Re: [MBZ] 150mph
Well a W126 300SDL can do 120mph, W124 300E can do 140mph and a Ducati SS 800 can do 158mph. I can see a Camaro doing 150. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 150mph The miscreants stolen Hertz Camaro had 4 flat tires... the cop car had cop car tires speed rated for high speed chases. I raise sincere doubt the rental Camaro would do 150. Could I see the chase video on that with the GPS screen link? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:52 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car AT 150MPH... Speaking of 150mph, just yesterday morning a miscreant stole a 2012 Hertz Camaro at Sea-Tac airport and took off southbound. He was spotted down in Thurston County by a Deputy who reported that he was behind the Camaro at 150mph. He was finally stopped by spike strips. I wonder what kind of tires the two cars had on them. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 150mph
TE wrote: Well a W126 300SDL can do 120mph, W124 300E can do 140mph and a Ducati SS 800 can do 158mph. I can see a Camaro doing 150. In the mid 1980s, Road and Track tested an IROC-Z Camaro (automatic) against a Mustang GT (5 sp). The two cars were about as close together as you'd expect two Mustangs or two Camaros to be in straight line performance. They both topped out between 145 and 150, back when 200 hp was considered strong for a small block V8. A 1984 Corvette would do an honest 150+. What's a new Camaro make, 400hp? This talk reminds me of some published test numbers that don't seem to make sense to me, 50 year old sports car magazine tests. I forget how fast the first XKE was supposed to go, but it was unbelievably fast. Mechanics Illustrated's Tom McCahill claimed something like 160mph in a 1963 Corvette split window and 150mph in the convertible. Did GM have a fleet of race prepped cars they lent out to magazine reviewers? I wouldn't think a Stingray could keep its front wheels on the ground at over 160mph, even if it did have the power to push it that fast. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 150mph
I can see a Camaro doing 150. I have seen _mine_, repeatedly, doing 143, indicated. 1984 model. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings. Mike On May 12, 2012 12:40 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:55:07 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Amazingly enough, I still haven't triggered the BAS in my 210 wagon. I would have been ticked if the BAS had kicked in and thrown my laptop off the back seat. BAS? Brake assist system. The car (1998 or later 210, 2000 or later of just about any MBZ) decides when you're in a panic situation but failing to jam the brakes on full, and jams them on full for you. Hope your computer is in the footwell and nobody is following close behind you. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another question about what it's like to live in various parts of the country ...
One word: liberal --R On 5/11/12 10:07 PM, Craig wrote: Anyone one know anything about Rhode Island and Connecticut? Thanks, Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 108 kmi '94 E420Oskar 123 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 265 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Detailing Machine Question
I have the Makita... its really an excellent tool. As for rotary vs orbital, thats up to you. I'm happy with Rotary, but you have to be more careful with it. I've done some nice work with it. Related: My first experience with one of these polishers was a horrible freight model I borrowed from a friend. Half was through polishing a hood, I noticed little bits of the gear box were flying around. It was all plastic and overheating. The thing was brand new, too! I went right out and bought the Makita and haven't looked back since. Jaime On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Which polisher? Rotary or Random Orbital? http://www.coastaltool.com/a/makita/9227c.htm http://www.coastaltool.com/a/port/7424xp_car_buffer.htm http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/griots+garage+random+orbital.do?sortby=ourPicks Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] random orbital
As the resident detail maniac, I would encourage anyone who wants to buy a buffer/polisher to stay away from the right angle style as their first choice. Why? Because these will do serious damage to a car's finish faster than you will realize it. They are great for production work and serious restoration, but for the weekend car waxer or occasional detailing the vertical random orbital polisher is the way to go. I don't have any links handy, but this is the type of polisher that has the large 9-12 pad and has handles on each side, like a woodworking router. The only negative about these is the sometimes difficult ability to get into tight spaces, but otherwise they work great and are very unlikely to damage the finish. I have an old Craftsman model I think I paid $30 for, and another $20 for extra pads. I can polish and wax a car in about an hour. Right angle polishers are great, but without practice and caution will quickly destroy a paint job. I have a right angle polisher, but I rarely use it, as it's heavy and requires a lot more effort to use. I get it out when I am doing some serious compounding or paint restoration. Otherwise it's overkill. Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:42 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Which polisher? Rotary or Random Orbital?.. Porter-Cable 7424 6 random orbital. I've had mine for a long time and it does the job with minimum effort. Amateurs should not use rotaries. Looks like the lowest prices are under $120. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] random orbital
After I've thought about this for a few moments... Dan is right. I generally use my rotary model for some serious restoration work. 20 year old cars that have never seen wax, etc. For general polishing, it really is overkill. Go for the orbital for this case. The one the rusty posted really looks cool... Jaime On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: As the resident detail maniac, I would encourage anyone who wants to buy a buffer/polisher to stay away from the right angle style as their first choice. Why? Because these will do serious damage to a car's finish faster than you will realize it. They are great for production work and serious restoration, but for the weekend car waxer or occasional detailing the vertical random orbital polisher is the way to go. I don't have any links handy, but this is the type of polisher that has the large 9-12 pad and has handles on each side, like a woodworking router. The only negative about these is the sometimes difficult ability to get into tight spaces, but otherwise they work great and are very unlikely to damage the finish. I have an old Craftsman model I think I paid $30 for, and another $20 for extra pads. I can polish and wax a car in about an hour. Right angle polishers are great, but without practice and caution will quickly destroy a paint job. I have a right angle polisher, but I rarely use it, as it's heavy and requires a lot more effort to use. I get it out when I am doing some serious compounding or paint restoration. Otherwise it's overkill. Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:42 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Which polisher? Rotary or Random Orbital?.. Porter-Cable 7424 6 random orbital. I've had mine for a long time and it does the job with minimum effort. Amateurs should not use rotaries. Looks like the lowest prices are under $120. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 150mph
This reminds me of my neighbor who had the '56 XK140MC. He got stopped by a cop in Maine one night who claimed he was doing 120mph in it. The cop let him go because he was amazed by that feat. In looking at the car 30 or more years later I was amazed that one would do that on the skinny little tires it had. Those old Jagyoowahs had some getupandgo. --R On 5/12/12 8:29 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: TE wrote: Well a W126 300SDL can do 120mph, W124 300E can do 140mph and a Ducati SS 800 can do 158mph. I can see a Camaro doing 150. In the mid 1980s, Road and Track tested an IROC-Z Camaro (automatic) against a Mustang GT (5 sp). The two cars were about as close together as you'd expect two Mustangs or two Camaros to be in straight line performance. They both topped out between 145 and 150, back when 200 hp was considered strong for a small block V8. A 1984 Corvette would do an honest 150+. What's a new Camaro make, 400hp? This talk reminds me of some published test numbers that don't seem to make sense to me, 50 year old sports car magazine tests. I forget how fast the first XKE was supposed to go, but it was unbelievably fast. Mechanics Illustrated's Tom McCahill claimed something like 160mph in a 1963 Corvette split window and 150mph in the convertible. Did GM have a fleet of race prepped cars they lent out to magazine reviewers? I wouldn't think a Stingray could keep its front wheels on the ground at over 160mph, even if it did have the power to push it that fast. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rip Carroll Shelby
He had an aftermarket heart for 22 years! --R On 5/11/12 9:12 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/11/11663447-carroll-shelby-muscle-car-legend-dies-at-89 Rick Sent from my iPhone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] random orbital
Now that I am close to a computer I was able to find some examples: http://www.amazon.com/Titan-22610-10-Inch-Electric-Polisher/dp/B000UOHZ7C Here is a BD that's a 6: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-WP900-6-Inch-Polisher/dp/B77CPT I like my 10 model, as it covers a lot of area, which allows me to do a car in relatively short time. I will usually apply the (3M Show Car Wax) by hand in one section, then use the buffer to buff the wax out/off. The areas I can't get with the buffer are taken off by hand. Using this method you can do a typical four door sedan in under and hour, easy. The ergonomics of this type of buffer are much better for doing large areas, too, at least I think they are. Just my $0.02. Dan On May 12, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: After I've thought about this for a few moments... Dan is right. I generally use my rotary model for some serious restoration work. 20 year old cars that have never seen wax, etc. For general polishing, it really is overkill. Go for the orbital for this case. The one the rusty posted really looks cool... Jaime On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: As the resident detail maniac, I would encourage anyone who wants to buy a buffer/polisher to stay away from the right angle style as their first choice. Why? Because these will do serious damage to a car's finish faster than you will realize it. They are great for production work and serious restoration, but for the weekend car waxer or occasional detailing the vertical random orbital polisher is the way to go. I don't have any links handy, but this is the type of polisher that has the large 9-12 pad and has handles on each side, like a woodworking router. The only negative about these is the sometimes difficult ability to get into tight spaces, but otherwise they work great and are very unlikely to damage the finish. I have an old Craftsman model I think I paid $30 for, and another $20 for extra pads. I can polish and wax a car in about an hour. Right angle polishers are great, but without practice and caution will quickly destroy a paint job. I have a right angle polisher, but I rarely use it, as it's heavy and requires a lot more effort to use. I get it out when I am doing some serious compounding or paint restoration. Otherwise it's overkill. Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:42 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Which polisher? Rotary or Random Orbital?.. Porter-Cable 7424 6 random orbital. I've had mine for a long time and it does the job with minimum effort. Amateurs should not use rotaries. Looks like the lowest prices are under $120. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 150mph
Upon reflection, I find that my experience with the criminal mind is such that I am unqualified to deduce that the car thief would check the speed rating of tires on the stolen car as a qualifying condition to exceed the bounds of common sense. Therefore I recuse myself. I do however nominate the aforementioned thief for the Darwin Award. Perhaps the original question re tire selection failed to consider the limited capacity of professional thief to do pre-theft tire changes in preparation of high speed runs from police. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: My cars tires are rated faster than the speed cut. Then again, you can't get Falken tires in the style I have unless they are Z rated (149+ mph)... :/ Walt, who is dreading tire change time... On May 12, 2012 1:07 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The miscreants stolen Hertz Camaro had 4 flat tires... the cop car had cop car tires speed rated for high speed chases. I raise sincere doubt the rental Camaro would do 150. Could I see the chase video on that with the GPS screen link? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:52 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car AT 150MPH... Speaking of 150mph, just yesterday morning a miscreant stole a 2012 Hertz Camaro at Sea-Tac airport and took off southbound. He was spotted down in Thurston County by a Deputy who reported that he was behind the Camaro at 150mph. He was finally stopped by spike strips. I wonder what kind of tires the two cars had on them. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 150mph
Maine state troopers are on the prowl for sure. I learned my lesson from my dad. Back in the early 1990's he'd come visit me or pick me up from college in Maine. He'd drive up from CT the six hours it took in his 560SEL doing around 80 mph or so- a perfectly reasonable speed for a nice wide interstate in the middle of the night with no traffic in a capable highway cruiser. He collected a few tickets and with that in mind I've been very careful since. I'm sure the troopers had no sympathy for the poor old guy due to the car he was driving. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: This reminds me of my neighbor who had the '56 XK140MC. He got stopped by a cop in Maine one night who claimed he was doing 120mph in it. The cop let him go because he was amazed by that feat. In looking at the car 30 or more years later I was amazed that one would do that on the skinny little tires it had. Those old Jagyoowahs had some getupandgo. --R On 5/12/12 8:29 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: TE wrote: Well a W126 300SDL can do 120mph, W124 300E can do 140mph and a Ducati SS 800 can do 158mph. I can see a Camaro doing 150. In the mid 1980s, Road and Track tested an IROC-Z Camaro (automatic) against a Mustang GT (5 sp). The two cars were about as close together as you'd expect two Mustangs or two Camaros to be in straight line performance. They both topped out between 145 and 150, back when 200 hp was considered strong for a small block V8. A 1984 Corvette would do an honest 150+. What's a new Camaro make, 400hp? This talk reminds me of some published test numbers that don't seem to make sense to me, 50 year old sports car magazine tests. I forget how fast the first XKE was supposed to go, but it was unbelievably fast. Mechanics Illustrated's Tom McCahill claimed something like 160mph in a 1963 Corvette split window and 150mph in the convertible. Did GM have a fleet of race prepped cars they lent out to magazine reviewers? I wouldn't think a Stingray could keep its front wheels on the ground at over 160mph, even if it did have the power to push it that fast. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 150mph
It is my opinion that no cop should engage in a chase involving 150 mph speeds. It's better to let the guy go than put other innocent people at risk should an inevitable collision occur. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2012, at 11:44 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Upon reflection, I find that my experience with the criminal mind is such that I am unqualified to deduce that the car thief would check the speed rating of tires on the stolen car as a qualifying condition to exceed the bounds of common sense. Therefore I recuse myself. I do however nominate the aforementioned thief for the Darwin Award. Perhaps the original question re tire selection failed to consider the limited capacity of professional thief to do pre-theft tire changes in preparation of high speed runs from police. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: My cars tires are rated faster than the speed cut. Then again, you can't get Falken tires in the style I have unless they are Z rated (149+ mph)... :/ Walt, who is dreading tire change time... On May 12, 2012 1:07 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The miscreants stolen Hertz Camaro had 4 flat tires... the cop car had cop car tires speed rated for high speed chases. I raise sincere doubt the rental Camaro would do 150. Could I see the chase video on that with the GPS screen link? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:52 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car AT 150MPH... Speaking of 150mph, just yesterday morning a miscreant stole a 2012 Hertz Camaro at Sea-Tac airport and took off southbound. He was spotted down in Thurston County by a Deputy who reported that he was behind the Camaro at 150mph. He was finally stopped by spike strips. I wonder what kind of tires the two cars had on them. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off
Gerry, I use Bounce Fabric Softener Sheets to remove Love Bugs. Wet the bug infected area and the sheet start wiping. It will take some elbow grease to get the one that are baked on but they will come off and it's safe on paint and wax. I also treat my windshield with Rainex it keeps the little buggers from sticking. Some ppl around here use Pam Cooking spray on the nose of the car to prevent them from sticking. A friend of mine tried it and saw no difference in ease of removal. Russ W. Keeping an eye out for the little buggers who are just starting to show up here. On 5/11/2012 20:37, Gerry Archer wrote: That's what I was afraid of about using the volatile based products. Too bad the water based adhesive didn't work. Love bug season has started in the this area and north of here. What's the best way to clean them off the windshield, grill, fenders, etc. without removing the wax coating? For those unfamiliar with love bugs, they are little black insects that congregate on roads in the summer in southern states by the millions and splatter on your windshield, grill, and other parts of your car as you drive. They fly around in pairs; hung together in a mating stance; hence the name love bugs. Their scientific name is: Plecia nearctica. http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/misc/lovebug.htm The best way to identify them precisely is to watch very closely, and just before they hit your windshield, you can see a smile on their little faces. Gerry From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com There is 8090 and 8088 if I recall correctly. One is heavy duty and the other is just general, which I assume would not be heavy duty. Wicked stuff. Just be sure to cover up well, as it is like brake fluid when it gets on paint. The second it touches paint the surface is destroyed. Don't ask me how I know Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4991 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4992 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 150mph
It is my opinion that no cop should engage in a chase involving 150 mph speeds. It's better to let the guy go than put other innocent people at risk should an inevitable collision occur. Sent from my iPhone Cliche' alert:*** IF WE COULD SAVE JUST ONE LIFE wouldn't it be worth it to ban po - lice from driving faster than the posted speed limits **End Cliche' alert*** Hey it is kinda fun to turn their cliche`s (weapons) back on them! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 150mph
I went through this with some of my classmates in high school, it doesn't matter what YOU THINK a reasonable speed is, there is a posted speed which is the law. Exceeding that posted speed by more than 50% (I can't remember when Maine went to 65mph but around Portland its still 55) will (as it ought to) result in a ticket. Johnny Law doesn't know if you're a terrific driver or a lousy one and on the side of the road he has no way to determine if your car is in excellent condition or just about to fall apart so he's got to err on the side of caution in all cases. -Curt Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:48:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 150mph Message-ID: 1336837694.60651.yext-apple-iph...@web125103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Maine state troopers are on the prowl for sure. I learned my lesson from my dad. Back in the early 1990's he'd come visit me or pick me up from college in Maine. He'd drive up from CT the six hours it took in his 560SEL doing around 80 mph or so- a perfectly reasonable speed for a nice wide interstate in the middle of the night with no traffic in a capable highway cruiser. He collected a few tickets and with that in mind I've been very careful since. I'm sure the troopers had no sympathy for the poor old guy due to the car he was driving. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 150mph
Yup. I know what reasonable is and realize that they have their quotas or whatever. IMO targetting people doing reasonable speeds on wide open roads at 2am is unreasonable. Since I know that some of these guys lack reason, I've decided to adhere to speed limits. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I went through this with some of my classmates in high school, it doesn't matter what YOU THINK a reasonable speed is, there is a posted speed which is the law. Exceeding that posted speed by more than 50% (I can't remember when Maine went to 65mph but around Portland its still 55) will (as it ought to) result in a ticket. Johnny Law doesn't know if you're a terrific driver or a lousy one and on the side of the road he has no way to determine if your car is in excellent condition or just about to fall apart so he's got to err on the side of caution in all cases. -Curt Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 08:48:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 150mph Message-ID: 1336837694.60651.yext-apple-iph...@web125103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Maine state troopers are on the prowl for sure. I learned my lesson from my dad. Back in the early 1990's he'd come visit me or pick me up from college in Maine. He'd drive up from CT the six hours it took in his 560SEL doing around 80 mph or so- a perfectly reasonable speed for a nice wide interstate in the middle of the night with no traffic in a capable highway cruiser. He collected a few tickets and with that in mind I've been very careful since. I'm sure the troopers had no sympathy for the poor old guy due to the car he was driving. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Molding dirt trap
I just removed the small piece of plastic molding down low between rear door and front edge of rear wheel well on right side of my '91 350SDL to paint top edge of it where the base plastic has become exposed; found it packed FULL wet dirt; probably never gets really dry. 'Lucky to have no rusting of the sheet metal behind it; 'sure missed a good chance by having 20 years of wet dirt against it! 'Suggest y'all check these areas and clean up or treat hidden sheet metal as necessary. BTW, the trim comes off by prying outward at bottom to release plastic clip (nipple), then pull downward to release metal clip near top. I did it bassackward - pried out at top (lucky not to break metal clip) first. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bullet proof windows! -- CL Idiot
I have for sale a fully rebuilt s420 with 201xxx miles but gaskets and seals changed and no leaks. Don't let miles fool you cause it has bin well kept and has another 200k to go. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3006445098.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Benzamino -- bids closing!
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3011610161.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off
I did a combination of Rainex on the windshield and Pam on the front when my wife was heading out for a road trip in a new car a few years ago. The combination [plus washer fluid?] caused the wipers to stick on the windshield and the torque took them off of the shafts. She was not pleased. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Russ Williams Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 12:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off Gerry, I use Bounce Fabric Softener Sheets to remove Love Bugs. Wet the bug infected area and the sheet start wiping. It will take some elbow grease to get the one that are baked on but they will come off and it's safe on paint and wax. I also treat my windshield with Rainex it keeps the little buggers from sticking. Some ppl around here use Pam Cooking spray on the nose of the car to prevent them from sticking. A friend of mine tried it and saw no difference in ease of removal. Russ W. Keeping an eye out for the little buggers who are just starting to show up here. On 5/11/2012 20:37, Gerry Archer wrote: That's what I was afraid of about using the volatile based products. Too bad the water based adhesive didn't work. Love bug season has started in the this area and north of here. What's the best way to clean them off the windshield, grill, fenders, etc. without removing the wax coating? For those unfamiliar with love bugs, they are little black insects that congregate on roads in the summer in southern states by the millions and splatter on your windshield, grill, and other parts of your car as you drive. They fly around in pairs; hung together in a mating stance; hence the name love bugs. Their scientific name is: Plecia nearctica. http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/misc/lovebug.htm The best way to identify them precisely is to watch very closely, and just before they hit your windshield, you can see a smile on their little faces. Gerry From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com There is 8090 and 8088 if I recall correctly. One is heavy duty and the other is just general, which I assume would not be heavy duty. Wicked stuff. Just be sure to cover up well, as it is like brake fluid when it gets on paint. The second it touches paint the surface is destroyed. Don't ask me how I know Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4991 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4992 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and
Re: [MBZ] Molding dirt trap
On Sat, 12 May 2012 16:17:27 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I just removed the small piece of plastic molding down low between rear door and front edge of rear wheel well on right side of my '91 350SDL to paint top edge of it where the base plastic has become exposed; found it packed FULL wet dirt; probably never gets really dry. 'Lucky to have no rusting of the sheet metal behind it; 'sure missed a good chance by having 20 years of wet dirt against it! 'Suggest y'all check these areas and clean up or treat hidden sheet metal as necessary. On a W123, there is a plastic plate behind each of the front wheels. These come off without too much difficulty (I don't recall how at the moment) and reveal a lot of dirt and other crud. Since the rear engine compartment drains by the hood hinges drain through these areas, it's a good idea to clean them out once in a while. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off
Gotta try those fixes. I vaguely remember something about Pam but never heard of the other ones. We haven't had love bugs around here in quite a while. Thanks Russ, Gerry From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net Gerry, I use Bounce Fabric Softener Sheets to remove Love Bugs. Wet the bug infected area and the sheet start wiping. It will take some elbow grease to get the one that are baked on but they will come off and it's safe on paint and wax. I also treat my windshield with Rainex it keeps the little buggers from sticking. Some ppl around here use Pam Cooking spray on the nose of the car to prevent them from sticking. A friend of mine tried it and saw no difference in ease of removal. Russ W. Keeping an eye out for the little buggers who are just starting to show up here. On 5/11/2012 20:37, Gerry Archer wrote: That's what I was afraid of about using the volatile based products. Too bad the water based adhesive didn't work. Love bug season has started in the this area and north of here. What's the best way to clean them off the windshield, grill, fenders, etc. without removing the wax coating? For those unfamiliar with love bugs, they are little black insects that congregate on roads in the summer in southern states by the millions and splatter on your windshield, grill, and other parts of your car as you drive. They fly around in pairs; hung together in a mating stance; hence the name love bugs. Their scientific name is: Plecia nearctica. http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/misc/lovebug.htm The best way to identify them precisely is to watch very closely, and just before they hit your windshield, you can see a smile on their little faces. Gerry From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com There is 8090 and 8088 if I recall correctly. One is heavy duty and the other is just general, which I assume would not be heavy duty. Wicked stuff. Just be sure to cover up well, as it is like brake fluid when it gets on paint. The second it touches paint the surface is destroyed. Don't ask me how I know Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4991 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4992 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4993 - Release Date: 05/12/12 ___
Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off
That must have been a unique combination of a particular brand of washer fluid plus RainX. Never heard of RainX sticking the wiper blades otherwise. Also, stores seem to be selling a lot of RainX windshield washer fluid. I wonder what effect it has on the wax coat if any and/or which washer fluid is best? Gerry From: Bill Ringgold billr32...@comcast.net I did a combination of Rainex on the windshield and Pam on the front when my wife was heading out for a road trip in a new car a few years ago. The combination [plus washer fluid?] caused the wipers to stick on the windshield and the torque took them off of the shafts. She was not pleased. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Russ Williams Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 12:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off Gerry, I use Bounce Fabric Softener Sheets to remove Love Bugs. Wet the bug infected area and the sheet start wiping. It will take some elbow grease to get the one that are baked on but they will come off and it's safe on paint and wax. I also treat my windshield with Rainex it keeps the little buggers from sticking. Some ppl around here use Pam Cooking spray on the nose of the car to prevent them from sticking. A friend of mine tried it and saw no difference in ease of removal. Russ W. Keeping an eye out for the little buggers who are just starting to show up here. On 5/11/2012 20:37, Gerry Archer wrote: That's what I was afraid of about using the volatile based products. Too bad the water based adhesive didn't work. Love bug season has started in the this area and north of here. What's the best way to clean them off the windshield, grill, fenders, etc. without removing the wax coating? For those unfamiliar with love bugs, they are little black insects that congregate on roads in the summer in southern states by the millions and splatter on your windshield, grill, and other parts of your car as you drive. They fly around in pairs; hung together in a mating stance; hence the name love bugs. Their scientific name is: Plecia nearctica. http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/misc/lovebug.htm The best way to identify them precisely is to watch very closely, and just before they hit your windshield, you can see a smile on their little faces. Gerry From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com There is 8090 and 8088 if I recall correctly. One is heavy duty and the other is just general, which I assume would not be heavy duty. Wicked stuff. Just be sure to cover up well, as it is like brake fluid when it gets on paint. The second it touches paint the surface is destroyed. Don't ask me how I know Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4991 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery
Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off
PAM just makes a mess. Don't bother. Dan On May 12, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Gotta try those fixes. I vaguely remember something about Pam but never heard of the other ones. We haven't had love bugs around here in quite a while. Thanks Russ, Gerry From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net Gerry, I use Bounce Fabric Softener Sheets to remove Love Bugs. Wet the bug infected area and the sheet start wiping. It will take some elbow grease to get the one that are baked on but they will come off and it's safe on paint and wax. I also treat my windshield with Rainex it keeps the little buggers from sticking. Some ppl around here use Pam Cooking spray on the nose of the car to prevent them from sticking. A friend of mine tried it and saw no difference in ease of removal. Russ W. Keeping an eye out for the little buggers who are just starting to show up here. On 5/11/2012 20:37, Gerry Archer wrote: That's what I was afraid of about using the volatile based products. Too bad the water based adhesive didn't work. Love bug season has started in the this area and north of here. What's the best way to clean them off the windshield, grill, fenders, etc. without removing the wax coating? For those unfamiliar with love bugs, they are little black insects that congregate on roads in the summer in southern states by the millions and splatter on your windshield, grill, and other parts of your car as you drive. They fly around in pairs; hung together in a mating stance; hence the name love bugs. Their scientific name is: Plecia nearctica. http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/misc/lovebug.htm The best way to identify them precisely is to watch very closely, and just before they hit your windshield, you can see a smile on their little faces. Gerry From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com There is 8090 and 8088 if I recall correctly. One is heavy duty and the other is just general, which I assume would not be heavy duty. Wicked stuff. Just be sure to cover up well, as it is like brake fluid when it gets on paint. The second it touches paint the surface is destroyed. Don't ask me how I know Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4991 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4992 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off
On Sat, 12 May 2012 18:38:52 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I wonder what ... which washer fluid is best? Why the Benz Summer Wash and the Benz Winter Wash, of course. See Rusty if you want to buy those, otherwise, I don't know if it makes any difference. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another question about what it's like to live in various parts of the country ...
On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:40:03 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Well that explains it! What states has Craig lived in? For some reason I thought he lived/had lived in MA. As a small child, Minnesota, Montana, and Washington. Growing up, California (Los Angeles and Pasadena). Out on my own in the USAF, Colorado (Colorado Springs), Florida Panhandle, California (Sacramento). After the USAF, California (San Luis Obispo), Colorado (Colorado Springs), Texas (Austin), New Mexico (Los Alamos). I'm looking for a job and wondering what various parts of the country are like so I can decide if I want to apply to a job in a particular location. I live in Greenwich, CT for a short time, right near the NY state line. Yes, that is right near the NY state line! I had not realized that Connecticut has a rectangular snout poking down into New York. As you get farther from NY, the Wall Street influence goes away. That's nice to know. If I wanted to go to nearby Stamford I-95 was guaranteed to be backed up, so it was nice living within walking of downtown Greenwich. Is I-95 backed up along its entire length, or only near New York City and Boston? The coast along Long Island Sound is beautiful, and as you go farther North it is much more rural. Thanks! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off
Yep I agree. That's what my buddy found. On 5/12/2012 18:01, Dan Penoff wrote: PAM just makes a mess. Don't bother. Dan On May 12, 2012, at 6:27 PM, Gerry Archerarche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Gotta try those fixes. I vaguely remember something about Pam but never heard of the other ones. We haven't had love bugs around here in quite a while. Thanks Russ, Gerry From: Russ Williamsrawil...@eatel.net Gerry, I use Bounce Fabric Softener Sheets to remove Love Bugs. Wet the bug infected area and the sheet start wiping. It will take some elbow grease to get the one that are baked on but they will come off and it's safe on paint and wax. I also treat my windshield with Rainex it keeps the little buggers from sticking. Some ppl around here use Pam Cooking spray on the nose of the car to prevent them from sticking. A friend of mine tried it and saw no difference in ease of removal. Russ W. Keeping an eye out for the little buggers who are just starting to show up here. On 5/11/2012 20:37, Gerry Archer wrote: That's what I was afraid of about using the volatile based products. Too bad the water based adhesive didn't work. Love bug season has started in the this area and north of here. What's the best way to clean them off the windshield, grill, fenders, etc. without removing the wax coating? For those unfamiliar with love bugs, they are little black insects that congregate on roads in the summer in southern states by the millions and splatter on your windshield, grill, and other parts of your car as you drive. They fly around in pairs; hung together in a mating stance; hence the name love bugs. Their scientific name is: Plecia nearctica. http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/misc/lovebug.htm The best way to identify them precisely is to watch very closely, and just before they hit your windshield, you can see a smile on their little faces. Gerry From: Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com There is 8090 and 8088 if I recall correctly. One is heavy duty and the other is just general, which I assume would not be heavy duty. Wicked stuff. Just be sure to cover up well, as it is like brake fluid when it gets on paint. The second it touches paint the surface is destroyed. Don't ask me how I know Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Gerry Archerarche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have a can of 3M Super Trim Adhesive #08090. Could that be it? Also have a can of 3M Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive. When I attached the soundproofing the first time, with the hood open I draped a large sheet of plastic over the whole front end of the car and pushed it up over the wipers and windshield. It looks like that arrangement would pretty well protect the finish from overspray, so I feel more secure about using an adhesive that has volatile solvents that might damage the paint. Gerry From: Walt Zarnochzarnoch...@gmail.com After consulting the web on a good nights sleep, it's 3M 90 spray adhesive that you'll be looking for. Sadly, I don't know a brick and mortar store that for sure sells it... Walt On May 11, 2012 6:42 AM, Gerry Archerarche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll try that. Gerry.off to town. From: Walt Zarnochzarnoch...@gmail.com Snip. Got to set the trap. Need a new rabbits foot. /snip I have 2 sets, still attached to the wabbits! Much more fun that way, even if the little buggers chew the carpet. :P I'd try 3M spray adhesive, they make one that will bond most anything to most anything, but I forget the actual number... Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4991 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4992 - Release Date: 05/11/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message.
Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off
Sounds good. I'll get some with the next order. Gerry From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I wonder what ... which washer fluid is best? Why the Benz Summer Wash and the Benz Winter Wash, of course. See Rusty if you want to buy those, otherwise, I don't know if it makes any difference. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4994 - Release Date: 05/12/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another question about what it's like to live in various parts of the country ...
I-95 connects the major East Coast cities. The parts around the major cities will suffer the daily rush hour problems. The rural areas can see heavy traffic during holidays/peak travel seasons as many will travel from the Northeast to Florida along I-95. Part of I-95 in the Northeast are toll road though once you get south of Baltimore it is free. The NY/NJ/CT metro area locally known as the Tri State Area is the largest metro area in the U.S. You can have a traffic jam on the GW at 2AM. GW=George Washington Bridge, connecting NY/NJ. Connecticut is sometimes considered New England, but I would say only the parts of near MA or RI would be considered New England. Greenwich, Stamford, etc. would be NYC metro. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:40:03 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Well that explains it! What states has Craig lived in? For some reason I thought he lived/had lived in MA. As a small child, Minnesota, Montana, and Washington. Growing up, California (Los Angeles and Pasadena). Out on my own in the USAF, Colorado (Colorado Springs), Florida Panhandle, California (Sacramento). After the USAF, California (San Luis Obispo), Colorado (Colorado Springs), Texas (Austin), New Mexico (Los Alamos). I'm looking for a job and wondering what various parts of the country are like so I can decide if I want to apply to a job in a particular location. I live in Greenwich, CT for a short time, right near the NY state line. Yes, that is right near the NY state line! I had not realized that Connecticut has a rectangular snout poking down into New York. As you get farther from NY, the Wall Street influence goes away. That's nice to know. If I wanted to go to nearby Stamford I-95 was guaranteed to be backed up, so it was nice living within walking of downtown Greenwich. Is I-95 backed up along its entire length, or only near New York City and Boston? The coast along Long Island Sound is beautiful, and as you go farther North it is much more rural. Thanks! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another question about what it's like to live in various parts of the country ...
I guess it really depends on what you're after when you move. Tax wise, the Northeast is VERY HIGH particularly when it comes to property taxes. At the same time, there is no sales tax on groceries, and may/may not tax clothes. NY/CT fuel taxes are VERY HIGH. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: I-95 connects the major East Coast cities. The parts around the major cities will suffer the daily rush hour problems. The rural areas can see heavy traffic during holidays/peak travel seasons as many will travel from the Northeast to Florida along I-95. Part of I-95 in the Northeast are toll road though once you get south of Baltimore it is free. The NY/NJ/CT metro area locally known as the Tri State Area is the largest metro area in the U.S. You can have a traffic jam on the GW at 2AM. GW=George Washington Bridge, connecting NY/NJ. Connecticut is sometimes considered New England, but I would say only the parts of near MA or RI would be considered New England. Greenwich, Stamford, etc. would be NYC metro. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:40:03 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Well that explains it! What states has Craig lived in? For some reason I thought he lived/had lived in MA. As a small child, Minnesota, Montana, and Washington. Growing up, California (Los Angeles and Pasadena). Out on my own in the USAF, Colorado (Colorado Springs), Florida Panhandle, California (Sacramento). After the USAF, California (San Luis Obispo), Colorado (Colorado Springs), Texas (Austin), New Mexico (Los Alamos). I'm looking for a job and wondering what various parts of the country are like so I can decide if I want to apply to a job in a particular location. I live in Greenwich, CT for a short time, right near the NY state line. Yes, that is right near the NY state line! I had not realized that Connecticut has a rectangular snout poking down into New York. As you get farther from NY, the Wall Street influence goes away. That's nice to know. If I wanted to go to nearby Stamford I-95 was guaranteed to be backed up, so it was nice living within walking of downtown Greenwich. Is I-95 backed up along its entire length, or only near New York City and Boston? The coast along Long Island Sound is beautiful, and as you go farther North it is much more rural. Thanks! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rent-a-racer
...Well a W126 300SDL can do 120mph, W124 300E can do 140mph and a Ducati SS 800 can do 158mph. I can see a Camaro doing 150... I'm thinking a rent car will have some GM V6 or other, not a firebreathing V8. My C300 would top 150mph if it weren't governed at 130mph. It came with h-rated rags which were removed and sold on Craigslist for $275 and it took awhile. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exaggerated speeds
...Mechanics Illustrated's Tom McCahill claimed something like 160mph in a 1963 Corvette split window and 150mph in the convertible. Did GM have a fleet of race prepped cars they lent out to magazine reviewers? I wouldn't think a Stingray could keep its front wheels on the ground at over 160mph, even if it did have the power to push it that fast... Keep in mind that there were three engines available and only the fuely had the power for that. RLE/former Corvette owner ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS
One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings... Piffle. Brake assist measures the speed of the brake application and decides if it's a panic stop and if so applies full braking. The instant the driver backs off the brakes revert to normal. MB did some kind of study and determined that few drivers apply the brakes hard enough in a panic situation. I am on my second BAS car and have felt it in action plenty of times. There are no down sides to it and my C300 will outbrake any of my former MBs. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Benzamino -- bids closing!
This one was discussed a while back and the consensus was that it is a death trap. Unless it was significantly strengthened. Like Wilton might say why take a perfectly good car and then cut it up to produce a monster? Not sure about the laws over there but in Ozzieland you would need an engineering certificate to register that, as the nominated configuration has changed. Also I believe this was advertised a while back for 17k? Hendrik who has a ute and a Merc but not in one unit On 13/05/12 06:17, Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3011610161.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another question about what it's like to live in various parts of the country ...
Greenwich has a New England feel with windy hilly roads and some of the nicest stone walls anywhere, but it's so not New England it's not even funny. Lived there for many years. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2012, at 8:25 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I-95 connects the major East Coast cities. The parts around the major cities will suffer the daily rush hour problems. The rural areas can see heavy traffic during holidays/peak travel seasons as many will travel from the Northeast to Florida along I-95. Part of I-95 in the Northeast are toll road though once you get south of Baltimore it is free. The NY/NJ/CT metro area locally known as the Tri State Area is the largest metro area in the U.S. You can have a traffic jam on the GW at 2AM. GW=George Washington Bridge, connecting NY/NJ. Connecticut is sometimes considered New England, but I would say only the parts of near MA or RI would be considered New England. Greenwich, Stamford, etc. would be NYC metro. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:40:03 -0600 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Well that explains it! What states has Craig lived in? For some reason I thought he lived/had lived in MA. As a small child, Minnesota, Montana, and Washington. Growing up, California (Los Angeles and Pasadena). Out on my own in the USAF, Colorado (Colorado Springs), Florida Panhandle, California (Sacramento). After the USAF, California (San Luis Obispo), Colorado (Colorado Springs), Texas (Austin), New Mexico (Los Alamos). I'm looking for a job and wondering what various parts of the country are like so I can decide if I want to apply to a job in a particular location. I live in Greenwich, CT for a short time, right near the NY state line. Yes, that is right near the NY state line! I had not realized that Connecticut has a rectangular snout poking down into New York. As you get farther from NY, the Wall Street influence goes away. That's nice to know. If I wanted to go to nearby Stamford I-95 was guaranteed to be backed up, so it was nice living within walking of downtown Greenwich. Is I-95 backed up along its entire length, or only near New York City and Boston? The coast along Long Island Sound is beautiful, and as you go farther North it is much more rural. Thanks! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Love bug season. Was: Exhaust fell off
Dan Penoff wrote: PAM just makes a mess. Don't bother. It's like misting Canola oil on the glass. And if it polymerizes, (canola won't do it as quickly as soybean oil does, but I bet it happens) then you get a hard residue on the glass, somewhere between glue and varnish. I bet it's what caused the stuck wiper incident reported earlier in the thread. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exaggerated speeds
relng...@aol.com wrote: Keep in mind that there were three engines available and only the fuely had the power for that. So a bone stock, untouched off the production line, fuel injected split window really would go over 160 mph? That's what Mechanix Illustrated reported, but it just seems unreal. It's faster than the 1984 Vette would go. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS
I think the system measures the speed at which the accelerator pedal is released and the time between the foot leaving the accelerator and touching the brakes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_assist http://4x4abc.com/4WD101/BAS_how.html However it also senses the speed at which the brake pedal is pushed because if you are using cruise control the foot is not on the go fast pedal. Also it has to be considered that you may see the deer too late, or your reactions are not what they used to be and having the car provide extra stopping power might be the difference between a near miss and a bad accident. Another factor is that some ladies do not have the same strength in their legs as men and will not be able to push as hard on the stop pedal. Basically I can't see how this is a bad system. Yes I can understand that if some stoner sits up your backside and has spongy brakes in his kombi, he will more than likely bash into the back of you but that is likely to happen BAS or not. And having unsecured things in a car cabin is a silly thing to do but we all do em, also I generally place them in the front footwell or on the rear seat. Hendrik who has to do his BAS On 13/05/12 10:25, relng...@aol.com wrote: One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings... Piffle. Brake assist measures the speed of the brake application and decides if it's a panic stop and if so applies full braking. The instant the driver backs off the brakes revert to normal. MB did some kind of study and determined that few drivers apply the brakes hard enough in a panic situation. I am on my second BAS car and have felt it in action plenty of times. There are no down sides to it and my C300 will outbrake any of my former MBs. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Deer BAS
Sorry forgot to post this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfFE3gF5iqIfeature=related H On 13/05/12 11:32, Hendrik Fay wrote: I think the system measures the speed at which the accelerator pedal is released and the time between the foot leaving the accelerator and touching the brakes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_assist http://4x4abc.com/4WD101/BAS_how.html However it also senses the speed at which the brake pedal is pushed because if you are using cruise control the foot is not on the go fast pedal. Also it has to be considered that you may see the deer too late, or your reactions are not what they used to be and having the car provide extra stopping power might be the difference between a near miss and a bad accident. Another factor is that some ladies do not have the same strength in their legs as men and will not be able to push as hard on the stop pedal. Basically I can't see how this is a bad system. Yes I can understand that if some stoner sits up your backside and has spongy brakes in his kombi, he will more than likely bash into the back of you but that is likely to happen BAS or not. And having unsecured things in a car cabin is a silly thing to do but we all do em, also I generally place them in the front footwell or on the rear seat. Hendrik who has to do his BAS On 13/05/12 10:25, relng...@aol.com wrote: One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings... Piffle. Brake assist measures the speed of the brake application and decides if it's a panic stop and if so applies full braking. The instant the driver backs off the brakes revert to normal. MB did some kind of study and determined that few drivers apply the brakes hard enough in a panic situation. I am on my second BAS car and have felt it in action plenty of times. There are no down sides to it and my C300 will outbrake any of my former MBs. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS
Perhaps on of the auto makers could design an air bag system to protect the car as well as the occupants. Like an airbag out the rear bumper to reduce the impact in rear end collisions. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: I think the system measures the speed at which the accelerator pedal is released and the time between the foot leaving the accelerator and touching the brakes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Brake_assisthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_assist http://4x4abc.com/4WD101/BAS_**how.htmlhttp://4x4abc.com/4WD101/BAS_how.html However it also senses the speed at which the brake pedal is pushed because if you are using cruise control the foot is not on the go fast pedal. Also it has to be considered that you may see the deer too late, or your reactions are not what they used to be and having the car provide extra stopping power might be the difference between a near miss and a bad accident. Another factor is that some ladies do not have the same strength in their legs as men and will not be able to push as hard on the stop pedal. Basically I can't see how this is a bad system. Yes I can understand that if some stoner sits up your backside and has spongy brakes in his kombi, he will more than likely bash into the back of you but that is likely to happen BAS or not. And having unsecured things in a car cabin is a silly thing to do but we all do em, also I generally place them in the front footwell or on the rear seat. Hendrik who has to do his BAS On 13/05/12 10:25, relng...@aol.com wrote: One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings... Piffle. Brake assist measures the speed of the brake application and decides if it's a panic stop and if so applies full braking. The instant the driver backs off the brakes revert to normal. MB did some kind of study and determined that few drivers apply the brakes hard enough in a panic situation. I am on my second BAS car and have felt it in action plenty of times. There are no down sides to it and my C300 will outbrake any of my former MBs. RLE __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speed
...I went through this with some of my classmates in high school, it doesn't matter what YOU THINK a reasonable speed is, there is a posted speed which is the law. Exceeding that posted speed by more than 50%.. So you are saying that in a posted 60mph zone, anything up to 90mph is OK, then. It is to laugh. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS
On May 12, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps on of the auto makers could design an air bag system to protect the car as well as the occupants. They sell more new cars, if the car is destroyed, but the occupants walk away unscathed. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS
Braking news... Hendrik and Roger agree on something... Loren? Rick Sent from my iPhone. On May 12, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I think the system measures the speed at which the accelerator pedal is released and the time between the foot leaving the accelerator and touching the brakes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_assist http://4x4abc.com/4WD101/BAS_how.html However it also senses the speed at which the brake pedal is pushed because if you are using cruise control the foot is not on the go fast pedal. Also it has to be considered that you may see the deer too late, or your reactions are not what they used to be and having the car provide extra stopping power might be the difference between a near miss and a bad accident. Another factor is that some ladies do not have the same strength in their legs as men and will not be able to push as hard on the stop pedal. Basically I can't see how this is a bad system. Yes I can understand that if some stoner sits up your backside and has spongy brakes in his kombi, he will more than likely bash into the back of you but that is likely to happen BAS or not. And having unsecured things in a car cabin is a silly thing to do but we all do em, also I generally place them in the front footwell or on the rear seat. Hendrik who has to do his BAS On 13/05/12 10:25, relng...@aol.com wrote: One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings... Piffle. Brake assist measures the speed of the brake application and decides if it's a panic stop and if so applies full braking. The instant the driver backs off the brakes revert to normal. MB did some kind of study and determined that few drivers apply the brakes hard enough in a panic situation. I am on my second BAS car and have felt it in action plenty of times. There are no down sides to it and my C300 will outbrake any of my former MBs. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] exaggerated speeds
On May 12, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: It's faster than the 1984 Vette would go. The 1984 Corvette was an underpowered turd. That was the first and last year for crossfire injection a dual throttle body injection system. '85 and up are MUCH better cars. Also, it was the first year of production for the C4(?) after a year hiatus of production and GM was not particularly kind to the first production run of ANY car. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS bags
Jah Volvo haz thez for the walking person on the road http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1074018_volvo-v40-gives-pedestrians-airbags-too-video On a more serious note the wuzzbag so and so's are at it again in the great nation of Oz, http://www.caradvice.com.au/100547/australians-face-bullbar-ban/ the nanny state has been busy bashing the smokers into a corner, drinking anything more than half a beer a week is deadly and now the kangaroos will have airbags to soften the blow. Hendrik who used to have a bull bar on the patrol but still drinks and smokes..cough cough On 13/05/12 11:36, Brian Toscano wrote: Perhaps on of the auto makers could design an air bag system to protect the car as well as the occupants. Like an airbag out the rear bumper to reduce the impact in rear end collisions. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS hybrid LorEn
I take it the braking news was intentional? I think Loren is too busy with the mid life crisis machine to worry about us and our views. If I forget, 52nd Happy B day Loren, I would make you a bday card but by the time Kaleb approves it you'll have to add another 1 to it. Anyway here is ze winner of the luxury hybrid battle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD8J9nceOQsfeature=youtu.be Hendrik whose E is not that silent On 13/05/12 12:12, Rick Knoble wrote: Braking news... Hendrik and Roger agree on something... Loren? Rick Sent from my iPhone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS
That's actually an excellent idea! It would save lives as well. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps on of the auto makers could design an air bag system to protect the car as well as the occupants. Like an airbag out the rear bumper to reduce the impact in rear end collisions. On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: I think the system measures the speed at which the accelerator pedal is released and the time between the foot leaving the accelerator and touching the brakes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Brake_assisthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_assist http://4x4abc.com/4WD101/BAS_**how.htmlhttp://4x4abc.com/4WD101/BAS_how.html However it also senses the speed at which the brake pedal is pushed because if you are using cruise control the foot is not on the go fast pedal. Also it has to be considered that you may see the deer too late, or your reactions are not what they used to be and having the car provide extra stopping power might be the difference between a near miss and a bad accident. Another factor is that some ladies do not have the same strength in their legs as men and will not be able to push as hard on the stop pedal. Basically I can't see how this is a bad system. Yes I can understand that if some stoner sits up your backside and has spongy brakes in his kombi, he will more than likely bash into the back of you but that is likely to happen BAS or not. And having unsecured things in a car cabin is a silly thing to do but we all do em, also I generally place them in the front footwell or on the rear seat. Hendrik who has to do his BAS On 13/05/12 10:25, relng...@aol.com wrote: One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings... Piffle. Brake assist measures the speed of the brake application and decides if it's a panic stop and if so applies full braking. The instant the driver backs off the brakes revert to normal. MB did some kind of study and determined that few drivers apply the brakes hard enough in a panic situation. I am on my second BAS car and have felt it in action plenty of times. There are no down sides to it and my C300 will outbrake any of my former MBs. RLE __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS
A friend of mine used to complain that ABS was bullshit because he could control the brakes better than any computer could. Last I heard he was in jail for rear ending a cop while intoxicated (not the cop). The more a car does on it's own the better off we all are in my opinion. -Dave Walton On May 12, 2012, at 8:55 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings... Piffle. Brake assist measures the speed of the brake application and decides if it's a panic stop and if so applies full braking. The instant the driver backs off the brakes revert to normal. MB did some kind of study and determined that few drivers apply the brakes hard enough in a panic situation. I am on my second BAS car and have felt it in action plenty of times. There are no down sides to it and my C300 will outbrake any of my former MBs. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 78, Issue 66
...So a bone stock, untouched off the production line, fuel injected split window really would go over 160 mph? That's what Mechanix Illustrated reported, but it just seems unreal. It's faster than the 1984 Vette would go... Actually, I don't know. I'm just saying that if ONE of them could achieve that speed, it would have to be the 360hp (SAE) fuel injected version. My 1963 300hp 327 Sting Ray convertible was all done at about 130mph. Base engine was 250hp. What is so special about a 1984 model? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bottom bags
...Perhaps on of the auto makers could design an air bag system to protect the car as well as the occupants. Like an airbag out the rear bumper to reduce the impact in rear end collisions... You think this is far-fetched, don't you? MB has shown an in-development S-Class with a big bag under the engine that presses against the pavement, much like dragging your foot when on your coaster wagon. There is a limit, seems to me. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS
Except shift gears. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Dave Walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: A friend of mine used to complain that ABS was bullshit because he could control the brakes better than any computer could. Last I heard he was in jail for rear ending a cop while intoxicated (not the cop). The more a car does on it's own the better off we all are in my opinion. -Dave Walton On May 12, 2012, at 8:55 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings... Piffle. Brake assist measures the speed of the brake application and decides if it's a panic stop and if so applies full braking. The instant the driver backs off the brakes revert to normal. MB did some kind of study and determined that few drivers apply the brakes hard enough in a panic situation. I am on my second BAS car and have felt it in action plenty of times. There are no down sides to it and my C300 will outbrake any of my former MBs. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS hybrid LorEn
THe singing in that video requires this follow-up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORGaACYbAk0feature=related On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: I take it the braking news was intentional? I think Loren is too busy with the mid life crisis machine to worry about us and our views. If I forget, 52nd Happy B day Loren, I would make you a bday card but by the time Kaleb approves it you'll have to add another 1 to it. Anyway here is ze winner of the luxury hybrid battle http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=LD8J9nceOQsfeature=youtu.behttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD8J9nceOQsfeature=youtu.be Hendrik whose E is not that silent On 13/05/12 12:12, Rick Knoble wrote: Braking news... Hendrik and Roger agree on something... Loren? Rick Sent from my iPhone. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] early Corvettes
..The 1984 Corvette was an underpowered turd. That was the first and last year for crossfire injection a dual throttle body injection system. '85 and up are MUCH better cars. Also, it was the first year of production for the C4(?) after a year hiatus of production and GM was not particularly kind to the first production run of ANY car... I thought that might be the one. GM built a lot of mediocre Corvettes which they are still living down. Even today's models still draw complaints about their low rent interiors, not commensurate with the price. My Sting Ray, being the first year, had shortcomings. Little Chevy 2 drum brakes which heated up and faded away after a lap or two at the track. Also, there was a relief valve on the oil pump that would open and oil pressure would disappear so you'd have to stop and let the engine cool a bit. Also, the 427s (porcupine heads, was it?) that broke rocker arms regularly. My Stingray on Michelin SDS tires was a hell of an autocross car, at the time. And the cowl shake was VERY noticeable so I kept the hardtop on most of the time to tie the front and rear ends together. After two years I gave up and went back to Porsche, namely a 356SC Coupe. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 78, Issue 66
relng...@aol.com wrote: ...So a bone stock, untouched off the production line, fuel injected split window really would go over 160 mph? That's what Mechanix Illustrated reported, but it just seems unreal. It's faster than the 1984 Vette would go... Actually, I don't know. I'm just saying that if ONE of them could achieve that speed, it would have to be the 360hp (SAE) fuel injected version. My 1963 300hp 327 Sting Ray convertible was all done at about 130mph. Base engine was 250hp. What is so special about a 1984 model? Nothing special about it, just the first one since emissions controls that I saw mention in the press that it would do 150. And C4s were a lot more aerodynamic than C2s, weren't they? BTW, I saw 9 Vettes in a row go by on M-66 this afternoon in the rain. One C4, the rest much newer. Must have been a club thing. Then when I turned off M-66, I noticed the car behind me was a 2wd 911. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAS hybrid LorEn
I take it the braking news was intentional? Yup. A play on words, if you will. If I forget, 52nd Happy B day Loren I'm 53, no wonder I'm becoming more of a curmudgeon. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
