Re: [MBZ] Axle shaft replacement - was: Frankenheap weldery
And since I had just done it, I knew where all the tools were! Finding the tools is often the most time consuming part of a job! If you go into a job not knowing what tools you'll need, it takes even longer. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Axle shaft replacement - was: Frankenheap weldery
> andrew strasfogel wrote: > If that only took you an hour, I will fly you to DC to be my > personal mechanic! It took less than one hour. Honest. *smiles* The rest of the story is: The shaft on the wagon was making an oily mess so I knew it needed replacement. I went out to my collection of parts cars and pulled both shafts from one of them. One looked okay, the other not so good. I put the "looks okay" on the wagon. When I got back from the 1/2 mile (1 km) test drive it was leaking. *sigh* A day or two later, I went to a different parts car and pulled both shafts from it. I then noted the time and began the swap on (again) on the wagon. About 53 minutes later the car was back on the ground and done. So this was the second time on the wagon, and the 6 axle shaft I had handled, and the 4th time through the process all within a couple days. And I have a concrete floored garage, a couple hydraulic jacks, and a creeper. And since I had just done it, I knew where all the tools were! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a Bimmer for Wilton
That's the interior stat setting for dual zone HVAC. Guy likes it hot, like his wheels. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pretty hot car. The dash says 90 degrees F even though the pictures look > like it is winter outside. Gotta be a hot car to do that! > > I was wondering how much you could sell those wheels and tires for in the > right ghetto? If you could find the right (OE) wheels with decent tires, it > might make the car pretty cheap. > > >> http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1553679332.html >> >> You and Snook can go crusing >> >> Allan >> -- >> 1983 300D >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a Bimmer for Wilton
Pretty hot car. The dash says 90 degrees F even though the pictures look like it is winter outside. Gotta be a hot car to do that! I was wondering how much you could sell those wheels and tires for in the right ghetto? If you could find the right (OE) wheels with decent tires, it might make the car pretty cheap. http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1553679332.html You and Snook can go crusing Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
The subject of this thread is a /8. These and earlier cars had the tank under the trunk. in these, you put the head of the bolt into the allen socket on the plug. Then put a wrench on the top nut to unscrew the plug and screen, after you have used 2 wrenches to jam the two nuts together. If you weld the nuts, you can use a socket on the bottom nut. Then you have a GenUwine merSAYdees tool. I have also used the channel lock method, and the chisel method. The bolt method is the more elegant choice. For 123 and later chassis, with the tank behind the seat, this method does not work, as you observed. Those screens are accessed with a big socket., and yes, the axle is always inthe way. A real pain compared to the 110/115 cars. and 110/111/112/114/108/109 gassers Dieselhead wrote: I have used a bolt with a 15/16" head with double nuts or double nuts welded on to remove these. Tell us more about this? the double nuts grab the flats of the screen? - then wrench on the screen using the double nutted 5/8? On our '84 240D the axle shaft was in the way, so a bit of chisel loosened it to take it off. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a Bimmer for Wilton
'Wouldn't wanta be caught near it; somebody may think I approve that crap. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:02 PM Subject: [MBZ] a Bimmer for Wilton http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1553679332.html You and Snook can go crusing Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] a Bimmer for Wilton
http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1553679332.html You and Snook can go crusing Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
Craig wrote: > He's talking about a '74 240D, a W115. Your '84 240D is a W123. Bruce was speaking about a W115 - was Dieselhead also speaking about a W115? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don SDL
I know where there is a nice SDL you can buy for less than that. (when you drop an other zero into OK Don's offer, I get $5) drop a zero before the decimal and you have a deal. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:09:19 -0600 Mountain Man wrote: > Tell us more about this? No need to tell more ... > On our '84 240D the axle shaft was in the way, so a bit of chisel > loosened it to take it off. He's talking about a '74 240D, a W115. Your '84 240D is a W123. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] History Channel: PICKERS
Yea. One of the dudes on Pawn Stars sort of reminds me of you. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > Yea, I just watched it that I had recorded. Its just a sprinter van with > the MB logos on it. I like that Pawn Stars show much better though. > > Wonko the Sane wrote: > >> Didn't get a good look at the vehicle they drive, but it looks like a >> Sprinter but has the Benz trident on the front hood. >> >> ??? >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: >> 270.14.149/2630 - Release Date: 01/18/10 01:35:00 >> >> >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 > 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro > manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers. -- Oscar Wilde ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator Fan and Pulley
I got some cut-off discs for my dremel and commenced to cutting the nut off. ot a goodly part cut off but had to leave it undone until tomorrow. I'm sure it will work. I just hope I didn't bugger up the pulley too much in my travails. I'll know tomorrow about the key or lack thereof Bob R On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > Mitch wrote: > > Or they weren't keyed. > > Has anyone ever seen a broken key? > I can't imagine that could happen. > I would bet cheap chinese key, or no key. Which might mean you have > loosened the nut a bit, since the pulley is spinning? > Take it to a shop and have them try? - maybe they can crack the nut? - > buy a nut cracker at craftsman? > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oh fer.....
> ..BUT if you have a used one where it has not triggered the explosive > device, it should be fine?.. > No. It will not retract. RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wolwo smokers
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Actually, they tend to crack badly between the valves, Aha, I was sort of right then. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
Dieselhead wrote: > I have used a bolt with a 15/16" head > with double nuts or double nuts welded on to remove these. Tell us more about this? the double nuts grab the flats of the screen? - then wrench on the screen using the double nutted 5/8? On our '84 240D the axle shaft was in the way, so a bit of chisel loosened it to take it off. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fuel leak
I took a tank that had some pinhole leaks into the local radiator shop. They dunked it in their "tank" (not sure what's in it) and brazed a patch over the leaks. No explosions. Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes: > No, that is how the pros weld a fuel tank. > > >> Oh my, this is going to require ear plugs so the large BANG does't >> scare you too much. >> >> Than of course there is all the hollering and screaming that comes >> from burn victims. >> >>I've used epoxy with good results, not as dramatic of course >> >> >>-- >> >>Peter Arnold >> >>Windsor, CT >> >>- Original Message - >> From: "Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53310" >> >>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >>Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:21:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak >> >>Another trick that I've heard about but never witnessed is called >>'pressing up' the tank, whereby you fill it with water so that the fuel >>is pressed up to the top of the tank, and then you weld so that the >>water gets heated and not the fuel. How do you keep the water leaking >>out of the break from mucking up your welding? I don't know... >> >>-Max >> >>-Original Message- >>From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com >>[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey >>Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:14 PM >>To: Mercedes Discussion List >>Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak >> >>> What do I use to weld this? Torch? >> >>Fuel tank welding is rather tricky. I've done it. The secret >>ingredient is a lawnmower putting away filling the tank with non-oxygen, >>and keeping it that way. >> >>I don't really recommend it. >> >>-- Jim >> >> >> >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives >>http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
The drain and screen are in the middle of the bottom of the tank. It takes a large allen wrench. 23 or 24 mm. I have used a bolt with a 15/16" head with double nuts or double nuts welded on to remove these. I think the size is 5/8" bolt. Fuel gauge sender is accessed in the center of the trunk, under an access panel Hi All, I recently purchased a very nice 74 240D and put a good motor in it. It runs sweet, but then dies of fuel starvation. Discovered that the tank is filled with old biodiesel that has the color, texture, and clarity of carrot juice. I have to stop and blow out the tank screen every 5 minutes to get it to run. What is the most expeditious way of cleaning out the tank? I flushed it once through the outlet lines but it is still filled with gunk. Is there an inspection hatch I could use, or should I remove the tank and manually shake and swirl it? TIA Bruce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don SDL
drop a zero before the decimal and you have a deal. OK Don wrote: $5,000.00 US dollars, and it's yours! On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: its a POS, I will buy it back from you. OK Don wrote: Amen. The '92 300D is on it's second alternator this weekend - and after replacing the only vacuum line I can find was broken by the flailing belt, it is still shifting hard. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I was just thinking about how I wish I would have kept the OK don SDL. That car was ugly but it sure had a great engine in it. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 270.14.151/2633 - Release Date: 01/19/10 11:49:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator Fan and Pulley
Mitch wrote: > Or they weren't keyed. Has anyone ever seen a broken key? I can't imagine that could happen. I would bet cheap chinese key, or no key. Which might mean you have loosened the nut a bit, since the pulley is spinning? Take it to a shop and have them try? - maybe they can crack the nut? - buy a nut cracker at craftsman? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
yea, its very obvious when they have blown. Jim Cathey wrote: So that means if it doesn't explode it's still ok to use, right? Chances are very good. The belt lock function has nothing to do with the squib tensioner. I can get the belts to lock just by pulling to quickly on them. They'll lock during aggressive braking. If the squib has fired, I don't think they work right anymore. I think it's obvious, in other words. No, you do not want one where the squib has fired. But it's not like you'll accidentally do so either. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 270.14.151/2633 - Release Date: 01/19/10 11:49:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wolwo smokers
Actually, they tend to crack badly between the valves, causing the valve guides to come loose. However, unlike MB heads, they can be welded, a friend had his done and it ran great. Noisy bastards, though -- turbo sounds like a cop siren a couple blocks back! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don SDL
$5,000.00 US dollars, and it's yours! On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > its a POS, I will buy it back from you. > > OK Don wrote: > >> Amen. The '92 300D is on it's second alternator this weekend - and after >> replacing the only vacuum line I can find was broken by the flailing belt, >> it is still shifting hard. >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin > >wrote: >> >> >> >>> I was just thinking about how I wish I would have kept the OK don SDL. >>> That car was ugly but it sure had a great engine in it. >>> >>> >>> -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don SDL
its a POS, I will buy it back from you. OK Don wrote: Amen. The '92 300D is on it's second alternator this weekend - and after replacing the only vacuum line I can find was broken by the flailing belt, it is still shifting hard. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I was just thinking about how I wish I would have kept the OK don SDL. That car was ugly but it sure had a great engine in it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 270.14.149/2630 - Release Date: 01/18/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] History Channel: PICKERS
Yea, I just watched it that I had recorded. Its just a sprinter van with the MB logos on it. I like that Pawn Stars show much better though. Wonko the Sane wrote: Didn't get a good look at the vehicle they drive, but it looks like a Sprinter but has the Benz trident on the front hood. ??? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 270.14.149/2630 - Release Date: 01/18/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Axle shaft replacement - was: Frankenheap weldery
I've been a fan of a couple of centerpunch marks myself; they won't wash off. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 19, 2010, at 12:26, Fmiser wrote: archer wrote: That's a very clear description of a job IMO. I've got to do that before long in order to replace a differential. Do you know what the "line up" marks are on the drive shaft, rubber universal, and/or differential shaft for a 123? Had driveshaft vibration problems with a previous car. Not much fun. I have not had to dis-assemble a driveshaft on a 123 (yet) - but on all other cars _I_ mark it before I take it apart. Paint, fingernail polish, chalk, etc. I would certainly look for factory marks before I took it apart trusting there were any there -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Toyota and Jeep Comparison
We've found that my late 80's, early 90's parents can get in and out of the Mercedes easier than the Gen 2 Chrysler mini-van. The back seat of the SDL was easest, but they have very little problem with the 124s. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > My older aunties have meenievayans, they seem quite easy to get in and out > of, and can haul all their geezer friends. > > --R > > > Donald Snook wrote: > >> My 66 year old mother wants to get a different car. She has a 2002 Volvo >> C70 Convertible. She says it is just too hard to get in and out of - >> especially for my 82 year old step-father. I told her this when she bought >> it. But, she had always wanted a convertible. So, she is now looking at >> two cars at a local car lot. She found a 2002 Toyota Highlander with the V6 >> (looks nice) and a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I was doing some research and >> found the information about the oil sludge/gelling problem on the Toyota V6. >> Does anyone have any experience with this engine. Evidently, if you were >> not vigilant about 3,000 mile oil changes, the engine can develop sludge and >> damage the engine. Toyota agreed to a goodwill warranty claim (as part of a >> lawsuit settlement) for 8 years and unlimited mileage. If this car is a >> 2002, the warranty is either expired or is nearing expiration. I don't >> know how you would know if the engine has the problem until something fails. >>I also know very little about the Jeeps. >> >> Any suggestions for me/her? >> >> Donald H. Snook >> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> Panic! (the national past time). >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seat Belt
I'd think that UV damage over the ages would be a concern - regardless of whether the car has been in an accident or not. However, I would not be afraid of the belts from Kaleb's car --- -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Toyota and Jeep Comparison
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > I was doing some research and found the information about the oil > sludge/gelling problem on >the Toyota V6. Does anyone have any experience with this engine. Evidently, >if you were >not vigilant about 3,000 mile oil changes, the engine can develop sludge and >damage the >engine. Toyota agreed to a goodwill warranty claim (as part of a lawsuit >settlement) for 8 >years and unlimited mileage. If this car is a 2002, the warranty is either >expired or is >nearing expiration. I don't know how you would know if the engine has the >problem >until something fails. I've been told by mechanics at an import indy shop with a lot of Toyota experience that you can easily tell by pulling a valve cover---these are OHC engines, so the camshaft is right there: if it's covered with black tarry stuff, you have sludge; if not, not. I guess a distant second-best would be to peek in the oil fill hole with a strong light. Regarding the Highlander vs. the Grand Cherokee, they are very different vehicles. The Grand Cherokee is a lot more capable off-road, but it drives like a truck. The Highlander drives like a Camry station wagon with a little more ground clearance, which is what it is. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fuel leak
No, that is how the pros weld a fuel tank. Oh my, this is going to require ear plugs so the large BANG does't scare you too much. Than of course there is all the hollering and screaming that comes from burn victims. I've used epoxy with good results, not as dramatic of course -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: "Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:21:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak Another trick that I've heard about but never witnessed is called 'pressing up' the tank, whereby you fill it with water so that the fuel is pressed up to the top of the tank, and then you weld so that the water gets heated and not the fuel. How do you keep the water leaking out of the break from mucking up your welding? I don't know... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak What do I use to weld this? Torch? Fuel tank welding is rather tricky. I've done it. The secret ingredient is a lawnmower putting away filling the tank with non-oxygen, and keeping it that way. I don't really recommend it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wolwo smokers
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:55 PM, wrote: >> I'm guessing this is probably the same VW six that was used in the >> Volvo 7xx diesels in the late '80s/early '90s... >> > That was a VW truck engine so must have been designed for puttering around > town. You would hope so, but I'm quite sure I've read (maybe on VW diesel message boards) that the engine doesn't like it. I think the explanation was that the design didn't allow for adequate coolant circulation in the long, narrow inline-six block and head, and head warpage and head gasket blowouts were therefore common. Steady high-speed runnign is not a problem, but the constant heat-up/cool-down cycles of stop-and-go driving encourages hot spots in the head. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] History Channel: PICKERS
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: > Didn't get a good look at the vehicle they drive, but it looks like a > Sprinter but has the Benz trident on the front hood. > Are Sprinters even still being sold at Dodge dealers any more since the DaimlerChrysler divorce? I thought they were all Freightliners now. Regardless, you can easily buy the Mercedes grill and other conversion bits for them online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fuel leak
Another trick that I've heard about but never witnessed is called 'pressing up' the tank, whereby you fill it with water so that the fuel is pressed up to the top of the tank, and then you weld so that the water gets heated and not the fuel. How do you keep the water leaking out of the break from mucking up your welding? I don't know... Pressing up == blowing up! Well, with water backing the weld location you'd probably never get enough heat into there to actually weld metal, or even bring fuel vapors to ignition. (There is such a thing as underwater welding, but I don't think it's for the common man!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
So that means if it doesn't explode it's still ok to use, right? Chances are very good. The belt lock function has nothing to do with the squib tensioner. I can get the belts to lock just by pulling to quickly on them. They'll lock during aggressive braking. If the squib has fired, I don't think they work right anymore. I think it's obvious, in other words. No, you do not want one where the squib has fired. But it's not like you'll accidentally do so either. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
Is there an inspection hatch I could use, or should I remove the tank and manually shake and swirl it? The fuel sender in the top is in a nice big hole. Tank strainer on bottom is in another. Remove both, and go to town with a pressure washer? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fuel leak
Turned out the use of B99 had eaten the rubber fuel filler seal and the cap. When driving the car, it allowed the fuel to slosh out and then drip back down the filler into the trunk. Bypassed the excess fuel escape hole, because the cap kept it in the loop. clay On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Another trick that I've heard about but never witnessed is called 'pressing up' the tank, whereby you fill it with water so that the fuel is pressed up to the top of the tank, and then you weld so that the water gets heated and not the fuel. How do you keep the water leaking out of the break from mucking up your welding? I don't know... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak What do I use to weld this? Torch? Fuel tank welding is rather tricky. I've done it. The secret ingredient is a lawnmower putting away filling the tank with non- oxygen, and keeping it that way. I don't really recommend it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle riders, observe.
relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.wimp.com/ecomobiletests/ Looks like a slender Jeremy Clarkson. How old is that video? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
- Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning Rich Thomas wrote: There is (most likely -- I just did this on a 126) a fuel tank strainer at the bottom where the fuel line attaches, it is probably gunked up. I know the substance of which he speaks, it sounds like the grainy stuff on the bottom of a barrel of used Chinese restaurant soy oil. If that's in the tank, take off the filler cap, put a huge catch pan under the car, and unscrew the strainer, hoping that 90% of the crap will come out with the fuel. Then you'll probably have to run a pressure washer wand in there to get the rest (try not to pressure wash the coil in the fuel level sender) and then find a way to dry it out, maybe with a blow dryer stuck in the filler tube. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 270.14.151/2633 - Release Date: 01/19/10 12:49:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
Rich Thomas wrote: There is (most likely -- I just did this on a 126) a fuel tank strainer at the bottom where the fuel line attaches, it is probably gunked up. I know the substance of which he speaks, it sounds like the grainy stuff on the bottom of a barrel of used Chinese restaurant soy oil. If that's in the tank, take off the filler cap, put a huge catch pan under the car, and unscrew the strainer, hoping that 90% of the crap will come out with the fuel. Then you'll probably have to run a pressure washer wand in there to get the rest (try not to pressure wash the coil in the fuel level sender) and then find a way to dry it out, maybe with a blow dryer stuck in the filler tube. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Motorcycle riders, observe.
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Re: [MBZ] bam bam
> When a Mercedes built after 1985 has an accident, the seatbelt comes > with an > ETR (emergency tensioning retractor), this explodes and renders the > seatbelt > useless. I am not risking my life like that, sorry... > Which fires when the airbag deploys which should be a clue. RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
If it still retracts and pulls back in it "should" be ok. But it is a safety item. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: "LarryT" Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:28:09 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt So that means if it doesn't explode it's still ok to use, right? Thx Larry OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: "Rusty Cullens" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:20 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt > When a Mercedes built after 1985 has an accident, the seatbelt comes with > an ETR (emergency tensioning retractor), this explodes and renders the > seatbelt useless. I am not risking my life like that, sorry. > > > > Rusty Cullens > BuyMBparts, Inc. > www.buyMBparts.biz > Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 > Fax/ 770-454-9745 > ICQ 427542441 > AIM BuyMBparts > > - Original Message - > From: "R A Bennell" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt > > >>I still say it depends on how hard it was hit and whether there are any >>signs of damage to the belt. Many cars are >> damaged quite severely but repaired and I truly doubt that the seat belts >> are routinely replaced at the body shop. >> >> Look for blood stains on the belts. If the last poor fellow didn't make >> it, then maybe you don't want those belts. >> >> Randy >> >> -Original Message- >> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com >> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M >> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:27 AM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt >> >> >> He said the car was hit hard, so forces were exerted on the belts to keep >> the passengers in their seats. If I were you Larry, I'd spring for a new >> belt. Belts are such a major part of the cars safety systems, not worth >> trying to save a few bucks in this area. Used fenders and trim bits are >> fine, but used belts are kinda like buying used rotors, just not worth >> the >> unknown in my opinion. >> >> Ed >> 300E >> >> 2010/1/19 Jim Cathey >> >>> I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one >>> from a car hit hard in the rear. >>> >>> Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. >>> Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be >>> enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet >>> metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm >>> sure it's fine. >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
There is (most likely -- I just did this on a 126) a fuel tank strainer at the bottom where the fuel line attaches, it is probably gunked up. (that is not what you mean by tank screen is it? I can't imagine doing that every 5 min) Drain the tank as much as you can, then take it out and either clean it or put in another one (cheap enough) with the o-ring. While it is out you could probably do some cleaning from top or bottom or bothj so the crap will drain out. --R B Dike wrote: Hi All, I recently purchased a very nice 74 240D and put a good motor in it. It runs sweet, but then dies of fuel starvation. Discovered that the tank is filled with old biodiesel that has the color, texture, and clarity of carrot juice. I have to stop and blow out the tank screen every 5 minutes to get it to run. What is the most expeditious way of cleaning out the tank? I flushed it once through the outlet lines but it is still filled with gunk. Is there an inspection hatch I could use, or should I remove the tank and manually shake and swirl it? TIA Bruce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel Tank Cleaning
Hi All, I recently purchased a very nice 74 240D and put a good motor in it. It runs sweet, but then dies of fuel starvation. Discovered that the tank is filled with old biodiesel that has the color, texture, and clarity of carrot juice. I have to stop and blow out the tank screen every 5 minutes to get it to run. What is the most expeditious way of cleaning out the tank? I flushed it once through the outlet lines but it is still filled with gunk. Is there an inspection hatch I could use, or should I remove the tank and manually shake and swirl it? TIA Bruce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT oscope
It's the thing that you use to measure something -- a little metal probe you stick on a circuit or component, the other end plugs into the scope. They have to be made properly with impedance and capacitance and such to allow for frequency measurement and not to alter the circuit much while you are doing the measurement. I found a writeup on how to bodge one up, but they are cheap enough to buy so I will get a couple. I am excited, I have wanted a scope for a long time, this one is nice! --R R A Bennell wrote: What is the purpose of the probe? Does it protect the scope in the event that you put the probe in somewhere hotter than you expected? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT oscope So I bought the Tek 2445 for $100, it turned on, showed some stuff on the screen so I guess it is working. The kid said his brother used it, left it at his house in the closet some time ago, so he was unloading it. Seems like a good price, ebay has them for $400 give or take so I guess it was a decent deal. I'll order some probes http://cgi.ebay.com/New-2-Two-100MHz-Oscilloscope-Probes-Probe-Tektronix-HP_W0QQitemZ270506371820QQcmdZViewItemQQpt ZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efb6faaec and see if I can get dangerous. I found a great lab handout from MIT 6.002 - Circuits and Electronics lab, tells how to use the thing to do all kinds of stuff. I guess I am almost in bidness with a new toy! --R John Reames wrote: I'm using an old 7k series. Way overkill for my needs, but plugins are quite available... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 18, 2010, at 11:49, Jim Cathey wrote: This series is the last of the (and best of the) analog scopes from the top maker of such. Except for its Achilles heel IC. There are some benefits to the later digital scopes, but I prefer the analogs, at least where they will do the job. For GP work, they certainly will. If you don't want it, I do! (OK, shipping is an issue.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
So that means if it doesn't explode it's still ok to use, right? Thx Larry OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: "Rusty Cullens" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:20 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt When a Mercedes built after 1985 has an accident, the seatbelt comes with an ETR (emergency tensioning retractor), this explodes and renders the seatbelt useless. I am not risking my life like that, sorry. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt I still say it depends on how hard it was hit and whether there are any signs of damage to the belt. Many cars are damaged quite severely but repaired and I truly doubt that the seat belts are routinely replaced at the body shop. Look for blood stains on the belts. If the last poor fellow didn't make it, then maybe you don't want those belts. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt He said the car was hit hard, so forces were exerted on the belts to keep the passengers in their seats. If I were you Larry, I'd spring for a new belt. Belts are such a major part of the cars safety systems, not worth trying to save a few bucks in this area. Used fenders and trim bits are fine, but used belts are kinda like buying used rotors, just not worth the unknown in my opinion. Ed 300E 2010/1/19 Jim Cathey I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a car hit hard in the rear. Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm sure it's fine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
If the collision was enough to make the seatbelt lock then it deployed. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt BUT if you have a used one where it has not triggered the explosive device, it should be fine? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt the whole seat belt has to be replaced, it is all one unit. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt Is the whole belt replaced or just the explosive device? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt When a Mercedes built after 1985 has an accident, the seatbelt comes with an ETR (emergency tensioning retractor), this explodes and renders the seatbelt useless. I am not risking my life like that, sorry. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt I still say it depends on how hard it was hit and whether there are any signs of damage to the belt. Many cars are damaged quite severely but repaired and I truly doubt that the seat belts are routinely replaced at the body shop. Look for blood stains on the belts. If the last poor fellow didn't make it, then maybe you don't want those belts. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt He said the car was hit hard, so forces were exerted on the belts to keep the passengers in their seats. If I were you Larry, I'd spring for a new belt. Belts are such a major part of the cars safety systems, not worth trying to save a few bucks in this area. Used fenders and trim bits are fine, but used belts are kinda like buying used rotors, just not worth the unknown in my opinion. Ed 300E 2010/1/19 Jim Cathey I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a car hit hard in the rear. Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm sure it's fine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To se
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
BUT if you have a used one where it has not triggered the explosive device, it should be fine? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt the whole seat belt has to be replaced, it is all one unit. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt > Is the whole belt replaced or just the explosive device? > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rusty Cullens > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:20 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt > > > When a Mercedes built after 1985 has an accident, the seatbelt comes with > an > ETR (emergency tensioning retractor), this explodes and renders the > seatbelt > useless. I am not risking my life like that, sorry. > > > > Rusty Cullens > BuyMBparts, Inc. > www.buyMBparts.biz > Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 > Fax/ 770-454-9745 > ICQ 427542441 > AIM BuyMBparts > > - Original Message - > From: "R A Bennell" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt > > >>I still say it depends on how hard it was hit and whether there are any >>signs of damage to the belt. Many cars are >> damaged quite severely but repaired and I truly doubt that the seat belts >> are routinely replaced at the body shop. >> >> Look for blood stains on the belts. If the last poor fellow didn't make >> it, then maybe you don't want those belts. >> >> Randy >> >> -Original Message- >> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com >> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M >> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:27 AM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt >> >> >> He said the car was hit hard, so forces were exerted on the belts to keep >> the passengers in their seats. If I were you Larry, I'd spring for a new >> belt. Belts are such a major part of the cars safety systems, not worth >> trying to save a few bucks in this area. Used fenders and trim bits are >> fine, but used belts are kinda like buying used rotors, just not worth >> the >> unknown in my opinion. >> >> Ed >> 300E >> >> 2010/1/19 Jim Cathey >> >>> I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one >>> from >>> a car hit hard in the rear. >>> >>> Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. >>> Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be >>> enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet >>> metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm >>> sure it's fine. >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsu
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
the whole seat belt has to be replaced, it is all one unit. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt Is the whole belt replaced or just the explosive device? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt When a Mercedes built after 1985 has an accident, the seatbelt comes with an ETR (emergency tensioning retractor), this explodes and renders the seatbelt useless. I am not risking my life like that, sorry. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt I still say it depends on how hard it was hit and whether there are any signs of damage to the belt. Many cars are damaged quite severely but repaired and I truly doubt that the seat belts are routinely replaced at the body shop. Look for blood stains on the belts. If the last poor fellow didn't make it, then maybe you don't want those belts. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt He said the car was hit hard, so forces were exerted on the belts to keep the passengers in their seats. If I were you Larry, I'd spring for a new belt. Belts are such a major part of the cars safety systems, not worth trying to save a few bucks in this area. Used fenders and trim bits are fine, but used belts are kinda like buying used rotors, just not worth the unknown in my opinion. Ed 300E 2010/1/19 Jim Cathey I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a car hit hard in the rear. Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm sure it's fine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT oscope
What is the purpose of the probe? Does it protect the scope in the event that you put the probe in somewhere hotter than you expected? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT oscope So I bought the Tek 2445 for $100, it turned on, showed some stuff on the screen so I guess it is working. The kid said his brother used it, left it at his house in the closet some time ago, so he was unloading it. Seems like a good price, ebay has them for $400 give or take so I guess it was a decent deal. I'll order some probes http://cgi.ebay.com/New-2-Two-100MHz-Oscilloscope-Probes-Probe-Tektronix-HP_W0QQitemZ270506371820QQcmdZViewItemQQpt ZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efb6faaec and see if I can get dangerous. I found a great lab handout from MIT 6.002 - Circuits and Electronics lab, tells how to use the thing to do all kinds of stuff. I guess I am almost in bidness with a new toy! --R John Reames wrote: > I'm using an old 7k series. Way overkill for my needs, but plugins are > quite available... > > -- > John W Reames > jwrea...@comcast.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Jan 18, 2010, at 11:49, Jim Cathey wrote: > >> This series is the last of the (and best of the) analog >> scopes from the top maker of such. Except for its >> Achilles heel IC. There are some benefits to the later >> digital scopes, but I prefer the analogs, at least where >> they will do the job. For GP work, they certainly will. >> >> If you don't want it, I do! (OK, shipping is an issue.) >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
Is the whole belt replaced or just the explosive device? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt When a Mercedes built after 1985 has an accident, the seatbelt comes with an ETR (emergency tensioning retractor), this explodes and renders the seatbelt useless. I am not risking my life like that, sorry. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt >I still say it depends on how hard it was hit and whether there are any >signs of damage to the belt. Many cars are > damaged quite severely but repaired and I truly doubt that the seat belts > are routinely replaced at the body shop. > > Look for blood stains on the belts. If the last poor fellow didn't make > it, then maybe you don't want those belts. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:27 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt > > > He said the car was hit hard, so forces were exerted on the belts to keep > the passengers in their seats. If I were you Larry, I'd spring for a new > belt. Belts are such a major part of the cars safety systems, not worth > trying to save a few bucks in this area. Used fenders and trim bits are > fine, but used belts are kinda like buying used rotors, just not worth the > unknown in my opinion. > > Ed > 300E > > 2010/1/19 Jim Cathey > >> I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from >> a >>> car hit hard in the rear. >>> >> >> Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. >> Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be >> enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet >> metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm >> sure it's fine. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
When a Mercedes built after 1985 has an accident, the seatbelt comes with an ETR (emergency tensioning retractor), this explodes and renders the seatbelt useless. I am not risking my life like that, sorry. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt I still say it depends on how hard it was hit and whether there are any signs of damage to the belt. Many cars are damaged quite severely but repaired and I truly doubt that the seat belts are routinely replaced at the body shop. Look for blood stains on the belts. If the last poor fellow didn't make it, then maybe you don't want those belts. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt He said the car was hit hard, so forces were exerted on the belts to keep the passengers in their seats. If I were you Larry, I'd spring for a new belt. Belts are such a major part of the cars safety systems, not worth trying to save a few bucks in this area. Used fenders and trim bits are fine, but used belts are kinda like buying used rotors, just not worth the unknown in my opinion. Ed 300E 2010/1/19 Jim Cathey I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a car hit hard in the rear. Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm sure it's fine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT oscope
So I bought the Tek 2445 for $100, it turned on, showed some stuff on the screen so I guess it is working. The kid said his brother used it, left it at his house in the closet some time ago, so he was unloading it. Seems like a good price, ebay has them for $400 give or take so I guess it was a decent deal. I'll order some probes http://cgi.ebay.com/New-2-Two-100MHz-Oscilloscope-Probes-Probe-Tektronix-HP_W0QQitemZ270506371820QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efb6faaec and see if I can get dangerous. I found a great lab handout from MIT 6.002 - Circuits and Electronics lab, tells how to use the thing to do all kinds of stuff. I guess I am almost in bidness with a new toy! --R John Reames wrote: I'm using an old 7k series. Way overkill for my needs, but plugins are quite available... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 18, 2010, at 11:49, Jim Cathey wrote: This series is the last of the (and best of the) analog scopes from the top maker of such. Except for its Achilles heel IC. There are some benefits to the later digital scopes, but I prefer the analogs, at least where they will do the job. For GP work, they certainly will. If you don't want it, I do! (OK, shipping is an issue.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
I still say it depends on how hard it was hit and whether there are any signs of damage to the belt. Many cars are damaged quite severely but repaired and I truly doubt that the seat belts are routinely replaced at the body shop. Look for blood stains on the belts. If the last poor fellow didn't make it, then maybe you don't want those belts. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt He said the car was hit hard, so forces were exerted on the belts to keep the passengers in their seats. If I were you Larry, I'd spring for a new belt. Belts are such a major part of the cars safety systems, not worth trying to save a few bucks in this area. Used fenders and trim bits are fine, but used belts are kinda like buying used rotors, just not worth the unknown in my opinion. Ed 300E 2010/1/19 Jim Cathey > I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a >> car hit hard in the rear. >> > > Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. > Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be > enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet > metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm > sure it's fine. > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fuel leak
I shouldn't think it is nearly so dangerous to weld a diesel tank as it is a gasoline tank. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of pm7...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak Oh my, this is going to require ear plugs so the large BANG does't scare you too much. Than of course there is all the hollering and screaming that comes from burn victims. I've used epoxy with good results, not as dramatic of course -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: "Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:21:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak Another trick that I've heard about but never witnessed is called 'pressing up' the tank, whereby you fill it with water so that the fuel is pressed up to the top of the tank, and then you weld so that the water gets heated and not the fuel. How do you keep the water leaking out of the break from mucking up your welding? I don't know... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak > What do I use to weld this? Torch? Fuel tank welding is rather tricky. I've done it. The secret ingredient is a lawnmower putting away filling the tank with non-oxygen, and keeping it that way. I don't really recommend it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
it was hit in the rear -- Larry OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: "Jim Cathey" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:52 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a car hit hard in the rear. Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm sure it's fine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fuel leak
Oh my, this is going to require ear plugs so the large BANG does't scare you too much. Than of course there is all the hollering and screaming that comes from burn victims. I've used epoxy with good results, not as dramatic of course -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: "Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC Dillon, 53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:21:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak Another trick that I've heard about but never witnessed is called 'pressing up' the tank, whereby you fill it with water so that the fuel is pressed up to the top of the tank, and then you weld so that the water gets heated and not the fuel. How do you keep the water leaking out of the break from mucking up your welding? I don't know... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak > What do I use to weld this? Torch? Fuel tank welding is rather tricky. I've done it. The secret ingredient is a lawnmower putting away filling the tank with non-oxygen, and keeping it that way. I don't really recommend it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fuel leak
Another trick that I've heard about but never witnessed is called 'pressing up' the tank, whereby you fill it with water so that the fuel is pressed up to the top of the tank, and then you weld so that the water gets heated and not the fuel. How do you keep the water leaking out of the break from mucking up your welding? I don't know... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel leak > What do I use to weld this? Torch? Fuel tank welding is rather tricky. I've done it. The secret ingredient is a lawnmower putting away filling the tank with non-oxygen, and keeping it that way. I don't really recommend it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Axle shaft replacement - was: Frankenheap weldery
That is an excellent write-up - agree completely regarding the diff.
mount bolts. When I did it, I found that removing a rubber cover for an
access hole allowed me to move the threaded plate that the diff. bolts
goz-into so that I could avoid cross threading and make sure the bolts
were really going into the threads. This plate is behind the body sheet
metal.
Also, I learned the hard way that you must replace the big washer at the
wheel bolt ('85 123 wagon), it truly is a single-use item. The cir-clip
inside the diff, however, can be re-used.
-Max
-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 2:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Axle shaft replacement - was: Frankenheap weldery
> Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> Well now that the entire trunk floor is out I have a nice view of the
> differential and rear axle shafts.
> I figure it needs a new shaft. This job should be made much easier
> now that I can access the axleshaft from top and bottom! But is this
> job easy? What is involved? I read the BBB but it isn't that
> straightforward.
You don't mention the car, but a bit of digging suggests that you have a
W123.
Last time I replaced an axle shaft (on a wagon) it took me less than an
hour from putting the jack under the car to the car back on the ground.
I've done it a few (too many) times.
And I had just done it (the replacement axle shaft immediately began
leaking) so all the bolts were clean and greased.
Here's my procedure
* Jack up the car enough to get under to drain the
differential oil. It's a Good Idea (TM) to make sure the
fill plug can be opened before you drain. The higher the
back of the car is jacked up, the less oil will drain out,
so I only jack up the car enough to get to the fill and
drain plugs.
* While the oil is draining:
- take off the wheel(s)
- take off the brake caliper. Yes, it really does need to
come off. I have tried many tricks to avoid it and
always had to take it off. Don't let the caliper hang
by the hose, and try not to twist/stress the hose more
than necessary.
- remove the bolt that keeps the axle shaft in the wheel
hub and push on the axle shaft to make sure it's loose
in the hub. I have never used a tool like the manual
shows. Occasionally I have had to tap the shaft out,
but it's never been more than just a bit stiff.
* Once the oil is fully drained, jack up the back of the car
to working height. I like to have the lower shock mount
about 10-12 inches (25-30 cm) off the floor. I get it this
high just to make it easier for me to work under there -
none of the parts install/removal process need the car that
high.
* Put a jack under the front of the differential (after this
called the "differential jack") and remove the four bolts
that hold the differential mount to the frame.
* Remove the differential back cover. Lower the differential
a bit with the differential jack will make getting to the
top bolts much easier. This part is especially tricky on a
wagon because the fuel tank and the suspension control
valve conspire to get in the way. Lowering the
differential changes "impossible" to merely "challenging".
The shape of the lip on the differential housing means
little or no oil will run out when the differential cover
is removed.
* Pull the retainer clip from the axle shaft. I have a piece
of steel wire with the end bent about 95 degrees. The bent
end fits into the hole in the retainer clip. I grip the
other end of the wire with vise grips and pull to remove
the retainer clip.
* With the differential jack, jack the differential up as
high as it will go. This should mean it runs into the car
body and is just a bit higher than it's normal position.
* Pull/push the axle shaft out of the wheel hub, slide it
past the hub toward the back of the car, and once that end
is free, pull the other end of the axle shaft out of the
differential.
Reassembly is pretty much the reverse.
* First, clean the splines in the wheel hub and if necessary,
on the replacement axle shaft. I lightly grease the axle
shaft splines to retard corrosion and make it all slide
together more easily.
* Put the differential end of the axle shaft into the
differential.
* Put the wheel end of the axle shaft into the wheel hub.
* With the differential jack lower the differential.
* Put the axle shaft retainer clip on in the differential.
Put the wheel hub retainer bolt in and snug it.
* Put the differential cover on and tighten the bolts to
spec.
* Using the differential jack, lift the differential so the
differential mount bolts can be put back in. Tighten to
spec.
* Tighten the axle shaft wheel hub bolt to spec.
* Put the brake caliper back on.
* Put
Re: [MBZ] Axle shaft replacement - was: Frankenheap weldery
I was thinking the same thing. One hour is pretty fast. Just setting up and cleaning up would tale me longer. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2010, at 2:04 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: If that only took you an hour, I will fly you to DC to be my personal mechanic! On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Fmiser wrote: archer wrote: That's a very clear description of a job IMO. I've got to do that before long in order to replace a differential. Do you know what the "line up" marks are on the drive shaft, rubber universal, and/or differential shaft for a 123? Had driveshaft vibration problems with a previous car. Not much fun. I have not had to dis-assemble a driveshaft on a 123 (yet) - but on all other cars _I_ mark it before I take it apart. Paint, fingernail polish, chalk, etc. I would certainly look for factory marks before I took it apart trusting there were any there -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Axle shaft replacement - was: Frankenheap weldery
If that only took you an hour, I will fly you to DC to be my personal mechanic! On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Fmiser wrote: > > archer wrote: > > > That's a very clear description of a job IMO. I've got to do > > that before long in order to replace a differential. > > Do you know what the "line up" marks are on the drive shaft, > > rubber universal, and/or differential shaft for a 123? Had > > driveshaft vibration problems with a previous car. Not much > > fun. > > I have not had to dis-assemble a driveshaft on a 123 (yet) - but > on all other cars _I_ mark it before I take it apart. Paint, > fingernail polish, chalk, etc. > > I would certainly look for factory marks before I took it apart > trusting there were any there > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Muffler design?
BTW both Polaris and OMC made rotary snowmobiles also. Polaris used the same 303 and the nearly mythical 606 dual rotor. OMC I think manufactured their own engines and sold them under the Johnson line. OMC also sold Evinrude sleds but I don't think those got the rotary. The 303 made something like 19hp, its replacement the 295 was something like 24hp. The OMC sleds had the option of either a 35 or 45hp (they didn't list sizes) engine but the sleds were big heavy monsters... -Curt Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:40:43 -0600 From: Fmiser To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Muffler design? Message-ID: <20100118234043.5f56accb.fmi...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Curt Raymond wrote: > 2 stroke Wankle... > > Well a Wankle engine with 40:1 premix (no sump) anyway... > > http://www.deadsledwrenchers.net/arcticcat/wanklepanther2.jpg Hmm. Not a very good picture For better pictures, see: http://sledaction.homestead.com/Panther303_2.html No affiliation, I just went googling when you wrote there was a wankle snowmobile. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Muffler design?
Too right... The first link is mine though. Need to get some video of it, the sound it makes is remarkable. -Curt Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:40:43 -0600 From: Fmiser To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Muffler design? Message-ID: <20100118234043.5f56accb.fmi...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Curt Raymond wrote: > 2 stroke Wankle... > > Well a Wankle engine with 40:1 premix (no sump) anyway... > > http://www.deadsledwrenchers.net/arcticcat/wanklepanther2.jpg Hmm. Not a very good picture For better pictures, see: http://sledaction.homestead.com/Panther303_2.html No affiliation, I just went googling when you wrote there was a wankle snowmobile. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Axle shaft replacement - was: Frankenheap weldery
> archer wrote: > That's a very clear description of a job IMO. I've got to do > that before long in order to replace a differential. > Do you know what the "line up" marks are on the drive shaft, > rubber universal, and/or differential shaft for a 123? Had > driveshaft vibration problems with a previous car. Not much > fun. I have not had to dis-assemble a driveshaft on a 123 (yet) - but on all other cars _I_ mark it before I take it apart. Paint, fingernail polish, chalk, etc. I would certainly look for factory marks before I took it apart trusting there were any there -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
He said the car was hit hard, so forces were exerted on the belts to keep the passengers in their seats. If I were you Larry, I'd spring for a new belt. Belts are such a major part of the cars safety systems, not worth trying to save a few bucks in this area. Used fenders and trim bits are fine, but used belts are kinda like buying used rotors, just not worth the unknown in my opinion. Ed 300E 2010/1/19 Jim Cathey > I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a >> car hit hard in the rear. >> > > Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. > Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be > enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet > metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm > sure it's fine. > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Axle shaft replacement - was: Frankenheap weldery
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Well now that the entire trunk floor is out I have a nice view of the differential and rear axle shafts. I figure it needs a new shaft. This job should be made much easier now that I can access the axleshaft from top and bottom! But is this job easy? What is involved? I read the BBB but it isn't that straightforward. You don't mention the car, but a bit of digging suggests that you have a W123. Last time I replaced an axle shaft (on a wagon) it took me less than an hour from putting the jack under the car to the car back on the ground. I've done it a few (too many) times. And I had just done it (the replacement axle shaft immediately began leaking) so all the bolts were clean and greased. Here's my procedure * Jack up the car enough to get under to drain the differential oil. It's a Good Idea (TM) to make sure the fill plug can be opened before you drain. The higher the back of the car is jacked up, the less oil will drain out, so I only jack up the car enough to get to the fill and drain plugs. * While the oil is draining: - take off the wheel(s) - take off the brake caliper. Yes, it really does need to come off. I have tried many tricks to avoid it and always had to take it off. Don't let the caliper hang by the hose, and try not to twist/stress the hose more than necessary. - remove the bolt that keeps the axle shaft in the wheel hub and push on the axle shaft to make sure it's loose in the hub. I have never used a tool like the manual shows. Occasionally I have had to tap the shaft out, but it's never been more than just a bit stiff. * Once the oil is fully drained, jack up the back of the car to working height. I like to have the lower shock mount about 10-12 inches (25-30 cm) off the floor. I get it this high just to make it easier for me to work under there - none of the parts install/removal process need the car that high. * Put a jack under the front of the differential (after this called the "differential jack") and remove the four bolts that hold the differential mount to the frame. * Remove the differential back cover. Lower the differential a bit with the differential jack will make getting to the top bolts much easier. This part is especially tricky on a wagon because the fuel tank and the suspension control valve conspire to get in the way. Lowering the differential changes "impossible" to merely "challenging". The shape of the lip on the differential housing means little or no oil will run out when the differential cover is removed. * Pull the retainer clip from the axle shaft. I have a piece of steel wire with the end bent about 95 degrees. The bent end fits into the hole in the retainer clip. I grip the other end of the wire with vise grips and pull to remove the retainer clip. * With the differential jack, jack the differential up as high as it will go. This should mean it runs into the car body and is just a bit higher than it's normal position. * Pull/push the axle shaft out of the wheel hub, slide it past the hub toward the back of the car, and once that end is free, pull the other end of the axle shaft out of the differential. Reassembly is pretty much the reverse. * First, clean the splines in the wheel hub and if necessary, on the replacement axle shaft. I lightly grease the axle shaft splines to retard corrosion and make it all slide together more easily. * Put the differential end of the axle shaft into the differential. * Put the wheel end of the axle shaft into the wheel hub. * With the differential jack lower the differential. * Put the axle shaft retainer clip on in the differential. Put the wheel hub retainer bolt in and snug it. * Put the differential cover on and tighten the bolts to spec. * Using the differential jack, lift the differential so the differential mount bolts can be put back in. Tighten to spec. * Tighten the axle shaft wheel hub bolt to spec. * Put the brake caliper back on. * Put the wheel on. * Put Mobil 1 differential fluid in the differential. * Remove the differential jack. * Lower the car to the ground. Things not specifically mentioned, but that always apply are: clean mating surfaces, clean bolt threads, drink beer, look for worn/missing/damaged other parts nearby, etc. -- Philip ___ Hi Phillip, That's a very clear description of a job IMO. I've got to do that before long in order to replace a differential. Do you know what the "line up" marks are on the drive shaft, rubber universal, and/or differential shaft for a 123? Had driveshaft vibration problems with a previous car. Not much fun. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or cha
Re: [MBZ] Seat Belt
One would think that any belt could be examined and tried. If it looks like something is out of whack or it acts odd after installation then try another. I don't think that seat belts are swapped out after every auto accident where the car is repaired and not written off. There is a bit of reluctance to sell parts for them or used units due to liability concerns but I don't think there should be. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 8:57 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Seat Belt Hi Gang, I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a car hit hard in the rear. Neither of us know if this would stress a front seat belt. Both of us think not but we have no direct knowledge. I thought there might be a forward jolt followed by a rearward one when hit from the rear. But that's a guess and I have no idea how much rearward force there would left be after the forward jolt. Maybe a gentle settling back into the seat?? Anyone out there in the "Land of Great Knowledge" have any experience in this field? Thanks - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Muffler design?
Wouldn't likely do much harm if it did, inside the can but there would be little point to putting it in if so. I wonder what might happen if one tried to start it and it didn't quite catch. A bit of fuel vapour in there along with a bit of a spark perhaps. Poof! Wouldn't blow the muffler apart but might cause fire that would continue if it did not start. No exhaust gas to displace oxygen? One of the reasons I suggested in another post to make it such that one could open it up periodically and see what is happening. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT: Muffler design? >> This is a 2-stroke, not a diesel right? Where's the oxygen >> to come from? > Four stroke wankel, but still not much O2 coming out of it. Then I don't think I'd worry about the steel wool burning. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Seat Belt
I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a car hit hard in the rear. Wouldn't bother me a bit to use a belt from such a situation. Any deceleration insufficient to crumple metal wouldn't be enough to damage the belt. (Translation: good front sheet metal == OK belt.) If the tensioner squib didn't fire I'm sure it's fine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse!
LavAzza is decent, but I'm hooked on Kimbo from my days in bella Napoli. The prices at wholelattelove are good though. When I'm in Italy, I'll by about a year's supply of Kimbo at the base commissary for less than half the price charged stateside and mail it home. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] now here is a chinese product i can happily endorse! I use http://www.wholelattelove.com -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 17, 2010, at 13:54, Mountain Man wrote: > John wrote: >> For espresso, these days it's either LaVazza Dek or Qualita Oro... >> I feel >> like I need to "sneak" my shots of espresso when I am home so that my >> son won't mooch them! > > Where do I purchase LaVazza stuff? > I want to find a local shop, but they are all downtown Chicago. I > would think Whole PayCheck would have it? > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seat Belt
'Sure seems bassackwards to me. Seat and occupant would feel a rearward force at impact due to rapid acceleration - seat and occupant are trying to remain at "rest"; occupant and belt would feel a forward force as the vehicle stops or slows after the initial rapid acceleration due to the impact - again, the occupant is trying to remain at "rest" in its newly-gained state of forward motion. Wilton - Original Message - From: "LarryT" To: Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Seat Belt Hi Gang, I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a car hit hard in the rear. Neither of us know if this would stress a front seat belt. Both of us think not but we have no direct knowledge. I thought there might be a forward jolt followed by a rearward one when hit from the rear. But that's a guess and I have no idea how much rearward force there would left be after the forward jolt. Maybe a gentle settling back into the seat?? Anyone out there in the "Land of Great Knowledge" have any experience in this field? Thanks - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Seat Belt
Hi Gang, I am considering buying a used seat belt for my W124 - Kaleb has one from a car hit hard in the rear. Neither of us know if this would stress a front seat belt. Both of us think not but we have no direct knowledge. I thought there might be a forward jolt followed by a rearward one when hit from the rear. But that's a guess and I have no idea how much rearward force there would left be after the forward jolt. Maybe a gentle settling back into the seat?? Anyone out there in the "Land of Great Knowledge" have any experience in this field? Thanks - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant Leak
The nice thing about coolant is that it leaves a white residue behind after evaporation, so you can easily spot the leak source. I just found a loose upper radiator hose on my '87 wagon, happened to notice a wet spot under the car and popped the hood to find the leak in about three seconds. I'm hopping this will cure a persistent coolant loss problem. I have analyzed the used engine oil three times and found no evidence of coolant in the oil, so I don't think I have a leaking head gasket. Have new expansion tank and cap. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant Leak The cap on my exp tank was bad and I replaced it a few weeks ago - was hoping that might be causing the leak but no such luck. As you said, they can look good but be bad. When I examined the rubber seal I found it had come apart from the metal parts. Naturally , after I bought one from Rusty I found a new one on my pegboard. LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:24 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant Leak > Yeah they do that too. As someone else already mentioned, the > radiator cap on the tank can look ok and cause problems. If the > coolant only goes down when you drive, look at the tank and cap. If > it goes down while setting, look at the WP, hoses etc. > > I went through a rach of bad Radiator caps on Diesels until I bought > new caps for all of them. A few years ago Marshall or someone > recomended replacing the rad caps every ___ years as a matter of PM. I > never did. I just replace them when there is a problem. But the > problems I had with the 300D will make me reconsider. I may go to a 5 > yr. replacement PM program. Or, by then I may sell the car. Who knows? > >>The mystery leak in my son's 603 300D turned out to be a crack in the >>coolant tank just under a fitting on the side facing the front. Only >>saw it when it got bad enough to see dripping under the car. Saw a >>small stream squirting forward when up to temp and under pressure. >>Liquid steel cured it. >> >>On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Curt Raymond >>wrote: >> >>> Does the 124 have that little stubby hose between the thermostat >>> housing and the water pump housing like the 123 does? Thats what >>> was leaking on my 240D... >>> >>> I did the waterpump while I was there, I figured that was $45 of >>> cheap insurance. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>OK Don >>Panic! (the national past time). >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives >>http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
