Re: [MBZ] home made 124 pickiup
Computer ate most of the post, however the question is what a factory produced to comply with safety regulations versus someone with a gas axe and welder. The point I tried to make was that MB could not just cut a roof off a C124 and come up with the A124, same way some one can't chop up a S124 and come up with a functional 124 pick up. In Oz you'd have a nightmare of regulations to work through before you could register that. VW and MB have money to engineer, Billy Bob with a dream does not. Hendrik who is not going to chop up his 124 to create Frankenute 01/03/12 17:24, Alex Chamberlain wrote: double-cab Type IIs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BioD was Volt vs. Gas
I wrote it that way for a reason... -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:48:41 -0500 From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] BioD was Volt vs. Gas Message-ID: 6EF67AB2CADB49EC990C61FC71D5DB7C@ScottPC Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Question: What do you call a place that exports raw materials and imports finished goods? Answer: A colony. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 4:39 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] BioD was Volt vs. Gas Worldwide lack of refineries is the problem right now entirely, theres actually a surplus of oil (although that doesn't make much sense with prices, blame that on speculators) and a shortage of refined product. I'm surprised the Chinese haven't set up a mega-refinery yet. Buy our raw material and sell us finished product -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Update
Pretty common, my 240D is trying to do that too. Thus far I've been almost keeping up with it. I don't use flimsy old microwave ovens, I use computer cases! The areas I weld in are stronger than what they replace... This is a good excuse for you to weld. -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:50:12 -0800 From: Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 240D Update Message-ID: BC10BCE5DCC74F8A88949F303D7B9189@KDogHP Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 I found some things that were better than expected, and a couple things that were a bit worse. The sway bar link isn?t broken. The dragging sound was the exhaust pipe rubbing on the axle. As a temporary repair, I replaced the missing donut with a couple zip ties until I get the parts. The bad part was when I jacked up the left front to switch out the badly worn tire with the much better spare. This was when I found a bit of rot under the jack point, same situation on the other side. The rocker panels and floorboards seem ok, but as you go under the car, there?s rot in the whole corner on both sides just behind the wheelwells. This isn?t turning out to be such a good car after all. I?ll probably end up getting my money back out of it and move on. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 1977 240D 315Kmi, Liesel the rusty Diesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Update
My younger son did a quite decent job on our old 95 4Runner. It was rusted out over the rear wheel arches on both sides and at the lower edge of the rear quarters going back to the bumper. He cut and welded pieces of sheet metal into the areas where it was bad. It is not perfect and it does not look stock but it is solid. We have a Mig welder and he did a good job for a first attempt at this sort of thing. If your goal is a solid transportation car and not a show winner, then there is no reason why you cannot do the same. Randy On 01/03/2012 11:33 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Pretty common, my 240D is trying to do that too. Thus far I've been almost keeping up with it. I don't use flimsy old microwave ovens, I use computer cases! The areas I weld in are stronger than what they replace... This is a good excuse for you to weld. -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:50:12 -0800 From: Kevin Kralykr...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 240D Update Message-ID:BC10BCE5DCC74F8A88949F303D7B9189@KDogHP Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 I found some things that were better than expected, and a couple things that were a bit worse. The sway bar link isn?t broken. The dragging sound was the exhaust pipe rubbing on the axle. As a temporary repair, I replaced the missing donut with a couple zip ties until I get the parts. The bad part was when I jacked up the left front to switch out the badly worn tire with the much better spare. This was when I found a bit of rot under the jack point, same situation on the other side. The rocker panels and floorboards seem ok, but as you go under the car, there?s rot in the whole corner on both sides just behind the wheelwells. This isn?t turning out to be such a good car after all. I?ll probably end up getting my money back out of it and move on. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 1977 240D 315Kmi, Liesel the rusty Diesel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] How to delete your Google Browsing History before new policy
I'm sure many of you geeks are already aware of this: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/320137#ixzz1nissqAwZ Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Speaking of Geeks...
Did everyone see that the RaspberryPi computer was released for sale today? Google RaspberryPi for details... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Update
Curt Raymond wrote: This is a good excuse for you to weld. That post was from Kevin. I know he is amazing - but welding without being able to see would be quite a trick. Kevin, if you _do_ weld - I'd sure like to know how you do it! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to delete your Google Browsing History before new policy
would have been nice to share this *before* the changes took place this morning,... cheers! e On 01/Mar/12 10:26, Greg Fiorentino wrote: I'm sure many of you geeks are already aware of this: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/320137#ixzz1nissqAwZ Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Update
On 01/03/2012 12:51 PM, Fmiser wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: This is a good excuse for you to weld. That post was from Kevin. I know he is amazing - but welding without being able to see would be quite a trick. Kevin, if you _do_ weld - I'd sure like to know how you do it! --Philip Now come one Philip. If he is going to drive the car while blind, then I fail to understand why he cannot also weld it. Randy By the way, I had a client who was blind. Used to come to my office with his guide dog etc. He was telling me about painting the inside of his home. I must admit that I wondered what sort of job he did. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to delete your Google Browsing History before new policy
I just saw this as I was trying to wake up with my morning cuppa java. I guess I did this before the caffeine kicked in. :-( Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to delete your Google Browsing History before new policy would have been nice to share this *before* the changes took place this morning,... cheers! e On 01/Mar/12 10:26, Greg Fiorentino wrote: I'm sure many of you geeks are already aware of this: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/320137#ixzz1nissqAwZ Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Scary noise from engine bay
Thought we we had major problems with my son-in-law's 300TD a couple of days ago. He left it idling before work and came out to stalled vehicle. When he cranked it over it sounded like somebody dumped a box of rocks in the block. Upon hearing the noise he did not attempt to start it again. Being on his way to work he jumped in the spare car and left. Before he had time to look further into the situation my daughter called him and announced it was time to have a baby. Griffith Bryant, 8 lbs. 2 oz. We just went out to take a look at it. Any guesses as to what the cause of the noise is? First time Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scary noise from engine bay
Broken air cleaner mount? Dan On Mar 1, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Mike Esh wrote: Thought we we had major problems with my son-in-law's 300TD a couple of days ago. He left it idling before work and came out to stalled vehicle. When he cranked it over it sounded like somebody dumped a box of rocks in the block. Upon hearing the noise he did not attempt to start it again. Being on his way to work he jumped in the spare car and left. Before he had time to look further into the situation my daughter called him and announced it was time to have a baby. Griffith Bryant, 8 lbs. 2 oz. We just went out to take a look at it. Any guesses as to what the cause of the noise is? First time Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ain't This Grand?
This Gmail thing is great! I haven't had time to sit down and mess with getting all my accounts set up and importing contacts, etc., until today. Just ran some tests as far as using different domain accounts, reply to's and the like. Everything works like a champ. Nice. This technology stuff is really cool! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scary noise from engine bay
From: michael...@me.com Thought we we had major problems with my son-in-law's 300TD a couple of days ago. He left it idling before work and came out to stalled vehicle. When he cranked it over it sounded like somebody dumped a box of rocks in the block. Before he had time to look further into the situation my daughter called him and announced it was time to have a baby. Griffith Bryant, 8 lbs. 2 oz. Any guesses as to what the cause of the noise is? Crying baby. Hungry. Dirty diaper. Colic. Congratulations on being a grandpa. Oh, the car. Motor mount, air cleaner, vacuum pump, nailing injector(s) (from bad fuel), bad rod bearings... From experience, if it is the motor mounts, change them ASAP and change the oil cooler lines while you are in there. Worn motor mounts will destroy the oil cooler lines. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scary noise from engine bay
My guess is the fan hitting something... Jaime On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Thought we we had major problems with my son-in-law's 300TD a couple of days ago. He left it idling before work and came out to stalled vehicle. When he cranked it over it sounded like somebody dumped a box of rocks in the block. Upon hearing the noise he did not attempt to start it again. Being on his way to work he jumped in the spare car and left. Before he had time to look further into the situation my daughter called him and announced it was time to have a baby. Griffith Bryant, 8 lbs. 2 oz. We just went out to take a look at it. Any guesses as to what the cause of the noise is? First time Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scary noise from engine bay
Good guess, louder than that. Michael E. Esh On Mar 1, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Broken air cleaner mount? Dan On Mar 1, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Mike Esh wrote: Thought we we had major problems with my son-in-law's 300TD a couple of days ago. He left it idling before work and came out to stalled vehicle. When he cranked it over it sounded like somebody dumped a box of rocks in the block. Upon hearing the noise he did not attempt to start it again. Being on his way to work he jumped in the spare car and left. Before he had time to look further into the situation my daughter called him and announced it was time to have a baby. Griffith Bryant, 8 lbs. 2 oz. We just went out to take a look at it. Any guesses as to what the cause of the noise is? First time Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scary noise from engine bay
You got it Jaimie! All 4bolts holding the fan fell off and the fan and pulley were left dangling. Any one know Rusty's part number? Michael E. Esh On Mar 1, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: My guess is the fan hitting something... Jaime On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Thought we we had major problems with my son-in-law's 300TD a couple of days ago. He left it idling before work and came out to stalled vehicle. When he cranked it over it sounded like somebody dumped a box of rocks in the block. Upon hearing the noise he did not attempt to start it again. Being on his way to work he jumped in the spare car and left. Before he had time to look further into the situation my daughter called him and announced it was time to have a baby. Griffith Bryant, 8 lbs. 2 oz. We just went out to take a look at it. Any guesses as to what the cause of the noise is? First time Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scary noise from engine bay
Mike Esh wrote: You got it Jaimie! All 4bolts holding the fan fell off and the fan and pulley were left dangling. Any one know Rusty's part number? For what, the bolts, the fan, or the radiator? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scary noise from engine bay
Oh man... I hope the damage isn't too bad! Good luck! Jaime On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: You got it Jaimie! All 4bolts holding the fan fell off and the fan and pulley were left dangling. Any one know Rusty's part number? Michael E. Esh On Mar 1, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: My guess is the fan hitting something... Jaime On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Thought we we had major problems with my son-in-law's 300TD a couple of days ago. He left it idling before work and came out to stalled vehicle. When he cranked it over it sounded like somebody dumped a box of rocks in the block. Upon hearing the noise he did not attempt to start it again. Being on his way to work he jumped in the spare car and left. Before he had time to look further into the situation my daughter called him and announced it was time to have a baby. Griffith Bryant, 8 lbs. 2 oz. We just went out to take a look at it. Any guesses as to what the cause of the noise is? First time Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Geeks...
That was yesterday, and they sold out in a few hours. I am on the waiting list for the next batch though - ought to be a fun toy. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Did everyone see that the RaspberryPi computer was released for sale today? Google RaspberryPi for details... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Update
Heat sensing? On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: This is a good excuse for you to weld. That post was from Kevin. I know he is amazing - but welding without being able to see would be quite a trick. Kevin, if you _do_ weld - I'd sure like to know how you do it! --Philip -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
Seems someone is in the pocket of the oil companies and is spewing FUD: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/120145-chevy-volt-battery-life-fail-or-fox-news-fail-somebody-has-the-math-wrong Pity the poor Chevrolet Volt. It’s built by GM, the company that took a multi-billion-dollar taxpayer bailout. It’s a car that comes with a $7,500 government rebate. Now it’s being dissed by Fox News and chain-mailers for costing more to drive than a gasoline-powered car selling for a third as much. GM got hosed, not so much by Fox News as by a parallel chain letter (“Cost to Operate a Chevy Volt”) that overstated the cost of electricity by a factor of 10. The Volt costs a lot to buy but it’s clearly cheaper to run than a gasoline-only car. Snopes.com did a good job deconstructing the chain mail. On battery power, the Volt costs around 5-7 cents a mile to drive, less not more than a gas-engine car. Here’s the backstory. Perhaps tired of being dinged by Fox for the bailout thing and for a compact car that costs almost $40,000 after rebate ($46,500 list), GM put a press fleet Chevrolet Volt in the hands of Eric Bolling of Fox’s The Five (video embedded below). Maybe they thought Bolling would feel the same kind of love for the Volt that tree huggers experience upon climbing into their first Toyota Prius. Not quite. Bolling criticized the battery-power performance of the Volt, about 25 miles, when the Nissan Leaf approaches 100 miles. Bolling noted that, two days in a row, “The car ran out of electricity in the Lincoln Tunnel on my way to work,” which prompted a co-host Kimberly Guilfoyle to pipe up and say, “I’d rather roller skate backwards in the Lincoln Tunnel than drive that thing and break down.” Bolling added, “Why would you put out an electric car that gets only 25 miles?” The show mistook the Volt and Leaf as the same kind of car. The Leaf is an electric-only vehicle, good for 75 miles, maybe 100, then you park it. GM calls the Volt an extended range vehicle; “hybrid with a big battery” would be a good description, too. Where a hybrid might get two miles from its battery, the Volt with its bigger battery pack gets 25 to (on a very good day) 50 miles. When the Volt runs out of battery power, it auto-switches to the small gasoline engine and soldiers on for 300 miles. The reason for the medium-size battery is because most daily driving is less than 25 miles, which means the car can be charged overnight, and for longer trips it switches to gasoline. The “Cost to Operate a Chevy Volt” chain letter went beyond the Fair and Balanced Network’s opinion that the Volt wasn’t a good deal financially for taxpayer or Volt-owner. Using a figure of $1.16 per kilowatt hour for electricity, the chain letter concluded, “So Obama wants us to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more than 6 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across the country.” Electricity actually costs about $.127 per kilowatt hour now; a tenth of what the chain email states. The battery pack stores 16 kWh of energy, but, says GM, not all 16 kWh are used. A full charge adds 9.6 kWh that can be used to move the Volt and another 3-4 kWh are used in charging on a 120-volt system, less with a more efficient 220-volt charger. So a full charge on 120V power consumes 13.4 kWh of electricity, or $1.57. The Fox News 25-mile jaunt thus cost 6.3 cents per mile; if the Volt got 35 miles on a charge (not unusual), it would be 4.5 cents per mile. A compact car getting 35 mpg would cost 10 cents per mile using $3.50-a-gallon gasoline. The chain letter’s claim that it would take three times as long to cross the US as a gasoline car assumes the Volt owner would stop to refill the gas tank *and* recharge the battery each time, meaning you’d drive 4.5 hours then stop for 10 hours, drive 4.5, stop for 10, limping across America. That’s absurd but that’s what you expect when you get letters prefaced by “Urgent. You MUST read this and pass it along.” A response on a GM blog was right on target when it started by quoting mathematician and ex-Dartmouth College president John Kemeny: “The man ignorant of mathematics will be increasingly limited in his grasp of the main forces of civilization.” The GM bailout may or may not have been a good idea. But GM is back now, its new cars range from decent to world-classhttp://www.extremetech.com/extreme/100849-clueless-on-tech-how-gm-messed-up-the-chevrolet-sonic, and it’s on a pace that might see it earning $10 billion in profits this year. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is
Re: [MBZ] 240D Update
He must be able to see some, he runs RC cars doesn't he? I doubt he just fixes and trades 'em... -Curt Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:51:37 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Update Message-ID: 20120301125137.c8f42dae.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt Raymond wrote: This is a good excuse for you to weld. That post was from Kevin. I know he is amazing - but welding without being able to see would be quite a trick. Kevin, if you _do_ weld - I'd sure like to know how you do it! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Update
Curt Raymond wrote: He must be able to see some, he runs RC cars doesn't he? I doubt he just fixes and trades 'em... I thought he was totally unresponsive to light, but I could be wrong... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Scary noise from engine bay
Just the bolts. Thank goodness it failed at idle. I am not sure why it shut down...just lucky? Michael E. Esh On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mike Esh wrote: You got it Jaimie! All 4bolts holding the fan fell off and the fan and pulley were left dangling. Any one know Rusty's part number? For what, the bolts, the fan, or the radiator? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] HP TouchPad Dual Boot
Success! With very good instructions from the Android forum, and the help of the wife's PC, I loaded and am now running a dual boot environment on my HP TouchPad with WebOS on one partition and Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) on the other. The boot loader allows me to choose the OS upon power-up. Just about everything but the camera works in Android. Gotta spend some time playing with it to see exactly what it can do Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Geeks???
Pardon my ignorance but what is so exciting about this Raspberry Pie thingy. From what I can see it's just a small mother board running Debian. Hendrik who is trying to get java to work On 02/03/12 11:51, OK Don wrote: That was yesterday, and they sold out in a few hours. I am on the waiting list for the next batch though - ought to be a fun toy. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Did everyone see that the RaspberryPi computer was released for sale today? Google RaspberryPi for details... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204653604577251461989702208.html --R On 3/1/12 8:28 PM, OK Don wrote: Seems someone is in the pocket of the oil companies and is spewing FUD: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/120145-chevy-volt-battery-life-fail-or-fox-news-fail-somebody-has-the-math-wrong Pity the poor Chevrolet Volt. It’s built by GM, the company that took a multi-billion-dollar taxpayer bailout. It’s a car that comes with a $7,500 government rebate. Now it’s being dissed by Fox News and chain-mailers for costing more to drive than a gasoline-powered car selling for a third as much. GM got hosed, not so much by Fox News as by a parallel chain letter (“Cost to Operate a Chevy Volt”) that overstated the cost of electricity by a factor of 10. The Volt costs a lot to buy but it’s clearly cheaper to run than a gasoline-only car. Snopes.com did a good job deconstructing the chain mail. On battery power, the Volt costs around 5-7 cents a mile to drive, less not more than a gas-engine car. Here’s the backstory. Perhaps tired of being dinged by Fox for the bailout thing and for a compact car that costs almost $40,000 after rebate ($46,500 list), GM put a press fleet Chevrolet Volt in the hands of Eric Bolling of Fox’s The Five (video embedded below). Maybe they thought Bolling would feel the same kind of love for the Volt that tree huggers experience upon climbing into their first Toyota Prius. Not quite. Bolling criticized the battery-power performance of the Volt, about 25 miles, when the Nissan Leaf approaches 100 miles. Bolling noted that, two days in a row, “The car ran out of electricity in the Lincoln Tunnel on my way to work,” which prompted a co-host Kimberly Guilfoyle to pipe up and say, “I’d rather roller skate backwards in the Lincoln Tunnel than drive that thing and break down.” Bolling added, “Why would you put out an electric car that gets only 25 miles?” The show mistook the Volt and Leaf as the same kind of car. The Leaf is an electric-only vehicle, good for 75 miles, maybe 100, then you park it. GM calls the Volt an extended range vehicle; “hybrid with a big battery” would be a good description, too. Where a hybrid might get two miles from its battery, the Volt with its bigger battery pack gets 25 to (on a very good day) 50 miles. When the Volt runs out of battery power, it auto-switches to the small gasoline engine and soldiers on for 300 miles. The reason for the medium-size battery is because most daily driving is less than 25 miles, which means the car can be charged overnight, and for longer trips it switches to gasoline. The “Cost to Operate a Chevy Volt” chain letter went beyond the Fair and Balanced Network’s opinion that the Volt wasn’t a good deal financially for taxpayer or Volt-owner. Using a figure of $1.16 per kilowatt hour for electricity, the chain letter concluded, “So Obama wants us to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more than 6 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across the country.” Electricity actually costs about $.127 per kilowatt hour now; a tenth of what the chain email states. The battery pack stores 16 kWh of energy, but, says GM, not all 16 kWh are used. A full charge adds 9.6 kWh that can be used to move the Volt and another 3-4 kWh are used in charging on a 120-volt system, less with a more efficient 220-volt charger. So a full charge on 120V power consumes 13.4 kWh of electricity, or $1.57. The Fox News 25-mile jaunt thus cost 6.3 cents per mile; if the Volt got 35 miles on a charge (not unusual), it would be 4.5 cents per mile. A compact car getting 35 mpg would cost 10 cents per mile using $3.50-a-gallon gasoline. The chain letter’s claim that it would take three times as long to cross the US as a gasoline car assumes the Volt owner would stop to refill the gas tank *and* recharge the battery each time, meaning you’d drive 4.5 hours then stop for 10 hours, drive 4.5, stop for 10, limping across America. That’s absurd but that’s what you expect when you get letters prefaced by “Urgent. You MUST read this and pass it along.” A response on a GM blog was right on target when it started by quoting mathematician and ex-Dartmouth College president John Kemeny: “The man ignorant of mathematics will be increasingly limited in his grasp of the main forces of civilization.” The GM bailout may or may not have been a good idea. But GM is back now, its new cars range from decent to world-classhttp://www.extremetech.com/extreme/100849-clueless-on-tech-how-gm-messed-up-the-chevrolet-sonic, and it’s on a pace that might see it earning $10 billion in profits this year. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Hans Neureiterdiese...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204909104577235241393891490.html --R On 3/1/12 10:58 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204653604577251461989702208.html --R On 3/1/12 8:28 PM, OK Don wrote: Seems someone is in the pocket of the oil companies and is spewing FUD: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/120145-chevy-volt-battery-life-fail-or-fox-news-fail-somebody-has-the-math-wrong ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Geeks???
And pi day isn't for another 2 weeks! --R On 3/1/12 10:54 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Pardon my ignorance but what is so exciting about this Raspberry Pie thingy. From what I can see it's just a small mother board running Debian. Hendrik who is trying to get java to work On 02/03/12 11:51, OK Don wrote: That was yesterday, and they sold out in a few hours. I am on the waiting list for the next batch though - ought to be a fun toy. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Did everyone see that the RaspberryPi computer was released for sale today? Google RaspberryPi for details... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Update
Yes, I'm totally blind, 100%. I have pretty good luck with mechanical things, but I haven't tried soldering or welding. Of course, I couldn't see the color of the metal to determine if I was welding or just blasting through something. It's too hot to touch to try to find out where I would be working...OUCH! I'll have to have someone else weld up this car, either a shop or preferably a new owner. There are quite a few cars out there with generally rust free bodies. When I'm in the market again LOOKING for my next Mercedes, I'm crawling underneath it, having someone look underneath for me, or taking it somewhere for a real inspection. Once again, the saying proves true. THERE'S NOTHING MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A CHEAP MERCEDES Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 1977 240D 315Kmi, Rusty (just kidding, Rusty!) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
