[MBZ] Bad fuseholder
When a fuseholder in an '83 300D overheats, melts the plastic, oxidizes the contact, etc; what is the best fix? All I can think of is to solder wires on the contacts, run the wires outside the cover and attach a regular fuseholder. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why no two stroke diesels? Damn good reasons.
Two stroke diesels need superchargers to get air in the cylinders, as Hendrik says. They tend to have a narrow power band, as Tom Hargrave said. Herewith an illustration of why no two stroke diesels in cars, taken from real life: When I was in the army in a past life, my unit had Letourneau Turnadozers, which were an abominable tractor with four huge fat rubber tired wheels on a really close coupled short wheelbase. They steered with steering clutches and brakes, all electrically operated. Each one ws issued with a large VOM for troubleshooting. They needed the VOM's. The power unit was a GMC 6-71 diesel, supercharged of course, at the engine drove a generator. The engine ran at one governed speed which must have been near as fast as the thing would turn. You could hear one screaming for it seemed like miles. The supercharger made much of the scream I forget how we started them. Seems like we popped ether capsules in a fixture into the intake and cranked, with a starter of course.. I promise you no sane person would want anything even vaguely resembling the Tournadozer power plant in a car. Or a truck. And they shouldn't have been in The TD's. I understand the Tournapull, a two wheel pure pulling unit, was really pretty good. The TD's were awful. Nothing but trouble. It didn't help that they were old at the time. -- Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no 2 stroke diesels Two stroke in general never really took off in the car segment. The disadvantage of 2 stroke Diesels is that they need a supercharger to make em work. Why design a complicated 2 stroke engine when it is far easier to build a four stroke. Petrol two strokes don't need a supercharger and are relatively light, which makes them ideal for applications where horsepower is needed but a heavy engine isn't. Such as chainsaws, motorcycles (particularly off road ones) and a variety of other special things. Perhaps with the introduction of CDI technology we may see a two stroke Diesel in cars, or even small Diesel motors in general. Peter Merle wrote: > Why does the 2 stoke diesel not exist in passenger cars ? Are the > emmisions too high? > Peter > > ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing valve stem seals.
Hi Frederick, That was a great walk through of doing the seals. :-) Thanks for that. How much psi. do you use to hold the valve in place? Do you lock the crank before applying the air pressure? Thanks again Frederick. Regards, Ed 300E On 21/09/2007, Frederick Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ed. > Valve guides are replaced with the head off. It is theoretically possible > to pull the guides with out removing the head but most likely the valve > seats will be worn and would no longer be concentric with the valves and > guides. The guides are driven in and usually have to be reamed. > Replacing the seals is just tedious not difficult. Remove spark plug, > inject air pressure via an adapter to keep the valve hard against the seat. > If you can balance the piston that you are working on at TDC it may help > stop the valve from falling into the engine should the air pressure fail. > (BTDT) remove valve gear at the cyl. that you are working on only (rocker > etc.) use an external valve spring compressor ( hooks under the cam and > pushes down on the valve spring ) remove keepers (use pencil magnet) gently > release compressor and take off the spring. Pull out the seal, check for > debris around the valve guide, use the seal protector, ( clear tube supplied > with VSOS kit) and put a smear of engine oil around the seal lip and press > on. Hand pressure against a deep socket with extension works for me. Curse a > bit as you wrestle the seal protector off > Replace spring, compress and install keepers. Do the other valve in that > pair. > Repeat. > As we say in Yinglant, Rotsa Ruck! > All you genii please add you comments, condemnations and insults. > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Dieselitis Maximus ( With a little gas on the side) > > E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: anybody want to give me a quick walk > though of changing valve guides and > also the stem seals?? I'm sure mine are about due with 340,000 on them. > Ed > 300E > > > > > - > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! > Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! > Games. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gear Indicator Light - 1991 300D 2.5T W124
Thanks Peter, That sounds easy enough. If the bulb is he one I;m thinking it is, I have several in my toolbox - I believe they are available in clear and fogged. Thanks for the help - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Peter Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gear Indicator Light - 1991 300D 2.5T W124 > Under the console cover, if it's like the '87 W124, just lift the > carped in the console "bin" and remove screw, then lift up on the > bracket (don't pull on the trim panel, you can rip the bracket off). > The mirror switch and fader come up with the panel. > > Bulb is a tiny baseless type, take it with you when looking for a > replacement. Same one as the headlight switch and vent control knobs. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: > 9/20/2007 12:07 PM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 parts needed
I guess the old cliche about beauty being "in the eye of the beholder" is true! Evidently more people feel like you than I since the W107 was so popular for so long. I guess the earlier W113 was appealing to me because it was smaller. Anyway - there's plenty of them out there and for a while they never dropped below $14K - now I see many for $5K to $10K. But they probably need a lot of work -- Enjoy your weekend - ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 107 parts needed >> Don;t forget they handle like buckets on ice skates are underpowered >> and >> rust when there's clouds on the horizon. Never could figure out why >> some >> women go crazy over them -- > > They are boulevard cruisers, not sports cars. But I love the > look of them. I must, to have bought four of them! > >> Between the 280SL Pagoda roof and the mid 90s SL redesign was an ocean >> of >> poor design. IMHO. > > Just the opposite for me. Don't particularly like the 107's > predecessor, and the 129 successor looks a lot like a mid-80's > Mustang to my eye. Maybe when they get a lot cheaper... > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: > 9/20/2007 12:07 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M103 vs OM603 vs OM617: Help me decide
> Nice but breathless, lousy milage from too small an engine. > > The SDL is a better buy IF it has a new head. I've never heard of > anyone successfully welding those up. > > New head will be good for about 300,000 more miles. > > Peter I had a 300sd and 300e and side by side and in daily driving preferred the performance of the sd. If you have any hills, the 617 pulls better. For the same peformance the 103 is shifting more often to get into a powerband that isn't that great to begin with- and this is in a 124 chassis car. The 126 is heavier, but not by a huge amount. 420's and 560's can be had for dirt cheap now, and the mileage difference isn't great. Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad fuseholder
> When a fuseholder in an '83 300D overheats, melts the plastic, > oxidizes the > contact, etc; what is the best fix? All I can think of is to solder > wires > on the contacts, run the wires outside the cover and attach a regular > fuseholder. My suggestions, in order of desirability: 1) Restore the existing contact by burnishing it clean. Can't do it if it's deformed the fuse box, though. 2) Replace fuse box with junkyard unit. Not that hard to do on a 123. 3) Run ring terminals from the screws behind the fuse box to a proper external fuse block. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
> Have you ever tried "mining" something that was potted? No. But I've been thinking about it. Promises to be _extremely_ time-consuming, however. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 220D, syncro van, fox ads
Misc 70's-80's German Michigan/Indiana/Ohio Autotrader ads: 220D, two drivetrains, new paint, looks like no drivetrain installed $1000 http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CM2320085 VW Syncro van, engine built, surface rust touched up and primered, needs exhaust $3000 http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CM2320274 Audi Fox, low miles, no rust, stored inside. I haven't seen one of these in roadworthy shape for about 20 years. $3500, can't be worth that much. http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CMW2320120 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Best Movie of All Time is on
LeMans, 1971, Steve McQueen et al. is on HDNet Movies channel right now, complete with cheesy 1971 cinematography and music, but the cars and their engine sounds make it great. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing valve stem seals.
Hi, Ed et al. 100psi. plus works well, note that in most home air systems there is a lot of water, so don't take all day to do one cyl it might just rust up over night. Locking the crank is probably the best idea. It is sometimes impossible to balance the crank/piston at TDC as it likes to quickly go to BDC under pressure! Happy Wrenching. Fred Moir Lynn MA etc. E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How much psi. do you use to hold the valve in place? Do you lock the crank before applying the air pressure? Thanks again Frederick. Regards, Ed 300E - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
I continuely find myself wondering about your replies. You ask, I give you actual instructions that WILL work and you want to cirumvent them in ways that don't make any sense. Have you at least pulled the headliner down and looked in there yet? Maybe theres a dead squirrel or something blocking up the works... No removing the headliner is not just to give you something to push on its to allow you to push on the ONE THING THAT WILL HELP YOUR SITUATION EXACTLY. Thats why I said to do it... Besides which a suction cup thats strong enough to help in this case will surely damage the paint. -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:57:51 -0700 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay, so is the removal of the headliner simply to gain access to something to grab ahold of and pull? If so, I might consider using a suction cup (cheap dent puller dealy) and trying to pull from the outside. Brian - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
Well golly doing what I said would work did indeed work... Thats a shocker. Man, whats up with me and sarcasm today? Its supposed to be Saturday and I should be all happy and stuff. Last week was one of those "I can't believe the stupidity around me" weeks. I even called one of our tech support staff "The stupidest sonofabitch that ever roamed the earth". He thought my boss should know about that. My boss told him that if he didn't want to be called that he should get smarter... -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:52:05 -0700 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 YE! Just activated my manual sunfroof!! You guys didn't tell me this was an option. Opened the sunroof by hand about 3/4 of the way. Pulled down the healiner in front. First tried to pull it forward and out, but wouldn't go. So pushed it back. Then pulled the roof shut. Then after trying to think of things I might wedge in there to keep the roof lifted and sealed up, decided to pull in that bar. That made it pop up to apparently sealed position. YES! Then dawned on me that I can simply open the plataged thing by hand and shut it as desired and put the silly headliner back forward when done. Couldn't have done it without youz guyz' advice. Thanks. Now, to remove the motor for increased fuel efficiency. Brian - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
Zoltan Finks wrote: > Good. I forgot about the junk yard option. Or perhaps I could re-tap > the threads. > > I need to do something, as now the wife wants to get rid of the car > because the sunroof is broken! (and because it only got 32 mpg on > mixed driving) Do NOT try to re-tap the threads. Get a junker assembly. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 78 240D AT fit 83 300D Turbo?
You may still have some forward speeds with a bad (but not completely stuck) B2 piston. If the car slips badly in first, but will hook up OK in higher gears, it's probably still the dreaded B2 problem. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 9/21/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's where you have reverse but no forward speeds? And it would apply to > an 83 300D? > > Thx -- > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] M117 in a W108 (was Re: M103 vs OM603 vs OM617: Help me decide)
OK, now I'm really going down the toilet. I've spotted a nice '72 280SE 4.5. The W108/9 is my favourite MB design of all time. I gather the 4.5 engines are, in principle, indestructible. I thought I heard rumblings about chains, but I think that's on the M116 3.8L engine, isn't it? But what about that pesky D-Jet injection system... Save me! D. -- David Bruckmann Systems Leader, North American Outsourcing Development & US Operations Transcontinental Printing - Newspaper Group Suite 219, 47102 Mission Falls Ct., Fremont, CA 94539 Tel +1 510-440-0198 Fax +1 510-440-0100 Cell +1 510-579-9920 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M117 in a W108 (was Re: M103 vs OM603 vs OM617: Help me decide)
D-Jet works just fine, but the repair parts (trigger points, dizzy, and throttle switches) are getting EXPENSIVE. They do need timing chains eventually (200,000 miles or so), and will need valve jobs in the 250,000 mile range just like anything else. Otherwise, don't run them super hot or out of oil and they live forever. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dial Indicator
Howdy - Someone suggested a DI on eBay which I ordered. It arrived today and looks to be pretty good quality. It's made by Federal of NJ BTW. Anyway --Thanks for the link -- I paid $12 for it plus $10 for shipping. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF
I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands and I am trying to learn something about them. Did fast and dirty web search and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with knowledge that will enlighten me. Radio buffs, respond over out -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 78 240D AT fit 83 300D Turbo?
Hmm... I'm wondering if I should go ahead and replace the B2 as PM for my 78? IIRC, they're not rea expensive - will check on it - Thx for the info. Now, if I can find out what's wrong with the 83 300D (waiting on email from owner) with the bad tranny for sale, maybe I'll be able to buy that one too! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Gary Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 78 240D AT fit 83 300D Turbo? > You may still have some forward speeds with a bad (but not completely > stuck) B2 piston. If the car slips badly in first, but will hook up OK > in higher gears, it's probably still the dreaded B2 problem. > > > Gary Thompson > 1995 E320 > > > On 9/21/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That's where you have reverse but no forward speeds? And it would apply >> to >> an 83 300D? >> >> Thx -- >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: > 9/21/2007 2:02 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 220D, syncro van, fox ads
The audi wasn't worth that much new. Those things were a wiring problem waiting to happen, at least all the dead and dying ones that crossed my path not long after they were new. Too bad the syncro isn't a diesel. -Robert Mitch Haley wrote: > Misc 70's-80's German Michigan/Indiana/Ohio Autotrader ads: > > 220D, two drivetrains, new paint, looks like no drivetrain installed $1000 > http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CM2320085 > > VW Syncro van, engine built, surface rust touched up and primered, needs > exhaust $3000 > http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CM2320274 > > Audi Fox, low miles, no rust, stored inside. I haven't seen one of these > in roadworthy shape for about 20 years. $3500, can't be worth that much. > http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CMW2320120 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M117 in a W108 (was Re: M103 vs OM603 vs OM617: Help medecide)
Ditto what Peter said - mine had a cam go bad and the injectors needed replacement from time to time. So it wll cost a small fortune in maintaence costs (at least that was my experience) - but the biggest problem with the W108 with the 4.5 is the poor fuel economy. Mine, a 72 SE 4.5, when tuned *perfectly* with all new parts would get 12-13mpg's. Fantastic acceleration - would chirp the tires when shifting from 3rd to 4th when carried out to max rpm;s. Like you and others, I love the W108 and read somewhere that the MB engineers considered the 280SEL 4.5 to be the best big MB ever. Awesome car though - especially when gas was <$.30 per gallon. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "David Bruckmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:59 AM Subject: [MBZ] M117 in a W108 (was Re: M103 vs OM603 vs OM617: Help medecide) > OK, now I'm really going down the toilet. I've spotted a nice '72 280SE > 4.5. The W108/9 is my favourite MB design of all time. I gather the 4.5 > engines are, in principle, indestructible. I thought I heard rumblings > about chains, but I think that's on the M116 3.8L engine, isn't it? But > what about that pesky D-Jet injection system... > > Save me! > > D. > -- > > > David Bruckmann > Systems Leader, > North American Outsourcing Development & US Operations > Transcontinental Printing - Newspaper Group > Suite 219, 47102 Mission Falls Ct., Fremont, CA 94539 > Tel +1 510-440-0198 Fax +1 510-440-0100 Cell +1 510-579-9920 > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: > 9/21/2007 2:02 PM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 220D, syncro van, fox ads
On 9/22/07, Robert & Tara Ludwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Too bad the syncro isn't a diesel. > Why, so it could be even slower? The good Lord intended Vanagons to have Subaru engines in them. http://www.vanaru.com/ Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 220D, syncro van, fox ads
>From my experience of owning one of those beasts [named the anti-christ] I >would question the assumption that the good lord had anything at all to do >with them. I think you have your directions all wrong as far as Vanagons go... BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD, currently getting a rebuilt transmission and LF caliper from Rusty. Ex-owner of a mid 80's sucking Vanagon from down below. -Original Message- >From: Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sep 22, 2007 6:09 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 220D, syncro van, fox ads > >On 9/22/07, Robert & Tara Ludwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Too bad the syncro isn't a diesel. >> > >Why, so it could be even slower? > >The good Lord intended Vanagons to have Subaru engines in them. > >http://www.vanaru.com/ > >Alex Chamberlain >'87 300D Turbo et al. > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
Curt told us: "He thought my boss should know about that. My boss told him that if he didn't want to be called that he should get smarter..." Good boss. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 78 240D AT fit 83 300D Turbo?
LarryT wrote: > Hmm... I'm wondering if I should go ahead and replace the B2 as PM for my > 78? IIRC, they're not rea expensive - will check on it - The 78 transmissions don't exhibit the B-2 failure. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF
Any other numbers there to help us? Model number, frequency, etc.? On 9/22/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands and I am > trying to learn something about them. Did fast and dirty web search > and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with > knowledge that will enlighten me. Radio buffs, respond > > over > > out -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2-stroke Ds
" I forget how we started them. Seems like we popped ether capsules in a fixture into the intake and cranked, with a starter of course." Yep. That's how you start them, at least in cold weather. Dan. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M103 vs OM603 vs OM617: Help me decide
Having owned both 617 and 603 cars, I far prefer the 603. It's a much nicer engine - smoother and quieter. By at least one estimate, must of the heads that are going to crack, have already. Mine has over 300,000 miles, original #14 head, is still strong, and no cracks (yet) (knocking on wood as I type this). I love the SDL - > > > > The SDL is a better buy IF it has a new head. I've never heard of > > anyone successfully welding those up. > > > > New head will be good for about 300,000 more miles. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
Best boss I've ever had. Stays out of my way as long as my work is up to date. If I tell him we need something we get it, etc. I've been working for him pretty much for four years (less a six month disaster working for the idiot the idiot tech I was complaining about works for). With the exception of working for my Dad this is the only boss I've ever had that I don't consider dumber than a potato... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:15:44 -0700 From: "Robert Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Curt told us: "He thought my boss should know about that. My boss told him that if he didn't want to be called that he should get smarter..." Good boss. Bob R - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 22, Issue 120
On Sep 22, 2007, at 6:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I had a 300sd and 300e and side by side and in daily driving preferred > the performance of the sd. If you have any hills, the 617 pulls > better. For the same peformance the 103 is shifting more often to get > into a powerband that isn't that great to begin with- and this is in a > 124 chassis car. The 126 is heavier, but not by a huge amount. Interesting. I LOVE the performance of my 300SD, and never expected to, given the numbers it posts. It's not neck-snapping, but it's very responsive and with the wide torque band and wide-ratio transmission, acceleration feels virtually linear right up to top speed. It seems to have just about as much punch at 80 as it does at 30. My Chevy Caprice with a 305 4V, K&N intake and at least 40 more hp and about the same vehicle weight was completely gutless by comparison, especially on the highway. 85 was all it would do on the flat, secondaries howling, and it downshifted for the slightest grade. Speeding up in overdrive was virtually impossible, and even kicked down, it seemed to make more noise than power. Most annoying. I rarely bother to kick down the SD, even for two-lane passing, and I LOVE that the kickdown switch is a firm detent, so you're not downshifting unless you choose to. In the caprice, you always felt like you were straining the limits of the engine and driving much harder than you actually were; the SD seems effortless, even wide open. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF
Motorola Spirit 1 model # P23KNC00A3AA F1 -T 154.600grn -R 154.600 grn handie talkie fm radio V10 On 22 Sep 2007, at 17:41, OK Don wrote: > Any other numbers there to help us? Model number, frequency, etc.? > > On 9/22/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands and I am >> trying to learn something about them. Did fast and dirty web search >> and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with >> knowledge that will enlighten me. Radio buffs, respond >> >> over >> >> out > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF
Motorola Spirit 1 model # P23KNC00A3AA F1 -T 154.600grn -R 154.600 grn handie talkie fm radio V10 On 22 Sep 2007, at 17:41, OK Don wrote: > Any other numbers there to help us? Model number, frequency, etc.? > > On 9/22/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I had a pair of Motorola Spirit 1 radios fall into my hands and I am >> trying to learn something about them. Did fast and dirty web search >> and got bupkiss, so think there may be more brain power here with >> knowledge that will enlighten me. Radio buffs, respond >> >> over >> >> out > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunroof quit
> Do NOT try to re-tap the threads. Get a junker assembly. I can't recall ever seeing the sunroof motor gone in the U-Pull yard. I don't think they fail often so nobody ever takes them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
