Re: [MBZ] FW: Opinions on this trailer

[Peter T. Arnold]

I take my loaded trailer to our landfill where they weigh each axle for 
me.  Cost: I give her a Dunkin Donuts card.


Now, I have data and don't have to base critical judgments on opinion.


--

Pete Arnold

Faith is knowing there is an ocean because you have see a brook.
-William Arthur Ward-


On 11/13/2010 1:52 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
wrote:

I think it was 1200 or 1250 lbs per tire; boat weighs 1700, trailer probably 
weighs at least 500, so I was probably right at the edge or even beyond the 
limit.

In my opinion, I was asking too much of those tires, that is why I bought new 
tires with substantially higher rating.

-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter T. Arnold
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 1:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Opinions on this trailer



What they 'really looked like' has NO bearing. What was their rating at
45#.

If you have no data, you are stating an opinion.


--
Pete Arnold<(*¿*)>

31' Forest River, Cardinal Fiver

'08 RAM250 4x4, 6.7 Smoke Motor

Member of Escapees&
National Camping Travelers, A Masonic Family Camping Club


On 11/13/2010 10:22 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:

Several years ago I got some truck tires for my boat trailer from Tire Rack for 
$70 each; they have a pretty high load rating, 1900 lbs I think, and are 
bias-ply tires.  I don't notice any improvement in how it tows, but I have a 
lot more confidence that I won't blow a tire when evacuating for the next 
hurricane.  They also have a recommended inflation pressure of 65 PSI; the 
radial tires they replaced had a maximum pressure rating of 45 PSI and really 
looked underinflated even at that pressure.

-Max




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Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 9:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



I haven't bought a non radial tyre in about 30 years.  Yes, you have to
buy the correct load rating.
--
Pete Arnold

"You win some, You loose some and You wreck some!

-Dale Earnhardt-

On 11/13/2010 8:11 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:

Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires were 
difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your trailer 
and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two wheels) 
would probably be fine.

If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I think 
you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires frequently on 
the side of the road.

-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 9:03 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:14:58 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold"
wrote:


Why not radial tires?  I use them all the time?

Yes, indeed, why not radial tires?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Sir Tools [was: Re: 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?]

[Craig]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 20:01:17 -0500 "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"  wrote:

> Craig,
>  
> Those S.T. tools look pretty disappointing. 

I showed a picture of how little the 1/2" extension would go into the
square end of the splined socket for the delivery valve holders. What
I didn't show what that the other end would not go onto the holder and
then after modification, only a little.


> I've bought a few of the Hazet tools, and I've been very happy with all
> of those purchases, even though I don't use them very much.  

As I mentioned in response to Dan, I have the Hazet combination
transmission/differential plug and oil pan drain plug tool. It's
quite a nice tool.


> Let's hope that the extractor I just ordered will at least work as
> designed out of the box.

Indeed, let's.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

[Craig]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:36:01 -0800 (PST) LWB250  wrote:

> The first Hazet wrench I owned was a combination wrench that has a hex
> "bit" in one end for differential/transmission drain plugs and a closed
> end wrench on the other for oil pan drain plugs.  The first time I held
> this wrench I knew why it was expensive.  The angles the ends are cast
> at are perfect, the bends make it "just right" for proper leverage, you
> name it.

I have that one, too! You're right, it's a keeper.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Swapping a 5spd into my 87 300D

[Rolf]

I take it all back. There are some issues, I def need the larger 
flexdisks from the 300D on the front. The carrier bushing needs to be 
replaced. The gearing needs to be shortened up, 2.88 might be ok 3.07 
would be a hoot. 65mph is 1850 rpm. 70mph is 2000. Once the turbo kicks 
in it really winds up. I need to see if there is a chart of clamping 
pressures for the pressure plates like there is on the 123, there is not 
enough pressure for the torque. With my 123 I went to a larger beefier 
clutch and flywheel, gained lots of torque but not much go. I would like 
to find a stiffer pressure plate with the hopes that it grabs better.


I switched to the standard shifter and my shifting complaint is gone 
(well maybe now the knob sites a wee bit to high), I put the carpeting 
back in and the clutch is just fine. I got the brake lights sorted 
today, there was a missing tab on the pedal I had so the pedal cluster 
came out again, along with the clutch line from the reservoir, what a 
mess. It is all cleaned up now and reverse lights work as well. I could 
not get the clutch NSS switch to work right so I just hotwired it.



So many things to do so little time..

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Re: [MBZ] Sir Tools [was: Re: 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?]

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Craig,
 
Those S.T. tools look pretty disappointing.  I've bought a few of the Hazet 
tools, and I've been very happy with all of those purchases, even though I 
don't use them very much.  Let's hope that the extractor I just ordered will at 
least work as designed out of the box.
 
-Max



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Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 5:21 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Sir Tools [was: Re: 124 spring link - special bushing extractor 
tool?]



On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:31:04 -0700 Craig  wrote:

> > > Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of
> > > the factory tool.
> >
> > Doesn't appear so:  http://www.sirtools.com/
>
> I forgot about that.
>
> The fit and finish of the tools I bought (the prechamber puller and
> delivery valve holder driver), however, leave something to be desired,
> not to mention that the deliver valve holder driver did not work as
> received.

The attached pictures show the Sir Tools tools I received. Their part
number M0019 is the splined delivery valve socket. The M0046 is a
double-ended tool that threads into a prechamber to be able to pull it
out after the locking ring has been removed with a M0007.

The first picture shows how far a 1/2" socket extension fits into the
socket drive hole on the M0019.

The second and third pictures show the splines on the M0019.

The fourth picture shows the treads on the M0046.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] is carfax nuts?

[LWB250]

Now you know why I was trying to sell off the remaining two I had a few months 
ago

Dan

--- On Sat, 11/13/10, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:

> From: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] is carfax nuts?
> To: "mercedes Mailing List" 
> Date: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 2:08 PM
> Just out of curiosity I was looking
> to see  how much carfax reports are now days, they are
> wanting $34.99 for ONE report, $44.99 for 5.  That is
> crazy.  Autocheck is not much better at $29.99 for 1
> report, but they do have unlimited at $44.99 for 30
> days.  Used to be $19.99 for 60 days.
> 
> -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>  95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic,
>  91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0
> Euro,
>  85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

[LWB250]

I look at the used tool thing two ways:

1.) When I was in tech school, a lot of guys scoured flea markets and garage 
sales for old Craftsman tools.  Even a bent or chipped screwdriver could be 
taken to the closest Sears store and exchanged for a new one, gratis.

2.) Buying a used or new high quality tool (Snap-On, Hazet, etc.) has some 
value as well.  Try a Hazet or Snap-On combination wrench in your hand, then 
hold a Craftsman or other (lesser) brand.  The feel of the premium quality 
wrench is far different, and more ergonomic than the Craftsman, I'll bet.

The first Hazet wrench I owned was a combination wrench that has a hex "bit" in 
one end for differential/transmission drain plugs and a closed end wrench on 
the other for oil pan drain plugs.  The first time I held this wrench I knew 
why it was expensive.  The angles the ends are cast at are perfect, the bends 
make it "just right" for proper leverage, you name it.

Dan



--- On Sat, 11/13/10, E M  wrote:

> From: E M 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 1:33 PM
> Garage sales are often a good place
> to find old tools too.  Often good
> quality, and around here, they tend not to be the items
> people run to
> first.
> 
> I went to buy some Craftsman tools a few years back, as
> I've heard they are
> good quality, and US made.  Every tool I picked up in
> the store, said made
> in china on it.  No, I didn't buy them.  Asked
> the guy what was with all the
> made in china stuff?  He said, don't worry, if it
> fails, they all have a
> lifetime warranty.  I guess that would be ok, assuming
> my time was worth
> nothing, and I had nothing better to do than run back and
> forth replacing
> tools.
> 
> I think good quality sockets are something you buy once in
> a lifetime, and
> they'll probably last the life of the guy you will them to
> as well, if he
> gives them decent care.
> 
> Ed
> 300E



  

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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[OK Don]

OK - it's a deal.

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> OK, already ordered it.  I'll report on it's usefulness, and then you've
> got first dibs once I'm done with both cars.  Only condition is if you sell
> it, advertise it here first.
>
> -Max --
>
OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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[MBZ] white plastic piece into which the in dash temp sensor mounts ('85 300TD)

[glenn brown]

Does anyone on the list have an extra white plastic piece which is under the 
dash and into which the in dash temp sensor mounts and the hose connecting off 
to the right.  I'm only interested in this white plastic piece.
TIA.
 
G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC   
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Re: [MBZ] vote today for a woman named Sarah

[Barry Stark]

So Randy...are you telling me that you think that what the disaster that we
have now is and better than Palin at her worst!

Barry

> 
> > so. Anyone think that the Republicans could or would have done any
> > better in the past couple of years? Aren't you diehard Republicans
> > secrety relieved that Ms Palin didn't make it into the head office?
> > What if poor old John McC had suffered a heart attack and dropped
> > dead??
> >
> >
> > Randy



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[MBZ] Injector body

[Fred Moir]

Hi, all.
I'm looking for the lower body of an inclined injector to use in my 
leak-down tester.

(602 - 603 with the threads on the lower end of the body.)
Anyone have one or the whole injector, I'll even pay for it and advance 
shipping.

EPC p/n is 000 017 29 16 for a new one.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.

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[MBZ] Cars of Walmart

[Rich Thomas]

Pretty special if you ask me

http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?page_id=9798&paged=30

--R

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[MBZ] Sir Tools [was: Re: 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?]

[Craig]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:31:04 -0700 Craig  wrote:

> > > Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of
> > > the factory tool.
> > 
> > Doesn't appear so:  http://www.sirtools.com/
> 
> I forgot about that.
> 
> The fit and finish of the tools I bought (the prechamber puller and
> delivery valve holder driver), however, leave something to be desired,
> not to mention that the deliver valve holder driver did not work as
> received.

The attached pictures show the Sir Tools tools I received. Their part
number M0019 is the splined delivery valve socket. The M0046 is a
double-ended tool that threads into a prechamber to be able to pull it
out after the locking ring has been removed with a M0007.

The first picture shows how far a 1/2" socket extension fits into the
socket drive hole on the M0019.

The second and third pictures show the splines on the M0019.

The fourth picture shows the treads on the M0046.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] is carfax nuts?

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Yet you list your car on eBay as a classified ad for free, and it
includes an Autocheck that everyone can see.

Look harder, there must be a deal out there.

Jaime


On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> They have to pay for those creepy talking fox commericals.
>
> Bob R
> On Nov 13, 2010 12:08 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
>> Just out of curiosity I was looking to see how much carfax
>> reports are now days, they are wanting $34.99 for ONE report,
>> $44.99 for 5. That is crazy. Autocheck is not much better at
>> $29.99 for 1 report, but they do have unlimited at $44.99 for 30
>> days. Used to be $19.99 for 60 days.
>>
>> --
>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>> 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic,
>> 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>> 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

OK, already ordered it.  I'll report on it's usefulness, and then you've got 
first dibs once I'm done with both cars.  Only condition is if you sell it, 
advertise it here first.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of OK Don
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 3:29 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?



I suspect that those tools are hardened - you'd need a precision grinder
instead of a lathe, or beable to harden mild steel after you turned them on
the lathe.
If you buy ST extractor, I'll buy it after you use it for 50% ---

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> Looks like my china-bating line in the original email has un-done my
> original intent - get input on the usefulness of this extractor/pressing in
> tool.
>
> So all the 124 owners and 201 owners on this list are too frugal to spring
> for the $100 for this S.T. extractor?  Perhaps I can re-sell once I'm done
> for 50% of my cost?
>
> I'm realizing that if I had access to a lathe, I could probably copy these
> designs and make most of my own tools for far less in material cost than
> these prices.  Labor cost is another issue - I figure my labor rate is $55
> per hour, so I'd have to make the tool in less than two hours or so.  I'll
> bet a proficient machinist would only need about 15 to 30 minutes.
>
> -Max--
>

OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[OK Don]

I suspect that those tools are hardened - you'd need a precision grinder
instead of a lathe, or beable to harden mild steel after you turned them on
the lathe.
If you buy ST extractor, I'll buy it after you use it for 50% ---

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> Looks like my china-bating line in the original email has un-done my
> original intent - get input on the usefulness of this extractor/pressing in
> tool.
>
> So all the 124 owners and 201 owners on this list are too frugal to spring
> for the $100 for this S.T. extractor?  Perhaps I can re-sell once I'm done
> for 50% of my cost?
>
> I'm realizing that if I had access to a lathe, I could probably copy these
> designs and make most of my own tools for far less in material cost than
> these prices.  Labor cost is another issue - I figure my labor rate is $55
> per hour, so I'd have to make the tool in less than two hours or so.  I'll
> bet a proficient machinist would only need about 15 to 30 minutes.
>
> -Max--
>

OK Don
2001 ML320
1992 300D 2.5T
1990 300D 2.5T
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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dieselhead]

I have a spare MB splined socket i'd make you a deal on.



On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:07:54 -0500 "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"  wrote:


 Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of
 the factory tool.


I don't know where they are made. I bought a W123 pre-chamber puller and
an injection pump delivery valve holder loosening tool (the type that has
all the splines). The pre-chamber puller seemed OK, but the delivery valve
tool was almost worthless. Once I had the delivery valve holder out (by
using the holder locks as crows-foot wrenches), I had to grind a lot of
metal off the delivery valve holder and ream out the center of the Sir
Tools tool to make it just fit over the holder. I was NOT pleased. I'm
thinking about getting a rebuilt pump from Rusty and, if I do, the
correct delivery valve tool will be included with the order.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Looks like my china-bating line in the original email has un-done my original 
intent - get input on the usefulness of this extractor/pressing in tool.
 
So all the 124 owners and 201 owners on this list are too frugal to spring for 
the $100 for this S.T. extractor?  Perhaps I can re-sell once I'm done for 50% 
of my cost?
 
I'm realizing that if I had access to a lathe, I could probably copy these 
designs and make most of my own tools for far less in material cost than these 
prices.  Labor cost is another issue - I figure my labor rate is $55 per hour, 
so I'd have to make the tool in less than two hours or so.  I'll bet a 
proficient machinist would only need about 15 to 30 minutes.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 2:31 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?



On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:47:35 -0500 Allan Streib 
wrote:

> "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"
>  writes:
>
> > http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1&query=m0085&x=0&y=0
> > 
> > Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of
> > the factory tool.
>
> Doesn't appear so:  http://www.sirtools.com/

I forgot about that.

The fit and finish of the tools I bought (the prechamber puller and
delivery valve holder driver), however, leave something to be desired,
not to mention that the deliver valve holder driver did not work as
received.

I don't recall having seen before the bottom part of their web page with
Oliver Sir's comment about their one simple rule. Perhaps I should call
him about it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Craig]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:47:35 -0500 Allan Streib 
wrote:

> "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"
>  writes:
> 
> > http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1&query=m0085&x=0&y=0
> >  
> > Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of
> > the factory tool.
> 
> Doesn't appear so:  http://www.sirtools.com/

I forgot about that.

The fit and finish of the tools I bought (the prechamber puller and
delivery valve holder driver), however, leave something to be desired,
not to mention that the deliver valve holder driver did not work as
received.

I don't recall having seen before the bottom part of their web page with
Oliver Sir's comment about their one simple rule. Perhaps I should call
him about it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

[Craig]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 13:49:26 -0500 Allan Streib 
wrote:

> Craftsman are not what they used to be.  My dad had some Craftsman tools
> that I still use.  Every Craftsman tool that I've broken has been one I
> bought more recently.

I bought sets of Craftsman screw drivers and metric sockets, open-end
wrenches, and box-end wrenches when I was working on my first car (a '59
Alfa Romeo Spyder Veloce) in 1968. I still have them and haven't replaced
anything, except the 17 mm socket I split while I was trying to use it as
a lug wrench on our '72 220D/8, and a worn #2 Phillips screwdriver.



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] is carfax nuts?

[Bob Rentfro]

They have to pay for those creepy talking fox commericals.

Bob R
On Nov 13, 2010 12:08 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
> Just out of curiosity I was looking to see how much carfax
> reports are now days, they are wanting $34.99 for ONE report,
> $44.99 for 5. That is crazy. Autocheck is not much better at
> $29.99 for 1 report, but they do have unlimited at $44.99 for 30
> days. Used to be $19.99 for 60 days.
>
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> 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
> 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products

[Mountain Man]

Max wrote:
> In other words, consumers didn't drive manufacturers out of business, 
> government regulations and taxes did.
>

I don't know about that, really.
We have been trained to buy on price, hence, price = god for over 40 years.
Then when price stressed us to buy china rather than USA - we did that
- we bought china, not quality.
Somehow I cannot agree that regulation / taxes makes us buy china & price.
I think it is our fundamental greed - get more from each dollar -
rather than any analysis of quality versus more for each dollar.  It
is greed by dozens of middlemen in getting china to our store shelves.
 I have had zero problem over the past 20 years without WallyRigg &
LLChina - as I search hard for USA stuff and find good quality vintage
stuff that has put up for the test of time and is still useful.  I was
surprised to hear that even MagInstrument is made in china now - I
thought it would be USA forever.
Somehow the gov't argument does not stick - but that is pure opinion.
I agree in general about less gov't, but it is not the main problem in
the plethora of china stuff.  Price gouging by middlemen hurting both
producer and consumer is the bigger problem.
mao

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[MBZ] is carfax nuts?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Just out of curiosity I was looking to see  how much carfax 
reports are now days, they are wanting $34.99 for ONE report, 
$44.99 for 5.  That is crazy.  Autocheck is not much better at 
$29.99 for 1 report, but they do have unlimited at $44.99 for 30 
days.  Used to be $19.99 for 60 days.


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 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Craig]

On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:07:54 -0500 "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"  wrote:

> Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of
> the factory tool.

I don't know where they are made. I bought a W123 pre-chamber puller and
an injection pump delivery valve holder loosening tool (the type that has
all the splines). The pre-chamber puller seemed OK, but the delivery valve
tool was almost worthless. Once I had the delivery valve holder out (by
using the holder locks as crows-foot wrenches), I had to grind a lot of
metal off the delivery valve holder and ream out the center of the Sir
Tools tool to make it just fit over the holder. I was NOT pleased. I'm
thinking about getting a rebuilt pump from Rusty and, if I do, the
correct delivery valve tool will be included with the order.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] FW: Opinions on this trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I think it was 1200 or 1250 lbs per tire; boat weighs 1700, trailer probably 
weighs at least 500, so I was probably right at the edge or even beyond the 
limit.  
 
In my opinion, I was asking too much of those tires, that is why I bought new 
tires with substantially higher rating.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter T. Arnold
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 1:34 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Opinions on this trailer



What they 'really looked like' has NO bearing. What was their rating at
45#.

If you have no data, you are stating an opinion.


--
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31' Forest River, Cardinal Fiver

'08 RAM250 4x4, 6.7 Smoke Motor

Member of Escapees &
National Camping Travelers, A Masonic Family Camping Club


On 11/13/2010 10:22 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:
> Several years ago I got some truck tires for my boat trailer from Tire Rack 
> for $70 each; they have a pretty high load rating, 1900 lbs I think, and are 
> bias-ply tires.  I don't notice any improvement in how it tows, but I have a 
> lot more confidence that I won't blow a tire when evacuating for the next 
> hurricane.  They also have a recommended inflation pressure of 65 PSI; the 
> radial tires they replaced had a maximum pressure rating of 45 PSI and really 
> looked underinflated even at that pressure.
>
> -Max
>
>
> 
>
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter T. Arnold
> Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 9:57 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer
>
>
>
> I haven't bought a non radial tyre in about 30 years.  Yes, you have to
> buy the correct load rating.
> --
> Pete Arnold
>
> "You win some, You loose some and You wreck some!
>
> -Dale Earnhardt-
>
> On 11/13/2010 8:11 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
> wrote:
>> Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
>> small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
>> bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires 
>> were difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your 
>> trailer and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two 
>> wheels) would probably be fine.
>>
>> If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I 
>> think you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires 
>> frequently on the side of the road.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
>> Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 9:03 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:14:58 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why not radial tires?  I use them all the time?
>> Yes, indeed, why not radial tires?
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

[Allan Streib]

E M  writes:

> I went to buy some Craftsman tools a few years back, as I've heard
> they are good quality, and US made.  Every tool I picked up in the
> store, said made in china on it.  No, I didn't buy them.  Asked the
> guy what was with all the made in china stuff?  He said, don't worry,
> if it fails, they all have a lifetime warranty.  I guess that would be
> ok, assuming my time was worth nothing, and I had nothing better to do
> than run back and forth replacing tools.

Craftsman are not what they used to be.  My dad had some Craftsman tools
that I still use.  Every Craftsman tool that I've broken has been one I
bought more recently.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Allan Streib]

"Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"  
writes:

> http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1&query=m0085&x=0&y=0
>  
> Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of
> the factory tool.

Doesn't appear so:  http://www.sirtools.com/

Allan

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

[Allan Streib]

Mountain Man  writes:

> And, while the issue is about china made stuff - it is *only* because
> *all* china stuff is cheap.  Someone needs to force a china
> manufacturer to make high quality tools and blast the HF market to
> cheap-dom.  However, nobody will push any china makers to do this.
> Ah, someone sez, what about china made fill-in-the-blank.  Probably,
> but we don't see it in the stores - only in certain china stores,
> perhaps.

In China or anywhere else you get what you pay for.  Apple makes their
PCs, laptops, phones, iPods, etc. in China but they specify a level of
quality and accept nothing less.  And Apple hardware is among the best
if not the best consumer-grade stuff available.

If HF or anyone else wanted higher quality from China, they could get
it.  Not as cheaply, and that's the issue.  People who buy from HF are
NOT shopping for quality.  There are places to buy quality tools, and
they are not putting HF out of business, whether their tools are made in
China, India, Germany, or the USA.

Allan
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[MBZ] OK Don 300D update

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

 I just came in from messing with the car for a few minutes 
(while kid is taking a nap).  Fluid does not smell burned or 
anything, proper level.  Wife said after they filled it back up it 
did the same thing which I take to be slipping when trying to 
shift into a higher gear.  I just took the thing for a drive and 
it shifts just fine into all gears.  When you rev it up I can hear 
a little bit of a whine that may be coming from the tranny.  I 
suspect the filter is plugging up so I am going to change it next 
chance I get before it gets driven anymore.  I think the tranny is 
OK.  I still need to pull the IP on that car though since I think 
its the cause of the miss on #1 when it cold for the first several 
miles.  Just about everything else has been done to correct it.  
It does seem to have a decent sized oil leak coming from it 
somewhere as well.


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 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic,
 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] FW: Opinions on this trailer

[Peter T. Arnold]

What they 'really looked like' has NO bearing. What was their rating at 
45#.


If you have no data, you are stating an opinion.


--
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31' Forest River, Cardinal Fiver

'08 RAM250 4x4, 6.7 Smoke Motor

Member of Escapees &
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On 11/13/2010 10:22 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
wrote:

Several years ago I got some truck tires for my boat trailer from Tire Rack for 
$70 each; they have a pretty high load rating, 1900 lbs I think, and are 
bias-ply tires.  I don't notice any improvement in how it tows, but I have a 
lot more confidence that I won't blow a tire when evacuating for the next 
hurricane.  They also have a recommended inflation pressure of 65 PSI; the 
radial tires they replaced had a maximum pressure rating of 45 PSI and really 
looked underinflated even at that pressure.

-Max




From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter T. Arnold
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 9:57 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



I haven't bought a non radial tyre in about 30 years.  Yes, you have to
buy the correct load rating.
--
Pete Arnold

"You win some, You loose some and You wreck some!

-Dale Earnhardt-

On 11/13/2010 8:11 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:

Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires were 
difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your trailer 
and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two wheels) 
would probably be fine.

If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I think 
you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires frequently on 
the side of the road.

-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 9:03 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:14:58 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold"
wrote:


Why not radial tires?  I use them all the time?

Yes, indeed, why not radial tires?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

[E M]

Garage sales are often a good place to find old tools too.  Often good
quality, and around here, they tend not to be the items people run to
first.

I went to buy some Craftsman tools a few years back, as I've heard they are
good quality, and US made.  Every tool I picked up in the store, said made
in china on it.  No, I didn't buy them.  Asked the guy what was with all the
made in china stuff?  He said, don't worry, if it fails, they all have a
lifetime warranty.  I guess that would be ok, assuming my time was worth
nothing, and I had nothing better to do than run back and forth replacing
tools.

I think good quality sockets are something you buy once in a lifetime, and
they'll probably last the life of the guy you will them to as well, if he
gives them decent care.

Ed
300E

On 13 November 2010 11:41, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Ed wrote:
> > Good luck in finding the tool you need, and the parts at the right price
> and
> > quality for you.
>
> I still have tools that I use - well, I don't do much work anymore
> since my son works everyday on cars and offers to do my work, across
> the street.  I bought tools at a pawn shop in questionable
> neighborhood, cum fashionable neighborhood in downtown Denver 30 years
> ago.  Nice german made stuff, some craftsman stuff, individual
> sockets, drivers, breakers - all euro / USA stuff.  Now, I would
> suspect if you find a good pawn shop, you might find a CLT someplace.
> I have not searched for a pawn shop with multitude of tools in 30
> years, and I don't know how I arrived in downtown Denver 30 years ago.
>  The place was in a dark dank old shop, but orderly in every way - I
> liked the place.  Problem is today, dark dank does not pass the local
> federales oversight - gotta have clean, well lit, modern display, etc.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Sorry, I must have confused you with someone else pulling a trailer and blowing 
tires.  Was that Curt?
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



That load rating of my tires on my trailer are just fine.  Anytime
I have had to change a trailer tire it was because it picked up a
nail or something and went flat.

On 11/13/2010 7:11 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310 wrote:
> Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
> small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
> bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires 
> were difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your 
> trailer and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two 
> wheels) would probably be fine.
>
> If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I think 
> you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires frequently 
> on the side of the road.
>
> -Max
>
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  85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
http://www.okiebenz.com  


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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

That load rating of my tires on my trailer are just fine.  Anytime 
I have had to change a trailer tire it was because it picked up a 
nail or something and went flat.


On 11/13/2010 7:11 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 
53310 wrote:

Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires were 
difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your trailer 
and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two wheels) 
would probably be fine.

If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I think 
you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires frequently on 
the side of the road.

-Max

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 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Also found this one, which looks a lot more like the factory tool AND I found a 
comment/picture from Dave M. that this one seems to be nearly identical to his 
factory tool:
 
http://www.toolsource.com/advanced_search_result.php?search=1&query=m0085&x=0&y=0
 
Is Sir Tools made in China?  This tool is less than half the cost of the 
factory tool.
 
-Max



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SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 8:59 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?



124 rear suspension experts;

Yesterday I took some time to look at the spring link bushing job.  I've got to 
do this on my '95 E300, and soon also on my '87 300TD, so I'm thinking hard 
about investing in the "special tool".  Wish I could find one made in china...  
just kidding Mao and all the rest.

The service manual section 35-114 lists two special tools, one for the 201 
chassis (201 589 03 43 00) and one for the 124 chassis (129 589 01 43). 

Searching on Samstag's website, I found this for $137:

http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm  (search on that page for 0721 00 03).

This is described as a Matador bushing extractor. "Matador bushing extractor 
<http://www.samstagsales.com/images/mt0721-00-03x.jpg>  for MB models W 201 and 
W 124. Setting and extracting of bushing of the rear axle."

Attached are a couple of pictures.  What does the List think - will this tool 
work?

-Max


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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Bob Rentfro]

I'd like to have that trailer, something to pull it with, and something to
go pick up to put on it to pull home.
I don't want much.

Bob R

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> radial tires are fine, that is what I use
>
> On 11/12/2010 1:22 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
> wrote:
>
>> Cool trailer!  Looks like it means business.  There may be a metal tag
>> somewhere near the tongue with the load rating for the trailer.  Worth
>> finding that bit of info.  Short of that, maybe you can ID the maker and
>> then find more info on the trailer from them.
>>
>> Check the tires to make sure they are trailer tires, or at least truck
>> tires.  Should have a maximum pressure of something like 65 psi or higher.
>>  Should be bias-ply, NOT radial tires.
>>
>> I'll bet that if it has electric brakes, you'll need to overhaul those
>> completely.  Get a 12v winch from HF, mount that at front of trailer, and
>> you can drag home enough to make Kaleb jealous.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> 
>>
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rich Thomas
>> Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 1:19 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been needing a trailer, see this one.  At a pawn shop, girl there
>> says it has a "box" for brakes, does not know if they work.  She thinks
>> it has 5000lb axles (is there anyway to check the load rating?) but some
>> of these things are 7000lb and 1lb.  I'm thinking $1500 max, if
>> that.  New ones are like $3500, so even if it needs some work...
>>
>> http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/2054831834.html
>>
>> --R
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>  85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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>
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I can honestly say that is the first time I have ever heard 
anybody say dont get a dovetail.  I could not imagine trying to 
load a car without it.  I have never got stuck anywhere from the 
back dragging.  Sounds like he didnt have the trailer loaded 
properly and it was pushing the back down more than it should.


On 11/12/2010 6:08 PM, MG wrote:
I got a chance to look at the trailer. My advice is don't get 
it. It has a dovetail or drop on the rear end. They are just 
slightly easier to load but a friend who has one can't wait to 
get rid of it down here. He has a lot of problems with dragging 
the rear end on the ground. He got stuck one time with a tractor 
on it when he was pulling out of a gas station. He had to unload 
the tractor to get out onto the street again and then reload the 
tractor. Luckily the tractor was operational. I hate to think of 
trying to do that with a non running vehicle of any kind.


Manfred




From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rich Thomas
Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 1:19 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



I have been needing a trailer, see this one.  At a pawn shop, 
girl there
says it has a "box" for brakes, does not know if they work.  She 
thinks
it has 5000lb axles (is there anyway to check the load rating?) 
but some

of these things are 7000lb and 1lb.  I'm thinking $1500 max, if
that.  New ones are like $3500, so even if it needs some work...

http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/2054831834.html

--R


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 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

radial tires are fine, that is what I use

On 11/12/2010 1:22 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 
53310 wrote:

Cool trailer!  Looks like it means business.  There may be a metal tag 
somewhere near the tongue with the load rating for the trailer.  Worth finding 
that bit of info.  Short of that, maybe you can ID the maker and then find more 
info on the trailer from them.

Check the tires to make sure they are trailer tires, or at least truck tires.  
Should have a maximum pressure of something like 65 psi or higher.  Should be 
bias-ply, NOT radial tires.

I'll bet that if it has electric brakes, you'll need to overhaul those 
completely.  Get a 12v winch from HF, mount that at front of trailer, and you 
can drag home enough to make Kaleb jealous.

-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rich Thomas
Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 1:19 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



I have been needing a trailer, see this one.  At a pawn shop, girl there
says it has a "box" for brakes, does not know if they work.  She thinks
it has 5000lb axles (is there anyway to check the load rating?) but some
of these things are 7000lb and 1lb.  I'm thinking $1500 max, if
that.  New ones are like $3500, so even if it needs some work...

http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/2054831834.html

--R

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 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D,
http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Fundamentally we are consumers looking for the best deal for the buck, not 
idiots.  I'd prefer that the federal government get further and further OUT of 
the liberty-crushing mama-state business, reduce our regulatory (i.e. EPA) and 
tax burdens to the point that American manufacturers are one more even footing 
with the Chinese, so that the price on the shelf makes it far easier for 
consumers to select "Made in the USA".  In other words, consumers didn't drive 
manufacturers out of business, government regulations and taxes did.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Mountain Man
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products



Dieselhead wrote:
> I'd rather buy HF tools than pay made in USA prices for chinee junk. At
> least HF charges made in china proces for most of their stuff instead of
> made in USA prices for chinee junk.

The issue is *much* larger than price alone.  That is the issue we
need to grasp.
Now, do we wait for mama-federal-govt to slam our face in to the issue
of price alone is not god, or do we *see the light* now on our own and
do it?
If *we* do it, we can carry the pride of having done it rather than
having someone else do it.  We gain a self satisfaction that has not
been american for over 30 years.  These issues are priceless, but the
price god has clouded our vision.  Fundamentally, we are cheapskates,
we are freeloaders, we are masochistic, we are idiots.  Can we be
other than this? - yes.  Will we do it? - probably not.  The end will
happen before we begin to think of anything other than price.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

[Mountain Man]

Ed wrote:
> Good luck in finding the tool you need, and the parts at the right price and
> quality for you.

I still have tools that I use - well, I don't do much work anymore
since my son works everyday on cars and offers to do my work, across
the street.  I bought tools at a pawn shop in questionable
neighborhood, cum fashionable neighborhood in downtown Denver 30 years
ago.  Nice german made stuff, some craftsman stuff, individual
sockets, drivers, breakers - all euro / USA stuff.  Now, I would
suspect if you find a good pawn shop, you might find a CLT someplace.
I have not searched for a pawn shop with multitude of tools in 30
years, and I don't know how I arrived in downtown Denver 30 years ago.
 The place was in a dark dank old shop, but orderly in every way - I
liked the place.  Problem is today, dark dank does not pass the local
federales oversight - gotta have clean, well lit, modern display, etc.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

[Mountain Man]

Ed wrote:
> Nothing beats a well made quality item.  Justify buying quality anyway you
> have to, even if you have to lie to yourself hee hee, but never settle for
> junk.  Life it too short. That's why we drive Mercedes, right?!?  ;-)

And, while the issue is about china made stuff - it is *only* because
*all* china stuff is cheap.  Someone needs to force a china
manufacturer to make high quality tools and blast the HF market to
cheap-dom.  However, nobody will push any china makers to do this.
Ah, someone sez, what about china made fill-in-the-blank.  Probably,
but we don't see it in the stores - only in certain china stores,
perhaps.  Someone could make a killing by offering traditional
guarantee Snap-On quality china made tools at a price less than china
made and at much less profit.  The profit motive in china made is
s high, greed reigns.  At least that is what I read on the
internet (NOT).
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products

[Mountain Man]

Dieselhead wrote:
> I'd rather buy HF tools than pay made in USA prices for chinee junk. At
> least HF charges made in china proces for most of their stuff instead of
> made in USA prices for chinee junk.

The issue is *much* larger than price alone.  That is the issue we
need to grasp.
Now, do we wait for mama-federal-govt to slam our face in to the issue
of price alone is not god, or do we *see the light* now on our own and
do it?
If *we* do it, we can carry the pride of having done it rather than
having someone else do it.  We gain a self satisfaction that has not
been american for over 30 years.  These issues are priceless, but the
price god has clouded our vision.  Fundamentally, we are cheapskates,
we are freeloaders, we are masochistic, we are idiots.  Can we be
other than this? - yes.  Will we do it? - probably not.  The end will
happen before we begin to think of anything other than price.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products

[Dieselhead]

I needed to buy a starter switch (manual pushbutton with two terminal 
posts for bat. cables on the back) this is similar to the foot 
starter switch used on cars/trucks in the late 40s and early 50s 
after the mechanical linkage went out, and before the starter relay 
became vogue.  The switch is for a 40s vintage tractor.  I looked 
online, then decided to go to the CaseIH dealer to get the real 
thing.  Well the "real thing" was $17 and was labelled CaseIH on the 
bag and made in china.  I told the parts guy they were selling me a 5 
dollar chinee switch at a "Made in USA" price.  The chinee switch is 
notably cheaper looking and I am sure is much cheaper on the inside 
also.  I don't expect it to last long.  BTW, when I opened the CaseIH 
bag there was a plain bag inside it that contained the generic chinee 
switch.


I'd rather buy HF tools than pay made in USA prices for chinee junk. 
At least HF charges made in china proces for most of their stuff 
instead of made in USA prices for chinee junk.




Bought some salmon the other day that was labeled product of Canadagreat.

Opened the box and it said processed in Chinahuh?

Did some research and found out that the salmon is caught just 
inside the three mile limit and sold to the chinese processing 
vessels just outside the three mile limit.


This is a global scam!
John
Sent from my iPad



On Nov 12, 2010, at 8:17 PM, E M  wrote:


 I agree with much of what you say.  I feel for every dollar spent on a US
 made product, from a US owned company, from sourced domestic materials if
 possible; is making your country one dollar stronger.  Every time a dollar
 is spent on a product from a third world country, we are contributing to
 weakening the country just that little bit.

 I'm sure many think my opinions are out of step with the times, but I feel
 if more people adopted my thinking when making purchases, all purchases, the
 US would soon return to the industrial powerhouse it once was, and should be
 again!  It takes the collective willpower of a nation though, and a move
 away from the current mindset of buying cheap and disposable that is now so
 ingrained in current thinking.

 Ed
 300E

 On 12 November 2010 22:57, Mountain Man  wrote:


 Fred wrote:

 We are an in an international commercial war and the good old US of A is
 asleep.


 You are correct in that sentiment.
 Hence, I try to do without any encouragement toward the trade deficit.
 Perhaps you can find a used one on CL or borrow one from the parts
 store or local garage?
 My beef with china is quality is *never* what it should be.  Why? -
 some cheapskate middleman supplier says make it cheap for the dummies
 in US of A and he makes millions on selling cheap junque, while we
 suffer for manufacturing jobs.  This mess starts with me.  I am part
 of the war against trade with cheap junque and I have been in that war
 for over 20 years.  I used to purchase cloths from the grande catalog
 company of Maine, but none of their stuff is US of A anymore, so I
 don't buy their stuff anymore.  I was impressed with WallyRigg 25
 years ago when their adverts said US of A.  Then I started seeing
 china stuff and I don't see WallyRigg anymore.  It is not a battle of
 mind - it is a battle of dollars and we certainly are losing.  We are
 losing community here, we are losing skills here, we are losing
 quality here.  We pay for the good stuff in the long run as we pay for
 unemployment, etc.  I see absolutely *zero* argument for purchasing
 china stuff, ever.  Okay... Rant is done.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products now salmon

[LWB250]

Youngest son is in his first year at the university working on his marine 
science degree.  He's taking an aquaculture class this semester that has 
enlightened him as to the source of much of our commercial seafood.

Some pretty interesting stuff if you're a seafood consumer, especially on fish. 
(I prefer shellfish myself, not fish.)

He has mentioned some of the misleading approaches to marketing seafood as was 
mentioned.  It is apparently being done purposefully, so that the consumer 
thinks they are buying a fish from a particular region or caught/raised in a 
particular manner.

Nice.

Dan



--- On Sat, 11/13/10, Rich Thomas  wrote:

> From: Rich Thomas 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products now salmon
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Saturday, November 13, 2010, 9:59 AM
> Yesterday at Costco I got some
> fish.  Farm raised steelhead in Chile.  
> It is pretty tasty.  Anyway, they also had some
> Atlantic salmon 
> farm-raised in Chile.   Think about that.
> 
> --R
> 
> On 11/13/10 12:55 AM, John Freer wrote:
> > Bought some salmon the other day that was labeled
> product of Canadagreat.
> >
> > Opened the box and it said processed in Chinahuh?
> >
> > Did some research and found out that the salmon is
> caught just inside the three mile limit and sold to the
> chinese processing vessels just outside the three mile
> limit.
> >
> > This is a global scam!
> > John
> > Sent from my iPad
> >    
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Re: [MBZ] Radio CODE problems..

[Angelo Giaimo]

Hi all,

Tried the * at the end of the codeno change.

But you know what?  Today I got into the car and Viola! the the radio
started working again.go figure!

Thanks for your help!

Angelo Giaimo
1990 350SDL
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[MBZ] FW: Opinions on this trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Several years ago I got some truck tires for my boat trailer from Tire Rack for 
$70 each; they have a pretty high load rating, 1900 lbs I think, and are 
bias-ply tires.  I don't notice any improvement in how it tows, but I have a 
lot more confidence that I won't blow a tire when evacuating for the next 
hurricane.  They also have a recommended inflation pressure of 65 PSI; the 
radial tires they replaced had a maximum pressure rating of 45 PSI and really 
looked underinflated even at that pressure.  
 
-Max
 



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Peter T. Arnold
Sent: Sat 11/13/2010 9:57 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



I haven't bought a non radial tyre in about 30 years.  Yes, you have to
buy the correct load rating.
--
Pete Arnold

"You win some, You loose some and You wreck some!

-Dale Earnhardt-

On 11/13/2010 8:11 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
wrote:
> Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
> small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
> bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires 
> were difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your 
> trailer and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two 
> wheels) would probably be fine.
>
> If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I think 
> you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires frequently 
> on the side of the road.
>
> -Max
>
> 
>
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
> Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 9:03 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer
>
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:14:58 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold"
> wrote:
>
>> Why not radial tires?  I use them all the time?
> Yes, indeed, why not radial tires?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

[Dieselhead]

I made a CLT of sorts  for older Diesels with loop GPs from an old 
GP.  I punched out the center, and put an air line on it somehow. 
then a pigtail to the airhose.  Pull all the GPs, put the engine at 
tdc.  You have the choice of two cylinders, 50/50 of being right. 
Once you find which is tdc of the compression cycle, turn the air on 
and listen for air leaving via exhaust and intake. turn the engine 
and follow the Zundfogle.  It does not tell you leakage percent or 
anything like that but you can hear if you have problems.  depending 
on the air pressure you use, you will probably get air past the rings 
too, so that is a confusing issue.





Mountain Man, et al.
Probably Chinese of one political stripe or other.
The net search turned up a lot of leak-down testers, a lot of clones 
and other types.
The least expensive US made was $139.95, physically identical to the 
HF one. So, either it is a clone, or it is a Chinese model 
re-labeled "Made in USA."

Would the US manufacturers/distributors do that? You betcha!
I'm 68 and will probably not use this tool more than a few times, 
should I spend my scarce dollars on an inexpensive tool or not?
I, an Englishman, am, after all, going to use this tool on a German 
manufactured car. I use Snap-on tools, Craftsman, SK, Husky (US and 
Chinese), Mac and others.
We are an in an international commercial war and the good old US of 
A is asleep.

HF tomorrow.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA


On 11/12/2010 10:10 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Fred wrote:


Any caveats or comments?



China? - isn't all HF stuff China?
I don't buy china - price cannot be the only god in our shopping experience.
mao



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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers now china products now salmon

[Rich Thomas]

Yesterday at Costco I got some fish.  Farm raised steelhead in Chile.  
It is pretty tasty.  Anyway, they also had some Atlantic salmon 
farm-raised in Chile.   Think about that.


--R

On 11/13/10 12:55 AM, John Freer wrote:

Bought some salmon the other day that was labeled product of Canadagreat.

Opened the box and it said processed in Chinahuh?

Did some research and found out that the salmon is caught just inside the three 
mile limit and sold to the chinese processing vessels just outside the three 
mile limit.

This is a global scam!
John
Sent from my iPad
   


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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Peter T. Arnold]

I haven't bought a non radial tyre in about 30 years.  Yes, you have to 
buy the correct load rating.

--
Pete Arnold

"You win some, You loose some and You wreck some!

-Dale Earnhardt-

On 11/13/2010 8:11 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
wrote:

Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires were 
difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your trailer 
and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two wheels) 
would probably be fine.

If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I think 
you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires frequently on 
the side of the road.

-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 9:03 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:14:58 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold"
wrote:


Why not radial tires?  I use them all the time?

Yes, indeed, why not radial tires?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Rusty (and list) W123 240D Idle Control Cable

[Craig]

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:04:21 -0500 Ed Booher  wrote:

>  Idle Cable Stop
> end Piece For Idle Control Cable. Does Not Include Screw. OES GENUINE
>   
> And can anyone provide a diagram or picture of how this works?

Ed,

Did you ever get this figured out? Would you like a picture of our setup?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Leak-down testers

[Allan Streib]

E M  writes:

> My neighbour did the brakes on his minivan at the same with, with
> factory dealer rotors, which were labeled on the factory box, "made in
> China". hee hee.

As were the originals, most likely.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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[MBZ] 124 spring link - special bushing extractor tool?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

124 rear suspension experts;

Yesterday I took some time to look at the spring link bushing job.  I've got to 
do this on my '95 E300, and soon also on my '87 300TD, so I'm thinking hard 
about investing in the "special tool".  Wish I could find one made in china...  
just kidding Mao and all the rest.

The service manual section 35-114 lists two special tools, one for the 201 
chassis (201 589 03 43 00) and one for the 124 chassis (129 589 01 43).  

Searching on Samstag's website, I found this for $137:

http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm  (search on that page for 0721 00 03).

This is described as a Matador bushing extractor. "Matador bushing extractor 
<http://www.samstagsales.com/images/mt0721-00-03x.jpg>  for MB models W 201 and 
W 124. Setting and extracting of bushing of the rear axle."

Attached are a couple of pictures.  What does the List think - will this tool 
work?

-Max

 
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Well, when I was searching for tires for my boat trailer, I found that many 
small truck tires had the correct load rating and I think they were all 
bias-ply, and as I recall, in reading the Tire Rack material, radial tires were 
difficult to find in the correct load rating for a trailer.  If your trailer 
and load never exceeds 2000 lbs, radial tires (single axle with two wheels) 
would probably be fine.
 
If you ignore the load rating of the tires and just put on what fits, I think 
you'll have a similar experience to Kaleb, and be changing tires frequently on 
the side of the road.
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Craig
Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 9:03 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer



On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:14:58 -0500 "Peter T. Arnold" 
wrote:

> Why not radial tires?  I use them all the time?

Yes, indeed, why not radial tires?


Craig

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