[MBZ] O/T PTO Electric/MAgnetic Clutch
The Electo-Magnetic clutch on my Husqvarna tractor is acting up. It will engage once when cold and run fine for about an hour (As long as it takes to cut my lawn). If I disengage when hot, it will not reengage. It's probably FUBAR. Cost it about $150, Rusty doesn't sell them ;-( Does this learned group have any feedback? -- Pete Arnold This e-mail from Peter Arnold and any attachments to it are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be uncensored. If you have received it in error please consult your religious adviser. If you are not the intended recipient, why have you read this far? Please do not staple, spindle or otherwise mutilate this document, doing so may damage your screen. All communications may be subject to interception or monitoring by the men in black helicopters for security purposes. Please rely on your own swine flu virus checking as the sender cannot accept any liability for any damage arising from any bug or virus infection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 parking brakes and drive shaft
Hi Don, How did the brake shoes look? I'd read that since they are only used when the car is stationary (hopefully) they tend to last a very long time - I'm curious because my '91 300D has too much emergency brake travel that needs to be adjusting. Hopefully it's not the shoes. TIA - LarryT 91 300D 2.5 OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 124 parking brakes and drive shaft I took the day off - to get ready for the holiday weekend ;-) and decided it was time to install the new parking brake shoes on the '92 300D 2.5T. One shot of PB Blaster was required on each side to get the disk off of the hub, then it was the usual fun with brake springs time. Being behind the hub, and small than the usual brake spring tool can handle made it a bit more interesting, though once I got one side done, the other side was much easier. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that the kit from Rusty included new bolts for mounting the calipers! I also discovered while under the car that the front flex disk has a 1/4 of play, with the steel inserts moving laterally as I turned the drive shaft, and the center bearing support rubber is torn in several places. I'm guessing that one or both of these conditions are causing the occasional rapid hammering noise that I hear/feel sometimes during acceleration or cornering. The order placed with Rusty shouild result in another weekend of dirt in my eyes (need to remember to wear goggles BEFORE I slide under the car). -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090904/f52e8a08/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T PTO Electric/MAgnetic Clutch
If I disengage when hot, it will not reengage. Does it have a shim-adjustable magnetic gap? Measure the operating current when cold, and when hot. Measure the inductance, too. (OK, the latter is not particularly easy.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
Hi Allan, You wrote Only lasted 2 years How did they fail? I'm rebuilding a pair of front W123 calipers right now and they are very simple. A metal cover that pries off, rubber seal and rubber o-ring - put new ones in (after coating with brake fluid) and everything falls into place. Will do the passenger side today which will hopefully be as easy as the other was. I have a pair of 124 calipers needing a rebuild. I shoud have ordered kits for them when I bought the 123 kits and pads! I wish Rustys site had a Wish List that lasted even when we log out! I often have a few small things to order the next time I need something big but always forget about them! Later ya'll - LarryT '78 240D/'91 300D 2.5T OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Perhaps get a rebuild kit for the old caliper from Rusty - now that you've bought some time. It might be better than the one you bought. It's not that hard to rebuild one. There's a 50 core refund I'd give up. Plus the cost of the kit. Not worth it. They were rebuilds too. Only lasted 2 years. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Killing a Mercedes
Excellent info, fact-based decision making is the way to go. In my opinion, used car prices are still depressed, so I don't think this C-F-C program had much of an impact at all on the used car market. Sure, some useful running cars were destroyed, and I think this was a form of corporate welfare and government market meddling, which I oppose in general, but I think that the objective of the program was largely met and the biggest problem is the dealers who haven't been paid yet. 20+ years ago a similar idea was floated to the CARB (CA Air Resources Board) that they would get more bang for their buck with a similar program in CA to reduce vehicle emissions, but they never took action on it. The idea was to offer a government voucher for trading in older cars that didn't have catalytic converters and/or other pollution controls, and then destroy the older cars. The math worked out beautifully but the CARB seemed to be more interested in other political objectives instead of achieving concrete results. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 314k miles Charleston SC -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of tyler Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 7:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Killing a Mercedes There were about 0.7 million vehicles destroyed under the program, out of about 250 million vehicles on the road in the USA- so on average one out of about 350 used vehicles were scrapped. I am no fan of the program, but I don't think it lasted long enough to have a huge impact on the used car market. I hope they don't restart the program, however as I think the economic and environmental benefits of it were dubious. Tyler Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: This whole program is really going to hurt the lower income people who buy these cheap cars. Donald Snook wrote: Wilton wrote: Now THAT'S a pity! BTW, did he say it has 115 kmi or 150 kmi? Either way, not much at all. That makes my stomach hurt to watch that. What an enormous waste! Even if that was some crappy car that I hated, it would be a shame to do that to a car that runs and could provide cheap transportation to someone that needed it. Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/2009 0910/f9f84d43/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL FIND OF THE DAY $2K '79 450SL
Tim, Thanks for the list, that is a keeper. Rich and I checked out the '79 SL yesterday, total rust bucket with rotted and moldy interior, no radio, didn't establish anything beyond that. Owner never showed up with the keys, so we went to lunch. There was a '72 that went for $4500 or somesuch last fall that I really regret missing. I really like the bumpers and headlights on the '72 model much better than the later stuff, and that year had the most power of all the SLs in the 70's and I think into the 80's. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL FIND OF THE DAY $2K '79 450SL There's a $1500 '82 380SL on the Charlotte CL (Lincolnton NC), looks nice but the fellow replaced the EFI with a carb. There was a $1K '76 450SL in Salisbury with modest rust and a good engine. Took forever for the guy to get rid of that one, not sure if he sold it or got tired of listing it, I posted on it a month or two ago. There's currently a $500 '72 450SL in King. Parts car, would be a total rebuild. There's a $2K '81 280SL in Chapel Hill, manual I think, that runs; that one made it onto my personal short list. There's a fellow in Mount Holly that wants to (partial?) trade an MB diesel for his running '76 450SL, asking $3200 otherwise; that one is on my list too. Which reminds me I need to get back to him... Oddly, none of these cars is more than a couple hours from me, but the locals on the Raleigh CL want 3-5 times as much, except the $2.5K engine needs work jumped time 380 out in BFE. Crazy. Anyway, that to say they seem to be crawling out of the woodwork this fall, IMO a pretty strong buyer's market. You just have to convince the seller of it. :) By way of checklists, I liked the following link for brevity: http://web.archive.org/web/20050920084427/http://hometown.aol.com/dquinn5735/buylist.html There are others but this one, along with the model year differences from Jim Cathey's old post (mail-archive.com), was the most immediately useful to me. Best, -Tim On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Jim, that is the name I was looking for. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 6:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL FIND OF THE DAY $2K '79 450SL The Evil Chrysler ACC From Hell: hasn't someone engineered a better solution, a bit pricey for the initial cost but more reliable/less expensive over the long term? Unwired tools. Yes. Also, doesn't this year have the cat. converters under the hood, which cooks all the rubber bits? No. That was only 2 years, and 76 was one of them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T PTO Electric/MAgnetic Clutch
No experience here, never stopped me before. Not accessible when hot, buried under mower. I guess I can remove it, measure gap. Apply 12v ans see if gap closes. Try to adjust it to close more without dragging when released. Maybe Kalib would give me $50 for the mower? -- Peter T. Arnold P.M. x3 All Mail to: Secretary Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 A.F. A.M. 34 Country Club Drive Windsor, CT 06095 - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:29:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T PTO Electric/MAgnetic Clutch If I disengage when hot, it will not reengage. Does it have a shim-adjustable magnetic gap? Measure the operating current when cold, and when hot. Measure the inductance, too. (OK, the latter is not particularly easy.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/1b591620/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange
If you want a easy to access place to list used parts, Yahoo Groups is pretty easy to set up - I can create a group for OkieBenz if needed - the only downside is people need to subscribe to a Group before gaining full access but the groups offer lots of flexibility in what can be posted. A folder for parts available would be super easy - if you see something you want, just email the owner and make a deal. Then the owner removes the sold part from the group folder and that takes care of maintenance. It would also be available for non-okie members to join also so you may end up with a larger audience for selling parts. Let me know if you want me to create a Yahoo Group for a parts sales tool. Someone would need to monitor things to make sure it stays accurate and doesn't get hit with spam - I can monitor who joins the group is you wish - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Parts exchange You can always post what you have for sale to the list. As for a message board sort or deal, that would be great as well, and can be added to Okiebenz. I wonder if my couple of free labor web guys might know how to do that, or anybody else for that matter. Loren Faeth wrote: I have been cleaning house, garage, and so forth, and I am amazed at the pile of unused, new parts I have accumulated, along with used stuff to fit 110, 111,108, 107. 115, 123, 124 and 126 cars. Fleabay is worthless Craigslist is now spamlist, you get at least 10 spams for every real reply you get, and it is hard to pick out the real replies. Nobody looks at ioffer and other would-be fleabay competitors There is a lot of talent on the list. Others on the list surely have the same type of stuff laying around. And then there is Kaleb. Here is my proposal: We need a free place to list new and used parts for sale, open to anyone to buy, but only for list members (or ?) to sell Pay by paypal. It is simple (yeah, I know, it is fleabay, but it is simple and it works) If it gets really successful, we could also add an auction format, so that when getting rid of something is more important than price, we could list it and let the fun begin. Anybody interested? Anybody willing to work on the website? I could host it, or perhaps Kaleb might want to, or someone else can. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.82/2351 - Release Date: 09/07/09 06:40:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090908/eb864a7a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T PTO Electric/MAgnetic Clutch
Sounds like an excellent excuse to go have a nice cold one and wait for it to get happy again. --R Peter T. Arnold wrote: The Electo-Magnetic clutch on my Husqvarna tractor is acting up. It will engage once when cold and run fine for about an hour (As long as it takes to cut my lawn). If I disengage when hot, it will not reengage. It's probably FUBAR. Cost it about $150, Rusty doesn't sell them ;-( Does this learned group have any feedback? -- Pete Arnold This e-mail from Peter Arnold and any attachments to it are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be uncensored. If you have received it in error please consult your religious adviser. If you are not the intended recipient, why have you read this far? Please do not staple, spindle or otherwise mutilate this document, doing so may damage your screen. All communications may be subject to interception or monitoring by the men in black helicopters for security purposes. Please rely on your own swine flu virus checking as the sender cannot accept any liability for any damage arising from any bug or virus infection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sunhil
Remember the list member Sunhil? What was his last name? I am working on a case (which I can't give you details about) and there is a person involved named Sunhil. Just wondering, Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/4b97ff97/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Undercutting Kleb
Mercedes $450 - $450 (charleston) Date: 2009-09-11, 8:13AM EDT Reply to: sale-5g7r5-1368859...@craigslist.org mailto:sale-5g7r5-1368859...@craigslist.org?subject=mercedes%20%24450%20-%20%24450%20%28charleston%29body=%0A%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcharleston.craigslist.org%2Fcto%2F1368859269.html%0A ^[Errors when replying to ads? http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/replying_to_posts] this is a total steal at $450. 1988 300e class mercedes-benz. not running, fixable, body in good con. interior good to.$450 cash and its yours.contact Lisa @ 225-6859 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1368859269.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/1bdedc4c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Benz invoice
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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
Pistons rusted and siezed in the bore. Won't move. It was the inside piston on all four calipers. Never seen anything like it. Allan On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:31 -0400, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Allan, You wrote Only lasted 2 years How did they fail? I'm rebuilding a pair of front W123 calipers right now and they are very simple. A metal cover that pries off, rubber seal and rubber o-ring - put new ones in (after coating with brake fluid) and everything falls into place. Will do the passenger side today which will hopefully be as easy as the other was. I have a pair of 124 calipers needing a rebuild. I shoud have ordered kits for them when I bought the 123 kits and pads! I wish Rustys site had a Wish List that lasted even when we log out! I often have a few small things to order the next time I need something big but always forget about them! Later ya'll - LarryT '78 240D/'91 300D 2.5T OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunhil
Sunil Hari Donald Snook wrote: Remember the list member Sunhil? What was his last name? I am working on a case (which I can't give you details about) and there is a person involved named Sunhil. Just wondering, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunhil
you are alive? John Robbins wrote: Sunil Hari Donald Snook wrote: Remember the list member Sunhil? What was his last name? I am working on a case (which I can't give you details about) and there is a person involved named Sunhil. Just wondering, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunhil
Sunil Hari Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: [MBZ] Sunhil Remember the list member Sunhil? What was his last name? I am working on a case (which I can't give you details about) and there is a person involved named Sunhil. Just wondering, Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/4b97ff97/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sunhil
Sunil Hari, now a Navy doctor at Bethesda Naval Hospital, I think; 'may have been to Iraq or Afghanistan by now, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: [MBZ] Sunhil Remember the list member Sunhil? What was his last name? I am working on a case (which I can't give you details about) and there is a person involved named Sunhil. Just wondering, Donald H. Snook -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/4b97ff97/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Monkey-Masked Speeding Driver in Phoenix IgnoresTickets
He just has a blatant disregard for public safety, Lt. Steve Harrison told the station. ---Maybe he just has a blatant disregard for automated road tax systems? I've never seen a cop obey a speed limit, unless congestion forced him to. Does that mean all cops have a blatant disregard for public safety? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Becker Europa
Hi All, I'm trying to fix the Becker Europa in the 74 240D. I see a standard car radio antenna jack, but the FM works so poorly that I wonder if there is a separate jack for a FM antenna. Is this the case? Thanks, Bruce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/03362c5d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Becker Europa
Nope. Welcome to the limited signal capturing capability of the early solid state Beckers. They suck. Dan --- On Fri, 9/11/09, B Dike bdi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: B Dike bdi...@yahoo.com Subject: [MBZ] Becker Europa To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 5:19 PM Hi All, I'm trying to fix the Becker Europa in the 74 240D. I see a standard car radio antenna jack, but the FM works so poorly that I wonder if there is a separate jack for a FM antenna. Is this the case? Thanks, Bruce -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/03362c5d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Flammables and Tasers - Bad Combination
http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/article/20090820/NEWS01/908200303 Boom. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Murdering BIL?
Kaleb, what's the latest with the murdering BIL, and how are the children? Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/6f4a6535/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [Fwd:] Clunker math]
from another list Original Message Subject:[db] Clunker math Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:48:49 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john dieselj...@comcast.net To: undisclosed-recipients: ; got this info from a friend... A vehicle at 15 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 800 gallons a year of gasoline. A vehicle at 25 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 480 gallons a year. So, the average clunker transaction will reduce US gasoline consumption by 320 gallons per year. They claim 700,000 vehicles so that is 224 million gallons/year. That equates to a bit over 5 million barrels of oil. 5 million barrels of oil is about 1/4 of one day's US consumption. And, 5 million barrels of oil costs about $350 million dollars at $75/bbl. So, tax payers contributed $3 billion to save $350 million. And 80% of the auto profits went to foreign countries. just the facts (as they were passed on to me...) - does anyone in leadership do the math before they make decisions? john also some stats on 9/11: http://wagoneers.com/MISC/History/11_September_2001-the-loss_the-cost.txt - Snohomish, Washington -o|o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/a418e098/attachment.html -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/a418e098/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Murdering BIL?
he is still in jail as far as I know, they kids are still in CA with their grandparents. WILTON wrote: Kaleb, what's the latest with the murdering BIL, and how are the children? Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/6f4a6535/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.91/2363 - Release Date: 09/11/09 09:15:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/a58fb540/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 parking brakes and drive shaft
One was worn down to the metal backing, all of them were severly cracked. I'm guessing that the car was driven with them one at some time in it's past. There are adjustments both at the shoes, like any other drum brake system, and at the cable Y junction - I left the shoe adjusters collapsed all the way in , and made a minor adjustment at the Y to get 4 clicks of the pedal to activate the brakes. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:11 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Don, How did the brake shoes look? I'd read that since they are only used when the car is stationary (hopefully) they tend to last a very long time - I'm curious because my '91 300D has too much emergency brake travel that needs to be adjusting. Hopefully it's not the shoes. -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/3efeb6d8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd:] Clunker math]
Not only that, but with the new car and better mpg, the owner will probably drive more. So even the already negligible savings in oil will be even less. Cash for Clunkers was not about saving oil though. Not really. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: from another list Original Message Subject: [db] Clunker math Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:48:49 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john dieselj...@comcast.net To: undisclosed-recipients: ; got this info from a friend... A vehicle at 15 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 800 gallons a year of gasoline. A vehicle at 25 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 480 gallons a year. So, the average clunker transaction will reduce US gasoline consumption by 320 gallons per year. They claim 700,000 vehicles so that is 224 million gallons/year. That equates to a bit over 5 million barrels of oil. 5 million barrels of oil is about 1/4 of one day's US consumption. And, 5 million barrels of oil costs about $350 million dollars at $75/bbl. So, tax payers contributed $3 billion to save $350 million. And 80% of the auto profits went to foreign countries. just the facts (as they were passed on to me...) - does anyone in leadership do the math before they make decisions? john also some stats on 9/11: http://wagoneers.com/MISC/History/11_September_2001-the-loss_the-cost.txt - Snohomish, Washington -o|o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Benz invoice
Cute! On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/3758620e/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Benz invoice Type: image/jpeg Size: 357067 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/3758620e/attachment.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/4a6107c3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
That's what post-it notes on the side of the monitor are for On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:31 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I wish Rustys site had a Wish List that lasted even when we log out! I often have a few small things to order the next time I need something big but always forget about them! -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/7c3082a8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Monkey-Masked Speeding Driver in Phoenix IgnoresTickets
Yes! On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I've never seen a cop obey a speed limit, unless congestion forced him to. Does that mean all cops have a blatant disregard for public safety? Mitch. -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/d77843c2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd:] Clunker math]
Right - it never was about oil, or gas - it was about UAW and dealer jobs and propping up our auto companies. The better fuel economy aspect was an after-thought. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Cash for Clunkers was not about saving oil though. Not really. Allan -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/895938af/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
Hmmm I haven't seen those - are they on Rusty's site or are you saying I should put post-its on my screen? Unfortunately, they might block the view of the White-Out. ;-) LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare That's what post-it notes on the side of the monitor are for On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:31 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I wish Rustys site had a Wish List that lasted even when we log out! I often have a few small things to order the next time I need something big but always forget about them! -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/7c3082a8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Monkey-Masked Speeding Driver in PhoenixIgnoresTickets
The law - at least in Va., is they are supposed to obey all traffic laws unless their blue/red lights are on. Every once in a while one will get in trouble for speeding and those in power will come out with a statement telling everyone that they'll obey from now on. ;-) LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Monkey-Masked Speeding Driver in PhoenixIgnoresTickets Yes! On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I've never seen a cop obey a speed limit, unless congestion forced him to. Does that mean all cops have a blatant disregard for public safety? Mitch. -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/d77843c2/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Monkey-Masked Speeding Driver in PhoenixIgnoresTickets
Wev have the same law, but it's routinely ignored. I've never heard of a cop getting in trouble for speeding without the lights on, and I regularly see it. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:40 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: The law - at least in Va., is they are supposed to obey all traffic laws unless their blue/red lights are on. Every once in a while one will get in trouble for speeding and those in power will come out with a statement telling everyone that they'll obey from now on. ;-) LarryT -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/99d38197/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
i'm very careful when i mess with rebuilt calipers and generally don't like to buy or sell them. back in the day, before benzbin and, particularly, autohausaz walmarted a receptive public with cheap indian and chinese crap, rusty and i wouldn't even sell rebuilt calipers unless our arms were twisted severely. today, however, there is no way to sell a brand new ate unit for $200 when the garbage merchants have convinced that public that some absolute garbage rebuilt in a sweat shop by an 8 year old chinese kid is the same thing for $40 the public has absolutely rejected quality in favor of cheap. it puts us in the troubling position of either selling the junk you people absolutely and unequivocally insist on despite our personal beliefs or simply closing up shop and finding another livelihood. it's not too late for y'all to repent your evil ways and prevent the total annihilation of quality. not that i'm really hopeful that any of you will, but it's really not too late. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Perhaps get a rebuild kit for the old caliper from Rusty - now that you've bought some time. It might be better than the one you bought. It's not that hard to rebuild one. There's a 50 core refund I'd give up. Plus the cost of the kit. Not worth it. They were rebuilds too. Only lasted 2 years. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/f4064842/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Monkey-Masked Speeding Driver in PhoenixIgnoresTickets
LarryT wrote: The law - at least in Va., is they are supposed to obey all traffic laws unless their blue/red lights are on. That's the statutory language here in Michigan, but persecutors and law enforcement workers don't obey laws, so statute doesn't matter. They'll just tell you he was in a marked car, so laws don't apply to him. I personally know a state police lieutenant (former state highway trooper) who jumped all over a trooper for pulling him over when he was doing 95 in a 70 zone in a state motor pool car (not even an unmarked squad). If I were the trooper that he mistreated, I would have arrested him for reckless driving and refused to back down. Professional Courtesy goes both ways, if you aren't courteous, you should forfeit any 'right' you had to claim it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Huzza! Huzza! Huzza!
Three hearty cheers for Chris McCann! Sent Gump's injectors his way and in a few weeks he had them back to me looking SWEET! He set pop pressure within 50psi of each other, all in the 1525-1550 range. Spent today installing the injectors and delivering SWMBA to work after she dropped the E300D off for brake service. Gump heads off for a front end Tuesday, so I have to have her running. Put the anti seize on each pretty injector and carefully spun them home. Then popped the torque wrench to just right. I had cleaned up the metal lines while they were off and got them on with some fudging around because the clamp was loose and angles were wonky. Put fuel lines back on, tighten up the caps on the tops and pumped fuel through. No leaks. Put the key in and glow, then crank. No light off because the battery was out of service for two months. Put the charger on and go make some rain barrels out of garbage cans. Doing my day of service as requested by our enlightened president. Once the battery was ready, hopped in and cranked her until she lit. Injector one is spilling copious amounts of fuel. Shut off and scratch head. Figured out why you may as well just use all new lines. Had broken two of the lines on removal, so had cut some new, but line at #1 was shot and leaking. Fresh line, no leaking there and light up again. Huffing noise and smoke from the injector area, but no visible wet or bubble that I can see. Get the claw foot out and snug up the end of the hard lines all over. Still huffing and puffing. Close the hood and take her around the block a few times to seat everything, just in case. Get back and pop the hood. Still huffing and puffing. Lean over for better look, hand on the dip stick, which snicks into place, no more huffing. Hard to tell right off if this has reduced the massive smoke out the back. Will have to do more cold starts. The smoke is now more grey than black or blue at cold idle. Have not gotten her good and hot to see if that reduces smoking. Might need to redo the rings. That is a job for another year. Will have to drive Gump for another five years. In that time will redo the head, get her painted, replace the leaking engine seal between crank and transmission, replace cracked windscreen and get all new window seals. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd:] Clunker math]
A mere drop in the bucket compared to what was been given to UAW/Government Motors. Besides, we break even after 10 years ... unless you consider the time value of money. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 20:54 To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] [Fwd:] Clunker math] from another list Original Message Subject:[db] Clunker math Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:48:49 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john dieselj...@comcast.net To: undisclosed-recipients: ; got this info from a friend... A vehicle at 15 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 800 gallons a year of gasoline. A vehicle at 25 mpg and 12,000 miles per year uses 480 gallons a year. So, the average clunker transaction will reduce US gasoline consumption by 320 gallons per year. They claim 700,000 vehicles so that is 224 million gallons/year. That equates to a bit over 5 million barrels of oil. 5 million barrels of oil is about 1/4 of one day's US consumption. And, 5 million barrels of oil costs about $350 million dollars at $75/bbl. So, tax payers contributed $3 billion to save $350 million. And 80% of the auto profits went to foreign countries. just the facts (as they were passed on to me...) - does anyone in leadership do the math before they make decisions? john also some stats on 9/11: http://wagoneers.com/MISC/History/11_September_2001-the-loss_the-cost.txt - Snohomish, Washington -o|o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/a4 18e098/attachment.html -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/a4 18e098/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Becker Europa
I'm trying to fix the Becker Europa in the 74 240D. I see a standard car radio antenna jack, but the FM works so poorly that I wonder if there is a separate jack for a FM antenna. No. Probably something wrong with it, I doubt the design is as bad as all that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Huzza! Huzza! Huzza!
Will have to drive Gump for another five years. Huzza, indeed. Gump's almost classy, not like a pod. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1987 mercedes wagon - $900 (fremont, nh)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:32:44 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com Subject: 1987 mercedes wagon - $900 (fremont, nh) fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1370086465.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1370086465.html to contact the person who posted this. -- 1987 mercedes wagon Date: 2009-09-11, 8:11PM 1987 Mercedes Benz Wagon 6cylynder Turbo Diesel 300TD power steering Driverside airbag all leather seats interior seats 8 262,474 mls cooper lifeliner GLS tires 195/65/R15 aluminum alloy stock rims Good carfax report on service $900oo or Best Offer!!! CALL-(603) 479-3375 * Location: fremont, nh * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1370086465.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1370086465.html -- this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbGhttp://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG -- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/b29095be/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd:] Clunker math]
And Global Warming, or Climate Change, or CO2 in the air, or something like that, it was going to be all better with the clunkers declunked. --R OK Don wrote: Right - it never was about oil, or gas - it was about UAW and dealer jobs and propping up our auto companies. The better fuel economy aspect was an after-thought. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Cash for Clunkers was not about saving oil though. Not really. Allan -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/895938af/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090911/730a894a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] California fire pix
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[MBZ] Car for Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWN1udGLR2o Auction is Saturday and they have a 2004 Dynasty up for bid http://www.murphyauctions.net/kenmore09sep.html or get one of the Sprinters (7) 2006 DODGE SPRINTER vans, MERCEDES 6 cyl diesel, auto, p/s, p/b, a/c Maybe it is the boats he needs 20' JETCRAFT aluminum jet boat, AQUA SCAN 10' inflatable boats w/center console, Either way, the bidding is 11am Pacific, 2pm Eastern on the interwebs clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com