Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. --- Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. Allan --- What about all the ladies (and some men) with poor mechanical aptitude who would have less accidents if all they had to remember was that the right foot made the car go and the left foot made the car stop? Don't forget, if we forbid our wives, daughters, and sweethearts to drive, we will be the ones chauffuering them around. As far as it being confusing when switching from automatic to manual cars, it already is for many people. It would also give the left leg a little exercise. The way it is now in an automatic, the left leg just sits there and whithers away. Haven't you ever noticed how people who drive automatics a lot have left legs that are skinnier than their right legs? (-:] Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
Yeah, I hate those idiotic behaviors you describe. But they're caused by inept, careless driving by inept, careless drivers - not by left-foot-braking. Brian On Dec 21, 2007 9:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. Thank you strieb!I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion! Consider a dozen cars moving down the freeway at about the same speed. The car showing it's brake lights, for no good reason, is probably driven by a left foot braker. They sneeze, the brakes come on, the phone rings, the brakes come on, they change lanes, the brakes come on, they tailgate closer than anyone else, the brakes come on! Brake lights are necessary to warn of an impending speed change. Resting your left foot on the brake pedal invariably results in an excess display of brake lights, mesmerizing the other drivers, maybe, lulling them into complacency, I hope not, but certainly annoying. Riding the brake pedal with your left foot MAY improve your reaction time, but I bet left foot braking is NOT safer in the overall street driving scheme of things! The only group interested in promoting left foot braking is the brake repair shops, who will see a left foot braker's vehicle as core business! End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Got my W108 back today!
My theory is that, like every other nitrogen-charged springing device, it is reliable and related systems do not leak UNTIL the nitrogen charge dissipates, I do not believe that there is a nitrogen charge in there at all, sorry. That crap came later. I can't believe that a car with grease fittings had a non-serviceable active suspension component. I'd bet the hydropneumatic compensator is a bulletproof design as long as there's a gas charge... I think that the seals wear out, and then it stops working right. But if I actually had one I'd have more of an expert opinion. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
Chuck, from an island, told Mr. Jim: Be back in Phoenix mid January.. Will give you a call then.. Let me know too. It would be nice to see your faces. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
This is getting silly. Nobody ever suggested that you Rest your left foot on the brake pedal. You pulled that out of the air. Drive with 2 feet, your choice. Choose to follow me and I have better reaction times because I often brake with my left foot, the choice of lawyers will be mine. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:18:09 EST, you wrote: In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. Thank you strieb!I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion! Consider a dozen cars moving down the freeway at about the same speed. The car showing it's brake lights, for no good reason, is probably driven by a left foot braker. They sneeze, the brakes come on, the phone rings, the brakes come on, they change lanes, the brakes come on, they tailgate closer than anyone else, the brakes come on! Brake lights are necessary to warn of an impending speed change. Resting your left foot on the brake pedal invariably results in an excess display of brake lights, mesmerizing the other drivers, maybe, lulling them into complacency, I hope not, but certainly annoying. Riding the brake pedal with your left foot MAY improve your reaction time, but I bet left foot braking is NOT safer in the overall street driving scheme of things! The only group interested in promoting left foot braking is the brake repair shops, who will see a left foot braker's vehicle as core business! End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
Absolutely, a wonderful skill when used in the right venue. Not something useful in rush hour traffic. The famed Jimmy Clark always had a car w/automatic for city use. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:16:08 -0500, you wrote: Chuck, Once you get heel and toe down, you'll wonder how you ever drove a stick without using it. Go into a corner and get it all just right, and it gives a smile no paddle shift system ever will. If you want to be one with your car, and get the most out of it, heel and toe. :-) Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion Hey Jim. Does this mean we can't get together for lunch sometime. 'Cuz I regularly left foot brake And on occasion am trying to learn heel and toe braking technique on the 5 spd 16V Be back in Phoenix mid January.. Will give you a call then.. Chuck End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
On Dec 22, 2007, at 3:15 AM, archer wrote: What about all the ladies (and some men) with poor mechanical aptitude who would have less accidents if all they had to remember was that the right foot made the car go and the left foot made the car stop? Honestly? I think if their motor skills are that limited then they should not be operating a car. I never *think* about which pedal goes and which one stops, any more than I think about whether I need to move my right foot or my left foot for the next step when I'm walking. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Timothy Robinson wrote: The only exception unfortunately is computer hardware. I won't even rant at how the moment you buy something it's planned obsolete. So you would prefer computing tech to stop advancing? This is why you don't buy the leading edge. For an amount of horsepower you can buy, there is an exponential price curve. There is usually a nice price point where you can get new stuff that will last a long time and not break the bank. That said, depending on your needs stuff in the last 4 years hasn't necessarily gone obsolete. Not the fastest, but certainly enough to get the job done. Kinda like a 240D. FWIW, my linux server is 6 years old. I've only upgraded the RAM and the hard drives. My desktop is about a year old and I bought it on sale for $150 (normally ~500!!). My laptop I bought on sale for $300 two years ago. Computers don't have to be expensive. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
If having to decide what pedal to push confuses anyway, just park it and take the bus. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] As much as women vehemently insist on enjoying the status as drivers equal-to or better-than than men, it just ain't true. Most would benefit hugely from a very basic understanding of the vehicle and its dynamics. In addition, I just don't think it's inborn to a woman to control moving machinery.snip -- I think the problem is the backwardness of the auto industry. As soon as automatic transmissions were invented, the auto manufacturers should have moved the brake pedal to the left side of the steering column; leaving only the accellerator on the right side. It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Even if a person got confused, all they would have to do is push hard on both pedals and the car would not go very far, very fast. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '90 420 SEL
You should have had him buy the one I was selling, it would not have had that problem. Luther wrote: A friend of the family's 420SEL lost brakelights and the dash (speedo/temp/oil etc) is inop. The only things that work in the dash are the clock and the economy gauge. What do I need to look at and check? I asked about the fuses, and they are aluminum..that will be the first check. If that isn't it, what is next? TIA all. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions
You have to have a drive shaft basically custom made for it. OK Don wrote: If you drove it like you do a 240D (floored, and shift at red line), it wouldn't drop off the boost curve, and would be even MORE fun :-). There is more space between the rear of the 616 block and the firewall than there is with a 617, so I think they balanced the block on the mounts, or at least kept the weight distribution similar. I'm guessing that the manual tranny is shorter than an auto, so I don't know how it would work out. Hasn't someone on the list done this already? On Dec 21, 2007 9:35 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, if you did use a turbo 617, wouldn't it start from a stop the same as a non-turbo engine, then benefit from the increased torque/HP? Yes, but it would fall off boost at each shift. Also, emissions are very poor at those times, reputedly another reason they didn't ever make turbo stickshift models. If one was to undertake this conversion, and given a suitable donor car, wouldn't the drive shaft be the only custom modified part? Probably. And maybe not even that. The engine 'grows' towards the front, usually. -- Jim -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EPC sources
Why dont you just use it for free online? OK Don wrote: The copy of the EPC that I was using has decided that it can't find the database anymore, for no apparent reason. I also can't find the CD I installed it from. So, I did search on eBay for it, and came up with these tow likely suspects. Has anyone done business with either of these? Do they look reputable? http://tinyurl.com/32thuc http://tinyurl.com/2kz8ev -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
Anytime you have to downshift is the right venue. If you don't do it, you're only doing half your job and not matching engine speed to trans and road speed. Ed 300E 911SC On 22/12/2007, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely, a wonderful skill when used in the right venue. Not something useful in rush hour traffic. The famed Jimmy Clark always had a car w/automatic for city use. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:16:08 -0500, you wrote: Chuck, Once you get heel and toe down, you'll wonder how you ever drove a stick without using it. Go into a corner and get it all just right, and it gives a smile no paddle shift system ever will. If you want to be one with your car, and get the most out of it, heel and toe. :-) Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion Hey Jim. Does this mean we can't get together for lunch sometime. 'Cuz I regularly left foot brake And on occasion am trying to learn heel and toe braking technique on the 5 spd 16V Be back in Phoenix mid January.. Will give you a call then.. Chuck End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
If you're putting your trust in your reaction time by left braking alone, you're already off the road and in the ditch. Think ahead and start reacting before you need to. I'd even dare to say, brake pressure if more important that that first reaction time. You can get on the brakes as fast as you like, most (non ABS) drivers never use anywhere near their brakes full potential. It's something ppl should do from time to time in a safe controlled area, just to refresh themselves as to how fast they can stop their cars, should they have to. The bottom line is this, if you find yourself needing to reach for the brakes often, in such a rushed manor, you have to take a look at how your driving and why it is you're getting yourself into these situations in the first place. Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is getting silly. Nobody ever suggested that you Rest your left foot on the brake pedal. You pulled that out of the air. Drive with 2 feet, your choice. Choose to follow me and I have better reaction times because I often brake with my left foot, the choice of lawyers will be mine. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:18:09 EST, you wrote: In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. Thank you strieb!I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion! Consider a dozen cars moving down the freeway at about the same speed. The car showing it's brake lights, for no good reason, is probably driven by a left foot braker. They sneeze, the brakes come on, the phone rings, the brakes come on, they change lanes, the brakes come on, they tailgate closer than anyone else, the brakes come on! Brake lights are necessary to warn of an impending speed change. Resting your left foot on the brake pedal invariably results in an excess display of brake lights, mesmerizing the other drivers, maybe, lulling them into complacency, I hope not, but certainly annoying. Riding the brake pedal with your left foot MAY improve your reaction time, but I bet left foot braking is NOT safer in the overall street driving scheme of things! The only group interested in promoting left foot braking is the brake repair shops, who will see a left foot braker's vehicle as core business! End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby computers
FWIW, my linux server is 6 years old. This Mac G3 is probably older than that, and was given to us free. A whopping 233 MHz, yet it serves just fine. I don't need much, really. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
Nobody ever suggested that you Rest your left foot on the brake pedal. You pulled that out of the air. I know there are a lot of left-foot brakers out there. How? Because of the number of cars with brake lights on when they're obviously not decelerating, either steadily or intermittently. It's a bad habit to get into except in exceptional circumstances, as it trains you in a way that's incompatible with a manual car. Whether or not you prefer an automatic, you should be able to drive either, safely and well. My wife FINALLY learned clutch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
I prefer the older stuff too, especially if it can be rebuilt, or worth rebuilding. I'm the kind of guy who would buy an older car I like, and in the next 10 years, spend enough money keeping it nice a I would spend to buy a new car. There's a certain pride and pleasure that comes with using a well made, well engineered product, whether a car, tool, or appliance. Ed 300E, which is quickly becoming my favorite appliance. :-) On 22/12/2007, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've just gotta love 'em! I'd probably have a Kirby for carpet sweeping but I'm just sold on those old cannister types. Though I like the new Dyson uprights that swirl the dirt around in a chamber, no bag... I don't like the idea of pretty new plastic appliances that are disposed of after a few years. Give me my 40, 30 and 23 year old vacumne cleaners, my 25 y/o KitchenAid mixer, my 45 year old Hotpoint rotary ironer (mangle), etc. Yep, I'm compulsive about certain things. I'd rather do without until I could afford something of quality rather than buy cheap and replace every year. Appreciating quality and taking proper car of those things is a key! That's why this type of discussion is appropriate on a MBZ thread. While on a rant here... I was taught not to finance anything that depreciates. You'd pay interest on a loan for something new that loses value? That's not always possible. BUT.. I'm afraid I'm pretty close minded when it comes to being interested in new cars. I'm not at all current on new cars, optional equipment, etc. My last conversation with a car dealer was early last spring when I was looking for a new little Ford Ranger pickup. I walked on the lot saying I wanted a basic little 5 speed p/u. Every unit had some ridiculous add-on equipment which boosted the price. I walked on the lot with a price in mind and a checkbook in hand. The salesman tried so hard to sell me on some customer preferred package that he convinced me I would not be a customer as I didn't prefer those packages. I left. The only exception unfortunately is computer hardware. I won't even rant at how the moment you buy something it's planned obsolete. T From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 01:09:34 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum I have an old Electrolux too, from the early 60's. Thing is built like an old Benz. lol. I have a box of all kinds of old attachments for it, including one to vacuum the dog. It's semi-retired now and used to vacuum the cars. Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still an Electrolux guy here. I have a 1976 model upstairs and a 1984 model downstairs. Still have my grandparents' '50s model which is a chrome thing on skids. It came with turbo/air powered buffing attachments for the paste wax we used on the hardwood floors. Honestly, for the price of replacing with a new I'd just put a central unit in which exhausts to the outside. Then I could vacume the cat without scaring it. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:57:35 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum I saw the Dyson's on TV here, the day before they hit the shelves. Ran to the store to get one. Seemed enough at almost $600 at the time, but I'm a clean freak, so hey, why not. Then saw it was made in China, I turned around and walked out. Ed 300E On 21/12/2007, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some newer vacs are healthier because they have replaceable HEPA filters. I've heard how the Dyson vacuums clean up pet hair quite well, and they also don't spew the smelly exhaust out into the room as you're vacuuming! When we were living in an apartment for a few months between houses this summer, the pet hair in such close quarters with no air circulation was too much for Wifey, so we decided to get a Dyson. It did do a good job with the pet hair, the hepa filtered exhaust was wonderful, and it was much easier to maneuver. Will it last 10-15-20 years? I guess time will tell. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions
One from a 240D should work. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You have to have a drive shaft basically custom made for it. What about the tranny mount crossmember? Do you need to get one from a 300D euro manny? (BTW, I'm pretty sure the euro/manny driveshaft would work a treat) And where's Craig when we need him? Did he go on a holiday trip? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers/Chuck
I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion Chuck, I did start out by saying I hate left foot brakers, then I changed it to avoid personal connotations. My daughter is a left foot braker, as are most type A personalities, some of whom, I actually like! Ya, we definitely have to do lunch and get caught up. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
And the Diesel contact to this flame trap would be?? -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:47:59 -0500, you wrote: If you're putting your trust in your reaction time by left braking alone, you're already off the road and in the ditch. Think ahead and start reacting before you need to. I'd even dare to say, brake pressure if more important that that first reaction time. You can get on the brakes as fast as you like, most (non ABS) drivers never use anywhere near their brakes full potential. It's something ppl should do from time to time in a safe controlled area, just to refresh themselves as to how fast they can stop their cars, should they have to. The bottom line is this, if you find yourself needing to reach for the brakes often, in such a rushed manor, you have to take a look at how your driving and why it is you're getting yourself into these situations in the first place. Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is getting silly. Nobody ever suggested that you Rest your left foot on the brake pedal. You pulled that out of the air. Drive with 2 feet, your choice. Choose to follow me and I have better reaction times because I often brake with my left foot, the choice of lawyers will be mine. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:18:09 EST, you wrote: In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. Thank you strieb!I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion! Consider a dozen cars moving down the freeway at about the same speed. The car showing it's brake lights, for no good reason, is probably driven by a left foot braker. They sneeze, the brakes come on, the phone rings, the brakes come on, they change lanes, the brakes come on, they tailgate closer than anyone else, the brakes come on! Brake lights are necessary to warn of an impending speed change. Resting your left foot on the brake pedal invariably results in an excess display of brake lights, mesmerizing the other drivers, maybe, lulling them into complacency, I hope not, but certainly annoying. Riding the brake pedal with your left foot MAY improve your reaction time, but I bet left foot braking is NOT safer in the overall street driving scheme of things! The only group interested in promoting left foot braking is the brake repair shops, who will see a left foot braker's vehicle as core business! End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Get central vac and never buy another vaccuum again. Even without a beater bar out central vac is the most effective vac I've ever used. The hose is way lighter than any portable. -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:41:12 -0500 From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Very heavy, my Wife would comment worse present I ever gave her. Our present Orack is about 5 pounds of very functioanl power. PeteOn Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:15:14 -0500, you wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
Not meant as a flame or insult to any who use their left foot, I do too at times. But not for reaction time. I don't know of any driving instructor who would suggest using your left foot to brake, in the real world, would increase you safety or braking time in anyway. As far as I know, even though many on this list own diesels, it's not a diesel list? Maybe I missed that bit though? Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the Diesel contact to this flame trap would be?? -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:47:59 -0500, you wrote: If you're putting your trust in your reaction time by left braking alone, you're already off the road and in the ditch. Think ahead and start reacting before you need to. I'd even dare to say, brake pressure if more important that that first reaction time. You can get on the brakes as fast as you like, most (non ABS) drivers never use anywhere near their brakes full potential. It's something ppl should do from time to time in a safe controlled area, just to refresh themselves as to how fast they can stop their cars, should they have to. The bottom line is this, if you find yourself needing to reach for the brakes often, in such a rushed manor, you have to take a look at how your driving and why it is you're getting yourself into these situations in the first place. Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is getting silly. Nobody ever suggested that you Rest your left foot on the brake pedal. You pulled that out of the air. Drive with 2 feet, your choice. Choose to follow me and I have better reaction times because I often brake with my left foot, the choice of lawyers will be mine. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:18:09 EST, you wrote: In a message dated 12/21/2007 8:21:53 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. Thank you strieb!I hate the idea of left foot braking with a passion! Consider a dozen cars moving down the freeway at about the same speed. The car showing it's brake lights, for no good reason, is probably driven by a left foot braker. They sneeze, the brakes come on, the phone rings, the brakes come on, they change lanes, the brakes come on, they tailgate closer than anyone else, the brakes come on! Brake lights are necessary to warn of an impending speed change. Resting your left foot on the brake pedal invariably results in an excess display of brake lights, mesmerizing the other drivers, maybe, lulling them into complacency, I hope not, but certainly annoying. Riding the brake pedal with your left foot MAY improve your reaction time, but I bet left foot braking is NOT safer in the overall street driving scheme of things! The only group interested in promoting left foot braking is the brake repair shops, who will see a left foot braker's vehicle as core business! End Rant! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
I was thinking to install one when I had the house rewired, but a few ppl told me the long hose can chew up the corners of the walls as you round them going from room to room? Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get central vac and never buy another vaccuum again. Even without a beater bar out central vac is the most effective vac I've ever used. The hose is way lighter than any portable. -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:41:12 -0500 From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Very heavy, my Wife would comment worse present I ever gave her. Our present Orack is about 5 pounds of very functioanl power. PeteOn Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:15:14 -0500, you wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 190d diesel - $1500
This guy has an 84 190d manny nice in/out yellow beige but clutch pedal is siesed, can't push in pedal even with full force, runs great been sitting 3 years just jumped it and started right up no smoke 220k. it was in the previous owners garage 2 years, his daughter brought it home that way, maybe another result of gas/brake/clutch mixup syndrome discussed here, any ideas? my 85 190d manny needs a little sister. Tony ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Get central vac and never buy another vacuum again. Right on, Curt! I've used ours a few times and love it too. I had a small corded hand vac with a rotating brush that i **USED** to use for the stairs, but the central vac in the new house came with a mini powerhead which does such a fine job! The larger powerhead is lighter than any portable, even while dragging the hose around. I can muscle it around with one arm unlike the Kirby or the Dyson, and it's easy to lift too. Central vac all the way! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula PS. There's a central vac outlet and hose in the shop for vacuuming out the cars. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
We got a Roomba, loved it so much we got a Scooba, loved it so much we got a Dirt Dog. Our central vac stays idle most of the time. I turn the Dirt Dog loose when I'm working in my shop area and he keeps things pretty well picked up. Harry On Dec 22, 2007 12:26 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking to install one when I had the house rewired, but a few ppl told me the long hose can chew up the corners of the walls as you round them going from room to room? Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get central vac and never buy another vaccuum again. Even without a beater bar out central vac is the most effective vac I've ever used. The hose is way lighter than any portable. -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:41:12 -0500 From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Very heavy, my Wife would comment worse present I ever gave her. Our present Orack is about 5 pounds of very functioanl power. PeteOn Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:15:14 -0500, you wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
Ed, Then there is always powershifting... (no clutch at all!) Chuck On Dec 21, 2007, at 8:16 PM, E M wrote: Chuck, Once you get heel and toe down, you'll wonder how you ever drove a stick without using it. Go into a corner and get it all just right, and it gives a smile no paddle shift system ever will. If you want to be one with your car, and get the most out of it, heel and toe. :-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
Bob, You will get a call... Chuck On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:52 AM, Robert Rentfro wrote: Chuck, from an island, told Mr. Jim: Be back in Phoenix mid January.. Will give you a call then.. Let me know too. It would be nice to see your faces. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 Mercedes 190d diesel - $1500
Possibly the clutch master cylinder has corroded/seized, or the same with the slave cylinder. On Dec 22, 2007 12:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This guy has an 84 190d manny nice in/out yellow beige but clutch pedal is siesed, can't push in pedal even with full force, runs great been sitting 3 years just jumped it and started right up no smoke 220k. it was in the previous owners garage 2 years, his daughter brought it home that way, maybe another result of gas/brake/clutch mixup syndrome discussed here, any ideas? my 85 190d manny needs a little sister. Tony -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hilarious driving stories
Hi, I have to admit that a couple of times stopping in the 16V 5 speed, I have just depressed the brake pedal, forgetting to depress the clutch also.. Chatter, chatter, chatter OH, Stupid --- Depress the clutch! On the other hand, in the 500E w/automatic, I have (once or twice) found myself depressing the brake (thinking clutch) and moved the shift lever to N from D, thinking I was shifting The revs bring me back to reality.. DOH!!! Take care, Chuck On Dec 22, 2007, at 4:17 AM, Allan Streib wrote: On Dec 22, 2007, at 3:15 AM, archer wrote: What about all the ladies (and some men) with poor mechanical aptitude who would have less accidents if all they had to remember was that the right foot made the car go and the left foot made the car stop? Honestly? I think if their motor skills are that limited then they should not be operating a car. I never *think* about which pedal goes and which one stops, any more than I think about whether I need to move my right foot or my left foot for the next step when I'm walking. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] oil leaks
Hello All, I'm trying to track down some oil leaks in my 87 300TD. This is the wagon I bought from Jeff Zedic about a year ago. I think one leak may be from the vacuum pump. Jeff had recently replaced this and perhaps the gasket was installed incorrectly. Can the vacuum pump be a significant source of oil? My leaks are very bad. I also seem to be seeing alot of oil coming from around the driver side engine mount. Anyone got any idea where the exact leak would be coming from. I don't think the bracket for the mount has a gasket. I would assume it just mounts to the block. TIA. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 AWD wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
No, its not a diesel list. E M wrote: Not meant as a flame or insult to any who use their left foot, I do too at times. But not for reaction time. I don't know of any driving instructor who would suggest using your left foot to brake, in the real world, would increase you safety or braking time in anyway. As far as I know, even though many on this list own diesels, it's not a diesel list? Maybe I missed that bit though? Ed 300E -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil leaks
Ralph, I've always suspected the injection pump to be producing a leak on the engine. Also, yes full disclosure, the vacuum pump gasket is not 100% seated correctly. I didn't notice this until AFTER everything was re-installed and running!! At the time it was not leaking so I just left it and thanked my lucky stars. I think you'll see the green gasket if you look at the left hand side of the cover near the 10 o'clock position?? Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil leaks
Yes, I concur. It's more than likely the injection pump as the source on the driver's side--and it's more than likely the bottom gasket, which is a real PITA to replace in situ. On Dec 22, 2007 12:06 PM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always suspected the injection pump to be producing a leak on the engine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
... And on occasion am trying to learn heel and toe braking technique on the 5 spd 16V Chuck Once you get heel and toe down, you'll wonder how you ever drove a stick without using it. Go into a corner and get it all just right, and it gives a smile no paddle shift system ever will. If you want to be one with your car, and get the most out of it, heel and toe. :-) Ed Absolutely, a wonderful skill when used in the right venue. Not something useful in rush hour traffic. The famed Jimmy Clark always had a car w/automatic for city use. Peter T. Arnold Anytime you have to downshift is the right venue. If you don't do it, you're only doing half your job and not matching engine speed to trans and road speed. Ed Who says you have to heel and toe to rev match during a downshift? There are otherways. And rev matching is most important where speed is important. In city traffic, I would rather wear out the easy-to-replace brakes than the clutch, engine, and transmission. To really want to know that you can match engine speed, road speed, and transmission gear ratio - shift without the clutch. It saves on clutch wear. Done wrong it will wear out the syncro's, though. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil leaks
Hey Jeff, Nice to see you're still on the list. I hadn't seen you post in a while so I wondered if you were still around. Sounds like I have one source of leakage tracked down to the vacuum pump. I don't think that it is the major source however. I had powerwashed the engine last week and put it on my friends hoist. Haven't driven it much since. I just looked at the engine again today and am seeing major oil leaks at the engine mount bracket. I don't think the IP would be wicking oil to that area. I wonder if the oil filter canister could be wicking oil there. The canister is really barried and I can't get a good look at it because of the location of the starter. On another note the tranny finally died a few months ago. I found a local 87 sedan with a ruined engine, due to a bad head, sitting in a salvage yard. Owner of the yard insisted the tranny was good. Had 225k on the clock. I took my chances and bought it for $300. A friend who messes with tranny's on the side installed it for another $250. It's run great so far, like new. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Aside from the leaks the only problem is when the car sits for a while and it's cold I get tons of smoke at startup for a few minutes. Then all is well and engine runs very strong. Not bad for 300K on the clock. I have to get these leaks fixed. I'm making a mess of the street out front of my house. My neighbor has a shop and hoist and is constantly offering to let me use it. I think I'm embarrassing him. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] oil leaks Ralph, I've always suspected the injection pump to be producing a leak on the engine. Also, yes full disclosure, the vacuum pump gasket is not 100% seated correctly. I didn't notice this until AFTER everything was re-installed and running!! At the time it was not leaking so I just left it and thanked my lucky stars. I think you'll see the green gasket if you look at the left hand side of the cover near the 10 o'clock position?? Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil leaks
Leak sources I know about on OM603s: Turbo pressure line -- this fouls the passenger side. Valve cover gasket -- can leak anywhere. Bad oil filler cap. If there is oil standing in the drip groove around the cap, it's leaking. Only does so at above idle rpms, and will dump copious oil down the side of the engine on the driver's side. Cheap fix, a new cap is a couple bucks. You can loose a quart of oil in less than 1000 miles out this one. Injection pump -- wipe the bottom cover clean, then check again after driving a bit. Requires pulling the IP to fix, as the screws are completely inaccessable installed. Timing chain tensioner seal. Dribbles oil down the passenger front onto the alternator. Front crank seal (also check for a bad balancer, we are putting one on my brother's SDL this week). Replace or reverse (if not previously reversed) the spacer behind the balancer. Head gasket at the front chain case or around the oil drain on the rear Crossover pipe on the intake -- there is always oil in it, but a bad gasket allows it to drip. Ditto for a bad intake gasket -- look for oil oozing off the bottom of the runners at the head. Oil smoke on startup means you need new valve guide seals, and at the milage you have, I would check for worn guides, too -- usually due for a valve job at 250,000 to 300,000 miles on Benz aluminum heads, the exhaust valves will be worn out. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear
Oh man, yet another mechanical malady... It would appear my '96 Dakota won't get out of first gear. It'll wind right up to 30mph but won't ever shift. Well sometimes but then if you slow down it goes back and the game resets. At first I thought it was slipping into neutral but thats not the case its definately staying in first. I went to FLAPS and got a bottle of that Lucas trans goop which doesn't seem to have done anything. Remember I put that in trying to troubleshoot an issue I now know I don't have. The Haynes book basically says forget it, ATs are too complicated... -Curt - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Downshifting
Anytime you have to downshift is the right venue. If you don't do it, you're only doing half your job and not matching engine speed to trans and road speed. Now, you are talking about double-clutching, not heel and toeing which are not necessarily used in combination. Certainly in everyday driving, heel-and-toeing is not going to be used because you are not applying that much braking. When driving my Porsche, I almost always downshift so as to be in the right gear when I want to accellerate. And driving on the track, heel-and-toe would be used all the time. Even in the MB, I sometimes run in 3rd or 4th gear (both lockups) in 25-35 mph traffic both for slowing and accellerating. I haven't driven a manual diesel in a long time but it seems to me that heel-and-toeing one would be a waste of time becuse of the slow throttle response. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear
Make sure the kickdown rod is working (if this is still like the old Toqueflight and has mechanical throttle position sensing). Stuck at wide open, it won't let the tranny upshift. You may need to pull the pan to verify that the lever isn't broken inside. Otherwise, if it's electronically controlled, make sure the electrical connector is attached and not corroded. Beyond that, I'm afraid I can't be much help. My experience with Chyrsler auto trannys is limited -- last time I had one that did that, the lever for the kickdown was broken off inside on one, and the remplacement was missing some slip rings on the stator support, which of course means someone rebuilt it, probably while seriously intoxicated. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:05:48 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You have to have a drive shaft basically custom made for it. What about the tranny mount crossmember? Do you need to get one from a 300D euro manny? (BTW, I'm pretty sure the euro/manny driveshaft would work a treat) I _think_ the one in our car is from a manny-tranny 240D, but I'm not sure. When I did our conversion, I started with a 617 with 240D stick shift from a fellow back east. I also had access to a Euro 123.130 (naturally aspirated 617 with stick), so I may have used the cross member from that. I do recall that I used the 123.130's transmission. And where's Craig when we need him? Did he go on a holiday trip? I went to Eugene, OR, last week and am still catching up on (wading through) the several hundred list emails that were waiting for me upon my return... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:35:54 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If one was to undertake this conversion, and given a suitable donor car, wouldn't the drive shaft be the only custom modified part? Probably. And maybe not even that. The engine 'grows' towards the front, usually. No, the 5th cylinder is added at the back of the engine. You do need a special driveshaft. Don't forget, if you're going from an automatic to a stick that you also need the clutch pedal and hanger, master and slave cylinders, and the piping between the cylinders. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear
Oh man, yet another mechanical malady... It would appear my '96 Dakota won't get out of first gear. It'll wind right up to 30mph but won't ever shift. Well sometimes but then if you slow down it goes back and the game resets. At first I thought it was slipping into neutral but thats not the case its definately staying in first. I went to FLAPS and got a bottle of that Lucas trans goop which doesn't seem to have done anything. Remember I put that in trying to troubleshoot an issue I now know I don't have. The Haynes book basically says forget it, ATs are too complicated... -Curt It sounds like it _could_ be the governor. That is usually fairly accessible. On all the transmissions I'm familiar with (not many...) it doesn't even require the pan to be removed. That would be the easy fix. Anything else will probably involve more than list posts to repair... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Manual 617 conversion questions
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:03:36 -0600 Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The flywheel is the tough part. Since the OM617 is _not_ internally balanced and the OM616 _is_, the right way to do the job is to have non-balanced flywheel that compensates for the engine imbalance. Mathieu J. Cama and Craig McCluskey have both done it. I think there were others too. Maybe they can chime in with the real answer. The driveshaft isn't exactly easy, but the flywheel is difficult, if you want to do it right. If you want to do it the right way, like the factory manual says, you'll need to remove the old flywheel from the engine (AFTER marking its position) and balance the new flywheel to it (facing the same direction, but rotated 180 degrees, IIRC). I didn't do that. I had the flywheel static balanced and slapped it on the engine (after putting the proper input shaft support bearing in) and got away with it. I've driven 65 kmi since then without problems. YMMV! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Downshifting
My daily driving allows me to use enough brake force that heel and toe downshifts are always used. Even when using moderate brake force, I can blip the throttle and keep pretty even pressure (not threshold) on the brakes. I make double-clutching part of the process, though many don't. The double clutching is what helps spin up the next gear set before it's engaged. Many just let the sycros do all the work. Back in the day, the 917 drivers hated the syncos in the gearboxes as they complained they slowed the gear changes down. In the Benz, I'll use 2nd with the slush box to hold or delay an upshift at times. Haven't used it while slowing much, other than if I have lower rpm's anyway, I'm coming to a stop and I know I want to hold 2nd while accelerating away. I can't comment on diesels as I've only driven a few (old 300D and 300SD), but yes, they did seem to have very long pedal travel and would require different ankles to heel and toe than what I came equipped with. Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anytime you have to downshift is the right venue. If you don't do it, you're only doing half your job and not matching engine speed to trans and road speed. Now, you are talking about double-clutching, not heel and toeing which are not necessarily used in combination. Certainly in everyday driving, heel-and-toeing is not going to be used because you are not applying that much braking. When driving my Porsche, I almost always downshift so as to be in the right gear when I want to accellerate. And driving on the track, heel-and-toe would be used all the time. Even in the MB, I sometimes run in 3rd or 4th gear (both lockups) in 25-35 mph traffic both for slowing and accellerating. I haven't driven a manual diesel in a long time but it seems to me that heel-and-toeing one would be a waste of time becuse of the slow throttle response. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Downshifting
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:20:50 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't driven a manual diesel in a long time but it seems to me that heel-and-toeing one would be a waste of time becuse of the slow throttle response. Our '72 220D/8 (OM615) had a throttle plate setup and dreadful slow throttle response. I went from a '68 Lotus Europa to that and had to abandon double-clutching. Our '82 240D/3.0 has much improved throttle response and I regularly double-clutch, particularly when slowing when going up a hill. My wife doesn't understand what I'm doing, it works so well. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
heel and toeing saves your engine, and trans. The whole idea behind heel and toe is to match engine, trans and wheel speed. As speed increases, it pays in other ways too, as you heel and toe gives you a nice stable platform, and you can then seperate different parts of the car and allow them to work to they full potential. You are in no way putting added stress on any of these things, just the opposite. You are however using the brakes to slow the car, not the engine, but that's what brakes are made for, and easy and cheap to replace as you say. Ed 300E Anytime you have to downshift is the right venue. If you don't do it, you're only doing half your job and not matching engine speed to trans and road speed. Ed Who says you have to heel and toe to rev match during a downshift? There are otherways. And rev matching is most important where speed is important. In city traffic, I would rather wear out the easy-to-replace brakes than the clutch, engine, and transmission. To really want to know that you can match engine speed, road speed, and transmission gear ratio - shift without the clutch. It saves on clutch wear. Done wrong it will wear out the syncro's, though. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Probably true. You'd want to have enough ports so that you'd never need to really yank on the hose to clean a room. In our little house we're fine with just one port. I try to be careful going room to room not to drag the hose against the corners. Still, you gotta try one, even if it ment repainting a couple spots (or installing plastic shielding) it'd be worth it. So much easier, so quiet. What happens with your vac if you accidentally grab a plastic grocery bag? With our central vac it means it'll go in the trash when I empty the cannister NEXT YEAR. Yeah I only need to empty it once a year... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:26:24 -0500 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was thinking to install one when I had the house rewired, but a few ppl told me the long hose can chew up the corners of the walls as you round them going from room to room? Ed 300E - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Downshifting
The problem if you let your wife or girlfriend see you heel and toe is, they'll ask why you're so good dancing on the pedals, and yet always pass up the chance to dance at weddings, claiming to have two left feet. ;-) Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:20:50 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't driven a manual diesel in a long time but it seems to me that heel-and-toeing one would be a waste of time becuse of the slow throttle response. Our '72 220D/8 (OM615) had a throttle plate setup and dreadful slow throttle response. I went from a '68 Lotus Europa to that and had to abandon double-clutching. Our '82 240D/3.0 has much improved throttle response and I regularly double-clutch, particularly when slowing when going up a hill. My wife doesn't understand what I'm doing, it works so well. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and/OT: now left foot brakers
On Dec 22, 2007 7:56 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know there are a lot of left-foot brakers out there. How? Because of the number of cars with brake lights on when they're obviously not decelerating, either steadily or intermittently. I've made the same observation, although sometimes I think I'm seeing a left-foot braker when it's really just a new car with superbright retina-blasting LED taillights. I hate those things. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear
Hi Peter, Its a '96 and Haynes seems to indicate its all electronically controlled. Even if it weren't theres only controls, one is a throttle lever, the other the gearshift lever. I verified that the throttle cable to the trans moves at the engine. I guess I should crawl under the truck and have my wife pump the gas and see if maybe the throttle lever isn't moving underneith. Maybe its pinned and the truck thinks its supposed to be kicking down constantly. Thanks for the idea, I'll give it a shot tomorrow morning. Otherwise I talked to my MB Indy tonight (190D needs an alternator, no joy for me this weekend) and he suggested the trans place I'd already figured to go to. -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:29:37 -0600 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Make sure the kickdown rod is working (if this is still like the old Toqueflight and has mechanical throttle position sensing). Stuck at wide open, it won't let the tranny upshift. You may need to pull the pan to verify that the lever isn't broken inside. Otherwise, if it's electronically controlled, make sure the electrical connector is attached and not corroded. Beyond that, I'm afraid I can't be much help. My experience with Chyrsler auto trannys is limited -- last time I had one that did that, the lever for the kickdown was broken off inside on one, and the remplacement was missing some slip rings on the stator support, which of course means someone rebuilt it, probably while seriously intoxicated. Peter - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
The last house we built in Wisconsin was over 3,000 sf and two stories. There was no way we were dragging a vacuum around the house, so we put in a central vac system. Definitely worth every penny, for a number of reasons. And yes, I too only had to empty the drum about once/twice a year. Nice. Had the builder for this house not been such a putz about us doing our own stuff to the house I would have put one in here as well. Dan --- Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably true. You'd want to have enough ports so that you'd never need to really yank on the hose to clean a room. In our little house we're fine with just one port. I try to be careful going room to room not to drag the hose against the corners. Still, you gotta try one, even if it ment repainting a couple spots (or installing plastic shielding) it'd be worth it. So much easier, so quiet. What happens with your vac if you accidentally grab a plastic grocery bag? With our central vac it means it'll go in the trash when I empty the cannister NEXT YEAR. Yeah I only need to empty it once a year... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:26:24 -0500 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was thinking to install one when I had the house rewired, but a few ppl told me the long hose can chew up the corners of the walls as you round them going from room to room? Ed 300E - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [NMC] Early Christmas gift :-)
Hi Everyone, A friend just stopped around with an early Christmas gift. A bottle of wine and Jackie Stewart's bio, Winning Is Not Enough. I was watching the YouTube vids yesterday of Sabine Schmitz and it mentioned in one of them, Steward named the Ring, the Green Hell. I think he really gave a lot or racers a voice at a time when most weren't expected to make it through more than a few years in the sport due to the dangers. Should be a good read. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] downshifts
My daily driving allows me to use enough brake force that heel and toe downshifts are always used. Even when using moderate brake force, I can blip the throttle and keep pretty even pressure (not threshold) on the brakes. So you drive the 911 every day, then. And you wait until the very last moment to brake on the street? Sounds like a setup to get rear-ended to me. I can't comment on diesels as I've only driven a few (old 300D and 300SD), but yes, they did seem to have very long pedal travel and would require different ankles to heel and toe than what I came equipped with. Both automatics so obviously what we are talking about here does not apply. And I was referring to slow throttle response, not long pedal travel. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] diesel racers
I have a question pertaining to motor sports. I know many on the list drive diesels. Are those of you who do mostly interested in them as daily drivers, or do you follow diesels in motor sport as well? I know Mercedes isn't overly involved at the moment, well, not to my knowledge anyway, but Audi and BMW both have diesel racing programs. I've been to a few races to watch the Audi's, and the most amazing thing is, how quiet they are. Gas mileage and fewer stops have given them an edge often. I'm sure if they haven't done so already, mercedes and their bluetech engines will soon be added to the grids. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] downshifts
On 22/12/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My daily driving allows me to use enough brake force that heel and toe downshifts are always used. Even when using moderate brake force, I can blip the throttle and keep pretty even pressure (not threshold) on the brakes. So you drive the 911 every day, then. And you wait until the very last moment to brake on the street? Sounds like a setup to get rear-ended to me. 3 seasons, as often as I can. See my post and read I'm able to heel and toe without threshold braking all the time. I tend to check my mirrors from time to time too before breaking. If he's riding me that close, guess I'll just have to pray his left foot is hovering over the brake pedal to allow him the faster response time he'll need. I can't comment on diesels as I've only driven a few (old 300D and 300SD), but yes, they did seem to have very long pedal travel and would require different ankles to heel and toe than what I came equipped with. Both automatics so obviously what we are talking about here does not apply. And I was referring to slow throttle response, not long pedal travel. As I said, very little experience in diesels, stick, auto or otherwise. The few I drove seemed to respond quick enough for what they were and pull fine from down low Ed 300E RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Lose some, win some
I gotta toot my horn on this one, after a couple days of crushing defeats on the automotive front (190D needs an alternator, not a whopping surprise) I bodgered together lights for my new-to-me snowmobile by stealing some wiring from a non-runner and a taillight bulb from my wife's motorcycle (it doesn't need it right now). Then I proceeded to make a new starter button spring for said motorcycle. Its been sitting right in the way in the garage because I was cleaning the contacts on the starter button and managed to lose the spring. Last night at the hardware store I noticed a big box of springs and picked one mostly at random. A little snipping and bending and it worked perfectly. Tomorrow I can reconnect the gas tank, start it up, change the oil and finally put it away for winter... Which frees up space for the non-runner snowmobile and the cycle starts over with another piece of equipment. Well I though I was winning. -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Kirby vacuum
'Been using Pullman central vac system everywhere I've lived, except Thailand and Greenland since 1968. 'Made a shop vac about 15 yrs ago using a plastic bucket and a vac motor/turbine left over from a system I designed and installed in IBM's first circuit chip lab at NC's Research Triangle Park in about 1969/70. 'Still using small domestic vac cleaner I bought for my mother in 1954 - 'use it mainly now for sucking oil from my MB's. 'Don't remember the make, but most mainline vacs use Lamb motors, which last a LONG time. BTW, I've been using right foot only for going AND stopping ground vehicles for 59 years. Use whichever foot you like for stopping; just, PLEASE don't ride the brake pedal with it and make the rest of us behind you wonder what you're going to do because of the intermittent (and sometimes continuous) brake lights. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Ed, don't do it until you at least try a Roomba. I'm telling you, the other vacuum systems won't be used much when you have one. Our first was in operation during Thanksgiving 2006. We had it running on the last day as our guests (mostly family) were leaving for home, its hard not to watch it the first time and they did. I believe all but one family bought theirs within a week or so and love it like we do ours. We named ours Albert Einstein because its so smart and we work Albert like a slave, along with his sister Alberta, the Scooba, mops floors. Albert will do a room and then dock himself for recharging. If he gets low on battery, he finds the charging port and docks. He won't go over an edge, his sensor stops and reverses him. I put him in the MB trunk, my pickup bed and the TD, he does a good job while I do something else. The latest models are suppose to be even better, hard to believe. Harry Harry On Dec 22, 2007 6:25 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, now you guys have me thinking. I'm going to have a poke around and see about running the pipes for one. Are all the pipes in the wall rigid, or can you get a flex pipe for routing through tricky bits in the walls and ceilings? Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last house we built in Wisconsin was over 3,000 sf and two stories. There was no way we were dragging a vacuum around the house, so we put in a central vac system. Definitely worth every penny, for a number of reasons. And yes, I too only had to empty the drum about once/twice a year. Nice. Had the builder for this house not been such a putz about us doing our own stuff to the house I would have put one in here as well. Dan --- Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably true. You'd want to have enough ports so that you'd never need to really yank on the hose to clean a room. In our little house we're fine with just one port. I try to be careful going room to room not to drag the hose against the corners. Still, you gotta try one, even if it ment repainting a couple spots (or installing plastic shielding) it'd be worth it. So much easier, so quiet. What happens with your vac if you accidentally grab a plastic grocery bag? With our central vac it means it'll go in the trash when I empty the cannister NEXT YEAR. Yeah I only need to empty it once a year... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:26:24 -0500 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was thinking to install one when I had the house rewired, but a few ppl told me the long hose can chew up the corners of the walls as you round them going from room to room? Ed 300E - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
Hi Harry, I wasn't sure what a Roomba was, so did a search. Looks cool, the cats would love it. :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM0NsPNkyf0 Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, don't do it until you at least try a Roomba. I'm telling you, the other vacuum systems won't be used much when you have one. Our first was in operation during Thanksgiving 2006. We had it running on the last day as our guests (mostly family) were leaving for home, its hard not to watch it the first time and they did. I believe all but one family bought theirs within a week or so and love it like we do ours. We named ours Albert Einstein because its so smart and we work Albert like a slave, along with his sister Alberta, the Scooba, mops floors. Albert will do a room and then dock himself for recharging. If he gets low on battery, he finds the charging port and docks. He won't go over an edge, his sensor stops and reverses him. I put him in the MB trunk, my pickup bed and the TD, he does a good job while I do something else. The latest models are suppose to be even better, hard to believe. Harry Harry On Dec 22, 2007 6:25 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, now you guys have me thinking. I'm going to have a poke around and see about running the pipes for one. Are all the pipes in the wall rigid, or can you get a flex pipe for routing through tricky bits in the walls and ceilings? Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last house we built in Wisconsin was over 3,000 sf and two stories. There was no way we were dragging a vacuum around the house, so we put in a central vac system. Definitely worth every penny, for a number of reasons. And yes, I too only had to empty the drum about once/twice a year. Nice. Had the builder for this house not been such a putz about us doing our own stuff to the house I would have put one in here as well. Dan --- Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably true. You'd want to have enough ports so that you'd never need to really yank on the hose to clean a room. In our little house we're fine with just one port. I try to be careful going room to room not to drag the hose against the corners. Still, you gotta try one, even if it ment repainting a couple spots (or installing plastic shielding) it'd be worth it. So much easier, so quiet. What happens with your vac if you accidentally grab a plastic grocery bag? With our central vac it means it'll go in the trash when I empty the cannister NEXT YEAR. Yeah I only need to empty it once a year... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:26:24 -0500 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was thinking to install one when I had the house rewired, but a few ppl told me the long hose can chew up the corners of the walls as you round them going from room to room? Ed 300E - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum - Roomba
We bought a top line Roomba when I saw my cousin's. We kept it for a few weeks and returned it. Perhaps it was just our house, but it kept getting stuck under counter edges and binding up on rugs. It also tended to get lost under our living room furniture. Others seem happy with them, but we were not. That was 2 1/2 years ago and it could be they have improved since ours. I'd suggest buying from a store that is good about returns. BillR -Original Message- From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/22/07 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum Ed, don't do it until you at least try a Roomba. I'm telling you, the other vacuum systems won't be used much when you have one. Our first was in operation during Thanksgiving 2006. We had it running on the last day as our guests (mostly family) were leaving for home, its hard not to watch it the first time and they did. I believe all but one family bought theirs within a week or so and love it like we do ours. We named ours Albert Einstein because its so smart and we work Albert like a slave, along with his sister Alberta, the Scooba, mops floors. Albert will do a room and then dock himself for recharging. If he gets low on battery, he finds the charging port and docks. He won't go over an edge, his sensor stops and reverses him. I put him in the MB trunk, my pickup bed and the TD, he does a good job while I do something else. The latest models are suppose to be even better, hard to believe. Harry Harry On Dec 22, 2007 6:25 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, now you guys have me thinking. I'm going to have a poke around and see about running the pipes for one. Are all the pipes in the wall rigid, or can you get a flex pipe for routing through tricky bits in the walls and ceilings? Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last house we built in Wisconsin was over 3,000 sf and two stories. There was no way we were dragging a vacuum around the house, so we put in a central vac system. Definitely worth every penny, for a number of reasons. And yes, I too only had to empty the drum about once/twice a year. Nice. Had the builder for this house not been such a putz about us doing our own stuff to the house I would have put one in here as well. Dan --- Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably true. You'd want to have enough ports so that you'd never need to really yank on the hose to clean a room. In our little house we're fine with just one port. I try to be careful going room to room not to drag the hose against the corners. Still, you gotta try one, even if it ment repainting a couple spots (or installing plastic shielding) it'd be worth it. So much easier, so quiet. What happens with your vac if you accidentally grab a plastic grocery bag? With our central vac it means it'll go in the trash when I empty the cannister NEXT YEAR. Yeah I only need to empty it once a year... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:26:24 -0500 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was thinking to install one when I had the house rewired, but a few ppl told me the long hose can chew up the corners of the walls as you round them going from room to room? Ed 300E - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] Glow light - '90 300D 2.5
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:25:38 -0600 Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/20/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I also confirmed the wiring between amp and GPs was good using the WSM method. Sorry to ask a dumb question, but what is the WSM method? Yes, indeed, what is the WSM method? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
LWB250 wrote: Had the builder for this house not been such a putz about us doing our own stuff to the house I would have put one in here as well. Reminds me of something I read once. The client wanted sprayed in place foam insulation, and he knew the insulation contractor he wanted. The builder insisted on doing it himself with fiberglas. The client told him that he had already chosen the insulation and vender, but it was less certain who the general contractor would be. If the GC couldn't work with that insulator, he'd have to find another GC. Suddenly the GC became a lot more flexible on the insulation. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dodge Dakota won't get out of first gear
Curt Raymond wrote: Hi Peter, Its a '96 and Haynes seems to indicate its all electronically controlled. When the connector corroded on the vehicle speed sensor on a friend's Corolla, the car would grab 1st gear (at any speed) when the sensor cut out. If you stopped and restarted with the sensor dead, the computer was smart enough to guess what the speed should be from the tach signal and compensate. It shifted poorly without the VSS, but it was driveable and I think it even locked the converter. I'm not sure if your computer is that smart or if a VSS failure would leave you stuck in first. If you have an electronic speedo, it won't work without the VSS. One day my Horizon wouldn't start. There was no trouble code. In desperation, I unplugged sensors one at a time and tried to start it. My 3rd guess was the MAP sensor. It started and ran with the MAP unplugged, but every time I changed the throttle setting it stumbled until the O2 sensor corrected it. I drove it to the parts store and replaced the sensor, problem solved. Sometimes if a sensor goes bad and the computer believes the bad signal, you can force it into a backup mode by unplugging the bad sensor. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Got my W108 back today!
Do NOT get the spring kit! The car is too nice and deserves an OEM rear axle compensator. It won't even cost you that much more. Look for a good used one on ebay. On 12/22/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My theory is that, like every other nitrogen-charged springing device, it is reliable and related systems do not leak UNTIL the nitrogen charge dissipates, I do not believe that there is a nitrogen charge in there at all, sorry. That crap came later. I can't believe that a car with grease fittings had a non-serviceable active suspension component. I'd bet the hydropneumatic compensator is a bulletproof design as long as there's a gas charge... I think that the seals wear out, and then it stops working right. But if I actually had one I'd have more of an expert opinion. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
What happens with your vac if you accidentally grab a plastic grocery bag? One was on the floor while vacuuming, so I thought I'd try it. Just as yours did, ours gobbled it right up. I pulled off the cannister, and sure enough, there it was. The first time I used it, I wanted to check and see how much went into the cannister. It will be able to go quite a while between dumps. What brand is your central vac? Ours is an Electrolux Centralux system. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:07 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill wrote: And buy something nice for one of your MB's. How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to make myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it. They just finished filming some scenes for the upcoming film Brothers in the house across the street. The guy rolling up the 4/0 lighting power cables this morning said a 100' length was 85 pounds. I think he was talking about 1 conductor. BTW, if anyone sees the film, ours is the brick house across the street. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harrowing and or Hilarious driving stories
If you are driving any Mercedes diesel prior to 98, the brake will win if you press it at the same time as the accelerator. Even if you floor it - especially if you floor it. In the 99 E300, the electronics interpret a sudden brake effort and/or pressing both petals at once as a panic situation and immediately exert maximum braking force on all four wheels and electronically release the accelerator. It's quite something to experience. -Dave Walton On Dec 21, 2007 3:24 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: archer writes: It's only logical that with nearly all cars being automatic nowadays, the brake should be operated by the left foot and the accellerator by the right foot. Trying to both stop and go with one foot is what confuses people who aren't mechanically inclined. Using one foot forces you to RELEASE the throttle when you engage the brake. If you put the brake where the clutch is supposed to be, then people who are accustomed to a manual transmission would be punching the brake. If you can't stop and go with one foot you have no business behind the wheel of a car. -- (presumably Allen, but not signed) I disagree stongly. Your reaction times are much faster using 2 feet. Pete There have been a tests the prove otherwise - but I suspect that they were with people who were not accustom to driving two-footed. But that reaction time looses value if the driver forgets to release the fuel control pedal. It's not possible to make the task of driving idiot proof!! Nor do I think it is a unalienable right. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum
It is only a 20 foot hose. It does not really go that far, so most folks will have a few outlets space to allow full coverage. I have two upstairs to hit all the floors. For some reason the floor plan on the main floor is able to suffice with only one port, as does the down stairs. Still trying to figure out how that came to happen, but it does. clay On 22 Dec 2007, at 10:26, E M wrote: I was thinking to install one when I had the house rewired, but a few ppl told me the long hose can chew up the corners of the walls as you round them going from room to room? Ed 300E On 22/12/2007, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get central vac and never buy another vaccuum again. Even without a beater bar out central vac is the most effective vac I've ever used. The hose is way lighter than any portable. -Curt Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:41:12 -0500 From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] completely OT: Kirby vacuum To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Very heavy, my Wife would comment worse present I ever gave her. Our present Orack is about 5 pounds of very functioanl power. PeteOn Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:15:14 -0500, you wrote: Some guy is selling a Kirby vacuum on Columbus CL. Anything special about these? It just looks old to me. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
It seems than at Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:07 -0500, Mitch wrote: How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to make myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it. Like in pounds or kilograms? Or as in current capacity? Current capacity in a 60 deg C raceway is 195 amps. As to it's weight. It is 11.7 mm diameter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge So the area of the end of the wire is radius (11.7 / 2 = 5.85) squared (34.2225) times pi (3.14159) equals 107.51 mm^2 or 1.075 cm^2. Volume equals the area of the base times the height. 60 ft long wire = 1828.8 cm 1828.8 x 1.075 = 1966.2 cm^3 Copper's density at room temperature is 8.96 g per cm^3 1966.2 x 8.96 = 17617 g or 17 kg or 38.8 lbs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper Approximately. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
