Re: [MBZ] Vega Blocks
on 9/29/07 23:38, EDWARD DENNIS at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > Can you tell me why the Diesel Smart is in Canada but not the States?? > Thanks > Ed in Chicago (Go WS; Cubs suck) Sorry no idea, I'm lukewarm on the Smart myself so I have never really paid much attention to it. I'm still miffed at DBz for not bringing in the A-Class (in 2004 they promised it for the Canuck market in 2007 IIRC, then backed out, reason why depends on who you ask). We have the B-Class here in Canada, however. You can drive one away for the low $30s and they had a quite attractive promo on for a while in August with very low rates and a sticker discount I think. I looked at one at the dealer, nice package, impressive seating position and well thought out dash. Did not ask for a test drive. Front-wheel drive with the same sandwich technology as the A. -- "Mac" Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vega
Knew a guy who drove a Cosworth Vega back in the day. Engine made a helluva racket. Of course he also owned a 1929 Fleet. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Bearings!
> Any comments? Suggestions? Help? Help! Get some more big sockets! Harbor Freight makes a nice set of 3/4" drive seal presses that periodically go on sale. As a bonus, you can even use them to bar over the engine, and remove fuel tank senders. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] pricey parts
<> That would be unquestionably a 600. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The evil broken lug nut is OUT, rear, 300 SDL
Hi, I use a white marine wheel bearing grease on the threads foe 20 years and proper torque. Ed in Chicago (Salt way too heavy) Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What you have just experienced is why Mercedes issued a TSB in the '90s requiring that the extended length lugs (greater than 80 mm total length) used on 107/126 models be replaced with "short" lugs (50-62 mm) like those used on later 124/201s. Few shops except dealers (and hardly all of them) ever informed their customers that this was a serious problem. For 30+ years I have wiped the threads of the lugs with paraffin EVERY time they were loosened and tightened. That has virtually eliminated corrosion caused thread seizure. Whenever a shop tightens the lugs as soon as I get home I loosen them, apply paraffin, and re-tighten to spec. DO NOT ALLOW THE PARAFFIN TO TOUCH EITHER THE LUG OR WHEEL SEAT. Haven't had a lug seize since I started using this technique. A long extension is MUCH more likely to shear the lug that a rattle gun. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
It really does work and simple as can be. The issue I am coming upon is the lack of adequate final coat and rust is returning. clay On 28 Sep 2007, at 21:13, Jim Cathey wrote: > I've finally put up a picture of the grille de-rusting > in mid-progress. The electric rust removal trick really > works, and is dirt cheap. (My favorite!) The picture > is of the inside of the grille, not the shiny show side. > > http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/SL2/grillerust.jpg > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
Hi, What is the url for the student Office and do you know if it includes Publisher? Thanks Ed in Chicago (2 Girls in IIT and Vandercook) LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You wrote > Was doing some house cleaning and rereading our emails - your comment above made me think about the following - In the 80's when all this was in the infancy, MS took the lead and created Office with Lotus 1-2-3 hot on its heals. But with Lotus mostly a spreadsheet it soon fell behind. Having a Suite that is able to communicate will all the other components was critical in this period of rapid growth of such a new industry. Without that ability Office would not have become a market leader and someone else would have stepped up to do what was needed. Ok, I;m done - now to turn off the puter and relax - or play a game. ;-) Ya'll have a nice Weekend - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007 > It seems than at Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:28:18 -0400, LarryT wrote: > >> Hi Luther, >> When you say OpenSource are you referring to Abiword? It's an OpenSource >> word processor but perhaps OpenSource is a generic term? > > Open source, free software, other similar terms are used to > describe the type of license that software is released under. > > Open*Office* is a particular product. In it is a word > processor that is competition to Abiword. Abiword is smaller, > but is a word processor only, while OpenOffice also has > spreadsheet, drawing, presentation (like PowerPoint TM), paint, > and database. If you have Abiword and then add Gnumeric for > spreadsheet, Inkscape for draw, the GIMP for paint, and any > number of database choices you can do much of what OpenOffice > does - except OpenOffice - like MS Office - allows a text > document to have a spreadsheet or draw item in it, etc. > > In many respects, I think the stand-alone products are better - > but they don't integrate with each other which can be a big deal. > > -- Philip, > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: > 9/18/2007 11:53 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vega Blocks
Hi, Can you tell me why the Diesel Smart is in Canada but not the States?? Thanks Ed in Chicago (Go WS; Cubs suck) Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 9/29/07 19:58, archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Any London taxis running around up there? Always wondered what kind of > mileage they got. > Gerry Actually yes they are using them as handicap cabs in Ottawa. The most current link to a story on it won't work... this one was written before the 12 cars went into service: http://www.motor-cross.ca/britishiconinottawa.html The importer is Stateside. No idea on the fuel mileage but I don't think it's very high. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:37:37 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I exposed the components over by the trim pot, and found what I > expected. Unfortunately I cracked the glass diode! Probably no way to > tell what it was now. Oops. > They're power darlingtons, with clamping diode. (Last I was taught, > it's not too kosher to parallel BJT's without small emitter degradation > resistors. That's one of the reasons I assumed they were FET's.) You are correct. Paralleling BJTs is a bad idea. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wheel Bearings!
Well, I started the process to put my new dial indicator to use and jacked up the front of the car and removed both wheels. I attacked the driver's side wheel first. I took the brake caliper off, hung it by a piece of coathanger wire, and removed the hub and disk. With a fair amount of difficulty, I got the old grease seal off and removed the bearings. After much cleaning later (alcohol doesn't cut grease very well, but it's the only solvent I have), I weighed out some of the green Mercedes grease into both new grease caps (15 grams each) and then weighed out 50 grams into two sandwich bags for the two sets of bearings and hubs. The process of forcing the new grease into the bearings was a very gooey mess, going not quite as well as I had hoped, but it got done adequately. I then proceeded to get my largest socket and tap the seal into place. Unfortunately, my largest socket wasn't quite large enough and I pushed one lip of the seal down a noticable amount. After surveying the situation, I decided to take that one out (and make an overnight shipment from Rusty necessary). After much struggle again, I got the seal out. The second time, I knew I had to do something differently. I went next door and looked at my neighbor's socket collection. Worse than mine. Back home, I spied the old water pump/fan pulley from the 240D motor. The mounting flange of the pulley is much larger in diameter than the seal and thus would not cause the problem I had earlier. So, I proceeded with the pulley's face resting on the seal and the large socket resting on the pulley's mounting surface. I thought I had done a good job. I was wrong. One side of the seal was pressed down, but not as much as the last time. So, how good is good enough? I'll be calling Rusty early Monday for a set of new seals (maybe two), so I can replace this one, too (fortunately the tube of grease has a little extra grease in it so greasing the lips of successive new seals won't short the hub of grease). Any comments? Suggestions? Help? Help! I'll send a picture on a reply to this email (if I attach it to this email, it will be held up for Kaleb's approval). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost Wages
Ditto. There is a feller that has a home-made looking Vega El Camino looking thing in his mini boneyard...among the donkeys and peacocks. Strange Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 7:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost Vegas No reason to post, just couldn't pass up on the subject line. I never had a Vega to lose. Friend of mine had one, liked to do the boy racer thing. That was awhile ago. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost Vegas
No reason to post, just couldn't pass up on the subject line. I never had a Vega to lose. Friend of mine had one, liked to do the boy racer thing. That was awhile ago. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
Yesterday I spent some 'quality time' with the scanner, the digital camera, and Illustrator. I'm trying to recreate 'artwork' representing the regulator's circuit board. This will aid me in not missing anything when creating the schematic. It's going slowly, but I believe the end results will be adequate to the task. Today it was more Illustrator. I've got the rest of the components and tracing done, but there's two obscuring chunks of potting left. I think I've figured out what components are underneath one, but the other is a bit more mysterious. There are five leads left unaccounted for, and of course most basic components have only two. The pattern doesn't really allow for a three-lead component like a transistor. I'm going to have to do some more digging! The large bipolar transistor has what appears to be "T2142" on it, and another "142" in smaller print, and an "L". I saw an ad on Craig's List for a substantially similar generator, brand new, but with a few more bolt-on features like a small transfer switch and a few more watts. $1900! Because it was easy to do I popped the potting off the bottom of the other (overload?) board. It's got a 14-pin IC on it. I'm not going to try to unpot the components. It's probably not broken, nor is it critical to generation. Maybe later, if it gives me trouble. The iron had warmed up while I did the overload board's trace-side potting removal, so I then removed the regulator's two electrolytic capacitors and the large bipolar transistor. These exposed the MOV component label (it's an 82 V unit) and the remaining potting blocks. I surfed for the big transistor, and found that there is a Chinese T2142 "Dynamo Transistor", whatever _that_ is. No other information on it, yet. The multimeter indicates that it's more complicated than a basic transistor. I exposed the components over by the trim pot, and found what I expected. Unfortunately I cracked the glass diode! Probably no way to tell what it was now. Zener? 1N914? Capacitor, even? I pulled one of the green-dipped mylar capacitors and measured .0012 nF on the bridge. That's down in the noise. I exposed the parts under the other potting blob and found another transistor! OK, that explains the pin count. Marked "A42" and "B331". MPS-A42? That's a high-voltage level translator, rather old in fact. The PCB hole pattern was not customary, but so what. The remaining component was a resistor, as expected. The big transistors were labeled MJ10012, which is not a FET at all! They're power darlingtons, with clamping diode. (Last I was taught, it's not too kosher to parallel BJT's without small emitter degradation resistors. That's one of the reasons I assumed they were FET's.) If these are BJT's, they may be dead. I measure a dead short between C and E. This board is starting to appear to have been thoroughly fried, and half of what didn't suicide has now been killed by me. Sigh. Well, it didn't work before I started messing with it, either! Anyway, so far the schematic I have prepared contains only the layout and the Bill of Materials. While I have a penciled schematic, I must rearrange it a few times to put into intelligible form. There's an art to good schematic design, after all...and I'm no artist. http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset3/regulator.pdf -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Squashed 300D pics
on 9/29/07 15:24, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Funny how, in the last 2-3 years, the US dollar has given up three > decades worth of gains against the Loonie. When I bought Kaleb's w126 from Todd (longish story), I paid $1200 USD. The money order I sent to Todd cost me $1849 CDN. That was 2002. I wish I was buying cars now. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vega Blocks
> on 9/29/07 19:58, archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Any London taxis running around up there? Always wondered what kind of >> mileage they got. >> Gerry > > Actually yes they are using them as handicap cabs in Ottawa. The most > current link to a story on it won't work... this one was written before > the > 12 cars went into service: > http://www.motor-cross.ca/britishiconinottawa.html > The importer is Stateside. No idea on the fuel mileage but I don't think > it's very high. > Mac Interesting article; thanks. A local town has a London double decker bus which was being restored last I heard. It started out as a private venture which flopped; it was donated to the city IIRC; and then local retirees went to work restoring it gratis. They plan to use it as a tourist attraction, for sightseeing, or whatever. Quite a few retired Brits, Scots, and Irish around here (they have their own clubs); but not many Canadians that I know of. Someone had an old Rolls Royce for sale last year for about $10,000. This dinky little backwoods county is a strange place for such a car. There was also a 1960s(?) model MB limousine at a local restorers shop a few years ago. When the owner was quoted a price of $2300 for a hydraulic window opener for the drivers door, he decided to sell it. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vegas
>> Could have gotten lots more life out of it >> with a valve job and a clutch, but being a Vega, it wasn't worth the >> investment. > > My cousin became the local Vega rescue lodge, without even trying. He > purchased one for $500 (I am guessing it was 8 years old at the time), > literally little old man drove it to church, original paint still > shiny. > > A week later the man asked cuz if he thought the car was worth what > he paid, > cuz replied (politely) well no, Vegas are actually worth nothing > for resale. > So, so cuz's astonishment, the PO gave him back $400. > > Turns out the PO knew other Vega owners. Within a month two more > appeared as > donations in his driveway. He drove off those cars, with some input > from the > odd $50 parts car, for years. I had two of 'em--one I bought for $250, a '75 hatch with a 4-speed and a 2v carb. Not a bad car, especially--OK performance, 32 mpg, OK handling, cheap as dirt to maintain. That one rusted out, of course. Next one was the hi-mile '73 sedan. It was a real stripper. 3 speed stick, 1v carb, the passenger's seat was bolted to the floor--no adjustment at all! It was a southern car with a pristine body. Bought that for $400, drove it 30 k miles, sold it for $125 with the bad clutch and valves. That one had very little to recommend it, except for being the absolute cheapest transportation option available at the time. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1996 E300D OM606.912 delivery valve diesel leak
Marshall, thanks for clearing that up. I hope Vik had either finshed the job before my message, or got Joe's and yours before doing the job. I gold starred your's and Joe's messages so I'll have the straight skinny next time. Meanwhile there are some very tight delivery valves on my old SDL. Harry On 9/29/07, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Harry Watkins wrote: > > I recently replaced the delivery valves o-rings, copper seals and > springs on > > an 86 300 SDL and followed this torque procedure; go to 25 ft lbs and > loosen > > twice, the third and final torque was 30 ft lbs. IIRC that was > Marshall's > > instruction from long ago. I was not sure if they should be done one at > a > > time or not, but that's what I did. Its been over a month and all is > well > > so far. > > > > Please keep the area clean, clean, clean. > > Woe! The Mercedes specs are in Nm, not lb-ft. Multiply Nm by 0.74 to > convert from Nm to lb-ft. The delivery valves (or any part attached to > the pump) must NOT be overtorqued or unevenly torqued. If they are > stressed, the pump may distort or even crack (that can ruin your day). > > Tighten to 30Nm (22.2 lb-ft) and release. Repeat. Tighten to 30 Nm and > then an additional 5 Nm (3.7 lb-ft). That gives a final value of 25.9. > Even when properly torqued, the pump housing can occasionally still > distort. That will usually cause the pump to make a clattering sound and > the engine will idle roughly. To cure this, loosen the fuel lines one at > a time until you discover which one is causing the roughness and > re-torque that one. > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth Ph.D. > Ass't Prof. (ret.) > Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Squashed 300D pics
Just how hard were you struck? Not enough to kill you, but the damage to the exterior seems a bit minor. Get a lawyer just in case there is huge internal injuries. The car is a total and I would expect to see it at the PnP. Not like those small cars where the inside would be soaked in blood and body parts though. clay On 27 Sep 2007, at 14:35, Peter Frederick wrote: > Here's the pics of my car. I lightened one to show the interior as > best as possible, I didn't take them the insurance adjuster did. > > You can see the imprint of the van bumper on the door. > > The other three doors open. > > Peter > > Peter > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: smash.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 68519 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ > attachments/20070927/9ca2a1c3/attachment.jpg > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2111e.JPG > Type: image/jpg > Size: 74744 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ > attachments/20070927/9ca2a1c3/attachment-0001.jpg > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2111f.JPG > Type: image/jpg > Size: 70902 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ > attachments/20070927/9ca2a1c3/attachment-0002.jpg > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vega Blocks
on 9/29/07 19:58, archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Any London taxis running around up there? Always wondered what kind of > mileage they got. > Gerry Actually yes they are using them as handicap cabs in Ottawa. The most current link to a story on it won't work... this one was written before the 12 cars went into service: http://www.motor-cross.ca/britishiconinottawa.html The importer is Stateside. No idea on the fuel mileage but I don't think it's very high. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1996 E300D OM606.912 delivery valve diesel leak
Harry Watkins wrote: > I recently replaced the delivery valves o-rings, copper seals and springs on > an 86 300 SDL and followed this torque procedure; go to 25 ft lbs and loosen > twice, the third and final torque was 30 ft lbs. IIRC that was Marshall's > instruction from long ago. I was not sure if they should be done one at a > time or not, but that's what I did. Its been over a month and all is well > so far. > > Please keep the area clean, clean, clean. Woe! The Mercedes specs are in Nm, not lb-ft. Multiply Nm by 0.74 to convert from Nm to lb-ft. The delivery valves (or any part attached to the pump) must NOT be overtorqued or unevenly torqued. If they are stressed, the pump may distort or even crack (that can ruin your day). Tighten to 30Nm (22.2 lb-ft) and release. Repeat. Tighten to 30 Nm and then an additional 5 Nm (3.7 lb-ft). That gives a final value of 25.9. Even when properly torqued, the pump housing can occasionally still distort. That will usually cause the pump to make a clattering sound and the engine will idle roughly. To cure this, loosen the fuel lines one at a time until you discover which one is causing the roughness and re-torque that one. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vega Blocks
> on 9/28/07 23:21, Dan Weeks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Could have gotten lots more life out of it >> with a valve job and a clutch, but being a Vega, it wasn't worth the >> investment. > My cousin became the local Vega rescue lodge, without even trying. He > purchased one for $500 (I am guessing it was 8 years old at the time), > literally little old man drove it to church, original paint still shiny. > A week later the man asked cuz if he thought the car was worth what he > paid, > cuz replied (politely) well no, Vegas are actually worth nothing for > resale. > So, so cuz's astonishment, the PO gave him back $400. > Turns out the PO knew other Vega owners. Within a month two more appeared > as > donations in his driveway. He drove off those cars, with some input from > the > odd $50 parts car, for years. > But his family were a bit on the fringe where cars were concerned, they > had > a series of Brit oddities (Standard, two Austin 1100s, an Austin America, > etc.) when I was growing up. Hell I should talk, I learned to drive on a > WOLSELEY (aka Austin Princess), big old Brit tank with the same straight > six > engine as the Healey. > Mac --- Any London taxis running around up there? Always wondered what kind of mileage they got. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The evil broken lug nut is OUT, rear, 300 SDL
What you have just experienced is why Mercedes issued a TSB in the '90s requiring that the extended length lugs (greater than 80 mm total length) used on 107/126 models be replaced with "short" lugs (50-62 mm) like those used on later 124/201s. Few shops except dealers (and hardly all of them) ever informed their customers that this was a serious problem. For 30+ years I have wiped the threads of the lugs with paraffin EVERY time they were loosened and tightened. That has virtually eliminated corrosion caused thread seizure. Whenever a shop tightens the lugs as soon as I get home I loosen them, apply paraffin, and re-tighten to spec. DO NOT ALLOW THE PARAFFIN TO TOUCH EITHER THE LUG OR WHEEL SEAT. Haven't had a lug seize since I started using this technique. A long extension is MUCH more likely to shear the lug that a rattle gun. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
You wrote <> Was doing some house cleaning and rereading our emails - your comment above made me think about the following - In the 80's when all this was in the infancy, MS took the lead and created Office with Lotus 1-2-3 hot on its heals. But with Lotus mostly a spreadsheet it soon fell behind. Having a Suite that is able to communicate will all the other components was critical in this period of rapid growth of such a new industry. Without that ability Office would not have become a market leader and someone else would have stepped up to do what was needed. Ok, I;m done - now to turn off the puter and relax - or play a game. ;-) Ya'll have a nice Weekend - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007 > It seems than at Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:28:18 -0400, LarryT wrote: > >> Hi Luther, >> When you say OpenSource are you referring to Abiword? It's an OpenSource >> word processor but perhaps OpenSource is a generic term? > > Open source, free software, other similar terms are used to > describe the type of license that software is released under. > > Open*Office* is a particular product. In it is a word > processor that is competition to Abiword. Abiword is smaller, > but is a word processor only, while OpenOffice also has > spreadsheet, drawing, presentation (like PowerPoint TM), paint, > and database. If you have Abiword and then add Gnumeric for > spreadsheet, Inkscape for draw, the GIMP for paint, and any > number of database choices you can do much of what OpenOffice > does - except OpenOffice - like MS Office - allows a text > document to have a spreadsheet or draw item in it, etc. > > In many respects, I think the stand-alone products are better - > but they don't integrate with each other which can be a big deal. > > -- Philip, > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: > 9/18/2007 11:53 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] big thank you to list and Rusty's assistant; engine overheating etc
No, the fact that you wash them turned him off. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:12 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] big thank you to list and Rusty's assistant;engine overheating etc Hmm, Gary always passes me off like some hot potato or something Maybe I wash my undies with the wrong soap or something. -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:27:03 -0500 From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] big thank you to list and Rusty's assistant; engine overheating etc To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I always knew that Rusty had an assistant but I always assumed it was Gary. After all, someone had to pick up Rusty's dry cleaning, wash/wax his car, etc. Tom does that now? It was always fun to call BuyMBParts and get Gary. He'd spend a half hour talking to you and almost forget to take your order. - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Curt Raymond wrote: > *SIGH* > The coolant is there for a reason you take it away and bad things happen. > Try overheating your Honda, thats likely got an all aluminum ENGINE. You'll > not only crack the head but ruin the block. > You want things light you use aluminum. You want heavier duty you pay by > burning more fuel. Its a pretty simple exchange in most cases. > > My '85 190D 2.2l has the same 72hp that my '83 240D had. The 190D weighs like > 600# less and it shows in top speed, acceleration and fuel economy... The OM601 engine in your 190D is NOT remotely the same OM616 engine in a 240D. The former is about 20% more efficient, gets almost 25% better economy, starts without the block heater at 10-20 colder temperatures. I expect the only common parts for the two engines are the injectors, glow lugs and radiator cap! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] overheating engines
Zoltan Finks wrote: > Okay, good to get into this talk about coolant and head gaskets. > > Let me ask this: One thing I noticed the day I bought the car is that > just a few moments after parking the car, the top radiator hose was > not hard. If the coolant is heated and the cooling system is sealed, then there will be more pressure in the system when the coolant is hot than when it is cold. 201 and 124 coolant reservoirs are notorious for cracking so there will be NO pressure whether hot or cold. New reservoirs are not terribly expensive (but more so than they used to be). If the cap has failed there may also be little or no pressure. Different Mercedes models built during the 1980s had 1.0, 1.2 and 1.4 bar pressure caps. Starting in the '90s Mercedes now supplies only 1.4 bar caps for all models and all years. The rubber parts of caps routinely fail in the 15-20 year time frame even in well maintained cars. > > And when you squeeze it (still does the same thing today) you hear > some sort of ticking noises from down in the engine somewhere. Could be the chatter of the thermostat vents. No idea what that means in your engine (by the way what year, engine and chassis are you describing - such information really is the only courteous way to engage in an extended discussion). Coolant being pushed thru the cooling passages usually makes a gurgling sound. > Do these conditions ring a bell with anyone? I'm used to a top > radiator hose being hard after shutting the engine off, as there's > pressure in the system. > > Why don't we start three posts: one for the impatient (*sigh*), and > one for those looking to make a snappy joke, and one for those who are > open to thoughtful questions. I have NO idea what that last sentence means. Was it a question? Isn't it still obligatory to use a question mark to end a question? Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Sprinter
> Let me start out by saying that it can't tow a 4000 pound boat! On the > moderate Sylvan hill heading out toward Hillsboro, it couldn't even > maintain > 50MPH with 3 passengers in it. It dropped steadily to about 40MPH by > the I do not think of the hill to the West of Portland as moderate! > time we reached the top. I took it into the dealer and traded it off > on > another Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins pickup. There's a reason that all those grunting towing ads are for pickup trucks. They put hellacious motors in them. I'd love a Sprinter, I think, but no way it's gonna out-tow my Dodge. And mine's a feeb compared to what they're making nowadays. The Sprinter ought to be moderately good at towing, and have very good fuel economy doing so. And have lots of interior space. I think you probably got exactly what you paid for, but it appears that that is not what you actually needed. It is indeed going to cost you! That dealership driveway is nice, wide and lovely. Very inviting. The last 50 feet or so are soundproofed as you approach the rotating knives... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1996 E300D OM606.912 delivery valve diesel leak
That's the procedure I used on both my 602 and 603 engines - I did all the valves while I was there - removed the intake manifold first - and replaced the plastic clips that secure the injection lines while you're there. 30 NM = 22 Lb-ft, and 35 NM = 26 Lb-ft. On 9/29/07, Joe Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Read the W124 fsm, 07.1-8627.pdf. 30 Nm, release; 30 Nm, release; 30 > + 5 Nm. Control is different in your OM606 but I'm assuming that the > fuel circuitry of the pump is essentially identical to that in the > W124 E300D. > > -j -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Sprinter
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:39:33 -0700 "Kevin Kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let me start out by saying that it can't tow a 4000 pound boat! On the > moderate Sylvan hill heading out toward Hillsboro, it couldn't even > maintain 50MPH with 3 passengers in it. It dropped steadily to about > 40MPH by the time we reached the top. I took it into the dealer and > traded it off on another Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins pickup. That's too bad! I, for one, was rooting for the Sprinter. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '85 190D Glowplugs
Symptom: Car starts easy but stumbles a bit for the first 10 seconds or so, then evens out and runs fine. Worse when its cold, better with the block heater. Folks on here said to replace glowplugs. Today I've proven you can replace all 4 without removing anything. It helps alot to be double jointed and have small hands. You'll also need 2 socket ujoints and a variety of wobble extensions. Worst part is getting the wire nut back onto #3. I dropped it, then dropped a replacement. Tried using the one from #4 and dropped THAT. Both #3 and #4 now have replacement nuts from the hardware store that were a PITA to get on because they're a different shape than the original. The originals are designed to stay clipped to the wiring harness while you replace the plugs. On my car 1 out of 4 actually did that. Anyway, car didn't seem to stumble at all when I test started it but I won't really know until tomorrow morning when its cooler out. -Curt - Don't let your dream ride pass you by.Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 with 3-speed auto?i stand corrected
In a message dated 9/29/2007 12:07:13 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Every 108/4.5 I have ever seen and owned had a 3 speed tranny Darrel, You are correct, Suh! I was late for breakfast and didn't read column II, listing US versions with the 3 speed and a 3.23 rear gear. I stand corrected and this includes the 107 models after 1972. Both the 3 speed and the 4 speed autos are 1 to1 in top gear. Engine speed for the 108 E45 with the US gears is listed at 2740 RPM at 62.5 MPH, that is not too bad! That with the smallish 185-14 tires Going to 205s would slow the engine some. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The Sprinter
Let me start out by saying that it can't tow a 4000 pound boat! On the moderate Sylvan hill heading out toward Hillsboro, it couldn't even maintain 50MPH with 3 passengers in it. It dropped steadily to about 40MPH by the time we reached the top. I took it into the dealer and traded it off on another Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins pickup. i'll admit that buying the Sprinter was a stupid move which I'll be paying for for years to come!! The few times we needed seating for 10 didn't justify having it around since it couldn't tow much, and since i now had another round of depreciation, well, you know the story. My former '06 2WD pickup was still on the lot, but it would have cost me only $125 less than buying a new 4WD model. I decided to stay with the Sprinter-sized payment and sprung for the new one. I went for the short box this time around for better maneuverability, but the option list is identical to my '06 SLT model. It does have the insanely powerful 6.7L Cummins engine coupled to a 6spd auto tranny which I can't wayt to test out to muscle the travel trailer and boat around. It also uses the Mercedes-Benz Bluetec technology with no "diesel smell" at the tailpipe. Hopefully, it will be an improvement on the 5.9 rather than a step backward like the 6.0 and 6.4L powerstrokes. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD unnamed ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Winter Mobil 1 for OM617 - what grade?
I ran 15w50 EP in my 190D all last winter. We hit -20F a few days each winter and -10F for maybe a week. Never had any problems. Of course I ran the block heater 3 hours every morning before I went to work (christmas tree timer) so that helped alot. I'm running 5w40 now, I ran both in my 240D and have been consistantly surprised because it SEEMS like the 5w40 leaks a bit less. My 240D leaked ALOT so it was very noticable. Unfortunately for me the 5w40 is not always available in any reasonable quantity. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:45:53 -0400 From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Winter Mobil 1 for OM617 - what grade? To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 5W40 (aka Delvac One) would probably be ideal. I imagine 15W50 Mobil One would do fine too, surely down to -20C and probably down to -20F. You may want a block heater no matter what oil you use. 617s are not as easy to start cold as 602s or 603s. - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's
Good point! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reference Table for MB's > Larry - the beauty is that it's SaaS - all on the web. You do the > setup work there, we can all contribute, and everyone can view the > results. > > On 9/28/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thanks Don - >> It does look promising - I've struggled with MS Access for years - even >> with >> several training sessions I can barely make it do what I to do - >> >> I'll download Zoho and take a look -- > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1036 - Release Date: > 9/28/2007 3:40 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Squashed 300D pics
Steve MacSween wrote: > > > And now I don't have to qualify the dollar amount to US anymore ;-) Around 1970, the family always vacationed around Eliot Lake (the Uranium Capital of the World!). I can remember one year I got three cents change when I'd make a dollar purchase with a US dollar, then the next year I'd have to kick in an extra four cents, but we had relative parity those days. Funny how, in the last 2-3 years, the US dollar has given up three decades worth of gains against the Loonie. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 with 3-speed auto?
Every 108/4.5 I have ever seen and owned had a 3 speed tranny... Darrell W. Sigmon ~~ - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 with 3-speed auto? > > In a message dated 9/29/2007 1:10:28 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Everything I'm finding online (including Rusty's online catalogue) tells > me > that the W108 4.5L models had a 722.000 (W3A 040) transmission, i.e. > three-speed. It was the 2.8L and the 3.5L cars that had four-speed > trannies. This > information is consistent with the feel of the two cars I drove, both of > which > seemed to rev very high for the driving speed. > > Once again, I can't help wondering if putting in a 4-speed from a later > car > might not be a wise idea (if one were doing a rebuild anyway i.e. not > just > for the sake of it), and whether the high fuel consumption on these cars > isn't > in part due to the gearing. With that much horsepower, there's no reason > why > it should be turning 3000rpm at only 60mph. > > Are there any 4.5 owners out there who can chime in on this? > > > > D. > > Not an owner, but the Nitske bible shows that all of the automatics of > that > era were 4 speeds, (my 63 300SE had a 4 speed automatic) with a one to one > ratio 4th gear, no overdrive automatics were used in that era. The only > 3 > speed automatics were used behind the 6.9 engine in the late 70s, and > some late > 450SELs, and that also was a one to one 3rd gear. > > Slowing the engine down would best be accomplished by changing the rear > differential ratio. A lot of 4.5s hat 4.09 or 3.92 to 1 rear axles. You > could > probably find a 3.69 or a 3.07 that would fit without too much trouble. > The > 6.9s came with a 2.65 to 1 axle assy as did some US version 1980 450 > SELs. > Most 450SEs, SELs were fitted with 3.07 which would really be ideal for a > good > running 4.5. A Hollander interchange manual would possibly display the > various years that each axle would fit. > > I bet a complete axle to axle 3.07 or 2.65 could be had for cheap but how > much are you willing to spend to make it work? I have a 2.88 center out > an 87 > 300SDL that I would sell for $250, for an example. It has flanges on the > axle outputs so could possibly be adapted fairly easy. > > Regards, > > Jim Friesen > Phoenix AZ > 79 300SD, 264 K miles > 98 ML 320, 152 K miles > > > > ** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vega Blocks
on 9/28/07 23:21, Dan Weeks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Could have gotten lots more life out of it > with a valve job and a clutch, but being a Vega, it wasn't worth the > investment. My cousin became the local Vega rescue lodge, without even trying. He purchased one for $500 (I am guessing it was 8 years old at the time), literally little old man drove it to church, original paint still shiny. A week later the man asked cuz if he thought the car was worth what he paid, cuz replied (politely) well no, Vegas are actually worth nothing for resale. So, so cuz's astonishment, the PO gave him back $400. Turns out the PO knew other Vega owners. Within a month two more appeared as donations in his driveway. He drove off those cars, with some input from the odd $50 parts car, for years. But his family were a bit on the fringe where cars were concerned, they had a series of Brit oddities (Standard, two Austin 1100s, an Austin America, etc.) when I was growing up. Hell I should talk, I learned to drive on a WOLSELEY (aka Austin Princess), big old Brit tank with the same straight six engine as the Healey. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Squashed 300D pics
on 9/29/07 14:29, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'd love to have Peter's wreck, along with a 124 coupe with slipping tranny > and worn out valve guides. I'd send Peter's IP to the crazy Finns while > assembling his drivetrain in the coupe chassis. Add one large variable > turbo, an intercooler, and custom manifolds and you'd have the finest > (and fastest) $5,000 Benz in the land. O Even rusty 124 coupes fetch silly money around here, so unfortunately that would probably be an $8k Benz when it was done. And now I don't have to qualify the dollar amount to US anymore ;-) Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Squashed 300D pics
My point Ed -- if you did do it right, it would cost more than the car is worth, hell these days just the paint required is gonna cost enough. Were it a 600 Grand or something, yeah, I might insist, but not a W124 chassis. Engine and driveline MAY be good, but the engine was running at the time and ran quite a while blowing steam, so it may be junk too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Squashed 300D pics
I'd love to have Peter's wreck, along with a 124 coupe with slipping tranny and worn out valve guides. I'd send Peter's IP to the crazy Finns while assembling his drivetrain in the coupe chassis. Add one large variable turbo, an intercooler, and custom manifolds and you'd have the finest (and fastest) $5,000 Benz in the land. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vega Blocks
My brand new 74 Vega had holes through the tops of both front fenders within 18 months of purchase. GM did give me new fenders. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vega Blocks You must live in a rust free area -- the usual cause of death in the later ones was disintegration -- I know two people who had the body fail while driving! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Squashed 300D pics
Hi, I said make it a doner car. Just for the cost to do the repair you can bring a high milage dead engine gas car to the wvo/diesel world. All of the rebuilt cars I have touched EXCEED the original disign in strengh and protection. I also have helped on Trans Am race cars and recently M3 Grand American Cup race cars. Rebuilt does not mean junk. Good work comes from experiance and study. Ed in Chicago Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah, I suppose you could, if you wanted to replace the firewall, everything in the dash, the rocker on the left side, left inner fender, front frame, and cut out the roof and front door frame and weld in new. If you mean you can make it LOOK the same, sure, but unless you replace the front clip and that side of the windshield frame, it's only yanked back out straight, not repaired in my book. Everything in the dash is bent, including all the structural members, all the way to the passenger door, and I'd bet the A pillar ain't straight on that side anymore, either. I won't drive a car with the front pillar straightened -- it will have less than half the original strength and no way am I gonna wait to find out when the next idiot runs a traffic light. I also will not accept a car with the front frame straightend (it's bent, if you didn't notice) -- no way it will ever stay that way, to do it right it will have to be cut off and a new front end welded on. Peter On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:46 PM, EDWARD DENNIS wrote: > Hi > I am 61 and a Paint and Body tech ASE master certified. > Yes it is repairable. > No I say do what my friend Ben did: buy a 92 C body and transplant > the engine and Trans. > Ben took his out of a 190d 2.5 turbo (87') and installed them in a > junk yard 92' C body. A great transplant. He is asking $5500.00 for it > Blk/Blk. A fast driver. > Ed in Chicago > > Peter Frederick wrote: > Here's the pics of my car. I lightened one to show the interior as > best as possible, I didn't take them the insurance adjuster did. > > You can see the imprint of the van bumper on the door. > > The other three doors open. > > Peter > > Peter > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: smash.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 68519 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/ > 20070927/9ca2a1c3/attachment.jpg > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2111e.JPG > Type: image/jpg > Size: 74744 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/ > 20070927/9ca2a1c3/attachment-0001.jpg > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2111f.JPG > Type: image/jpg > Size: 70902 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/ > 20070927/9ca2a1c3/attachment-0002.jpg > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 with 3-speed auto?
Cars with a cast iron M117 4.5L always had a three speed. This includes all W107 and W116 chassis cars. The four speed was used on aluminum block M117s (with torque conveter) -- all previous cars and engines used a four speed with fluid coupling (3.5L M116 cast iron, M100, all sixes, and all diesel) until 1975 when the 300D came with a four speed with torque converter. W108 rear ends will not interchange with ANY later chassis types, they are swing axle design, all later ones are full independent. I don't know if the actual gears interchange, but I wouldn't do that myself. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vega Blocks
You must live in a rust free area -- the usual cause of death in the later ones was disintegration -- I know two people who had the body fail while driving! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 with 3-speed auto?
In a message dated 9/29/2007 1:10:28 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything I'm finding online (including Rusty's online catalogue) tells me that the W108 4.5L models had a 722.000 (W3A 040) transmission, i.e. three-speed. It was the 2.8L and the 3.5L cars that had four-speed trannies. This information is consistent with the feel of the two cars I drove, both of which seemed to rev very high for the driving speed. Once again, I can't help wondering if putting in a 4-speed from a later car might not be a wise idea (if one were doing a rebuild anyway i.e. not just for the sake of it), and whether the high fuel consumption on these cars isn't in part due to the gearing. With that much horsepower, there's no reason why it should be turning 3000rpm at only 60mph. Are there any 4.5 owners out there who can chime in on this? D. Not an owner, but the Nitske bible shows that all of the automatics of that era were 4 speeds, (my 63 300SE had a 4 speed automatic) with a one to one ratio 4th gear, no overdrive automatics were used in that era. The only 3 speed automatics were used behind the 6.9 engine in the late 70s, and some late 450SELs, and that also was a one to one 3rd gear. Slowing the engine down would best be accomplished by changing the rear differential ratio. A lot of 4.5s hat 4.09 or 3.92 to 1 rear axles. You could probably find a 3.69 or a 3.07 that would fit without too much trouble. The 6.9s came with a 2.65 to 1 axle assy as did some US version 1980 450 SELs. Most 450SEs, SELs were fitted with 3.07 which would really be ideal for a good running 4.5. A Hollander interchange manual would possibly display the various years that each axle would fit. I bet a complete axle to axle 3.07 or 2.65 could be had for cheap but how much are you willing to spend to make it work? I have a 2.88 center out an 87 300SDL that I would sell for $250, for an example. It has flanges on the axle outputs so could possibly be adapted fairly easy. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vega Blocks
On Sep 29, 2007, at 12:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't think the Vega/Astre had a decent reputation unless they had > Pontiac 151ci Iron Duke engines in them, but it's certainly possible > there was a good aluminum block in later years which failed to > overcome the old block's reputation. I had a '73 Vega with the iron-sleeved aluminum engine. I sold it for $125 bucks in 1987. It had 184k miles on it, used no oil, and still got 32 mpg on the highway (that's at 60, in those days). Had three burned exhaust valves and a slippling clutch, but the rings, bearings, etc. were fine. Could have gotten lots more life out of it with a valve job and a clutch, but being a Vega, it wasn't worth the investment. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need A/C Part For '87 300D
Junkyard time for that one, I think. Changing the evaporator is 16 hrs, by book time. Took me three days. Not hard, particularly, but a large PITA as the entire dash and console has to come out. Better than no AC though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1996 E300D OM606.912 delivery valve diesel leak
Read the W124 fsm, 07.1-8627.pdf. 30 Nm, release; 30 Nm, release; 30 + 5 Nm. Control is different in your OM606 but I'm assuming that the fuel circuitry of the pump is essentially identical to that in the W124 E300D. -j ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 with 3-speed auto?
It's not the tranny, it's the rear end -- 3:23:1 in the 4.5, 3:88 or so (don't remember the exact number) for the sixes, about 3:11 for the 6.3 due to the lower rev limit (5800 vs 6200). The four speed tranny doesn't have a torque converter, it has a fluid coupling with a fixed slip ratio, so the two are functional equivalents. Both are direct drive in high gear, not overdrive. The 6.3 has the four speed, and it croaks pretty often. Yes, the crappy milage is due to the high engine revs. Probably jump up to 18 or so if you put a 6.3 rear end in the 4.5 and lean it out to the 1% CO limit, but you will loose low end punch. Power band is rather high on these engines, they aren't US low speed grunters. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1996 E300D OM606.912 delivery valve diesel leak
I recently replaced the delivery valves o-rings, copper seals and springs on an 86 300 SDL and followed this torque procedure; go to 25 ft lbs and loosen twice, the third and final torque was 30 ft lbs. IIRC that was Marshall's instruction from long ago. I was not sure if they should be done one at a time or not, but that's what I did. Its been over a month and all is well so far. Please keep the area clean, clean, clean. Good luck and I hope Marshall will respond. Harry On 9/29/07, Vik Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear Dr. Booth (or anyone on the list with first hand knowledge of 606.912IPs) > > I will be changing the rubber seals/O ring and copper(?) gasket from the > leaking IP tomorrow > morning. > A friend of mine who works at the local MB dealer will bring the special > socket to loosen the > lines. > My question is this: when closing everything back up, are there torque > specifications, or just > tighten with care to not crush the rubber seal/ O ring . > > My friend has never done this type of repair and he is NOT a diesel > mechanic, so he does NOT have > the answer. Hoping someone from the list will reply by Sat. late morning > pacific time. > > Thanking you all in advance, > > VIK MOMJIAN > > 1996 E300D 197k miles just purchased > 1983 300SD 209k miles (sold) > 1981 300SD 273k miles (for Sales) > 1980 300TD 150k miles (needs some repairs) > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump replacement - M602-962 91 300D 2.5T
Thx Don - really appreciate that --- Have a nice weekend -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Pump replacement - M602-962 91 300D 2.5T >I can't find the vacuum pump torque specs, but did find that for the > timing cover to crankcase, the M6 bolts are 10NM (7.4 Lb-ft.) and the > M8 bolts are 25NM (18.4 Lb-ft). I seem to remember similar values > elsewhere, in the my past reading. > >> >> Also - do you happen to know the torque value? > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1036 - Release Date: > 9/28/2007 3:40 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 with 3-speed auto?
> The problem is that > MBZ never used a four speed overdrive tranny, they were all 1:1 ratio > in top gear, using none of the gearing, just locking the output > shaft to the input shaft, just like the 3 speed. I believe the > 3sp used a real torque converter while the old 4sp used a fluid > coupling, but I have no idea which is more inefficient at cruising > speeds. I don't think there's any measurable difference, a torque converter is just a fluid coupling with a stator in it. It does fluidy magic to essentially buy you an extra first gear at start. I think it also helps give a little extra push on upshifts. I'm pretty sure that was the thinking when DBAG did it, they were guessing that the torquey 4.5 in combination with the magic of the TC meant they could drop from a four-speed to a three-speed tranny. Cheaper? More durable? Who knows why. But they eventually put the four-speed back in, _with_ TC. But none of them have overdrive, so it's only the differential that determines your highway RPM. I believe the diffy in my 190D is wrong, it's for a 2.5 AT, whereas the tranny was from a 2.2 manual. It doesn't have enough horsepower to make fifth gear worth using, and the low gears feel 'tall' when compared to other cars. I never got a definitive answer as to whether I need to take the 2.2's diffy too (I have it, it's in the woods), but the car's conversion just doesn't feel 'done'. My windy point is that if you muck with the differential (as I have effectively done) you can mess up the balance and make things worse in some way. "Gets better mileage, but is unsatisfying to drive" is not such a great trade, either. Especially if it cost you time and/or money to make! Even worse is "Doesn't get better mileage, _and_ is unsatisfying to drive. Now where'd I put those old parts..." I've got a lot of seat time in our now-gone 450SL with a three-speed, and I must say it always drove very well. The gearing and balance was good, no complaints. I've also logged quite a few hours in my 560 SL, and now the 380 SL, both of which have four-speeds. They accelerate a little better when you romp on it, that's about it. (Well, a _lot_ better in the case of the 560.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D did its job
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:13:38 -0500, you wrote: >I was like that last spring, and all I did was trip over my own size 12 >Converse sneakers and fall onto the sidewalk ... with a box of brake pads >separating me and the concrete in the area of my ribs at the point of >impact. > >Yours is a much better story, complete with pics. > >Hurts, doesn't it? To make things worse for me, my allergies were kicking in >and I was constantly sneezing. A sneeze is a relatively minor thing until >you have some broken ribs! > A sneeze is memorable when experianced after open heart surgery! -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need A/C Part For '87 300D
Mitch Haley wrote: > Wray, you're not near Michigan, are you? > If you can find that part in a 1987 190Dt, you can have it. > Mitch. Thanks for the offer, Mitch, but I'm in PA. Regards, Wray ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need A/C Part For '87 300D
Wray Stanley wrote: > Of all the cars I've owned in 50 years of driving, the '87 300D is by > far the best. Short of engine failure or major accident, I plan to keep > it as my primary car. Wray, you're not near Michigan, are you? If you can find that part in a 1987 190Dt, you can have it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need A/C Part For '87 300D
Mitch Haley wrote: > Peter has a parts car, but I think everything inside the dash got pulverized. > I have no idea if my 190D has the same part in it or not. Too bad it's not > in the EPC. > Isn't an evap change in a W124 worth more $$ than the car? > Mitch. Mitch, If you pay to have the work done, you're probably correct. Think the ball park price is $3K. My parts costs are approximately $500. Of all the cars I've owned in 50 years of driving, the '87 300D is by far the best. Short of engine failure or major accident, I plan to keep it as my primary car. Wray ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Need A/C Part For '87 300D
Wray Stanley wrote: > > Gentlemen, > > I am in desperate need of a so far unobtainable part for the A/C system > in my '87 300D. The part is not listed in the EPC or available from the > Dealer. My evaporator replacement is on hold till I can find these parts. Peter has a parts car, but I think everything inside the dash got pulverized. I have no idea if my 190D has the same part in it or not. Too bad it's not in the EPC. Isn't an evap change in a W124 worth more $$ than the car? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 with 3-speed auto?
David Bruckmann wrote: > > Once again, I can't help wondering if putting in a 4-speed from a later car > might not be a wise idea (if one were doing a rebuild anyway i.e. not just > for the sake of it), and whether the high fuel consumption on these cars > isn't in part due to the gearing. With that much horsepower, there's no > reason why it should be turning 3000rpm at only 60mph. You're thinking like an American again. I was guilty of that five years ago when I first came to this list's predecessor. The problem is that MBZ never used a four speed overdrive tranny, they were all 1:1 ratio in top gear, using none of the gearing, just locking the output shaft to the input shaft, just like the 3 speed. I believe the 3sp used a real torque converter while the old 4sp used a fluid coupling, but I have no idea which is more inefficient at cruising speeds. You could probably gain 10-20% if you could adapt a tranny with a locking torque converter, (or a manual tranny) and might get another mpg or so if you had an overdrive or a taller final drive. The cheapest way to improve would be to find a taller geared differential that fits. I don't like doing 3000rpm at 60 in my 2.3-16 any more than I enjoyed doing 3500rpm in my Saab 99. I always wanted to put a 5sp OD from a Saab 900 in the 99, but it rusted out before I got the chance. I have a 190D 2.5T with 2.65 diff, which is a major change from the 3.27 in the 16v, and I believe a drop in replacement if I change the speedometer with it. The 16v gets 26-27mpg as is, so I'm hoping 30mpg might be possible. Don't ask me why a car with 22mpg EPA hwy rating gets 26.7mpg in mostly local driving at 50-60mph, I'm just glad I don't get 20mpg. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Need A/C Part For '87 300D
Gentlemen, I am in desperate need of a so far unobtainable part for the A/C system in my '87 300D. The part is not listed in the EPC or available from the Dealer. My evaporator replacement is on hold till I can find these parts. On the inner firewall above the heater/evaporator box there is a metal bracket that carries the fresh air door vacuum actuators and the bell crank/linkage connecting the actuators to the fresh air door. I need the linkage consisting of the white bell crank and black link. I will take the entire bracket/actuator/linkage assembly. Regards, Wray Stanley ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W108 4.5 with 3-speed auto?
Everything I'm finding online (including Rusty's online catalogue) tells me that the W108 4.5L models had a 722.000 (W3A 040) transmission, i.e. three-speed. It was the 2.8L and the 3.5L cars that had four-speed trannies. This information is consistent with the feel of the two cars I drove, both of which seemed to rev very high for the driving speed. Once again, I can't help wondering if putting in a 4-speed from a later car might not be a wise idea (if one were doing a rebuild anyway i.e. not just for the sake of it), and whether the high fuel consumption on these cars isn't in part due to the gearing. With that much horsepower, there's no reason why it should be turning 3000rpm at only 60mph. Are there any 4.5 owners out there who can chime in on this? D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
