Re: [MBZ] Daily digest format

[Dieselhead]

Yep.  I set up a gmail acct for this, and get the gmail with Eudora. 
Eudora keeps all the emails in a box for me.



OK Don  writes:


 First, this is not a Yahoo group - so it works differently.
 I tried the digest mode for a while, but ended up with a gmail account
 specifically for this group. All the email in the gmail inbox is from this
 group, and nothing else. Gmail does a good job of grouping the emails by
 subject, so all the messages for a given thread are together.


I agree.  This list uses Mailman software, and the digest and archives
suck.  Get the individual emails, and use a good email client to read
them.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] One for Wilton

[Dieselhead]

That 125cc twin sounded like a 2 stroke.  Yamaha had a 2 cyl 175 
ringading, right?  Did Yamaha also make a 125 cc twin?



I had an older 3 wheel mobility scooter that my uncle gave me when 
he upgraded about 10 years ago.  I was intending to put a gokart 
type engine on it, probably a 2 stroke.  The project never got off 
the ground, and I ended up passing it on.  Dad now has a mobility 
scooter of his own, and he would have gotten quite a kick out of it!


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
1977 240D 315Kmi, Liesel the Diesel

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Re: [MBZ] 700K-mile 300SD

[Dieselhead]

Glad you mentioned that Max.  I was going to but decided to see what 
everyone else said.  While the symptoms are classic valve guides for 
a NA gasser, with a turbodiesel, the turbo might be the culprit.  I 
just replaced on on a OM603, and the symptoms were the same, except 
it did not have 650K on it.


Congrats.  I have over 400K on a SDL, but gave up on it because it 
got hit in the doors and the tinworm cancer was on all body panels. 
Klebs SDL was cheaper than repairs.



Rolling Hills Farm  wrote:


Hi all,

My beloved 1984 W126 300SD, as of today, has 698,883 miles on it.
Still going on the original engine, with no overhaul since new.



Clint, how certain is your diagnoses that the valve guides are the 
problem?  At that mileage, smoke and reduced power might also mean a 
faulty turbo, I believe.


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'95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] CL Winning posting of the week

[Dieselhead]

Naa, I think it must be near Adelaide, somewhere not too far from Hendrick.



http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2929517209.html

Must have been in New Zealand


clay


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1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
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Re: [MBZ] Pinstripes 85 300tdt

[andrew strasfogel]

DIsagree!  I liked the pinstripes on all my wagons.

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM,   wrote:
> No, no no no. No Mercedes came with pinstipes. It was dealer scam to make 
> more money. Leave it alone.
>
>
>
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>
> -Original Message-
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> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 02:47:33
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] Pinstripes 85 300tdt
>
> Hi All,
>
> Random trivia question: did the wagon come with pinstripes? Just repainted. I 
> will put them back if they came from the factory.
>
> Thanks,
> Karl
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Re: [MBZ] 700K-mile 300SD

[Max]

Rolling Hills Farm  wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>My beloved 1984 W126 300SD, as of today, has 698,883 miles on it.
> Still going on the original engine, with no overhaul since new.
> 

Clint, how certain is your diagnoses that the valve guides are the problem?  At 
that mileage, smoke and reduced power might also mean a faulty turbo, I believe.

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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 700K-mile 300SD

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Clint,
Those who tell you not to bother with repair are letting the odometer
influence them.

I like to tell people that these cars will run as long someone is willing
to maintain and repair them.  And they can be indefinitely repaired.  Its
when people start cutting corners and making compromises that things start
to turn sour.

Find yourself a mechanic who understands and have a valve job done.  Its a
small investment into a car that have already given you so much.

Its likely your engine doesn't need any bottom end work since its been well
maintained.

It takes a special dedication to do what you've done.  Keep up the good
work!

Jaime


On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Rolling Hills Farm <
rollinghillsma...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My beloved 1984 W126 300SD, as of today, has 698,883 miles on it.  Still
> going on the original engine, with no overhaul since new.  Majority of the
> miles are highway miles, and just like tractor-trailers that typically run
> a million miles with no sweat due to the fact that they stay on the
> highway, the engine is still running like a champ.  About 6 or so years
> back, it started using oil, somewhere around 640K miles or so.  Before
> then, it didn't even use oil between 3K-mile oil changes!  Determined that
> the valve guides are leaky, thus the extra smoking and oil consumption.
>  Just in the past couple months, the smoking has gotten worse.  My goal
> since the day I bought the car 13 years or so ago, was to see just how many
> miles it would go without an overhaul before it absolutely gave up the
> ghost and puked.  I have a parts car with a perfectly-running engine
> (unfortunately unknown mileage), which will be replacing the engine in the
> SD once it
>  finally dies (car itself is rust-free and still in unbelievably great
> condition and a pure joy to drive, and after a cosmetic restoration about
> 10 years ago, is still GORGEOUS).
>
> Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on valve guide replacement.  I've
> had 5 different people tell me that I should just leave well-enough alone,
> and not replace the valve guides, but rather just keep driving it, adding
> oil, and put up with the smoking.  Something about replacing valve guides
> that might screw up something else and make things worse than they are.  As
> I said, I want to see just how far I can push this original engine before
> it dies.  I don't abuse the car; I very,very seldom drive it over 65 mph,
> and religiously do oil changes every 3K miles.  It's using around 1.5
> quarts between oil changes, which to me, is incredible given the fact that
> the engine has never been into since the day it was built.
>
> Any ideas?  Smoking issue is worse than before.  Every time I take off
> from a stoplight, I have a lot of blue smoke (burning oil), and when I
> start it the first time every day, it belches smoke like you wouldn't
> believe.  Just in regular driving though, there's no visible smoke.  Engine
> still sounds awesome (that opinion coming from comparing it to the other 20
> or so 2.4L and 3.0L cars I've owned over the years).  Power isn't what it
> used to be, but that's to be expected.  I use Marvel Mystery Oil every
> other oil change, don't know if that's any help or not, but I use it.
>  Someone recommended that I use some Lucas oil additive, maybe a half-quart
> every other oil change.  Any advice as to how I can keep this old girl
> going as long as possible, and stretching out the miles as long as I can
> would be MOST appreciated!!!  My wife jokingly tells people that I love
> that old car more than I love her, but ya know that isn't true, lol!!  It's
> certainly a
>  part of me, like family.  I am determined to reach one million miles
> eventually, although I know there's a snowball's chance in Purgatory that
> it will happen with this original engine.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Clint Lowe
> Rolling Hills Farm
>
> Nothing will make a driver more faithful to a car
> than a car that is faithful to its driver.
> Life is too short, and the road too long,
> to drive anything less than a Mercedes-Benz.
>
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Re: [MBZ] One for Wilton

[WILTON]

BTW, mine's a three-wheeler - lighter, quicker, easier for me to 
assemble/disassemble from/to the trunk in 30 sec.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] One for Wilton


I had an older 3 wheel mobility scooter that my uncle gave me when he 
upgraded about 10 years ago.  I was intending to put a gokart type engine 
on it, probably a 2 stroke.  The project never got off the ground, and I 
ended up passing it on.  Dad now has a mobility scooter of his own, and he 
would have gotten quite a kick out of it!


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
1977 240D 315Kmi, Liesel the Diesel

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Re: [MBZ] Daily digest format

[Allan Streib]

OK Don  writes:

> First, this is not a Yahoo group - so it works differently.
> I tried the digest mode for a while, but ended up with a gmail account
> specifically for this group. All the email in the gmail inbox is from this
> group, and nothing else. Gmail does a good job of grouping the emails by
> subject, so all the messages for a given thread are together.

I agree.  This list uses Mailman software, and the digest and archives
suck.  Get the individual emails, and use a good email client to read
them.

Allan

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1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] One for Wilton

[Kevin Kraly]

I had an older 3 wheel mobility scooter that my uncle gave me when he 
upgraded about 10 years ago.  I was intending to put a gokart type engine on 
it, probably a 2 stroke.  The project never got off the ground, and I ended 
up passing it on.  Dad now has a mobility scooter of his own, and he would 
have gotten quite a kick out of it!


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
1977 240D 315Kmi, Liesel the Diesel 



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Re: [MBZ] 700K-mile 300SD

[Peter Frederick]

It's way past Italian Tuneup time, it's due for a rebuild.  Will last  
as long as it did the first time if done correctly, but it won't be  
cheap.


Peter

On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:41 PM, OK Don wrote:

Someone with more experience/knowledge should chime in here, but  
AFAIK,

there is no manifold vacuum in these Diesels to make them smoke as you
describe due to worn valve guides or valve seals. I thin you've got  
worn or
stuck rings. If you have been driving it gently, youve probably  
carboned up
the rings, etc. The usula cure is an "Italian tuneup", also known  
as "drive
it like you stole it". That having been siad, my highest mileage MB  
is only

370,000 miles, so what do I konw?

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Rolling Hills Farm <
rollinghillsma...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Hi all,

My beloved 1984 W126 300SD, as of today, has 698,883 miles on it.   
Still
going on the original engine, with no overhaul since new.   
Majority of the
miles are highway miles, and just like tractor-trailers that  
typically run

a million miles with no sweat due to the fact that they stay on the
highway, the engine is still running like a champ.  About 6 or so  
years
back, it started using oil, somewhere around 640K miles or so.   
Before
then, it didn't even use oil between 3K-mile oil changes!   
Determined that
the valve guides are leaky, thus the extra smoking and oil  
consumption.
 Just in the past couple months, the smoking has gotten worse.  My  
goal
since the day I bought the car 13 years or so ago, was to see just  
how many
miles it would go without an overhaul before it absolutely gave up  
the

ghost and puked.  I have a parts car with a perfectly-running engine
(unfortunately unknown mileage), which will be replacing the  
engine in the

SD once it
 finally dies (car itself is rust-free and still in unbelievably  
great
condition and a pure joy to drive, and after a cosmetic  
restoration about

10 years ago, is still GORGEOUS).

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on valve guide  
replacement.  I've
had 5 different people tell me that I should just leave well- 
enough alone,
and not replace the valve guides, but rather just keep driving it,  
adding
oil, and put up with the smoking.  Something about replacing valve  
guides
that might screw up something else and make things worse than they  
are.  As
I said, I want to see just how far I can push this original engine  
before
it dies.  I don't abuse the car; I very,very seldom drive it over  
65 mph,

and religiously do oil changes every 3K miles.  It's using around 1.5
quarts between oil changes, which to me, is incredible given the  
fact that

the engine has never been into since the day it was built.

Any ideas?  Smoking issue is worse than before.  Every time I take  
off
from a stoplight, I have a lot of blue smoke (burning oil), and  
when I

start it the first time every day, it belches smoke like you wouldn't
believe.  Just in regular driving though, there's no visible  
smoke.  Engine
still sounds awesome (that opinion coming from comparing it to the  
other 20
or so 2.4L and 3.0L cars I've owned over the years).  Power isn't  
what it
used to be, but that's to be expected.  I use Marvel Mystery Oil  
every

other oil change, don't know if that's any help or not, but I use it.
 Someone recommended that I use some Lucas oil additive, maybe a  
half-quart
every other oil change.  Any advice as to how I can keep this old  
girl
going as long as possible, and stretching out the miles as long as  
I can
would be MOST appreciated!!!  My wife jokingly tells people that I  
love
that old car more than I love her, but ya know that isn't true,  
lol!!  It's

certainly a
 part of me, like family.  I am determined to reach one million miles
eventually, although I know there's a snowball's chance in  
Purgatory that

it will happen with this original engine.

Thanks in advance,

Clint Lowe
Rolling Hills Farm

Nothing will make a driver more faithful to a car
than a car that is faithful to its driver.
Life is too short, and the road too long,
to drive anything less than a Mercedes-Benz.

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Re: [MBZ] 700K-mile 300SD

[Peter Frederick]

If that's a 617, it's time (actually long past time) for a valve job  
and inspection of the cylinder walls.


Allowing it to burn excessive oil will cause the cylinder walls to  
wear out very fast.


Make sure the correct valve guides are used, and you will probably  
need new valves if the guides are badly worn, maybe new seats.


Peter

On Mar 27, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Rolling Hills Farm wrote:


Hi all,

My beloved 1984 W126 300SD, as of today, has 698,883 miles on it.   
Still going on the original engine, with no overhaul since new.   
Majority of the miles are highway miles, and just like tractor- 
trailers that typically run a million miles with no sweat due to  
the fact that they stay on the highway, the engine is still running  
like a champ.  About 6 or so years back, it started using oil,  
somewhere around 640K miles or so.  Before then, it didn't even use  
oil between 3K-mile oil changes!  Determined that the valve guides  
are leaky, thus the extra smoking and oil consumption.  Just in the  
past couple months, the smoking has gotten worse.  My goal since  
the day I bought the car 13 years or so ago, was to see just how  
many miles it would go without an overhaul before it absolutely  
gave up the ghost and puked.  I have a parts car with a perfectly- 
running engine (unfortunately unknown mileage), which will be  
replacing the engine in the SD once it
 finally dies (car itself is rust-free and still in unbelievably  
great condition and a pure joy to drive, and after a cosmetic  
restoration about 10 years ago, is still GORGEOUS).


Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on valve guide replacement.   
I've had 5 different people tell me that I should just leave well- 
enough alone, and not replace the valve guides, but rather just  
keep driving it, adding oil, and put up with the smoking.   
Something about replacing valve guides that might screw up  
something else and make things worse than they are.  As I said, I  
want to see just how far I can push this original engine before it  
dies.  I don't abuse the car; I very,very seldom drive it over 65  
mph, and religiously do oil changes every 3K miles.  It's using  
around 1.5 quarts between oil changes, which to me, is incredible  
given the fact that the engine has never been into since the day it  
was built.


Any ideas?  Smoking issue is worse than before.  Every time I take  
off from a stoplight, I have a lot of blue smoke (burning oil), and  
when I start it the first time every day, it belches smoke like you  
wouldn't believe.  Just in regular driving though, there's no  
visible smoke.  Engine still sounds awesome (that opinion coming  
from comparing it to the other 20 or so 2.4L and 3.0L cars I've  
owned over the years).  Power isn't what it used to be, but that's  
to be expected.  I use Marvel Mystery Oil every other oil change,  
don't know if that's any help or not, but I use it.  Someone  
recommended that I use some Lucas oil additive, maybe a half-quart  
every other oil change.  Any advice as to how I can keep this old  
girl going as long as possible, and stretching out the miles as  
long as I can would be MOST appreciated!!!  My wife jokingly tells  
people that I love that old car more than I love her, but ya know  
that isn't true, lol!!  It's certainly a
 part of me, like family.  I am determined to reach one million  
miles eventually, although I know there's a snowball's chance in  
Purgatory that it will happen with this original engine.


Thanks in advance,

Clint Lowe
Rolling Hills Farm

Nothing will make a driver more faithful to a car
than a car that is faithful to its driver.
Life is too short, and the road too long,
to drive anything less than a Mercedes-Benz.

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[MBZ] CL Winning posting of the week

[clay monroe]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2929517209.html

Must have been in New Zealand


clay 


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1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
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Re: [MBZ] Frosch

[Max]

Sharp looking car!
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Re: [MBZ] 700K-mile 300SD

[OK Don]

Someone with more experience/knowledge should chime in here, but AFAIK,
there is no manifold vacuum in these Diesels to make them smoke as you
describe due to worn valve guides or valve seals. I thin you've got worn or
stuck rings. If you have been driving it gently, youve probably carboned up
the rings, etc. The usula cure is an "Italian tuneup", also known as "drive
it like you stole it". That having been siad, my highest mileage MB is only
370,000 miles, so what do I konw?

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Rolling Hills Farm <
rollinghillsma...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My beloved 1984 W126 300SD, as of today, has 698,883 miles on it.  Still
> going on the original engine, with no overhaul since new.  Majority of the
> miles are highway miles, and just like tractor-trailers that typically run
> a million miles with no sweat due to the fact that they stay on the
> highway, the engine is still running like a champ.  About 6 or so years
> back, it started using oil, somewhere around 640K miles or so.  Before
> then, it didn't even use oil between 3K-mile oil changes!  Determined that
> the valve guides are leaky, thus the extra smoking and oil consumption.
>  Just in the past couple months, the smoking has gotten worse.  My goal
> since the day I bought the car 13 years or so ago, was to see just how many
> miles it would go without an overhaul before it absolutely gave up the
> ghost and puked.  I have a parts car with a perfectly-running engine
> (unfortunately unknown mileage), which will be replacing the engine in the
> SD once it
>  finally dies (car itself is rust-free and still in unbelievably great
> condition and a pure joy to drive, and after a cosmetic restoration about
> 10 years ago, is still GORGEOUS).
>
> Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on valve guide replacement.  I've
> had 5 different people tell me that I should just leave well-enough alone,
> and not replace the valve guides, but rather just keep driving it, adding
> oil, and put up with the smoking.  Something about replacing valve guides
> that might screw up something else and make things worse than they are.  As
> I said, I want to see just how far I can push this original engine before
> it dies.  I don't abuse the car; I very,very seldom drive it over 65 mph,
> and religiously do oil changes every 3K miles.  It's using around 1.5
> quarts between oil changes, which to me, is incredible given the fact that
> the engine has never been into since the day it was built.
>
> Any ideas?  Smoking issue is worse than before.  Every time I take off
> from a stoplight, I have a lot of blue smoke (burning oil), and when I
> start it the first time every day, it belches smoke like you wouldn't
> believe.  Just in regular driving though, there's no visible smoke.  Engine
> still sounds awesome (that opinion coming from comparing it to the other 20
> or so 2.4L and 3.0L cars I've owned over the years).  Power isn't what it
> used to be, but that's to be expected.  I use Marvel Mystery Oil every
> other oil change, don't know if that's any help or not, but I use it.
>  Someone recommended that I use some Lucas oil additive, maybe a half-quart
> every other oil change.  Any advice as to how I can keep this old girl
> going as long as possible, and stretching out the miles as long as I can
> would be MOST appreciated!!!  My wife jokingly tells people that I love
> that old car more than I love her, but ya know that isn't true, lol!!  It's
> certainly a
>  part of me, like family.  I am determined to reach one million miles
> eventually, although I know there's a snowball's chance in Purgatory that
> it will happen with this original engine.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Clint Lowe
> Rolling Hills Farm
>
> Nothing will make a driver more faithful to a car
> than a car that is faithful to its driver.
> Life is too short, and the road too long,
> to drive anything less than a Mercedes-Benz.
>
> www.facebook.com/rollinghillsfarm
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Re: [MBZ] Daily digest format

[OK Don]

First, this is not a Yahoo group - so it works differently.
I tried the digest mode for a while, but ended up with a gmail account
specifically for this group. All the email in the gmail inbox is from this
group, and nothing else. Gmail does a good job of grouping the emails by
subject, so all the messages for a given thread are together.

YMMV.

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 2:31 AM, Rolling Hills Farm <
rollinghillsma...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I just wanted to send a quick note about the format of the daily digest
> emails I receive.  As a newbie to the group, and a long-time MB diesel
> driver, I'm glad to have signed up with the group.  I have an issue with
> the emails I receive though.  I subscribe to several other Yahoo groups,
> including some dog rescue groups, and I've found this particular one
> especially difficult to read.  It seems that the majority of the other
> groups are much easier to read than this one.  For example, I have been
> involved in the past with a particular dog rescue group, Eskie Rescuers
> United.  The emails I receive daily have clickable links so you can go from
> one post to the other in the email received, and see the topic, and the
> replies for each topic, so that it is very easy to differentiate one topic
> and associated replies from the others.  In this group, it's so difficult
> to figure out which messages are new, and which are replies, and with the
> replies, just
>  what the replies are replying to!  As with the other Yahoo groups I'm
> associated with, this group's email begins with a list of topics, but after
> that, it's more or less just a huge jumble of replies that takes a while to
> decipher out.  After the list of topics, the next line shows a reply to a
> post, but I haven't a clue which topic it's replying to.  Just wondering if
> there's a way that the moderator can re-format this group to make it easier
> to read, or if that's even possible.  Most days I look through the email,
> and just get frustrated trying to figure out who's replying to what, and
> just end up deleting it rather than spending the time to figure out what's
> what.  Just way too confusing compared to the other Yahoo groups I
> subscribe to.
>
> Not trying to be a pest, just sharing my thoughts on the daily emails.
>  Not trying to be critical; I'd just like to see this a little easier to
> read!  I'm an MB owner for life; daily driver's a 1984 300SD which should
> roll over 700K miles within the next 2 weeks!  About 698,600 miles when I
> came home today!  (It was featured in the MBCA Star magazine a couple years
> ago, and was on a syndicated television program about 3 years back). Oldest
> is a 1980 240D 4-speed that the wife drives daily with about 362K, plus a
> 1987 300D with 320K or so and a 1982 300D, about 262K.  Love my old
> diesels!!
>
> Thanks for your time. Have a good day all,
>
> Clint Lowe
> Rolling Hills Farm
>
> Nothing will make a driver more faithful to a car
> than a car that is faithful to its driver.
> Life is too short, and the road too long,
> to drive anything less than a Mercedes-Benz.
>




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Re: [MBZ] Frosch

[OK Don]

I like the steel wheels and hubcaps!

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:10 PM, clay monroe  wrote:

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> On Mar 28, 2012, at 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
> > Cool, post pics
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:19 AM, clay monroe  wrote:
> >
> >> Got me a SL!
> >>
> >> 1974 450SL, two tone greens.  PPI showed standard old car issues, but
> going over the bulging file folder that came with the car, this could have
> been much worse.  I have seen those much worse examples.
> >>
> >> PPI shows #4 & #5 cylinder showing lower compression than the others,
> but all are within reasonable spec of each other.  Mechanic things it is
> carbon on the valves, so get those clean and compression should increase.
>  Incipient head gasket leak needs an eye kept on it.  Figure I will
> schedule that for next summer to do a fix with BiL in his shop.  Engine has
> 208k on the clock.  Was babied up until 2003, then not driven much.
> >>
> >> Fresh enough suspension parts, so that is not an issue.   Driver seat
> is shot.  Sitting on springs, so looking for horse hair and a weekend to
> fit that.  Have to remove the old school car phone and too new fangled
> stereo with overly large speaker boxes.  Pull out the carpet and padding so
> I can wire wheel the floors and put POR-15 on the rust.
> >>
> >> WIll be looking for other parts and bits after I do the initial Rusty
> order for filters and standard new acquisition things
> >>
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >>
> >> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> >> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
> >> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
> >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Pinstripes 85 300tdt

[buymbparts]

No, no no no. No Mercedes came with pinstipes. It was dealer scam to make more 
money. Leave it alone.



Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

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From: Karl Wittnebel 
Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 02:47:33 
To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: [MBZ] Pinstripes 85 300tdt

Hi All,

Random trivia question: did the wagon come with pinstripes? Just repainted. I 
will put them back if they came from the factory.

Thanks,
Karl
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[MBZ] 700K-mile 300SD

[Rolling Hills Farm]

Hi all,

My beloved 1984 W126 300SD, as of today, has 698,883 miles on it.  Still going 
on the original engine, with no overhaul since new.  Majority of the miles are 
highway miles, and just like tractor-trailers that typically run a million 
miles with no sweat due to the fact that they stay on the highway, the engine 
is still running like a champ.  About 6 or so years back, it started using oil, 
somewhere around 640K miles or so.  Before then, it didn't even use oil between 
3K-mile oil changes!  Determined that the valve guides are leaky, thus the 
extra smoking and oil consumption.  Just in the past couple months, the smoking 
has gotten worse.  My goal since the day I bought the car 13 years or so ago, 
was to see just how many miles it would go without an overhaul before it 
absolutely gave up the ghost and puked.  I have a parts car with a 
perfectly-running engine (unfortunately unknown mileage), which will be 
replacing the engine in the SD once it
 finally dies (car itself is rust-free and still in unbelievably great 
condition and a pure joy to drive, and after a cosmetic restoration about 10 
years ago, is still GORGEOUS).  

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on valve guide replacement.  I've had 5 
different people tell me that I should just leave well-enough alone, and not 
replace the valve guides, but rather just keep driving it, adding oil, and put 
up with the smoking.  Something about replacing valve guides that might screw 
up something else and make things worse than they are.  As I said, I want to 
see just how far I can push this original engine before it dies.  I don't abuse 
the car; I very,very seldom drive it over 65 mph, and religiously do oil 
changes every 3K miles.  It's using around 1.5 quarts between oil changes, 
which to me, is incredible given the fact that the engine has never been into 
since the day it was built.

Any ideas?  Smoking issue is worse than before.  Every time I take off from a 
stoplight, I have a lot of blue smoke (burning oil), and when I start it the 
first time every day, it belches smoke like you wouldn't believe.  Just in 
regular driving though, there's no visible smoke.  Engine still sounds awesome 
(that opinion coming from comparing it to the other 20 or so 2.4L and 3.0L cars 
I've owned over the years).  Power isn't what it used to be, but that's to be 
expected.  I use Marvel Mystery Oil every other oil change, don't know if 
that's any help or not, but I use it.  Someone recommended that I use some 
Lucas oil additive, maybe a half-quart every other oil change.  Any advice as 
to how I can keep this old girl going as long as possible, and stretching out 
the miles as long as I can would be MOST appreciated!!!  My wife jokingly tells 
people that I love that old car more than I love her, but ya know that isn't 
true, lol!!  It's certainly a
 part of me, like family.  I am determined to reach one million miles 
eventually, although I know there's a snowball's chance in Purgatory that it 
will happen with this original engine.  

Thanks in advance,
 
Clint Lowe
Rolling Hills Farm
 
Nothing will make a driver more faithful to a car
than a car that is faithful to its driver.
Life is too short, and the road too long,
to drive anything less than a Mercedes-Benz.
 
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[MBZ] Daily digest format

[Rolling Hills Farm]

I just wanted to send a quick note about the format of the daily digest emails 
I receive.  As a newbie to the group, and a long-time MB diesel driver, I'm 
glad to have signed up with the group.  I have an issue with the emails I 
receive though.  I subscribe to several other Yahoo groups, including some dog 
rescue groups, and I've found this particular one especially difficult to read. 
 It seems that the majority of the other groups are much easier to read than 
this one.  For example, I have been involved in the past with a particular dog 
rescue group, Eskie Rescuers United.  The emails I receive daily have clickable 
links so you can go from one post to the other in the email received, and see 
the topic, and the replies for each topic, so that it is very easy to 
differentiate one topic and associated replies from the others.  In this group, 
it's so difficult to figure out which messages are new, and which are replies, 
and with the replies, just
 what the replies are replying to!  As with the other Yahoo groups I'm 
associated with, this group's email begins with a list of topics, but after 
that, it's more or less just a huge jumble of replies that takes a while to 
decipher out.  After the list of topics, the next line shows a reply to a post, 
but I haven't a clue which topic it's replying to.  Just wondering if there's a 
way that the moderator can re-format this group to make it easier to read, or 
if that's even possible.  Most days I look through the email, and just get 
frustrated trying to figure out who's replying to what, and just end up 
deleting it rather than spending the time to figure out what's what.  Just way 
too confusing compared to the other Yahoo groups I subscribe to.

Not trying to be a pest, just sharing my thoughts on the daily emails.  Not 
trying to be critical; I'd just like to see this a little easier to read!  I'm 
an MB owner for life; daily driver's a 1984 300SD which should roll over 700K 
miles within the next 2 weeks!  About 698,600 miles when I came home today!  
(It was featured in the MBCA Star magazine a couple years ago, and was on a 
syndicated television program about 3 years back). Oldest is a 1980 240D 
4-speed that the wife drives daily with about 362K, plus a 1987 300D with 320K 
or so and a 1982 300D, about 262K.  Love my old diesels!!

Thanks for your time. Have a good day all,
 
Clint Lowe
Rolling Hills Farm
 
Nothing will make a driver more faithful to a car
than a car that is faithful to its driver.
Life is too short, and the road too long,
to drive anything less than a Mercedes-Benz.
 
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[MBZ] OT: Source for electronic rectifier control

[Dieselhead]

Alles:

I need a source for a  25 Amp 110 volt AC (input) variable linear DC 
voltage control.


A listing of components to build one would be ok too.

Could I build such a thing out of one of the variacs I have with a 
full wave bridge rectifier?  What else might be needed for this 
approach?


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[MBZ] Pinstripes 85 300tdt

[Karl Wittnebel]

Hi All,

Random trivia question: did the wagon come with pinstripes? Just repainted. I 
will put them back if they came from the factory.

Thanks,
Karl
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Re: [MBZ] Frosch

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On Mar 28, 2012, at 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Cool, post pics
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 28, 2012, at 11:19 AM, clay monroe  wrote:
> 
>> Got me a SL!
>> 
>> 1974 450SL, two tone greens.  PPI showed standard old car issues, but going 
>> over the bulging file folder that came with the car, this could have been 
>> much worse.  I have seen those much worse examples.
>> 
>> PPI shows #4 & #5 cylinder showing lower compression than the others, but 
>> all are within reasonable spec of each other.  Mechanic things it is carbon 
>> on the valves, so get those clean and compression should increase.  
>> Incipient head gasket leak needs an eye kept on it.  Figure I will schedule 
>> that for next summer to do a fix with BiL in his shop.  Engine has 208k on 
>> the clock.  Was babied up until 2003, then not driven much.
>> 
>> Fresh enough suspension parts, so that is not an issue.   Driver seat is 
>> shot.  Sitting on springs, so looking for horse hair and a weekend to fit 
>> that.  Have to remove the old school car phone and too new fangled stereo 
>> with overly large speaker boxes.  Pull out the carpet and padding so I can 
>> wire wheel the floors and put POR-15 on the rust.
>> 
>> WIll be looking for other parts and bits after I do the initial Rusty order 
>> for filters and standard new acquisition things
>> 
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> 
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Frosch

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> Cool, post pics
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] wheels and winter tires

[glenn brown]

For those of you who I may have spoken with off-list regarding wheels for 
winter tires for my '84 300D, I've obtained, refinished, and had my new winter 
tires mounted so I'm ready for one trip north each winter.
 
G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC   
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Re: [MBZ] Bull or buy it?

[clay monroe]

Thanks scott.  Will probably get this nailed down eventually.  R107 that will 
be finding parts for the next few years

clay

On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

> I missed your year/model, but I suspect there is a major junction for all
> the door vac lines under the floor mat on the passenger side and that is the
> best place to begin troubleshooting.  Get a mitivac (little hand vacuum pump
> with a gage, and get a cheap one) and a couple pieces of rubber hose and
> check out each leg of the door lock vacuum system from that one location.
> The hard plastic lines last forever unless they are cut but the rubber "T"s
> and "Y"s dry, crack, and leak in time.  Also, the rubber diaphragms in the
> vacuum elements do the same and you may be able to rebuild those cheaper
> than replacing them. Also have some plastic golf Ts on hand to temporarily
> plug lines for troubleshooting and also to plug leaking circuits until you
> can fix them (so the rest of the circuits will still work.  Finally, the
> little vacuum switch in the driver's door can leak if it's not rigged right.
> Assuming you have a 123 model, the door panels are easy to remove and
> install compared to a 126.  The service manual has a good vacuum schematic
> and you'll need it to keep track of what's what.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of clay monroe
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:34 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bull or buy it?
> 
> I bothered to read up on forums and the owners manual.  Also questioned the
> PO.  He had vac leak in the pass door, and I am guessing there are more to
> be found.  Manual said there are limited open cycle before the vac res goes
> flat.  That must be what is going on, since I drove it home and it all
> locked up well.  IT will be a task for a sunny day when I have many strands
> of colored vacuum hose to futz with.
> 
> clay
> 
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 4:53 PM, j...@windwireless.net wrote:
> 
>>> One issue I just came across, the trunk has decided to lock and will not 
>> open with key.
>> 
>> Vibrator on key, like ignition approach?  Or does it turn OK but not 
>> release.  Saw
>> that on a car where the slider didn't quite move enough to let the button 
>> travel hit
>> the release lever.  (Vac system fault, essentially.  Loose screw was 
>> ultimate culprit.)
>> Trunk's pretty secure.  You may be able to get a MityVac on the lines to 
>> shift it, the
>> tee knot is (unfortunately) under the glove box kind of close to the edge 
>> of the car.
>> Maybe too close to access well with the dash in.  I cut ours directly
> under 
>> the
>> glove box, and used rubber links to patch it up.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bull or buy it?

[clay monroe]

I am leaving it all intact.  Was going to remove it, but decided that it would 
not be good for resale value once I get her restored.  Probably do a tear down  
and cleaning as I go so that it is able to hold vacuum.  

BTW, Took the car to fill the tank and now the trunk opens.  Guess I just have 
passive security system.

clay

On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:31 AM, j...@windwireless.net wrote:

>> Since I will not be restoring the AC system, Maybe I plumb the compressor 
> as vac,
>> and get a small propane tank as back up vac rez.
> 
> No need to butcher it.  The system, when working as designed, needs
> no such help.  You just have to find and fix the leaks.  The engine itself
> is already a sufficient vacuum source for everything.  The next owner
> of the car may prefer to find all the AC parts there in restorable 
> condition.
> 
> I cursed the #$%$% who removed the AC parts on the 240D Albatross.
> Had they still been there I could probably have restored it to operation
> cheaply, and made more off of the car.  And the next owner would have
> had AC.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 15/50

[clay monroe]

Went to FLAPS and wiped out their supply of 15-50.  All two cases.  Been years 
since they carried it and  I was down to two quarts at home.  Now I can change 
the oil in the 95ED.  Got two gallons of rotella for use in the SL.  10-40 so 
that I can swap out old oil once Rusty's package arrives.  Fresh filters all 
around and the goop and gunk are removed and I can move the car to M1 all 
around.

clay 


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1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:33 AM, Gerry Archer wrote:

>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:01:43 -0400 "Gerry Archer"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Amazon has 6 qts of 15w50 for $46.95 or $7.83/qt.
>>> Shipping is free with Super Saver Shipping which is worthwhile IMO
>>> if you buy a fair number of items from Amazon.
>>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000COPC9S/ref=asc_df_B000COPC9S1957444?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=nextagus0015775-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B000COPC9S
>>> 
>>> There hasn't been any Mobil 1 15w50 at local stores around here for a
>>> long time.
>  
>> And the 0W-40 is $9.665/qt.
>> 
>> And, BTW, Amazon's search feature stinks. I search for Mobil 1 0W-40 and
>> it gives me results for Valvoline Synpower, Lisle 14500 Oil Filter
>> Socket, Mobil 1 M1-204 Extended Performance Oil Filter, Mann-Filter HU
>> 718/5 X Metal-Free Oil Filter, and even Cobra 19DXIV 40 Channel Mobile
>> Compact CB Radio. Makes shopping difficult.
>> Craig
>> ___
> You're right; it can be useless.  As you may have noticed, I used a Google
> query specifying Nextag, and then the Nextag link which provided the Amazon
> link.
> If Amazon redirects your query about an item to the dealers website and states
> that Amazons protective and other features do not apply, I do not order it.
> If the non-Amazon dealer rips you off (I paid about $30 shipping for a $17 
> item),
> Amazon offers no recourse and the 800 number connects you to someone in
> Panama who, speaking very broken english, says that Amazon allows dealers to
> set their own shipping charges or something to that effect.
> Since the 15w50 oil appears to be an Amazon item, it's probably safe enough to
> order it.
> I've had better luck ordering from Ebay and paying via Paypal but in this case
> Amazon seems to have the best price.
> Gerry 
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Re: [MBZ] Changing door striker plates - anyone BTDT?

[G Mann]

Seems like a good case for anti-seize on re-assembly.

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Scott Ritchey  wrote:

> That's what happens if you try to loosen old ones with just a regular
> wrench.  I'll probably have to drill mine after I get new ones from Rusty.
> The screws are some kind of soft metal and I think the taper corrodes to
> the
> beveled surface on the strike.  I'd recommend soaking with PB or kroil
> before trying to turn them.  I beat the snot our of mine and they're still
> stuck.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:44 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing door striker plates - anyone BTDT?
>
> Turns out the plates for BOTH rear doors are buggered as well - that's
> 4 for 4 on this car!  What could the PO have been doing that would
> have destroyed all of them?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Changing door striker plates - anyone BTDT?

[Fmiser]

> andrew strasfogel wrote:

> Turns out the plates for BOTH rear doors are buggered as well
> - that's 4 for 4 on this car!  What could the PO have been
> doing that would have destroyed all of them?

Seems to me to be age more than abuse.  The drivers door doesn't
seem to be more prone to failure than the others.  I have just
about run out of used spares here.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Bull or buy it?

[j...@windwireless.net]

>Since I will not be restoring the AC system, Maybe I plumb the compressor 
as vac,
>and get a small propane tank as back up vac rez.

No need to butcher it.  The system, when working as designed, needs
no such help.  You just have to find and fix the leaks.  The engine itself
is already a sufficient vacuum source for everything.  The next owner
of the car may prefer to find all the AC parts there in restorable 
condition.

I cursed the #$%$% who removed the AC parts on the 240D Albatross.
Had they still been there I could probably have restored it to operation
cheaply, and made more off of the car.  And the next owner would have
had AC.

-- Jim

 
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Re: [MBZ] Bull or buy it?

[Scott Ritchey]

I missed your year/model, but I suspect there is a major junction for all
the door vac lines under the floor mat on the passenger side and that is the
best place to begin troubleshooting.  Get a mitivac (little hand vacuum pump
with a gage, and get a cheap one) and a couple pieces of rubber hose and
check out each leg of the door lock vacuum system from that one location.
The hard plastic lines last forever unless they are cut but the rubber "T"s
and "Y"s dry, crack, and leak in time.  Also, the rubber diaphragms in the
vacuum elements do the same and you may be able to rebuild those cheaper
than replacing them. Also have some plastic golf Ts on hand to temporarily
plug lines for troubleshooting and also to plug leaking circuits until you
can fix them (so the rest of the circuits will still work.  Finally, the
little vacuum switch in the driver's door can leak if it's not rigged right.
Assuming you have a 123 model, the door panels are easy to remove and
install compared to a 126.  The service manual has a good vacuum schematic
and you'll need it to keep track of what's what.

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of clay monroe
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:34 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bull or buy it?

I bothered to read up on forums and the owners manual.  Also questioned the
PO.  He had vac leak in the pass door, and I am guessing there are more to
be found.  Manual said there are limited open cycle before the vac res goes
flat.  That must be what is going on, since I drove it home and it all
locked up well.  IT will be a task for a sunny day when I have many strands
of colored vacuum hose to futz with.

clay

On Mar 29, 2012, at 4:53 PM, j...@windwireless.net wrote:

>> One issue I just came across, the trunk has decided to lock and will not 
> open with key.
> 
> Vibrator on key, like ignition approach?  Or does it turn OK but not 
> release.  Saw
> that on a car where the slider didn't quite move enough to let the button 
> travel hit
> the release lever.  (Vac system fault, essentially.  Loose screw was 
> ultimate culprit.)
> Trunk's pretty secure.  You may be able to get a MityVac on the lines to 
> shift it, the
> tee knot is (unfortunately) under the glove box kind of close to the edge 
> of the car.
> Maybe too close to access well with the dash in.  I cut ours directly
under 
> the
> glove box, and used rubber links to patch it up.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Changing door striker plates - anyone BTDT?

[Scott Ritchey]

That's what happens if you try to loosen old ones with just a regular
wrench.  I'll probably have to drill mine after I get new ones from Rusty.
The screws are some kind of soft metal and I think the taper corrodes to the
beveled surface on the strike.  I'd recommend soaking with PB or kroil
before trying to turn them.  I beat the snot our of mine and they're still
stuck.

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 10:44 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing door striker plates - anyone BTDT?

Turns out the plates for BOTH rear doors are buggered as well - that's
4 for 4 on this car!  What could the PO have been doing that would
have destroyed all of them?



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Re: [MBZ] One for Wilton

[WILTON]

'Been threatening, also, to build a utility trailer for my scooter.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Hendrik & Fay" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] One for Wilton



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motoringvideo/8064625/Mobility-scooter-breaks-national-speed-limit.html

"It's great to have set the record and have the speed clocked officially 
and fantastic to have gone over 70mph, I'm ecstatic," said Mr Furze, who 
wore a helmet and full leathers for the record drive.


"The scooter was a bit twitchy when I was going at a high speed and it was 
quite uncontrollable but I managed not to crash."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8460400/The-worlds-smallest-caravan.html

Hendrik
who doesn't require the services of a scooter...yet


On 30/03/12 02:40, Curt Raymond wrote:
I bet it takes testicular fortitude to ride that, with a narrow wheelbase 
and high center of gravity I bet there were plenty of spills in 
testing...


-Cuirt

Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:01:00 -0500
From: Dieselhead<126die...@gmail.com>
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] One for Wilton
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

High speed mobility scooter.

But it doesn't say anything about a high speed walker!

http://biggeekdad.com/2012/02/high-speed-mobility-scooter/

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Re: [MBZ] I'm taking the Voluntary Severance Program

[Craig]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:25:53 -0700 clay monroe 
wrote:

> Well wishes in order for your pending retirement.  At least until you
> want to look for more work and less Mercedes play

Thank you, though I wouldn't call it retirement.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Templates

[WILTON]

There's even a Peele Acres subdivision here.

I was born and raised in Nash Co., NC, (Nashville/Rocky Mount); USAF brought 
me to Goldsboro with B-52s in Mar '79; retired 31 Oct 81; SWMBO was by then 
Executive Director of Community Arts Council; had not had good reason to 
move until the break-in last Sat.


Yep, Edwards Mansion, I remembered after I went to bed last night.

I was Base Civil Engineer at George AFB near Victorville, CA, 1975 through 
'77 and Sondrestrom AB, Greenland in '78; back to B-52s here in '79.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Peele" 

To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Templates



Wilton,

I was born in Goldsboro. Both sides of my family were from that area, but 
I

never lived there much as my dad was in the Navy. Many, many visits to
family there over the years, most of them including a trip to Wilber's for 
a

family-style feast. Sure makes my mouth water to think about it!

You're thinking of the Edwards Mansion, next to the San Bernardino County
Museum. Still doing a brisk events business, so I hear. If it's been a few
years, you wouldn't recognize the area today for all the commercial
development around the place.

How 'bout your Goldsboro connection?

All the best,

Frank Peele
Redlands CA
72 300SEL 4.5
89 300SEL


-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:54 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Templates

How'd you know 'bout Wilbur's?  USAF?  Seymour Johnson AFB?
BTW, remind me name of the nice restaurant in a big old house in an orange
grove in Redlands area.
Restaurant plus weddings, parties, etc.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Frank Peele" 
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Templates



If I'd been in Goldsboro, it would have been at Wilbur's BBQ. Who needs
trunk panels when there's Wilber's on the menu?

All the best,

Frank Peele
Redlands CA
72 300SEL 4.5
89 300SEL
Goldsboro native

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com 
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]

On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 3:46 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Templates

Oh?  You didn't come through Goldsboro, NC, last Sat. night, did you? 
;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "clay monroe" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:25 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Templates



The SL is missing the trunk panels.  Anybody out there have a set that
you



can make me templates from? Craft paper and a few clues as to what
material the panels are made of and I might be able to fake some. 
Either
that, or I scout for a possibly unoccupied example and abscond with 
their

panels.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] Changing door striker plates - anyone BTDT?

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Maybe he used it for a photoshoot. He had some bikini clad hotties hanging from 
the doors.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2012, at 10:43 AM, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

Turns out the plates for BOTH rear doors are buggered as well - that's
4 for 4 on this car!  What could the PO have been doing that would
have destroyed all of them?

On 3/30/12, Fmiser  wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:

Thanks, Grant - clear and easy to follow.  How do I tighten
the new plate so it's just as secure as the old one?

You don't need to make it as tight as the old one.  It will get
that way over time.

What makes it so tight is the taper lock between the head of
bolt and the strike - kinda like lug bolts.

Personally, I put a bit of grease on the threads and head so I
can get them out later.  I have not had one loosen on me yet.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 15/50

[Gerry Archer]

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:01:43 -0400 "Gerry Archer"
 wrote:


Amazon has 6 qts of 15w50 for $46.95 or $7.83/qt.
Shipping is free with Super Saver Shipping which is worthwhile IMO
if you buy a fair number of items from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000COPC9S/ref=asc_df_B000COPC9S1957444?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=nextagus0015775-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395093&creativeASIN=B000COPC9S

There hasn't been any Mobil 1 15w50 at local stores around here for a
long time.
 

And the 0W-40 is $9.665/qt.

And, BTW, Amazon's search feature stinks. I search for Mobil 1 0W-40 and
it gives me results for Valvoline Synpower, Lisle 14500 Oil Filter
Socket, Mobil 1 M1-204 Extended Performance Oil Filter, Mann-Filter HU
718/5 X Metal-Free Oil Filter, and even Cobra 19DXIV 40 Channel Mobile
Compact CB Radio. Makes shopping difficult.
Craig
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You're right; it can be useless.  As you may have noticed, I used a Google
query specifying Nextag, and then the Nextag link which provided the Amazon
link.
If Amazon redirects your query about an item to the dealers website and 
states

that Amazons protective and other features do not apply, I do not order it.
If the non-Amazon dealer rips you off (I paid about $30 shipping for a $17 
item),

Amazon offers no recourse and the 800 number connects you to someone in
Panama who, speaking very broken english, says that Amazon allows dealers to
set their own shipping charges or something to that effect.
Since the 15w50 oil appears to be an Amazon item, it's probably safe enough 
to

order it.
I've had better luck ordering from Ebay and paying via Paypal but in this 
case

Amazon seems to have the best price.
Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] Changing door striker plates - anyone BTDT?

[andrew strasfogel]

Turns out the plates for BOTH rear doors are buggered as well - that's
4 for 4 on this car!  What could the PO have been doing that would
have destroyed all of them?

On 3/30/12, Fmiser  wrote:
>> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Grant - clear and easy to follow.  How do I tighten
>> the new plate so it's just as secure as the old one?
>
> You don't need to make it as tight as the old one.  It will get
> that way over time.
>
> What makes it so tight is the taper lock between the head of
> bolt and the strike - kinda like lug bolts.
>
> Personally, I put a bit of grease on the threads and head so I
> can get them out later.  I have not had one loosen on me yet.
>
> --   Philip
>
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Re: [MBZ] Templates

[Frank Peele]

Wilton,

I was born in Goldsboro. Both sides of my family were from that area, but I
never lived there much as my dad was in the Navy. Many, many visits to
family there over the years, most of them including a trip to Wilber's for a
family-style feast. Sure makes my mouth water to think about it!

You're thinking of the Edwards Mansion, next to the San Bernardino County
Museum. Still doing a brisk events business, so I hear. If it's been a few
years, you wouldn't recognize the area today for all the commercial
development around the place.

How 'bout your Goldsboro connection?

All the best,

Frank Peele
Redlands CA
72 300SEL 4.5
89 300SEL


-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of WILTON
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:54 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Templates

How'd you know 'bout Wilbur's?  USAF?  Seymour Johnson AFB?
BTW, remind me name of the nice restaurant in a big old house in an orange
grove in Redlands area.
Restaurant plus weddings, parties, etc.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Frank Peele" 
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Templates


> If I'd been in Goldsboro, it would have been at Wilbur's BBQ. Who needs
> trunk panels when there's Wilber's on the menu?
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank Peele
> Redlands CA
> 72 300SEL 4.5
> 89 300SEL
> Goldsboro native
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of WILTON
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 3:46 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Templates
>
> Oh?  You didn't come through Goldsboro, NC, last Sat. night, did you?  ;<)
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "clay monroe" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 5:25 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Templates
>
>
>> The SL is missing the trunk panels.  Anybody out there have a set that 
>> you
>
>> can make me templates from? Craft paper and a few clues as to what
>> material the panels are made of and I might be able to fake some.  Either
>> that, or I scout for a possibly unoccupied example and abscond with their
>> panels.
>>
>> clay
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Re: [MBZ] Changing door striker plates - anyone BTDT?

[Fmiser]

> andrew strasfogel wrote:

> Thanks, Grant - clear and easy to follow.  How do I tighten
> the new plate so it's just as secure as the old one?

You don't need to make it as tight as the old one.  It will get
that way over time.

What makes it so tight is the taper lock between the head of
bolt and the strike - kinda like lug bolts.

Personally, I put a bit of grease on the threads and head so I
can get them out later.  I have not had one loosen on me yet.

--   Philip

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