Re: [MBZ] Removing tinting
A single edged razor blade in a scraper will do the job. Hot air from a heat gun, or even a hair dryer, will keep the scraping pressure down. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
Thanks to you, this poor 'SL will now run rather than sitting until it's so decayed that it can never run or drive again. Good luck with your rolling restoration. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Just pretend you are a guest worker and you won't need insurance, a drivers license, registration, or ownership. Works here in Houston quite well. And you won't even need to know how to drive either, just go. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Ahh, I do see an in-transit permit on nysdmv.com Hmm, I kinda think they might figure out that I've already registered the car before and not let that one fly... And I suppose if I have to pay $10, it's not THAT much worse to pay $46 or whatever just for the ease of dealing with it, especially for probably more than 30 days... Thanks for the info though! Levi On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the DMV, prove you have insurance and fill out the form for a 30 day temporary transit tag. Allows transporting to and from certain places as stated when you fill out the formYou might want to fib a little about what you intend to do with it.Costs a whoppin huge 10 bucks and the title doesn't even have to be in your name!! Mike Where/how can you get a paper tag for $10? I thought NY was a pain cause there was no such thing as a temp tag? Or is this something else? Levi On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it will run and drive you can put insurance on it and buy a paper tag for 10 bucks. Mike Do you folks have repair plates? Around here the garages usually have a repair plate that can be used to transport a vehicle to the garage. The garage will usually lend you the plate in order to get the vehicle in. Some places also will sell you a one day permit to move a vehicle. I know you can get one here to move a vehicle to another province. Don't know if you can get one to move a vehicle within the province. Would probably have to have a current safety certificate to do that in any event. Another option is to get a tow truck. It will be cheaper in the long run than a ticket or an accident if you get caught or if things go wrong. I had a Jeep towed home for my younger son a month or so ago and and it cost $70 for a tow of 5 miles or so. I was tempted to tow it behind one of our trucks but also thought it would cost more than the tow to replace the back bumper on the truck if the Jeep happened to bump me. I have towed with just a rope. I towed a friend about 35 miles. He had a mid 80's full size Cadillac with an engine knock. He kept the motor running to provide power steering and brakes and I towed him with my old Chevy pickup. It was pretty smooth. You really want to be able to trust the other driver no matter whether you are in the tow vehicle or the towed vehicle. Also towed a Chevy pickup home from about 50 miles away on a 1/2 nylon rope behind a Ford pickup many years ago. No real problem. I drove the tow vehicle and my father steered the towed vehicle. I don't think he trusted me to not hit him from behind. I was pretty young then and he just instructed me to keep the speed down to about 40 mph and let him worry about not running into the back of me. It was pretty hilly country and we slowed a bit going up hills but there was not much traffic and we got home fine. Randy - in Winnipeg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY? Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an unregistered car in NY? I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone else do it, but it's not registered... I'm thinking I would tow it down and then maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs then), but it wouldn't have plates either way... And it does go right past a police station... Anyone know if that's legal or not? I was thinking it was... But then I couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer without plates... Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning kit for 114/115
I don't think it would bring enough money there to be worth the cost and effort. I am not sure ebay here will be worth the cost and effort either. At 10:03 AM 8/3/2007, you wrote: Since you already know the shipping cost why not post it on ebay.de? --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a guy from Germany who wanted to buy all the parts to convert his 115 Diesel to Air conditioned. He backed out after finding how much it would cost to ship it there. It takes 3 boxes. Before it goes to ebay, is anyone here interested in the kit? It includes compressor and bracket hoses receiver/drier (but I'd recommend a new one) Condenser condenser fan evaporator with expansion valve Control with knob And a few related bits please email me offlist if you are interested I can't guarantee the compressor will work, but a new one is only about $200. Much cheaper than the GM or japanese compressors. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Hmm... I haven't seen many of those here at the moment, though there are some over at my parents house, they drive a John Deere Gator back and forth to the farm(they do live in the country). I'm guessing there may be a few more down in Houston than up here in NY... On 8/3/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just pretend you are a guest worker and you won't need insurance, a drivers license, registration, or ownership. Works here in Houston quite well. And you won't even need to know how to drive either, just go. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning kit for 114/115
Since you already know the shipping cost why not post it on ebay.de? --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a guy from Germany who wanted to buy all the parts to convert his 115 Diesel to Air conditioned. He backed out after finding how much it would cost to ship it there. It takes 3 boxes. Before it goes to ebay, is anyone here interested in the kit? It includes compressor and bracket hoses receiver/drier (but I'd recommend a new one) Condenser condenser fan evaporator with expansion valve Control with knob And a few related bits please email me offlist if you are interested I can't guarantee the compressor will work, but a new one is only about $200. Much cheaper than the GM or japanese compressors. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Removing tinting
Or you can do the easy thing and take it to a professional window tinting place. Redghost wrote: Razor scraper? clay On 2 Aug 2007, at 12:09, Zoltan Finks wrote: Any tips on removing the crummy window tinting on my 190D? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Air conditioning kit for 114/115
Had a guy from Germany who wanted to buy all the parts to convert his 115 Diesel to Air conditioned. He backed out after finding how much it would cost to ship it there. It takes 3 boxes. Before it goes to ebay, is anyone here interested in the kit? It includes compressor and bracket hoses receiver/drier (but I'd recommend a new one) Condenser condenser fan evaporator with expansion valve Control with knob And a few related bits please email me offlist if you are interested I can't guarantee the compressor will work, but a new one is only about $200. Much cheaper than the GM or japanese compressors. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Yeah, you're still not quite part of Occupied Aztlan, just a matter of time though. --R Levi Smith wrote: Hmm... I haven't seen many of those here at the moment, though there are some over at my parents house, they drive a John Deere Gator back and forth to the farm(they do live in the country). I'm guessing there may be a few more down in Houston than up here in NY... On 8/3/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just pretend you are a guest worker and you won't need insurance, a drivers license, registration, or ownership. Works here in Houston quite well. And you won't even need to know how to drive either, just go. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
I wonder what ever happened to the days when if a garage wanted your business they would come tow the car(within a few miles) to the shop at no charge. Labor rates have gone up, pay hasn't much, for the mechanic not the boss... Mike Ahh, I do see an in-transit permit on nysdmv.com Hmm, I kinda think they might figure out that I've already registered the car before and not let that one fly... And I suppose if I have to pay $10, it's not THAT much worse to pay $46 or whatever just for the ease of dealing with it, especially for probably more than 30 days... Thanks for the info though! Levi On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the DMV, prove you have insurance and fill out the form for a 30 day temporary transit tag. Allows transporting to and from certain places as stated when you fill out the formYou might want to fib a little about what you intend to do with it.Costs a whoppin huge 10 bucks and the title doesn't even have to be in your name!! Mike Where/how can you get a paper tag for $10? I thought NY was a pain cause there was no such thing as a temp tag? Or is this something else? Levi On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it will run and drive you can put insurance on it and buy a paper tag for 10 bucks. Mike Do you folks have repair plates? Around here the garages usually have a repair plate that can be used to transport a vehicle to the garage. The garage will usually lend you the plate in order to get the vehicle in. Some places also will sell you a one day permit to move a vehicle. I know you can get one here to move a vehicle to another province. Don't know if you can get one to move a vehicle within the province. Would probably have to have a current safety certificate to do that in any event. Another option is to get a tow truck. It will be cheaper in the long run than a ticket or an accident if you get caught or if things go wrong. I had a Jeep towed home for my younger son a month or so ago and and it cost $70 for a tow of 5 miles or so. I was tempted to tow it behind one of our trucks but also thought it would cost more than the tow to replace the back bumper on the truck if the Jeep happened to bump me. I have towed with just a rope. I towed a friend about 35 miles. He had a mid 80's full size Cadillac with an engine knock. He kept the motor running to provide power steering and brakes and I towed him with my old Chevy pickup. It was pretty smooth. You really want to be able to trust the other driver no matter whether you are in the tow vehicle or the towed vehicle. Also towed a Chevy pickup home from about 50 miles away on a 1/2 nylon rope behind a Ford pickup many years ago. No real problem. I drove the tow vehicle and my father steered the towed vehicle. I don't think he trusted me to not hit him from behind. I was pretty young then and he just instructed me to keep the speed down to about 40 mph and let him worry about not running into the back of me. It was pretty hilly country and we slowed a bit going up hills but there was not much traffic and we got home fine. Randy - in Winnipeg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 10:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY? Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an unregistered car in NY? I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone else do it, but it's not registered... I'm thinking I would tow it down and then maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs then), but it wouldn't have plates either way... And it does go right past a police station... Anyone know if that's legal or not? I was thinking it was... But then I couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer without plates... Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts
Re: [MBZ] Becker and ipod
Interesting. This Chingadera is made by Griffin and works pretty well. Then again, I am not very picky at all when it comes to audio or any other electronic gadgetry. Brian On 8/2/07, Affzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belkin unit is disappointing , noisy and poor audio quality .the cassette works just fine! mak - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Becker and ipod On 8/2/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my trip driving my new 190D home from California, I tried to use my ipod with it's little broadcasting chingazo that allows it to play wirelessly through your radio. But it didn't work. FWIW, I have two of those wireless iPod transmitter doohickeys. One's made by Griffin and one by Belkin. Neither one works reliably. You have to experiment interminably with the position and angle of the transmitter and the length of the power antenna until you find the right combination to get the least staticky signal. Then as soon as you go around a corner and the iPod slides an inch across the seat or dash, you have to do it all over again. I went with a $5 cassette adapter for my cars that have tape decks, and a head unit with a 1/8 aux input on the 300D, which didn't come with its original Becker or any other head unit. Much better. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another CHEAP SL, JIM?
It seems like the 380SL Gods are giving us bottom feeders a shot at driving in a nice 107 2 seater! This one has been converted to the double row timing chain and has less than 90K miles on it with a straight body and fair interior. Ad says it runs great. It does have a salvage title and needs some front suspension work, probably will be a nice one with minimal investment. http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/388345646.html Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tools and Quality
Howdy -- We talked about this issue a week or so ago - we basically said you get what you pay for - I got a surprise recently. I bought a 3 draw unit for my toolchest that fits between the top box and bottom box - btw, I highly recommend this method of adding more space. It is very handy and doesn't require anymore footprint. Anyway, the original toolchest is one I bought in 1968 from Montgomery Wards when I worked as a VW/Porsche mechanics apprentice way back then -- the new 3 drawer unit is Craftsman -- and the quality is much lower on the Craftsman part. So far, I have noticed the drawer slides being cranky on the Sears piece - the drawer must be lined up perfectly to go into the housing. Also, the finish is not as good as the almost 40 years old tool chest. Oh well, in the overall scheme of things it's not a big deal. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning kit for 114/115
Parts on ebay Germany for an old Benz or any other European car generally go for way less than what those parts go for here. I've been known to shop on ebay Germany on occasion and save a fortune. Robert Zach wrote: Since you already know the shipping cost why not post it on ebay.de? --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a guy from Germany who wanted to buy all the parts to convert his 115 Diesel to Air conditioned. He backed out after finding how much it would cost to ship it there. It takes 3 boxes. Before it goes to ebay, is anyone here interested in the kit? It includes compressor and bracket hoses receiver/drier (but I'd recommend a new one) Condenser condenser fan evaporator with expansion valve Control with knob And a few related bits please email me offlist if you are interested I can't guarantee the compressor will work, but a new one is only about $200. Much cheaper than the GM or japanese compressors. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] UNIMOG tour in Moab, Utah - AWESOME!
I recommend this to everyone. Here is the website: http://coyoteshuttle.com/landtours.html and here is a clip of our tour on youtube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kRttMrwPuj4 another great UNIMOG vid on youtube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=CxdX0au-BNA ENJOY! Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz), German Shepherd Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz), German Shepherd -- Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 226K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, little blue klatter box - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did they make a 15 bundt wheel
Ed, These are bundt pan wheels. Like the 14 variants that came with the w123, late w116, and early w126. I do not know what you mean by the turbine fan variant. WRT AMG wheels, the early pentas were made by ATS and later on they switched to Ronal. Ronal and ATS both did offer an aftermarket variant. If the wheel has AMG stamped into the hub, then it was a genuine piece. If it just has the Ronal or ATS mark with no AMG, then it was an aftermarket. FWIW, other manufacturers sold knock-off AMG wheels as well. For reference, here are photos of a set of genuine AMG pentas made by ATS that I sold earlier this year: http://oldworldauto.com/Images/AMG_R9/index.htm Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:34 PM, E M wrote: Are these the rims that look like a bunt cake pan? Or like a turbine fan? Didn't Ronal make the rims for the early AMG cars, or were they just copying the AMG rim? Ed 300E On 02/08/07, Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone is serious about obtaining the 15 bundts, I can get them. I have a connection that has them available in limited numbers, new, never mounted, genuine MB, no aftermarket junk. The cost is quite considerable, however. WRT the aftermarket variants, I would suggest only obtaining Ronals as they were manufactured to a higher standard. I have heard the ATS and Centra variants have issues with hub cracking over time from more than one source. Those variants lack a metal collar where the lug bolt presses against the rim and due to over-tightening the lugs, something more than common, the hubs will begin to crack. If you have a set of these, I suggest that you have them x-rayed to check for potential failure. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality
Shoot, too bad the quality is not as good. On the subject, I realized last night that the Durabilt tools I got for my wedding from Target have a lifetime warranty. This is the tool set from which the socket broke on an oil pan drain plug. Too bad a guest at our house threw the socket in the trashcan. I would have saved it if I was aware of the warranty. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality
A lot of tools have a lifetime warranty, but most don't realize how these work. When a company sets up a warranty, they factor the cost of replacements, plus additional profit. They add additional profit because like it or not, the company will make money on the warranty. And because of this, a tool or piece of equipment with a long term warranty costs more than the exact same quality tool with a lesser warrantee the cost difference is not justified by just the warranty. Sears, for example, offered still offers a lifetime warranty on their Craftsman line. But the warranty does not indicate that their product is any better than anyone else's tools. The warranty just states that they will replace the tool when / if it breaks. And if you compare the price of Craftsman tools to other name brands, it soon becomes apparent that you are paying a lot for the name, and for the warranty. That said, I own a lot of Craftsman tools but I've also broken a lot of Craftsman tools. But I also have a set of no name wrenches that refuse to die. If I were to buy my tools all over again, I'd buy the Kolbalt line offered by Lowes. They also happen to offer a lifetime warranty but I'd buy them for the finish. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 5:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality Shoot, too bad the quality is not as good. On the subject, I realized last night that the Durabilt tools I got for my wedding from Target have a lifetime warranty. This is the tool set from which the socket broke on an oil pan drain plug. Too bad a guest at our house threw the socket in the trashcan. I would have saved it if I was aware of the warranty. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] need URL for the old articles from Rustys site
Does anybody have the URL for the old articles page from Rusty's old site? I can't seem to find my bookmark and can't seem to find a link anywhere either. As I remember there was a writeup on replacing the monovalve that I need for a co-worker. Thanks Eric 85 380SE 113K Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] need URL for the old articles from Rustys site
Like this one? http://articles.mbz.org/hvac/plumbing/monovalve/ On 8/3/07, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have the URL for the old articles page from Rusty's old site? I can't seem to find my bookmark and can't seem to find a link anywhere either. As I remember there was a writeup on replacing the monovalve that I need for a co-worker. Thanks Eric -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality
Know what the difference is between the 10 yr guarantee water heater and the 5 yr guarantee water heater? About $100, or whatever -- they are the same unit with a longer guarantee. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another CHEAP SL, JIM?
It seems like the 380SL Gods are giving us bottom feeders a shot at driving in a nice 107 2 seater! This one has been converted to the double row timing chain and has less than 90K miles on it with a straight body and fair interior. Ad says it runs great. It does have a salvage title and needs some front suspension work, probably will be a nice one with minimal investment. http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/388345646.html Very odd that it's got four different colors of paint on its various bits. What a hodge-podge. Still, if paint were in your future that wouldn't be bad. Looks like it's missing the fog lights. But I've got mine already. Feel free to get yours too! I drove mine to work today, it runs pretty well. Needs a lot of fiddly stuff, though. At least the cuffs match the collar! Washed, it's still fairly shiny. My wife parked next to it today at lunch, and complemented me on my good deal. Hoo-hah! Let me write that down... She thinks the overall paint effect is better than the 450. Though this one has many more flaws, the rust 'bulletholes' in the 450's trunk lid were weighted high in her book. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Shocking
Gents, I am in need of new shocks. My questions: Heavy duty vs comfort - what is the difference? Bilstiens for $80, Monroes for $50, or Gabriels for $20 - suggestions? Any other thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated. Thanks! David 1985 380 SL (80k) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shocking
Here you go: 1.) Bilsteins. Don't consider anything else on a Benz 2.) Comfort. Heavy duty are valved very, very hard, and you'll feel every little pebble in the road with them. If you want a luxury car feel to your MB, you'll get it with the comforts. Heavy dutys make you feel like you're offroading in the parking lot. Dan --- David Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gents, I am in need of new shocks. My questions: Heavy duty vs comfort - what is the difference? Bilstiens for $80, Monroes for $50, or Gabriels for $20 - suggestions? Any other thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated. Thanks! David 1985 380 SL (80k) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality
Having just purchased and installed a water heater last weekend, I would beg to differ with you on that Yes, the warranty does work out to about $10/year as you move up the scale, however, there are also differences in construction and components as well. For instance, the 6 year warranty heater I considered had plain copper elements. The 12 year warranty heater ($70 more) had stainless steel. It also had a solid state controller that monitors usage and learns the usage patterns, using them to turn down the heater when there is no demand expected (like in the middle of the night.) I have no idea what the value of the additional items is from a manufacturing standpoint, suffice to say that they are probably worth the difference. Dan --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Know what the difference is between the 10 yr guarantee water heater and the 5 yr guarantee water heater? About $100, or whatever -- they are the same unit with a longer guarantee. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
Yeah I'll have it, delivery it to Adelaide, SA please. Cheers mate - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date: 3/08/2007 5:46 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill. Where are you? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 292k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality
Ya, consumer reports sawed a bunch in half a year back or so. They said the 12 year ones were seriously different inside. Better quality, better durability, better engineering. In fact price versus what you got was way better. But I do recall they said the 3 versus the 5 year ones were the same. This did not stop my 12 year GE one from leaking in the first six months. On the other hand they replaced it at no costs for anything that afternoon. On Aug 3, 2007, at 6:15 PM, LWB250 wrote: Having just purchased and installed a water heater last weekend, I would beg to differ with you on that Yes, the warranty does work out to about $10/year as you move up the scale, however, there are also differences in construction and components as well. For instance, the 6 year warranty heater I considered had plain copper elements. The 12 year warranty heater ($70 more) had stainless steel. It also had a solid state controller that monitors usage and learns the usage patterns, using them to turn down the heater when there is no demand expected (like in the middle of the night.) I have no idea what the value of the additional items is from a manufacturing standpoint, suffice to say that they are probably worth the difference. Dan John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 200k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 192k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] need URL for the old articles from Rustys site
That's the one Thanks Eric --- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like this one? http://articles.mbz.org/hvac/plumbing/monovalve/ On 8/3/07, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have the URL for the old articles page from Rusty's old site? I can't seem to find my bookmark and can't seem to find a link anywhere either. As I remember there was a writeup on replacing the monovalve that I need for a co-worker. Thanks Eric -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Silverbacks Women in W-League Championship Televised Live on Fox Soccer Channel on Sunday
well, i know none of you care, but the USL W-league is the highest level of women's soccer in north america. if you live in the rochester area and are looking for a nice family event for this sunday, go to this game. if you are disillusioned by big time sports, got to this game. i'm sure the rest of you will be watching it this sunday on FSC -- Forwarded message -- From: The Atlanta Silverbacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Aug 3, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: Silverbacks Women in W-League Championship Televised Live on Fox Soccer Channel on Sunday To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [image: Silverbacks Registered Logo] *SILVERBACKS WOMEN CRUISE TO W-LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH WITH 4-1 WIN* * SILVERBACKS WOMEN LIVE ON FOX SOCCER CHANNEL ON SUNDAY AT 5:30 PM * The *Atlanta Silverbacks Women* continued their dominance of the *2007 W-League playoffs* tonight when they beat the *Seattle Sounders 4-1*in the semi-finals of the * W-League Championship series* in Rochester, NY. The Silverbacks will play in their first W-League Championship on *Sunday evening* at *5:30 pm* - *the match will be broadcast live on the Fox Soccer Channel*. The 'Backs will take on the winner of tonight's other semi-final between the Rochester Rhinos and the Washington Freedom. The Sounders took an early lead in just the sixth minute, putting the Silverbacks in an unfamiliar playoff position after having won their first two matches 4-0 and 5-2. The 'Backs returned to their scoring ways at the close of the first half when *Krista Davey* sent a cross into the box and *Christine Latham* finished a diving header to even the score in the 44th minute. Atlanta did not let the halftime break slow their offensive attacks and the Silverbacks took the lead in the 46th minute when *Monica Buff* laid the ball back to *Tara Minnax* who finished the go-ahead goal. Buff finished a goal of her in the 68th minute when she sent in a 35-yard shot that proved too much for the keeper to handle. The Silverbacks finished their final goal of the night in the 80th minute when Minnax chipped the ball into *Sarah Steinmann* who easily laid the ball in from inside the 18-yard box. The Silverbacks launched their W-League franchise just three years ago - the team made its postseason debut last weekend in Minnesota and has dominated every match along the way, outscoring their opponents 13-3. The Silverbacks will fight for the W-League title on Sunday afternoon at PAETEC PARK at 5:30 pm against either the Rochester Rhinos or the Washington Freedom. *(c) Atlanta Silverbacks 2007 - All Rights Reserved.* ** For More Information Regarding the Atlanta Silverbacks, Please Contact: Emmakate Young Atlanta Silverbacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] O: 404-969-4902 F: 770-496-4297 Forward emailhttp://ui.constantcontact.com/sa/fwtf.jsp?m=1101564478429ea=jabbahursty%40gmail.coma=1101763522276 http://visitor.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?p=unm=1101564478429ea=jabbahursty%40gmail.comse=2878t=1101763522276lang=enreason=F This email was sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Update Profile/Email Addresshttp://visitor.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?p=oom=1101564478429ea=jabbahursty%40gmail.comse=2878t=1101763522276lang=enreason=F| Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribehttp://visitor.constantcontact.com/d.jsp?p=unm=1101564478429ea=jabbahursty%40gmail.comse=2878t=1101763522276lang=enreason=F™ | Privacy Policy http://ui.constantcontact.com/roving/CCPrivacyPolicy.jsp. The Atlanta Silverbacks | 3299 Northcrest Rd. | Suite 200 | Atlanta | GA | 30340 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
OK, you called it before I did - but I think you are a bit out of the 500 miles delivery range ... And I might be also. Mike - I could take delivery in Atlanta also. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? Yeah I'll have it, delivery it to Adelaide, SA please. Cheers mate - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date: 3/08/2007 5:46 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
Bill, It needs a tranny, exhaust and bumpers. Other than that it drives nice, brakes are good, runs great, hydro susp. works. I only drove it for a week and the tranny went on me. Has some cancer but not too bad. Fuel tank needs cleaned out or better yet replaced as it is clogging the fuel filter. That's about what i know about it. I am in Montour Falls, NY. Mike Hi Mike - I am in need of a reliable vehicle for my daughter and her three kids for a few months- if this fits the bill. Where are you? BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 292k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
I'll work with you on delivery over 500 miles if you are really interested. Mike OK, you called it before I did - but I think you are a bit out of the 500 miles delivery range ... And I might be also. Mike - I could take delivery in Atlanta also. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? Yeah I'll have it, delivery it to Adelaide, SA please. Cheers mate - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date: 3/08/2007 5:46 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shocking
I wonder which Bilstein shocks Rusty sends if you don't specify comfort or heavy duty? I replaced the rear shocks (from Rusty) on the '83 240D and it seems to ride a lot rougher than the '83 300D. Do 240Ds usually ride rougher than 300Ds? The 240D was my wifes car and I've driven it very little so I don't remember if it rode as rough when I occasionally drove her someplace. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D -- - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shocking Here you go: 1.) Bilsteins. Don't consider anything else on a Benz 2.) Comfort. Heavy duty are valved very, very hard, and you'll feel every little pebble in the road with them. If you want a luxury car feel to your MB, you'll get it with the comforts. Heavy dutys make you feel like you're offroading in the parking lot. Dan --- David Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gents, I am in need of new shocks. My questions: Heavy duty vs comfort - what is the difference? Bilstiens for $80, Monroes for $50, or Gabriels for $20 - suggestions? Any other thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated. Thanks! David 1985 380 SL (80k) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shocking
- Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shocking Here you go: 1.) Bilsteins. Don't consider anything else on a Benz 2.) Comfort. Heavy duty are valved very, very hard, and you'll feel every little pebble in the road with them. If you want a luxury car feel to your MB, you'll get it with the comforts. Heavy dutys make you feel like you're offroading in the parking lot. Dan --- David Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gents, I am in need of new shocks. My questions: Heavy duty vs comfort - what is the difference? Bilstiens for $80, Monroes for $50, or Gabriels for $20 - suggestions? Any other thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated. Thanks! David 1985 380 SL (80k) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shocking
- Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shocking Here you go: 1.) Bilsteins. Don't consider anything else on a Benz 2.) Comfort. Heavy duty are valved very, very hard, and you'll feel every little pebble in the road with them. If you want a luxury car feel to your MB, you'll get it with the comforts. Heavy dutys make you feel like you're offroading in the parking lot. Dan --- David Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gents, I am in need of new shocks. My questions: Heavy duty vs comfort - what is the difference? Bilstiens for $80, Monroes for $50, or Gabriels for $20 - suggestions? Any other thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated. Thanks! David 1985 380 SL (80k) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/929 - Release Date: 7/31/2007 5:26 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality
I guess I look at the difference in cost amortized over the life of the appliance. That being considered, you're talking about less than $10/year for the difference, which isn't really significant in my mind. That also doesn't factor in the cost savings in energy efficiency. While I can't imagine water heater technology has gotten to the point of really major gains in efficiency over the last 10 years, with other appliances it is definitely a consideration. The house is just about 10-1/2 years old, so some of the appliances are ready to be turned. I just cut about 35% off my water bill by going to a front loading washing machine last month. I can't begin to imagine what a difference it will make when we replace our almost 15 year old side by side refrigerator in a couple of months Dan (reducing my carbon footprint) --- John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ya, consumer reports sawed a bunch in half a year back or so. They said the 12 year ones were seriously different inside. Better quality, better durability, better engineering. In fact price versus what you got was way better. But I do recall they said the 3 versus the 5 year ones were the same. This did not stop my 12 year GE one from leaking in the first six months. On the other hand they replaced it at no costs for anything that afternoon. Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Did they make a 15 bundt wheel
Thanks Mathieu, Yes, those were the early AMG wheels I had in mind. I have an old AMG catalog that features these for both 123, adn 126 models. I believe the Bundt were also refered to as turbine wheels as they somewhat resemble the compression fan on a jet engine. Thanks for your help, and the pics. As they say, a pic really is worth a thousand words. :-) Ed 300E On 03/08/07, Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, These are bundt pan wheels. Like the 14 variants that came with the w123, late w116, and early w126. I do not know what you mean by the turbine fan variant. WRT AMG wheels, the early pentas were made by ATS and later on they switched to Ronal. Ronal and ATS both did offer an aftermarket variant. If the wheel has AMG stamped into the hub, then it was a genuine piece. If it just has the Ronal or ATS mark with no AMG, then it was an aftermarket. FWIW, other manufacturers sold knock-off AMG wheels as well. For reference, here are photos of a set of genuine AMG pentas made by ATS that I sold earlier this year: http://oldworldauto.com/Images/AMG_R9/index.htm Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:34 PM, E M wrote: Are these the rims that look like a bunt cake pan? Or like a turbine fan? Didn't Ronal make the rims for the early AMG cars, or were they just copying the AMG rim? Ed 300E On 02/08/07, Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone is serious about obtaining the 15 bundts, I can get them. I have a connection that has them available in limited numbers, new, never mounted, genuine MB, no aftermarket junk. The cost is quite considerable, however. WRT the aftermarket variants, I would suggest only obtaining Ronals as they were manufactured to a higher standard. I have heard the ATS and Centra variants have issues with hub cracking over time from more than one source. Those variants lack a metal collar where the lug bolt presses against the rim and due to over-tightening the lugs, something more than common, the hubs will begin to crack. If you have a set of these, I suggest that you have them x-rayed to check for potential failure. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering
The power sterring pump on my father's 1999 2.5 Ford Ranger is whining rather loudly. It seem to work fine, and isn't leaking fluid. The truck only has 48k miles. A local McParts has two rebuilt pumps - ATSCO and Beck-Arney. Might either of them be any good? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality
On Aug 3, 2007, at 7:37 PM, LWB250 wrote: That also doesn't factor in the cost savings in energy efficiency. While I can't imagine water heater technology has gotten to the point of really major gains in efficiency over the last 10 years, with other appliances it is definitely a consideration. Actually they pointed out the insulation was better on the 12 year ones, thus decreasing the carbon footprint. John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 200k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 193k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another CHEAP SL, JIM?
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:38:48 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife parked next to it today at lunch, and complemented me on my good deal. Hoo-hah! Let me write that down... Indeed! It's nice that she's on your side. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shocking
In a message dated 8/3/2007 6:06:14 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gents, I am in need of new shocks. My questions: Heavy duty vs comfort - what is the difference? Bilstiens for $80, Monroes for $50, or Gabriels for $20 - suggestions? Any other thoughts on the matter would be much appreciated. Thanks! David 1985 380 SL (80k) Rusty has Bilstein comfort or HD for $68.10, No sales tax (unless you live in his state) and free shipping. My recommendation is for comfort Bilsteins, a year after you put in KYB's your ride has deteriorated!. My 79 still has the original Bilsteins and recently performed very well at Starfest, 06. Another thing, the Bilsteins come with a lifetime guarantee to the purchaser, (as do the KYBs) but unless one leaks, it is unlikely you will need to replace them. Why change what works? Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Front Loading Washers (was Re: Tools and Quality)
I just cut about 35% off my water bill by going to a front loading washing machine last month. What brand/model did you go with? I'll be in the market for one very soon since we're buying a house. My parents have a Maytag Neptune that seems to be working well for the past 5 years. The laundromat here at the apartment complex just installed new Maytag commercial HE front loaders that don't seem to be getting clothes too clean at all. I think that our cheap top loader did a better job. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shocking
My 79 still has the original Bilsteins and recently performed very well at Starfest, 06. That's impressive with 267K miles on the clock! I was thinking about replacing Ursula's shocks, but after reading this, I think I'll check them first to see if they are still dry. I'm getting ready to have the front lower ball joints replaced as well. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering
Boneyard? ... then you get factory. On 8/3/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The power sterring pump on my father's 1999 2.5 Ford Ranger is whining rather loudly. It seem to work fine, and isn't leaking fluid. The truck only has 48k miles. A local McParts has two rebuilt pumps - ATSCO and Beck-Arney. Might either of them be any good? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shocking
In a message dated 8/3/2007 9:02:00 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's impressive with 267K miles on the clock! I was thinking about replacing Ursula's shocks, but after reading this, I think I'll check them first to see if they are still dry. I'm getting ready to have the front lower ball joints replaced as well. Thanks, Kevin, The car still does not bottom out or bang down after going over a speed hump at 30 MPH! I still have the lower ball joints too, The upper control arm is the one that goes bad. The bushings go bad and you get inside tire wear as the top of the tire leans in. the new upper control arms come with bushings and it is not too bad a job as you do not have to fight the spring.the stabilizer bar on the 116 connects to the upper control arm and is a little tricky to line up--not sure on your car. by the way., my 74 240D went over 200,000 miles before a rear shock started leaking. regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering
OK Don wrote: The power sterring pump on my father's 1999 2.5 Ford Ranger is whining rather loudly. It seem to work fine, and isn't leaking fluid. The truck only has 48k miles. A local McParts has two rebuilt pumps - ATSCO and Beck-Arney. Might either of them be any good? FWIW my 95 Mazda B2300 (Ford Ranger) has always had a whiny PS pump. Might want to ask these guys... http://www.ford-trucks.com/ Very good forum with very knowledgeable folks. :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Free Pennzoil Synthetic
All, About two weeks ago someone on this list suggested going to the web site below for some free oil and I did so. Today I got my kit with a $60 rebate towards the purchase of one synthetic Pennzoil oil change, or a 6 pack of their oil. I also got a Pennzoil hat and 8 $10 coupons for additional rebates. _www.firstdriversclub.com/login.jsp_ (http://www.firstdriversclub.com/login.jsp)This is a joint offer with Car and Driver pushing the good driver policy and Pennzoil pushing the oil.. It appears the web site is still up and after you fill out the form they will offer you a chance to get 12 issues of Road and Track for 5 bucks! Or Cycle magazine. Thanks ??, I can't find your old email anywhere! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality
Good info, I am corrected. My experience was of some years ago, working with some manufacturers -- they just sold a longer warranty on the same unit, gaming on how long they would last. I guess they are either smarter now, or more competitive. Good info to know. My experience with dishwashers some years ago was that the $500 KitchenAid had exactly the same guts as the $200 special, except the timer had more bumps on it to activate more cycles. All built in the same factory of mostly the same bits. All lasted about the same time too. Not sure now. --R LWB250 wrote: Having just purchased and installed a water heater last weekend, I would beg to differ with you on that Yes, the warranty does work out to about $10/year as you move up the scale, however, there are also differences in construction and components as well. For instance, the 6 year warranty heater I considered had plain copper elements. The 12 year warranty heater ($70 more) had stainless steel. It also had a solid state controller that monitors usage and learns the usage patterns, using them to turn down the heater when there is no demand expected (like in the middle of the night.) I have no idea what the value of the additional items is from a manufacturing standpoint, suffice to say that they are probably worth the difference. Dan --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Know what the difference is between the 10 yr guarantee water heater and the 5 yr guarantee water heater? About $100, or whatever -- they are the same unit with a longer guarantee. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality
Everything manufactured has a MTBF rating the rating stands for Mean Time Between Failure or the expected point at which 1/2 of the units have failed. I'd expect the 12 year water heater to be manufactured differently since it's life expectancy is so much different from the 3 5 year units. It also does not surprise me that the 3 5 year units are built the same and they probably have the same MTBF. And the real difference between the two? The warrantee - my point earlier. As far as the 6 month failure is concerned - all manufactured goods have some early life failure that water heater was likely a classic example. Failures follow a predictable curve called a bathtub curve. You will have some failures right away, followed by a period of low, random failures. Then the failures will increase may level out again at a higher rate or may continue to climb. Somewhere after this initial climb is the MTBF point. Some items like light bulbs follow a very predictable curve. Take a 1000 hour light bulb, for example. You'll have a few fail early on, much fewer fail over time but then when your 1000 hour light bulbs start reaching 1000 hours, they start dropping out fast. Other seemingly simple items like your Mercedes alternator are really made of components, each with its own MTBF rating. The front bearing, rear bearing, regulator, rotor, stator diode block each have their own MTBF. I've had a couple of Mercedes alternators rebuilt by a local shop, only to have a front or rear bearing fail later. Why? Because the shop only repaired what was broken, the diode block and / or regulator. But the bearings were not replaced even though they were well into their service life and they reached their end of life failed. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tools and Quality Ya, consumer reports sawed a bunch in half a year back or so. They said the 12 year ones were seriously different inside. Better quality, better durability, better engineering. In fact price versus what you got was way better. But I do recall they said the 3 versus the 5 year ones were the same. This did not stop my 12 year GE one from leaking in the first six months. On the other hand they replaced it at no costs for anything that afternoon. On Aug 3, 2007, at 6:15 PM, LWB250 wrote: Having just purchased and installed a water heater last weekend, I would beg to differ with you on that Yes, the warranty does work out to about $10/year as you move up the scale, however, there are also differences in construction and components as well. For instance, the 6 year warranty heater I considered had plain copper elements. The 12 year warranty heater ($70 more) had stainless steel. It also had a solid state controller that monitors usage and learns the usage patterns, using them to turn down the heater when there is no demand expected (like in the middle of the night.) I have no idea what the value of the additional items is from a manufacturing standpoint, suffice to say that they are probably worth the difference. Dan John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 200k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 192k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Free Pennzoil Synthetic
Does your lawn mower need that much Pennzoil? On 8/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, About two weeks ago someone on this list suggested going to the web site below for some free oil and I did so. Today I got my kit with a $60 rebate towards the purchase of one synthetic Pennzoil oil change, or a 6 pack of their oil. I also got a Pennzoil hat and 8 $10 coupons for additional rebates. _www.firstdriversclub.com/login.jsp_ (http://www.firstdriversclub.com/login.jsp)This is a joint offer with Car and Driver pushing the good driver policy and Pennzoil pushing the oil.. It appears the web site is still up and after you fill out the form they will offer you a chance to get 12 issues of Road and Track for 5 bucks! Or Cycle magazine. Thanks ??, I can't find your old email anywhere! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
