Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
Any thoughts regarding why that silly hex nut just spins and won't tighten? And any thoughts on how in the meantime I can get the roof to seal up? Is it simply cable tension that snugs the roof up in place and holds it there? Brian On 9/18/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, on your site, you mentioned some sort of plastic cap onto which the factory tool goes? That was not present. The plastic hex cap, often missing, locks the hex nut in position on the flatted shaft. The tire iron turns the entire mess, but it only works so long as it hasn't gotten stiff. Once it binds, the plastic cap breaks, falls into the trunk, and is discarded. I think maybe my loosening of that clutch adjusting nut has removed tension on the cable? Yes, you could try tightening it back a bit. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Light truck tires
In a message dated 9/18/2007 12:33:58 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sometime before winter I will need to get new tires for my wife's 97 Explorer 4WD. She had BF Goodrich long trail (or some other similar name). They have worn like iron. We have put at least 30,000 miles since we bought the car. When I bought it, I thought we would need tires soon. But, we still have not gotten down to the wear bars - although very close. So, to those of you with trucks and suv's, what are good tires for this vehicle. I might just buy the same tires we already have. I have had no complaints. The Michelin X, available at Costco and Sams Club, is a wonderful tire with lots of traction in snow and sand, with a very mild tread design.They always balance well, roll round, and are fairly quiet. Those on my Bravada will go 60,000 easily. They ARE over a hundred buck apiece tho. I have the Michelin Cross Terrains on my ML 320 but they seem a little stiffer (H rated, 17) and they are a good handling, long wearing tire as well. The $60 rebate per set of 5 will help, if it has not expired. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Replacing engine mounts W124 300D
Hopefully will get going on replacing mounts on my 300D. What needs to be disconnected eg water pipes/control lines etc so that one can sufficiently lift engine to replace the mounts? PEter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Confusing window A/C
the long narrow compressors are the rotary type with a higher efficiency ratings as compared to the old type fat reciprocating compressors. the two in one capacitor is for the fan and the compressor starting (33uf) - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Confusing window A/C - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] archer wrote: All suggestions will be appreciated. I bought a Sunbeam 5000 BTU unit for $80 at Circuit City this year. I just checked, and it seems that all they have now are portable units for $300+. Is the EER on your existing unit at least 9? ___ It is. It was top-rated at Consumers Reports when I bought it. There are plenty of window units available locally at 10.xx EER and at cheap prices, but I'd rather fix this one and rig it with a remote thermostat if it's fixable. All the new ones use complex PC boards with handheld wireless controllers. When I go in the shop and turn on the main power switches, the new type Sharp A/C in the other side of the shop has to be turned on with the remote and now it has to be turned on manually because the remote went bad and Sharp wants $50! for a new one! One thing I've been curious about is the kind of compressors these newer A/Cs have. They are long, narrow compressors; much smaller than the old type. I would guess they would be rotary screw compressors on the order of the large ones in big commercial installations. The Sharp makes a very steady tone comparable to the large commercial compressors steady roar. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
My 66 110 200D did not come with factory seat belts. They were federally mandated in the USA in 1966. My 66 has dealer installed german belts. My 62 110 did have mounting points for 3 point belts, but came from the factory with a shoulder belt only. It was European delivery, but there were no US specific Models until 1968. I am not sure about models released before the 1959 debut of the 111, but all 111 and 110, 112 bodies have mounting points for 3 point belts. I think the /8 cars had seat belts standard equipment. the /8 made its USA debut in 1968, but I am not sure about the rest of the world. My 65 110 190Dc had seat belts, but they were also dealer installed, German. Alas, on the seatbelt as std. equipment, I think MB was late to the dance, as all US cars had them factory installed in 65 or 66. To their benefit, MB made seat belts available, at least as far back as the 50s. The factory had options for lap belts, shoulder belts and probably for 3 point belts it was up to the buyer, the dealer or the country (importer) to specify what belt type, or no belt.. I am pretty sure in the 300SL and SLR that seat belts were pretty much standard, although the factory probably had some different options, like maybe 4 point in the SLR I believe pontons also had mounting points, but again they were not standard equipment. almost all other features of modern cars made its debut on Mercedes Benz automobiles before other marques. the list is enormous. Almost every safety feature was standard in MB years before becoming available or standard from Detroit. If memory serves me, the 1914 Mercedes I saw in Vancouver, BC had an antitheft steering lock and ignition switch. It also had an electric starter and may other innovations not seen on US cars until years later. I was stunned that it had a battery and electric starter in 1914. in 1914, International Harvester was building trucks that still looked like a high wheel wagon, not a truck as we know them. Loren MB owner since 1971 At 11:15 PM 9/16/2007, you wrote: I'm helping someone compose the Mercedes Story for children and she's got me stumped on a couple of points: Does anyone know who designed the W136 170? I'm pretty sure it would have been Hermann Ahrens, who was design chief before and after the war, but haven't been able to find any definitive answer online. When did seat belts become standard in Mercedes? 1964? And is it true that MB was the first carmaker to install them as standard equipment? (Besides Tucker, I mean.) Appreciate any insight, Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow
My blower fuse (25A) blows after a few hours of ACC operation, faster if fan is run on high. I suspect a bad blower motor, but is it? How about the pre-resistors or the blower control? Can I supply + battery V directly to the motor and see what the amps are? The fuse gets extremely hot (discoloration of paper in fuse box lid) and the relays in the area (Power seats, Aux fan and Power windows) are too hot to touch. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
which one is frada? On 9/19/07, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: you are one deeply disturbed young lady Yeah. Here's what the ladies and I did this morning: http://www.ksdk.com/video/default.aspx?aid=58983sid=129827bw=hicat=78 Fast forward to 1:37 Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
Nice looking SL. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions which one is frada? On 9/19/07, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: you are one deeply disturbed young lady Yeah. Here's what the ladies and I did this morning: http://www.ksdk.com/video/default.aspx?aid=58983sid=129827bw=hicat=78 Fast forward to 1:37 Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing engine mounts W124 300D
I don't recall having to remove or disconnect anything when I replaced mine . On 9/19/07, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully will get going on replacing mounts on my 300D. What needs to be disconnected eg water pipes/control lines etc so that one can sufficiently lift engine to replace the mounts? PEter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow
My blower fuse (25A) blows after a few hours of ACC operation, faster if fan is run on high. I suspect a bad blower motor, but is it? How about the pre-resistors or the blower control? Can I supply + battery V directly to the motor and see what the amps are? The fuse gets extremely hot (discoloration of paper in fuse box lid) and the relays in the area (Power seats, Aux fan and Power windows) are too hot to touch. That the fuse gets that hot indicates that you may have bad contacts in the fuse box itself. Take a Dremel wire brush to them. You may even need to get to the back side of it and clean the screw terminals and ring lugs. That kind of heat is itself sufficient to weaken a fuse and cause it to eventually blow. Also, were not some cars officially retrofitted to a larger strap fuse for the ACC blower? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing engine mounts W124 300D
Hopefully will get going on replacing mounts on my 300D. What needs to be disconnected eg water pipes/control lines etc so that one can sufficiently lift engine to replace the mounts? Nothing? I've never had to disconnect anything, but we also don't have a 124. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
Any thoughts regarding why that silly hex nut just spins and won't tighten? No, I've never had to take apart that end. You have to hold the flatted shaft while you tighten it, but somehow I doubt that's your problem. And any thoughts on how in the meantime I can get the roof to seal up? Duct tape? If you can't get the headliner panel out (roof is closed) and you can't make the cable move... Is it simply cable tension that snugs the roof up in place and holds it there? Indirectly, operating on the linkage that is clearly exposed once the headliner panel is removed. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow
Some of the 300E's were retrofit with an in-line fuse because they did not have a fuse in 86 or 87. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow My blower fuse (25A) blows after a few hours of ACC operation, faster if fan is run on high. I suspect a bad blower motor, but is it? How about the pre-resistors or the blower control? Can I supply + battery V directly to the motor and see what the amps are? The fuse gets extremely hot (discoloration of paper in fuse box lid) and the relays in the area (Power seats, Aux fan and Power windows) are too hot to touch. That the fuse gets that hot indicates that you may have bad contacts in the fuse box itself. Take a Dremel wire brush to them. You may even need to get to the back side of it and clean the screw terminals and ring lugs. That kind of heat is itself sufficient to weaken a fuse and cause it to eventually blow. Also, were not some cars officially retrofitted to a larger strap fuse for the ACC blower? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My latest score
I could sell you one or the other, but I dont think I could sell both, then I wouldnt have anything to drive!! If you are really interested I could get you some pics of that 2.5. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] My latest score Kaleb, Now that you have that score, you want to sell me your POS 300SDL CHEP? How about a package deal for the SDL and the 300D 2.5? BTW, have you got any pictures of the 300D 2.5 in discussion? Loren At 09:02 PM 9/13/2007, you wrote: So I today I buy a 92 300SD from the Mercedes dealer in Wichita. I got them down 2k off there already VERY cheap price. 137k miles. Damn thing is near perfect. They dont mess with those old cars like that. I am surprised they didnt just run it thru the auction right off the bat. Geez, I have been missing the 140. It makes the 126 look like a POS FROD or something. When I got it home and was digging thru it, what do I find in the rear seat pocket but a BRAND NEW Ipod Nano. I mean BRAND NEW. Never been opened. Holy crap!! I dont care anything about Ipods but the wife does. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing engine mounts W124 300D
Nothing has to be disconnected - just jack up under the pan with a large piece of wood to distribute the load do one at a time. Expect to have trouble aligning the bolts if the mounts are in really bad shape because the engine will have settled. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing engine mounts W124 300D I don't recall having to remove or disconnect anything when I replaced mine . On 9/19/07, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully will get going on replacing mounts on my 300D. What needs to be disconnected eg water pipes/control lines etc so that one can sufficiently lift engine to replace the mounts? PEter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Confusing window A/C
. Instead of a combined capacitor unit you certainly could have used separate capacitors for the fan, 7.3uf and for compressor a 35uf . Most likely the fan capacitor went bad causing the fan motor to overheat. I have used an redundant fridge compressor as a vacuum pump. as the compressor will not be under a starting load as a vacuum pump it will run without a capacitor just on the 'Run' winding as mine does. mak - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Confusing window A/C [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A ten year old 6000 btu Amana Quiet Cool window A/c in the shop quit running after I had smelled hot electronics for a short while. The circuit boards, the fan motor, and the wiring don't look smoked; but the condenser is so rusty I wonder if it might be the cause of the smell. The circuit diagram is illegible from exposure to rain, etc. The fan motor has three leads so I suspected it is a typical three speed motor setup and it was confirmed on the label but the label gave no color codes for the wires. The compressor also has three leads and a (common?) lead comes in through a separate thermal switch . The part I find confusing is a big capacitor which has three leads and a rating of both 7.5 mfd and 35 mfd. From looking at the label on the blower motor, it doesn't appear to be a capacitor start or capacitor run motor, so I would guess that both the blower motor and the compressor use the capacitor simply to give them a little more amperage when they start up since they both start at once on some settings of the dial; but that's just a wild guess. Gerry, I believe you will find that this is a RUN capacitor, dual rated with the lower rating going to the condenser fan motor, and the higher for the compressor. The cooling fan does not require a capacitor. Look carefully for swelling, especially on the ends, and of course, leakage. A 10 year old cap is your likely your culprit, with my guess being the condenser fan motor will not run and is overheating, causing the smell. The condenser fan should spin freely and being outdoors, can start to seize up over time. Oil might be all you need. Both Johnstones and Graingers have good prices on these and will take cash sales from individuals. I would not screw with the controls as there are a lot of safety devices and interlocks. You don't want to set fire to your window, and all that is attached! Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles -- Thanks, Jim. After further disassembly and cleaning off some of the crud, I found that the fan motor which runs both the evaporator and condenser fan has a label on the motor showing that it does need a capacitor in it's circuit. The motor turns freely but it smells so much like burnt wiring, I doubt it will run very long if at all. Think I'll junk this A/C and get a new one since the dual 7.5-35 mfd capacitors are scarce and pretty expensive on the internet. Would like to use the compressor (with a 35 mfd cap?) as a vacuum pump if it's still good. I would guess that the capacitor would be wired between two of the three terminals on the compressor, or would I be wrong? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
My 240D played that game too. Take the sunroof headliner down, you might have to open it a bit more to do so but thats okay. Now run it as closed as it'll get, theres a bar across the sunroof that the cable attaches to. Hold the sunroof button with one hand, grab the bar right at the cable with the other and force it closed. Moving the bar should force the rear of the sunroof up. -Curt Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:05:52 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Great instructions. Yeah, I don't really have the service manual, so can't consult that. As for just getting the thing closed for now: I got in the trunk and attempted to turn the thing the owner's manual describes as a hex shaped thing. So I put a socket on the hex nut and turned. It got harder to turn as it went. I did see something inside the motor turning though. The manual says clockwise closes the roof. So just to try to see how things work, I turned counterclockwise, and the nut began to unthread from its center shaft. Wonder if the factory tool was made to turn this center shaft (which has a couple of flats and the rest is round) instead of the nut? (factory tool is missing). I turned the center shaft with some pliers and it rotated a bit, then started to sort of strip out. When I let go of it, it rotates back counterclockwise a bit. I have physically pulled and pushed the sunroof shut, but it won't raise up and seal up to the roof in the rear. I thought the thing was designed so that it could be reliably opened and closed manually from the trunk. Maybe that's just in the case of a motor failure, not a binding-up situation? Brian - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blinker relay
Rick T. wrote: Thanks. I hope your long years in Topeka are paying off now. They are. You know Topeka wasn't really that bad. Other than having to see Fred Phelps running around with his nasty signs. I am one of those strange people that enjoyed law school. If I could go back and be a law professor, I would. Topeka is not a bad town, I just like the size of Wichita a little better. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
On 9/16/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.openoffice.org an even better deal --R And, if for some reason you have something against *free* open source software, you can now get the parent app, Sun Star Office (*pay* closed source), for free as well. http://pack.google.com/intl/en/pack_installer.html?hl=engl=us If you don't want the other software, uncheck it in the Google Download app that installs for the Google Pack. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing engine mounts W124 300D
Thanks guys PEter -Original Message- From: Tom Hargrave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 September 2007 14:50 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing engine mounts W124 300D Nothing has to be disconnected - just jack up under the pan with a large piece of wood to distribute the load do one at a time. Expect to have trouble aligning the bolts if the mounts are in really bad shape because the engine will have settled. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing engine mounts W124 300D I don't recall having to remove or disconnect anything when I replaced mine . On 9/19/07, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully will get going on replacing mounts on my 300D. What needs to be disconnected eg water pipes/control lines etc so that one can sufficiently lift engine to replace the mounts? PEter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:39:04 -0400 Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/16/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.openoffice.org an even better deal --R And, if for some reason you have something against *free* open source software, you can now get the parent app, Sun Star Office (*pay* closed source), for free as well. http://pack.google.com/intl/en/pack_installer.html?hl=engl=us Google Pack requires Windows XP or Vista Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing engine mounts W124 300D
Unclip the fan shroud, otherwise you may get the fan stuck in it, you have to lift pretty high to get them in. Right side is a pain, you must be underneath, and that is where all the oil leaks run through, quite messy. Left side accesable from the top for the top bolt. Make sure you get the detent in the top of the mount engaged in the nub on the engine carrier, and don't drop the lower bolt, it rolls down the frame member and is a real pain to retrieve. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Failed Emissions Inspection
having a 93 E300 2.8 that just failed emissions in NJ. Is there any way to check a catalytic converter to see if it is working or not? I am about to check for vacume leaks and change the 02 sensor. While I am at it is there any preliminary checks I can do? Robb NJ 93 300E,85 380SL,81 300D89 300SEL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Failed Emissions Inspection
There is no self diagnostic function on the catalytic converter, easy thing is to plug your car into a computer and see what the go is. You can spend 's on replacing stuff, only to find that a wire was loose somewhere. The series 124's have quite a sophisticated self diagnostic system and overall it is more cost effective to pay a equipped Merc workshop to analyze your car, rather than spending money on replacing serviceable parts. Perhaps Rusty could let you know how much a cat for your car is. Generally if everything else checks out fine, then the catalytic converter is thought to be the trouble of high emissions. I take it you are running the correct grade of fuel for your car? Robb Taglieri wrote: having a 93 E300 2.8 that just failed emissions in NJ. Is there any way to check a catalytic converter to see if it is working or not? I am about to check for vacume leaks and change the 02 sensor. While I am at it is there any preliminary checks I can do? Robb NJ 93 300E,85 380SL,81 300D89 300SEL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow
Fuse # 11 (25A) indeed feeds the blower speed control and the Compressor clutch. If I run the blower without the compressor on (unplugging the pressure cut-out switch) should give it away which is at fault. On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember correctly, the fuse feeds more than just the blower motor. It also feeds the AC compressor. The fuse holder could be bad but more than likely, it's just turned dark from continuous heat. It's possible that your AC clutch is in trouble. Sometimes a few windings will short out the clutch will draw excessive current, but it will still function. The blower motor will work fine until you put it on high where the entire load on the fuse exceeds the fuse rating. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Neureiter Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow I neglected to mention that this applies to the '82 300 SD. There is no added fuse. The fuse clips for this circuit, especially the bottom one look burnet. One other observation that bothers me is that the blower runs only at low speed when in AUTO mode. On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the 300E's were retrofit with an in-line fuse because they did not have a fuse in 86 or 87. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow My blower fuse (25A) blows after a few hours of ACC operation, faster if fan is run on high. I suspect a bad blower motor, but is it? How about the pre-resistors or the blower control? Can I supply + battery V directly to the motor and see what the amps are? The fuse gets extremely hot (discoloration of paper in fuse box lid) and the relays in the area (Power seats, Aux fan and Power windows) are too hot to touch. That the fuse gets that hot indicates that you may have bad contacts in the fuse box itself. Take a Dremel wire brush to them. You may even need to get to the back side of it and clean the screw terminals and ring lugs. That kind of heat is itself sufficient to weaken a fuse and cause it to eventually blow. Also, were not some cars officially retrofitted to a larger strap fuse for the ACC blower? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
I don't have time now for cleanup/fixup, but I am going to sell the 300TE. It is an 88 White/blue interior. NO RUST It is from an affluent DC suburb in VA, and has not been driven in the winter since I got it. It has over 200k miles, but is in good running order. Changing the trans fluid/filter did clear up the glitch in the transmission from last year. I want to find a 92-93 TE to replace it. It has the third seat. It is not a show car, but it is very decent looking. It is missing the inner fender plastic liner, and has the front of the rocker bent from the worthless new Jokohama tire. the really good: New rear struts and steel hydraulic lines to the struts, rebuilt tandem pump and lotsa fresh special fluid in the suspension system. It has never leaked a drop since I put it back together. Tires are good-very good. Has a good aftermarket alpine cd player. Interior is good, but not pristine. no holes or tears in the interior. It matches the 87 300TD I am also going to sell later in the fall. It has been fun to have a matching pair. We play fool the neighbors. Buy a pair, have a ball! I will be listing the car for sale in early Nov, after I have time for cleanup/fixup, but if anyone wants it now, please email me offlist. everything is there to make a car that will run another 100k to 200k miles even in the rustbelt with proper care and a little TLC. Good for hauling newspapers, pets and other stuff. I can show you the receipts for the new struts and lines from Rusty, along with a few hundred dollars worth of other parts. When I got it I put in a new coil and battery too. We drive it regularly on 500 mile trips. located in central IA, USA Pick it up at IowaQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Faeth 87 300TD 88 300 TE soon to be for sale 87 300D soon to be for sale 300SDL waiting for a good home. (also for sale or for parts) et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
I stopped by another hardware store yesterday (my fourth try!) and bought two tool brushes that look like they're about the right size. $7.60, we'll see if it was wasted money. (Three stores had nothing at all, the fourth had four plastic bins of them.) The new brushes are 1/4x3/16x3/4, they're only about 3/16 longer than the ones they're replacing. I cut off the old brush tails and soldered the new ones in their places. They're a tiny bit looser than the originals in one direction, but they're the best I could do on short notice. They should be more than good enough to prove whether the rest of the generator works or not. I wrapped sandpaper around a paint can cap to rub the new brushes against to get some curve to them to better match the slip rings. Moment of truth time! I put the repaired brush pack in, flashed the field winding, and started it. Nothing. When I fed +12V into the field I got about 20V out of the generator. I measured the DC field output of the regulator under those conditions and got 28V or more. Is it possible this generator needs higher than +12V field for operation? If so, it's certainly not getting it on its own. Disgusted, I did manage to turn the battery around. The positive cable is definitely too short, but I managed to make it reach anyway. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
The field, interestingly enough, measures some resistance to frame ground from each terminal, it is _not_ isolated. I'm thinking that's not a good sign. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions/milestone list
_http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Aug07/29_Special_Feature_Innovation_As_A_Traditi on_At_Mercedes_Benz_13.html_ (http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Aug07/29_Special_Feature_Innovation_As_A_Tradition_At_Mercedes_Benz_13.html) Try this link for a list of milestones which appear to be on an official MB site. Both of my 63 300SE's had factory looking belts but I don't know where they were installed. My 65 Euro 300SEB had lap belts. I remember I moved the passenger side belt over to the drivers side and used an existing mounting point to make a diagonal belt over the lap belt Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
How much? Would you take a VW Quantum in on trade? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Compressor clutch coil resistance ? (was Blower fuse blows slow)
Does anyone know the electrical specs for the compressor clutch on a '82 300 SD? I remember a number of 2.5 to 3 A @ 13.5 V (makes it 5.4 to 4.5 Ohm). On 9/19/07, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuse # 11 (25A) indeed feeds the blower speed control and the Compressor clutch. If I run the blower without the compressor on (unplugging the pressure cut-out switch) should give it away which is at fault. On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember correctly, the fuse feeds more than just the blower motor. It also feeds the AC compressor. The fuse holder could be bad but more than likely, it's just turned dark from continuous heat. It's possible that your AC clutch is in trouble. Sometimes a few windings will short out the clutch will draw excessive current, but it will still function. The blower motor will work fine until you put it on high where the entire load on the fuse exceeds the fuse rating. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Neureiter Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow I neglected to mention that this applies to the '82 300 SD. There is no added fuse. The fuse clips for this circuit, especially the bottom one look burnet. One other observation that bothers me is that the blower runs only at low speed when in AUTO mode. On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the 300E's were retrofit with an in-line fuse because they did not have a fuse in 86 or 87. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow My blower fuse (25A) blows after a few hours of ACC operation, faster if fan is run on high. I suspect a bad blower motor, but is it? How about the pre-resistors or the blower control? Can I supply + battery V directly to the motor and see what the amps are? The fuse gets extremely hot (discoloration of paper in fuse box lid) and the relays in the area (Power seats, Aux fan and Power windows) are too hot to touch. That the fuse gets that hot indicates that you may have bad contacts in the fuse box itself. Take a Dremel wire brush to them. You may even need to get to the back side of it and clean the screw terminals and ring lugs. That kind of heat is itself sufficient to weaken a fuse and cause it to eventually blow. Also, were not some cars officially retrofitted to a larger strap fuse for the ACC blower? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
You wrote:on the seatbelt as std. equipment, I think MB was late to the dance, as all US cars had them factory installed in 65 or 66. To their benefit, MB Not sure about the front belts - but MB was early in putting shoulder belts in the rear seat position. My 78 240D has them and some cars made in early 90s did not have them... My Mons 91 Olds did not for instance - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions My 66 110 200D did not come with factory seat belts. They were federally mandated in the USA in 1966. My 66 has dealer installed german belts. My 62 110 did have mounting points for 3 point belts, but came from the factory with a shoulder belt only. It was European delivery, but there were no US specific Models until 1968. I am not sure about models released before the 1959 debut of the 111, but all 111 and 110, 112 bodies have mounting points for 3 point belts. I think the /8 cars had seat belts standard equipment. the /8 made its USA debut in 1968, but I am not sure about the rest of the world. My 65 110 190Dc had seat belts, but they were also dealer installed, German. Alas, on the seatbelt as std. equipment, I think MB was late to the dance, as all US cars had them factory installed in 65 or 66. To their benefit, MB made seat belts available, at least as far back as the 50s. The factory had options for lap belts, shoulder belts and probably for 3 point belts it was up to the buyer, the dealer or the country (importer) to specify what belt type, or no belt.. I am pretty sure in the 300SL and SLR that seat belts were pretty much standard, although the factory probably had some different options, like maybe 4 point in the SLR I believe pontons also had mounting points, but again they were not standard equipment. almost all other features of modern cars made its debut on Mercedes Benz automobiles before other marques. the list is enormous. Almost every safety feature was standard in MB years before becoming available or standard from Detroit. If memory serves me, the 1914 Mercedes I saw in Vancouver, BC had an antitheft steering lock and ignition switch. It also had an electric starter and may other innovations not seen on US cars until years later. I was stunned that it had a battery and electric starter in 1914. in 1914, International Harvester was building trucks that still looked like a high wheel wagon, not a truck as we know them. Loren MB owner since 1971 At 11:15 PM 9/16/2007, you wrote: I'm helping someone compose the Mercedes Story for children and she's got me stumped on a couple of points: Does anyone know who designed the W136 170? I'm pretty sure it would have been Hermann Ahrens, who was design chief before and after the war, but haven't been able to find any definitive answer online. When did seat belts become standard in Mercedes? 1964? And is it true that MB was the first carmaker to install them as standard equipment? (Besides Tucker, I mean.) Appreciate any insight, Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 9/18/2007 11:53 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Generators
This is the website that I referred to earlier. Pretty good writeup by a fellow running a good sized generator as backup power. Randy http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/lister.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
90's? I am pretty sure it was a requirement at least by the 70's to have shoulder belts. I have never seen a GM car without shoulder belts and I have owned many from the 80's. You sure it was just not hacked up? Actually, nevermind, I see you were talking about the rear seat. No, I dont think 80's and early 90's had them in the rear, just lap belts. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions You wrote:on the seatbelt as std. equipment, I think MB was late to the dance, as all US cars had them factory installed in 65 or 66. To their benefit, MB Not sure about the front belts - but MB was early in putting shoulder belts in the rear seat position. My 78 240D has them and some cars made in early 90s did not have them... My Mons 91 Olds did not for instance - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions My 66 110 200D did not come with factory seat belts. They were federally mandated in the USA in 1966. My 66 has dealer installed german belts. My 62 110 did have mounting points for 3 point belts, but came from the factory with a shoulder belt only. It was European delivery, but there were no US specific Models until 1968. I am not sure about models released before the 1959 debut of the 111, but all 111 and 110, 112 bodies have mounting points for 3 point belts. I think the /8 cars had seat belts standard equipment. the /8 made its USA debut in 1968, but I am not sure about the rest of the world. My 65 110 190Dc had seat belts, but they were also dealer installed, German. Alas, on the seatbelt as std. equipment, I think MB was late to the dance, as all US cars had them factory installed in 65 or 66. To their benefit, MB made seat belts available, at least as far back as the 50s. The factory had options for lap belts, shoulder belts and probably for 3 point belts it was up to the buyer, the dealer or the country (importer) to specify what belt type, or no belt.. I am pretty sure in the 300SL and SLR that seat belts were pretty much standard, although the factory probably had some different options, like maybe 4 point in the SLR I believe pontons also had mounting points, but again they were not standard equipment. almost all other features of modern cars made its debut on Mercedes Benz automobiles before other marques. the list is enormous. Almost every safety feature was standard in MB years before becoming available or standard from Detroit. If memory serves me, the 1914 Mercedes I saw in Vancouver, BC had an antitheft steering lock and ignition switch. It also had an electric starter and may other innovations not seen on US cars until years later. I was stunned that it had a battery and electric starter in 1914. in 1914, International Harvester was building trucks that still looked like a high wheel wagon, not a truck as we know them. Loren MB owner since 1971 At 11:15 PM 9/16/2007, you wrote: I'm helping someone compose the Mercedes Story for children and she's got me stumped on a couple of points: Does anyone know who designed the W136 170? I'm pretty sure it would have been Hermann Ahrens, who was design chief before and after the war, but haven't been able to find any definitive answer online. When did seat belts become standard in Mercedes? 1964? And is it true that MB was the first carmaker to install them as standard equipment? (Besides Tucker, I mean.) Appreciate any insight, Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 9/18/2007 11:53 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
Re: [MBZ] OT: Confusing window A/C
Thanks, Mak. There are three unmarked terminals on the compressor. One is undoubtedly common since it has the thermal protector in series with it. If I touch the other two terminals in order to find out which will run the compressor, am I going to damage it if I touch the wrong one first? One shows 1.2 ohms to the common lead and the other shows 2.1 I don't think I have room for two capacitors in the A/C since the dual cap and the control pc boards take up most of the room in their compartment. Gerry --- - Original Message - From: M.Affzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Instead of a combined capacitor unit you certainly could have used separate capacitors for the fan, 7.3uf and for compressor a 35uf . Most likely the fan capacitor went bad causing the fan motor to overheat. I have used an redundant fridge compressor as a vacuum pump. as the compressor will not be under a starting load as a vacuum pump it will run without a capacitor just on the 'Run' winding as mine does. mak - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A ten year old 6000 btu Amana Quiet Cool window A/c in the shop quit running after I had smelled hot electronics for a short while. The circuit boards, the fan motor, and the wiring don't look smoked; but the condenser is so rusty I wonder if it might be the cause of the smell. The circuit diagram is illegible from exposure to rain, etc. The fan motor has three leads so I suspected it is a typical three speed motor setup and it was confirmed on the label but the label gave no color codes for the wires. The compressor also has three leads and a (common?) lead comes in through a separate thermal switch . The part I find confusing is a big capacitor which has three leads and a rating of both 7.5 mfd and 35 mfd. From looking at the label on the blower motor, it doesn't appear to be a capacitor start or capacitor run motor, so I would guess that both the blower motor and the compressor use the capacitor simply to give them a little more amperage when they start up since they both start at once on some settings of the dial; but that's just a wild guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
-- Original message -- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any thoughts regarding why that silly hex nut just spins and won't tighten? And any thoughts on how in the meantime I can get the roof to seal up? On my 300SDL, I got the sunroof somewhet closed using Irish curses. I than bougth some 3 wide magnetinc tape and ran it around the outside. Car is dark Blue, tape is black. SWHBO was reluctant to pay for roof repair. Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
- Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I stopped by another hardware store yesterday (my fourth try!) and bought two tool brushes that look like they're about the right size. $7.60, we'll see if it was wasted money. (Three stores had nothing at all, the fourth had four plastic bins of them.) The new brushes are 1/4x3/16x3/4, they're only about 3/16 longer than the ones they're replacing. I cut off the old brush tails and soldered the new ones in their places. They're a tiny bit looser than the originals in one direction, but they're the best I could do on short notice. They should be more than good enough to prove whether the rest of the generator works or not. I wrapped sandpaper around a paint can cap to rub the new brushes against to get some curve to them to better match the slip rings. Moment of truth time! I put the repaired brush pack in, flashed the field winding, and started it. Nothing. When I fed +12V into the field I got about 20V out of the generator. I measured the DC field output of the regulator under those conditions and got 28V or more. Is it possible this generator needs higher than +12V field for operation? If so, it's certainly not getting it on its own. Disgusted, I did manage to turn the battery around. The positive cable is definitely too short, but I managed to make it reach anyway. -- Jim --- Did you check to see if the windings might be shorted to ground? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions
Yea, my grandmother used to have a 68 (or maybe 69) big tank Olds Delmont 88 with that big engine in it. It had the lap belt with the seperate shoulder belt that was stored in those little clip things above the door. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:48:59 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 90's? I am pretty sure it was a requirement at least by the 70's to have shoulder belts. I have never seen a GM car without shoulder belts and I have owned many from the 80's. You sure it was just not hacked up? Actually, nevermind, I see you were talking about the rear seat. No, I dont think 80's and early 90's had them in the rear, just lap belts. Kaleb and all, My 68 Impala had front and rear shoulder harnesses. I still have a bag full of belts (seafoam green) that I took out of the wreck. The lap belt was separate from the shoulder belt--you never seen so many belts! They should be worth some money to some restorer of GM cars, some day. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions
In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:48:59 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 90's? I am pretty sure it was a requirement at least by the 70's to have shoulder belts. I have never seen a GM car without shoulder belts and I have owned many from the 80's. You sure it was just not hacked up? Actually, nevermind, I see you were talking about the rear seat. No, I dont think 80's and early 90's had them in the rear, just lap belts. Kaleb and all, My 68 Impala had front and rear shoulder harnesses. I still have a bag full of belts (seafoam green) that I took out of the wreck. The lap belt was separate from the shoulder belt--you never seen so many belts! They should be worth some money to some restorer of GM cars, some day. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hi Luther, When you say OpenSource are you referring to Abiword? It's an OpenSource word processor but perhaps OpenSource is a generic term? Anyway, I made sure I have the latest version and then looked under Tools as you suggest. Still no Envelope command. Perhaps I need a plug-in? Thx -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007 Copied right from the help file. See *.pdf attachment for the 1 minute envelope I just created. Envelope Creates an envelope. On three tab pages, you can specify the addressee and sender, the position and format for both addresses, the size of the envelope, and the envelope orientation. To access this command... Choose Insert - Envelope Luther On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:55:55 -0500, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree mostly. The one thing I use all the time in Word if printing envelopes. Perhaps Open does it also and I haven't found it yet. Other than that - and considering it;s free makes it a very good Suite. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007 I've used open office for over a year now. It can do everything Micro$#!t can do that the average user needs. It has most of the features that most advanced users need. You can't beat the price and cross-platform-compatibility with Win/Mac/Linux/Sparc/Solaris/FreeBSD etc. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: envelope-LarryT.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 20789 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/21b165c4/attachment.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow
In a message dated 9/19/2007 3:53:52 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My blower fuse (25A) blows after a few hours of ACC operation, faster if fan is run on high. I suspect a bad blower motor, but is it? How about the pre-resistors or the blower control? Can I supply + battery V directly to the motor and see what the amps are? The fuse gets extremely hot (discoloration of paper in fuse box lid) and the relays in the area (Power seats, Aux fan and Power windows) are too hot to touch. Hans, The 126s and several other models, were subject to a service bulletin which disconnected the factory fuse and added an in line fuse with either a 30 or a 40 amp fuse. Your stock fuse holder will overheat if you just try to up the fuse size, you already know that. The TSB, which I can't find just now, tells you how to do it. In fact, my 98 ML was subjected to the same field modification--I wonder if the engineers ever talk to each other! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions
I doubt those were standard equipment - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:48:59 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 90's? I am pretty sure it was a requirement at least by the 70's to have shoulder belts. I have never seen a GM car without shoulder belts and I have owned many from the 80's. You sure it was just not hacked up? Actually, nevermind, I see you were talking about the rear seat. No, I dont think 80's and early 90's had them in the rear, just lap belts. Kaleb and all, My 68 Impala had front and rear shoulder harnesses. I still have a bag full of belts (seafoam green) that I took out of the wreck. The lap belt was separate from the shoulder belt--you never seen so many belts! They should be worth some money to some restorer of GM cars, some day. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 9/18/2007 11:53 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nevermind - I googled OpenSource and see it's a specific Suite - although my Abi Suite was also billed as OpenSource which was also free. Looks like I need to tryOpenSource -- Thx!! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007 Hi Luther, When you say OpenSource are you referring to Abiword? It's an OpenSource word processor but perhaps OpenSource is a generic term? Anyway, I made sure I have the latest version and then looked under Tools as you suggest. Still no Envelope command. Perhaps I need a plug-in? Thx -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007 Copied right from the help file. See *.pdf attachment for the 1 minute envelope I just created. Envelope Creates an envelope. On three tab pages, you can specify the addressee and sender, the position and format for both addresses, the size of the envelope, and the envelope orientation. To access this command... Choose Insert - Envelope Luther On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:55:55 -0500, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree mostly. The one thing I use all the time in Word if printing envelopes. Perhaps Open does it also and I haven't found it yet. Other than that - and considering it;s free makes it a very good Suite. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007 I've used open office for over a year now. It can do everything Micro$#!t can do that the average user needs. It has most of the features that most advanced users need. You can't beat the price and cross-platform-compatibility with Win/Mac/Linux/Sparc/Solaris/FreeBSD etc. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: envelope-LarryT.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 20789 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070918/21b165c4/attachment.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 9/18/2007 11:53 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions
Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yea, my grandmother used to have a 68 (or maybe 69) big tank Olds Delmont 88 with that big engine in it. It had the lap belt with the seperate shoulder belt that was stored in those little clip things above the door. Parent's '71 Buick had the same thing. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow
That makes sense. The overloaded fuse holder just got worse with age and finally gives up. I just detach the wires for that fuse at the back and splice in a spade fuse holder and go from there. Thanks you all. On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's correct. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09/19/07 09:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Fuse # 11 (25A) indeed feeds the blower speed control and the Compressor clutch. If I run the blower without the compressor on (unplugging the pressure cut-out switch) should give it away which is at fault. On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember correctly, the fuse feeds more than just the blower motor. It also feeds the AC compressor. The fuse holder could be bad but more than likely, it's just turned dark from continuous heat. It's possible that your AC clutch is in trouble. Sometimes a few windings will short out the clutch will draw excessive current, but it will still function. The blower motor will work fine until you put it on high where the entire load on the fuse exceeds the fuse rating. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Neureiter Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow I neglected to mention that this applies to the '82 300 SD. There is no added fuse. The fuse clips for this circuit, especially the bottom one look burnet. One other observation that bothers me is that the blower runs only at low speed when in AUTO mode. On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the 300E's were retrofit with an in-line fuse because they did not have a fuse in 86 or 87. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow My blower fuse (25A) blows after a few hours of ACC operation, faster if fan is run on high. I suspect a bad blower motor, but is it? How about the pre-resistors or the blower control? Can I supply + battery V directly to the motor and see what the amps are? The fuse gets extremely hot (discoloration of paper in fuse box lid) and the relays in the area (Power seats, Aux fan and Power windows) are too hot to touch. That the fuse gets that hot indicates that you may have bad contacts in the fuse box itself. Take a Dremel wire brush to them. You may even need to get to the back side of it and clean the screw terminals and ring lugs. That kind of heat is itself sufficient to weaken a fuse and cause it to eventually blow. Also, were not some cars officially retrofitted to a larger strap fuse for the ACC blower? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
My Dad had Pontiacs when I was young. I remember his '61 Safari Wagon, that I drove most of the time, had seat belts. Maybe they were an option that year. And the early 70's Catalinas or Bonnevilles had shoulder belts. He also had a '69 2 dr Catalina with a ~400 cubes and a 3 on the tree. It was a bomb. It had seat belts, but I don't remember if it had a shoulder belt. My first Mercedes was a '69 250, and I'm pretty sure it had seat and shoulder belts. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300Dx2 and others ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow
That's correct. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09/19/07 09:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Fuse # 11 (25A) indeed feeds the blower speed control and the Compressor clutch. If I run the blower without the compressor on (unplugging the pressure cut-out switch) should give it away which is at fault. On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember correctly, the fuse feeds more than just the blower motor. It also feeds the AC compressor. The fuse holder could be bad but more than likely, it's just turned dark from continuous heat. It's possible that your AC clutch is in trouble. Sometimes a few windings will short out the clutch will draw excessive current, but it will still function. The blower motor will work fine until you put it on high where the entire load on the fuse exceeds the fuse rating. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Neureiter Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow I neglected to mention that this applies to the '82 300 SD. There is no added fuse. The fuse clips for this circuit, especially the bottom one look burnet. One other observation that bothers me is that the blower runs only at low speed when in AUTO mode. On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the 300E's were retrofit with an in-line fuse because they did not have a fuse in 86 or 87. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blower fuse blows slow My blower fuse (25A) blows after a few hours of ACC operation, faster if fan is run on high. I suspect a bad blower motor, but is it? How about the pre-resistors or the blower control? Can I supply + battery V directly to the motor and see what the amps are? The fuse gets extremely hot (discoloration of paper in fuse box lid) and the relays in the area (Power seats, Aux fan and Power windows) are too hot to touch. That the fuse gets that hot indicates that you may have bad contacts in the fuse box itself. Take a Dremel wire brush to them. You may even need to get to the back side of it and clean the screw terminals and ring lugs. That kind of heat is itself sufficient to weaken a fuse and cause it to eventually blow. Also, were not some cars officially retrofitted to a larger strap fuse for the ACC blower? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
When I was a kid maybe 5 or 6 a friend of my dad bought one of those huge Caddies with the monster tail fins and came over to take us for a ride. I sat in the back, and found some seatbelts, which were quite a novelty so I put mine on. He then proceeded to demonstrate the rear seat reclining feature, which involved the whole lower cushion motoring forward and pulling the bottom of the back with it. This of course worked to squeeze my innards considerably, and was quite frightening. I believe I yelped, and all laughed at my distress. I am still in therapy over that event, and have used it as a successful defense for all my transgressions for many years now. --R ned kleinhenz wrote: My Dad had Pontiacs when I was young. I remember his '61 Safari Wagon, that I drove most of the time, had seat belts. Maybe they were an option that year. And the early 70's Catalinas or Bonnevilles had shoulder belts. He also had a '69 2 dr Catalina with a ~400 cubes and a 3 on the tree. It was a bomb. It had seat belts, but I don't remember if it had a shoulder belt. My first Mercedes was a '69 250, and I'm pretty sure it had seat and shoulder belts. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300Dx2 and others ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions
Seat belts were mandated by the Feds in all US cars in 1966 model year on. Foreign models sold in the US after some date, possibly Sept 1, 1965 also had to have seat belts installed, thus the dealer install for a year or two, before the 3 point system was std in the /8 series, and 108/109, at least for US models sold through MBoA The 3 point system was not mandated by the Feds until years later, so once again, in reference to 3 point belts, MB was AHEAD of the pack again. The PO of my 66 200D had removed the seatbelts. I had to find junkyard belts to put back in it. and in the front, I used Volvo center mount clip belt system, It does not leave a clip end of the belt dangling, and is a much cleaner install than the belt bolted to the floor. But there were no retractors on the Volvo 3 point system. Those were standard on the /8 cars etc by 1968, but NOT on Detroit iron. Once again, MB was ahead of the pack, and Fed mandates. At 11:40 AM 9/19/2007, you wrote: I doubt those were standard equipment - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:48:59 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 90's? I am pretty sure it was a requirement at least by the 70's to have shoulder belts. I have never seen a GM car without shoulder belts and I have owned many from the 80's. You sure it was just not hacked up? Actually, nevermind, I see you were talking about the rear seat. No, I dont think 80's and early 90's had them in the rear, just lap belts. Kaleb and all, My 68 Impala had front and rear shoulder harnesses. I still have a bag full of belts (seafoam green) that I took out of the wreck. The lap belt was separate from the shoulder belt--you never seen so many belts! They should be worth some money to some restorer of GM cars, some day. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 9/18/2007 11:53 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
Heynow, If you're thinking of moving the Quantum out give a shout eh? -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:58:28 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How much? Would you take a VW Quantum in on trade? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions
A friend of mine in highschool had what I think was a '70 Nova that had separate lap and shoulder belts like that. What a PITA and fairly uncomfortable. IIRC the shoulder belt was just a lap belt installed differently. -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:18:55 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Quick Mercedes trivia questions To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:48:59 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 90's? I am pretty sure it was a requirement at least by the 70's to have shoulder belts. I have never seen a GM car without shoulder belts and I have owned many from the 80's. You sure it was just not hacked up? Actually, nevermind, I see you were talking about the rear seat. No, I dont think 80's and early 90's had them in the rear, just lap belts. Kaleb and all, My 68 Impala had front and rear shoulder harnesses. I still have a bag full of belts (seafoam green) that I took out of the wreck. The lap belt was separate from the shoulder belt--you never seen so many belts! They should be worth some money to some restorer of GM cars, some day. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
On 9/19/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pack.google.com/intl/en/pack_installer.html?hl=engl=us Google Pack requires Windows XP or Vista Craig So does Microsoft Office 2007, which is what started the conversation, so the assumption must be that interested parties are seeking an Office Suite to use on XP or Vista. I however am on a Mac, so it doesn't really concern me in either direction because none of it works for me. I have other software concerns. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
wow, that's VW gotta worth at least 200 bucks On 9/19/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much? Would you take a VW Quantum in on trade? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
If I could get it for $200, I'd drive it to the west coast and sell it for ten times that. Nice profit for a couple of days' work. On 9/19/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wow, that's VW gotta worth at least 200 bucks On 9/19/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much? Would you take a VW Quantum in on trade? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
I have twice that amount invested in new Regatta 2 tires. On 9/19/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I could get it for $200, I'd drive it to the west coast and sell it for ten times that. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gauges ground
My '83 300Ds fuel and temperature gauges went dead for one trip, then came back on for a second trip, now they are dead again. Can someone tell me where to check the ground? Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seatbelt I had a 1962 Triumph Spitfire, purchased in England as an Export version (they were marketed in the US starting 1963). It had non-retractable lap belts. On 9/19/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was a kid maybe 5 or 6 a friend of my dad bought one of those huge Caddies with the monster tail fins and came over to take us for a ride. I sat in the back, and found some seatbelts, which were quite a novelty so I put mine on. He then proceeded to demonstrate the rear seat reclining feature, which involved the whole lower cushion motoring forward and pulling the bottom of the back with it. This of course worked to squeeze my innards considerably, and was quite frightening. I believe I yelped, and all laughed at my distress. I am still in therapy over that event, and have used it as a successful defense for all my transgressions for many years now. --R ned kleinhenz wrote: My Dad had Pontiacs when I was young. I remember his '61 Safari Wagon, that I drove most of the time, had seat belts. Maybe they were an option that year. And the early 70's Catalinas or Bonnevilles had shoulder belts. He also had a '69 2 dr Catalina with a ~400 cubes and a 3 on the tree. It was a bomb. It had seat belts, but I don't remember if it had a shoulder belt. My first Mercedes was a '69 250, and I'm pretty sure it had seat and shoulder belts. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300Dx2 and others ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
Hans Neureiter wrote: I had a 1962 Triumph Spitfire, purchased in England as an Export version (they were marketed in the US starting 1963). It had non-retractable lap belts. I forgot about that. I guess I got into the habit of thinking all belts had retractors. One of my parents' vehicles had retractors in the belts instead of attached to the car body. I'm thinking it might have been the 67 Ambassador or the 70 Travelall. I don't think it was the 62 or 67 Rambler. Not even sure the 62 had belts. Anybody remember what I'm talking about? A lap belt with a spring winder in the middle of it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stop the Insanity - VW bug for 6800 bucks
Wow! Doesn't it seem weird though? You can get, even around here probably, a good Mercedes for about a third of 12k. The beetle was supposed to be a practicle little people mover, right? And isn't the design, quality, safety, etc. etc. of a MB vastly superior? Like I said, market. Brian On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It it's a convertible it's complete it's nice, then $6800 is a steal! A really nice VW bug convertible can go for 12K and it's been that way for a while. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:20 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Stop the Insanity - VW bug for 6800 bucks This mysterious force known as The Market amazes me. It's a convertible, but sheesh. Of course Im used to insanity living in Western WA. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stop the Insanity - VW bug for 6800 bucks
You have to compare like vehicles and in this case you have to compare convertible to convertible. What would a late-60's through mid-70's SL convertible in excellent condition go for? $17,000 - $24,000? Remember, I said in excellent condition. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stop the Insanity - VW bug for 6800 bucks Wow! Doesn't it seem weird though? You can get, even around here probably, a good Mercedes for about a third of 12k. The beetle was supposed to be a practicle little people mover, right? And isn't the design, quality, safety, etc. etc. of a MB vastly superior? Like I said, market. Brian On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It it's a convertible it's complete it's nice, then $6800 is a steal! A really nice VW bug convertible can go for 12K and it's been that way for a while. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:20 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Stop the Insanity - VW bug for 6800 bucks This mysterious force known as The Market amazes me. It's a convertible, but sheesh. Of course Im used to insanity living in Western WA. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
Loren when lookinh for a new TE the 1994 has the new motor. We had a 1995 E320 and it was great. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ I don't have time now for cleanup/fixup, but I am going to sell the 300TE. It is an 88 White/blue interior. NO RUST It is from an affluent DC suburb in VA, and has not been driven in the winter since I got it. It has over 200k miles, but is in good running order. Changing the trans fluid/filter did clear up the glitch in the transmission from last year. I want to find a 92-93 TE to replace it. It has the third seat. It is not a show car, but it is very decent looking. It is missing the inner fender plastic liner, and has the front of the rocker bent from the worthless new Jokohama tire. the really good: New rear struts and steel hydraulic lines to the struts, rebuilt tandem pump and lotsa fresh special fluid in the suspension system. It has never leaked a drop since I put it back together. Tires are good-very good. Has a good aftermarket alpine cd player. Interior is good, but not pristine. no holes or tears in the interior. It matches the 87 300TD I am also going to sell later in the fall. It has been fun to have a matching pair. We play fool the neighbors. Buy a pair, have a ball! I will be listing the car for sale in early Nov, after I have time for cleanup/fixup, but if anyone wants it now, please email me offlist. everything is there to make a car that will run another 100k to 200k miles even in the rustbelt with proper care and a little TLC. Good for hauling newspapers, pets and other stuff. I can show you the receipts for the new struts and lines from Rusty, along with a few hundred dollars worth of other parts. When I got it I put in a new coil and battery too. We drive it regularly on 500 mile trips. located in central IA, USA Pick it up at IowaQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Faeth 87 300TD 88 300 TE soon to be for sale 87 300D soon to be for sale 300SDL waiting for a good home. (also for sale or for parts) et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
93 should have the new motor --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ Loren when lookinh for a new TE the 1994 has the new motor. We had a 1995 E320 and it was great. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ I don't have time now for cleanup/fixup, but I am going to sell the 300TE. It is an 88 White/blue interior. NO RUST It is from an affluent DC suburb in VA, and has not been driven in the winter since I got it. It has over 200k miles, but is in good running order. Changing the trans fluid/filter did clear up the glitch in the transmission from last year. I want to find a 92-93 TE to replace it. It has the third seat. It is not a show car, but it is very decent looking. It is missing the inner fender plastic liner, and has the front of the rocker bent from the worthless new Jokohama tire. the really good: New rear struts and steel hydraulic lines to the struts, rebuilt tandem pump and lotsa fresh special fluid in the suspension system. It has never leaked a drop since I put it back together. Tires are good-very good. Has a good aftermarket alpine cd player. Interior is good, but not pristine. no holes or tears in the interior. It matches the 87 300TD I am also going to sell later in the fall. It has been fun to have a matching pair. We play fool the neighbors. Buy a pair, have a ball! I will be listing the car for sale in early Nov, after I have time for cleanup/fixup, but if anyone wants it now, please email me offlist. everything is there to make a car that will run another 100k to 200k miles even in the rustbelt with proper care and a little TLC. Good for hauling newspapers, pets and other stuff. I can show you the receipts for the new struts and lines from Rusty, along with a few hundred dollars worth of other parts. When I got it I put in a new coil and battery too. We drive it regularly on 500 mile trips. located in central IA, USA Pick it up at IowaQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Faeth 87 300TD 88 300 TE soon to be for sale 87 300D soon to be for sale 300SDL waiting for a good home. (also for sale or for parts) et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
The belt I am talking about is identical to what you find on commercial airliners. On 9/19/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: I had a 1962 Triumph Spitfire, purchased in England as an Export version (they were marketed in the US starting 1963). It had non-retractable lap belts. I forgot about that. I guess I got into the habit of thinking all belts had retractors. One of my parents' vehicles had retractors in the belts instead of attached to the car body. I'm thinking it might have been the 67 Ambassador or the 70 Travelall. I don't think it was the 62 or 67 Rambler. Not even sure the 62 had belts. Anybody remember what I'm talking about? A lap belt with a spring winder in the middle of it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
It seems than at Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:28:18 -0400, LarryT wrote: Hi Luther, When you say OpenSource are you referring to Abiword? It's an OpenSource word processor but perhaps OpenSource is a generic term? Open source, free software, other similar terms are used to describe the type of license that software is released under. Open*Office* is a particular product. In it is a word processor that is competition to Abiword. Abiword is smaller, but is a word processor only, while OpenOffice also has spreadsheet, drawing, presentation (like PowerPoint TM), paint, and database. If you have Abiword and then add Gnumeric for spreadsheet, Inkscape for draw, the GIMP for paint, and any number of database choices you can do much of what OpenOffice does - except OpenOffice - like MS Office - allows a text document to have a spreadsheet or draw item in it, etc. In many respects, I think the stand-alone products are better - but they don't integrate with each other which can be a big deal. -- Philip, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
Nope 1994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ 93 should have the new motor --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ Loren when lookinh for a new TE the 1994 has the new motor. We had a 1995 E320 and it was great. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ I don't have time now for cleanup/fixup, but I am going to sell the 300TE. It is an 88 White/blue interior. NO RUST It is from an affluent DC suburb in VA, and has not been driven in the winter since I got it. It has over 200k miles, but is in good running order. Changing the trans fluid/filter did clear up the glitch in the transmission from last year. I want to find a 92-93 TE to replace it. It has the third seat. It is not a show car, but it is very decent looking. It is missing the inner fender plastic liner, and has the front of the rocker bent from the worthless new Jokohama tire. the really good: New rear struts and steel hydraulic lines to the struts, rebuilt tandem pump and lotsa fresh special fluid in the suspension system. It has never leaked a drop since I put it back together. Tires are good-very good. Has a good aftermarket alpine cd player. Interior is good, but not pristine. no holes or tears in the interior. It matches the 87 300TD I am also going to sell later in the fall. It has been fun to have a matching pair. We play fool the neighbors. Buy a pair, have a ball! I will be listing the car for sale in early Nov, after I have time for cleanup/fixup, but if anyone wants it now, please email me offlist. everything is there to make a car that will run another 100k to 200k miles even in the rustbelt with proper care and a little TLC. Good for hauling newspapers, pets and other stuff. I can show you the receipts for the new struts and lines from Rusty, along with a few hundred dollars worth of other parts. When I got it I put in a new coil and battery too. We drive it regularly on 500 mile trips. located in central IA, USA Pick it up at IowaQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Faeth 87 300TD 88 300 TE soon to be for sale 87 300D soon to be for sale 300SDL waiting for a good home. (also for sale or for parts) et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
By the way -- affluent DC suburb in VA is redundant. By definition it is affluent. (My last tour was in DC suburb VA.) On 9/19/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is from an affluent DC suburb in VA, -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
According to the EPC, and every 93 I have ever seen, it was in fact in 93 when the 104 came out, in the wagon and Sedan. The coupe got it in ,90 James Zavesky wrote: Nope 1994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ 93 should have the new motor --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ Loren when lookinh for a new TE the 1994 has the new motor. We had a 1995 E320 and it was great. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ I don't have time now for cleanup/fixup, but I am going to sell the 300TE. It is an 88 White/blue interior. NO RUST It is from an affluent DC suburb in VA, and has not been driven in the winter since I got it. It has over 200k miles, but is in good running order. Changing the trans fluid/filter did clear up the glitch in the transmission from last year. I want to find a 92-93 TE to replace it. It has the third seat. It is not a show car, but it is very decent looking. It is missing the inner fender plastic liner, and has the front of the rocker bent from the worthless new Jokohama tire. the really good: New rear struts and steel hydraulic lines to the struts, rebuilt tandem pump and lotsa fresh special fluid in the suspension system. It has never leaked a drop since I put it back together. Tires are good-very good. Has a good aftermarket alpine cd player. Interior is good, but not pristine. no holes or tears in the interior. It matches the 87 300TD I am also going to sell later in the fall. It has been fun to have a matching pair. We play fool the neighbors. Buy a pair, have a ball! I will be listing the car for sale in early Nov, after I have time for cleanup/fixup, but if anyone wants it now, please email me offlist. everything is there to make a car that will run another 100k to 200k miles even in the rustbelt with proper care and a little TLC. Good for hauling newspapers, pets and other stuff. I can show you the receipts for the new struts and lines from Rusty, along with a few hundred dollars worth of other parts. When I got it I put in a new coil and battery too. We drive it regularly on 500 mile trips. located in central IA, USA Pick it up at IowaQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Faeth 87 300TD 88 300 TE soon to be for sale 87 300D soon to be for sale 300SDL waiting for a good home. (also for sale or for parts) et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
Your tax dollars at work! --R Wonko the Sane wrote: By the way -- affluent DC suburb in VA is redundant. By definition it is affluent. (My last tour was in DC suburb VA.) On 9/19/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is from an affluent DC suburb in VA, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please
My thoughts, also. I took my daughter down to look at it. Turns out the reason it was so cheap is that it wouldn't shift. A bit more looking at the other cars on that lot and she decided to look at private sellers. The entire lot was dirty and much used and abused. At this point she is looking for either a Voyager or a Corolla [less than $4k]. BillR -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 18, 2007 10:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please So it was leased in 2000, auctioned to a dealer resold less than a year later (first owner must not have liked it), traded in 2003, auctioned to dealer, resold, traded in 2007, auctioned to dealer, and now the car's been sitting there unsold since April? Quite a history for a 7 year old car, not that it really says anything about the car itself. A good PPI would tell you more about the car's condition than trying to draw inferences from the Carfax, but at least it hasn't been stolen, crashed, or flooded. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
To be more specific, senior military officers and civilian employees of the government stationed at the Pentagon buying houses they will occupy after retirement. Not that there is anything wrong with that ... On 9/19/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your tax dollars at work! -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please
Please gently guide her toward the Toyota. Good vehicle, almost as good as a Honda (but not quite). On 9/19/07, billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this point she is looking for either a Voyager or a Corolla [less than $4k]. BillR -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stop the Insanity - VW bug for 6800 bucks
I sold a 1974 914 for $4500, I thought that was a good deal for me... Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:41 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stop the Insanity - VW bug for 6800 bucks You have to compare like vehicles and in this case you have to compare convertible to convertible. What would a late-60's through mid-70's SL convertible in excellent condition go for? $17,000 - $24,000? Remember, I said in excellent condition. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stop the Insanity - VW bug for 6800 bucks Wow! Doesn't it seem weird though? You can get, even around here probably, a good Mercedes for about a third of 12k. The beetle was supposed to be a practicle little people mover, right? And isn't the design, quality, safety, etc. etc. of a MB vastly superior? Like I said, market. Brian On 9/19/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It it's a convertible it's complete it's nice, then $6800 is a steal! A really nice VW bug convertible can go for 12K and it's been that way for a while. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:20 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Stop the Insanity - VW bug for 6800 bucks This mysterious force known as The Market amazes me. It's a convertible, but sheesh. Of course Im used to insanity living in Western WA. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
more like your tax dollars laying waste your tax dollars AT waste OR your tax dollars laying waste to the pristine countryside. At 07:05 PM 9/19/2007, you wrote: Your tax dollars at work! --R Wonko the Sane wrote: By the way -- affluent DC suburb in VA is redundant. By definition it is affluent. (My last tour was in DC suburb VA.) On 9/19/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is from an affluent DC suburb in VA, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
No matter to me. the M103 seems very nice. Actually I always liked the old M180 with Solex. You can't hardly even give me an MB with Zeniths unless I have time to scrap it. I am sure the M104 is good also, but I know nothing about it. I have learned a little about the 102 and 103 engines. The 102 in Euro trim is an impressive engine! At 06:28 PM 9/19/2007, you wrote: According to the EPC, and every 93 I have ever seen, it was in fact in 93 when the 104 came out, in the wagon and Sedan. The coupe got it in ,90 James Zavesky wrote: Nope 1994 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ 93 should have the new motor Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick Mercedes trivia questions
Anybody remember what I'm talking about? A lap belt with a spring winder in the middle of it? There's the common Borg-Warner Roll-a-Belt, as found in the back seats of many vintage MB's. It's an aftermarket twister that winds up the regular (non-retractable) belt. I use them in our SL's, for the back-seat baby tie-down. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gauges ground
My '83 300Ds fuel and temperature gauges went dead for one trip, then came back on for a second trip, now they are dead again. Can someone tell me where to check the ground? Behind the instrument cluster? The cluster's own internal grounds can also go bad. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
Did you check to see if the windings might be shorted to ground? It looks like the center of the field winding might be, each slip ring measures in the 5-9 ohm range to frame ground. I'm guessing that's not good? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
Plans are sort of loose at the moment. Probably gather at the homestead late morning or early afternoon and see what everyone wants to do. Hey, this is Jefferson! Even if the crowd heads out somewhere (i.e. Deal's Orchard), we will most likely be no more than 5 miles from my house and contact with the group is but a cell phone call away. On 9/19/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, the official IowaQ website has no info on it besides the date. What are the plans? When are you going to conduct the raid on West Central to get everyones tanks full of BioD? At 06:26 PM 9/19/2007, you wrote: By the way -- affluent DC suburb in VA is redundant. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CarFax, please
billr wrote: At this point she is looking for either a Voyager or a Corolla [less than $4k]. Now those two sound interchangeable. ;-) I've been told (mainly in the context of eBay) to never buy a car from a FL used car dealer. Maybe private seller isn't as bad. Used Toys and Hondas never seem like a good deal up here in MI. Either they are overpriced or overworn or both. (Sure, I'd love to pay you $3500 for your 1992 Crudolla. Not.) Won't $3500 get you a decent '87 300D or SDL, or a very nice 300E? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Confusing window A/C
the 1.2 ohm is the starter and the second one is the running windings . you will not damage anything even with the wrong connection as there is no starting load now The correct winding will be the one with the lower current drain.and a nice even running of the ccompressor. regards mak Thanks, Mak. There are three unmarked terminals on the compressor. One is undoubtedly common since it has the thermal protector in series with it. If I touch the other two terminals in order to find out which will run the compressor, am I going to damage it if I touch the wrong one first? One shows 1.2 ohms to the common lead and the other shows 2.1 I don't think I have room for two capacitors in the A/C since the dual cap and the control pc boards take up most of the room in their compartment. Gerry --- - Original Message - From: M.Affzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Instead of a combined capacitor unit you certainly could have used separate capacitors for the fan, 7.3uf and for compressor a 35uf . Most likely the fan capacitor went bad causing the fan motor to overheat. I have used an redundant fridge compressor as a vacuum pump. as the compressor will not be under a starting load as a vacuum pump it will run without a capacitor just on the 'Run' winding as mine does. mak - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] A ten year old 6000 btu Amana Quiet Cool window A/c in the shop quit running after I had smelled hot electronics for a short while. The circuit boards, the fan motor, and the wiring don't look smoked; but the condenser is so rusty I wonder if it might be the cause of the smell. The circuit diagram is illegible from exposure to rain, etc. The fan motor has three leads so I suspected it is a typical three speed motor setup and it was confirmed on the label but the label gave no color codes for the wires. The compressor also has three leads and a (common?) lead comes in through a separate thermal switch . The part I find confusing is a big capacitor which has three leads and a rating of both 7.5 mfd and 35 mfd. From looking at the label on the blower motor, it doesn't appear to be a capacitor start or capacitor run motor, so I would guess that both the blower motor and the compressor use the capacitor simply to give them a little more amperage when they start up since they both start at once on some settings of the dial; but that's just a wild guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
I still dont know who is going Loren Faeth wrote: By the way, the official IowaQ website has no info on it besides the date. What are the plans? When are you going to conduct the raid on West Central to get everyones tanks full of BioD? At 06:26 PM 9/19/2007, you wrote: By the way -- affluent DC suburb in VA is redundant. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] presale: 300TE IowaQ
Everyone who is anyone will be there. Except Mitch -- still don't know about him. And one should be there won't be because of a scheduling conflict. On 9/19/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still dont know who is going Loren Faeth wrote: By the way, the official IowaQ website has no info on it besides the date. What are the plans? When are you going to conduct the raid on West Central to get everyones tanks full of BioD? At 06:26 PM 9/19/2007, you wrote: By the way -- affluent DC suburb in VA is redundant. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
