[MBZ] Frankenheap 'car payment'
Welding day! Yesterday I got back the $50 gas-less Hobart welder that the neighbors had borrowed, so I whacked away a bit at the car's rust problem. I filled in one pinhole up by the driver's headlight, and then chopped away at the hole in the side by the RR passenger's feet. I removed the trim strip and cut away a bunch of the ratty rusted-out rocker, the back section I hadn't addressed last time, and wire-brushed what I could. What a mess! I removed the seat belt from the anchor, and noted that the remaining metal was so loose back there that in an accident it is doubtful that the belt would have held. Not good! I cut out the rusty part, just above the 'waterline', and started welding in new sheet metal strips. Some four or five hours later I'd finished closing up the inside wall, it is one of the worse-looking welding jobs ever. (I have a real problem with burning through, then I circle the hole and fill it back in. Often the hole spreads quite a bit before I get it back under control.) I wire-brushed everything, in the process I managed to snag the loose strings of the ruined side carpet and rip loose a big chunk of the carpet that wound itself around the brush spindle. Another mess! Anyway, with the wall cleaned off I rattle-canned some primer on there, inside and out, then some gray paint. This phase should cure the interior noise problem, but I have a lot left to do on the outside. I used anti-seize on the seat belt anchor when I put it back. When I jacked the car up I noticed that the RR rubber brake line is weeping. I need a new one, but the rust back there is bad enough that I imagine that removing the old one will be a real treat. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap 'car payment'
Wow, quite a chore! I'd say hit the rusty brake section with the good old PB or acetone/ATF mixture twice a day for ~ 3 days running, then use some good 6 point tubing wrenches. They pay for themselves very quick if you don't have a set, and autozombie or similar might have them on loan for a deposit. I think HF has a set as well. Walt On Apr 4, 2011 2:30 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Welding day! Yesterday I got back the $50 gas-less Hobart welder that the neighbors had borrowed, so I whacked away a bit at the car's rust problem. I filled in one pinhole up by the driver's headlight, and then chopped away at the hole in the side by the RR passenger's feet. I removed the trim strip and cut away a bunch of the ratty rusted-out rocker, the back section I hadn't addressed last time, and wire-brushed what I could. What a mess! I removed the seat belt from the anchor, and noted that the remaining metal was so loose back there that in an accident it is doubtful that the belt would have held. Not good! I cut out the rusty part, just above the 'waterline', and started welding in new sheet metal strips. Some four or five hours later I'd finished closing up the inside wall, it is one of the worse-looking welding jobs ever. (I have a real problem with burning through, then I circle the hole and fill it back in. Often the hole spreads quite a bit before I get it back under control.) I wire-brushed everything, in the process I managed to snag the loose strings of the ruined side carpet and rip loose a big chunk of the carpet that wound itself around the brush spindle. Another mess! Anyway, with the wall cleaned off I rattle-canned some primer on there, inside and out, then some gray paint. This phase should cure the interior noise problem, but I have a lot left to do on the outside. I used anti-seize on the seat belt anchor when I put it back. When I jacked the car up I noticed that the RR rubber brake line is weeping. I need a new one, but the rust back there is bad enough that I imagine that removing the old one will be a real treat. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap 'car payment'
Walt wrote: I'd say hit the rusty brake section with the good old PB or acetone/ATF mixture twice a day for ~ 3 days running, then use some good 6 point tubing wrenches. Also, take some emory cloth or sand paper and sand the rust off of the brake line at the fitting. That will help the penetrant get to where it needs to be and may help the line from being seized to the fitting and twisting in two when you loosen it. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon visibility
My new glass in the '95 is Pilkington, and I'm quite pleased with it. No visible defects (ripples or waves) that I can detect. The only advice I can offer is to make sure the glass guy does a really good job of re-mediating any rust that is found in the frame, and repairing any damage to the paint on the frame prior to installing the new glass. It would be really nice to be present for all steps, and have it done at your house so you have the option of pushing the car under cover from the weather so you can properly repair any rust that the glass guy can't deal with. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 283k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:45:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon visibility Dude, you're asking if ANY new glass is OK on a $400 car? And it will make your wife happy, no matter what it is, as long as it has no pits and cracks? It's the ripples and waves that I want to avoid. Heard enough horror stories, don't want to end up there. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Safety first, safety last, safety always
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...rfatality.html March 27, 2011 Bremerton WA. Post this everywhere. This poor guy evidently didn't get the message, and now he never will. Sad. Stay safe, fellas. It has happened again. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all those BMWs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Safety first, safety last, safety always
Hey Tom, you pasted an abbreviated link. Care to go back there and grab the full link from the address window? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap 'car payment'
I'd say hit the rusty brake section with the good old PB or acetone/ATF mixture twice a day for ~ 3 days running, then use some good 6 point tubing wrenches. Yeah, it's certainly the first step. I have flare wrenches, both crow's-foot and regular. HF, but they work well enough. My money's going to be on the red heat, though. It's amazing what that can do for rust when you don't care about what happens to the rubber line. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon visibility
It would be really nice to be present for all steps, Yes, but probably not going to happen. I also can't seem to find my windshield gasket. It's in the safe place... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 power steering pump
On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 21:24:55 -0500 Thomas Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote: I was pretty hesitant after reading Craig's travails with his pump, but in the 140's larger engine compartment the job was pretty easy once I found the Hidden Bolt. Congratulations! I'm glad it was easier. Now to clean up the mess the old one left under the hood. I wish you success with that one ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap 'car payment'
Brake fluid is flamable... I was going to say hit it with heat till I remembered that. Walt On Apr 4, 2011 9:27 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'd say hit the rusty brake section with the good old PB or acetone/ATF mixture twice a day for ~ 3 days running, then use some good 6 point tubing wrenches. Yeah, it's certainly the first step. I have flare wrenches, both crow's-foot and regular. HF, but they work well enough. My money's going to be on the red heat, though. It's amazing what that can do for rust when you don't care about what happens to the rubber line. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: NeXT hardware lot for sale, Portland OR
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/sys/2295587303.html Not my post, no affiliation, etc. I know some people here are into this stuff, and I wouldn't mind having one myself. (Though a practical voice in the back of my head keeps saying that I should just get a throwaway cheapo PC and put Linux on it with an imitation-NeXTstep window manager, maybe even build a PC inside a broken Cube.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: NeXT hardware lot for sale, Portland OR
They are very cool machines, interesting from a historical standpoint if you want to see where Mac OSX came from, but from a practical standpoint not very useful today. Allan On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 06:43 -0700, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/sys/2295587303.html Not my post, no affiliation, etc. I know some people here are into this stuff, and I wouldn't mind having one myself. (Though a practical voice in the back of my head keeps saying that I should just get a throwaway cheapo PC and put Linux on it with an imitation-NeXTstep window manager, maybe even build a PC inside a broken Cube.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Security screws
http://www.ifixit.com/blog/blog/2011/04/01/iphone-4-oppression-kit/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (OT BMW)Hello from the land of the long white cloud
Let us hope, as well, that the wind is not blowing in directly from Japan. Randy On 02/04/2011 9:32 PM, OK Don wrote: Be careful of what you ask for --- How are the natives fairing in the recovery efforts? On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Hendrik and Fayheni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: Hendrik who is sitting in McJunkfood, using their free wifi and still waiting for his free shake -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - F150 with a dose of MB too
My truck has developed an issue that requires me to treat it a bit like my 300D - I have to open the hood up every time I leave it. With the car, it is a vacuum problem that I have been ignoring that requires me to open the hood and push down on the stop lever in order to get the engine to stop. As of Friday morning, my 02 Supercrew has developed an electrical issue that requires me to disconnect the battery. When I turn the key off, it starts the hvac fan on high and the gauges go down rather than up. A relay under the dash activates on and off etc. A bit of looking on a Ford forum indicates it may be related to a leaking windshield allowing water to drip onto a fuse block and module under the dash. I sort of need a windshield in any event - several stone chips and a bit of sandblasting - so it is going to get a new one on Wednesday morning. I hope that solves the problem without my having to tear into it further but I am not holding my breath. Anyone been there and done that with one of the 97-03 Fords? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap 'car payment'
The one thing that I would suggest is that you cut the rubber line before heating the fittings. If you don't the pressure may well blow the line off. I expect you know or will figure out how I know that. Randy On 04/04/2011 8:38 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Brake fluid is flamable... I was going to say hit it with heat till I remembered that. Walt On Apr 4, 2011 9:27 AM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: I'd say hit the rusty brake section with the good old PB or acetone/ATF mixture twice a day for ~ 3 days running, then use some good 6 point tubing wrenches. Yeah, it's certainly the first step. I have flare wrenches, both crow's-foot and regular. HF, but they work well enough. My money's going to be on the red heat, though. It's amazing what that can do for rust when you don't care about what happens to the rubber line. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap 'car payment'
Randy Bennell wrote: The one thing that I would suggest is that you cut the rubber line before heating the fittings. If you don't the pressure may well blow the line off. I expect you know or will figure out how I know that. That way you only need one line wrench, you can put a socket on the hose fitting after removing the rubber. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I have found a problem with following the tracks of awealthy owner (Low profile tires)
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:17 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: We've spent 90 years or so trying to put plenty of cushion (rubber and air) between the passenger cabin and the road surface; how can so many for the last few years forget or ignore all of that knowledge and experience in the name of a ridiculous fashion/fad? Hear, hear! It's especially disheartening to see luxury cars now coming with 17, sometimes even 18 or 19, wheels as standard fitment. I recognize that, nowadays, cars, especially expensive ones, generally have larger brakes, and that the size of the discs dictates a minimum wheel size, but that isn't the whole story; part of the reason why a Sport Package W212 comes with 18s is just fashion, as Wilton says. I seem to remember reading somewhere that M-B engineers who came up with the multilink rear suspension for the 201 and 124 chassis considered the wheel/tire combo as an integral part of the whole when designing the system---hence why those cars, especially the 124, are so sensitive to what tires you put on them, and why the 500E suspension was reworked to handle the fat 16s it came with (it's not just a 300E suspension with stiffer springs and dampers). It seems like common sense to me that the increased firmness of the wheel/tire combo must mean compromises are made elsewhere in the suspension of the newer cars to soften the ride. In my limited experience riding in late-model cars from several manufacturers with stock low-profile tires, the ride is not as good (compared to, say, a benchmark car like a long-wheelbase 126), and I doubt one could tell any difference in handling anywhere but an autocross course. It's a lose-lose design decision. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I have found a problem with following the tracks of awealthy owner (Low profile tires)
My concern is not so much with the 18 rims, which I have been told were a delivery choice for the S420 - or possibly for the S600 which this guy was trying to make it look like. My concern is with the size of the tire on the rim. I'll have a chat with the folks at the tire store in a day or so when they install my new/used 225/40's. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I have found a problem with following the tracks of awealthy owner (Low profile tires) On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:17 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: We've spent 90 years or so trying to put plenty of cushion (rubber and air) between the passenger cabin and the road surface; how can so many for the last few years forget or ignore all of that knowledge and experience in the name of a ridiculous fashion/fad? Hear, hear! It's especially disheartening to see luxury cars now coming with 17, sometimes even 18 or 19, wheels as standard fitment. I recognize that, nowadays, cars, especially expensive ones, generally have larger brakes, and that the size of the discs dictates a minimum wheel size, but that isn't the whole story; part of the reason why a Sport Package W212 comes with 18s is just fashion, as Wilton says. I seem to remember reading somewhere that M-B engineers who came up with the multilink rear suspension for the 201 and 124 chassis considered the wheel/tire combo as an integral part of the whole when designing the system---hence why those cars, especially the 124, are so sensitive to what tires you put on them, and why the 500E suspension was reworked to handle the fat 16s it came with (it's not just a 300E suspension with stiffer springs and dampers). It seems like common sense to me that the increased firmness of the wheel/tire combo must mean compromises are made elsewhere in the suspension of the newer cars to soften the ride. In my limited experience riding in late-model cars from several manufacturers with stock low-profile tires, the ride is not as good (compared to, say, a benchmark car like a long-wheelbase 126), and I doubt one could tell any difference in handling anywhere but an autocross course. It's a lose-lose design decision. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Safety first, safety last, safety always
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Hey Tom, you pasted an abbreviated link. Care to go back there and grab the full link from the address window? A little detective work on the Seattle Times site turns this up: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/theblotter/2014617934_east_bremerton_man_crushed_whi.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E430 cat rattle
Is there an O2 sensor after the cat? I hear there are units available that will fake the signal from the O2 sensor if you clear out the cat but will that work on an MB? Does an MB expect the same signal from the O2 sensor that a Chevy does? Anyone know? Randy On 02/04/2011 9:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have had this annoying rattle on the 99 E430 for a little bit when at idle either parked or in gear. Comes and goes. I figured it was the motor mounts. Replaced them today, they were shot. Idles much more smooth but I still have the annoying rattle. I traced it down to something rattling around inside the right cat converter. It can get to rattling just right to where it almost sounds like a rod knocking or something. Anyway, what to do about this? I see rusty wants about $560 for the front exhaust section that includes the cat. I sure dont think I want to spend that. Maybe I should pull it down, cut a u shape flap in the top of it and clean (hollow) it out and have it welded back. Any other ideas or a source for cheap exhaust parts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E430 cat rattle
If you have the gear to cut open the cat, and weld it back together again, provided the tin is in good enough shape, I believe you can buy the internal cat material by the yard. I don't know the price, and I'm sure it's not cheap, but probably cheaper than buying a new factory cat. I knew a guy who used to make custom systems for porsches, and he offered cats too. He was the one who told me the material was available by the yard, or meter as the case may be. Or, just pluck one from the bone yard. The newer cats last a lot longer than the old ones, and there is no performance benefit to gutting a modern cat these days. Ed 300E On 4 April 2011 16:09, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Is there an O2 sensor after the cat? I hear there are units available that will fake the signal from the O2 sensor if you clear out the cat but will that work on an MB? Does an MB expect the same signal from the O2 sensor that a Chevy does? Anyone know? Randy On 02/04/2011 9:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have had this annoying rattle on the 99 E430 for a little bit when at idle either parked or in gear. Comes and goes. I figured it was the motor mounts. Replaced them today, they were shot. Idles much more smooth but I still have the annoying rattle. I traced it down to something rattling around inside the right cat converter. It can get to rattling just right to where it almost sounds like a rod knocking or something. Anyway, what to do about this? I see rusty wants about $560 for the front exhaust section that includes the cat. I sure dont think I want to spend that. Maybe I should pull it down, cut a u shape flap in the top of it and clean (hollow) it out and have it welded back. Any other ideas or a source for cheap exhaust parts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon visibility
If it were mine it'd be left on a heater somewhere so it'd be all dried and cracked by now... -Curt Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 06:38:46 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chicken Wagon visibility Message-ID: dd581073-5ec0-11e0-80e9-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed It would be really nice to be present for all steps, Yes, but probably not going to happen. I also can't seem to find my windshield gasket. It's in the safe place... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E430 cat rattle
Those things go for big money, they have platinum in them. In Houston there was a thriving theft industry for the things. Come out in the morning, start your car, sounds like an old stock car. Look under, cat cut off. They would hit a whole neighborhood. --R On 4/4/2011 4:21 PM, E M wrote: If you have the gear to cut open the cat, and weld it back together again, provided the tin is in good enough shape, I believe you can buy the internal cat material by the yard. I don't know the price, and I'm sure it's not cheap, but probably cheaper than buying a new factory cat. I knew a guy who used to make custom systems for porsches, and he offered cats too. He was the one who told me the material was available by the yard, or meter as the case may be. Or, just pluck one from the bone yard. The newer cats last a lot longer than the old ones, and there is no performance benefit to gutting a modern cat these days. Ed 300E On 4 April 2011 16:09, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Is there an O2 sensor after the cat? I hear there are units available that will fake the signal from the O2 sensor if you clear out the cat but will that work on an MB? Does an MB expect the same signal from the O2 sensor that a Chevy does? Anyone know? Randy On 02/04/2011 9:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have had this annoying rattle on the 99 E430 for a little bit when at idle either parked or in gear. Comes and goes. I figured it was the motor mounts. Replaced them today, they were shot. Idles much more smooth but I still have the annoying rattle. I traced it down to something rattling around inside the right cat converter. It can get to rattling just right to where it almost sounds like a rod knocking or something. Anyway, what to do about this? I see rusty wants about $560 for the front exhaust section that includes the cat. I sure dont think I want to spend that. Maybe I should pull it down, cut a u shape flap in the top of it and clean (hollow) it out and have it welded back. Any other ideas or a source for cheap exhaust parts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Security screws
These guys are good, but they are taking a drubbing in the Mac community for whipping everyone into a frenzy about a non-issue. Apple has used proprietary fasteners in various forms for years. These idiots are making it out like it's a vendetta to keep consumers out of products they own as a ploy for iFixit to sell the drivers and bits for stupidly inflated prices. MacDan --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: [MBZ] OT Security screws To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 10:45 AM http://www.ifixit.com/blog/blog/2011/04/01/iphone-4-oppression-kit/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E430 cat rattle
Are they still using platinum? I read several years back, Ford was working on a substitute for platinum in cats. When the news got out, the platinum market bombed. Ed 300E On 4 April 2011 16:51, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote: Those things go for big money, they have platinum in them. In Houston there was a thriving theft industry for the things. Come out in the morning, start your car, sounds like an old stock car. Look under, cat cut off. They would hit a whole neighborhood. --R On 4/4/2011 4:21 PM, E M wrote: If you have the gear to cut open the cat, and weld it back together again, provided the tin is in good enough shape, I believe you can buy the internal cat material by the yard. I don't know the price, and I'm sure it's not cheap, but probably cheaper than buying a new factory cat. I knew a guy who used to make custom systems for porsches, and he offered cats too. He was the one who told me the material was available by the yard, or meter as the case may be. Or, just pluck one from the bone yard. The newer cats last a lot longer than the old ones, and there is no performance benefit to gutting a modern cat these days. Ed 300E On 4 April 2011 16:09, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Is there an O2 sensor after the cat? I hear there are units available that will fake the signal from the O2 sensor if you clear out the cat but will that work on an MB? Does an MB expect the same signal from the O2 sensor that a Chevy does? Anyone know? Randy On 02/04/2011 9:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have had this annoying rattle on the 99 E430 for a little bit when at idle either parked or in gear. Comes and goes. I figured it was the motor mounts. Replaced them today, they were shot. Idles much more smooth but I still have the annoying rattle. I traced it down to something rattling around inside the right cat converter. It can get to rattling just right to where it almost sounds like a rod knocking or something. Anyway, what to do about this? I see rusty wants about $560 for the front exhaust section that includes the cat. I sure dont think I want to spend that. Maybe I should pull it down, cut a u shape flap in the top of it and clean (hollow) it out and have it welded back. Any other ideas or a source for cheap exhaust parts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E430 cat rattle
I will have to check and see. I do not remember seeing another 02 sensor after the cat but there might be. I think this thing does have 4 sensors On 4/4/2011 3:09 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Is there an O2 sensor after the cat? I hear there are units available that will fake the signal from the O2 sensor if you clear out the cat but will that work on an MB? Does an MB expect the same signal from the O2 sensor that a Chevy does? Anyone know? Randy On 02/04/2011 9:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have had this annoying rattle on the 99 E430 for a little bit when at idle either parked or in gear. Comes and goes. I figured it was the motor mounts. Replaced them today, they were shot. Idles much more smooth but I still have the annoying rattle. I traced it down to something rattling around inside the right cat converter. It can get to rattling just right to where it almost sounds like a rod knocking or something. Anyway, what to do about this? I see rusty wants about $560 for the front exhaust section that includes the cat. I sure dont think I want to spend that. Maybe I should pull it down, cut a u shape flap in the top of it and clean (hollow) it out and have it welded back. Any other ideas or a source for cheap exhaust parts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3550 - Release Date: 04/04/11 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 99 E430, 99 E320, 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3550 - Release Date: 04/04/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Good Tsunami Videos
This is the most complete and awe inspiring collection of videos of the tsunami made by the Japanese from a helicopter. For the Japanese hit by the wave, this was truly their Armageddon. This long video will stop periodically, and then resume; with its progress being measured by the moving black line at the bottom of the screen. If the link is broken, it can be pasted to a search engine. Gerry http://freevideocoding.com/flvplayer.swf?file=http://flash.vx.roo.com/streamingVX/63056/1458/20110311_japan_wave_successions_sky_1000k.mp4autostart=true ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: Testing an airbag
While lounging about the local shop, these Russians want to see what happens when an airbag discharges. Gerry -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TestAirbagenRussie.WMV Type: video/x-ms-wmv Size: 3681105 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110404/0bb3bdd2/attachment.wmv ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Testing an airbag
I have a customer that just tested his airbag in a 1990 560SEC. He hit a van that ran a red light. He was doing 60. Broke his sternum and 4 ribs. The airbag failed, go figure. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:58:56 To: Undisclosed-Recipient Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Fw: Testing an airbag While lounging about the local shop, these Russians want to see what happens when an airbag discharges. Gerry -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TestAirbagenRussie.WMV Type: video/x-ms-wmv Size: 3681105 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110404/0bb3bdd2/attachment.wmv ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Serpentine Belt RR W124 91 300D 2.5T
Howdy - Thx again for all the help in my problem with my sluggish 300D - I wish I'd ch anged the main fuel filter 1st! Anyway - about the subject -my current Belt has about 80,000 miles on it and is showing lateral cracks across the ribbing. I rec'd a new one from Rusty last week and need to start planning the job. I read the MB WSM procedure and was wondering if I need to remove the fan shroud (or lay it back out of the way as much as possible) and removing the fan assy? I had all that stuff out last time because of the other things I was doing but don't need to remove all that stuff this time. What should I do? TIA LarryT 91 300D Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! Let your engine tell you how healthy it is! Visit www.youroil.net For Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt RR W124 91 300D 2.5T
You can thread the belt around the fan blades, between the bald tips and shroud. It takes a few minutes to figure out where, but it wasn't that hard. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Howdy - Thx again for all the help in my problem with my sluggish 300D - I wish I'd ch anged the main fuel filter 1st! Anyway - about the subject -my current Belt has about 80,000 miles on it and is showing lateral cracks across the ribbing. I rec'd a new one from Rusty last week and need to start planning the job. I read the MB WSM procedure and was wondering if I need to remove the fan shroud (or lay it back out of the way as much as possible) and removing the fan assy? I had all that stuff out last time because of the other things I was doing but don't need to remove all that stuff this time. What should I do? TIA LarryT 91 300D -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Good Tsunami Videos
I'm speechless at the devastation. Nothing like it in my lifetime (60 years). On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: This is the most complete and awe inspiring collection of videos of the tsunami made by the Japanese from a helicopter. For the Japanese hit by the wave, this was truly their Armageddon. This long video will stop periodically, and then resume; with its progress being measured by the moving black line at the bottom of the screen. If the link is broken, it can be pasted to a search engine. Gerry http://freevideocoding.com/flvplayer.swf?file=http://flash.vx.roo.com/streamingVX/63056/1458/20110311_japan_wave_successions_sky_1000k.mp4autostart=true ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt RR W124 91 300D 2.5T
Yes, pull the shroud clips and pick it up to free the bottom tabs. Then you can move it around to aid threading the belt over the fan and around the pulleys. If you have not done so recently, I'd also recommend checking the bearings on the idler arm first. Then if you need to change it too, you may as well do the belt then, because you will need the fan and shroud out then. If the bearings are bad you can feel it by taking loose the spring and shock and moving the idler arm up and down by hand. x You can thread the belt around the fan blades, between the bald tips and shroud. It takes a few minutes to figure out where, but it wasn't that hard. On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Howdy - Thx again for all the help in my problem with my sluggish 300D - I wish I'd ch anged the main fuel filter 1st! Anyway - about the subject -my current Belt has about 80,000 miles on it and is showing lateral cracks across the ribbing. I rec'd a new one from Rusty last week and need to start planning the job. I read the MB WSM procedure and was wondering if I need to remove the fan shroud (or lay it back out of the way as much as possible) and removing the fan assy? I had all that stuff out last time because of the other things I was doing but don't need to remove all that stuff this time. What should I do? TIA LarryT 91 300D -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
