Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash

2011-06-03 Thread WILTON
Yeah, I'm thinking that's what it's trying to say, but a knot by itself is 
already an expression of speed/velocity -one nautical mile (6080 feet) per 
hour, so kph is the same as saying, nautical miles per hour per hour. 
'Makes it sound like acceleration, doesn't it?


Wilton

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On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:27:03 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


kph?




knots per hour?





Wilton

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Peter wrote:
 This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
 commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at
 altitude?

SNIP

 So much for the computers preventing the pilots from going outside
 the flight envelope, eh?

Evidently, at altitude, there really is less leeway available and
pilots need to be quite careful.  So that might be why the computer
cuts out at that type of margin?

As to computer rules over pilot - I think that is waaay too much
computer control.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash

2011-06-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
kilometers per hr.

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:36 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Yeah, I'm thinking that's what it's trying to say, but a knot by itself
 is already an expression of speed/velocity -one nautical mile (6080 feet)
 per hour, so kph is the same as saying, nautical miles per hour per hour.
 'Makes it sound like acceleration, doesn't it?

 Wilton

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 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:46 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash


 On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:27:03 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 kph?




 knots per hour?




 Wilton

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 Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash


 Peter wrote:
  This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
  commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at
  altitude?

 SNIP

  So much for the computers preventing the pilots from going outside
  the flight envelope, eh?

 Evidently, at altitude, there really is less leeway available and
 pilots need to be quite careful.  So that might be why the computer
 cuts out at that type of margin?

 As to computer rules over pilot - I think that is waaay too much
 computer control.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] speed

2011-06-03 Thread RELNGSON
 ...This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying 
 commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at 
 altitude?..
 
Knots are knots, never knots per hour.

The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] speed

2011-06-03 Thread Randy Bennell

On 03/06/2011 2:45 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at 
altitude?..


Knots are knots, never knots per hour.

The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.

RLE



A nautical mile is longer than a land mile. 2025 yards vs 1760 yards so 
a knot is not equal to a kilometer per hour. A kilometer is only about 
1100 yards.


Assume they are talking about kilometers per hour and it amounts to a 
margin of just under 6 miles per hour.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash

2011-06-03 Thread John Reames
GladOS (refer to Portal/Portal2)

Just wait for the AI versions!

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On Jun 2, 2011, at 21:48, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter wrote:
 This report raises another question for me:  Why are we flying commercial
 aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at altitude?
 
 SNIP
 
 So much for the computers preventing the pilots from going outside the
 flight envelope, eh?
 
 Evidently, at altitude, there really is less leeway available and
 pilots need to be quite careful.  So that might be why the computer
 cuts out at that type of margin?
 
 As to computer rules over pilot - I think that is waaay too much
 computer control.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Reputable shipping company for used engines

2011-06-03 Thread Robert Bigham
Once I thought about buying a 1934 or 35 Terraplane engine and 
transmission off ebay that was posted for local pickup only.
Location in some rural town in MA.

UPS says they will pickup and ship and thing to anywhere.  I found 
they don't include Terraplane engines and transmissions in anything.

They sent me to someone who referred me to a group called 
Craters and Freighters. 800 number.  

The 800 number people referred me to CF not far from where the engine 
was.  Boston I think.  Must be a franchise or similar.

They want to know dimensions and where to and where from and weight etc.  
I had to make my best guesses.  

They gave me a quote to go get it, crate it, and deliver it to me.  
The quote was large enough, but I'm convinced it was real.  Five or 
six times what it would have cost to buy the engine on the ground; 
a lot less than it would havae cost to go get it.  They said they 
would adjust for actual size and weight.

I decided against it, once again learning when something you want 
that is rare is offered for sale, get it.  Don't screw around.  
I may never see another comparable deal.  We get so soon old and 
so late smart.

I have had a Benz engine shipped from England to Texas by DHL, but 
I think they are now out of business in the USA.  German company.  
3 day service from Bloody old  England to Texas. Pretty cheap I thought.

Ought to be easy to find Craters and Freighters, and maybe DHL.  Good luck.




   2. Reputable shipping company for used engines (andrew strasfogel)

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 07:31:58 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Reputable shipping company for used engines

I posted my used 300D turbo engine on eBay for local pickup only. It would
be nice to quote a shipping price.  Can anyone recommend a reputable
shipping company so I can do this?  Thanks,

Andrew
1983 and 1985 300TD


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Re: [MBZ] Reputable shipping company for used engines

2011-06-03 Thread Robert Bigham
I agree that a crate built up from a pallet with plywood and/or 2x4's is a good 
idea.  My engine from England came that way with nary a hitch.  

You could also consider cocooning the thing in plastic wrap.   


   2. Re: Reputable shipping company for used engines (Allan Streib)
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Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 14:02:58 -0400
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reputable shipping company for used engines

Might even want to check into an engine shipping container, heavy polyethylene 
plastic to contain any oil or other fluid that may spill, will make the 
freight company happier to accept it.

Example: http://www.scribnerplastics.com/engcase.htm

Possibly too expensive to justify for a single shipment, though.

Allan


On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:28 -0500, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 Let me offer one further suggestion.
 
 If you are the shipper, make sure that you protect the package to 
 avoid later issues with the buyer and the shipping company.
 
 I would not only strap it on a pallet. I would build a solid box around 
 it out of plywood or something similar.
 
 I had an item shipped in from Regina to Winnipeg and the shipper did not 
 package it well. It was damaged as the truckers are a bunch of monkeys 
 who could care less.
 
 The trucking company essentially denied liablitity and suggested it was 
 not packed well enough.
 
 The vendor/shipper has ultimately provided some replacement parts but I 
 wish it had not been necessary.
 
 I also bought a machine from a fellow in Vancouver and he packed it very 
 well. No problems apart from the fact that it took quite a while to get 
 the box open and the machine out of it. I cannot recall the number of 
 screws but there were lots. The box was made out of scrap plywood and 
 2X2's etc but was very solid and did not add a whole lot of weight.
 
 
 Pack well and avoid issues later is my basic advice.
 
 Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] speed

2011-06-03 Thread WILTON

Like I said, a knot is one nautical mile (6080 feet) per hour.

Wilton

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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed



...This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at 
altitude?..



Knots are knots, never knots per hour.

The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] speed

2011-06-03 Thread WILTON
BTW, a nautical mile (6080 feet) is also one minute of arc of latitude - on 
land, on water, on ice, in the air, wherever.  A statute mile, of course, is 
5280 feet.


Because the definition of a knot is one nautical mile per hour, it is not 
necessary to repeat mph when speaking of knots.


Wilton

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Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed



Like I said, a knot is one nautical mile (6080 feet) per hour.

Wilton

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] speed



...This report raises another question for me: Why are we flying
commercial aircraft carrying passengers with a 9 kph safety margin at 
altitude?..



Knots are knots, never knots per hour.

The autopilot is always used, not hand flying it.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] Reputable shipping company for used engines

2011-06-03 Thread WILTON

Okay, now I'm gonna hafta tell my Terraplane story:

On a rainy Sunday afternoon in late Spring of 1941, my mom, dad and 3 or 4 
of us younger children were visiting our oldest brother and his wife 10 or 
12 miles from our home.  The brother was not there when we arrived, but he 
soon came in with his brother-in-law - both had been drinking.  The BIL's 
wife was there, also, and jumped him immediately about his drinking.  He 
stormed out of the house, jumped into his '34 Terraplane and sped out of the 
yard.  At the end of the driveway, he was going way too fast to make the 
turn
into the road, flew across the road and jumped the ditch into a cornfield. 
It was a small field of about 3 to 5 acres; the corn was not mature - maybe, 
about 4 feet tall.


The car never faltered, never slowed, but continued at full throttle to 
crisscross the field many times with corn and mud flying until it had 
obliterated about every stalk of corn in the field, finally jumping the 
ditch again and speeding away up the road.


This incident and others also involving the oldest brother had a profound 
effect on me such that I've always been a teetotaler - I've always thought 
that I can make big enough fool of myself completely sober.


Wilton

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From: Robert Bigham edward_baldh...@earthlink.net

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reputable shipping company for used engines



Once I thought about buying a 1934 or 35 Terraplane engine and
transmission off ebay that was posted for local pickup only.
Location in some rural town in MA.

UPS says they will pickup and ship and thing to anywhere.  I found
they don't include Terraplane engines and transmissions in anything.

They sent me to someone who referred me to a group called
Craters and Freighters. 800 number.

The 800 number people referred me to CF not far from where the engine
was.  Boston I think.  Must be a franchise or similar.

They want to know dimensions and where to and where from and weight etc.
I had to make my best guesses.

They gave me a quote to go get it, crate it, and deliver it to me.
The quote was large enough, but I'm convinced it was real.  Five or
six times what it would have cost to buy the engine on the ground;
a lot less than it would havae cost to go get it.  They said they
would adjust for actual size and weight.

I decided against it, once again learning when something you want
that is rare is offered for sale, get it.  Don't screw around.
I may never see another comparable deal.  We get so soon old and
so late smart.

I have had a Benz engine shipped from England to Texas by DHL, but
I think they are now out of business in the USA.  German company.
3 day service from Bloody old  England to Texas. Pretty cheap I thought.

Ought to be easy to find Craters and Freighters, and maybe DHL.  Good 
luck.






  2. Reputable shipping company for used engines (andrew strasfogel)

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 07:31:58 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] Reputable shipping company for used engines

I posted my used 300D turbo engine on eBay for local pickup only. It would
be nice to quote a shipping price.  Can anyone recommend a reputable
shipping company so I can do this?  Thanks,

Andrew
1983 and 1985 300TD


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Re: [MBZ] More info about Air France ocean crash

2011-06-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Kilometers per hour.  Not correct, should be in knots, but that is  
how it was reported.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Reputable shipping company for used engines

2011-06-03 Thread Mitch Haley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It-tJ8DOjIk

WILTON wrote:

Okay, now I'm gonna hafta tell my Terraplane story:



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[MBZ] My 300D 4 speed is up for sale

2011-06-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I had a spurt of energy, good weather, and a little free time today, so I
managed to get a nice CL ad together for my 300D 4 speed.

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2419771458.html

Jaime
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Re: [MBZ] My 300D 4 speed is up for sale

2011-06-03 Thread WILTON

'Looks great, Jaime; 'hope it goes well.
BTW, hood star is slightly askew.   ;)))

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] My 300D 4 speed is up for sale



I had a spurt of energy, good weather, and a little free time today, so I
managed to get a nice CL ad together for my 300D 4 speed.

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2419771458.html

Jaime
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Re: [MBZ] kuh-nots

2011-06-03 Thread RELNGSON
 Assume they are talking about kilometers per hour and it amounts to a
 margin of just under 6 miles per hour...
 
Other than a mach number, knots are the only speed related term used in 
aviation. Never kilometers.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] DHL

2011-06-03 Thread RELNGSON
 ...I have had a Benz engine shipped from England to Texas by DHL, but
 I think they are now out of business in the USA.  German company. 
 3 day service from Bloody old  England to Texas. Pretty cheap I thought...
 
DHL still ships to the US but turns the item over to someone else for US 
delivery. I ordered something online from Munich for my C300 six months ago 
and it came to New York by DHL and then USPS to Seattle. Nine days including 
sitting in Customs for two days. 

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] More knots

2011-06-03 Thread RELNGSON
 BTW, a nautical mile (6080 feet) is also one minute of arc of 
 latitude - on
 land, on water, on ice, in the air, wherever.  A statute mile, of course, 
 is
 5280 feet...
 
Also, all IFR flight distances use nautical miles.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] DHL

2011-06-03 Thread LWB250
DHL had a great service based on space availability.  If you weren't in a hurry 
for something, they would take it based on when they had the room to put it in 
the cargo hold.

I shipped an 8kW marine generator from Wisconsin to Florida one time via this 
approach.  This was a fairly heavy (400+ lbs) piece of equipment on a shipping 
skid.  If memory serves me correctly, it was only a couple hundred bucks and it 
got there in a little over a week.

The only hook was they could only do tailgate unload, so the recipient got a 
truck with a liftgate on it and picked it up at the terminal.

Dan




From: relng...@aol.com relng...@aol.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2011 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] DHL

 ...I have had a Benz engine shipped from England to Texas by DHL, but
 I think they are now out of business in the USA.  German company. 
 3 day service from Bloody old  England to Texas. Pretty cheap I thought...
 
DHL still ships to the US but turns the item over to someone else for US 
delivery. I ordered something online from Munich for my C300 six months ago 
and it came to New York by DHL and then USPS to Seattle. Nine days including 
sitting in Customs for two days. 

RLE
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[MBZ] Seat Covers

2011-06-03 Thread LWB250
My current ride has leather seats.

I live in Florida.

Leather + sunlight + heat + humidity = soggy clothes

Anyone have experience with decent quality seat covers (NOT sheepskin) that 
might alleviate my sogginess?


TIA,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella in OM-617

2011-06-03 Thread Allan Streib
Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes:

 Allan, which weight of M1? My NA OM617 used a lot of M1, OM603 uses
 about one quart per 2500 miles, OM606 about one quart per 5000 miles.

15w50.  I can never find the 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck blend.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Two Stroke Oil

2011-06-03 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes:

 Most of the Amsoil (except for Sabre) don't have dye in them, which is
 sort of a pain for premix.

Why is that?  So you can tell at a glance if the gasoline already has
oil in it or not?  I just use dedicated containers; I have a 2 gallon
can of 32:1 for my Lawn-Boy, and a 1-gallon can of 50:1 for the Stihl
weedeater.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Seat Covers

2011-06-03 Thread Allan Streib
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes:

 Anyone have experience with decent quality seat covers (NOT sheepskin)
 that might alleviate my sogginess?

A lot of taxi drivers around here seem to use those covers that look
like wooden beads.  Doesn't *look* comfortable to me but I guess they
would allow for air circulation.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Two Stroke Oil

2011-06-03 Thread Mitch Haley

Allan Streib wrote:


Why is that?  So you can tell at a glance if the gasoline already has
oil in it or not?  I just use dedicated containers; I have a 2 gallon
can of 32:1 for my Lawn-Boy, and a 1-gallon can of 50:1 for the Stihl
weedeater.



Yep. I keep a dedicated one gallon can of premium, but don't mix oil in it until 
I'm ready to run it in a saw.


BTW, virtually all Stihl stuff is supposed to run 89 pump octane or better. 
Lawnboy is probably fine on 87. If you're using oil that's good enough at 50:1 
in the strimmer, it should be fine at 50:1 in the Lawnboy. If you upen up an 
engine that's been running 50:1 of good oil, it'll be an oily mess inside.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] My 300D 4 speed is up for sale

2011-06-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Thanks Wilton... the hood star on this car has never been quite right.  I
always meant to get around to replacing it, but always forget to order one.

Jaime


On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:22 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Looks great, Jaime; 'hope it goes well.
 BTW, hood star is slightly askew.   ;)))

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 To: Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com; mercedes Mailing List 
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 Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:39 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] My 300D 4 speed is up for sale


  I had a spurt of energy, good weather, and a little free time today, so I
 managed to get a nice CL ad together for my 300D 4 speed.

 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2419771458.html

 Jaime
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Re: [MBZ] My 300D 4 speed is up for sale

2011-06-03 Thread Michael Canfield
Wow Jaime!  Nice ride.  Are all of the 4 speed parts from a 240?  I live in
a very hilly area and I would love to have a manual trans in my 83 300d with
just over 100k miles.

Thanks and good luck with your sale, Mike
 On Jun 3, 2011 7:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had a spurt of energy, good weather, and a little free time today, so I
 managed to get a nice CL ad together for my 300D 4 speed.

 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2419771458.html

 Jaime
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