Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas to ALL

2006-12-24 Thread OK Don

and to ALL, a good night!

On 12/24/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Merry Christmas to ALL
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.


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[MBZ] Merry Christmas to ALL

2006-12-24 Thread Marshall Booth

Merry Christmas to ALL
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-24 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Larry-is that a 124 like the 300CE?
Merry Christmas to you. 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852

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Subject: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

A friend is cosidering a low mileage E320 Coupe - it doesn't leak which is 
evidently a common problem - anyway - any things to bite him?

Thx -
Merry Christmas -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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[MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy

2006-12-24 Thread LarryT
A friend is cosidering a low mileage E320 Coupe - it doesn't leak which is 
evidently a common problem - anyway - any things to bite him?


Thx -
Merry Christmas -

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Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas

2006-12-24 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Yes ditto greetings worldwide.  Remember that Benz et cie wanted the star to
symbolize land, air & sea (boat, plane and auto engines.)
Enjoy all,
Dwight.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 12:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas to everyone.

So far we have had greetings from East to West, North to South in the 
continental US as well as greetings from Hawaii and Alaska and 
Germany.  Pretty interesting how far flung our friends and relatives have 
become.

Looks like we are going to have good weather here.  Chance of snow, but 
mostly in the 40s daytime and 20s at night.   All that freeze-thaw is good 
for those in the basement repair and asphalt/concrete business.

Now if D-C or MBUSA would just reward us for our loyalty with free parts 
for a year!



Loren Faeth
88TE
87TD
87SDL
86SDL
85 380SL (Daughter's)
81 240D
80 240D
66 200D 2.4 (Son's)
66 200D (since 1972)
Better copy and paste this list if you are interested.   I won't type it 
out again til next Christmas
Junkers:
64 190Dc
65 190Dc
220Sb
250S
450SL
76 300D 115 


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Re: [MBZ] License plate fun

2006-12-24 Thread Loren Faeth
I like the OM 617 one.  I see the ALPCA meeing is in Downtown Dunkerton in 
March!  Sounds exciting!


Mebbe some year if I invest in vanity plates I should get OM 603, or OM616 
or OM 621 or...M103 or. Hmm


At 12:51 PM 12/24/2006, you wrote:

I've always liked this one:  http://thomas.savage.org/plate.jpg

I was at an ALPCA meet once (http://www.alpca.org/ - yes there exist bigger
nerds than old diesel owners) and a guy had a display containing 3M TA3
plates from three different states.

Just yesterday I saw one you'd appreciate, Loren.  Frod Escort ZX2,
festooned with perhaps 15 or 20 political bumper stickers, all left wing
freak show-type stuff.  Missouri license plate UMMM OK.  All I could think
was, "Indeed."


Loren Faeth 





Re: [MBZ] License plate fun

2006-12-24 Thread tom savage

I've always liked this one:  http://thomas.savage.org/plate.jpg

I was at an ALPCA meet once (http://www.alpca.org/ - yes there exist bigger
nerds than old diesel owners) and a guy had a display containing 3M TA3
plates from three different states.

Just yesterday I saw one you'd appreciate, Loren.  Frod Escort ZX2,
festooned with perhaps 15 or 20 political bumper stickers, all left wing
freak show-type stuff.  Missouri license plate UMMM OK.  All I could think
was, "Indeed."

Merry Christmas everyone.  I'll be spending it en route to Red China.

Tom

On 12/24/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


These are all stock state issued plates:  (Not vanity plates)




[MBZ] For all the Flyers on both MB lists...!

2006-12-24 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Greetings all ...   

What with all the discussion about Apple vis-a-vis PC's, I took a  
look at some of the stuff on the Apple website and came across this.


It's a movie about flying-   "OneSixRight"..  The  
producer made it using off the shelf Mac/Apple "stuff"..  But,  
that's not important


Cheap Charlie, Wilton, Lt Don and all the flyers and wannabe flyers  
on the lists


Go to

www.onesixright.com ..  Click on Video, then Opening  
Sequence, Flight and Look, Ma No Hands   (Needs Windows Media Player  
or QuickTime Player...)


And then, sit back and really enjoy!!!

And a BIG Merry Christmas

Take care,

Chuck    A wannabe flyer...  Closest I got was flying the wind in  
a sailboat in 20 knots on the Chesapeake.

Phoenix and now Kailua, Hawaii for the holidays..



[MBZ] License plate fun

2006-12-24 Thread Loren Faeth

These are all stock state issued plates:  (Not vanity plates)

The one I liked was in Lee county, IAxxxMOGGreat plate for a 
Mogger!  Back in the 70s, I had xxxDIN on my 200D for several years.  I 
hated to let that one go!


Where would you expect to see a plate that saysxxxCYA?
Sounds like something you'd expect to see on a vanity plate in Washington 
DC, doesn't it?

Read on, I'll give you the answer in a minute.

For Chuck L and any other Hawaiians lurking on the list:

xxxPOG
xxxPOIBoth observed in Story County, IA  IN fact, my future 
Daughter-in-law has an xxxPOI plate.


Now where was that CYA plate?

Where would it be?


Where could it be?


Washington for sure!

Washington county, IA  and that includes the city of Washington IA

Where but in Washington is CYA the mode of operation?


Loren Faeth 





[MBZ] Anyone in the Houston/Port Authur/Galveston area?

2006-12-24 Thread Loren Faeth
We leave tomorrow for what has become an annual trip to the Gulf coast for 
a few days.  Looks like we are headed to Port Arthur/Galveston this 
time.  If anyone in the area is interested in meeting for a 
coffee/pop/barleypop and some MB talk somewhere in the wed-friday time 
frame, let me know.




Loren Faeth 





[MBZ] Merry Christmas

2006-12-24 Thread Loren Faeth

Merry Christmas to everyone.

So far we have had greetings from East to West, North to South in the 
continental US as well as greetings from Hawaii and Alaska and 
Germany.  Pretty interesting how far flung our friends and relatives have 
become.


Looks like we are going to have good weather here.  Chance of snow, but 
mostly in the 40s daytime and 20s at night.   All that freeze-thaw is good 
for those in the basement repair and asphalt/concrete business.


Now if D-C or MBUSA would just reward us for our loyalty with free parts 
for a year!




Loren Faeth
88TE
87TD
87SDL
86SDL
85 380SL (Daughter's)
81 240D
80 240D
66 200D 2.4 (Son's)
66 200D (since 1972)
Better copy and paste this list if you are interested.   I won't type it 
out again til next Christmas

Junkers:
64 190Dc
65 190Dc
220Sb
250S
450SL
76 300D 115 





Re: [MBZ] Apple

2006-12-24 Thread LarryT
I bought a laptop at a local Gateway store also - bought the extended 
service for it also.  The extended service worked pretty well - and a laptop 
is one of the few purchases I make where I always get the extended warranty. 
And I used the warranty 2-4 times per year the whole time I used that puter. 
They were pretty efficient - I'd call with a problem and we'd fix it over 
the phone if possible - if not they'd send a box to ship it back and when I 
was ready for it to be picked up I'd call DHS and they'd come get it.4-5 
days later it'd come back fixed.


The Gateway store I visited was different from your experience - clean, 
bright - maybe mine was new?  Lots of helpful salespeople but the techies 
were elsewhere -- 

I now have a Acer from Circuit City -  haven't needed warranty repair 
fortunately -


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- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apple


i bought my pc at a gateway store.  i went there out of desperation after 2
comp;uters from costco failed out of the box and the only thing i could do
was call india and talk to a fellow who had no clue what i was saying.

the gateway store was dismal.  dirty. disorganized.   the sales staff was
unhappy and unhelpful.  the tech guys were bewildered and overwhelmed trying
to keep the junk working.

so i explained my situation to one of the tech guys, about how all i was
looking for was someone to actually fix any problem that should arise out of
the box.  he then explained how they were weeks if not months behind and
that it wouldn't be likely that gateway would be any help to me either.  i
then explained that he has mistaken me for those other bastards and that i
would gladly pay him a tribute to move to the front of the line. i was
assured his immediate personal attention, so i bought a gateway.

I imagine that apple stores are not quite like this, huh?


On 12/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Apple Computer has shown people will gladly part with money at its candy
stores for geeks.

But here's a little-known fact: Apple's chic stores don't just sell more
per
square foot than even Best Buy, they beat some of the best in the luxury
retail world silly, according to a report released Tuesday by Bernstein
Research
analyst Toni Sacconaghi.

Apple's stores have hauled in annual sales per square foot of $4,032,
compared with Best Buy's $930, Neiman Marcus' $611, and luxury store
Tiffany & Co.'s
$2,666, according to Bernstein.

It's a wild contrast to the failure of Apple rivals such as Gateway to
break
into the retail market.

Apple's recipeworks like crack. Apple gives customers instant
gratification
by keeping inventory in stores, unlike its rivals. Apple has opened its
stores
slowly, building up anticipation for its stores. Finally, those stores are
some of the toniest in retail—encouraging customers to drop far more money
than
they might in a dusty computer shop or utilitarian web site.

"This may be as much an indicator that Apple's store placement is better
than Tiffany's," Enderle Group analyst Rob Enderle said.

Apple's success comes despite Gateway's retail disaster. When Apple pushed
into retail in 2001 Gateway had just shut down 10 percent of its Gateway
Country Stores. Gateway closed the last of its stores in 2004.

By contrast, Apple, known for its premium products, has successfully
pushed a
higher-margin business while other computer makers have duked it out over
razor-thin margins. Apple stores, on average under 6,000 square feet, each
bring
in more than $23 million in annual sales, according to the Bernstein
report.
That compares with annual sales per store of $38 million at Best Buy,
which has
stores about seven times larger.

"If you're measuring a store in terms of production per store, that's
pretty
impressive," Mr. Enderle said. "That should be a wakeup for Best Buy."

Apple's stellar store sales are also in sharp contrast to Circuit City
Stores, which reported a loss Tuesday, and Best Buy, which last week
reported profit
weaker than expected.

It might not come as much of a surprise that Best Buy's sales team of blue
shirts is moving significantly lower sales per square foot than Apple's
salespeople. Plus, it certainly can't hurt to have stores such as its
Fifth Avenue
Gallery store in New York City look more like a small museum designed in
the form
of a glass box. That attracts people alone.

Indeed, Mr. Sacconaghi said that Apple's retail stores have played a
significant part in Apple's success over the past five years.

"Our research points to Apple stores having boosted revenue and margins
over
the last five years, alt

Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators

2006-12-24 Thread Bob Rentfro
Tickets for that are a tad pricey...my from Okie Dr. bud paid $1000 for his 
family of four to go and I think the view of the field from his seats will 
look like they are watching from the space shuttle.
There are other people who own homes within walking distance of the stadium 
have rented their houses out to either Fla or Okie people for days 
surrounding the game day. They are making sic piles of money. They plan on 
doing the same when the Super Bowl is here in '08.
I live about 8 miles away from the stadium and I expect my traffic world to 
be messed up by both of those games.


Bob R.

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators



One of my buddies [about a dozen years ago in Lakeland, FL] used to get
calls at home from the power company he worked for asking him to watch his
lights and let them know how bright they were.
I've been a bit busy for a time so might have missed the holiday 
greetings -

But everyone do have a Merry Christmas and a really great new year.
If you happen to have a couple of extra tickets for the FL - OSU game my 
SiL

is looking to buy them
BillR
Jacksonville, FL
1981 300SD  282k

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Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 9:02 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators


It may be hard to believe but some places still sync manually with lights
and occasionally sync out of phase and shear the coupling bolts (per
design). Most of course have an automated procedure removing the human
element.

Dennis T.

-Original Message-
Once upon a time it was done by someone watching a set of phasing lights
and throwing a switch when everything was in phase.  I imagine it's
automated, now.

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Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators

2006-12-24 Thread BillR
One of my buddies [about a dozen years ago in Lakeland, FL] used to get
calls at home from the power company he worked for asking him to watch his
lights and let them know how bright they were.
I've been a bit busy for a time so might have missed the holiday greetings -
But everyone do have a Merry Christmas and a really great new year.
If you happen to have a couple of extra tickets for the FL - OSU game my SiL
is looking to buy them
BillR
Jacksonville, FL
1981 300SD  282k

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of woodlandtaylors
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 9:02 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators


It may be hard to believe but some places still sync manually with lights
and occasionally sync out of phase and shear the coupling bolts (per
design). Most of course have an automated procedure removing the human
element.

Dennis T.

-Original Message-
Once upon a time it was done by someone watching a set of phasing lights
and throwing a switch when everything was in phase.  I imagine it's
automated, now.

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Re: [MBZ] 1993 190E2.3 --- 2 issues

2006-12-24 Thread kok.hong

Thanks, I will try to look at the cold start valve next week when I
have more time in my hand.

Sorry, the radio does work; whether the output from the left or
right to the left speakers, there are sound.  Only to the right
speakers is "soundless" but I can hear the bass.  Sorry, I may
have not explain the problem well.

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1993 190E2.3 --- 2 issues



Though I've never worked on one of these, I'm guessing that it works
like the CIS fuel injection on my 450SLC. My guess is that the cold
start valve (http://tinyurl.com/y5mmxz) is not working. You can test
it when the engine is cold by removing it from the intake manifold,
re-connecting it to the fuel line and the electrical connection, hold
it over a jar, and have someone try to start the car. You should see
fuel spraying into the jar. If not, either the thermostat that sends
the signal to it is bad, or the cold start valve is bad.

I think that the radio is defective - the right stereo channel is not 
working.


On 12/23/06, kok.hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,

I need help on the above car and had been friutless.

a) when car is cold, I had difficulty in starting.  if the temperatures
dropped to 40F or low, I had to try as many as 7 cranks before it
could run.  And during summer, it takes 3 times to crank it.
--- usually after the 3rd crank (in the cold) it would run only for
2 seconds before it died.  So, as I crank more times, it last a
little bit longer.  Condition of battery is 2 year old, car has 112K
miles on it and is garaged.  Once it runs/idles well, I have no
more problem in starting again.  But when cold, it starts all over
again.

b) recently I did replaced the original radio with a in-dash CD.
I had sound on the left side speakers but very low or no sound
on the right side speakers.  I did crossed the wires from the radio
(left out) to right speakers and no sound, but right out to left speakers
I do have sound.  How can I resolve this problem?

Thanks for your help
K.S.
'90 560SEL
'93 190E2.3
'99 E320 4matic



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Re: [MBZ] Christmas greetings

2006-12-24 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and Happy Holidays to all M-B addicts on 
these nets!


Werner
'90 300D
'83 300SD


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From: "Euan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 11:17 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Christmas greetings from the Antipodes



It's the evening of Christmas Eve here in the colonies.

I hope you guys (and gals) have a very relaxing Christmas with your
families.

And thanks for all the fine advice received during the year.

Look forward to communicating with you in 2007.

Regards

Euan
Christchurch
New Zealand 





Re: [MBZ] Christmas greetings from the Antipodes

2006-12-24 Thread LT Don

Damn'd time zones keep interfering with The Flat Earth Society, don't they?

On 12/23/06, Euan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It's the evening of Christmas Eve here in the colonies.

I hope you guys (and gals) have a very relaxing Christmas with your
families.

And thanks for all the fine advice received during the year.

Look forward to communicating with you in 2007.

Regards

Euan
Christchurch
New Zealand

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[MBZ] Christmas greetings from the Antipodes

2006-12-24 Thread Euan
It's the evening of Christmas Eve here in the colonies. 

I hope you guys (and gals) have a very relaxing Christmas with your 
families.


And thanks for all the fine advice received during the year.

Look forward to communicating with you in 2007.

Regards

Euan
Christchurch
New Zealand



[MBZ] 2.3 Poor Start

2006-12-24 Thread Frederick W Moir

Hi, All.
This may not apply to a 1990+ 2.3, however my '85 190E 2.3 became 
very hard to start cold and difficult to start warm. I tried all of 
the usual suspects. Spark was OK and in time, compression to spec. 
and even,  fuel system, cold start etc. etc. (VW trained me on the 
CIS system and I also practiced on Saabs.in the 80's.). Anywho, my 85 
190E 2.3 had an after market rotor, make in East Bu***ck  that was 
all burned away. No "T" at the end of the rotor, massive amounts of 
flame/smoke residue inside the cap, etc. A genuine Bosch (made in 
Spain) rotor and cap worked wonders. YMMV.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
p.s. That it still ran quite well, once started, is a testament to 
the MB ignition system.






Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip?

2006-12-24 Thread OK Don

New ones are $40 plus $6 shipping on eBay ---
http://tinyurl.com/y82hqe

Is Rusty in Norcross, GA ?

On 12/23/06, Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks everyone. After OK Don got back for buying his at the stealership for
$22.00 each I thought I would ask if anyone new where I might get them for a
more resonable price. I will check with Rusty and see what his prices are.



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Re: [MBZ] B1 gear up

2006-12-24 Thread LT Don

Very old news. Stuff happen, right? Bust NATOPS, bust a plane.

On 12/23/06, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Did I miss a B1 gear up landing?  Where?  When?

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Apple stores

2006-12-24 Thread RELNGSON
<>

Not exactly. You could wander over and take a look.

3393 Peachtree Rd. Lenox Square
4400 Ashford Dunwoody Rd.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip?

2006-12-24 Thread Richard Smith

Thanks everyone. After OK Don got back for buying his at the stealership for
$22.00 each I thought I would ask if anyone new where I might get them for a
more resonable price. I will check with Rusty and see what his prices are.

Thanks again for the feed back!


On 12/23/06, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Found the female pieces on Ebay in the right color for about 6 bucks.

On 12/23/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The local stealership charged me $22.00 each for them Friday -- they
> did comment that they had gone up from $15.00 last time he sold some.
>
> >
> > I get them from the dealer. I don't think there is any other source.
> > About $6 each last time I got them (I think).
> >
> > Marshall
>
> --
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> Norman, OK
> "The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
> exhausted all the alternatives."
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Re: [MBZ] Apple

2006-12-24 Thread Ed Booher

On 12/23/06, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

i bought my pc at a gateway store.  i went there out of desperation after 2
comp;uters from costco failed out of the box and the only thing i could do
was call india and talk to a fellow who had no clue what i was saying.

the gateway store was dismal.  dirty. disorganized.   the sales staff was
unhappy and unhelpful.  the tech guys were bewildered and overwhelmed trying
to keep the junk working.


Back in the day, way back in the way back. I applied for a position at
Gateway as a technician. I was certified in a couple of different
areas, coming out of a strong phone support position for a regional
ISP and needing work. What I was told, was that I just wasn't too
experienced or even over qualified. Gateway was looking for people
that pretty much knew nothing about computers, but liked to use them,
play with them, game with them, etc. They wanted to make sure they
could train their techs from the ground up and have people without any
"bad" habits, as the recruiter said. I knew how to put a sound card
into a PC, properly assign the IRQ's  (sighs, jumpers where have
you gone? :) )  and that meant I was already crossed off the list.

Didn't need to see my resume, didn't need to ask me any other
questions. I couldn't be "untrained" which, in my opinion, is why the
Gateway "Experience" did so poorly. You can not effectively train a
sales and support staff, from level -1, to a functioning and competent
workforce without extensive monetary investment (schooling, workshops,
etc) and *time*. It took me years to be a *good* support personnel.
Sure, several months and I could tell the customer what they wanted to
hear, but years is what it took to know my way around the inner
workings of human psyche for phone work.

That is where so many companies make their largest mistake. It isn't
outsourcing to India that is the problem, per se. (Though as someone
who has worked through the American support workforce, I do *not*
agree with it.) The problem is seasoned and trained technicians, that
can tell the customer to politely go screw himself, while keeping the
customer on their side and even apologizing for calling in the first
place when it is going to take 5 weeks minimum to resolve any problem
they have ... (I've worked in places with poor turn around time, the
stories I could tell) ... and make them *happy* to have dealt with you
 shot them all in the head and started with level -1 techs that
don't even speak English as a *second* language. For an Indian, with
all the dialects and such, it's more like a third, sometimes *fourth*
language.

*steps off the soap box*

I now return you to your regularly scheduled Mercedes rant.

Ed

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Re: [MBZ] 1993 190E2.3 --- 2 issues

2006-12-24 Thread OK Don

Though I've never worked on one of these, I'm guessing that it works
like the CIS fuel injection on my 450SLC. My guess is that the cold
start valve (http://tinyurl.com/y5mmxz) is not working. You can test
it when the engine is cold by removing it from the intake manifold,
re-connecting it to the fuel line and the electrical connection, hold
it over a jar, and have someone try to start the car. You should see
fuel spraying into the jar. If not, either the thermostat that sends
the signal to it is bad, or the cold start valve is bad.

I think that the radio is defective - the right stereo channel is not working.

On 12/23/06, kok.hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,

I need help on the above car and had been friutless.

a) when car is cold, I had difficulty in starting.  if the temperatures
dropped to 40F or low, I had to try as many as 7 cranks before it
could run.  And during summer, it takes 3 times to crank it.
--- usually after the 3rd crank (in the cold) it would run only for
2 seconds before it died.  So, as I crank more times, it last a
little bit longer.  Condition of battery is 2 year old, car has 112K
miles on it and is garaged.  Once it runs/idles well, I have no
more problem in starting again.  But when cold, it starts all over
again.

b) recently I did replaced the original radio with a in-dash CD.
I had sound on the left side speakers but very low or no sound
on the right side speakers.  I did crossed the wires from the radio
(left out) to right speakers and no sound, but right out to left speakers
I do have sound.  How can I resolve this problem?

Thanks for your help
K.S.
'90 560SEL
'93 190E2.3
'99 E320 4matic



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Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators

2006-12-24 Thread OK Don

Ahhh, I've never worked in a power generating plant, but -- I did
drive my '51 VW bug with no clutch and no synchros several times!


 For a nice automotive analogy, imagine driving a stickshift car that has no 
clutch,
nor even synchros.  It _can_ be done, just like porcupine reproduction.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] (no subject)

2006-12-24 Thread woodlandtaylors
All,

My daughters 1995 E300D has been a bit of a pain starting cold. It always
started but was rough and idling around 500 rpm. Increase the speed with gas
pedal and it would smooth out. I raised the idle to around 750, needs
reducing a bit now but at cold start the engine sounds like the governor is
cutting in and out at about 2 to 3 times a second, almost like an rpm
limiter.

Any thoughts?

Dennis T.




Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators

2006-12-24 Thread woodlandtaylors
It may be hard to believe but some places still sync manually with lights
and occasionally sync out of phase and shear the coupling bolts (per
design). Most of course have an automated procedure removing the human
element.

Dennis T.

-Original Message-
Once upon a time it was done by someone watching a set of phasing lights
and throwing a switch when everything was in phase.  I imagine it's
automated, now.

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Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators

2006-12-24 Thread Bob Rentfro
No more looking at lightsalthough the operator sync-ing on the generator 
watches a big old sync scope and closes the output breakers at the precise 
correct moment.


Bob R.


- Original Message - 
From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators



Jim Cathey wrote:

Clash of the Titans.  The new generator must be carefully synchronized
with the power grid it's joining or Bad Things will happen.  For a nice
automotive analogy, imagine driving a stickshift car that has no clutch,
nor even synchros.  It _can_ be done, just like porcupine reproduction.



Once upon a time it was done by someone watching a set of phasing lights
and throwing a switch when everything was in phase.  I imagine it's
automated, now.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

2006-12-24 Thread Bob Rentfro
That's kinda how they all work...except most don't have buckets of rocks on 
top of the control rods.
At most commerical plants the rods are big and heavy and gravity does a fine 
job.


Bob R



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Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)



Bob Rentfro wrote:

They're for safe plant shutdown after a loss of off site power to protect
the health and safety of the public
sound offical?



I toured the B Reactor Building at Hanford, earlier this year.  They had
an interesting emergency shutdown system -- big buckets full of rocks on
top of hydraulic rams.  In operation, the buckets were jacked up and
locked in place with electromagnets.  If power failed, they would drive
the rams back down, providing hydraulic pressure to push the control
rods into the core.


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

2006-12-24 Thread David Brodbeck
Rick Knoble wrote:
> Emergency generators at a power-plant Isn't that an oxymoron? LOL
>   

Not only that, substations have big battery banks.  They need something
to power the trip coils on the big circuit breakers, and if there's a
major short circuit there may not be any voltage to speak of available
on the line.




Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

2006-12-24 Thread David Brodbeck
Bob Rentfro wrote:
> They're for safe plant shutdown after a loss of off site power to protect 
> the health and safety of the public
> sound offical?
>   

I toured the B Reactor Building at Hanford, earlier this year.  They had
an interesting emergency shutdown system -- big buckets full of rocks on
top of hydraulic rams.  In operation, the buckets were jacked up and
locked in place with electromagnets.  If power failed, they would drive
the rams back down, providing hydraulic pressure to push the control
rods into the core.




Re: [MBZ] Power Plant generators

2006-12-24 Thread David Brodbeck
Jim Cathey wrote:
> Clash of the Titans.  The new generator must be carefully synchronized
> with the power grid it's joining or Bad Things will happen.  For a nice
> automotive analogy, imagine driving a stickshift car that has no clutch,
> nor even synchros.  It _can_ be done, just like porcupine reproduction.
>   

Once upon a time it was done by someone watching a set of phasing lights
and throwing a switch when everything was in phase.  I imagine it's
automated, now.



Re: [MBZ] 190D pics

2006-12-24 Thread David Brodbeck
Bob Rentfro wrote:
> They were, after three (or was it four) making me blow chunksworse than 
> any cheap wine hammerfest I ever was on.
>   

Ugh, that's not fun.

Vicodin works fine for me.  As far as I can tell its pain relieving
qualities are quite secondary.  After you take a couple you cease to
care whether or not you're in pain. ;)




Re: [MBZ] B1 gear up

2006-12-24 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Hi all,

I'm no pilot, but it looks like they deployed the flaps/spoilers  
(front and rear, if that's what they are called), but just FORGOT  
about wheels


Take care,

Chuck
On Dec 23, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:




wilton strickland wrote:


Did I miss a B1 gear up landing?  Where?  When?


The original thread title was "your tax dollars"...
http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html


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Re: [MBZ] Apple

2006-12-24 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Gary,

No, that's not quite what an Apple Store is like...  If I need some  
help and there's warranty or extended warranty, I can log onto  
apple.com and make an appointment w/a "genius" in my local Store in  
Chandler, AZ...  Take laptop/desktop in and they will generally take  
care of it even if I screwed it up.  I did that w/IPhoto and voila!,  
fixed.  I signed up for $99/year for mac.com and get storage/ 
synch/etc., /


FWIW, I've got an iBook G4 PowerPC w/OS 10.4.8 and an Emac (at home)  
w/Classic Environment...


Would never go back to PC.  But, if I need to, I can log onto  
mac.com on a PC and get my mail, etc.


And let's not forgetMERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND ALL WHOM YOU  
LOVE!!!


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Dec 23, 2006, at 1:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

i bought my pc at a gateway store.  i went there out of desperation  
after 2
comp;uters from costco failed out of the box and the only thing i  
could do

was call india and talk to a fellow who had no clue what i was saying.

the gateway store was dismal.  dirty. disorganized.   the sales  
staff was