[MBZ] CARFAX Anyone please?
WDBSK75F63F036879 Thanks John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Waffles
yes, and I prefer the lighter texture provided by the extra gluten. Luther Fmiser wrote: Luther wrote: Add a few table spoons of gluten to each loaf of soft white whole wheat bread. Makes GREAT WW bread. Have you ever had a loaf of bread made from hard white wheat flour? It really does make a loaf with better taste and top notch texture. -- Philip Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front end shake, tires/alignment/?
> Alex Chamberlain wrote: > Half OT: SWMBO's Subaru, usually trouble-free, suddenly > developed a nasty shake, not just palpable but visible in the > steering wheel. This starts around 60-65 mph, and also shows > up a bit when braking at slightly lower speeds. I looked > underneath for any obvious damage to wheels, tires, and > suspension components. Nothing looked out of the ordinary. Classic symptoms of a tire with cords separating. It's not quite round anymore... Balancing won't help. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Waffles
> Luther wrote: > Add a few table spoons of gluten to each loaf of soft white > whole wheat bread. Makes GREAT WW bread. Have you ever had a loaf of bread made from hard white wheat flour? It really does make a loaf with better taste and top notch texture. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] NCAA coaches and Guitar Hero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LWhV-Wr-RM :D -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Temptations...
Oh, my! When does Jill get back? Tomorrow. Maybe she won't notice it? What _I_ did notice is that the car, once warmed up, won't upshift out of one (or maybe two) if the throttle is down much. Seems fine when cold. Oh, and the three butt warmers we've tried so far (didn't sit in the passenger seat 'cause of no seat belt there.) work well. Mm. Happy butt. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Current Problem??
Jim - I measured .5 Ohm with a voltage drop of 2 volts, which means it's only 4A, not 60A. Might there be a problem with the relay? You're measuring different things. And your glow plugs, getting red hot as they do, don't stay at 0.5 ohms while operating. That's why the resistance value is nothing more than a rough guide. If you can measure the current directly that is the best. And, a normally-operating system won't lose more than X amount of voltage along the way from the battery to the plugs. Dunno what X is, but it ought to be 1/2 Volt or thereabouts. If you're actually measuring (reliably) 0.5 ohm from the relay to the glow plug (and not including the glow plug) you have some seriously bad wire there. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WASHER
for a long time kenmore was made by only whirlpool and now some are made by whirlpool and some by GE.? My experience is that the whirlpools have been good.? They basicly go out and bid them with various contracts.? You can check by looking at the innards. -Original Message- From: Bob Rentfro To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 9:13 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] WASHER Who makes the Kenmores? My family has always had good luck with Kenmores. I've persoally had three washers in 30 years of owning homes. They each are still going strong...they all are Kenmores. Bob R On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > I knew I could count on you Woger, you, as alway, are a big help and full > of useful information. > > relng...@aol.com wrote: > >> ...Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody >>> have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand >>> to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs >>> but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared >>> to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the >>> best in the past... >>> >>> Consumer Reports. Nobody else has the data. >> >> All you are going to get here is "I bought X and so far it hasn't >> caught fire or exploded or ground my overhauls to shreds. Too small a >> sample. >> >> RLE >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. ( >> http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/e62f8105/attachment.html >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: >> 270.11.32/2030 - Release Date: 03/30/09 08:40:00 >> >> > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 3 00E, 89 560SEL, > 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, > 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/b19cfcd8/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090331/bc552ded/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Waffles
OK Don wrote: > Exactly - and as Luther says, we add high gluten flour when making yeast > bread with it. It's about the only flour we use anymore. We are moving away from gluten. It makes a better bread without gluten - flavor-wise and taste. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
Usually a nut under the cap on top, but it varies, of course. Excess play in the bearings in the guts underneath is often the problem, and that's not always easy to fix. Peter On Mar 30, 2009, at 10:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: how the heck do you get the thing off in the first place? I have never looked at it really. Loren Faeth wrote: I think he is referring to the agitator. The impeller is in the water pump, but clothes should not get into the impeller. (although that happens, usually with a lightweight sock.) I agree. and extra washer or shim will most likely fix excess play in the agitator shaft. At 08:55 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: Hmmm, wonder if I can fix that? Peter Frederick wrote: The impeller has worked up on the bearings and letting things get underneath. One of the reasons to get a front loader. Peter Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
how the heck do you get the thing off in the first place? I have never looked at it really. Loren Faeth wrote: I think he is referring to the agitator. The impeller is in the water pump, but clothes should not get into the impeller. (although that happens, usually with a lightweight sock.) I agree. and extra washer or shim will most likely fix excess play in the agitator shaft. At 08:55 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: Hmmm, wonder if I can fix that? Peter Frederick wrote: The impeller has worked up on the bearings and letting things get underneath. One of the reasons to get a front loader. Peter Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Current Problem??
Something like 1/2V is more like normal, you're only drawing something like 60A (and yes, Ohm's law applies) while glowing. Jim - I measured .5 Ohm with a voltage drop of 2 volts, which means it's only 4A, not 60A. Might there be a problem with the relay? When were the valves last adjusted? Last week. Are the fuel filters clean and full of clear fuel? Yes, also changed last week Do you have fuel at the injectors when cranking? Confirmed An air leak in the fuel delivery line will make the engine very hard to start without a great deal of cranking. Getting good mist from injectors. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/186ca577/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115/116 Euro bumper - conversion possible?
I've had both - they don't swap. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114/115/116 Euro bumper - conversion possible? W115/114 post 73 had different front fender that are NOT direct replacements for the older ones -- grille is wider, there is a skirt on the bottom to match the "basher bumper" , and they don't attach at the rear bottom the same way. Don't know what the Euro fenders looked like, but I'd bet they simply stayed with the eariler type and don't interchange. Bumper support may or may not be the same -- certainly the post 73 cars have a four bolt attachment plate for the shock absorbers that are not present on the pre-73 cars. I seem to remember a single bolt in a bracket, but as I said, I'd have to crawl under my old 220 and my brother's 76 300D to tell you for sure. Peter On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:46 PM, David Bruckmann wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Is that the 114/5 or the W116 where you're talking about fenders > being different? > > D. > > >> -- >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:30:49 -0500 >> From: Peter Frederick >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114/115/116 Euro bumper - conversion possible? >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> >> Fender are different, and I think the frame horns are too. I'd not >> do it. >> >> Peter >> >> On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:17 AM, David Bruckmann wrote: >> >>> Gang, >>> >>> Can anyone confirm that is is possible to retrofit a W114/5/6 with >>> the 1973-and-earlier Euro bumpers, or are later cars condemned to >>> perpetual hideousness? >>> >>> D. >>> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2029 - Release Date: 3/29/2009 4:56 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2029 - Release Date: 3/29/2009 4:56 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Front end shake, tires/alignment/?
Get new tires -- likely you have a belt separating, and while the shop certainly should have noticed it, sometimes the tread won't show enough strange wear and doesn't "snake" enough when turned by hand to be obvious. Static balancing won't fix this, as the balance of the tire is changing with increasing rotational speed. A dynamic balance would, but I've not seen a real on the car dynamic balancer in ages. Also have them check for a loose wheel bearing or bad shock. The latter usually causes serious cupping pretty fast, though. Peter On Mar 30, 2009, at 10:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Half OT: SWMBO's Subaru, usually trouble-free, suddenly developed a nasty shake, not just palpable but visible in the steering wheel. This starts around 60-65 mph, and also shows up a bit when braking at slightly lower speeds. I looked underneath for any obvious damage to wheels, tires, and suspension components. Nothing looked out of the ordinary. We took the car to Friendly Local Tire/Brake/Suspension Shop, which charged $50 to balance all four wheels, and said that would help things, but also noted that one rear wheel was bent. I drove the car on the highway a few days later, and the symptoms weren't improved at all. If anything the shake is worse. I can't see any damage whatsoever to any of the wheels from either outside or underneath, although I haven't taken them off the car to see them better. When I've had a bent wheel before on other cars that was bad enough to affect handling, it's been obvious to the eye (either a visible flat spot in the rim, or less often a sort of warp such that the wheel wobbles visibly off the axis when the car is on a lift and the wheel is rotated by hand, like an out-of-true bicycle wheel). Even if a rear wheel really was bent, could that really cause such a bad vibration in the *front* end that you could feel it through the steering wheel? Isn't the standard test whether handling problems are wheel/tire related to rotate the tires front to back, precisely *because* an out-of-balance wheel or whatever is felt less when in the rear? I'm planning to go back to the tire shop and ask them to either give me back my $50 or do something to earn it. I'm thinking that they either couldn't or didn't balance the wheels properly, or couldn't diagnose the problem beyond that, and blamed (or just made up) the bent wheel as a cover. Any thoughts? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '98 Subaru Outback etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33:09 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody > have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? We have a top-loader. If it's up to Shirley, we will never have a front loader unless it's the ONLY thing available. She says she has several reasons, but I don't know what they are. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Temptations...
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:58:32 -0800 Jim Cathey wrote: > >> Local CL has a 1990 560SEL for $2195, looks just like our SDL > >> but shinier and probably not wrecked several times, > > > > Ah, the eternal holy grail of the cheap 126 that stays cheap after you > > buy it. Never gonna happen. Resist the siren's sweet call! > > The temptation has been removed. Largely by parking it in > my driveway. Oh, my! When does Jill get back? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115/116 Euro bumper - conversion possible?
W115/114 post 73 had different front fender that are NOT direct replacements for the older ones -- grille is wider, there is a skirt on the bottom to match the "basher bumper" , and they don't attach at the rear bottom the same way. Don't know what the Euro fenders looked like, but I'd bet they simply stayed with the eariler type and don't interchange. Bumper support may or may not be the same -- certainly the post 73 cars have a four bolt attachment plate for the shock absorbers that are not present on the pre-73 cars. I seem to remember a single bolt in a bracket, but as I said, I'd have to crawl under my old 220 and my brother's 76 300D to tell you for sure. Peter On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:46 PM, David Bruckmann wrote: Hi Peter, Is that the 114/5 or the W116 where you're talking about fenders being different? D. -- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:30:49 -0500 From: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114/115/116 Euro bumper - conversion possible? To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Fender are different, and I think the frame horns are too. I'd not do it. Peter On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:17 AM, David Bruckmann wrote: Gang, Can anyone confirm that is is possible to retrofit a W114/5/6 with the 1973-and-earlier Euro bumpers, or are later cars condemned to perpetual hideousness? D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
I think he is referring to the agitator. The impeller is in the water pump, but clothes should not get into the impeller. (although that happens, usually with a lightweight sock.) I agree. and extra washer or shim will most likely fix excess play in the agitator shaft. At 08:55 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: Hmmm, wonder if I can fix that? Peter Frederick wrote: The impeller has worked up on the bearings and letting things get underneath. One of the reasons to get a front loader. Peter Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115/116 Euro bumper - conversion possible?
Hi Peter, Is that the 114/5 or the W116 where you're talking about fenders being different? D. >-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:30:49 -0500 >From: Peter Frederick >Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114/115/116 Euro bumper - conversion possible? >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > >Fender are different, and I think the frame horns are too. I'd not >do it. > >Peter > >On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:17 AM, David Bruckmann wrote: > >> Gang, >> >> Can anyone confirm that is is possible to retrofit a W114/5/6 with >> the 1973-and-earlier Euro bumpers, or are later cars condemned to >> perpetual hideousness? >> >> D. >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Soo much effort
> ...I knew I could count on you Woger, you, as alway, are a big help and > full of useful information... > So, your local library doesn't carry Consumer Reports back issues or is that you are just too damned bone idle to drive down there. RLE ** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/56554f5c/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
AH! Grasshopper. Now you have discovered the secret of State Farm! At 08:33 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: Same here - (State Farm), though my boss is on the recieving end of a claim with one of their insured drivers, and they've been running him through the wringer to get compensated for his loss (a 2008 RAV4 with only 3500 miles - rearended while stopped). On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: > i've always been happy with state farm. been with them for 15 years now. > > > -- > OK Don > W124 Diesels > KD5NRO > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/7d00c94d/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Soo much effort
relng...@aol.com writes: >> ...I knew I could count on you Woger, you, as alway, are a big help and >> full of useful information... >> > So, your local library doesn't carry Consumer Reports back issues or > is that you are just too damned bone idle to drive down there. I don't put much stock in Consumer Reports. They are so full of themselves it's nauseating. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where'd Snook go?
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Donald Snook wrote: > Snook is English. It comes from the "Seven Oaks" family outside of London. > It was John Sevenoaks, then Snoaks, then Snook. Most of the Snooks I am > related to live in the Northeast - New Jersey mostly. > > Donald H. Snook Here I thought it had to do with billiards. EdB -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Front end shake, tires/alignment/?
Half OT: SWMBO's Subaru, usually trouble-free, suddenly developed a nasty shake, not just palpable but visible in the steering wheel. This starts around 60-65 mph, and also shows up a bit when braking at slightly lower speeds. I looked underneath for any obvious damage to wheels, tires, and suspension components. Nothing looked out of the ordinary. We took the car to Friendly Local Tire/Brake/Suspension Shop, which charged $50 to balance all four wheels, and said that would help things, but also noted that one rear wheel was bent. I drove the car on the highway a few days later, and the symptoms weren't improved at all. If anything the shake is worse. I can't see any damage whatsoever to any of the wheels from either outside or underneath, although I haven't taken them off the car to see them better. When I've had a bent wheel before on other cars that was bad enough to affect handling, it's been obvious to the eye (either a visible flat spot in the rim, or less often a sort of warp such that the wheel wobbles visibly off the axis when the car is on a lift and the wheel is rotated by hand, like an out-of-true bicycle wheel). Even if a rear wheel really was bent, could that really cause such a bad vibration in the *front* end that you could feel it through the steering wheel? Isn't the standard test whether handling problems are wheel/tire related to rotate the tires front to back, precisely *because* an out-of-balance wheel or whatever is felt less when in the rear? I'm planning to go back to the tire shop and ask them to either give me back my $50 or do something to earn it. I'm thinking that they either couldn't or didn't balance the wheels properly, or couldn't diagnose the problem beyond that, and blamed (or just made up) the bent wheel as a cover. Any thoughts? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '98 Subaru Outback etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler
You got it! I use one of the HF ones to power my oil sucker. Same as a 100 yr old carburetor. At 08:29 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: So, this "device" directs compressed air through a "venturi" arrangement to create suction/vacuum? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler > Well, it is an air operated vacuum pump. Basicaly Torrichelli's > law. HF sells an operated vac pump cheap. you will have to wander > down to the hardware store to get the plastic tubing and fittings. A > whole lot less than $160 for snappy. > > At 05:46 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: > >Has anybody used something like: > >http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=66765&group_I D=12500&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog > > > >Diesel Giant mentioned one and it seems to cover exactly why I hate > >cooling system service. I need to do both cars soon and this seems > >like a good investment. > > > >Seems like there ought to be a cheaper option than Snapon too... > > > >-Curt > > > > > > > > > >-- next part -- > >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >URL: > ><http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/e 8123f6f/attachment.html> > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > Loren Faeth > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] are these people on crack?
It's the story! Lots of photos! Exciting!! I want this car!!! 2009/3/30 Allan Streib > Good question...doesn't start, unverified mileage, rotted out trunk... > > Why do people use Flash containers for photos? Anyone who surfs with > plug-ins disabled (me) won't see them. > > Allan > > "Kaleb C. Striplin" writes: > > > Why is this thing bid up this high? > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-1975-Mercedes-Bentz-240D-One-Owner-59-689-Miles_W0QQitemZ120399245151QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > -- > 1983 300D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/23340bf2/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WASHER
Bob Rentfro writes: > Who makes the Kenmores? My family has always had good luck with > Kenmores. AFAIK Kenmore is usually Whirlpool, at least where washers and dryers are concerned. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] are these people on crack?
Good question...doesn't start, unverified mileage, rotted out trunk... Why do people use Flash containers for photos? Anyone who surfs with plug-ins disabled (me) won't see them. Allan "Kaleb C. Striplin" writes: > Why is this thing bid up this high? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-1975-Mercedes-Bentz-240D-One-Owner-59-689-Miles_W0QQitemZ120399245151QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler
I have, more than once It takes time to save money... Luther, master DIY Curt Raymond wrote: Have you ever tried to create any serious vacuum with a mityvac? Theres way to much volume in the cooling system, it'd take a billion years with a mityvac... -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:05:58 -0500 From: Luther Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <49d15056.5050...@gulseth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed What about a mityVac and a hose replacing the small overflow hose? Take a 3-4ft length of clear tubing and install a tee in the middle with the MityVac. Would that work? Luther Curt Raymond wrote: Has anybody used something like: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=66765&group_ID=12500&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog Diesel Giant mentioned one and it seems to cover exactly why I hate cooling system service. I need to do both cars soon and this seems like a good investment. Seems like there ought to be a cheaper option than Snapon too... -Curt -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WASHER
Who makes the Kenmores? My family has always had good luck with Kenmores. I've persoally had three washers in 30 years of owning homes. They each are still going strong...they all are Kenmores. Bob R On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > I knew I could count on you Woger, you, as alway, are a big help and full > of useful information. > > relng...@aol.com wrote: > >> ...Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody >>> have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand >>> to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs >>> but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared >>> to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the >>> best in the past... >>> >>> Consumer Reports. Nobody else has the data. >> >> All you are going to get here is "I bought X and so far it hasn't >> caught fire or exploded or ground my overhauls to shreds. Too small a >> sample. >> >> RLE >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. ( >> http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/e62f8105/attachment.html >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: >> 270.11.32/2030 - Release Date: 03/30/09 08:40:00 >> >> > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, > 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, > 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/b19cfcd8/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] are these people on crack?
Why is this thing bid up this high? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240D-1975-Mercedes-Bentz-240D-One-Owner-59-689-Miles_W0QQitemZ120399245151QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Temptations...
Local CL has a 1990 560SEL for $2195, looks just like our SDL but shinier and probably not wrecked several times, Ah, the eternal holy grail of the cheap 126 that stays cheap after you buy it. Never gonna happen. Resist the siren's sweet call! The temptation has been removed. Largely by parking it in my driveway. Looks good, has heated seats, reclining rear, etc. Needs some TLC, but nothing too bad. Is leaking oil out the SLS pump, and somewhere else that it can be burned off of a hot bit. Also won't upshift if you're into the throttle heavily. Otherwise drove well. AC probably non-functional. http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/SEL.html The thought was that this might be a quicker way to get Jill back into a large 126 than fixing up the SDL. (Which I still intend to do.) And/or making one ideal car out of two, if things need to go that way. (There would be State issues, though.) If I seem to disappear, it IS foul play. My body will be easy to find, in the trunk of this car and pushed/buried in our woods somewhere. OTOH it's a white stretch 126, maybe Jill will think it's the SDL and won't notice. She tends to put gasoline in the things anyway... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WASHER
I knew I could count on you Woger, you, as alway, are a big help and full of useful information. relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the best in the past... Consumer Reports. Nobody else has the data. All you are going to get here is "I bought X and so far it hasn't caught fire or exploded or ground my overhauls to shreds. Too small a sample. RLE ** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/e62f8105/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.32/2030 - Release Date: 03/30/09 08:40:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
Hmmm, wonder if I can fix that? Peter Frederick wrote: The impeller has worked up on the bearings and letting things get underneath. One of the reasons to get a front loader. Peter On Mar 30, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No, its not broken but it sometimes chews up cloths for some reason. Fmiser wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Why?? It's not broken is it? Oh. But if it's only ten years old, then it's really not old enough to be a good one - just like Mercedes -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 03/28/09 07:16:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.32/2030 - Release Date: 03/30/09 08:40:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wash?
> ...No, its not broken but it sometimes chews up clothes for some reason... > See my post. RLE > > ** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/f2804a94/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] top loading washer
How old is your washer? Every washer since the 60's has had a wifi connection direct to this list. Rich Thomas wrote: I'm gonna stop this list. Yesterday after these msgs about washers showed up mine crapped out, just after it filled with water. I don't think it has a wireless connection to my computer, how do it know? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WASHER
> ...Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody > have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand > to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs > but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared > to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the > best in the past... > Consumer Reports. Nobody else has the data. All you are going to get here is "I bought X and so far it hasn't caught fire or exploded or ground my overhauls to shreds. Too small a sample. RLE ** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/e62f8105/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: eia_lists...@eia.doe.gov [mailto:eia_lists...@eia.doe.gov] Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:09 PM To: weekdfpr...@tonoto.eia.doe.gov Subject: Today's Diesel Prices Register now for EIA's 2009 Energy Conference (April 7 and 8) with keynote address by Secretary Chu. Admission is free, but space is limited. http://www.eia.doe.gov/eia_conference_2009.html ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a "non-proportional" font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 090330 2.221 2.281 2.424 2.399 2.218 2.176 2.203 2.146 2.282 2.297 090323 2.090 2.166 2.403 2.315 2.081 2.038 2.060 2.036 2.150 2.129 090316 2.017 2.093 2.403 2.254 1.995 1.965 1.973 1.988 2.091 2.049 090309 2.045 2.122 2.434 2.287 2.022 1.988 2.006 2.017 2.120 2.075 090302 2.087 2.153 2.472 2.314 2.055 2.030 2.043 2.091 2.185 2.144 090223 2.130 2.199 2.514 2.368 2.098 2.071 2.074 2.158 2.238 2.219 090216 2.186 2.250 2.559 2.420 2.148 2.137 2.133 2.183 2.284 2.262 090209 2.219 2.296 2.576 2.450 2.205 2.173 2.156 2.211 2.292 2.269 090202 2.246 2.325 2.583 2.484 2.233 2.201 2.189 2.229 2.303 2.288 090126 2.268 2.344 2.595 2.490 2.258 2.232 2.202 2.243 2.319 2.296 090119 2.296 2.377 2.613 2.514 2.297 2.264 2.227 2.249 2.338 2.319 090112 2.314 2.395 2.621 2.516 2.322 2.289 2.244 2.235 2.353 2.334 090105 2.291 2.380 2.596 2.496 2.310 2.272 2.228 2.215 2.275 2.239 081229 2.327 2.423 2.638 2.536 2.355 2.314 2.264 2.250 2.273 2.241 081222 2.366 2.469 2.689 2.566 2.406 2.359 2.306 2.272 2.274 2.251 081215 2.422 2.534 2.740 2.642 2.469 2.406 2.378 2.350 2.303 2.292 081208 2.515 2.632 2.849 2.742 2.564 2.491 2.465 2.447 2.421 2.402 081201 2.615 2.735 2.954 2.875 2.655 2.578 2.556 2.577 2.553 2.538 081124 2.664 2.788 2.997 2.925 2.710 2.624 2.598 2.644 2.608 2.605 081117 2.809 2.924 3.148 3.072 2.840 2.764 2.745 2.822 2.768 2.754 081110 2.944 3.060 3.266 3.203 2.980 2.888 2.895 2.964 2.910 2.913 081103 3.088 3.219 3.420 3.369 3.137 3.018 3.033 3.157 3.052 3.057 081027 3.288 3.397 3.573 3.509 3.333 3.244 3.219 3.375 3.233 3.286 081020 3.482 3.553 3.729 3.633 3.503 3.447 3.453 3.555 3.433 3.460 081013 3.659 3.709 3.892 3.794 3.655 3.641 3.631 3.697 3.622 3.656 081006 3.875 3.928 4.036 3.978 3.896 3.858 3.843 3.886 3.847 3.869 080929 3.959 4.020 4.077 4.073 3.992 3.936 3.929 3.944 3.941 3.963 080922 3.958 4.021 4.110 4.081 3.987 3.931 3.924 3.964 3.943 3.951 080915 4.023 4.082 4.246 4.166 4.031 3.973 4.011 4.041 4.056 4.053 080908 4.059 4.100 4.312 4.246 4.018 4.015 4.015 4.105 4.156 4.185 080901 4.121 4.169 4.359 4.307 4.093 4.066 4.068 4.184 4.248 4.282 080825 4.145 4.199 4.382 4.360 4.113 4.073 4.098 4.227 4.286 4.359 080818 4.207 4.263 4.422 4.414 4.184 4.130 4.156 4.319 4.356 4.422 080811 4.353 4.420 4.584 4.563 4.344 4.267 4.299 4.473 4.511 4.607 080804 4.502 4.563 4.735 4.672 4.501 4.419 4.450 4.605 4.664 4.781 080728 4.603 4.664 4.806 4.772 4.604 4.518 4.570 4.657 4.766 4.869 080721 4.718 4.773 4.869 4.869 4.723 4.649 4.701 4.714 4.845 4.964 080714 4.764 4.822 4.889 4.912 4.777 4.698 4.737 4.718 4.909 5.026 080707 4.727 4.789 4.863 4.887 4.741 4.654 4.697 4.672 4.886 5.001 080630 4.645
Re: [MBZ] OT - Waffles
Exactly - and as Luther says, we add high gluten flour when making yeast bread with it. It's about the only flour we use anymore. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Fmiser wrote: > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > > WTF is "white whole wheat"? Doesn't that defeat the purpose? > > I think he's trying to say "whole wheat flour from white wheat > rather than red wheat". Most white wheat is soft (low gluten). > Most hard wheat (high gluten) is red. But it is possible to find > hard white wheat. > > High gluten flour makes better yeast breads. Low gluten does > fine in quick breads. > > My favorite yeast bread is made with the flour from hard white > wheat. > > -- Philip > -- OK Don W124 Diesels KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/9243b1e3/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
OK, what about Homesite Homeowner's Insurance.. Any experience? On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:33 PM, OK Don wrote: > Same here - (State Farm), though my boss is on the recieving end of a claim > with one of their insured drivers, and they've been running him through the > wringer to get compensated for his loss (a 2008 RAV4 with only 3500 miles - > rearended while stopped). > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: > > > i've always been happy with state farm. been with them for 15 years now. > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > W124 Diesels > > KD5NRO > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/7d00c94d/attachment.html > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/3dbcd017/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
Same here - (State Farm), though my boss is on the recieving end of a claim with one of their insured drivers, and they've been running him through the wringer to get compensated for his loss (a 2008 RAV4 with only 3500 miles - rearended while stopped). On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: > i've always been happy with state farm. been with them for 15 years now. > > > -- > OK Don > W124 Diesels > KD5NRO > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/7d00c94d/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where'd Snook go?
Well, that will teach y'all about trying to get a rise out of Snook. He's all business! On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Donald Snook wrote: > Ed. B. wrote: "However, Snook is not a name I've heard of outside of the > list. Maybe in Kansas, there is a Snook in every tree like some demented Dr. > Seuss book. But I'd never heard the name before." > > Snook is English. It comes from the "Seven Oaks" family outside of London. > It was John Sevenoaks, then Snoaks, then Snook. Most of the Snooks I am > related to live in the Northeast - New Jersey mostly. > > Donald H. Snook > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/1c88fa9c/attachment.html > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/61f9e95a/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Current Problem??
Yesterday I checked the voltage at the GPs. At the relay, the voltage was 12 volts, but at the GPs, it was 10 volts! Is a 2 volt drop across the GP wire bundle normal?? The GP wires all approx.1/2 Ohm resistance. What should it be? Could the current be low from the relay (thinking V = IR) ? You sure you saw 12V at the relay with the system glowing? A 2V drop is a bit excessive, otherwise. The usual diag trick is to put the + of the meter on the battery +, then probe successively downstream looking for a voltage jump on the way to the plugs. Something like 1/2V is more like normal, you're only drawing something like 60A (and yes, Ohm's law applies) while glowing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another weird W123 speedo question
speedometer. How would I ADVANCE the miles on the instrument to bring the odometer (currently reading 234,000 miles) up to 320,000? You can push the shaft (partially) out of the odometer and then put it back together with the gears rotated. Not for the faint of heart, but entirely do-able. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler
BTW, in 1970, I built a vacuum system for IBM in Research Triangle Park, NC, using this principle. The electric motor-operated vacuum system that I used originally burned out the motor brushes in 2 weeks. Meanwhile, they were dumping much excess compressed air overboard/outside. I quickly adapted only a small portion of their excess compressed air though a venturi to provide appropriate pickup vacuum at 10 punch machines that punched little holes in circuit cards. The vacuum system I built had no additional moving parts and collected the little pieces punched and trimmed from the cards. My system "ran" 24/7. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Wilton Strickland" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler > So, this "device" directs compressed air through a "venturi" arrangement to > create suction/vacuum? > > Wilton > > - Original Message - > From: "Loren Faeth" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:09 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler > > > > Well, it is an air operated vacuum pump. Basicaly Torrichelli's > > law. HF sells an operated vac pump cheap. you will have to wander > > down to the hardware store to get the plastic tubing and fittings. A > > whole lot less than $160 for snappy. > > > > At 05:46 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: > > >Has anybody used something like: > > > >http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=66765&group_I > D=12500&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog > > > > > >Diesel Giant mentioned one and it seems to cover exactly why I hate > > >cooling system service. I need to do both cars soon and this seems > > >like a good investment. > > > > > >Seems like there ought to be a cheaper option than Snapon too... > > > > > >-Curt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- next part -- > > >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > >URL: > > > ><http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/e > 8123f6f/attachment.html> > > >___ > > >http://www.okiebenz.com > > >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > Loren Faeth > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another weird W123 speedo question
You can take a chunk of broken speedo cable and a reversible electric drill. secure the speedo, put the square end in the speedo cable in the speedo, then chuck the round end in the drill. I think you go forward to advance the miles. Then you need to secure the drill. It must be an industrial grade drill. turn the drill on and check to see it is going in the right direction. You will see a mile or two click up in 10-20 minutes. Once you are sure it is going the right direction, go about your normal activities. Check daily for progress. I think it will take 3-7 days to get the miles you want. It might take a month. you might wear out a drill or two first. Seriously... I took 1000 miles of an odo once for tire warranty. I let the drill run overnight. The only good way to do this is either to try taking it apart yourself, or sending it into a speedo shop. A lot simpler and cheaper to make an odo change sheet that documents the mileage change and keep a record in your file and a copy in the glove box. At 06:27 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: 1) Install in vehicle, adjust speedometer as appropriate. 2) Drive 86000 miles. Alternatively, I'll bet you could get a conveniently-sized drill bit, set it up in a bench vise, and spin where the cable goes, if it's non-electric. Maybe insert a sacrificial plastic ring (pencil eraser?) to make sure you don't mar the plug. I've never tried it and probably never will, but that's my idea for the day. :) Not having dismantled a Benz speedometer, might it be possible to just replace the odometer with the old one? -Tim -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Another weird W123 speedo question I may obtain a used speedo to use in my 1983 300TD with the jittery speedometer. How would I ADVANCE the miles on the insturment to bring the odometer (currently reading 234,000 miles) up to 320,000? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/a4151e25/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler
So, this "device" directs compressed air through a "venturi" arrangement to create suction/vacuum? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler > Well, it is an air operated vacuum pump. Basicaly Torrichelli's > law. HF sells an operated vac pump cheap. you will have to wander > down to the hardware store to get the plastic tubing and fittings. A > whole lot less than $160 for snappy. > > At 05:46 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: > >Has anybody used something like: > >http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=66765&group_I D=12500&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog > > > >Diesel Giant mentioned one and it seems to cover exactly why I hate > >cooling system service. I need to do both cars soon and this seems > >like a good investment. > > > >Seems like there ought to be a cheaper option than Snapon too... > > > >-Curt > > > > > > > > > >-- next part -- > >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >URL: > ><http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/e 8123f6f/attachment.html> > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > Loren Faeth > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler
Well, it is an air operated vacuum pump. Basicaly Torrichelli's law. HF sells an operated vac pump cheap. you will have to wander down to the hardware store to get the plastic tubing and fittings. A whole lot less than $160 for snappy. At 05:46 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: Has anybody used something like: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=66765&group_ID=12500&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog Diesel Giant mentioned one and it seems to cover exactly why I hate cooling system service. I need to do both cars soon and this seems like a good investment. Seems like there ought to be a cheaper option than Snapon too... -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/e8123f6f/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler
Have you ever tried to create any serious vacuum with a mityvac? Theres way to much volume in the cooling system, it'd take a billion years with a mityvac... -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:05:58 -0500 From: Luther Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <49d15056.5050...@gulseth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed What about a mityVac and a hose replacing the small overflow hose? Take a 3-4ft length of clear tubing and install a tee in the middle with the MityVac. Would that work? Luther Curt Raymond wrote: > Has anybody used something like: > http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=66765&group_ID=12500&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog > > Diesel Giant mentioned one and it seems to cover exactly why I hate cooling system service. I need to do both cars soon and this seems like a good investment. > > Seems like there ought to be a cheaper option than Snapon too... > > -Curt -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/3ae78911/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another weird W123 speedo question
1) Install in vehicle, adjust speedometer as appropriate. 2) Drive 86000 miles. Alternatively, I'll bet you could get a conveniently-sized drill bit, set it up in a bench vise, and spin where the cable goes, if it's non-electric. Maybe insert a sacrificial plastic ring (pencil eraser?) to make sure you don't mar the plug. I've never tried it and probably never will, but that's my idea for the day. :) Not having dismantled a Benz speedometer, might it be possible to just replace the odometer with the old one? -Tim -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Another weird W123 speedo question I may obtain a used speedo to use in my 1983 300TD with the jittery speedometer. How would I ADVANCE the miles on the insturment to bring the odometer (currently reading 234,000 miles) up to 320,000? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/a4151e25/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
I have bought 2 Bosch dishwashers now, the things are so quiet you don't even hear them running, and do a great job. they are built in NC somewhere I think, maybe the washers too? I am thinking that the Bosch stuff must be pretty good. --R brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Very happy with my Bosch front loader washer/drier set purchased 8 yrs ago Works as well as new. Zero problems and easy to use. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Waffles
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/03/waffle_shoes_responding_to_a_need.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where'd Snook go?
Ed. B. wrote: "However, Snook is not a name I've heard of outside of the list. Maybe in Kansas, there is a Snook in every tree like some demented Dr. Seuss book. But I'd never heard the name before." Snook is English. It comes from the "Seven Oaks" family outside of London. It was John Sevenoaks, then Snoaks, then Snook. Most of the Snooks I am related to live in the Northeast - New Jersey mostly. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/1c88fa9c/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where'd Snook go?
Mitch wrote: "I found a 4.5L Caddy kit for him:" I'm here. I have been traveling a lot lately on a huge case I am working on. Trial is in Septemeber. Just been really busy and I have been gone since last week in Mississippi for my stepmother's 60th Birthday. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/11ecb077/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum coolant filler
What about a mityVac and a hose replacing the small overflow hose? Take a 3-4ft length of clear tubing and install a tee in the middle with the MityVac. Would that work? Luther Curt Raymond wrote: Has anybody used something like: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=66765&group_ID=12500&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog Diesel Giant mentioned one and it seems to cover exactly why I hate cooling system service. I need to do both cars soon and this seems like a good investment. Seems like there ought to be a cheaper option than Snapon too... -Curt -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another weird W123 speedo question
Take a drill with a small square bit (I think S2 is the correct size) and spin the speedometer/odometer until the mileage matches. Taking the odometer number shaft out and arranging the numbers manually is NOT recommended Luther, veteran 123 odometer adjuster andrew strasfogel wrote: I may obtain a used speedo to use in my 1983 300TD with the jittery speedometer. How would I ADVANCE the miles on the insturment to bring the odometer (currently reading 234,000 miles) up to 320,000? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Waffles
(try 2) Add a few table spoons of gluten to each loaf of soft white whole wheat bread. Makes GREAT WW bread. Luther Fmiser wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: WTF is "white whole wheat"? Doesn't that defeat the purpose? I think he's trying to say "whole wheat flour from white wheat rather than red wheat". Most white wheat is soft (low gluten). Most hard wheat (high gluten) is red. But it is possible to find hard white wheat. High gluten flour makes better yeast breads. Low gluten does fine in quick breads. My favorite yeast bread is made with the flour from hard white wheat. -- Philip -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Current Problem??
How fast does the engine spin (i.e. normal sound speed or look at the RPM gauge) when trying to start? What is the voltage across the battery when you are trying to start? This sounds like it could be a starter that's crapped out. Luther B Dike wrote: Hi All, Back again after a long absence...with a problem... My 85 300CD won't start. It runs great once it starts (w/ jumping, boosting, charger in place), but over the period of a week it got so it would not start period. I replaced batter, GPs, filters, adjusted valves, checked IP timing, etc. etc., basically everything I could without ripping the engine apart. Still no start. Yesterday I checked the voltage at the GPs. At the relay, the voltage was 12 volts, but at the GPs, it was 10 volts! Is a 2 volt drop across the GP wire bundle normal?? The GP wires all approx.1/2 Ohm resistance. What should it be? Could the current be low from the relay (thinking V = IR) ? Need some help here please. Thanks, B. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Waffles
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[MBZ] vacuum coolant filler
Has anybody used something like: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=66765&group_ID=12500&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog Diesel Giant mentioned one and it seems to cover exactly why I hate cooling system service. I need to do both cars soon and this seems like a good investment. Seems like there ought to be a cheaper option than Snapon too... -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/e8123f6f/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
Very happy with my Bosch front loader washer/drier set purchased 8 yrs ago Works as well as new. Zero problems and easy to use. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:29:35 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers I bought a Bosch at Lowes a couple years ago. Works great, although it suffers from the "stagnant water" syndrome. Wash whites as the first load with bleach takes care of that, else you tend to get clothes that smell like they've been in the washer for a couple days before you dried them. Uses MUCH less water. Takes longer though, the regular cycle is 60 min. Occasionally won't spin a very small load dry because it won't balance (hint: it hold a huge amount of laundry, don't wash two towels by themselves) Peter On Mar 29, 2009, at 11:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. > Anybody have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? > Best brand to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at > those Frigidairs but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG > and samsung as compared to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I > know Maytag has always been the best in the past. > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, > 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, > 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
The impeller has worked up on the bearings and letting things get underneath. One of the reasons to get a front loader. Peter On Mar 30, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No, its not broken but it sometimes chews up cloths for some reason. Fmiser wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Why?? It's not broken is it? Oh. But if it's only ten years old, then it's really not old enough to be a good one - just like Mercedes -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 03/28/09 07:16:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115/116 Euro bumper - conversion possible?
Fender are different, and I think the frame horns are too. I'd not do it. Peter On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:17 AM, David Bruckmann wrote: Gang, Can anyone confirm that is is possible to retrofit a W114/5/6 with the 1973-and-earlier Euro bumpers, or are later cars condemned to perpetual hideousness? D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
I bought a Bosch at Lowes a couple years ago. Works great, although it suffers from the "stagnant water" syndrome. Wash whites as the first load with bleach takes care of that, else you tend to get clothes that smell like they've been in the washer for a couple days before you dried them. Uses MUCH less water. Takes longer though, the regular cycle is 60 min. Occasionally won't spin a very small load dry because it won't balance (hint: it hold a huge amount of laundry, don't wash two towels by themselves) Peter On Mar 29, 2009, at 11:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the best in the past. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another weird W123 speedo question
I think once you have over 300k on a car, you become proud of the miles and would be disappointed if it showed less on the odometer. Tyler R A Bennell wrote: Uh, most folks are trying to go the other way. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: the end of an era
Today I take out of service the last machine I'm supporting with a floppy drive. It was a Win2k box, 700Mhz that has run my wife's office for 2 years. The hard drive dumped out leaving it in a reboot/bluescreen cycle. I managed to get all or nearly all the data off of it but not to save the OS. The replacement is a WinXP box, 2.4Ghz of spare parts from the basement... -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/798e2cbe/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
This is the market the Staber fills in modern washing machines. We got one cheap on ebay, and are really happy with it. It does leak if you put too much detergent (takes .5-1oz of the low-sud stuff) and the belt will jump off every now and again, but Staber doesn't rip you off on parts when you order from them, nor do they care if you open it up without special factory training. Takes all of 5 minutes to gain access to every part on the machine. Factory shop manuals for all components are free on staber.com. Our Staber is currently offline due to a stuck motor brush, and I haven't made it to a motor shop to get a new one. I will take Mitch's advice and check McMaster-Carr... (I can order a new motor from Staber, but I figure I have to exhaust the brush route first. :) Running, yes, a 30yo Maytag in its absence, which I conveniently paralleled into the plumbing when installing the Staber. Staber has about 2/3 the capacity of the "extra large" Maytag, we do one load per day (2 kids 2 adults) in either washer. I can get away with skipping a day or two a week on the Maytag, on the Staber I have to run extras if I miss one. The Staber did a better job getting water out; the dryer often runs 1.5-2 cycles on a Staber-sized Maytag load, and never ran a full cycle on a Staber load. All told it is a nice machine, since we got ours used I can't say how warranty support is but in the aftermarket legacy support is surprisingly good. I made no bones about my ebay buy and the support folks have always been willing to talk to me on the phone anyway, and seem to really like the product. Best, -Tim -Original Message- From: Loren Faeth Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers My gosh, the "old reliable" maytag top loading machine is the 123 240D 4 spd of washing machines. solid, and dependable and so simple you can fix anything yourself. Nothing on the market now is built so well. You don't even have to take anything apart to change the belt. Just tip the machine up to get to it. I bought a set about the time they brought out their "neptune" line (12-14 yrs ago?) The bearings went out on the dryer motor a year ago, but other than that, they are good as new. Cost me $100 for a new motor. >On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33 -0500, "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > > Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody > > have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand > > to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs > > but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared > > to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the > > best in the past. > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another weird W123 speedo question
Uh, most folks are trying to go the other way. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Another weird W123 speedo question I may obtain a used speedo to use in my 1983 300TD with the jittery speedometer. How would I ADVANCE the miles on the insturment to bring the odometer (currently reading 234,000 miles) up to 320,000? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/a4151e25/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another weird W123 speedo question
I may obtain a used speedo to use in my 1983 300TD with the jittery speedometer. How would I ADVANCE the miles on the insturment to bring the odometer (currently reading 234,000 miles) up to 320,000? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/a4151e25/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Current Problem??
B. When were the valves last adjusted? Are the fuel filters clean and full of clear fuel? Do you have fuel at the injectors when cranking? An air leak in the fuel delivery line will make the engine very hard to start without a great deal of cranking. Next. Fred Moir Lynn MA 85 300TD 87 190DT Bent 87 190DT White At 03:32 PM 3/30/2009, you wrote: Hi All, Back again after a long absence...with a problem... My 85 300CD won't start. It runs great once it starts (w/ jumping, boosting, charger in place), but over the period of a week it got so it would not start period. I replaced batter, GPs, filters, adjusted valves, checked IP timing, etc. etc., basically everything I could without ripping the engine apart. Still no start. Yesterday I checked the voltage at the GPs. At the relay, the voltage was 12 volts, but at the GPs, it was 10 volts! Is a 2 volt drop across the GP wire bundle normal?? The GP wires all approx.1/2 Ohm resistance. What should it be? Could the current be low from the relay (thinking V = IR) ? Need some help here please. Thanks, B. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Current Problem??
I can't help you with the electrical stuff, but did have one observation. How many miles on the engine? Not to be all gloom and doom, but I had a 300TD that started and ran great, but wouldn't start afterwards because the engine was toast. :( On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:32 PM, B Dike wrote: > Hi All, > > Back again after a long absence...with a problem... > > My 85 300CD won't start. It runs great once it starts (w/ jumping, > boosting, charger in place), but over the period of a week it got so it > would not start period. I replaced batter, GPs, filters, adjusted valves, > checked IP timing, etc. etc., basically everything I could without ripping > the engine apart. Still no start. > > Yesterday I checked the voltage at the GPs. At the relay, the voltage was > 12 volts, but at the GPs, it was 10 volts! Is a 2 volt drop across the GP > wire bundle normal?? The GP wires all approx.1/2 Ohm resistance. What > should it be? Could the current be low from the relay (thinking V = IR) ? > > Need some help here please. > > Thanks, > > B. > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/f7a13baa/attachment.html > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/b18d33af/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler vs. Gov't
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Luther wrote: > If a Chrysler-Fiat union cannot be completed, Washington plans to walk away, > leave Chrysler destined for a complete sell-off. No other money is > available. Aw man, I hope the marriage to Fiat works out. Engineeringwise, I think it's just what Chrysler needs---decent FWD platforms in a range of sizes. A couple of months ago the rumors were flying about them bringing the new 500 to the US ASAP: http://www.akkamsrazor.com/2009/01/22/chrysler-fiat-500/ http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6448398/news/chrysler-fast-tracking-fiat-500-to-north-america/index.html http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/26/fiat-chrysler-partnership-will-bring-7-new-models-to-u-s/ I will be the first in line to buy one if they badge the hot-rod Abarth version "Omni GLH." ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Glow Plug Current Problem??
Hi All, Back again after a long absence...with a problem... My 85 300CD won't start. It runs great once it starts (w/ jumping, boosting, charger in place), but over the period of a week it got so it would not start period. I replaced batter, GPs, filters, adjusted valves, checked IP timing, etc. etc., basically everything I could without ripping the engine apart. Still no start. Yesterday I checked the voltage at the GPs. At the relay, the voltage was 12 volts, but at the GPs, it was 10 volts! Is a 2 volt drop across the GP wire bundle normal?? The GP wires all approx.1/2 Ohm resistance. What should it be? Could the current be low from the relay (thinking V = IR) ? Need some help here please. Thanks, B. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/f7a13baa/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D)
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Re: [MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D)
hey Rusty! just getting back to this; was able to get under the car late last week and turn the wheels; got strange clicking Bad Noises from the right axle shaft. $159.99 seems to be quite a bit lower than most of the quotes i recall getting around town! just curious; are those German parts, or something else? cheers! e ru...@buymbparts.com wrote: Or... Get a New one from Rusty for only $159.95. A bargain at twice the price. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:20:43 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D) You probably have a torn boot on one of your rear axle shafts, which it turn causes the joint to go bad. The noise will come and go for a while till it finally comes for good. Just get a good used one and be done with it. ernest breakfield wrote: hi gang! time for an invitation to play one of our least favorite games; diagnosis of an intermittent noise via the internet. ;-* the suspect: Helga; an '85 300D California car, with just over 170K miles on it that i've had for the last 50K+ miles. scenario: trunk moderately full of Christmas goodies and luggage, cruising I5 at around 70+MPH on a trip downstate last week. about 3-4 hours out i started hearing a rhythmic noise that sounded at first like a tire thumping, but there was no associated vibration to be felt. this noise gradually became progressively louder; enough that i pulled off to see if there might be something stuck under the car flapping, or anything else visibly out of sorts, but peeping and grabbing and shaking things didn't turn up any likely culprits. after crawling around under the car for a bit and sitting on the side of the road, i decided to move the normally dependable beast to a better location, and lo! no noise whatsoever. we decided to see how close to our destination we could get and proceeded, only to not have the noise show back up in the next hour-plus; just enough time to get us over the Grapevine before dark. to make a long story short, this scenario repeated itself with varied frequency throughout the next several hundred miles; sometimes without any noises for hours, and other times coming back in as little as 40 miles. sometimes once the noise starts it sounds like a u-joint click-clunking as the vehicle comes to a slow, and other times it makes almost no noise at all while coming down to a stop. once the noise shows up it may or may not worsen under load, and may or may not worsen with speed. sometimes it goes away immediately as soon as the vehicle comes to a stop, and other times it seems to need to sit for a while. we ended up making a practice of finding many excuses to stop on the premise of giving our dog more places to sniff, and that seemed to keep the noise at bay somewhat. final note of concern was while driving a short errand around town last night, a sharp "Clank!" was heard followed immediately by something that sounded for all the world like a bolt falling out of place; yet nothing has been found to appear out of place yet by crawling around under the car. note of concern to me, this was the first time there have been serious noises that weren't rhythmic, and this showed up while the car had just started doing errands at sub-35 MPH. my impression is that this is something related to the driveline based on the rhythm, but i'm not sure what i might need to look for. driveline doesn't seem to have any undue play when twisted by hand, there aren't any tears on the axle boots, and there doesn't seem to be anything out of the ordinary underneath. i *hate* intermittent problems. i also hate problems that i can't repeat with the vehicle at rest, making it impossible to accurately determine where the noise(s) come from. any hints, tips, or clues as to what i might look for before i have to just start addressing the problem shotgunning-style by just replacing everything that moves down there? cheers! e -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/60dda7a0/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 12/29/2008 10:48 AM -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL
Re: [MBZ] value 300D
Chances of finding someone who knows anything on the phone are vanishingly small. I might be over that way this week sometime, I'll ask them what the deal is with the car. If you want to send me your phone # I can give you a ring from the yard, let you know what the deal is and how much, etc. --R (I tried to send this to you directly but it wouldn't go up to the mail server for some reason. Ralph W wrote: Rich, I would need to know if the engine is any good or if the head could be salvaged. Doesn't sound as if I'd have much luck dealing with this place long distance. It's for a pretty decent car but I don't really need it and it may not be worth the trouble fixing. May be best left for someone else. Where are you these days? Didn't you move to the Carolina's? Ralph On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: What do you need to know about it? Not sure they will know much about a particular car -- the only guy there half-way intelligent is "Terrance" who seems to be overwhelmed with dealing with all the other partial wits hanging around. --R Ralph W wrote: Rich, Can you get some additional details on that vehicle. I need a head or engine for my '90 300D otherwise Kaleb may be getting a good deal. Ralph W. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I was at a junkyard today stripping a 300SD, and they had one of those 300D 2.5T, doors gone but in pretty good shape otherwise, nice interior, 185k on the clock, engine still there, not sure why it was junked. --R OK Don wrote: I have tow of those cars - LOVE them! Mine have 275,000 and 350,000 miles. The paint and interiors on mine are good. I'd guess between $3,000 and $5,000, but might be lower now. Depends on what you'll offer, and what they will accept. Check the alignment of the belt tensioner and idler pulley, AC evaporator, and how it runs/drives in general. Records? On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM, wrote: I have a fellow who has a 92 300D with 2.5 with about 120k miles selling near me.? paint good but not great, expected for this car.? Would anyone care to put a value on it and what to avoid?? I have an interest in it and wanted sage advice.? Thanks -- OK Don W124 Diesels KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/e1eedd0d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/b2a3cb70/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/c7f1a629/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/bf21fdf3/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] top loading washer
I'm gonna stop this list. Yesterday after these msgs about washers showed up mine crapped out, just after it filled with water. I don't think it has a wireless connection to my computer, how do it know? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] value 300D
Rich, I would need to know if the engine is any good or if the head could be salvaged. Doesn't sound as if I'd have much luck dealing with this place long distance. It's for a pretty decent car but I don't really need it and it may not be worth the trouble fixing. May be best left for someone else. Where are you these days? Didn't you move to the Carolina's? Ralph On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > What do you need to know about it? Not sure they will know much about a > particular car -- the only guy there half-way intelligent is "Terrance" who > seems to be overwhelmed with dealing with all the other partial wits hanging > around. > > --R > > > Ralph W wrote: > >> Rich, >> Can you get some additional details on that vehicle. I need a head or >> engine >> for my '90 300D otherwise Kaleb may be getting a good deal. >> >> Ralph W. >> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Rich Thomas < >> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I was at a junkyard today stripping a 300SD, and they had one of those >>> 300D >>> 2.5T, doors gone but in pretty good shape otherwise, nice interior, 185k >>> on >>> the clock, engine still there, not sure why it was junked. >>> >>> --R >>> >>> >>> OK Don wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I have tow of those cars - LOVE them! Mine have 275,000 and 350,000 >>>> miles. >>>> The paint and interiors on mine are good. I'd guess between $3,000 and >>>> $5,000, but might be lower now. Depends on what you'll offer, and what >>>> they >>>> will accept. >>>> >>>> Check the alignment of the belt tensioner and idler pulley, AC >>>> evaporator, >>>> and how it runs/drives in general. Records? >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM, wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have a fellow who has a 92 300D with 2.5 with about 120k miles >>>>> selling >>>>> near me.? paint good but not great, expected for this car.? Would >>>>> anyone >>>>> care to put a value on it and what to avoid?? I have an interest in it >>>>> and >>>>> wanted sage advice.? Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> OK Don >>>>> W124 Diesels >>>>> KD5NRO >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- next part -- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>>> >>>> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/e1eedd0d/attachment.html >>>> ___ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- next part -- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> >>> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/b2a3cb70/attachment.html >>>___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/c7f1a629/attachment.html> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/88a57ba0/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Waffles
> andrew strasfogel wrote: > WTF is "white whole wheat"? Doesn't that defeat the purpose? I think he's trying to say "whole wheat flour from white wheat rather than red wheat". Most white wheat is soft (low gluten). Most hard wheat (high gluten) is red. But it is possible to find hard white wheat. High gluten flour makes better yeast breads. Low gluten does fine in quick breads. My favorite yeast bread is made with the flour from hard white wheat. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
The guy who runs it is bigtime lefty lib and FOO, but that might be a plus for you. --R Allan Streib wrote: Re: Progressive Insurance -- I have no experience with them. I know some people tell horror stories (probably true for any insurance company) but I've always had State Farm and have always been very satisfied. Yes we do have some claims experience with them and they were always fair. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 40, Issue 143
-Original Message- From: Tony Wirtel To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:08 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 40, Issue 143 > > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33:09 -0500 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" > Subject: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers > To: mercedes Mailing List > Message-ID: <49d04b85.4080...@striplin.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody > have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand > to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs > but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared > to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the > best in the past. > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, > 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, > 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, > http://www.okiebenz.com > Take what you can with a sample size of 1 but we've had a Frigidaire from Lowes for just over three years now. Only issue has been an occasional slight dribble from the front door w/really full load, which appears to be nearly universal for these puppies. I have a whirlpool duet (rather pricey) but have had 2 years and it is great! They do a better job on cleaning, supposedly cleans better and is easier on the materials (does not beat them up as much). I have not had a single repair. My uncle used to work for montgomery ward and his opinion was that Whirlpool made the best washers. cks I got the extended warranty b/c of the history of these being problems in the past and relatively new tech for the US manufacturers building them. Washer has paid for itself with reduced hot/warm water consumption, reduced demand from our well is a bonus. Much easier on clothes but these do retain some water and you'll likely get mold at some point esp. if the door is kept shut. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/09256208/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com I h -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/2339376c/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
oops- changing subject this time On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Tony Wirtel wrote: > > >> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33:09 -0500 >> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" >> Subject: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers >> To: mercedes Mailing List >> Message-ID: <49d04b85.4080...@striplin.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody >> have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand >> to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs >> but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared >> to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the >> best in the past. >> -- >> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK >> 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, >> 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, >> 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > > Take what you can with a sample size of 1 but we've had a Frigidaire from > Lowes for just over three years now. Only issue has been an occasional > slight dribble from the front door w/really full load, which appears to be > nearly universal for these puppies. > > I got the extended warranty b/c of the history of these being problems in > the past and relatively new tech for the US manufacturers building them. > Washer has paid for itself with reduced hot/warm water consumption, reduced > demand from our well is a bonus. Much easier on clothes but these do retain > some water and you'll likely get mold at some point esp. if the door is kept > shut. > > Agree that it won't last 30 years but it hasn't needed service, either. > > Tony Wirtel > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/8c13a898/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 40, Issue 143
> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33:09 -0500 > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" > Subject: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers > To: mercedes Mailing List > Message-ID: <49d04b85.4080...@striplin.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody > have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand > to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs > but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared > to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the > best in the past. > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, > 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, > 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, > http://www.okiebenz.com > Take what you can with a sample size of 1 but we've had a Frigidaire from Lowes for just over three years now. Only issue has been an occasional slight dribble from the front door w/really full load, which appears to be nearly universal for these puppies. I got the extended warranty b/c of the history of these being problems in the past and relatively new tech for the US manufacturers building them. Washer has paid for itself with reduced hot/warm water consumption, reduced demand from our well is a bonus. Much easier on clothes but these do retain some water and you'll likely get mold at some point esp. if the door is kept shut. Tony Wirtel -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/09256208/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
i've always been happy with state farm. been with them for 15 years now. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > Re: Progressive Insurance -- I have no experience with them. > > I know some people tell horror stories (probably true for any insurance > company) but I've always had State Farm and have always been very satisfied. > Yes we do have some claims experience with them and they were always fair. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/9f588dd8/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Mercedes to look at ( the saga continues )
Loren Faeth wrote: They are ok as long as you are happy to only get $500 for your Mercedes after a wreck Do they do stated value policies? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Mercedes to look at ( the saga continues )
andrew strasfogel wrote: Does anybody have any experience with Progressive auto insurance? They are much cheaper than anyone else and rank in the middle according to consumer reports. A friend of mine was generally satisfied with the hail damage claim on his F250 last summer. They wrote him a check and he used the money to have the rust repaired. (I didn't know it was hail damaged until he pointed it out to me, the dents weren't deep at all) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
My gosh, the "old reliable" maytag top loading machine is the 123 240D 4 spd of washing machines. solid, and dependable and so simple you can fix anything yourself. Nothing on the market now is built so well. You don't even have to take anything apart to change the belt. Just tip the machine up to get to it. I bought a set about the time they brought out their "neptune" line (12-14 yrs ago?) The bearings went out on the dryer motor a year ago, but other than that, they are good as new. Cost me $100 for a new motor. On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33 -0500, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody > have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand > to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs > but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared > to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the > best in the past. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Insurance
Re: Progressive Insurance -- I have no experience with them. I know some people tell horror stories (probably true for any insurance company) but I've always had State Farm and have always been very satisfied. Yes we do have some claims experience with them and they were always fair. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] value 300D
Yeah there were some there /i think. I took some pics with my phone camera, later on I will get them transferred over and send one along. There was at least one blue 300D, I did not look inside closely but I think it was blue. One or two others silver or blue or both. I could go by there, calling them would be worse than useless as they are kinda clueless. Don't ask why. --R / andrew strasfogel wrote: Rich, are there any W123 cars with a BLUE interior at your local junkyard? If so, do you have their ph. number? On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: I was at a junkyard today stripping a 300SD, and they had one of those 300D 2.5T, doors gone but in pretty good shape otherwise, nice interior, 185k on the clock, engine still there, not sure why it was junked. --R OK Don wrote: I have tow of those cars - LOVE them! Mine have 275,000 and 350,000 miles. The paint and interiors on mine are good. I'd guess between $3,000 and $5,000, but might be lower now. Depends on what you'll offer, and what they will accept. Check the alignment of the belt tensioner and idler pulley, AC evaporator, and how it runs/drives in general. Records? On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM, wrote: I have a fellow who has a 92 300D with 2.5 with about 120k miles selling near me.? paint good but not great, expected for this car.? Would anyone care to put a value on it and what to avoid?? I have an interest in it and wanted sage advice.? Thanks -- OK Don W124 Diesels KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/e1eedd0d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/b2a3cb70/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/c278b24a/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/11dea40e/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Mercedes to look at ( the saga continues )
They are ok as long as you are happy to only get $500 for your Mercedes after a wreck IPE: they don't pay fair value At 08:49 AM 3/30/2009, you wrote: Does anybody have any experience with Progressive auto insurance? They are much cheaper than anyone else and rank in the middle according to consumer reports. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Wilton Strickland wrote: > Tampa one says "tan leather." 'Sure looks like MB tex to me. 'Other one > says "blue leather." 'Bet it's MB tex, also. Too many sellers don't know > what they have, or like to claim "leather" just 'cause it's wearing a > three-pointed star. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Knoble" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:48 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Mercedes to look at ( the saga continues ) > > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Mercedes to look at ( the saga continues ) > > > > > > >A 190 is what I am replacing due to it being totaled. Have only found > one > > > 190 2.5 turbo, down outside of Charlestown SC. about 4250 dollars, and > am > > > not comfortable buy something I can not see or drive. > > > > Here are a couple. > > > > http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/1074990116.html > > > > http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/1095988627.html > > > > Rick Knoble > > '85 300 CD > > '87 190 DT > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/06da7307/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car talk
I won't take my 83 wagon just anywhere. There are two shops that I trust implicitly. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Loren Faeth wrote: > With very good reason > > At 03:32 PM 3/29/2009, you wrote: > >> Very few of their customers drive a Benz into the Magliotti >> repair shop. >> > > Loren Faeth > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/8e74fc6d/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
Our Maytag front loader likes to travel around the basement and eventually shook itself off its pedestal, stripping some bolts in the process. We plan on lifting it onto some non-slip coasters to stop the wanderlust.. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Allan Streib wrote: > > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:47 -0400, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > > > > And another lifetime washer: http://www.staber.com There's a company > > in Ohio called Staber that makes a horizontal axis top loading washer. > > All the bearings/belts are off the shelf stuff and it was designed to > > be user serviceable. Price is up in the Speed Queen range though. The > > people that live on mountaintops with no powerlines love them. They > > are very efficient, you can order special models that run on DC, and > > most of the parts can be ordered from McMaster-Carr and user > > installed. > > If you are considering a Staber be aware that the load capacity is > significantly less that most other horizontal/front-loader machines. That's > a big reason I didn't get one; family of 5 and we're doing at least 2 loads > a day, every day, in our big LG. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/f7b51050/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] value 300D
Rich, are there any W123 cars with a BLUE interior at your local junkyard? If so, do you have their ph. number? On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > I was at a junkyard today stripping a 300SD, and they had one of those 300D > 2.5T, doors gone but in pretty good shape otherwise, nice interior, 185k on > the clock, engine still there, not sure why it was junked. > > --R > > > OK Don wrote: > >> I have tow of those cars - LOVE them! Mine have 275,000 and 350,000 miles. >> The paint and interiors on mine are good. I'd guess between $3,000 and >> $5,000, but might be lower now. Depends on what you'll offer, and what >> they >> will accept. >> >> Check the alignment of the belt tensioner and idler pulley, AC evaporator, >> and how it runs/drives in general. Records? >> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM, wrote: >> >> >> >>> I have a fellow who has a 92 300D with 2.5 with about 120k miles selling >>> near me.? paint good but not great, expected for this car.? Would anyone >>> care to put a value on it and what to avoid?? I have an interest in it >>> and >>> wanted sage advice.? Thanks >>> >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> W124 Diesels >>> KD5NRO >>> >>> >>> >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/e1eedd0d/attachment.html >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090327/b2a3cb70/attachment.html> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/c278b24a/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Another Mercedes to look at ( the saga continues )
Does anybody have any experience with Progressive auto insurance? They are much cheaper than anyone else and rank in the middle according to consumer reports. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Wilton Strickland wrote: > Tampa one says "tan leather." 'Sure looks like MB tex to me. 'Other one > says "blue leather." 'Bet it's MB tex, also. Too many sellers don't know > what they have, or like to claim "leather" just 'cause it's wearing a > three-pointed star. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - > From: "Rick Knoble" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:48 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Mercedes to look at ( the saga continues ) > > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Mercedes to look at ( the saga continues ) > > > > > > >A 190 is what I am replacing due to it being totaled. Have only found > one > > > 190 2.5 turbo, down outside of Charlestown SC. about 4250 dollars, and > am > > > not comfortable buy something I can not see or drive. > > > > Here are a couple. > > > > http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/1074990116.html > > > > http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/1095988627.html > > > > Rick Knoble > > '85 300 CD > > '87 190 DT > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/06da7307/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:47 -0400, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > > And another lifetime washer: http://www.staber.com There's a company > in Ohio called Staber that makes a horizontal axis top loading washer. > All the bearings/belts are off the shelf stuff and it was designed to > be user serviceable. Price is up in the Speed Queen range though. The > people that live on mountaintops with no powerlines love them. They > are very efficient, you can order special models that run on DC, and > most of the parts can be ordered from McMaster-Carr and user > installed. If you are considering a Staber be aware that the load capacity is significantly less that most other horizontal/front-loader machines. That's a big reason I didn't get one; family of 5 and we're doing at least 2 loads a day, every day, in our big LG. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler vs. Gov't
In order to get the fiat money, they have to partner with the Fiat company. I like it. Allan On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:00 -0500, "Luther" wrote: > " > Frustrated administration officials said Chrysler cannot function as an > independent company under its current plan. They have given Chrysler a > 30-day window to complete a proposed partnership with Italian automaker > Fiat SpA, and will offer up to $6 billion to the companies if they can > negotiate a deal before time runs out. > > If a Chrysler-Fiat union cannot be completed, Washington plans to walk > away, leave Chrysler destined for a complete sell-off. No other money is > available. > " > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090330/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_autos > > > What's next? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car talk
With very good reason At 03:32 PM 3/29/2009, you wrote: Very few of their customers drive a Benz into the Magliotti repair shop. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers
I have an LG. Not the top-of-the-line with the steam cycle, a step or two below/cheaper than that one. It's nice, but it will leak if you get too much suds in it. You have to use low suds/high efficiency formulated detergent. Allan On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33 -0500, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody > have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand > to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs > but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared > to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the > best in the past. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Waffles
WTF is "white whole wheat"? Doesn't that defeat the purpose? On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:56 PM, OK Don wrote: > I finally had a mess of pancakes - white whole wheat, flax seed meal, soy > four, walnuts, yogurt/water/eggs; and blueberries! Yum. > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > > > I just had 2 fresh home made oat bran/flax seed/oatmeal/whole > > wheat/nut/fruit muffins with grapes, pina, apple, and dates. Gotta > run > > > > --R > > > > > > Wilton Strickland wrote: > > > >> 'Just had coupla waffles with some mighty good Charlotte, MI, maple > syrup. > >> > >> Wilton > >> > >> > >> -- > >> OK Don > >> W124 Diesels > >> KD5NRO > >> > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090329/0155fc9c/attachment.html > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/83debdd7/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] top loading washer
Hi Kaleb, We recently downsized to a smaller house. Among other priorities, we wanted to bring the laundry up to the first floor from the basement. So I converted our pantry into a pantry/laundry, installed the plumbing and electrics, and we purchased new, full-size stackable machines to save space: Whirlpool Duet front loading washer and dryer . The machines are quiet, energy efficient, and do a great job. She loves the machines... and I have had no problems and no complaints. (Our previous machine, a Kenmore purchased in 1979, stayed with the old house, and was still running fine, btw.) I agree with Barry's comments below re: water use and energy efficiency. I also agree that there seems to be a general consensus among the repairmen that Maytag is not the Gold Standard it once was. Some of their products were apparently made by Samsung. Whirlpool has bought them out, along with a few other manufacturers. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a few BMWs SE Connecticut Message: 4 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:33:09 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Subject: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers To: mercedes Mailing List Message-ID: <49d04b85.4080...@striplin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the best in the past. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:37:57 -0700 > From: "Barry Stark" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, front loading washers > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > Message-ID: <01c9b0f9$ae8a8a30$0b9f9e...@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Kaleb- > We have a Frigidaire Affinity ATFB6000 That I inherited when my Mom passed > away last year. I believe that my Mom had picked it as it was the 'Consumer > Reports' best buy at the time. I think that it is almost two years old now > and we have had no problems plus it seems to clean well. These new machines > work a bit different than the older ones as they tumble slowly one direction > then the other and the spin is quite fast. They no longer have a > "transmission" as the motor reverses direction and drives the tub with a > toothed belt. Because the spin is faster the clothes get much dryer so the > dryer has to work less to dry the clothes. It is very important to use only > the HE(High Efficiency)low sudsing detergent or the over sudsing of the > regular detergent will eventually gum up the works and cause problems. The > HE is a little difficult to find some places right now as it is fairly new > yet but in the not too distant future I believe it may be the norm for all > new machines. I think my wife gets it at COSTCO. The other words to the > wise, that I learned by reading up on the things, is to be sure and leave > the door ajar till things dry out in the tub or you may end up with some > mold. I don't know if you have a water shortage problem where you are but we > do here in So. Calif. And these machines use very little water compared to > the top loaders and I believe they use less electricity as well. From what I > have heard the new Maytags are not the same as the old since they were > bought out by someone but that's just what I've heard. The best way to find > out about reliability is if you have an indy appliance repairman that you > can trust to give some unbiased informed about reliability and maintenance > costs. > > Barry > > Thinking about replacing my 10 year old top loading Maytag. Anybody > have one of these front loaders, or have shopped for them? Best brand > to look at? Ones to stay away from. Was looking at those Frigidairs > but they seem kind of flimsy. Wondered about LG and samsung as compared > to say, a Maytag which I am used to. I know Maytag has always been the > best in the past. _ Internet Explorer 8 – Get your Hotmail Accelerated. Download free! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090330/55ef2174/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com