the dash.  I plan to check the lines before
> attempting to get at the pods in hopes of finding a leak in the line before
> working on the pods.
>
> My wife has small hands - so I hope to enlist her help if we have to work
> behind the dash --
>
> Thanks again -
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('78 240D - 286k)

Re: [MBZ] Chicago TD

[Donald Snook]

Andrew wrote:

 

"Wow, looks nice.  Would be an absolute steal under $1k.  Woder what his
reserve is."

 

I agree it would be great for under 1K, but doesn't it bother you when
they say "___(blank) needs work."  That always makes me think some
catastrophic failure has occurred they know how much it will cost and
want you to walk into the trap.  

 

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

Tel. (316) 263-5851

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[MBZ] Windshield can't be wiped?

[Tom Scordato]

Marshall said
. "Something on the windshield (oily deposits or chemicals). Bon Ami
will take it off"  My question of the two shown below which do you 
recommend. Cleaning powder of the cleanser  I was is Wal-mart to day they 
did not carry it.


this is the stuff
http://housewares.hardwarestore.com/35-176-all-purpose-cleaners/bon-ami-cleanser-145961.aspx

http://housewares.hardwarestore.com/35-176-all-purpose-cleaners/bon-ami-cleaning-powder-648116.aspx


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte Pa












- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windshield can't be wiped?



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't know what's wrong with my windshield, but the wiper will not
clear the water off of it. It just kind of smears it around. This is with
wipers of 3 different brands, including Bosch and Napa's teflon
blade. There is good spring tension pressing down on the blade.

Could there be some kind of chemical on my windshield making this
happen? Maybe an old dose of "RainX?" Maybe car wash liquid
wax? Is there any way to get it off?


There are 3 different causes of what you describe.

1. Something on the windshield (oily deposits or chemicals). Bon Ami
will take it off (don't use any other cleanser - they are too abrasive
and will scratch the glass). coca cola is supposed to work too (I've
never tried it myself).

2. The blade is old/damaged. A NEW/fresh Bosch or Mercedes blade will
solve that. Sometimes the blade can be cleaned, but that's usually a
short lived fix. A new blade EVERY year is usually required for reliable
cleaning.

3. The blade is not held against the windshield properly. This may be
because the stainless strip is installed incorrectly (the convex side
must point toward the windshield), the arm tension is insufficient, OR
the angle of the blade is incorrect (the arm may need to be bent to
properly set the blade angle so it's the same in BOTH directions of 
travel).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[Werner Fehlauer]

Randy - first, the more the vehicle is stored, the more maintenance that 
will be required to keep it reliable, IMO.  Diesels are made to be driven, 
not parked!


As for the timing chain, it should be checked the next time you adjust the 
valves (every 15,000 miles).  If it was running well, starting readily when 
you put it away, it can probably wait until you next check the valve 
clearances.


Fuel filters are very important, ESPECIALLY is the car has been sitting for 
several months with fuel in the system.  Always carry a set of fuel filters 
with you - you never know when you'll get a bad load of fuel away from home.


The hoses that connect the oil cooler and transmission coolers usually last 
a lifetime - but if you see dry cracks, or they seem brittle, then of course 
it wouldn't hurt to change them.  Just be warned that fooling with the oil 
cooler can result in a broken cooler connection, so be hesitant.


Finally, a good, reliable battery is required, so if its getting near 5 
years old, replace it!  Not only does it have to be good to do the glow 
cycle, but cranking over a cold engine with 20 or more to one compression is 
a big battery drain.  )I'm assuming the glow plug system is in good 
condition?)


This should give you a start on some maintenance ideas!

Good luck..

Werner
'83 SD 210k miles
'90 D 220k miles

- Original Message - 
From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 3:07 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question



I bought my 76 300D in July of 05. I drove it about 1500 miles before
putting it in the garage for the winter at the end of October. I'm 
wondering
what I should plan to change in order to ensure, so far as possible, that 
I

keep the vehicle alive for the foreseeable future.

I guess that I am supposed to pull the valve (cam?) cover and check for
chain stretch etc but I also wonder what else you folks would suggest that 
I

change to avoid trouble.

My main thought is a concern about things like the oil cooler hoses giving
up and dumping my oil before I have a chance to shut down.  A friend with 
a

74 240D suffered an engine failure earlier this year as the result of his
oil pump failing (at least that was what he says happened but he is not
mechanically inclined and has a shop do all of the work for him).

Are there similar hoses relating to the auto tranny that need to be 
changed

out as well? (I know I could look at the CD manual or crawl under the car
and look but I thought you folks would know and I'm sitting in my warm
office wasting time when I should be working. I'm self employed so no one
cares but me anyway, I guess.)

How about the flex disk in the driveshaft? Should something like that be
changed or should I leave it until it appears to be failing?

I would like this vehicle to be relatively safe to take far from home. We
routinely travel to a lake that is 180 miles from home and I don't like 
the

idea of having trouble and needing to leave my poor car along the road.

I have a woosh-woosh sort of noise in the accessory belt area as well when
the engine is cold. I think changing the belts would be a good start 
before

looking any deeper there.

So far I have only changed the oil and filter twice and the air filter
once. I have done nothing else. I have yet to change any fuel filters or 
the

like. The return hoses on the injectors were done shortly before I bought
the car so they appear to be fine.

So, tell me what you think, so I can order up some parts and do a little
preventative work before I start driving it again in the spring.

Randy

Re: [MBZ] 140 3.5 fuel mileage

[Dave M.]

Yes, but the S320 had a *different* 5-speed tranny, the 722.5, which
is sort of a 722.3 with a tacked-on 0.75 overdrive fifth gear. This
tranny was too weak to take the torque of either the diesel or V8
engines, so it was only used behind the 6-cyl engines like the M104.
The 722.5 doesn't have a very good reputation for reliability. The
early W140 diesel & V8's got the bulletproof 722.3 four speed, and the
later ones got the much stronger 722.6 five speed.

I'd *love* to swap the 722.6 tranny into my E500, but besides
clearance issues in the body tunnel, there are a lot of electronic
controls that wouldn't play nice with the old W124 computers.

:)

+dm

> --
> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:45:09 -0600
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 3.5 fuel mileage
>
>
> Well the 300SE/S320 had the 5 speed from the beginning.
>
> Dave M. wrote:
>
> > No, at least not in the USA they didn't. All the W140.134 models from
> > 1992-95 in the USA have the same 4-speed 722.3 transmission. It was
> > the gassers, after 1995 I think, that got the new, beefy 722.6
> > five-speed auto in the USA.
> >
> > The lucky folks across the pond got the W140.135, which had both the
> > OM606 turbo motor (which we NEVER saw), and that engine was mated with
> > the same 722.6 five-speed auto. Now THAT would be one heckuva car!!
> > What a shame MB never imported them. I bet they'd have the highest
> > resale value of any W140 chassis.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > +dm

Re: [MBZ] Center A/C Vents

[l02turner]

Thanks to Lee and Alan (and others) who shared the tricky procedure to 
replace the pods behind the dash.  I plan to check the lines before 
attempting to get at the pods in hopes of finding a leak in the line before 
working on the pods.


My wife has small hands - so I hope to enlist her help if we have to work 
behind the dash --


Thanks again -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('78 240D - 286k)

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From: "Lee Einer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Center A/C Vents



First step is to identify the the cannister. Apply suction with a
mighty-vac. If the vents operate, you have a vacuum leak somewhere in
the lines . I would make triple-damn sure that the problem is not a
cracked line or  a loose line, because the r&r on that little cannister
is neither brief nor enjoyable.

Getting at the cannister to check it will involve removing the glove
compartment and light. Removal and replacement of the cannister involves
either removing the dash, or pulling the center vent tubes and doing
some really fiddly shit in order to rebuild the cannister without
removing it. The vent-tube fiddly-shit trick is the one in the archives,
IIRC.  Unless you have really  tiny little hands, I would forget this
latter option.  If memory serves, there is a cannister up under the dash
on the driver's side which is also involved in passing vacuum to the
center vent cannister, and it may this one which is leaking. This
cannister also is a right bastard to r&r, albeit less so than the one
controlling the flaps. I ended up replacing this one on the spousal
unit's 300CD, used much foul language, a good bit of knuckle-skin and
more impromptu yoga postures than a middle aged man should have to, as
well as having to fabricate a special service tool in order to get the
little retaining clips positioned and installed. Oh, yes, forgot to
mention, if you are replacing the cannister,  buy more retaining clips
and washers than you think you will need. You will have maybe a
one-in-three chance of getting them successfully positioned and
installed on the first try, the rest will go flipping and flying into
the recesses of Der Benz, often to be seen no more.

Good luck. I hope it is just a leaking vacuum line.

Lee

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Howdy -
The 2 large center vents in the center/top of the dash don't sound like
they're opening or closing.   They used to make their movements known by 
the

loud *slap* as the door slammed shut.

That noise has stopped and air flow is minimal - I know this has been 
talked
about quite a bit but I can't seem to access the archives.  Kaleb told me 
in

the past that a link to the archives was available on the main page but I
haven't been able to find any way to access the archives.

I vaguely recall the procedure for getting at the vents but am unable to 
get

to the archives to read about it!  Any suggestions??

Sincerely,
Larry T (78 240D)
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Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact

[David Brodbeck]

Hendrik Riessen wrote:

Thanks mate.
I prefer the back up till you feel the bump method of reversing, which is 
not a problem with steel bumpers:-)
  


Ah, yes, the old "parking by braille" technique.

Re: [MBZ] Chicago '85 TD-PPI needed

[Rick Knoble]

This evening, no. Tomorrow morning, yes.
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
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From: "Luther Gulseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:04 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Chicago '85 TD-PPI needed



Is there anyone close who can look at this car this evening?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4602056952&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1
Pictures are here- http://www.dinosaurears.com/mercedes/index.htm

TIA all.

Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[Christopher McCann]

Dealerships don't necessarily know how to work on  old diesels either. Mechanic 
at a local dealership said they just teach  them to read the computers and 
replace things. HE has been learning how  to work on diesels b/c he bought a 
300SDL and when I took the '87 300TD  in for the free oxidation cat & exhaust 
replacement (yahoo!), he  did the work, thank God.
  
  Chris

R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  The short answer would be no. I have 
generally done most of my own auto
repairs for ever and ever. My wife's brother is a mechanic at a small shop
and I sometimes take things there (as I get older) however, they are not
into diesels and esp not old MB diesels. I have heard of a couple of places
around town that I could take it to, apart from the one dealer in town but I
have not gone looking for a mechanic. My friend with the 74 240D has someone
he uses and seems relatively satisfied.

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Randy, do you have a shop in Winnipeg that you're satisfied with?



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Subject: [MBZ] 1980 240D for sale in Columbus


> Guy at the local MB dealership is pseudo-interested in selling his 1980
> 240D.  Reason he's pseudo-interested is that he has 2 other cars, but he
> doesn't know if he can replace his 240.  Brown exterior, tan interior,
> perfect inside and out.  4-speed manual, everything works (incl. R12 A/C)
> but the power antenna.  160,000 miles, and he's the second owner.  I'm
> pretty sure he has complete maintenance records.
> 
> He wants $4500.  Any takers?
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[MBZ] 1980 240D for sale in Columbus

[Sunil Hari]

Guy at the local MB dealership is pseudo-interested in selling his 1980
240D.  Reason he's pseudo-interested is that he has 2 other cars, but he
doesn't know if he can replace his 240.  Brown exterior, tan interior,
perfect inside and out.  4-speed manual, everything works (incl. R12 A/C)
but the power antenna.  160,000 miles, and he's the second owner.  I'm
pretty sure he has complete maintenance records.

He wants $4500.  Any takers?

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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[R A Bennell]

The short answer would be no. I have generally done most of my own auto
repairs for ever and ever. My wife's brother is a mechanic at a small shop
and I sometimes take things there (as I get older) however, they are not
into diesels and esp not old MB diesels. I have heard of a couple of places
around town that I could take it to, apart from the one dealer in town but I
have not gone looking for a mechanic. My friend with the 74 240D has someone
he uses and seems relatively satisfied.

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Randy, do you have a shop in Winnipeg that you're satisfied with?

Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[redghost]

I have the candy bar AND the blinker relay.  Pulled the blinker 
yesterday and resoldered.  it worked for maybe 12 blinks then died.  
Cycled the candy bar 25 times and no return to blink.  Buzzing in the 
blink relay.


On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 11:32 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Nope.  Rusty has parts for both hazard and for signal relay


There exist 115's that don't have a hazard system.  I have
schematics for them too, and they have a signal relay.  Instead!
But I've never seen such a car, every 114/115 I've seen has a
red-dot knob or that gigantic red candy bar.  I don't know
if the candy bar has a flasher inside it, or whether it's just
a switch like the later red rocker.  But if you have a red-dot
knob, the only flasher in your car is inside it, and is awaiting
the pleasure of your company.

-- Jim


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1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Clay
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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] USC or UT?

[Rich Thomas]

That's like supporting George Bush one step removed man -- you gonna 
have to do some kind of penance for a week or so now.  Or maybe there is 
some hope for you yet!


Y'all come on down and enjoy this beautiful 75F day we are having.  I'll 
take you out for some Q, Shiners, and some shooting (in that order)!


--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:


I was actually rooting for Texas to defeat USC.  I can't believe I did
that..

On 1/5/06, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Hook 'em Horns!


Gary Thompson
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[MBZ] Fwd: 123 Trunk Leak

[Iggleboy]

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[John Ervine]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a 1983 240D...I replaced the rear window seal & my trunk seal is  
not leaking.. I have a water leak inside the trunk wall [ behind the seat], 
when it rains heavy..Any suggestions  ?


Check the taillight seals.

--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi
1980 300TD 170+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi
1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi

[MBZ] 123 Trunk Leak

[RDeafBoy]

I have a 1983 240D...I replaced the rear window seal & my trunk seal is  
not leaking.. I have a water leak inside the trunk wall [ behind the seat], 
when it rains heavy..Any suggestions  ?

Re: [MBZ] USC or UT?

[andrew strasfogel]

I was actually rooting for Texas to defeat USC.  I can't believe I did
that..

On 1/5/06, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hook 'em Horns!
>
>
> Gary Thompson
> Georgetown, TX
> 1995 E320
> BS 1983 and MS 1986 University of Texas
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Re: [MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[andrew strasfogel]

Randy, do you have a shop in Winnipeg that you're satisfied with?

On 1/5/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I bought my 76 300D in July of 05. I drove it about 1500 miles before
> putting it in the garage for the winter at the end of October. I'm
> wondering
> what I should plan to change in order to ensure, so far as possible, that
> I
> keep the vehicle alive for the foreseeable future.
>
> I guess that I am supposed to pull the valve (cam?) cover and check for
> chain stretch etc but I also wonder what else you folks would suggest that
> I
> change to avoid trouble.
>
> My main thought is a concern about things like the oil cooler hoses giving
> up and dumping my oil before I have a chance to shut down.  A friend with
> a
> 74 240D suffered an engine failure earlier this year as the result of his
> oil pump failing (at least that was what he says happened but he is not
> mechanically inclined and has a shop do all of the work for him).
>
> Are there similar hoses relating to the auto tranny that need to be
> changed
> out as well? (I know I could look at the CD manual or crawl under the car
> and look but I thought you folks would know and I'm sitting in my warm
> office wasting time when I should be working. I'm self employed so no one
> cares but me anyway, I guess.)
>
> How about the flex disk in the driveshaft? Should something like that be
> changed or should I leave it until it appears to be failing?
>
> I would like this vehicle to be relatively safe to take far from home. We
> routinely travel to a lake that is 180 miles from home and I don't like
> the
> idea of having trouble and needing to leave my poor car along the road.
>
> I have a woosh-woosh sort of noise in the accessory belt area as well when
> the engine is cold. I think changing the belts would be a good start
> before
> looking any deeper there.
>
> So far I have only changed the oil and filter twice and the air filter
> once. I have done nothing else. I have yet to change any fuel filters or
> the
> like. The return hoses on the injectors were done shortly before I bought
> the car so they appear to be fine.
>
> So, tell me what you think, so I can order up some parts and do a little
> preventative work before I start driving it again in the spring.
>
> Randy
>
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Re: [MBZ] Chicago '85 TD

[andrew strasfogel]

Wow, looks nice.  Would be an absolute steal under $1k.  Woder what his
reserve is.

On 1/5/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anyone close and able to take a look at the car this evening?
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4602056952&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1
> pictures here http://www.dinosaurears.com/mercedes/index.htm
>
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> '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
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Re: [MBZ] 123 front end kit-eBay

[andrew strasfogel]

Maybe all the parts come stuck together like those plastic airplane kits and
you have to manually separate the perforated edges.


On 1/5/06, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have never heard of Hamburg-Technic as a supplier to Mercedes.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [MBZ] 123 front end kit-eBay
>
> Is this a steal or Rip off?  Totaling up this parts list from Rusty
> equals $405 from his website prices.  What gives?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=802
> 6548737&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
>
> Luther   KB5QHU
> Alma, Ark
> '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
> '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
>
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Re: [MBZ] the winner of todays ebay auction award, for pictures

[andrew strasfogel]

Touche!

On 1/5/06, Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> They do have a realestate section. Maybe the listing was just in the wrong
> place.
>
> On 1/5/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > when did ePay start auctioning houses?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > >From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Jan 5, 2006 9:28 AM
> > >To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: [MBZ] the winner of todays ebay auction award, for
> pictures
> > >
> > >I had a good laugh at this one too.  What do these people think when
> they
> > >post two long distance photos?
> > >
> > >On 1/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> o!
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Luther   KB5QHU
> > Alma, Ark
> > '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
> > '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap 300 coupe

[Rich Thomas]

Has that thing been lifted?  Or does it have low-rider tires on it?

--R

Lee Levitt wrote:


http://boston.craigslist.org/car/122717599.html

That'll buff right out.

Lee


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Re: [MBZ] USC or UT?

[Gary Thompson]

Hook 'em Horns!


Gary Thompson
Georgetown, TX
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BS 1983 and MS 1986 University of Texas

Re: [MBZ] Chicago '85 TD-PPI needed

[Luther Gulseth]

uh, hello Luther, you're an idiot...

-Original Message-
>From: Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jan 5, 2006 1:04 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [MBZ] Chicago '85 TD-PPI needed
>


Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

[MBZ] Chicago '85 TD-PPI needed

[Luther Gulseth]

Is there anyone close who can look at this car this evening?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4602056952&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1
Pictures are here- http://www.dinosaurears.com/mercedes/index.htm

TIA all.

Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

[MBZ] Preventative Maintenance Question

[R A Bennell]

I bought my 76 300D in July of 05. I drove it about 1500 miles before
putting it in the garage for the winter at the end of October. I'm wondering
what I should plan to change in order to ensure, so far as possible, that I
keep the vehicle alive for the foreseeable future.

I guess that I am supposed to pull the valve (cam?) cover and check for
chain stretch etc but I also wonder what else you folks would suggest that I
change to avoid trouble.

My main thought is a concern about things like the oil cooler hoses giving
up and dumping my oil before I have a chance to shut down.  A friend with a
74 240D suffered an engine failure earlier this year as the result of his
oil pump failing (at least that was what he says happened but he is not
mechanically inclined and has a shop do all of the work for him).

Are there similar hoses relating to the auto tranny that need to be changed
out as well? (I know I could look at the CD manual or crawl under the car
and look but I thought you folks would know and I'm sitting in my warm
office wasting time when I should be working. I'm self employed so no one
cares but me anyway, I guess.)

How about the flex disk in the driveshaft? Should something like that be
changed or should I leave it until it appears to be failing?

I would like this vehicle to be relatively safe to take far from home. We
routinely travel to a lake that is 180 miles from home and I don't like the
idea of having trouble and needing to leave my poor car along the road.

I have a woosh-woosh sort of noise in the accessory belt area as well when
the engine is cold. I think changing the belts would be a good start before
looking any deeper there.

 So far I have only changed the oil and filter twice and the air filter
once. I have done nothing else. I have yet to change any fuel filters or the
like. The return hoses on the injectors were done shortly before I bought
the car so they appear to be fine.

So, tell me what you think, so I can order up some parts and do a little
preventative work before I start driving it again in the spring.

Randy

[MBZ] Chicago '85 TD

[Luther Gulseth]

Anyone close and able to take a look at the car this evening?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4602056952&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1
pictures here http://www.dinosaurears.com/mercedes/index.htm

Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact

[dave walton]

94 S350 has them. 95 S350 does not.

I only concern myself with the diesels.

-Dave Walton
94 S350, 99 E300

On 1/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually they were on from 92-94 for sure, and I think 95.  AFter that
> they are not.
>
> dave walton wrote:
>
> > FYI - those reverse guides appear on the 94 only. Not the 95. They
> > often fail but can be had at boneyards for < $20.
> >
> > -Dave Walton
> > 94 S350, 99 E300
> >
> > On 1/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>those are the reverse guided.  Little rods pop up when in reverse so you
> >>can see where the back of the car is.
> >>
> >>Hendrik Riessen wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>What are those thingys towards the rear of the rear qurter panels. They 
> >>>look
> >>>like something to put flags in or something?
> >>>
> >>>Just curious can afford anything like that or want anything as 
> >>>ostentatious.
> >>>Plus the missus would spew with all those buttons.
> >>>
> >>>Hendrik
> >>>
> >>>- Original Message -
> >>>From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:17 AM
> >>>Subject: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> http://www.striplin.net
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> >>  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >>  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 123 front end kit-eBay

[Rusty Cullens]

I have never heard of Hamburg-Technic as a supplier to Mercedes.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] 123 front end kit-eBay

Is this a steal or Rip off?  Totaling up this parts list from Rusty
equals $405 from his website prices.  What gives?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=802
6548737&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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Re: [MBZ] 123 front end kit-eBay

[LT Don]

Doesn't look too bad ... if you need all of those parts replaced. But on the
other hand, if you're going to be tearing into it then paying for an
alignment, why not do everything at once rather than waiting for them to
fail one at a time?

On 1/5/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is this a steal or Rip off?  Totaling up this parts list from Rusty equals
> $405 from his website prices.  What gives?
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8026548737&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT
>
> Luther   KB5QHU
> Alma, Ark
> '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
> '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
>
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[MBZ] 123 front end kit-eBay

[Luther Gulseth]

Is this a steal or Rip off?  Totaling up this parts list from Rusty equals $405 
from his website prices.  What gives?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8026548737&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Actually they were on from 92-94 for sure, and I think 95.  AFter that 
they are not.


dave walton wrote:


FYI - those reverse guides appear on the 94 only. Not the 95. They
often fail but can be had at boneyards for < $20.

-Dave Walton
94 S350, 99 E300

On 1/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


those are the reverse guided.  Little rods pop up when in reverse so you
can see where the back of the car is.

Hendrik Riessen wrote:



What are those thingys towards the rear of the rear qurter panels. They look
like something to put flags in or something?

Just curious can afford anything like that or want anything as ostentatious.
Plus the missus would spew with all those buttons.

Hendrik

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To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:17 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact





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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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[MBZ] Today's fuel prices

[L . Mark Finch]

Just noticed at the local Speedway station that regular unleaded 
gasoline and diesel are both $2.49 per gallon.

_
L. Mark Finch
Indianapolis
1982 300D Turbodiesel

Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact

[dave walton]

FYI - those reverse guides appear on the 94 only. Not the 95. They
often fail but can be had at boneyards for < $20.

-Dave Walton
94 S350, 99 E300

On 1/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> those are the reverse guided.  Little rods pop up when in reverse so you
> can see where the back of the car is.
>
> Hendrik Riessen wrote:
>
> > What are those thingys towards the rear of the rear qurter panels. They look
> > like something to put flags in or something?
> >
> > Just curious can afford anything like that or want anything as ostentatious.
> > Plus the missus would spew with all those buttons.
> >
> > Hendrik
> >
> > - Original Message -
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> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] the winner of todays ebay auction award, for pictures

[Hans Neureiter]

They do have a realestate section. Maybe the listing was just in the wrong
place.

On 1/5/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> when did ePay start auctioning houses?
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Jan 5, 2006 9:28 AM
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] the winner of todays ebay auction award, for pictures
> >
> >I had a good laugh at this one too.  What do these people think when they
> >post two long distance photos?
> >
> >On 1/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> o!
> >>
>
>
>
> Luther   KB5QHU
> Alma, Ark
> '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
> '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
>
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Re: [MBZ] 140 3.5 fuel mileage

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well the 300SE/S320 had the 5 speed from the beginning.

Dave M. wrote:


No, at least not in the USA they didn't. All the W140.134 models from
1992-95 in the USA have the same 4-speed 722.3 transmission. It was
the gassers, after 1995 I think, that got the new, beefy 722.6
five-speed auto in the USA.

The lucky folks across the pond got the W140.135, which had both the
OM606 turbo motor (which we NEVER saw), and that engine was mated with
the same 722.6 five-speed auto. Now THAT would be one heckuva car!!
What a shame MB never imported them. I bet they'd have the highest
resale value of any W140 chassis.

:)

+dm



--
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 04:00:32 -0500
From: Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 3.5 fuel mileage

Yes something did change...the later ones got the 5 speed auto box!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto




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Re: [MBZ] OT - Today's DOH!!

[Rich Thomas]

I would have given a dollar to view this performance art, though 12 
hours would have been a bit long to watch it.  My participative 
contribution to his art performance would have been constant derision 
and insults, artistically-delivered of course.


--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:


 U.S. artist hops 12 hours in desert after chaining feet, losing key
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By ASSOCIATED PRESS
January 4, 2006

BAKER, California (AP) - An artist who chained his legs together to draw a
picture of himself hopped 12 hours through the desert after realizing he
lost the key and couldn't unlock the restraints, authorities said Wednesday.

Trevor Corneliusien, 26, tightly wrapped and locked a long, thick chain
around his bare ankles Tuesday while camping in an abandoned mine shaft
about 5 miles (8 kilometers) north of Baker, San Bernardino County sheriff's
Deputy Ryan Ford said.

The Baker-area artist often sketched images inside mines in the Southwest.

When he finished his chain drawing, he realized he would have to seek help
in Baker, the deputy said.

"It took him over 12 hours because he had to hop through boulders and sand,"
Ford said. "He did put on his shoes before hopping."

Corneliusien finally made it to a gas station on the edge of Baker. He
called the Sheriff's Department, which sent paramedics and deputies with
bolt cutters.

Corneliusien's legs were bruised, but he was otherwise in good health, Ford
said. The artist did not have a listed phone number and could not be reached
for comment.

And the drawing?

"He brought it down with him," Ford said. "It was a pretty good depiction of
how a chain would look wrapped around your legs."
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Re: [MBZ] 140 3.5 fuel mileage

[Dave M.]

No, at least not in the USA they didn't. All the W140.134 models from
1992-95 in the USA have the same 4-speed 722.3 transmission. It was
the gassers, after 1995 I think, that got the new, beefy 722.6
five-speed auto in the USA.

The lucky folks across the pond got the W140.135, which had both the
OM606 turbo motor (which we NEVER saw), and that engine was mated with
the same 722.6 five-speed auto. Now THAT would be one heckuva car!!
What a shame MB never imported them. I bet they'd have the highest
resale value of any W140 chassis.

:)

+dm

> --
> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 04:00:32 -0500
> From: Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 3.5 fuel mileage
>
> Yes something did change...the later ones got the 5 speed auto box!
>
> Jeff Zedic
> Toronto
>

Re: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon

[Jim Cathey]

Make a good hauler between the junk yards and Jim place in Spokane, 
parked

next to Moog great conversation piece.


I can see the conversation now:  "So, Jill, what happened to your
husband?"  "Something fell on him like a ton of bricks."

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 140 3.5 fuel mileage

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

They did?  I have never heard that before.

Jeff Zedic wrote:


Yes something did change...the later ones got the 5 speed auto box!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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[MBZ] Cheap 300 coupe

[Lee Levitt]

http://boston.craigslist.org/car/122717599.html

That'll buff right out.

Lee

Re: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon

[Woodlandtaylors]

What about http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/schnelltransporter.html

Make a good hauler between the junk yards and Jim place in Spokane, parked
next to Moog great conversation piece.

Dennis T

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Zeitgeist
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon

WTF?  http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/100dcompact1.html

On 1/4/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OOh yeah for more good stuff go here
> http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/mbhistoric.html
> might have to slide the picture to the left to access the links, unless
you
> have a huge monitor.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

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Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

ON cars with the big red button, that IS the flasher relay.  This is 
true on 107, 108, 114, 115, 123, 116 etc


Jim Cathey wrote:


Nope.  Rusty has parts for both hazard and for signal relay



There exist 115's that don't have a hazard system.  I have
schematics for them too, and they have a signal relay.  Instead!
But I've never seen such a car, every 114/115 I've seen has a
red-dot knob or that gigantic red candy bar.  I don't know
if the candy bar has a flasher inside it, or whether it's just
a switch like the later red rocker.  But if you have a red-dot
knob, the only flasher in your car is inside it, and is awaiting
the pleasure of your company.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT - Today's DOH!!

[andrew strasfogel]

  U.S. artist hops 12 hours in desert after chaining feet, losing key
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By ASSOCIATED PRESS
January 4, 2006

BAKER, California (AP) - An artist who chained his legs together to draw a
picture of himself hopped 12 hours through the desert after realizing he
lost the key and couldn't unlock the restraints, authorities said Wednesday.

Trevor Corneliusien, 26, tightly wrapped and locked a long, thick chain
around his bare ankles Tuesday while camping in an abandoned mine shaft
about 5 miles (8 kilometers) north of Baker, San Bernardino County sheriff's
Deputy Ryan Ford said.

The Baker-area artist often sketched images inside mines in the Southwest.

When he finished his chain drawing, he realized he would have to seek help
in Baker, the deputy said.

"It took him over 12 hours because he had to hop through boulders and sand,"
Ford said. "He did put on his shoes before hopping."

Corneliusien finally made it to a gas station on the edge of Baker. He
called the Sheriff's Department, which sent paramedics and deputies with
bolt cutters.

Corneliusien's legs were bruised, but he was otherwise in good health, Ford
said. The artist did not have a listed phone number and could not be reached
for comment.

And the drawing?

"He brought it down with him," Ford said. "It was a pretty good depiction of
how a chain would look wrapped around your legs."

Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

those are the reverse guided.  Little rods pop up when in reverse so you 
can see where the back of the car is.


Hendrik Riessen wrote:

What are those thingys towards the rear of the rear qurter panels. They look 
like something to put flags in or something?


Just curious can afford anything like that or want anything as ostentatious. 
Plus the missus would spew with all those buttons.


Hendrik

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Re: [MBZ] the winner of todays ebay auction award, for pictures

[Luther Gulseth]

when did ePay start auctioning houses?

-Original Message-
>From: andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jan 5, 2006 9:28 AM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] the winner of todays ebay auction award, for pictures
>
>I had a good laugh at this one too.  What do these people think when they
>post two long distance photos?
>
>On 1/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> o!
>>



Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact

[andrew strasfogel]

The rust, little as it is, sure looks scary.  How do you treat a rusty S/R/
lip?   A spot above the trunk lock?  Wonder what it looks like underneath.

On 1/5/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks mate.
> I prefer the back up till you feel the bump method of reversing, which is
> not a problem with steel bumpers:-)
>
> Hendrik
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Desert Rat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact
>
>
> > Those are called Rear Fender Indicators and come out of the fenders,
> > similar to the antenna, when you are in reverse gear.
> >
> > On 1/4/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> What are those thingys towards the rear of the rear qurter panels. They
> >> look
> >> like something to put flags in or something?
> >>
> >> Just curious can afford anything like that or want anything as
> >> ostentatious.
> >> Plus the missus would spew with all those buttons.
> >>
> >> Hendrik
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:17 AM
> >> Subject: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4600724195&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
> >> > --
> >> > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >> >  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
> >> >  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >> >  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> >> > http://www.striplin.net
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Re: [MBZ] the winner of todays ebay auction award, for pictures

[andrew strasfogel]

I had a good laugh at this one too.  What do these people think when they
post two long distance photos?

On 1/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> o!
>
> Hans Neureiter wrote:
>
> > It's a close-up from Google Earth.
> >
> >
> > On 1/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Classic-1981Powder-Blue-Mercedes-Benz-300D-One-owner_W0QQitemZ4601824987QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >>--
> >>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >>89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
> >>84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >>76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> >>http://www.striplin.net
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[MBZ] Consumer Reports Battery Article

[Dave Wakin]

Just read this on MSN.COM - nice battery article by consumer reports

http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4023696&src=LP%20Passenger

Dave W

Re: [MBZ] 300CD

[andrew strasfogel]

That's because you're too TALL - don't blame the car  ;)

On 1/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <>
>
> The thing can't even make 29mpg, for crying out loud. After 120K miles and
> seven years in a '78 300D, I will say that the car is doggy,
> performance-wise,
> but the coupe body is attractive. One problem is headroom. When I bought
> my
> Milan Brown 4 door, there was a 300CD on the floor that was offered to me
> at less
> than the sedan because at the time semi-stylish coupes powered by diesel
> engines were saleproof. I sat in it and my head was against the headliner.
> In '79,
> the seats were lowered a bit.
>
> RLE/Seattle
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone in CO looking for a coupe?

[andrew strasfogel]

Our 85 300CD turbo once got as high as 30 mpg on a long trip (fully loaded
with luggage and a cat) but around town it's pretty abysmal (18-19).

On 1/4/06, Woodlandtaylors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don,
>
> I have one of each (1978 & 1982). The 1978 is a garage Queen, its
> performance is ok. Freeway cruising no real difference between the two, on
> ramps tell you its not turbo'd.
>
> In the past I've been told the 5 cyl NA accelerates like a 240D with stick
> shift, don't know if that true but it sure beats the hell out of the 240D
> with auto, or a least the one I had.
>
> Fuel economy on my 1978 is only around 24 mpg, does not change much around
> town or freeway.  [If I list it on Ebay would I get a sudden increase in
> fuel mileage?] Car is dead reliable, does have the old servo system and
> York
> compressor for climate control.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> Original Message
> >What are these non-turbo 123's like.  I really like the look of this car
> >and the color. But, I have never driven one of these without a turbo.
> >What are they like?  Are they dogs? More reliable?
>
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Re: [MBZ] This car is like that girl at the party - you know the one

[Donald Snook]

Sunil wrote:

 

"sure, there are a couple scratches and dents on the car, it's missing a
lens cover on the front, and the seats are a little beat up.  What do
you see that is particularly horrendous about the car?  Looks like a
decent daily driver"

 

All those cosmetic issues demonstrate that the prior owner abused the
car.  It only has 112K miles.  A twenty year old with that low mileage
should look like a beauty queen.  It ought to be nearly perfect.  How
you bang up a car this badly driving less 5,000 miles a year. Did you
notice the rusty wheel in the trunk?  If the wheel can get rusty just
sitting in the trunk, what do you think the trunk floor looks like.
Does this look like a car that has had maintenance lovingly performed?
Not to me.  I understand there are some ugly cars with minor cosmetic
issues running around that are in fantastic shape mechanically, but my
impression with this one is that it is a turd that someone abused. 

 

As far as the trap, yes they will replace the turbo if it has been
damaged, but I don't think they will replace the head if it has been
damaged.  

 

 

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 

300 West Douglas

P.O. Box 207

Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Genset

[Potter, Tom E]

At this point, it sounds like there may be a crack in the head or block.
Perform a dye penetrant check and see if you find anything.

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> Have you looked at the surface of the head really close to make sure 
> there
> aren't any cracks in it? Does the gasket match exactly the coolant 
> passages

I didn't see any, but I'm no expert.  I can certainly look again
when I take it off.  Again.  Water weeps out the head gasket, I
can see it coming out when the engine is running.  But less than
last time, for whatever that's worth.

> from block to head? Was there any evidence that whomever assembled the

> engine

Gasket looks to mate fine.

> before used a light dusting of RTV on one of the coolant passages?

No sign, the old gasket came out clean.

This is really frustrating.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Anyone want a 91 350SDL

[Dave Wakin]

Anyone want a 91 350SDL that somehow has engine problems?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-Mercedes-Benz-350-SDL-Diesel-Greasecar-Turbo_W0QQitemZ4602424251QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 

Re: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon

[Hendrik Riessen]

That's the Mercedes version of the VW Golf:-)

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon



WTF?  http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/100dcompact1.html

On 1/4/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OOh yeah for more good stuff go here
http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/mbhistoric.html
might have to slide the picture to the left to access the links, unless 
you

have a huge monitor.


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

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Re: [MBZ] Center A/C Vents

[Potter, Tom E]

I think this is the double-canister just above and to the right of the
accelerator. DO check this one first, as I found this to be my problem
AFTER I replaced the center vent canister by removing the dash.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Center A/C Vents

...If memory serves, there is a cannister up under the dash 
on the driver's side which is also involved in passing vacuum to the 
center vent cannister, and it may this one which is leaking

Re: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon

[Zeitgeist]

WTF?  http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/100dcompact1.html

On 1/4/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OOh yeah for more good stuff go here
> http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/mbhistoric.html
> might have to slide the picture to the left to access the links, unless you
> have a huge monitor.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star

[Bob Rentfro]

Brian typed:

"Hey Bob, you, Chuck and Me and my wife should meet up somewhere for coffee
or a bite to eat. We will be in AZ (where I and my family are from) from
February 18 to 22 or so."

Sounds good to me. We'll look towards that.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 146K
Litchfield Park, AZ

Re: [MBZ] 140 3.5 fuel mileage

[Jeff Zedic]

Yes something did change...the later ones got the 5 speed auto box!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

Re: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon

[Hendrik Riessen]

OOh yeah for more good stuff go here 
http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/mbhistoric.html
might have to slide the picture to the left to access the links, unless you 
have a huge monitor.


Hendrik

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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon



http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/maybach_57_t.html

Wonder if it has the 7 seater option?

Hendrik

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Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.

[Brian Chase]

Yeah, it does show a junk title approximately at the time that TriStar 
claims to have gotten it into stock. Strangely, it shows registration in Las 
Vegas, but TriStar claims it had an AZ title when they got it. I suspect 
there was something fishy going on with that title. But I'm not to adept at 
all this.


Brian
83 240D



From: "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:31:34 +1030

Looks to be a import as well. You might want to get back to tri star and 
ask
them about the mileage. Does carfax make mistakes like missing out a zero 
on
the end. I would not believe that the 240D has only done 10Kmiles, even 
105k

miles is a bit low for an 82.
On the other hand it checks out as being wrecked in the middle of 05.

Hendrik

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.


> Thanks for running, guys. So the issue to be concerned about is the
> mileage
> reports I suppose. This report says some 10,5xxx miles. Tri Star says
> 105,xxx miles. Sounds like Tri Star doesn't know the mileage on that car
> at
> all, and is just claiming it to be 105k.
>
> Brian
>
>
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[MBZ] Just another crappy station wagon

[Hendrik Riessen]

http://www.cwwcardesign.com/cars/maybach_57_t.html

Wonder if it has the 7 seater option?

Hendrik

Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.

[Brian Chase]

Mitch,

Maybe that's what's throwing me off. I have been driving my 900 around 
exclusively so much that I forgot that most older cars (like my '68 Dodge 
for example) have only a five digit odo. Nice to hear that a fellow Dieseler 
also owns Saabs. What kind'ya got? I was very pleased to recently achieve 
34.9 MPG highway in my 84 900 notchback.


Oh yeah, as to the odo issue: Yes, it is quite coincidental that I would 
find the similar figures - 10,504 and 105,xxx. It does make me think that 
someone has slipped a decimal. The guy at Tri-Star claims that 105,xxx is on 
the odo.


Brian
83 240D
and yes, a Saab



From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 21:31:14 -0500

Brian Chase wrote:
>
> Thanks for running, guys. So the issue to be concerned about is the 
mileage

> reports I suppose. This report says some 10,5xxx miles. Tri Star says
> 105,xxx miles. Sounds like Tri Star doesn't know the mileage on that car 
at

> all, and is just claiming it to be 105k.

Or somebody entered it wrong in a computer as 1/10th of indicated, and 
Tri-Star

has it right. Most Americans would assume a 1979 car has a five digit odo.
The only 70's cars I can recall with six digits are my Saabs and my 300SD.


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Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star

[Brian Chase]

Thanks. Yeah, I've heard good things about them. I was surprised at how 
unintelligent the guy sounded in my first couple of phone calls. And yes, he 
was not overly friendly. But as we got into the thick of things, he came 
around a bit. Their website sure is pretty.


I did end up ordering that supposed 105k engine. I got him to tell me that 
he'd provide me with the compression numbers as soon as they tested it. And 
he'd provide me the engine number. And he said, at my request, that he will 
throw in the stop linkage (part of which I'm missing).


He also said that if the compression doesn't check out with my mechanic in 
Tucson that he'd accept the engine back in exchange for another one (which 
would be a lower cost engine since the one I'm getting is their 
lowest-mileage specimen).


So now it's just time to hope and pray for the best.

Hey Bob, you, Chuck and Me and my wife should meet up somewhere for coffee 
or a bite to eat. We will be in AZ (where I and my family are from) from 
February 18 to 22 or so.


Brian
83 240D


From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:44:02 -0700

I'm about 30 minutes away from Tri-Star and I've gotten all kinds of stuff
from them over the years (but remember...the origional sold out when they
had to change locations) and I've never been rooked. I've never purchased
anything as costly as an engine, however. I did buy an auto tranny for a 
'68
250SE and put 'er in and it was great. The guys that work there now are 
less

friendly than the dudes that used to be there.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 146K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:29 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star


> Listers,
>
> The wheels of action are finally grinding to a start in the resurrection
> of
> my 83 240D. I'm planning on purchasing a used engine tomorrow from
> Tri-Star
> in PHX. My auto is at the shop in Tucson, and awaiting shipment of the
> engine.
>
> Question: How can one really know that the proclaimed mileage on a used
> engine like this is anywhere near accurate? It would be in the best
> interest
> of the crooked parts outfit to claim to be selling a nice low-mileage
> engine, yet actually to deliver their highest-mileage engine. They are
> claiming to be selling me their lowest mileage 240 engine, but as I 
said,

> it
> would take some genuine honesty not to pull a bait & switch.
>
> I know there's probably no answer to this question, but what have you 
all
> found in your experience? Bear in mind that I am no where near this 
outfit

> geographically and thus cannot do any physical investigation.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
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Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?

[Jim Cathey]

Nope.  Rusty has parts for both hazard and for signal relay


There exist 115's that don't have a hazard system.  I have
schematics for them too, and they have a signal relay.  Instead!
But I've never seen such a car, every 114/115 I've seen has a
red-dot knob or that gigantic red candy bar.  I don't know
if the candy bar has a flasher inside it, or whether it's just
a switch like the later red rocker.  But if you have a red-dot
knob, the only flasher in your car is inside it, and is awaiting
the pleasure of your company.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact

[Hendrik Riessen]

Thanks mate.
I prefer the back up till you feel the bump method of reversing, which is 
not a problem with steel bumpers:-)


Hendrik

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Those are called Rear Fender Indicators and come out of the fenders,
similar to the antenna, when you are in reverse gear.

On 1/4/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What are those thingys towards the rear of the rear qurter panels. They 
look

like something to put flags in or something?

Just curious can afford anything like that or want anything as 
ostentatious.

Plus the missus would spew with all those buttons.

Hendrik

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Re: [MBZ] euro wagon

[Hendrik Riessen]

I have one but you can't have it cause I am in Oz and shipping cost lots. 
Also those economy meter are just there to worry you into going slower.
Also the oil prssure is pretty good given the temp and revs, mine is usally 
at 1 at idle.


Hendrik

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Nice car, but he appears to be casting aspersions on the the
individual who originally imported the vehicle:

"This model mercedes was never available in the United States; it was
imported by a private part in 1985."

BTW:  Does anyone have a 123 guage with the "economy meter" built into
it, like this gasser's setup.  I'm just looking for the fuel level/oil
pressure/coolant temp/fuel economy guage set.

On 1/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (207k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)

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Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact

[Desert Rat]

Those are called Rear Fender Indicators and come out of the fenders,
similar to the antenna, when you are in reverse gear.

On 1/4/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What are those thingys towards the rear of the rear qurter panels. They look
> like something to put flags in or something?
>
> Just curious can afford anything like that or want anything as ostentatious.
> Plus the missus would spew with all those buttons.
>
> Hendrik
>
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> >  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] Im sure glad the spark plugs are intact

[Hendrik Riessen]

What are those thingys towards the rear of the rear qurter panels. They look 
like something to put flags in or something?


Just curious can afford anything like that or want anything as ostentatious. 
Plus the missus would spew with all those buttons.


Hendrik

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Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.

[Hendrik Riessen]

Looks to be a import as well. You might want to get back to tri star and ask 
them about the mileage. Does carfax make mistakes like missing out a zero on 
the end. I would not believe that the 240D has only done 10Kmiles, even 105k 
miles is a bit low for an 82.

On the other hand it checks out as being wrecked in the middle of 05.

Hendrik

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.


Thanks for running, guys. So the issue to be concerned about is the 
mileage

reports I suppose. This report says some 10,5xxx miles. Tri Star says
105,xxx miles. Sounds like Tri Star doesn't know the mileage on that car 
at

all, and is just claiming it to be 105k.

Brian


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Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.

[Hendrik Riessen]

This does not tell much except that it is a 82 made in Germany.duh
http://www.benzworld.org/modelguide/

Hendrik

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star VIN no.



Thanks to all for the input.

I did obtain the VIN of the '82 240D that the engine is currently sitting
in.
It's: WDBAB23AXCB314258

If anyone would run a CarFax on it, that'd be great.



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Used Engines from Tri-Star
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:35:27 -0500


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You might also ask Tri-Star for the engine #  and if possible, the VIN of
the car it was removed from.  With the VIN a Carfax *might* tell you
something about the condition of the engine, or it might not.  If you get
the engine # *and* the VIN you should be able to determine if that engine
actually came out of that VIN.  It might not be possible to tell if that
*exact* engine came from the VIN they provided but MBNA *might* have some
info to help correlate the 2 numbers together.   But gathering more info 
is

never a bad thing.  There's also a possibility Tri-Star will tell you that
info is not available.  If nothing else, Tri-Star will see you're not 
going

into this blindly.


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> Listers,
>
> The wheels of action are finally grinding to a start in the 
> resurrection

> of
> my 83 240D. I'm planning on purchasing a used engine tomorrow from
> Tri-Star
> in PHX. My auto is at the shop in Tucson, and awaiting shipment of the
> engine.
>
> Question: How can one really know that the proclaimed mileage on a used
> engine like this is anywhere near accurate? It would be in the best
> interest
> of the crooked parts outfit to claim to be selling a nice low-mileage
> engine, yet actually to deliver their highest-mileage engine. They are
> claiming to be selling me their lowest mileage 240 engine, but as I
said,
> it
> would take some genuine honesty not to pull a bait & switch.
>
> I know there's probably no answer to this question, but what have you
all
> found in your experience? Bear in mind that I am no where near this
outfit
> geographically and thus cannot do any physical investigation.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
>
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