Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION

2007-04-05 Thread Loren Faeth
yeah, but the conversion kit is about 2 grand, isn't it?  If I wanted a 123 
gasser, i'd opt for a southern 280e


At 09:00 AM 4/4/2007, you wrote:

OT ???

You can get a Weber conversion kit from JAM Engineering if you don't
want to mess with the Zeniths.

Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've got a line on a '69 230 that looks like it's in great shape,
 but the carbs are screwed up. Asking price $2500. Are these the
 impossible-to-tune carbs I've heard about occasionally on this list
 and should I avoid this car? How much would putting the carbs right
 cost, worst case, if I could find someone to do it (my indy's pretty
 good)? Other comments about this engine/car? Reliability? Power?
 Economy? Handling? Trans? My bride is lusting after a vintage benz,
 and this one's the right shape and color :-)

 Dan

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1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] pulling a 4Matic engine

2007-04-05 Thread Loren Faeth

Kaleb, can't be done.

You'll have to bring me the car and the engine.  Thanks!




Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Anybody been there?  I now have one and the engine is locked up.  Have
 new engine ready to go, just have to pull it out of the 4matic.  Looks,
 well, lets just say, not fun.
 --
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   92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
   89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
   81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] pulling a 4Matic engine

2007-04-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

OK, I will do that, I will trade that for your burgandy SDL

Loren Faeth wrote:

Kaleb, can't be done.

You'll have to bring me the car and the engine.  Thanks!




Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Anybody been there?  I now have one and the engine is locked up.  Have
new engine ready to go, just have to pull it out of the 4matic.  Looks,
well, lets just say, not fun.
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  92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] Shareholder meeting

2007-04-05 Thread RELNGSON
BERLIN – Shareholders strongly criticized DaimlerChrysler CEO Dieter Zetsche 
and D/C’s management during the annual shareholder meeting here today.
In heated remarks, shareholder after shareholder criticized D/C’s supervisory 
board for not selling the loss-making Chrysler group.
D/C has said it is considering all options, including the possible sale, of 
Chrysler. But shareholders said the company is not moving fast enough.
Press reports say Magna International and private equity groups Cerberus 
Capital Management and the Blackstone Group have submitted offers to buy 
Chrysler, 
D/C’s loss-making US unit.


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Re: [MBZ] pulling a 4Matic engine

2007-04-05 Thread Loren Faeth

The smoke silver one!

At 07:03 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote:

OK, I will do that, I will trade that for your burgandy SDL

Loren Faeth wrote:
 Kaleb, can't be done.

 You'll have to bring me the car and the engine.  Thanks!



 Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Anybody been there?  I now have one and the engine is locked up.  Have
 new engine ready to go, just have to pull it out of the 4matic.  Looks,
 well, lets just say, not fun.
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
   92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
   89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
   81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
 http://www.okiebenz.com


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  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 123 steering pump rebuild

2007-04-05 Thread Ralph W
More out of curiousity than need, I got the pulley off my pump and dug out 
the seal. Rubber is hard as a rock. New seal is $3.50 from Rusty. Should be 
a cinch to pound back in. Probably less time consuming than finding another 
pump. I'll let you know if the fix fails.


Ralph W.
'83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons)
'90 300D   '01 E320 Wagon
'87 300TD
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 steering pump rebuild



used pumps are so cheap that trying to rebuild one yourself is a waste
of time.

Ralph W wrote:
My pump in the '83 coupe is leaking out the shaft. Anyone done this 
rebuild? Is it as simple as getting a pully puller and pulling the pully 
and replacing a seal. I have an old spare pump but this is the second 
leaky pump I've encountered and would like a long term fix if it's easy 
to do. TIA


Ralph W.
'83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons)
'90 300D   '01 E320 Wagon
'87 300TD
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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] pulling a 4Matic engine

2007-04-05 Thread Joe Knight

http://www2.lut.fi/~holtta/mb/4matic/
Think it was Casey that passed this along some months back.  Pretty
revealing pics of the early 4-matic.  Looks like a separate sump for the
diff inside the oil pan, but also looks like the front axles would
disconnect pretty easily just leaving some extra control plumbing to deal
with.

-joe


Re: [MBZ] Wantering Rear End / Was Blown Shock

2007-04-05 Thread Mitch Haley


John Peterson wrote:
 I ordered 2 Bilsteins from Rusty with strut mounts.  Should straighten
 things out.

Will a W124 strut bolt up on a W201?
Are they the same on both sides?
I've got a 190DT parts car with a broken RF strut, I'd love to stand
that wheel upright so I can move the car.

Mitch.



Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION

2007-04-05 Thread Loren Faeth
On second thought, I think the Holley EFI conversion might be less costly, 
or about the same.  Still, I'd opt for a fuel injected gasser.  Those 
blankin' Zeniths never work right.  Course, you could put an OM 616 pr an 
OM 601 into it and have a nice car..   if it weren't rusty


At 06:41 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote:

yeah, but the conversion kit is about 2 grand, isn't it?  If I wanted a 123
gasser, i'd opt for a southern 280e

At 09:00 AM 4/4/2007, you wrote:
OT ???

You can get a Weber conversion kit from JAM Engineering if you don't
want to mess with the Zeniths.

Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I've got a line on a '69 230 that looks like it's in great shape,
  but the carbs are screwed up. Asking price $2500. Are these the
  impossible-to-tune carbs I've heard about occasionally on this list
  and should I avoid this car? How much would putting the carbs right
  cost, worst case, if I could find someone to do it (my indy's pretty
  good)? Other comments about this engine/car? Reliability? Power?
  Economy? Handling? Trans? My bride is lusting after a vintage benz,
  and this one's the right shape and color :-)
 
  Dan

--
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION

2007-04-05 Thread Kevin
You know, you can get those webers pretty cheap used, and they don't 
usually wear out. You'd possibly need to come up with adapters and such,
but if you're getting them piecemeal you could probably save some cash.
I've seen the webers with adapters for other applications go as low as $150
instead of the $550+ for kits that they seem to command new. 

There are also other options if you're willing to get creative. A GM throttle
body or two with megasquirt, pair of dualjets, pair of holley two barrels...

But, I'd think that $2500 for a car with jacked up carbs is a little
steep. Then again, that's just me.

On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 08:13:26PM -0500, Loren Faeth wrote:
 On second thought, I think the Holley EFI conversion might be less costly, 
 or about the same.  Still, I'd opt for a fuel injected gasser.  Those 
 blankin' Zeniths never work right.  Course, you could put an OM 616 pr an 
 OM 601 into it and have a nice car..   if it weren't rusty
 
 At 06:41 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote:
 yeah, but the conversion kit is about 2 grand, isn't it?  If I wanted a 123
 gasser, i'd opt for a southern 280e
 
 At 09:00 AM 4/4/2007, you wrote:
  OT ???
  
  You can get a Weber conversion kit from JAM Engineering if you don't
  want to mess with the Zeniths.
  
  Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
I've got a line on a '69 230 that looks like it's in great shape,
but the carbs are screwed up. Asking price $2500. Are these the
impossible-to-tune carbs I've heard about occasionally on this list
and should I avoid this car? How much would putting the carbs right
cost, worst case, if I could find someone to do it (my indy's pretty
good)? Other comments about this engine/car? Reliability? Power?
Economy? Handling? Trans? My bride is lusting after a vintage benz,
and this one's the right shape and color :-)



Re: [MBZ] MB warranty question

2007-04-05 Thread LarryT
I doubt you'll have much success.  If you were a frquent customer buying a 
new MB every couple of years they might be willing to spend a couple hundred 
making it right.  But I susupect you're like most of the reat of us buying 
bargains when they jump out at us - and then, only when it;s a real 
opportunity  or personal situation makes the purchase necessary.


MB warrants parts for 1 year IIRC - I don't believe they'll double that for 
any reason unless you just wrote a check for a S600. ;-)
 No warranty on labor I believe.  Asking for some relief will depend on 
what kind of future customer they perceive you might be.  If, OTOH, they see 
you as a one-time-guy who only darkens their door when a problem initiated 
by someone else becomes a problem.


But it won't hurt to try.  The worst they can do is say, No.

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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My car, 1990 300SEL, has a popping rubbing noise in the front end.  I
took it my Indy and it is the left control arm bushing (I forget whether
it was the upper or lower).   That is not such an unusual concern on
126, so I didn't think too much about it.  But, I was looking through
the service records for this car.  The previous owner replaced bother
control arms (and bushings)(upper and lower) on January 27, 2005.  The
car had 103,000 miles on it at the time.  So, it has been barely more
than 2 years and a 33,000 miles.  Doesn't that seem like an awfully
short life for this part.  Do I have any recourse?  If I raise hell at
my local dealer will they do anything about it?  I can't bring it back
to dealer that replaced it because it was in Tampa.  Any thoughts?



By the way, what is the typical service interval on spark plugs?



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 136K (for sale)

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Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION

2007-04-05 Thread .Afzaal.Khan.
Zenith's are a little different from the other carbs,once you have the 
service manual for them ( 108 service manual) they are easy to set up 
correctly and  perform perfectly.


I have no problems with my 230  220S and 280S after I got the grasp of the 
jets and fuel flows  from the carb diagram.

synchronising them with a JCWhitney  synchroniser is easy.
mak
Also, rebuilding the carbs is easy but make sure you pay attention to 
detail

 set every adjustment absolutely exact. More carbs are screwed up by the
owner mis-adjusting than from any other cause. More often than not, the
float is set wrong.






Re: [MBZ] 124 shaking in neutral

2007-04-05 Thread Loren Faeth
Sounds like tires to me.  DO you have another set you could put on the 
front long enough for a trial?  If not take it to a tire shop and ask them 
to check the tires for slipped belts.


At 11:18 AM 4/4/2007, you wrote:

It only vibrates when the wheels are rolling, i.e. the driveshaft is turning.
My thinking is that the shaft flutters under no-load conditions and
smoothens out when torque is present.
The vibration is really all over, but can be felt at the steering wheel.
Feels like driving on cobble stone.

On 4/4/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am suspecting one of the drive shaft donuts.
  When I put the shifter in neutral to let it coast to the red light, I
  feel a vibration in the steering wheel. Put it back in D it goes
  away.

 I don't really have a suggestion other than I doubt that something
 towards the back like that will much affect the steering wheel.
 I suspect the engine is running ratty for some reason under those
 conditions.  What is the characteristic as you coast fully to a stop?

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Belleville washers, 300TD - THANKS, BUT...

2007-04-05 Thread Jim Cathey
But, I can't see how these washers (present, inverted, broken or 
absent)

can cause or contribute to the frantic vibration in the exhaust system.


Nor do I.  Are you sure all the mounts are there and functional?
Especially the set in the middle that tie to the transmission?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 124 shaking in neutral

2007-04-05 Thread Jim Cathey
It only vibrates when the wheels are rolling, i.e. the driveshaft is 
turning.

My thinking is that the shaft flutters under no-load conditions and
smoothens out when torque is present.


If this is so you ought to be able to tease it with the throttle
to get it back even when not in N.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 123 steering pump rebuild

2007-04-05 Thread Jeff Zedic

BTW Ralph,

Your 87 TD that you bought from me has a new/rebuilt tandem pump on it that
I got from ASAP.I think, or Potomac German or someone reputable.

Just an FYI

Jeff Zedic


Re: [MBZ] 124 shaking in neutral

2007-04-05 Thread Hans Neureiter

That is what's boggling me. Engine RPM has no affect. Tires are
marginal, but not suspect. I can't simulate it with the throttle. It
will not do it when letting off the gas. The vibration is most
noticeable from ~40 down to ~10 MPH, but only when coasting in
neutral.

On 4/4/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It only vibrates when the wheels are rolling, i.e. the driveshaft is
 turning.
 My thinking is that the shaft flutters under no-load conditions and
 smoothens out when torque is present.

If this is so you ought to be able to tease it with the throttle
to get it back even when not in N.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Wantering Rear End / Was Blown Shock

2007-04-05 Thread John Peterson
You're welcome to the strut- the good one is the driver's side.  If they 
fit the 201, I could UPS to you.  Let me know.


John


Mitch Haley wrote:

John Peterson wrote:
  

I ordered 2 Bilsteins from Rusty with strut mounts.  Should straighten
things out.



Will a W124 strut bolt up on a W201?
Are they the same on both sides?
I've got a 190DT parts car with a broken RF strut, I'd love to stand
that wheel upright so I can move the car.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION

2007-04-05 Thread Allan Streib
Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 yeah, but the conversion kit is about 2 grand, isn't it?  If I
 wanted a 123 gasser, i'd opt for a southern 280e

The kit is about $900.  I was thinking they were less than that; I
recall spending about $600 on the kit I bought for my '66 230 but that
was a while ago.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



Re: [MBZ] OT McMaster-Carr was Belleville washers

2007-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Royce -
We have Graingers too. In fact our company wants us to use them, some sort
of agreement with prices and all, but McMaster -Carr has much more of the
stuff I need and their online catalog is much better than Graingers. I don't
think they have as many outlets as Graingers though, but I have one close
enough to me, so I'm a happy camper.

Barry

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Subject: [MBZ] OT McMaster-Carr was Belleville washers

Barry said...

Craig is correct. You are thinking of wave washers. For a good look at both
go to the McMaster-Carr site and search for Belleville washers.

http://www.mcmaster.com/


I hadn't heard of them in years...I think Grainger is more prevalent down
here in Texas, butI interviewed for a management job with McMaster-Carr
when I got off active duty in the Navy in 1981.  Never figured out why I
didn't get the job...I guess chemistry wasn't right.

Royce Engler
85 300TDt  279K





Re: [MBZ] 124 shaking in neutral

2007-04-05 Thread Gary Thompson

Drive shaft center support bearing? You'd think this would cause the
vibration to be present all the time, but I've experienced cases where
there was a definite resonance, and the vibration would only occur at
certain speeds or loads, and seemed fine at others. Take a quick look
and see if the rubber boot around the driveshaft center support
bearing is torn.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 4/4/07, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It only vibrates when the wheels are rolling, i.e. the driveshaft is turning.
My thinking is that the shaft flutters under no-load conditions and
smoothens out when torque is present.
The vibration is really all over, but can be felt at the steering wheel.
Feels like driving on cobble stone.




Re: [MBZ] 124 shaking in neutral

2007-04-05 Thread Jim Cathey

That is what's boggling me. Engine RPM has no affect. Tires are
marginal, but not suspect. I can't simulate it with the throttle. It
will not do it when letting off the gas. The vibration is most
noticeable from ~40 down to ~10 MPH, but only when coasting in
neutral.


Might I suggest that at some convenient and safe time you do this
and kill the engine too.  Ignition off, not locked!  Be prepared
for loss of power steering and brakes.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 124 shaking in neutral

2007-04-05 Thread mykd1
It could be the engine mounts.. whats the condition of those? 
Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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Sent: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 shaking in neutral


It only vibrates when the wheels are rolling, i.e. the driveshaft is turning.
My thinking is that the shaft flutters under no-load conditions and
smoothens out when torque is present.
The vibration is really all over, but can be felt at the steering wheel.
Feels like driving on cobble stone.

On 4/4/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am suspecting one of the drive shaft donuts.
  When I put the shifter in neutral to let it coast to the red light, I
  feel a vibration in the steering wheel. Put it back in D it goes
  away.

 I don't really have a suggestion other than I doubt that something
 towards the back like that will much affect the steering wheel.
 I suspect the engine is running ratty for some reason under those
 conditions.  What is the characteristic as you coast fully to a stop?

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] pulling a 4Matic engine

2007-04-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

No, I was talking about the burgandy one :)

Loren Faeth wrote:

The smoke silver one!

At 07:03 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote:

OK, I will do that, I will trade that for your burgandy SDL

Loren Faeth wrote:

Kaleb, can't be done.

You'll have to bring me the car and the engine.  Thanks!




Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Anybody been there?  I now have one and the engine is locked up.  Have
new engine ready to go, just have to pull it out of the 4matic.  Looks,
well, lets just say, not fun.
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  92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com


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  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] No. 1 ignition position for radio

2007-04-05 Thread andrew strasfogel

On my 1983 300TD the wipers are keyed to Ignition I but not the 280SE W111.
Perhaps the hot option is the way to go.

On 4/4/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Sounds like this means that the only options for my radio are
 either always hot or Ignition II?  Do you recommend that I link
 power to the clock?  Will that mean that the antenna never retracts?

The antenna would retract when the radio was turned off.
The battery would die when the radio was not turned off.
Not sure how good a trade this is.

The Becker Grand Prix radios will actually turn back on
when the key is off if you poke the ON button again.  I
think somebody even said it was timed.  They take both
switched and unswitched power, of course.

I've never looked at the electrical portion of the older
ignition switch to see what is actually available there.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Freightliner motorhome

2007-04-05 Thread wilton strickland
The '07 Freightliner/Gulfstream Vista Cruiser motorhome/camper w/MB 154hp
CDI engine and 13XX mi is at www.sassercamping.com
Was ~ $85k new; asking $65k; ladie's dog didn't like it.

No interest, etc.

Wilton




Re: [MBZ] Freightliner motorhome

2007-04-05 Thread Steve MacSween
Not on the Web site right now.

Mac

on 4/5/07 14:57, wilton strickland at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The '07 Freightliner/Gulfstream Vista Cruiser motorhome/camper w/MB 154hp
 CDI engine and 13XX mi is at www.sassercamping.com
 Was ~ $85k new; asking $65k; ladie's dog didn't like it.
 
 No interest, etc.
 
 Wilton
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Freightliner motorhome

2007-04-05 Thread Redghost
Check the Other for sale link.  Looks pretty nice.  A bit too  
cramped for my taste.  Going solo that would be a fine ride.  Just  
can not see arriving with the whole family alive in such small quarters



On Apr 5, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Steve MacSween wrote:


Not on the Web site right now.

Mac

on 4/5/07 14:57, wilton strickland at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The '07 Freightliner/Gulfstream Vista Cruiser motorhome/camper w/ 
MB 154hp

CDI engine and 13XX mi is at www.sassercamping.com
Was ~ $85k new; asking $65k; ladie's dog didn't like it.

No interest, etc.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Freightliner motorhome

2007-04-05 Thread Steve MacSween
THAT pocket rocket is $85k new?

Oy, vadda vadda.

Mac

on 4/5/07 15:47, Redghost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Check the Other for sale link.  Looks pretty nice.  A bit too
 cramped for my taste.  Going solo that would be a fine ride.  Just
 can not see arriving with the whole family alive in such small quarters
 
 
 On Apr 5, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Steve MacSween wrote:
 
 Not on the Web site right now.
 
 Mac
 
 on 4/5/07 14:57, wilton strickland at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The '07 Freightliner/Gulfstream Vista Cruiser motorhome/camper w/
 MB 154hp
 CDI engine and 13XX mi is at www.sassercamping.com
 Was ~ $85k new; asking $65k; ladie's dog didn't like it.
 
 No interest, etc.
 
 Wilton
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Belleville washers - THANKS BUT...

2007-04-05 Thread Euan



But, I can't see how these washers (present, inverted, broken or absent)
can cause or contribute to the frantic vibration in the exhaust system.
Someone on the list mentioned them in a posting last year as a possible 
factor.



Nor do I.  Are you sure all the mounts are there and functional?
Especially the set in the middle that tie to the transmission?

-- Jim


No Jim, I'm not sure but I'm gonna go lookin'. It's the one thing I 
haven't checked properly.


Thanks for your helpful suggestions. I'll report back.

Euan