Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Or Brunswick stew.?

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On May 10, 2012, at 12:17 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

Brian Toscano wrote:
I've never heard about a complaint about Rusty's exhaust systems.

Then you've never been downwind of him after he's eaten pickled cabbage. :-)

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Mitch Haley]

Brian Toscano wrote:

I've never heard about a complaint about Rusty's exhaust systems.


Then you've never been downwind of him after he's eaten pickled cabbage. :-)

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Brian Toscano]

I've never heard about a complaint about Rusty's exhaust systems.


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes I'm leaning toward the Rusty option. Is never seize your standard
>> silver colored anti-seize used on spork plug threads?
>>
>>
> Yes, Neverseez is a brand name.  I got mine at Berry Bearing I think, but
> flaps has similar.  Last one I bought was copper based.
>
> Grainger, McMaster, and bearing supply houses, etc should have something
> similar
>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dieselhead]

Yes I'm leaning toward the Rusty option. Is never seize your 
standard silver colored anti-seize used on spork plug threads?




Yes, Neverseez is a brand name.  I got mine at Berry Bearing I think, 
but flaps has similar.  Last one I bought was copper based.


Grainger, McMaster, and bearing supply houses, etc should have 
something similar


Great for the Spork plugs in your 240D! (if ya kin find em)

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Re: [MBZ] OT - LinkedIn

[OK Don]

HAHAHAHA  - Yes, you can add me s well. Donald Norris in Oklahoma.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

> Yes, link in ten friends and get a free silver link bracelet.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> wrote:
>
> I'm new to Linked In - is there a reward program of some sort?
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Russ Williams  wrote:
> I got one too form Andrew.
> Dan you can add me too.
>
> Russ W.
>
>
> On 5/9/2012 21:17, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
> On May 9, 2012 5:50 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:
>
> I know some of you are LinkedIn members, as I have connected with some of
>
> you.
> Must be catching.  I just got an invite from Andrew a few days ago.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Yes I'm leaning toward the Rusty option. Is never seize your standard silver 
colored anti-seize used on spork plug threads?

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On May 9, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

I see no reason to buy expensive stainless for a 240D when the OEM will last 10 
to 30 years.  Wht are you really going to be driving in 20 years?

I hope to still have my rostfrei white 240D junker with the Mao engine still 
running in 20 years.  But I think I am the exception, not the norm.  I paid 
what the car is worth  ($300) to Rusty for a new exhaust last year with no 
regrets.  Fits right and goes together easily.  I put neverseez on all the 
joints.

Haha. Not hard to honor something that'll never break or rust! The thing is 
that the Rusty option (pun not intended) is so cheap!
To be honest, I bought a TV exhaust years ago for a 450SEL and it didn't fit 
right. I was living in CT at the time so I just drove to their factory in 
Plainfield and they cut and re-welded it on the spot- sort of a custom job for 
free. Now they are not local so I can't do that. I probably just got a  bad 
part as I'm not aware of other fitment issues with TV.

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On May 9, 2012, at 10:50 PM, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

Time Valve has a lifetime warranty and they really do honor it.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
Bosal and Erbspecker are OEM.

Peter


On May 9, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Peter Frederick wrote:

OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive.
Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last.


What about Bosal?

Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under
$300.


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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dieselhead]

I see no reason to buy expensive stainless for a 240D when the OEM 
will last 10 to 30 years.  Wht are you really going to be driving in 
20 years?


I hope to still have my rostfrei white 240D junker with the Mao 
engine still running in 20 years.  But I think I am the exception, 
not the norm.  I paid what the car is worth  ($300) to Rusty for a 
new exhaust last year with no regrets.  Fits right and goes together 
easily.  I put neverseez on all the joints.


Haha. Not hard to honor something that'll never break or rust! The 
thing is that the Rusty option (pun not intended) is so cheap!
To be honest, I bought a TV exhaust years ago for a 450SEL and it 
didn't fit right. I was living in CT at the time so I just drove to 
their factory in Plainfield and they cut and re-welded it on the 
spot- sort of a custom job for free. Now they are not local so I 
can't do that. I probably just got a  bad part as I'm not aware of 
other fitment issues with TV.


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On May 9, 2012, at 10:50 PM, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

Time Valve has a lifetime warranty and they really do honor it.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
Bosal and Erbspecker are OEM.

Peter


On May 9, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Peter Frederick wrote:

OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive.
Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last.


What about Bosal?

Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under
$300.



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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Yes, it was sudden and very loud. I initially thought I blew my engine until I 
saw sparks from the rear view mirror!

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On May 9, 2012, at 11:06 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

Exhaust on my 3 or 4-year old '80 240D broke apart at joint between manifold 
and front edge of muffler.  'Suddenly sounded like and R-4360 - well, very 
loud, anyway.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Dimitri Seretakis" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:17 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.


Funny that I was asking about diesel exhaust longevity the other day and my 
entire exhaust system decides to suddenly, without any warning, fall off my car 
while cruising on I-95. So now the question is what do I do as far as 
replacement? I need it fairly soon as the local police up here in Good 'ol 
Brunswick ME have little tolerance for automotive shannanagans and I would like 
to head back to Boston in a less deafening manner. I can go to the local 
McParts, buy from Rusty and get a better deal on a better part or order a 
Timevalve stainless or something. I just need it fast! Suggestions?
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[WILTON]

Exhaust on my 3 or 4-year old '80 240D broke apart at joint between manifold 
and front edge of muffler.  'Suddenly sounded like and R-4360 - well, very 
loud, anyway.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dimitri Seretakis" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 9:17 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.


Funny that I was asking about diesel exhaust longevity the other day and 
my entire exhaust system decides to suddenly, without any warning, fall 
off my car while cruising on I-95. So now the question is what do I do as 
far as replacement? I need it fairly soon as the local police up here in 
Good 'ol Brunswick ME have little tolerance for automotive shannanagans 
and I would like to head back to Boston in a less deafening manner. I can 
go to the local McParts, buy from Rusty and get a better deal on a better 
part or order a Timevalve stainless or something. I just need it fast! 
Suggestions?

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dieselhead]

Q can have it to you the next day.

Funny that I was asking about diesel exhaust longevity the other day 
and my entire exhaust system decides to suddenly, without any 
warning, fall off my car while cruising on I-95. So now the question 
is what do I do as far as replacement? I need it fairly soon as the 
local police up here in Good 'ol Brunswick ME have little tolerance 
for automotive shannanagans and I would like to head back to Boston 
in a less deafening manner. I can go to the local McParts, buy from 
Rusty and get a better deal on a better part or order a Timevalve 
stainless or something. I just need it fast! Suggestions?

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Haha. Not hard to honor something that'll never break or rust! The thing is 
that the Rusty option (pun not intended) is so cheap!
To be honest, I bought a TV exhaust years ago for a 450SEL and it didn't fit 
right. I was living in CT at the time so I just drove to their factory in 
Plainfield and they cut and re-welded it on the spot- sort of a custom job for 
free. Now they are not local so I can't do that. I probably just got a  bad 
part as I'm not aware of other fitment issues with TV. 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 9, 2012, at 10:50 PM, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

Time Valve has a lifetime warranty and they really do honor it.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
Bosal and Erbspecker are OEM.

Peter


On May 9, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Peter Frederick wrote:

OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive.
Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last.


What about Bosal?

Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under
$300.



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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[andrew strasfogel]

Time Valve has a lifetime warranty and they really do honor it.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:
> Bosal and Erbspecker are OEM.
>
> Peter
>
>
> On May 9, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>
>> Peter Frederick wrote:
>>>
>>> OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive.
>>> Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last.
>>
>>
>> What about Bosal?
>>
>> Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under
>> $300.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - LinkedIn

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Yes, link in ten friends and get a free silver link bracelet.

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On May 9, 2012, at 10:47 PM, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

I'm new to Linked In - is there a reward program of some sort?

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Russ Williams  wrote:
I got one too form Andrew.
Dan you can add me too.

Russ W.


On 5/9/2012 21:17, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On May 9, 2012 5:50 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

I know some of you are LinkedIn members, as I have connected with some of

you.
Must be catching.  I just got an invite from Andrew a few days ago.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Yup checked his website..under $300 indeed. 

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On May 9, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:

Bosal and Erbspecker are OEM.

Peter

On May 9, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Peter Frederick wrote:
OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive.
Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last.

What about Bosal?

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Re: [MBZ] OT - LinkedIn

[andrew strasfogel]

I'm new to Linked In - is there a reward program of some sort?

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Russ Williams  wrote:
> I got one too form Andrew.
> Dan you can add me too.
>
> Russ W.
>
>
> On 5/9/2012 21:17, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>>
>> On May 9, 2012 5:50 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:
>>>
>>> I know some of you are LinkedIn members, as I have connected with some of
>>
>> you.
>> Must be catching.  I just got an invite from Andrew a few days ago.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - LinkedIn

[Russ Williams]

I got one too form Andrew.
Dan you can add me too.

Russ W.

On 5/9/2012 21:17, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On May 9, 2012 5:50 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

I know some of you are LinkedIn members, as I have connected with some of

you.
Must be catching.  I just got an invite from Andrew a few days ago.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT - LinkedIn

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On May 9, 2012 5:50 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:
>
> I know some of you are LinkedIn members, as I have connected with some of
you.
>

Must be catching.  I just got an invite from Andrew a few days ago.

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Peter Frederick]

Bosal and Erbspecker are OEM.

Peter

On May 9, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Peter Frederick wrote:
OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather  
expensive.

Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last.


What about Bosal?

Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are  
under $300.




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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Damn that's cheap. Does rusty sell bosal?


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On May 9, 2012, at 9:59 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

Peter Frederick wrote:
OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive.
Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last.

What about Bosal?

Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under $300.



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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Mitch Haley]

Peter Frederick wrote:

OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive.

Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last.


What about Bosal?

Looks like front pipe, resonator and rear muffler for a 240D are under $300.



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Re: [MBZ] OT - LinkedIn

[Mike Esh]

I am a member.

Michael E. Esh


On May 9, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> I know some of you are LinkedIn members, as I have connected with some of you.
> 
> If there are any other members out there who are looking to add some 
> connections to their profile, drop me a note and I'll add you.  You can also 
> search LinkedIn with my name and find my profile.
> 
> I am trying to bump my numbers a bit as well, so
> 
> TIA,
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dimitri Seretakis]

So is timevalve more money than OEM Rusty? Rusty?

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On May 9, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Peter Frederick  wrote:

OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather expensive.

Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last.

Peter

On May 9, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

Funny that I was asking about diesel exhaust longevity the other day and my 
entire exhaust system decides to suddenly, without any warning, fall off my car 
while cruising on I-95. So now the question is what do I do as far as 
replacement? I need it fairly soon as the local police up here in Good 'ol 
Brunswick ME have little tolerance for automotive shannanagans and I would like 
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McParts, buy from Rusty and get a better deal on a better part or order a 
Timevalve stainless or something. I just need it fast! Suggestions?
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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dimitri Seretakis]

The thing is my exhaust ultimately did rust so clearly they fail in diesels as 
well. The pipe rotted on this w123 240D in a similar location by the front pipe 
where my 220D exhaust rotted.  

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On May 9, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Max  wrote:

Get the better part for the lower price, I would not put stainless on a diesel 
for the reasons discussed.

What is the cost difference?

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Peter Frederick]

OEM from Rusty is a good bet, so is TimeValve, although rather  
expensive.


Don't get a cheap McParts, they don't fit and don't last.

Peter

On May 9, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

Funny that I was asking about diesel exhaust longevity the other  
day and my entire exhaust system decides to suddenly, without any  
warning, fall off my car while cruising on I-95. So now the  
question is what do I do as far as replacement? I need it fairly  
soon as the local police up here in Good 'ol Brunswick ME have  
little tolerance for automotive shannanagans and I would like to  
head back to Boston in a less deafening manner. I can go to the  
local McParts, buy from Rusty and get a better deal on a better  
part or order a Timevalve stainless or something. I just need it  
fast! Suggestions?

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Re: [MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Max]

Get the better part for the lower price, I would not put stainless on a diesel 
for the reasons discussed.

What is the cost difference?

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[MBZ] Exhaust fell off.

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Funny that I was asking about diesel exhaust longevity the other day and my 
entire exhaust system decides to suddenly, without any warning, fall off my car 
while cruising on I-95. So now the question is what do I do as far as 
replacement? I need it fairly soon as the local police up here in Good 'ol 
Brunswick ME have little tolerance for automotive shannanagans and I would like 
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Timevalve stainless or something. I just need it fast! Suggestions?
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[MBZ] OT - LinkedIn

[Dan Penoff]

I know some of you are LinkedIn members, as I have connected with some of you.

If there are any other members out there who are looking to add some 
connections to their profile, drop me a note and I'll add you.  You can also 
search LinkedIn with my name and find my profile.

I am trying to bump my numbers a bit as well, so

TIA,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] bright lights

[RELNGSON]

Having installed high wattage bulbs with relays in many cars going back to 
the 6V days, I can   tell you that the first thing to fail (when relays are 
not installed) will be the contacts in the high/low beam switch.

My 944 with relays has 100/160W H4 bulbs. The C300's Bi-Xenons are 
superior.

RLE
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[MBZ] Secret message for Larry T

[Max]

Just mailed an oil sample Tuesday, 13,900 miles on Mobil 1 0w-40.

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Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test

[Rich Thomas]

I was reading this article about that woman Danica Patrick who is going 
to be racing at Darlington or somewhere, and it was saying it was the 
hardest track.  Then last night I watched some Top Gear episodes, one 
where they were running a new McLaren on the track.  Got me wondering 
how difficult it would be to take that Google technology, add in all the 
car systems and sensors, then have it learn how to drive a track really 
really fast.  I am thinking it would not be that hard to do, airplanes 
do that sort of thing pretty well these days -- 4D navigation and such.


It would be kinda fun to see a bunch of robot cars, unlimited power, 
etc. race on these tracks.


--R

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[MBZ] Cool Limited Production Cars

[Dan Penoff]

Don't look at this unless you have some time to burn:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/autohistorian/sets/72157623534437206/

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test

[Curt Raymond]

Just because people drive them slowly doesn't mean they can't be driven 
rapidly...

I should like to point out that I have one of the most rapidly driven W123s 
I've ever seen. It seems like many people don't dare to drive a diesel care 
very rapidly...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:10:46 -0400
From: Walt Zarnoch 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I've been stuck behind a few on the thruway...

"Rolling roadblock on line one, rolling roadblock on line one..."

Going 60 in the fast lane of a 65 marked road...

Walt
On May 9, 2012 9:07 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> You've clearly never driven a Prius...
>
> At least compared to an diesel Mercedes I've ever driven.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 07:52:11 -0400
> From: Walt Zarnoch 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> "Open pod bay doors..."
>
> On an underpowered prius, sure.
> On anything with a few hundred horse, NO!
>
> Walt

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Re: [MBZ] Slow list

[Randy Bennell]

I am good with temps around 70 F. Not too hot, not too cold. Don't have 
to rely on AC all the time. Perfect.


Randy

On 09/05/2012 3:35 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

66F here and people would be bitching about the cold. Mid 80s today with a nice 
sea breeze off the Gulf. I eat lunch in a downtown park a few blocks from my 
office, and it was quite comfortable today, considering that it is May.

66F would be great as far as I am concerned

Dan







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Re: [MBZ] Slow list

[WILTON]

Yep, lotsa might days in late spring and summer up nawth.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 4:13 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Slow list



Not much traffic on the list.

Too early for summer holidays

Beautiful day here  today. Wish I could drop everything and go mow the 
lawn or something outdoors.
When I went to the bank a bit ago my truck outside temp readout says 19 
which is about 66 F. Sun is shining, sky is blue.

I bet the golf courses are busy this afternoon.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire

[WILTON]

And a gun rack in rear window/windshield.  ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire


Indeed, MB does know about those sorts of things, which is why the 
circuits

are designed for the factory load. When you increase the wattage of the
bulb, you need to increase the wiring to handle it. Hence the relay (to
handle the higher switching loads) and new larger wires.
All a moot point, unless your new bulbs burn up the old wires (not 
likely).

Perhaps a set of driving lights added to the car would be the ticket for
more light? Even better, four more added above the windshield?

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Hendrik & Fay 
wrote:



Great write up Ernest, don't know about sticking in another relay, MB
should know something about this sort of thing and messing with the
lighting circuit may upset the bulb out system, which I like to have
working.









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Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire

[Dan Penoff]

Even with stock lamps, upgrading to 12GA wire and relays makes a noticeable 
difference. One of the best cheap upgrades you can do, and simple to reverse.

Dan 

OK Don  wrote:

>Indeed, MB does know about those sorts of things, which is why the circuits
>are designed for the factory load. When you increase the wattage of the
>bulb, you need to increase the wiring to handle it. Hence the relay (to
>handle the higher switching loads) and new larger wires.
>All a moot point, unless your new bulbs burn up the old wires (not likely).
>Perhaps a set of driving lights added to the car would be the ticket for
>more light? Even better, four more added above the windshield?
>
>On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:
>
>> Great write up Ernest, don't know about sticking in another relay, MB
>> should know something about this sort of thing and messing with the
>> lighting circuit may upset the bulb out system, which I like to have
>> working.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Slow list

[Dan Penoff]

66F here and people would be bitching about the cold. Mid 80s today with a nice 
sea breeze off the Gulf. I eat lunch in a downtown park a few blocks from my 
office, and it was quite comfortable today, considering that it is May.

66F would be great as far as I am concerned

Dan



Randy Bennell  wrote:

>Not much traffic on the list.
>
>Too early for summer holidays
>
>Beautiful day here  today. Wish I could drop everything and go mow the 
>lawn or something outdoors.
>When I went to the bank a bit ago my truck outside temp readout says 19 
>which is about 66 F. Sun is shining, sky is blue.
>I bet the golf courses are busy this afternoon.
>
>Randy
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Re: [MBZ] Slow list

[Craig]

On Wed, 09 May 2012 15:13:12 -0500 Randy Bennell 
wrote:

> Not much traffic on the list.

Yup.


> Too early for summer holidays

Yup.


> Beautiful day here  today. Wish I could drop everything and go mow the 
> lawn or something outdoors.
> When I went to the bank a bit ago my truck outside temp readout says 19 
> which is about 66 F. Sun is shining, sky is blue.
> I bet the golf courses are busy this afternoon.

Our weather in Los Alamos is sunny with blue skies. We had 0.32" rain
last night. I've been looking at job openings and have to go do (late)
income tax prep for our accountant.


Craig

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[MBZ] Slow list

[Randy Bennell]

Not much traffic on the list.

Too early for summer holidays

Beautiful day here  today. Wish I could drop everything and go mow the 
lawn or something outdoors.
When I went to the bank a bit ago my truck outside temp readout says 19 
which is about 66 F. Sun is shining, sky is blue.

I bet the golf courses are busy this afternoon.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire

[OK Don]

Indeed, MB does know about those sorts of things, which is why the circuits
are designed for the factory load. When you increase the wattage of the
bulb, you need to increase the wiring to handle it. Hence the relay (to
handle the higher switching loads) and new larger wires.
All a moot point, unless your new bulbs burn up the old wires (not likely).
Perhaps a set of driving lights added to the car would be the ticket for
more light? Even better, four more added above the windshield?

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:

> Great write up Ernest, don't know about sticking in another relay, MB
> should know something about this sort of thing and messing with the
> lighting circuit may upset the bulb out system, which I like to have
> working.
>
>>
>>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gen Set, Manual Cutoff switch

[Craig]

On Wed, 09 May 2012 11:22:25 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Randy Bennell wrote:
> > 
> > Try again. Works fine for me.
> > 
> 
> Worked for me, clicking a link from Craig's email.

Works for me now, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gen Set, Manual Cutoff switch

[Mitch Haley]

Randy Bennell wrote:


Try again. Works fine for me.



Worked for me, clicking a link from Craig's email.

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Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire

[Craig]

On Wed, 09 May 2012 16:59:35 +0930 Hendrik & Fay 
wrote:

> I believe this is Mr Sterns shop 
> http://store.candlepower.com/houpbuthno.html and if it is he sells the 
> older predecessor +80 bulbs.

No, it is not Daniel Stern's shop; it's a cheap imitation.

His shop is at http://danielsternlighting.com/


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gen Set, Manual Cutoff switch

[Randy Bennell]

Try again. Works fine for me.

Randy

On 09/05/2012 10:00 AM, Craig wrote:

On Wed, 9 May 2012 05:45:32 -0700 Jim Cathey
wrote:


My surplus switchage cost me $60 at auction.  Not too bad, even
if I never can use it.  See:

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset.html#26Sep2005

I tried it and got:

The file http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset.html#26Sep2005
cannot be found. Please check the location and try again.

Also,

The file http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset.html cannot be
found. Please check the location and try again


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gen Set, Manual Cutoff switch

[Craig]

On Wed, 9 May 2012 05:45:32 -0700 Jim Cathey 
wrote:

> My surplus switchage cost me $60 at auction.  Not too bad, even
> if I never can use it.  See:
> 
> http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset.html#26Sep2005

I tried it and got:

   The file http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset.html#26Sep2005
   cannot be found. Please check the location and try again.

Also,

The file http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset.html cannot be
found. Please check the location and try again


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test

[Walt Zarnoch]

I've been stuck behind a few on the thruway...

"Rolling roadblock on line one, rolling roadblock on line one..."

Going 60 in the fast lane of a 65 marked road...

Walt
On May 9, 2012 9:07 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> You've clearly never driven a Prius...
>
> At least compared to an diesel Mercedes I've ever driven.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 07:52:11 -0400
> From: Walt Zarnoch 
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> "Open pod bay doors..."
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> On an underpowered prius, sure.
> On anything with a few hundred horse, NO!
>
> Walt
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Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test

[Curt Raymond]

You've clearly never driven a Prius...

At least compared to an diesel Mercedes I've ever driven.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 07:52:11 -0400
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"Open pod bay doors..."

On an underpowered prius, sure.
On anything with a few hundred horse, NO!

Walt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Gen Set, Manual Cutoff switch

[Jim Cathey]

The power feed is now centralized, but I did _not_ get my
manual cutoff switch, and so I still need two generators.


By "cutoff switch" do you mean "transfer switch"?


Not really.  I have a big-ass 400A manual cutoff switch, a big
ol' red-handled surplus Westinghouse that's outdoor rated.  My plan
was to use that, initially to support my current backfeed procedure,
but later to allow _me_ to install a manual transfer switch
(of which I also have some surplus gear that I ought to be
able to make work).  This'd all be outside at the meter stand.
Could switch to an automatic switch if I wanted to, later, but
I have little interest in that.  I don't _want_ hospital-grade
power, and I certainly don't want a big-ass house-sized generator
to come on by itself in the middle of the night, or when we're
not even home, and suck the tank dry before morning.  I want to
be in control.  (But I want it to be easy enough for my wife or
son to do, too.)

The big red handle would give me the easy ability to work on
my own wiring, and the ability to test any automatic system
'for-realsies'.

My surplus switchage cost me $60 at auction.  Not too bad, even
if I never can use it.  See:

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset.html#26Sep2005

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 1988 300ce

[Mitch Haley]

Hendrik & Fay wrote:
Yes the 90-93 C124's had the M104 with KE-jetronic, more powerful than 
the later electronic injected ones.
Also I am pretty sure they got a 5 speed box but the M103 only got 4 
speed boxes, which is a plus, in terms of relaiblity.


I think that in USA, all the (very few) 124 manual transmissions were five speed 
and all the automatics were four speed. We didn't see the 5 speed electronic 
auto box in the E class until 1997. It's a solid transmission, as long as you 
replace the conductor plate (and a spring in the valve body on 97-99 models) 
ever ten years or so. Mine has 237,000 miles on it. The conductor plate was bad 
when I bought it at 234k, so I had the spring replaced while the valve body was 
removed to replace the conductor plate.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire

[Jim Cathey]

As I found on my wife's 450 SL, the voltage drop in the
wiring harness was 1.2V on high beams.  That's roughly
10%, which is significant.  After the relay job the
voltage drop was only 0.3V, even with 400W of high beam
bulbs.  Ignoring the increased wattage, the voltage
change alone netted about a 30% increase in light.
Bulb life, though, should have gone down to 1/3 of
what it was before.  TANSTAAFL.  That car had no
bulb-out system to worry about.

See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLlights.html

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test

[Walt Zarnoch]

"Open pod bay doors..."

On an underpowered prius, sure.
On anything with a few hundred horse, NO!

Walt
On May 9, 2012 7:44 AM, "Gerry Archer"  wrote:

> Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada,
> which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip.  The self-driving
> cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback
>
> The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use
> public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of
> mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds.
> Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars
> "along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and
> the busy Las Vegas Strip", they said in a statement.
> It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for
> autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March.
> The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be
> allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a
> distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side.
>
> Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive
> themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military
> firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric
> Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human
> drivers is a "bug".
>
> "It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars," he said in 2010 as
> Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University.
>
> As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws
> to allow autonomous cars on its roads.
> "The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error,"
> California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced
> autonomous car legislation.
> "Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous
> vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and
> operating the vehicle more safely."
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**technology/google/9252275/**
> Googles-robot-cars-pass-**driving-test.html
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[MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test

[Gerry Archer]

Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, 
which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip.  The self-driving 
cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback


The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public 
roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping 
data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds.
Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars 
"along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and 
the busy Las Vegas Strip", they said in a statement.
It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for 
autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March.
The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be 
allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a 
distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side.


Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive 
themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms 
to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt 
has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a 
"bug".


"It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars," he said in 2010 as 
Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University.


As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to 
allow autonomous cars on its roads.
"The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error," California 
state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car 
legislation.
"Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous 
vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and 
operating the vehicle more safely."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html 



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Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire

[Gerry Archer]

Speaking of sunglasses, you might have Georgia wear dark wrap-around
sunglasses for 15 to 30 minutes until she's seated in the car and ready to 
start
night driving.  Years ago a radiologist I worked with at a hospital would 
wear
a special type of glasses with colored lens before doing certain xray 
examinations;
flouroscopy; I think.  He said this caused the pupils to open wider; 
something
they were not accustomed to doing since working/living in the dark is not 
what most
people do.  Teenagers are still in a developmental stage, so Georgias poor 
night

vision; if that is her problem; may correct itself in time.
Gerry

From: "Hendrik & Fay" 
Great write up Ernest, don't know about sticking in another relay, MB 
should know something about this sort of thing and messing with the 
lighting circuit may upset the bulb out system, which I like to have 
working.
The lenses and reflectors look clean and I am not keen to pull them apart 
unless I really have to, 22 year old plastic can be brittle.
The X-treme vision are not supposed to put out a blue light and the 
reviews for them are favourable.
I believe this is Mr Sterns shop 
http://store.candlepower.com/houpbuthno.html and if it is he sells the 
older predecessor +80 bulbs.
Like I said Georgia is not very experienced and driving at night is not 
the easiest thing to do, if I can increase the light output of the 
headlights it should help her to be more confident driving at night, the 
X-treme vision are particularly suited to rain.
Personally I have never thought that the light output (specially on low 
beam) was that great in the TE, many years I mucked around with fancy 
bulbs in the 123 I had but the results where not that great.
I bought a pair of X-treme vision off ebay for AU$54 this morning so we'll 
see how they go when they get here and I fit them.
The local auto sparky wanted AU$89 for a pair, so I told him that I would 
be shopping online. I can understand him putting on a 15-20 dollar mark up 
but 35 is fleecing and he did not even say that the price includes 
fitting.
Yes I know that the life of the + bulbs is shorter. I think I read that 
the average for the +80's was 350 hours and that the standard bulbs is 650 
hours.


Hendrik
who will need to wear sunglasses whilst driving at night

On 08/05/12 04:35, ernest breakfield wrote:

Hendrik,

i don't know if they've changed drastically, but the Osram bulbs i've 
got in some of my vehicles are probably older than your daughter, and 
some of the best our family has used. (we have several lighting geeks in 
the family, some by profession.)


frankly, while it's likely that your headlights could benefit from 
some better quality bulbs, i think your best benefit might be to rig them 
up using relays if you're handy with that sort of thing, and then check 
to see if you really need brighter bulbs. it's also not impossible that 
you might benefit from taking the lamps out and making sure they get a 
good cleaning; no matter how bright a bulb (globe?) you put in there, if 
the lenses and reflectors are dirty, they're not doing their best job of 
putting the light where it's supposed to go.
keep in mind that the more 'plus' you go on bulbs, the shorter the 
life of the bulbs is likely to be.
also, the more you get into the blue stuff, the less clearly you're 
likely to be able to see detail. (think about how difficult it is to 
focus on a blue light; i've read that our eyes actually respond better to 
light closer in color to the natural yellow of sunlight.) much of the 
blue stuff on the road these days is a result of marketing playing to the 
mis-impression left by the blue cast of the early HID lamps and the fact 
that people associated that with "blue=new=better".


i'll second the referral to Daniel Stern for topics of lighting; an 
interesting character by many accounts, but seems to know his stuff when 
it comes to automotive lighting, and his prices, while not always the 
very cheapest, are fair considering the knowledge he's willing to impart.


lastly (and probably most importantly!), if your daughter is really 
having that much problem with vision at night, there's something wrong 
there. young eyes like hers shouldn't be having that much trouble with 
the dark, so either she has an strong fear of driving at night (which is 
respectable), or there's something wrong with her eyes. it might be 
beneficial to have those eyes checked, just so you know where the problem 
really lies.



cheers!
e

On 06/May/12 18:22, Hendrik & Fay wrote:
My daughter has her learners and as part of the process she needs to do 
15 hours of night driving.
As some of you will probably know the stock lights in a 124 are not that 
bright and I think me daughter notices this more so than me.
To try and retify this somewhat I am planning on installing some Philips 
aftermarked bulbs. Apparently while the Osrams are cheaper they are not 
as good or last as long.
I have a choice of three 
http://

Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire

[Hendrik & Fay]

Great write up Ernest, don't know about sticking in another relay, MB 
should know something about this sort of thing and messing with the 
lighting circuit may upset the bulb out system, which I like to have 
working.
The lenses and reflectors look clean and I am not keen to pull them 
apart unless I really have to, 22 year old plastic can be brittle.
The X-treme vision are not supposed to put out a blue light and the 
reviews for them are favourable.
I believe this is Mr Sterns shop 
http://store.candlepower.com/houpbuthno.html and if it is he sells the 
older predecessor +80 bulbs.
Like I said Georgia is not very experienced and driving at night is not 
the easiest thing to do, if I can increase the light output of the 
headlights it should help her to be more confident driving at night, the 
X-treme vision are particularly suited to rain.
Personally I have never thought that the light output (specially on low 
beam) was that great in the TE, many years I mucked around with fancy 
bulbs in the 123 I had but the results where not that great.
I bought a pair of X-treme vision off ebay for AU$54 this morning so 
we'll see how they go when they get here and I fit them.
The local auto sparky wanted AU$89 for a pair, so I told him that I 
would be shopping online. I can understand him putting on a 15-20 dollar 
mark up but 35 is fleecing and he did not even say that the price 
includes fitting.
Yes I know that the life of the + bulbs is shorter. I think I read that 
the average for the +80's was 350 hours and that the standard bulbs is 
650 hours.


Hendrik
who will need to wear sunglasses whilst driving at night

On 08/05/12 04:35, ernest breakfield wrote:

Hendrik,

i don't know if they've changed drastically, but the Osram bulbs 
i've got in some of my vehicles are probably older than your daughter, 
and some of the best our family has used. (we have several lighting 
geeks in the family, some by profession.)


frankly, while it's likely that your headlights could benefit from 
some better quality bulbs, i think your best benefit might be to rig 
them up using relays if you're handy with that sort of thing, and then 
check to see if you really need brighter bulbs. it's also not 
impossible that you might benefit from taking the lamps out and making 
sure they get a good cleaning; no matter how bright a bulb (globe?) 
you put in there, if the lenses and reflectors are dirty, they're not 
doing their best job of putting the light where it's supposed to go.
keep in mind that the more 'plus' you go on bulbs, the shorter the 
life of the bulbs is likely to be.
also, the more you get into the blue stuff, the less clearly 
you're likely to be able to see detail. (think about how difficult it 
is to focus on a blue light; i've read that our eyes actually respond 
better to light closer in color to the natural yellow of sunlight.) 
much of the blue stuff on the road these days is a result of marketing 
playing to the mis-impression left by the blue cast of the early HID 
lamps and the fact that people associated that with "blue=new=better".


i'll second the referral to Daniel Stern for topics of lighting; 
an interesting character by many accounts, but seems to know his stuff 
when it comes to automotive lighting, and his prices, while not always 
the very cheapest, are fair considering the knowledge he's willing to 
impart.


lastly (and probably most importantly!), if your daughter is 
really having that much problem with vision at night, there's 
something wrong there. young eyes like hers shouldn't be having that 
much trouble with the dark, so either she has an strong fear of 
driving at night (which is respectable), or there's something wrong 
with her eyes. it might be beneficial to have those eyes checked, just 
so you know where the problem really lies.



cheers!
e

On 06/May/12 18:22, Hendrik & Fay wrote:
My daughter has her learners and as part of the process she needs to 
do 15 hours of night driving.
As some of you will probably know the stock lights in a 124 are not 
that bright and I think me daughter notices this more so than me.
To try and retify this somewhat I am planning on installing some 
Philips aftermarked bulbs. Apparently while the Osrams are cheaper 
they are not as good or last as long.
I have a choice of three 
http://www.invisionsales.com/lighting/philips-globes/headlight-upgrades/see-more

obviously the +100 XtremeVision ones are the go.
Anyone have any experience with these brighter bulbs.
BTW for all the fans out there 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPuKoqu6kMk


Hendrik
who says: "thank you very much"







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Re: [MBZ] Bright lights gonna set my 300TE on fire in the rain

[Hendrik & Fay]

Alright you got me, we all stop driving, strip naked and dance in the 
rain, when it actually does rain.

We do get a bit of rain in the driest state on the driest continent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Adelaide
Actually we had a little last night.

Hendrik
who got wet on a job last week

On 08/05/12 07:20, OK Don wrote:

I didn't think that you were getting enough rain for it to be an issue. The
rain is in the NE part of the country? If it does start to rain, everything
stops and you party!

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Hendrik&  Faywrote:


Well that's the thing with these bulbs, direct drop in replacement with
60/55w consumption just like stock.
Basically the technology of today's headlight bulbs is better.
Here is a review http://aphnetworks.com/lounge/**
2009_christmas_review_special_**philips_x_treme_power_80it
 also goes into why HID lights are a bad idea as an upgrade. Also these
bulbs do not give off a blue light which is illegal, as are HID kits,
unless you meet certain criteria.
I don't think it is so much night vision but confidence, I don't
particularly like driving at night in the rain and someone who is just
learning will feel very uneasy when things are not nice and bright.

Hendrik
who has pretty good night vision






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Re: [MBZ] 1988 300ce

[Hendrik & Fay]

Yes the 90-93 C124's had the M104 with KE-jetronic, more powerful than 
the later electronic injected ones.
Also I am pretty sure they got a 5 speed box but the M103 only got 4 
speed boxes, which is a plus, in terms of relaiblity.


Hendrik
who has the M103 and 4 speed auto

On 08/05/12 05:13, Craig wrote:

On Mon, 7 May 2012 10:16:21 -0700 Alex Chamberlain
  wrote:


http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/2956641659.html

IIRC this was the first year for the 124 coupe.  Any gotchas to look out
for?  Do these have any unique unobtainium parts like 123 coupe door
seals or SLC quarter window louvers?

Sorry, I don't know.



Also, I know the coupes got the 104 engine before the sedans... was that
the case from the beginning or would this one still have the 103?

> From the W124 manual CDs:

MODEL   YEARS   CHASSIS ENGINE

260E1987-92 124.026 103.983
300CE   1988-89 124.050 103.983
300CE   1990-93 124.051 104.98
300CE   1993-95 124.066 104.992
300D Turbo  1987124.133 603.960
300D 2.5 Turbo  1992-93 124.128 602.962
300E1986-92 124.030 103.983
300E1994-95 124.032 104.992
300E 2.81993124.028 104.942
300E 4Matic 1990-93 124.230 103.985
300TD Turbo 1987124.193 603.960
300TE   1987-92 124.090 103.983
300TE   1993-95 124.092 104.992
300TE 4Matic1990-93 124.290 103.985
400E1992-95 124.034 119.975
500E1992-93 124.036 119.974
E300D   1995124.131 606.910
E3201993-95 124.032 104.992
E4201994-95 124.034 119.975
E5001994-95 124.036 119.974

So, the Coupes did get the M104 before the sedans, but in '88 and '89
they still had the M103.


Craig

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