date:20060428

what is the preferred oil for an air compressor?  M1 or do I need a  
special oil?  TIA all,


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'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi)
'82 300CD (159,xxx kmi)
'82 300D  (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

Re: [MBZ] air compressors

2006-04-28 Thread Wakin's

I believe most take the special air compressor oil. I know the manual to
mine says to not use motor oil, even synthetic.

My gut feeling is that it would be fine, but there must be a reason it says
not to. They don't take much oil, and the one qt I bought got  me two
changes.

Dave W

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Subject: [MBZ] air compressors


 what is the preferred oil for an air compressor?  M1 or do I need a
 special oil?  TIA all,

 --
 Luther   KB5QHU
 Alma, Ark
 '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi)
 '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi)
 '82 300D  (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

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[MBZ] Lost in the world of Stereos - W124

2006-04-28 Thread l02turner


Howdy Everyone,
OK, Thanks to Kaleb, I pulled the right side trunk liner back  saw a couple 
of things I need help understanding how they work with the radio in the 
dash.


You'll soon see from my lack of the use of proper terms that my experience 
with this stuff is pretty limited.  OK, in the trunk under the liner on the 
passenger side, there's a box with fins on it which I assume is an amplifier 
with cooling fins.  Next to that (on the opposite side of the trunk hinge) 
is another box - - what the heck is that ?   Where does my CD Changer hook 
in?


So, there's a AM-FM Cassette radio in my dash - is that considered the 
head unit?


I hear I need a wiring adapter - which I find ludicrous when I'm using OEM 
equipment with factory wiring - (but that's another problem) -- is that 
something a car stereo shop will have or can make?  Does it come from the 
dealer? I'm trying to see if the place I got the Changer has it but that may 
be wishful thinking.


OK Gang -  Impress me with your knowledge as you always do!;-)

Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] air compressors

2006-04-28 Thread Jeff Zedic

Do not use anything but the oil specified by your manufacturer! 
Especially a detergent oil like M1! What happens is that the additive 
package breaks down and gums up the works.


Oil doesn't wear out! The additives do and leave a mess of gunk behind.

At the very least use a non detergent single weight oil if you cannot 
find any other specs.



Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Lost in the world of Stereos - W124

2006-04-28 Thread mykd1

Larry, The head unit is the stereo in the dash since it controls every part of 
the stereo system. What you see in the trunk with the cooling fins is the 
amplifier. They are usually mounted in a place where air can pass over them to 
keep them cool. I'm guessing the black box you saw near the hinges was a 
crossover. That is used to separate the various signals to the speakers from 
the amp, lows to the woofers and highs to the tweeters. You should see speaker 
wires running from that box to each speaker setup.  
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
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Subject: [MBZ] Lost in the world of Stereos - W124


Howdy Everyone,
OK, Thanks to Kaleb, I pulled the right side trunk liner back  saw a couple 
of things I need help understanding how they work with the radio in the 
dash.

You'll soon see from my lack of the use of proper terms that my experience 
with this stuff is pretty limited.  OK, in the trunk under the liner on the 
passenger side, there's a box with fins on it which I assume is an amplifier 
with cooling fins.  Next to that (on the opposite side of the trunk hinge) 
is another box - - what the heck is that ?   Where does my CD Changer hook 
in?

So, there's a AM-FM Cassette radio in my dash - is that considered the 
head unit?

I hear I need a wiring adapter - which I find ludicrous when I'm using OEM 
equipment with factory wiring - (but that's another problem) -- is that 
something a car stereo shop will have or can make?  Does it come from the 
dealer? I'm trying to see if the place I got the Changer has it but that may 
be wishful thinking.

OK Gang -  Impress me with your knowledge as you always do!;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] air compressors

2006-04-28 Thread Rich Thomas

I went by the tool repair shop (factory service) to get a DeWalt part, 
asked if they had the synthetic oil for my DeWalt compressor as it came 
from the factory.  The service guy said they just use a straight 30W (I 
think he said) NON-detergent when they service a/cs (and no they did not 
have that stuff).  In any case, you can buy compressor oil (stuff I have 
has a red dye, looks like tranny fluid) at many places, my guess is  
that is what it is.


--R

Wakin's wrote:


I believe most take the special air compressor oil. I know the manual to
mine says to not use motor oil, even synthetic.

My gut feeling is that it would be fine, but there must be a reason it says
not to. They don't take much oil, and the one qt I bought got  me two
changes.

Dave W

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Subject: [MBZ] air compressors


 


what is the preferred oil for an air compressor?  M1 or do I need a
special oil?  TIA all,

--
Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi)
'82 300CD (159,xxx kmi)
'82 300D  (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work

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Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-04-28 Thread Peter Frederick


6 hours, almost to the minute.

You must remove the bracket for the PS pump, but need to remove the 
pump, just loosen it.  You don't need to touch the AC bracket or pump.


You also do not need to remove the screw that holds the heater pipe, it 
has a slot.  A real bear to get back if if you do (as I did).  Make 
sure you have a new o-ring for that pipe, and I would replace the short 
hose between thermostat housing and pump (or whatever it is) -- you 
really must remove the pump to change it.


A swivel will be required to get to the rear bolts on the WP.  Make 
sure the surface of the head is clean, you don't want to have to do 
this again because the o-ring leaked.


Without PS, this is about a 30 min job.

Peter

Re: [MBZ] VIN Check Please

2006-04-28 Thread kayoooh @ gmail

Message: 10
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:39:11 -0400
From: Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] VIN Check Please
WDBGA43E8SA217138

95 S420

Thanks in advance

Tarek

Here you go.

Omar.

The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and
summary information on your car is shown below.
Report Run Date: 04/27/2006
Vehicle Description: WDBGA43E8SA217138
TitleCheck: No Record Found
Problem Check: No Record Found
Odometer Check: Record(s) Found
Vehicle Information: Record(s) Found
Full History: Record(s) Found

VIN: WDBGA43E8SA217138
Year: 1995
Make: Mercedes-Benz
Model: S Class S420V
Style/Body: 4 Door Sedan
Engine: 4.2L V8 MPI
Country of Assembly: Germany

Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1995 Mercedes-Benz S
Class S420V (WDBGA43E8SA217138) show no significant Title events. When
found, events often indicate past automotive damage or warnings associated
with the vehicle title.

Problems Checked Results Found
Abandoned  No Abandoned Record Found
Damaged  No Damaged Record Found
Fire Damage  No Fire Damage Record Found
Grey Market  No Grey Market Record Found
Hail Damage  No Hail Damage Record Found
Insurance Loss  No Insurance Loss Record Found
Junk  No Junk Record Found
Rebuilt/Rebuildable  No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Record Found
Salvage  No Salvage Record Found

Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1995 Mercedes-Benz S
Class S420V (WDBGA43E8SA217138) shows no historical events that indicate a
significant automotive problem. These problems can indicate previous car
damage, theft, or other significant problem.

Problems Checked Results Found
NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle  No NHTSA Crash Test Record Found
Frame Damage  No Frame Damage Record Found
Major Damage Incident  No Major Damage Record Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon  No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Record Found
Odometer Problem  No Odometer Problem Record Found
Recycled  No Recycled Record Found
Salvage Auction  No Salvage Auction Record Found
Water Damage  No Water Damage Record Found

Your Vehicle Checks Out! For this 1995  Mercedes-Benz  S Class S420V
(WDBGA43E8SA217138) no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was
found. We determine odometer rollbacks by searching for records that
indicate odometer reading that are less than a previously reported value.
Other odometer events can report events of tampering, or possible odometer
breakage.

Report Date: 04/27/2006
Date Reported Odometer Reading
09/28/1994 20
08/29/1995 19,000
08/14/1997 40,000
10/07/1997 41,770
03/18/1998 41,789
08/26/1998 53,900
03/02/1999 56,440
01/13/2000 74,507
01/30/2001 91,179
01/23/2002 102,923
02/28/2003 118,811
03/25/2003 119,745
01/30/2004 130,729

Information Found! AutoCheck found additional information on this vehicle.
These records will provide you with more past history for this 1995
Mercedes-Benz S Class S420V (WDBGA43E8SA217138).

Problems Checked Results Found
Accident Data  No Accidents Reported Through State Agencies Or Independent
Sources
Corrected Title  No Corrected Title Record Found
Driver Education  No Driver Education Record Found
Duplicate Title  No Duplicate Title Record Found
Emission/Safety Inspection  Emission/Safety Inspection Record(s) Found
Fire Damage Incident  No Fire Damage Incident Record Found
Lease  No Lease Record Found
Lien  Lien Record(s) Found
Livery Use  No Livery Use Record Found
Government Use  No Government Use Record Found
Police Use  No Police Use Record Found
Fleet  No Fleet Record Found
Fleet and/or Rental  No Fleet and/or Rental Record Found
Rental  No Rental Record Found
Fleet and/or Lease  No Fleet and/or Lease Record Found
Repossessed  No Repossessed Record Found
Storm Area Registration/Title  No Storm Area Registration/Title Indicated
Taxi Use  No Taxi Use Record Found
Theft  No Theft Record Found

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order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.

Report Run Date: 04/27/2006
VIN: WDBGA43E8SA217138  1995  Mercedes-Benz  S Class S420V

Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
09/28/1994 MIAMI, FL 20 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
08/29/1995 FL 19,000 Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
08/29/1996 FL Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
09/04/1996 MIAMI, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
08/14/1997 FL 40,000 Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
08/29/1997 MIAMI, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/07/1997 SOUTHEASTERN REGION 41,770 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
03/18/1998 CORDOVA, TN 41,789 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:55530192)
(Lien Reported)
04/09/1998 CORDOVA, TN Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
08/26/1998 SOUTHEASTERN REGION 53,900 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
03/02/1999 CONCORD, NC 56,440 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title
#:773274990617118)
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/13/2000 CHARLOTTE, NC 74,507 Independent Emission Source PASSED

Re: [MBZ] 1982 MB 300CDT

I have the inner panel off and electrically everything is fine to the 
motor.


That's harder to determine than you might think.  Hook a test light
to the two terminals and actuate the switch.  It should light up both
ways.  The terminals are both 'hot' normally, the switch selectively
grounds one of them.


Does anyone know if there is an internal limit switch in the motor.


No limit switches, the motors just stall at end of travel.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

My second problem has to do with valve adjustment.  I'm having a 
VERYYY hard
time adjusting the last exhaust valve.  There isn't enough room to 
swing the

wrench without hitting the firewall, so I can't adjust it more than one
turn.  Is there a way around this?(thinking about bending/cutting the 
end of
the wrench to get more space).  Other than this, things seem to be 
normal.


The whole mess is relative to the large hex valve keeper that you
use the seldom-used big wrench (of the set of three) to keep from
spinning.  Perhaps you need to deliberately reposition the keeper
using the big wrench to get another 'bite' on the adjuster and its
lock nut?  When I built my bent wrenches, they are not identical.
The two wrenches were bent in opposite directions so that one or
the other would always be in a position to get a bite on the flats.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Mr. Cathey goes shopping


What the Frankenheap ought to have been, but never ever will be (again):

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/155306094.html

Brings a tear to my eye!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

2006-04-28 Thread Woodlandtaylors

Kevin,

My home has two numbers - 360-225-9012 and 360-450-4245, cell of course is
360-608-2737.

Dennis T

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My cell number  is (971)222-6605, and my home number is (503)430-1910.

I sure hope that the shorter wrenches are what I need to bail myself out of 
this jam!

Kevin 



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Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103


Danke, Herr Frederick

I was guessing it would be a long job because when i was working on the 
Tandem PS pump i didn't see a way to get the bracket off without first 
taking the pump out first.  Just taking out the tandem pump I thought was a 
bear. (compared to OM 621/616 engines)


That is the type of BTDT info I was looking for!

I have started the disassembly.  I am going to take the radiator out also, 
because I want to flush the system and having the radiator our will make 
access easier.


Loren
88 TE M103

At 07:29 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote:

6 hours, almost to the minute.

You must remove the bracket for the PS pump, but need to remove the
pump, just loosen it.  You don't need to touch the AC bracket or pump.

You also do not need to remove the screw that holds the heater pipe, it
has a slot.  A real bear to get back if if you do (as I did).  Make
sure you have a new o-ring for that pipe, and I would replace the short
hose between thermostat housing and pump (or whatever it is) -- you
really must remove the pump to change it.

A swivel will be required to get to the rear bolts on the WP.  Make
sure the surface of the head is clean, you don't want to have to do
this again because the o-ring leaked.

Without PS, this is about a 30 min job.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] I love my 126

2006-04-28 Thread ms . 300SD


Okay, Levi, you have your opinion, but here's mine.
Subarus are UULLLY.

300SD are the most beautiful car EVER made by anyone.

I just feel all luxurious and ensconced in the Beauty Car whenever I drive
it.  I love to float down the freeway and drive 300 miles then hop out of
the car all fresh like a flower.

Of course, it has had the maintenance it deserves, like new suspension and
everything but the steering box, and I'm getting a new one for my birthday
this summer. (Yay!)

Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a  teenage boy to
Miss America.  It's just too bizarre for words.

Lynn
'85 300SD Victoria
206K

[MBZ] A REAL nice 81 300Cd came by the office today

A dude came by the office to place an ad for a REALLY nice 81 300CD, 
comes out in the paper next week.  Price is $2500 obo, seems cheap to me 
 especially if it can be had for 2k or so.  I have the number in 
advance of course.  Unfortunatly I am bound by an insider trading agreement.

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Re: [MBZ] 92 Oldsmobile 98 still For sale


He can drive the 85 and his daugher can drive the POS 240D

Luther Gulseth wrote:
haha, think he wants his daughter driving a faster benz than he is?  It  
bugs him enough when he's around 126 fest at OkieQ.


On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:15:00 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



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Re: [MBZ] Unknown wire

It goes to the diagnosic plug on the drivers side fenderwell.  On the 
older cars that would be for the tach amp.


Dennis Perkins wrote:

I was cleaning under the hood of my 84 300SD today and found a three lead 
wire that ends in an oval female connection behind the drivers side 
headlight next to the preglow timing relay.  It starts at a contact (looks 
like a magnetic pickup) next to the timing mark.  I can see no connection 
that it should hook to.  Everything in the car works.  Does anyone have any 
idea as to wether this is some kind of diagnostic connection or should it 
hook up to something. 




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Re: [MBZ] Location of W124 CD Changer

You have to have another interface box that you order from the dealer. 
IT was about $180 last time I ordered one about 8 years ago.  If you 
were using an alpine instead of the factory one, you would also have to 
order a couple of other adapters from a car audio store for about $75 each.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Here's a belated Thanks, Kaleb -

I have the CD Changer and have the brackets on the way.  Are you saying 
I'll need some wiring harness adapters to hook into the factory wiring? 
That's not a nice way for the factory to play!  They put a Becker in-dash 
radio in then run wiring to the trunk for a Becker CD Changer - and *still* 
they want to require an adapter??   Geez ---


Any idea where I might find one of those adapters?

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Location of W124 CD Changer




on yours it will be in the right trunk well area.  You have to get
adapters thought to hook it into the trunk control unit.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hello -
I finally found a Becker CD Changer to mount in my trunk.  It's an OEM
changer but zI need to know where they are typivcally installed.  Left 
side,
right side, under the hat shelf?  In the depression behind the rear 
tires?


Also - where will the factory installed wiring be tucked away?

Your help will greatly reduce the amount of time I need to spend
searching -- 


TIA!

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] air compressors


air compressor oil

Luther Gulseth wrote:

what is the preferred oil for an air compressor?  M1 or do I need a  
special oil?  TIA all,




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Re: [MBZ] Lost in the world of Stereos - W124

The other box is the control unit.  Dont ask me the specifics, but you 
have to unplug one of the round plugs on top and plug that wire into the 
interface box you get at the dealer, then plug that box back into the 
port you removed the other wire.  Then you have to unplug the power wire 
and plug that somehow into the interface box.  Then plug the cd changer 
into the interface box.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Howdy Everyone,
OK, Thanks to Kaleb, I pulled the right side trunk liner back  saw a couple 
of things I need help understanding how they work with the radio in the 
dash.


You'll soon see from my lack of the use of proper terms that my experience 
with this stuff is pretty limited.  OK, in the trunk under the liner on the 
passenger side, there's a box with fins on it which I assume is an amplifier 
with cooling fins.  Next to that (on the opposite side of the trunk hinge) 
is another box - - what the heck is that ?   Where does my CD Changer hook 
in?


So, there's a AM-FM Cassette radio in my dash - is that considered the 
head unit?


I hear I need a wiring adapter - which I find ludicrous when I'm using OEM 
equipment with factory wiring - (but that's another problem) -- is that 
something a car stereo shop will have or can make?  Does it come from the 
dealer? I'm trying to see if the place I got the Changer has it but that may 
be wishful thinking.


OK Gang -  Impress me with your knowledge as you always do!;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD

I've done 2 adjusts on my CD and 1 on my parents D.  Each time I grumble  
when I hit cyl 5, but I make it.  Just hold your mouth right and switch  
wrenches back and forth.  Mine are set at different angles.


On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:21:38 -0500, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If you need shorter, then get out the grinder and take off a bit. Most  
mechanics have a drawer full of customized

stuff that they have made or adapted over time.

Randy B

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Questions about valve adjustment and my 1981 300CD


Did you make some bent wrenches?

I bought some, but they seem to be too long.  I think I'm going to hook  
up
with Dennis T to try out the short wrenches.  Even an inch or so would  
make

ALL the difference in the world on the #5 cyl valves!

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
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Re: [MBZ] 92 Oldsmobile 98 still For sale

2006-04-28 Thread LT Don

Iowa gets a hell of a lot colder in the winter than OkieLand does.

Megan does NOT want a diesel sitting in the dorm parking lot. No plug for a
block heater and no Dad (well, three hours west of her) if the car doesn't
start.

This is a good time for her to be driving a gasser.

D.


On 4/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 He can drive the 85 and his daugher can drive the POS 240D

 Luther Gulseth wrote:
  haha, think he wants his daughter driving a faster benz than he is?  It
  bugs him enough when he's around 126 fest at OkieQ.
 
  On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:15:00 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin 
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Re: [MBZ] I love my 126


That is worthy of a quotes page!

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:33:50 -0500, ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip


Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a  teenage boy  
to

Miss America.  It's just too bizarre for words.

Lynn
'85 300SD Victoria
206K




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[MBZ] Benifit of drivinng a diesel

2006-04-28 Thread wilton strickland

You can run it on soy oil from Sam's.

Wilton

[MBZ] Question on changing glow plugs in a 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

2006-04-28 Thread Robert Massmann

I looked at my CD maual tonight for changing the glow pugs on my 190.  I 
know when I was checking current draw that it was quite difficult to access 
the plugs themselves.  The manual didn't mention having to remove the intake 
manifold to complete the work.  I guess it is possible with the manifold in 
place but makes the job a lot tougher.  Are there any other things I should 
pay attention to when I change the plugs and when they are removed?


Any suggestion would be appriciated.

Regards,
Robert Massmann
Wilmington, Ohio
87 190D 2.5 Turbo 250K?
85 300CD 327K
82 300D 327K
81 VW Rabbit Pickup 210K (Diesel)

Re: [MBZ] Lost in the world of Stereos - W124

2006-04-28 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:00:59 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK Gang -  Impress me with your knowledge as you always do!;-)

I've found that for things audio you'll do well if you go to Crutchfield
at http://www.crutchfield.com.

They have a help line that's open REAL late at (888) 955-6000. When you
order a radio (like I did recently) they include the appropriate adaptors.
So, they can tell you what you need and can provide it, if necessary.

So, call them already.



Craig

Re: [MBZ] 92 Oldsmobile 98 still For sale

Have you forgotten the mantra? Mobil1, new battery, adjusted valves,
good glow plugs, good starter, clean ground connections ---  starts
anywhere, anytime.
Now that the Audi Diesel won LeMans, No time is a good time to be
drivind a vergasser!

On 4/27/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Iowa gets a hell of a lot colder in the winter than OkieLand does.

 Megan does NOT want a diesel sitting in the dorm parking lot. No plug for a
 block heater and no Dad (well, three hours west of her) if the car doesn't
 start.

 This is a good time for her to be driving a gasser.

 D.

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'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
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Re: [MBZ] A REAL nice 81 300Cd came by the office today

2006-04-28 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:52:13 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Unfortunatly I am bound by an insider trading agreement. -- 

What, the Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) going to come by and throw
you in jail?


Craig

[MBZ] 124 broken window

2006-04-28 Thread wilton strickland

Relief!  Guy whose grass trimmer broke window stopped by glass shop today
and paid the bill.  I'm in hospital tomorrow; replace window Mon.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Question on changing glow plugs in a 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

If you are going to remove the intake manifold, i'd for sure replace
the plastic clips that keep the injection lines from vibrating and
cracking. I couldn't get to all of mine to properly replace them with
the manifold in place (603 engine), but it was easy with it off.
Adjusting the ALDA, or adding shims, if it's needed is also much
easier with the manifold off - the first time, as it was VERY tight.

On 4/27/06, Robert Massmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I looked at my CD maual tonight for changing the glow pugs on my 190.  I
 know when I was checking current draw that it was quite difficult to access
 the plugs themselves.  The manual didn't mention having to remove the intake
 manifold to complete the work.  I guess it is possible with the manifold in
 place but makes the job a lot tougher.  Are there any other things I should
 pay attention to when I change the plugs and when they are removed?

 Any suggestion would be appriciated.

 Regards,
 Robert Massmann
 Wilmington, Ohio
 87 190D 2.5 Turbo 250K?
 85 300CD 327K
 82 300D 327K
 81 VW Rabbit Pickup 210K (Diesel)

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The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

[MBZ] Basic Gaskets

2006-04-28 Thread ned kleinhenz

OK, This is basic stuff.  But I've always wondered...
Is it necessary to replace the gasket everytime I remove and reinstall the
intake manifold on my 606?
The shop manual makes no mention of it.

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Another odometer -

HaHaHaHa!
Too many MBs??? Never! Photogrphy used to be my profession - fed the
family for 20 years, so keeping a camera handy is second nature. That
is my forst odo shot though - I was put up to it by this list - talk
about a bad influence 

On 4/27/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You know the scary part is that you keep a camera handy for such moments.
 Perhaps you need another hobby to keep you busy, looks like you got enough
 cars. What about building a MB out of matchsticks, I know someone build a
 minature 123 out of lego but that is way too easy.

 Hendrik
 who only looks at the odo to see when the beast needs new oil

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'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

Re: [MBZ] 124 broken window

2006-04-28 Thread Sunil Hari

nice guy.  did you tell him about the bill, or did he just do it of his own
accord.

hope the hospital treats you well, and that you heal quickly.

On 4/27/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Relief!  Guy whose grass trimmer broke window stopped by glass shop today
 and paid the bill.  I'm in hospital tomorrow; replace window Mon.

 Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Basic Gaskets

It probably doesn't make any kind of sense, but I apply a sort of the
5 seconds rule to it - like when you drop food on the floor. If it
has only been on a few miles or days, I'd re-use it, anything over
that it gets a new one.
I said it wouldn't make sense 

On 4/27/06, ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, This is basic stuff.  But I've always wondered...
 Is it necessary to replace the gasket everytime I remove and reinstall the
 intake manifold on my 606?
 The shop manual makes no mention of it.


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'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go

Re: [MBZ] Benifit of drivinng a diesel

or free oil from your local fry pub!

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:22:55 -0500, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]  =

wrote:

 You can run it on soy oil from Sam's.

 Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] Benifit of drivinng a diesel



On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:22:55 -0500, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]  =

wrote:

 You can run it on soy oil from Sam's.

 Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] 124 broken window


WOW, there are still honest people in the world!

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:35:58 -0500, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Relief!  Guy whose grass trimmer broke window stopped by glass shop today
and paid the bill.  I'm in hospital tomorrow; replace window Mon.

Wilton






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Re: [MBZ] I love my 126


I agree.  KALEB!  You have some votes!

At 09:20 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote:

That is worthy of a quotes page!

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:33:50 -0500, ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip

 Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a  teenage boy
 to
 Miss America.  It's just too bizarre for words.

 Lynn
 '85 300SD Victoria
 206K



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Re: [MBZ] Question on changing glow plugs in a 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

I did this on two of my 603s with the manifold off.  On the third, I could 
not get the manifold bolts loose, so I left it in place.  Do keep the clips 
on the injection lines in place.  The price of not keeping the clips in 
place is broken fuel lines, and that is nearly a dead on roadside 
problem.  You will at least leak a substantial amount of fuel until you do 
stop.



At 09:23 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote:

I looked at my CD maual tonight for changing the glow pugs on my 190.  I
know when I was checking current draw that it was quite difficult to access
the plugs themselves.  The manual didn't mention having to remove the intake
manifold to complete the work.  I guess it is possible with the manifold in
place but makes the job a lot tougher.  Are there any other things I should
pay attention to when I change the plugs and when they are removed?

Any suggestion would be appriciated.

Regards,
Robert Massmann
Wilmington, Ohio
87 190D 2.5 Turbo 250K?
85 300CD 327K
82 300D 327K
81 VW Rabbit Pickup 210K (Diesel)



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Re: [MBZ] I love my 126

2006-04-28 Thread Sunil Hari

so by that rationale, is a 124 a fitness model?  Aerobics instructor?

On 4/27/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree.  KALEB!  You have some votes!

 At 09:20 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote:
 That is worthy of a quotes page!
 
 On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:33:50 -0500, ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  
   Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a  teenage
 boy
   to
   Miss America.  It's just too bizarre for words.
  
   Lynn
   '85 300SD Victoria
   206K
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Benifit of drivinng a diesel

2006-04-28 Thread Christopher McCann

where are those from? Lots of BioD stuff on cafepress...never searched there 
for grease
 
 Chris

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:22:55 -0500, wilton strickland   
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 You can run it on soy oil from Sam's.

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I am scared just thinking what goes through Kaleb's mind.
Then again from the back some of those stick figure Miss America types do 
look like teenage boys...Ooooh N what has Kaleb done.

Hendrik
who is going to have to seek councelling and sue Kaleb for the cost of that 
counselling

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 That is worthy of a quotes page!

 On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:33:50 -0500, ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a  teenage boy
 to
 Miss America.  It's just too bizarre for words.

 Lynn
 '85 300SD Victoria
 206K



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Re: [MBZ] A REAL nice 81 300Cd came by the office today

2006-04-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain

On 4/27/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:52:13 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Unfortunatly I am bound by an insider trading agreement. --

 What, the Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) going to come by and throw
 you in jail?


He should get along famously with Martha Stewart!  I hear she, like any
proper New England matron, has quite the Benz collection.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] Another odometer -

2006-04-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain

On 4/26/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hit 292292 last weekend on the turnpike --



Another 20,000 miles or so and you'll be able to get your 500K-km badge!

Alex Chamberlain
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'93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] 92 Oldsmobile 98 still For sale

2006-04-28 Thread LT Don

I know the Mantra. I also know my 240D.

On 4/27/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you forgotten the mantra? Mobil1, new battery, adjusted valves,
 good glow plugs, good starter, clean ground connections ---  starts
 anywhere, anytime.
 Now that the Audi Diesel won LeMans, No time is a good time to be
 drivind a vergasser!

 On 4/27/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Iowa gets a hell of a lot colder in the winter than OkieLand does.
 
  Megan does NOT want a diesel sitting in the dorm parking lot. No plug
 for a
  block heater and no Dad (well, three hours west of her) if the car
 doesn't
  start.
 
  This is a good time for her to be driving a gasser.
 
  D.

 --
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 Norman, OK
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 exhausted all the alternatives.
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 '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
 '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
 '78 450SLC 67K, brown car
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Re: [MBZ] Benifit of drivinng a diesel

2006-04-28 Thread Christopher McCann

I think we just had this discussion last week.
 
 VO is about 12 TIMES as viscous as D2 - in a 50% mixture it would be about 6 
times as viscousdo you think your IP was designed for that? I don't. Yes, 
it will work for a while - how long, I don't know.
 
 As for used oils, if filtered with a filter bag to 5 microns, I would say it's 
no different than VO, except MB has officially nixed ATF and motor oil has a 
high ash content.
 
 I ran a 240D on a mix of everything flammable AND bacon grease, mineral 
spirits, gasoline, citronella oil and alot of other stuff. The car still runs. 
Would I add the stuff you mention to the tanks of either of my cars? No way. 
 
 Marshall uses an occasional QUART of new motor oil as a tonic. I don;t drink 
tonics, so I have no idea when I or my engine needs a tonic.
 
 '92 300D. I wouldn't...without heating clean/filtered VO to a temp that brings 
it's viscostiy to something approaching D2 (about 3 centistokes, IIRC).
 
 Chris

Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I have a newbie question about 
alternative fuels.  I have a 1992 300D.
Can I just dump oil (used, new, motor, vegetable) into my fuel tank and
expect it to work?  Keep in mind that I have a minimum of 5 gallons of #2
diesel in there at all times, usually more, as a dilution medium.

Is there benefit/harm in putting in a quart or 4 of used ATF?

I have no desire to run a proper WVO setup, but if I can use my used oils in
my fuel tank, I see no reason to go down to Advance Auto and recycle it.

On 4/27/06, wilton strickland  wrote:

 You can run it on soy oil from Sam's.

 Wilton

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I've had upgraded swaybars on my 124 for a couple of weeks now.  (I had my
indy do the rear bar as part of a thorough replacement of the wear parts
[mounts, links, etc.] in the rear end, and I did the front bar myself---a
trivial job.)  Reduce body roll is true but it seems like an
understatement!  I thought the change would be a

Re: [MBZ] I love my 126

2006-04-28 Thread ms . 300SD


Sunil,
I think she's the gymnastics team captain that some guys lust after.

Ms. 300SD has better jewelry and more assets, though.

Lynn

Re: [MBZ] 92 Oldsmobile 98 still For sale

So let her drive the Quantum except Thanksgiving until the end of 
Feb.  During that time you can leave her wheel-less or let her take a 
vergasser.   She'll love you for it!  And, you will have a reason to cry in 
your beer (thick and black, as per OK Don)


At 10:51 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote:

I know the Mantra. I also know my 240D.

On 4/27/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you forgotten the mantra? Mobil1, new battery, adjusted valves,
 good glow plugs, good starter, clean ground connections ---  starts
 anywhere, anytime.
 Now that the Audi Diesel won LeMans, No time is a good time to be
 drivind a vergasser!

 On 4/27/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Iowa gets a hell of a lot colder in the winter than OkieLand does.
 
  Megan does NOT want a diesel sitting in the dorm parking lot. No plug
 for a
  block heater and no Dad (well, three hours west of her) if the car
 doesn't
  start.
 
  This is a good time for her to be driving a gasser.
 
  D.

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Re: [MBZ] I love my 126

That is a great analogy for the 124!   This thread is getting very 
entertaining!


At 11:16 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote:

Sunil,
I think she's the gymnastics team captain that some guys lust after.

Ms. 300SD has better jewelry and more assets, though.

Lynn
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale

2006-04-28 Thread Chuck Landenberger


Alex  Dave...

Will the W124 Sportline Swarbay fit into a W201 16V and improve  
cornering and reduce body roll??


TIA,

Chuck
On Apr 27, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

I've had upgraded swaybars on my 124 for a couple of weeks now.  (I  
had my
indy do the rear bar as part of a thorough replacement of the wear  
parts
[mounts, links, etc.] in the rear end, and I did the front bar  
myself---a

trivial job.)  Reduce body roll is true but it seems like an
understatement!  I thought the change would be a subtle one, but it  
was
immediately noticeable and a MAJOR improvement.  Ride quality  
doesn't seem

to be affected at all, but the car is absolutely flat now through most
average-speed turns and only leans a little through high-speed turns.
Stability in highway lane changes and similar maneuvers is much  
better.


Despite Dave's frequent recommendations for the 500E bar in the  
rear and the
124 LWB limo bar (slightly fatter than the 500E bar) in the  
front, I went
with a matched set of 500E bars, and am glad I did.  In fact, if I  
get the
hankering to tinker I might go to a smaller-diameter bar in the  
front, like
the 400E or Sportline bars which are in-between the 500E and stock  
300E/D in
size.  The fat bar in the front seems to increase understeer quite  
a bit,

and I like the handling to be more neutral.  I suspect that additional
suspension tweaks, or the ability to steer the car with the  
throttle that

300-some HP gives you (or both), canceled this effect out in the 500E.

Regardless, it's a huge improvement and I am thoroughly spoiled  
now---I'll

have to make this mod to any future 124s I buy as well.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper

On 4/24/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


They will reduce body roll. I had that setup on both my W124 diesels.

:)

-dm


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what do sportline swaybars do to the handling of a diesel 124?


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[MBZ] Thermostat replacement

2006-04-28 Thread David Brodbeck

About how much coolant do I need to drain to change the thermostat on an
OM617?  Will three gallons do it?


David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] Thermostat replacement

About how much coolant do I need to drain to change the thermostat on 
an

OM617?  Will three gallons do it?


Seems to me it's more like a gallon that has to come out.
Usually I just drain what will come out into a bucket, and
then pour it back in after the operation.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Benifit of drivinng a diesel


www.utahbiodieselsupply.com
I'll be making an order in the next week if you'd like to save on shipping  
and can wait until June...


On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:37:40 -0500, Christopher McCann  
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where are those from? Lots of BioD stuff on cafepress...never searched  
there for grease

Chris

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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:22:55 -0500, wilton strickland
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You can run it on soy oil from Sam's.

Wilton









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Re: [MBZ] A REAL nice 81 300Cd came by the office today

2006-04-28 Thread kevin kraly

$2500 sounds like a good deal if it's very nice!  I sold my '78 for $2700, 
and it had a very nice body and a fair interior (major dash and rear 
seatback cracking due to the california sun).  This '81 CD that I have does 
have a much better interior with minor splitting along the seams on the top 
of the seatback, but it looks like it can be stitched up easily by an 
upholsteror!


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[MBZ] Fuel mileage computers for diesels!!

2006-04-28 Thread kayoooh @ gmail

Hello List,
I am wondering if there is a portable or a semi portable mileage computer 
available out there  for diesel cars and or trucks!

I know of ones that are available for boats with diesel engines and I imagine 
the same could be available for automobiles. I'd rather not reinvent the wheel 
and build one from scratch (which would take forever to begin with)!!

Your valued input would be highly appreciated.

Omar.
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Hello List,

This question is directed in particular to those who drive Suburbans, although 
I have experienced the problem with other 4x4 as well!!

I would appreciate it if some of you can help me diagnose the following 
symptoms:

1- Braking is border line poor and that may and may not be related to my main 
complaint which is listed in item 2.

2- Upon applying the brakes, the steering wheel begins to oscillate in roughly 
a 10~15 degree arc about the vertical (vertical being the straight ahead 
position). 
The harder the application of the brakes, the more apparent the symptom is!

In my mind this could be related to: 

-Brake pads or
-Brake rotors or 
-Front wheel bearings or
Something else I am totally unaware of!

I'd would rather that someone who's been there would point me in the right 
direction before I start changing all of the above hoping to cure this problem.

The Suburban in question is a 4WD 1999 3/4 ton, with 155,000 miles.

Omar.
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel mileage computers for diesels!!

2006-04-28 Thread Trampas

Omar,

I have build a engine monitor which can be used as fuel computer.

www.sterntech.com 

Trampas

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Subject: [MBZ] Fuel mileage computers for diesels!!

Hello List,
I am wondering if there is a portable or a semi portable mileage computer
available out there  for diesel cars and or trucks!

I know of ones that are available for boats with diesel engines and I
imagine the same could be available for automobiles. I'd rather not reinvent
the wheel and build one from scratch (which would take forever to begin
with)!!

Your valued input would be highly appreciated.

Omar.
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Re: [MBZ] I love my 126

2006-04-28 Thread Levi Smith


Ooohh, man, I didn't even mention looks...  I'm not positive what a 300SD
looks like, but if it's anything like my 83' 300D, I know there are people
that think they're beautiful, but I certainly can't see it!  I do love the
looks of my Subaru.
My wife even agrees.  She loves her Subaru and calls the Benz the
mafia-mobile and not in an endearing term.  (:

But yes, above all else, we are all entitled to our opinions!  (:

Levi

On 4/27/06, ms. 300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Okay, Levi, you have your opinion, but here's mine.
Subarus are UULLLY.

300SD are the most beautiful car EVER made by anyone.

I just feel all luxurious and ensconced in the Beauty Car whenever I drive
it.  I love to float down the freeway and drive 300 miles then hop out of
the car all fresh like a flower.

Of course, it has had the maintenance it deserves, like new suspension and
everything but the steering box, and I'm getting a new one for my birthday
this summer. (Yay!)

Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a  teenage boy
to
Miss America.  It's just too bizarre for words.

Lynn
'85 300SD Victoria
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Re: [MBZ] I love my 126

2006-04-28 Thread Levi Smith


Hmm, I'm picturing my 83' 300D as more of the old-school russian women's
weight-lifting team with a bit of a mustache

Levi (:

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Sunil,
I think she's the gymnastics team captain that some guys lust after.

Ms. 300SD has better jewelry and more assets, though.

Lynn
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Re: [MBZ] Basic Gaskets

2006-04-28 Thread Tom Hargrave

I've pulled mine  reinstalled it along with permetex #2 gasket cement. The
advantage of permetex #2 is that it's non hardening.


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

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Subject: [MBZ] Basic Gaskets

OK, This is basic stuff.  But I've always wondered...
Is it necessary to replace the gasket everytime I remove and reinstall the
intake manifold on my 606?
The shop manual makes no mention of it.

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Brake issues on a 3/4 ton Suburban

2006-04-28 Thread Dave Wakin

Perhaps a front caliber is not engaging? Have you tried bleeding the brakes? 
Have you changed the brake fluid?



Dave W

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Subject: [MBZ] Brake issues on a 3/4 ton Suburban



Hello List,

This question is directed in particular to those who drive Suburbans, 
although I have experienced the problem with other 4x4 as well!!


I would appreciate it if some of you can help me diagnose the following 
symptoms:


1- Braking is border line poor and that may and may not be related to my 
main complaint which is listed in item 2.


2- Upon applying the brakes, the steering wheel begins to oscillate in 
roughly a 10~15 degree arc about the vertical (vertical being the straight 
ahead position).
The harder the application of the brakes, the more apparent the symptom 
is!


In my mind this could be related to:

-Brake pads or
-Brake rotors or
-Front wheel bearings or
Something else I am totally unaware of!

I'd would rather that someone who's been there would point me in the right 
direction before I start changing all of the above hoping to cure this 
problem.


The Suburban in question is a 4WD 1999 3/4 ton, with 155,000 miles.

Omar.
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Re: [MBZ] Thermostat replacement

2006-04-28 Thread l02turner

When I changed the t'stat in my 91 300D recently I bought a gallon of 
antifreeze at the dealer and used an add'l empty jug to pour half of the new 
stuff into.  I then filled both jugs (which were now both 1/2 filled with 
coolant - giving me 2 full gallons.  I ended up refilling the cooling system 
(don't forget to turn the heater to hot so it gets refilled also) with a 
little over a gallon of my coolant mixture into the system.


Good luck -
.
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Subject: [MBZ] Thermostat replacement



About how much coolant do I need to drain to change the thermostat on an
OM617?  Will three gallons do it?


David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale

Chuck,

There are different Sportline sway bars for the W201 chassis,
including a sort of stage 2 setup from the factory Evo II model
(201.036). However, I recall someone saying that the 124 front bar can
be made to fit a 201 if you cut an inch off each end, *and* flip the
mounting brackets on the frame around. I've never done this myself
though.

Glad you like the sway bars, Alex! I'm planning on upgrading to a 20mm
rear bar next, and leaving the limo front bar. That should help make
my car a tad more neutral (not that I have any complaints as-is,
though.)

:)

-dm

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale


 Alex  Dave...

 Will the W124 Sportline Swarbay fit into a W201 16V and improve
 cornering and reduce body roll??

 TIA,

Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale

2006-04-28 Thread Mitch Haley

Chuck Landenberger wrote:
 
 Alex  Dave...
 
 Will the W124 Sportline Swarbay fit into a W201 16V and improve
 cornering and reduce body roll??

SLS requires a special sway bar. Crawl under the car and check how the
control valve linkage connects to the center of the sway bar. 

Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Question on changing glow plugs in a 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

2006-04-28 Thread Marshall Booth


Robert Massmann wrote:
I looked at my CD maual tonight for changing the glow pugs on my 190.  I 
know when I was checking current draw that it was quite difficult to access 
the plugs themselves.  The manual didn't mention having to remove the intake 
manifold to complete the work.  I guess it is possible with the manifold in 
place but makes the job a lot tougher.  Are there any other things I should 
pay attention to when I change the plugs and when they are removed?


Buy a COMPLETE set of the plastic clips for the fuel lines and replace 
any that are broken. It's somewhat easier to do the job with the fuel 
lines out. It's even easier to do the job (a breeze) with the intake 
manifold off. That requires maybe 1/2 hours work and you can replace the 
manifold gasket (that is probably seeping some oil near the #2 
cylinder). Be sure you get the correct 27 mm Beru plug (0100221138 or 
0100221153) and not the shorter 23 mm plug used by later ('90s) engines.


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Re: [MBZ] Question on changing glow plugs in a 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

2006-04-28 Thread Marshall Booth


Marshall Booth wrote:

Robert Massmann wrote:
I looked at my CD maual tonight for changing the glow pugs on my 190.  I 
know when I was checking current draw that it was quite difficult to access 
the plugs themselves.  The manual didn't mention having to remove the intake 
manifold to complete the work.  I guess it is possible with the manifold in 
place but makes the job a lot tougher.  Are there any other things I should 
pay attention to when I change the plugs and when they are removed?


Buy a COMPLETE set of the plastic clips for the fuel lines and replace 
any that are broken. It's somewhat easier to do the job with the fuel 
lines out. It's even easier to do the job (a breeze) with the intake 
manifold off. That requires maybe 1/2 hours work and you can replace the 
manifold gasket (that is probably seeping some oil near the #2 
cylinder). Be sure you get the correct 27 mm Beru plug (0100221138 or 
0100221153) and not the shorter 23 mm plug used by later ('90s) engines.


Marshall


Bosch does not make a plug for this engine! The Mercedes part number is 
  000 159 96 01 or 000 159 99 01.


Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] Location of W124 CD Changer

2006-04-28 Thread andrew strasfogel


Go to http://www.beckerautosound.com wbesite to get ph. number.  Call and
and ask for Ed Ebel.



On 4/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You have to have another interface box that you order from the dealer.
IT was about $180 last time I ordered one about 8 years ago.  If you
were using an alpine instead of the factory one, you would also have to
order a couple of other adapters from a car audio store for about $75
each.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's a belated Thanks, Kaleb -

 I have the CD Changer and have the brackets on the way.  Are you
saying
 I'll need some wiring harness adapters to hook into the factory wiring?
 That's not a nice way for the factory to play!  They put a Becker
in-dash
 radio in then run wiring to the trunk for a Becker CD Changer - and
*still*
 they want to require an adapter??   Geez ---

 Any idea where I might find one of those adapters?

 Sincerely,
 Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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on yours it will be in the right trunk well area.  You have to get
adapters thought to hook it into the trunk control unit.

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Hello -
I finally found a Becker CD Changer to mount in my trunk.  It's an OEM
changer but zI need to know where they are typivcally installed.  Left
side,
right side, under the hat shelf?  In the depression behind the rear
tires?

Also - where will the factory installed wiring be tucked away?

Your help will greatly reduce the amount of time I need to spend
searching --

TIA!

Sincerely,
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Re: [MBZ] W123 euro



On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:20 AM, Joe Knight wrote:


If I had a blank
though it might be possible to grind it down to fit and epoxy it in
place.  Not finding that in the epc, has anyone got a p/n for switch
blanks?

joe



	My thoughts exactly. My Euro 201 has one blank in it. Send me a dead  
switch to fit the hole and it's yours. I know I saved some blanks but  
where is the question.
	I bet some earlier Euro cars that some listers have in stock have a  
switch in the correct size and shape for your application. perhaps  
someone will donate said switch. Black electrical tape carefully  
applied may go undetected, as an alternative.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD cooling problems redux



On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Kevin J. Slater wrote:

Anyone been there and done that and have a clue for me before I  
bite the

bullet and pull the radiator tonight?

...Kevin



	Pulling the radiator is what Ma Benz wants you to do. Removal is  
possible with radiator in place..with special tools.


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Re: [MBZ] W123 euro ?



On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Joe Knight wrote:


joe (the idiot with egg on his face)


Make an omelette.

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Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD Radiator Hose Fan Clutch service.



On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:11 PM, George Larribeau wrote:

What kind of water would one mix with the MB antifreeze? In the  
past I have been a believer in distilled (demonized if available)  
but heard otherwise.


	HH20 (aka holy water). Tap water will suffice if no priests are  
available.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Brake issues on a 3/4 ton Suburban

2006-04-28 Thread Rich Thomas

My sense is that the brakes on the Subs are not quite up to their task,
so they are loaded pretty heavily, which stresses both rotors (heat
warps them) and pads. First thing to check would be to make sure your
wheels are on tight! For bearings -- grab the tire (jacked off ground)
and giving it a shake to see if it wobbles much (a slight some is OK).
Then rotors-- take off tires, turn the rotors and look for any wobble
against the brake pads or just check with a gauge, or take them off, get
them turned, or just replace them (they are fairly cheap), They don't
owe you much after 7 years 155k.. Pads would not cause oscillation --
that is a rotor problem primarily.

Another thing to check is all the suspension and steering components.
Does your truck have the steering damper? Are the stabilizer links OK?
I had a jeep with a broken front stabilizer attachment bolt, that thing
would jump all over the place.

--R

kayoooh @ gmail wrote:

Hello List,

This question is directed in particular to those who drive Suburbans, although
I have experienced the problem with other 4x4 as well!!

I would appreciate it if some of you can help me diagnose the following
symptoms:

1- Braking is border line poor and that may and may not be related to my main
complaint which is listed in item 2.

2- Upon applying the brakes, the steering wheel begins to oscillate in roughly a 10~15 degree arc about the vertical (vertical being the straight ahead position).
The harder the application of the brakes, the more apparent the symptom is!

In my mind this could be related to:

-Brake pads or
-Brake rotors or
-Front wheel bearings or

Something else I am totally unaware of!

I'd would rather that someone who's been there would point me in the right
direction before I start changing all of the above hoping to cure this problem.

The Suburban in question is a 4WD 1999 3/4 ton, with 155,000 miles.

Omar.
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Re: [MBZ] 1982 MB 300CDT



On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Landenberger wrote:



Suggestions appreciated.

Best Regards
Dan


	The most common failure is a dirty switch, which is easily rectified  
by disassembly and cleaning. Putting 12v directly to the wires on the  
door will tell you if the motor is good reversing polarity reverses  
direction of rotation.


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Re: [MBZ] 92 Oldsmobile 98 still For sale

2006-04-28 Thread Curt Raymond

Spoken like somebody who's never had to actually DO it.
  At -20F there ain't no 240D NOWHERE gonna startup without help. It isn't 
going to happen. 3 winters with mine proved it out. The best I ever did was 
around -10F and that was very iffy. If my car had sat all week with the cold 
and clock sapping the battery theres no way it'd have started.
   
  Theres a guy on the Yahoo diesel Mercedes list who is setting up his son with 
2 big 6v batteries in the trunk with an inverter to power the blockheater while 
he's away at college. He's going to do what I never got around to and wire the 
heating batteries into the charging system so running the car will recharge 
them. Unfortunately considering the amount of short run driving I did while I 
was in college I think this will result in extra wear on the car just to charge 
those batteries but I guess it can't be helped.
   
  Of course I'm also of the mind that most college kids shouldn't have cars. 
When they're in college they should stay there all weekend, it builds character.
   
  -Curt
  quite a character, apparently from all those weekends spent in the dorm.
   
  Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:28:33 -0500
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Have you forgotten the mantra? Mobil1, new battery, adjusted valves,
good glow plugs, good starter, clean ground connections ---  starts
anywhere, anytime.
Now that the Audi Diesel won LeMans, No time is a good time to be
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On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:

 George Larribeau wrote:
 Are there any tricks to refilling it with coolant air bubbles and  
 the like?

I pull the highest temp sender on the engine to allow air to escape.  
Sometimes it is necessary to run the engine and shut it down when it  
starts getting hot repeating the process until it burps. Do not  
walk away while you're doing it or you may have a mess of coolant  
spraying.

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Unknown wire



On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Dennis Perkins wrote:


Does anyone have any
idea as to wether this is some kind of diagnostic connection or  
should it

hook up to something.


	IIRC the tach pick-up moved to the flywheel end of the engine  
starting in 84. Is it possible that the engine was replaced prior to  
you owning it?


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Benifit of drivinng a diesel

2006-04-28 Thread Curt Raymond

I was going to go get myself a membership to BJs and then I got thinking, how 
much do restaurants pay for oil? I wonder if I could buy enough at a time to 
get Sysco or one of the other restaurant supply outfits to deliver? Seems like 
that would be cheaper than BJs or Costco. Even if I couldn't get them to 
deliver I wonder if a friendly restaurant owner would order some for me?

  -Curt

  Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:02:07 -0500
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or free oil from your local fry pub!

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 You can run it on soy oil from Sam's.

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David Brodbeck wrote:
 About how much coolant do I need to drain to change the thermostat on an
 OM617?  Will three gallons do it?

 David Brodbeck
 '83 300D Turbo

12.5 liters to completely drain and refill the cooling system and heater 
core of an OM617.95 engined 123 or 126. That's 3.3 gallons. Most other 
Mercedes diesels use less.

To just change the thermostat you do not need to drain the cooling 
system. You may lose a few qt.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Benifit of drivinng a diesel

2006-04-28 Thread Christopher McCann

You can DEFINITELY order in bulk - 1,000 liter plastic jugs that come  in an 
aluminum crate called a tote. I think it was $1.68/gallon last  time I checked 
*soybean oil). Just look up oil in the yellow pages -  edible. If you are in a 
big city, no problem.
  
  BTW, that is how it;s done in Germnay. Bulk VO is SOOO much cheaper  than 
fuel, they don't even mess with used oil. One guy I read about has  a truck 
come to his house and fill up the totes - 2 at a time!
  
  Chris

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restaurant owner  would order some for me?
   
  -Curt
   
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or free oil from your local fry pub!

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We didn't have space at the house for a another vehicle that is not a =
daily driver.  We felt that with all of the landscaping and other home =
improvement projects that we needed a truck to haul it with.  I wasn't =
really looking for a another vehicle but when I saw the ad for high fuel =
mileage at interstate states; I has to check it out.

I had heard of chipping some of the newer diesel trucks to get almost =
30MPG but after you spend $40K for the truck and $5K-7$ for chipping  =
it is simply not worth it.

Todd Smith  '85 300CD 248K

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In preparing for the inevitable death of my Dakota I've been researching =
pickups and find that its tough to get even what I'd consider reasonable =
mileage.
  Everybody says the EPA estimates are low. I find that odd because I =
seem to always do better. My Dakota averages around 18mpg, the EPA =
estimate is 17mpg highway, 14mpg city. Worst I've ever done was 10mpg =
towing nearly 6000#.

Re: [MBZ] Brake issues on a 3/4 ton Suburban

2- Upon applying the brakes, the steering wheel begins to oscillate in 
roughly a 10~15 degree arc about the vertical (vertical being the 
straight ahead position).
The harder the application of the brakes, the more apparent the 
symptom is!


Rotors!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Fuel mileage computers for diesels!!

I am wondering if there is a portable or a semi portable mileage 
computer available out there  for diesel cars and or trucks!


In the Dodge diesel pickup the factory mileage computer is open-loop,
in that it's not measuring fuel consumption at all.  (This is difficult
to do, especially with a fuel return line to measure also.)  Instead
it just measures the position of the fuel rack and consults its internal
table of fuel delivery to _assume_ what is being consumed.  Tolerably
accurate, unless there is something wrong or modifications have been
made.  Certainly as accurate as, let us say, a temperature gauge that
only has two positions!

I have always assumed that this is because measuring true consumption
is difficult, expensive, or involves relatively unreliable sensors,
or some combination of the above.  I also assume that they pretty
much all do it this way, so it's not like the junkyards are filled
with easily-salvageable fuel flow sensors.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Brake issues on a 3/4 ton Suburban

2006-04-28 Thread Michael

Sounds very much like your rotors have been warped and are in need of:

a) replacement

b) turning on a brake lathe

-Michael

-Original Message-
From: Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Apr 28, 2006 8:29 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake issues on a 3/4 ton Suburban

Perhaps a front caliber is not engaging? Have you tried bleeding the brakes? 
Have you changed the brake fluid?


Dave W

- Original Message - 
From: kayoooh @ gmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:29 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Brake issues on a 3/4 ton Suburban


 Hello List,

 This question is directed in particular to those who drive Suburbans, 
 although I have experienced the problem with other 4x4 as well!!

 I would appreciate it if some of you can help me diagnose the following 
 symptoms:

 1- Braking is border line poor and that may and may not be related to my 
 main complaint which is listed in item 2.

 2- Upon applying the brakes, the steering wheel begins to oscillate in 
 roughly a 10~15 degree arc about the vertical (vertical being the straight 
 ahead position).
 The harder the application of the brakes, the more apparent the symptom 
 is!

 In my mind this could be related to:

 -Brake pads or
 -Brake rotors or
 -Front wheel bearings or
 Something else I am totally unaware of!

 I'd would rather that someone who's been there would point me in the right 
 direction before I start changing all of the above hoping to cure this 
 problem.

 The Suburban in question is a 4WD 1999 3/4 ton, with 155,000 miles.

 Omar.
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Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD cooling problems redux

2006-04-28 Thread Marshall Booth


Kevin J. Slater wrote:

Ok, last night I replace the old water pump with a shiny new (Geba) one
from Rusty. When I was disassebmling I had a heck of a time getting the
metal fan past the viscous clutch on the front of the water pump. I was
able to get it past with a little bit of wiggle and force.

The same can't be said for the reassembly. I can't see how it's possible
to get the fan back on the front of the viscous clutch without removing
the radiator. (Which I was trying to avoid.)

Anyone been there and done that and have a clue for me before I bite the
bullet and pull the radiator tonight?


Dave M.'s wisdom:


Hi Dave,

IIRC, the bolt is an 8mm Allen-head. DO NOT screw up the head of it!
Mercedes makes a special 3/8 drive 8mm socket wrench that is very stubby,
to allow removal with the radiator in place. If you don't have that, or the
nifty bolt spinner to back it out once it's loose, I highly recommend you
pull the radiator. It will save time in the long run. BT, DT. Also, the fan
 clutch come out as one piece, you don't need to remove the fan blade
first. The pulley holding tool is also a big help so the w/p won't spin.
Not sure if you can do the job without that.


He has posted pictures of the tools at various times.

http://www.w124performance.com/images/tools/OM60x_serp_belt_tools.jpg

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

I had heard of chipping some of the newer diesel trucks to get 
almost 30MPG but after you spend $40K for the truck and $5K-7$ for 
chipping  it is simply not worth it.


I have only heard of 'chipping' in conjunction with getting
more power, never for better economy.  Seems to me that if it
were that easy to get better mileage the maker would have already
done it.  (Versus trading off engine longevity for increased
power.)

I can get 26 MPG out of my '97 Dodge, if I'm willing to go 55.
No chip required!  I'm sure that qualifies as almost 30 in
the world of advertising.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Benifit of drivinng a diesel

2006-04-28 Thread andrew strasfogel


That begs the question - at what price does free used veggie fryer oil
become more expensive than wholesale ($1.68/gal or less) virgin soy oil
due to filtration and processing costs incurred with transforming the used
stuff into biodiesel?  Or does the used fryer oil only make sense for the
home brewer making small batches, who can't handle a delivery of 1,000
gallons from Sysco?



On 4/28/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You can DEFINITELY order in bulk - 1,000 liter plastic jugs that come  in
an aluminum crate called a tote. I think it was $1.68/gallon last  time I
checked *soybean oil). Just look up oil in the yellow pages -  edible. If
you are in a big city, no problem.

BTW, that is how it;s done in Germnay. Bulk VO is SOOO much cheaper  than
fuel, they don't even mess with used oil. One guy I read about has  a truck
come to his house and fill up the totes - 2 at a time!

Chris

Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I  was going to go get myself a
membership to BJs and then I got thinking,  how much do restaurants pay for
oil? I wonder if I could buy enough at  a time to get Sysco or one of the
other restaurant supply outfits to  deliver? Seems like that would be
cheaper than BJs or Costco. Even if I  couldn't get them to deliver I wonder
if a friendly restaurant owner  would order some for me?

-Curt

Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 22:02:07 -0500
From: Luther Gulseth
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Benifit of drivinng a diesel
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15

or free oil from your local fry pub!

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:22:55 -0500, wilton strickland
=

wrote:

 You can run it on soy oil from Sam's.

 Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale

2006-04-28 Thread Zeitgeist


Ya, I've been wondering how I could upgrade the TD to a fatter bar,
but didn't want to mess with the SLS, especially if I had to fab the
linkage.

On 4/27/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


SLS requires a special sway bar. Crawl under the car and check how the
control valve linkage connects to the center of the sway bar.


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (213k)
'84 300D (211k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD cooling problems redux

2006-04-28 Thread Kevin J. Slater

Dave (and the others that responded),

Typical Mercedes thing. Take the fan off the clutch and it's possible,
though hard to remove. Separated, it's impossible to replace without
removing the radiator. Put it back on the clutch and it's possible to
replace; and I didn't even buy the custom tools.

Thanks for the help Dave.

...Kevin

Dave M. said:
 Kevin,

 It sounds like you are trying to mount the clutch to the water pump,
 then attach the fan blade separately? That would be awfully hard, if
 not impossible. The blade and clutch should stay attached. You install
 the water pump by itself, then drop the clutch+fan down the front and
 bolt it on with the single 8mm Allen-head bolt. This is very, very
 hard to do with the radiator in place if you don't have the bolt
 spinner tool, and the stubby socket. You've got two options:

 1) Pull the radiator. It will be easier in the long run, and gives you
 an excuse to blow the radiator  condenser fins out with compressed
 air.

 2) Buy the stubby socket and fabricate the spinner tool. Photos are here:
 http://www.w124performance.com/images/tools/OM60x_serp_belt_tools.jpg


 With the correct tools (shown in the photo above), I can have the fan
 + clutch removed in literally less than 5 minutes. It's worth the tool
 cost for the time savings if you own a 124/603 and do your own work...

 :-)

 -dm


 --
 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:21:22 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD cooling problems redux


 Ok, last night I replace the old water pump with a shiny new (Geba) one
 from Rusty. When I was disassebmling I had a heck of a time getting the
 metal fan past the viscous clutch on the front of the water pump. I was
 able to get it past with a little bit of wiggle and force.

 The same can't be said for the reassembly. I can't see how it's possible
 to get the fan back on the front of the viscous clutch without removing
 the radiator. (Which I was trying to avoid.)

 Anyone been there and done that and have a clue for me before I bite the
 bullet and pull the radiator tonight?

 ...Kevin
 87 300TD 283k mi (and holding)

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Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD cooling problems redux

2006-04-28 Thread Zeitgeist


fyi:  I built a very similar bolt spinner, but mine's made out of
aluminum bar.  It's so much lighter that I can spin that sucker off in
1/3 the time as Dave's clunky old-tech version.

On 4/27/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


2) Buy the stubby socket and fabricate the spinner tool. Photos are here:
http://www.w124performance.com/images/tools/OM60x_serp_belt_tools.jpg


With the correct tools (shown in the photo above), I can have the fan
+ clutch removed in literally less than 5 minutes. It's worth the tool
cost for the time savings if you own a 124/603 and do your own work...


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (212k)
'84 300D (211k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD cooling problems redux

2006-04-28 Thread Peter Frederick

I've done that job a couple times with a heavy wire to lock the hub 
(goes between the two raised ridges and into a hole in the hub), an 8mm 
allen wrench, and a bit of pipe for a handle.  Works perfectly.  There 
is NOT much room up there, you have to unscrew the bolt with a both 
hands (one index finger on each side), but it works.


I found it much faster to remove the fan clutch than to wrestle the 
belt on with the fan in place.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Pickups

2006-04-28 Thread Smith, Todd

Hello Jim,

I seem to remember hearing about with the newer Duramax trucks and some chip 
manufacturers claiming that you could bring the truck for low 20's to high 
20's.  I don't know how it would work but I guess that it could change fuel 
delivery and timing and reduce horsepower by a considerable margin to deliver 
better efficiency.

It is probably sold in the snake-oil counter of your local FLAPS. :)

Todd Smith '85 300CD 248K

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey
I have only heard of 'chipping' in conjunction with getting
more power, never for better economy.  Seems to me that if it
were that easy to get better mileage the maker would have already
done it.  (Versus trading off engine longevity for increased
power.)

Re: [MBZ] Nice 500E for sale


Yep, that belongs to a forum member at 500E.com, he's mentioned
several times that it would be coming up for sale soon. If I were in
the market for another 500E, I would probably grab this immediately at
the buy it now price. The top speed photo is interesting, as the
speedo is optimistic for the indicated RPM... should be 149mph at
5500rpm, not 160 (at least with stock gearing).

:)

--
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 95kmi  (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 263kmi (Sportline)


On 4/28/06, Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

TAKE A LOOK SEE AT THIS 500E !!

DWS

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Re: [MBZ] I love my 126

2006-04-28 Thread ms . 300SD


You've got a 123 chassis, and the 300SD is a 126 chassis.  The 126 is more
luxurious, has a cushier ride and a sleeker, more elegant look.  See:


www.viewimages.mbz.org/by_chassis/Coupe/

Scroll down and see the more modern cars.

Lynn

Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale

2006-04-28 Thread Sunil Hari


How hard is it to install sway bars on a 92 300D?  If it improves handling
and it's an easy install, I'm interested ...

On 4/28/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ya, I've been wondering how I could upgrade the TD to a fatter bar,
but didn't want to mess with the SLS, especially if I had to fab the
linkage.

On 4/27/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 SLS requires a special sway bar. Crawl under the car and check how the
 control valve linkage connects to the center of the sway bar.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (213k)
'84 300D (211k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

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Re: [MBZ] air compressors

2006-04-28 Thread J.B. Hebert

My compressor calls for 30 weight non-detergent oil.  I found some 
Mobile 1 compressor oil that meets the specifications and used that.


Regards,

J.B. Hebert

At 07:30 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote:


what is the preferred oil for an air compressor?  M1 or do I need a
special oil?  TIA all,

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Re: [MBZ] Oil dipstick level

2006-04-28 Thread Zoltan Finks


Thanks.

Brian


On 4/27/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Zoltan Finks wrote:
 Ah. Very good. Curious, though: Recommended by whom? Certainly not
Mercedes?

WRONG! To quote from Mercedes Technical Service Bulletin 00/57A issued
11/95:

Ideally, the engine oil level should be around halfway between the MAX
and MIN marks on the oil dipstick.

Also the customer should refrain from frequently topping off the
engine oil level.

I recommend never adding oil until the level drops BELOW the MIN mark
and then adding 1 qt.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale


I am almost certain that on the 124, you don't need to worry about
SLS, other than stretching the U-clamp or something. Should definitely
be doable. I never checked the Euro EPC to see if MB sells a larger
clamp for Sportline models with SLS. (Hmmm, might even be some USA
models with that too.) I'll take a peek when I have a chance.

:)

-dm


--
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:44:40 -0700
From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale


Ya, I've been wondering how I could upgrade the TD to a fatter bar,
but didn't want to mess with the SLS, especially if I had to fab the
linkage.

Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale


Sunil,

The front bar is pretty easy... about an hour if you are mechanically
inclined. The rear bar is much more work, took me about 4 hours the
first time I did it, but with practice I can now do it in less than 1
hour. The procedure for the rear bar is on my website. No procedure
needed for the front, just don't tighten the clamps until the car is
settled on the ground in ready to drive position.

:)

-dm


--
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:44:05 -0700
From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Sportline swaybars for sale


How hard is it to install sway bars on a 92 300D?  If it improves handling
and it's an easy install, I'm interested ...

[MBZ] Coolant Question

2006-04-28 Thread R A Bennell

Ok, so remind me, why do I want to pay through the nose for MB coolant or look 
around until I find someone who has
Zerex G-05?

My car is a 1976 115 300D. It is 30 years old and I have had it for almost a 
year. It has green coolant in it now.
It may have had green coolant for the past 25 years. I will never know.

The rad looks a bit crusty inside. Notwithstanding that, it seemed fine last 
summer. It climbed to temperature and
sat there evenly. I did not have the AC working so maybe I was not putting real 
stress on the cooling system. I
hope to get the AC working so I may need to be concerned about that.

At any rate, my understanding is that the good stuff has some better 
qualities in regard to anti-corrosion. Am I
worried about the engine internals or jsut things like the radiator if I 
continue using the easily obtainable and
reasonably inexpensive anti-freeze mixed with water at around a 50/50 mix?

Am I going to improve something if I do switch to the approved stuff?

Am I going to regret it if I don't switch?

Bear in mind that I like this car and it seems to be in remarkable condition 
for its age. It do not want to harm it
but I have to wonder if it is a bit anal to spend an arm and a leg on 
anti-freeze.

I am still running Shell Rotella oil. I have not switched to synthetic, 
although I may at some point. I changed oil
when I got it and again before I put it away for the winter. I have yet to 
adjust valves or check compression etc
so I don't know the exact status of the engine at this time. I drove it a 
couple of thousand miles last summer
between July when I acquired it and November 1 when I put it away for the 
winter. Some short trips around town and
a 3 o4r 4 trips in excess of 200 miles each. It ran fine. Shifts hard when cold 
but otherwise didn't do anything
that caused me any alarm.

So, again, what say the gurus?

Randy B

Re: [MBZ] Nice 500E for sale

2006-04-28 Thread Gary Hurst


i wish some of those guys would buy parts from bimby.  i've got this
expensive ad going there, but no sales.

On 4/28/06, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yep, that belongs to a forum member at 500E.com, he's mentioned
several times that it would be coming up for sale soon. If I were in
the market for another 500E, I would probably grab this immediately at
the buy it now price. The top speed photo is interesting, as the
speedo is optimistic for the indicated RPM... should be 149mph at
5500rpm, not 160 (at least with stock gearing).

:)

--
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 95kmi  (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 263kmi (Sportline)


On 4/28/06, Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 TAKE A LOOK SEE AT THIS 500E !!

 DWS

 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4635447889


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Re: [MBZ] Coolant Question

2006-04-28 Thread Gary Hurst


the coolant story is a bit of a mystery.  nearly all MBs run the green
stuff.  nearly all of them with plastic neck radiators eventually break the
neck off.  when the neck breaks, people scream it was the green stuff.  as
there are virtually none out there that have lived their whole lives on the
benz stuff, we don't know whether they break their necks or not.

so the answer is that no one knows.

my though is to use what you want but change it often.  if you change it
annually, i don't think it will matter a hill of beans on a 76 300D.


On 4/28/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ok, so remind me, why do I want to pay through the nose for MB coolant or
look around until I find someone who has
Zerex G-05?

My car is a 1976 115 300D. It is 30 years old and I have had it for almost
a year. It has green coolant in it now.
It may have had green coolant for the past 25 years. I will never know.

The rad looks a bit crusty inside. Notwithstanding that, it seemed fine
last summer. It climbed to temperature and
sat there evenly. I did not have the AC working so maybe I was not putting
real stress on the cooling system. I
hope to get the AC working so I may need to be concerned about that.

At any rate, my understanding is that the good stuff has some better
qualities in regard to anti-corrosion. Am I
worried about the engine internals or jsut things like the radiator if I
continue using the easily obtainable and
reasonably inexpensive anti-freeze mixed with water at around a 50/50 mix?

Am I going to improve something if I do switch to the approved stuff?

Am I going to regret it if I don't switch?

Bear in mind that I like this car and it seems to be in remarkable
condition for its age. It do not want to harm it
but I have to wonder if it is a bit anal to spend an arm and a leg on
anti-freeze.

I am still running Shell Rotella oil. I have not switched to synthetic,
although I may at some point. I changed oil
when I got it and again before I put it away for the winter. I have yet to
adjust valves or check compression etc
so I don't know the exact status of the engine at this time. I drove it a
couple of thousand miles last summer
between July when I acquired it and November 1 when I put it away for the
winter. Some short trips around town and
a 3 o4r 4 trips in excess of 200 miles each. It ran fine. Shifts hard when
cold but otherwise didn't do anything
that caused me any alarm.

So, again, what say the gurus?

Randy B


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Re: [MBZ] Brake issues on a 3/4 ton Suburban

2006-04-28 Thread R A Bennell

I think brakes are considered a weak point on these trucks. The original stuff 
didn't last long.

I would guess that rotors need to be looked at and new pads installed. If that 
doesn't do it then calipers need to
be looked at.

Please fix it before you run into some poor person in a nice old Benz.

Randy B

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] Brake issues on a 3/4 ton Suburban


Hello List,

This question is directed in particular to those who drive Suburbans, although 
I have experienced the problem with
other 4x4 as well!!

I would appreciate it if some of you can help me diagnose the following 
symptoms:

1- Braking is border line poor and that may and may not be related to my main 
complaint which is listed in item 2.

2- Upon applying the brakes, the steering wheel begins to oscillate in roughly 
a 10~15 degree arc about the
vertical (vertical being the straight ahead position).
The harder the application of the brakes, the more apparent the symptom is!

In my mind this could be related to:

-Brake pads or
-Brake rotors or
-Front wheel bearings or
Something else I am totally unaware of!

I'd would rather that someone who's been there would point me in the right 
direction before I start changing all of
the above hoping to cure this problem.

The Suburban in question is a 4WD 1999 3/4 ton, with 155,000 miles.

Omar.
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