Re: [MBZ] Nawlin's

[Peter Hertzing]

Funny this thread is up now.  I'm sitting at the Carbondale Amtrak station 
waiting in the city of new Orleans which is currently running an hour behind.  

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On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Now you are bringing out the Tom Sawyers!
> 
> 
> I would love to do that!  Wanna finance the trip?
> 
> I love re-reading Life on the MIssissippi.
> 
> 
> 
>> Are you going to float down on old man river?
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> '95 E300, '87 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Natticutt

[Fmiser]

> > > Jim quoted some person but I'm to lazy to try to figure out who:
> > >
> > > Now I have 2 threads, one grouped by upper case Netiquette
> > > and one with lowercase netiquette.  Nice work.

> > Jim Cathey writes:
> >
> > Now you have another!  :-)

> Allan Streib wrote:
> 
> Unless you have an email client that's smart enough to keep
> threads together when the subject changes:
> 
> 20:05  relng...@aol.com 0.5k  Re: [MBZ] netiquette
> 20:15  Brian Toscano0.9k  
> 20:53  Jim Cathey   0.4k  [MBZ]

That only works if the other guy's client doesn't muck up the
"Reference" and "In-Reply-To" headers.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Nawlin's

[Dieselhead]

Now you are bringing out the Tom Sawyers!


I would love to do that!  Wanna finance the trip?

I love re-reading Life on the MIssissippi.




Are you going to float down on old man river?


--
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Re: [MBZ] Nawlin's

[Rich Thomas]

You get outside about a 6 block square around Bourbon St and you are 
taking a huge risk.  We thought Rita might provide the rinse cycle after 
Katrina, but alas it was not to be.


Although I understand that there was this "club" out of town a little 
ways, in an area that did not see a lot of palefaces, that had some 
interesting action going on through the night...  not that I could 
attest to that, nosiree...


--R

On 6/18/12 11:11 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

Are you going to float down on old man river?

Mountain Man  wrote:


Just mulling the concept in my mind...
Maybe renting a car one way back to ChiTown is less than train or
plane?



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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? now school and stuff

[Rich Thomas]

The road heads south, almost dead straight, for 16mi from the "main" 
road.  Once you cross a railroad track along the main road, you are in 
the woods, with a tree canopy over the road for maybe 10mi or so.  A few 
houses along the road, coupla small black churches (saw the preacher 
arrive at one, on the way back only 2 cars there) but every mile or two 
will be a large brick pillared gate of some sort with a discrete sign, 
this plantation, that plantation, etc. and a road leading back down into 
the woods.  One of them had a large gate house, maybe 2000ft2, then the 
road goes on back.   Some have no signs but the pillars and gates.  
Along about mile 10 is a large bridge over a tributary of the Ashepoo 
river, and along in there are what appeared to be old rice fields, some 
had water in them (state law prohibits messing with the flood gates that 
let water in and out so as to provide habitat for the waterfowl, etc.).  
On past there a few miles the houses start to appear, toward the end of 
the road which ended at the river.  Some sorta ratty houses on pilings, 
a coupla shrimpers at a boat dock, a little store for the marina, and 
that was about it.


We saw maybe 10 cars in our 16mi out/16mi back, mostly white folks.  
These properties are owned by wealthy people, mostly kept in 
conservation, some go back 300yr or more if they survived the Late 
Unpleasantness.  Aside from the road being fairly nice, I am guessing 
there is not a lot of difference in what is there now v. what was there 
a coupla hundred years ago when Carolina Gold rice and Sea Islands 
cotton ruled the planet.


Bennett's Point Rd runs south from here 32.736462,-80.574961


--R

On 6/18/12 8:09 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

--R wrote:

I had a few words with the old gent, me speaking my
version of English, and him in his version, he was nicely warning us about
the bad people around there.  Within a minute or so we had a fairly complete
understanding of the local social situation.  He went on down by the road to
wait for his ride to church, we did 34miles out to the end of the road,
through old plantations, rice fields, marsh, and the Ashepoo River.  It is a
whole nuther world.

Be polite, now... but I am interested in greater detail about the
impression of old plantations, etc. and how the local social situation
on your ride impressed you.  I live in an insular place also.  While
our town has the largest number of south of the border folk of any
city in the state - all great people, btw - we don't see these
individuals much.  Just help a midwestern looser out... puleeez -
thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Nawlin's

[Max Dillon]

Are you going to float down on old man river?

Mountain Man  wrote:

>Just mulling the concept in my mind...
>Maybe renting a car one way back to ChiTown is less than train or
>plane?
>

-- 
Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Gerry Archer]

I thought they were burple. Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk!
Gerry

From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com>

Easy!  Red, as in redneck cups.



On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:20:04 -0400 "Rusty Cullens" 
wrote:

Are differentials different?



Yes, just as integrals are intelligent.
Craig


If teacups are white, what color are hiccups?
Gerry


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[MBZ] New neighbor?

[Dieselhead]

Saw a bronze color 200D drive by this afternoon on my 1 1/2 block 
long street.  Thought first it was a 220Sb, but then I looked closer 
at the taillights and saw it was a 110, not a 111.  VERY UNUSUAL! 
not a standard color.  I was near a running skidloader, but after I 
pondered for a sec, I did remember hearing it go by, so it had to be 
a Diesel.  A 220Sb, I would not have heard over the skidloader.


This evening, I drove around and found it parked on an intersecting 
street, a couple blocks away.  It has Oregon plates on it.  Hopefully 
the owner appreciates it and is not using it for a cheap throwaway 
"greasecar."


Maybe tomorrow night I can walk over and see if it is a visitor or a 
new neighbor.  A good 200D is getting scarce as hens teeth.


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Dieselhead]

Easy!  Red, as in redneck cups.



On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:20:04 -0400 "Rusty Cullens" 
wrote:

Are differentials different?



Yes, just as integrals are intelligent.
Craig


If teacups are white, what color are hiccups?
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Far out OT: Voyager

[Rick Knoble]

On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:28 PM, "Rich Thomas" 
 wrote:

> The Voyager 1 spacecraft, launched 34 years ago, is about to
>  cross into the great unknown --- currently poised on the
>  edge of interstellar space, it will soon leave our solar
>  system forever.  This song, "Dark Was the Night, Cold Was
>  the Ground" by Blind Willie Johnson is included on the
>  Voyager Golden Record as an expression of human loneliness,


Reminds me of a SNL skit back in the day, where scientists reported they got a 
message from outer space. "Send more Chuck Berry". 
Season 3 Episode 18. Isn't the Internet wonderful?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Gerry Archer]

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:20:04 -0400 "Rusty Cullens" 
wrote:

Are differentials different?



Yes, just as integrals are intelligent.
Craig


If teacups are white, what color are hiccups?
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Natticutt

[Allan Streib]

Jim Cathey  writes:

>> Now I have 2 threads, one grouped by upper case Netiquette and one with
>> lowercase netiquette.  Nice work.
>
> Now you have another!  :-)

Unless you have an email client that's smart enough to keep threads
together when the subject changes:

20:05  relng...@aol.com 0.5k  Re: [MBZ] netiquette
20:15  Brian Toscano0.9k  
20:53  Jim Cathey   0.4k  [MBZ] Natticutt


Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Nawlin's

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I thought you were broke?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Just mulling the concept in my mind...
> Maybe renting a car one way back to ChiTown is less than train or plane?
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[MBZ] Natticutt

[Jim Cathey]

Now I have 2 threads, one grouped by upper case Netiquette and one with
lowercase netiquette.  Nice work.


Now you have another!  :-)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Nawlin's

[Allan Streib]

Dan Penoff  writes:

> It has been my experience with rental cars that one way, unless they
> need cars at the destination, is usually cost prohibitive.

That may be, I've only done one way from airport to airport, which
doesn't seem to be penalized.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Nawlin's

[Dan Penoff]

It has been my experience with rental cars that one way, unless they need cars 
at the destination, is usually cost prohibitive.

Dan

On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Just mulling the concept in my mind...
> Maybe renting a car one way back to ChiTown is less than train or plane?
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Re: [MBZ] Nawlin's

[Russ Williams]

Not sure. But I have a buddy that travels Amtrac from Hammond.La to 
Memphis about every 3 weeks to visit his sick mother. He says it cheaper 
than driving and han not had any problems with

Amtrac.
How long are you in Nawilns for? I'm only 45 min up I 10 from there.

Russ W.
On 6/18/2012 18:49, Mountain Man wrote:

Just mulling the concept in my mind...
Maybe renting a car one way back to ChiTown is less than train or plane?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Netiquette v3.6

[Hendrik & Fay]

You're not getting it, by chopping and changing you make it hard not to 
make it look like you wrote everything in a post, however the suggestion 
to not reply to your posts might be the best, just in case I cause you 
further offence.


Not gonna bother to sign this as it may well get cut out anyway

On 19/06/12 09:33, relng...@aol.com wrote:

I don't mind taking the heat for my own s***, often justified, but just not
somebody else's wild ideas.

RLE





in response to my comment:

...Fair enough but don't get the poo poos when someone replies to one of
your cut up replies and heavens forbid they mat think that you wrote all
of the stuff that I replied to, BTW I wrote the first part down there,
just in case anybody thinks that Jim wrote it



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Re: [MBZ] netiquette

[Brian Toscano]

Now I have 2 threads, one grouped by upper case Netiquette and one with
lowercase netiquette.  Nice work.


On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 6:05 PM,  wrote:

> > .OMG you are so gonna cop it from Roger, your best bet is to
> > disconnect
> > the internet for a month and hide in the fallout shelter...
> >
> Not gonna happen. He and I are often on the same page.
>
> RLE
> >
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[MBZ] OT musical evolution

[Hendrik & Fay]

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21946-how-to-evolve-your-own-musical-melodies.html

Hendrik
who had a bit of a go at rating the loops

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? now school and stuff

[Mountain Man]

--R wrote:
> I had a few words with the old gent, me speaking my
> version of English, and him in his version, he was nicely warning us about
> the bad people around there.  Within a minute or so we had a fairly complete
> understanding of the local social situation.  He went on down by the road to
> wait for his ride to church, we did 34miles out to the end of the road,
> through old plantations, rice fields, marsh, and the Ashepoo River.  It is a
> whole nuther world.

Be polite, now... but I am interested in greater detail about the
impression of old plantations, etc. and how the local social situation
on your ride impressed you.  I live in an insular place also.  While
our town has the largest number of south of the border folk of any
city in the state - all great people, btw - we don't see these
individuals much.  Just help a midwestern looser out... puleeez -
thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] netiquette

[RELNGSON]

> .OMG you are so gonna cop it from Roger, your best bet is to 
> disconnect
> the internet for a month and hide in the fallout shelter...
> 
Not gonna happen. He and I are often on the same page.

RLE
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Nawlin's

[Allan Streib]

Mountain Man  writes:

> Just mulling the concept in my mind...
> Maybe renting a car one way back to ChiTown is less than train or
> plane?

Maybe not, but you avoid the TSA anal exam.  Forget Amtrak, you'll be
luck if your train only breaks down once.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Netiquette

[RELNGSON]

> ...Fair enough but don't get the poo poos when someone replies to one of
> your cut up replies and heavens forbid they mat think that you wrote all
> of the stuff that I replied to, BTW I wrote the first part down there,
> just in case anybody thinks that Jim wrote it
> 
I don't mind taking the heat for my own s***, often justified, but just not 
somebody else's wild ideas.

RLE
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Blocking

[Mountain Man]

Grant wrote:
> Ask your therapist... I'm sure she will guide you to an understanding in
> the next 39 sessions.  Until then, don't forget to take your meds on time.

Someone suggested this is good tact for all relational communication.
Perhaps it is necessary reading for mercedes...
http://drkellyflanagan.com/2012/03/02/marriage-is-for-losers/

...for all you loosers...
mao

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[MBZ] Nawlin's

[Mountain Man]

Just mulling the concept in my mind...
Maybe renting a car one way back to ChiTown is less than train or plane?

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Re: [MBZ] Used w115 parts

[Max Dillon]

If Kent offers to detail your car, recommend you decline.

-Max

clay monroe  wrote:

  There will be a swap meet up in Bellingham, WA late August. 
>Kent Bergsma is hosting.  You should be able to find what you need
>there.  I am taking my stuff up there
>
>clay
>
-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel-electric hybrid wins LeMans

[Allan Streib]

Audi has had diesels in the Le Mans race for at least few years now I
think. They usually do very well.

Rich Thomas  writes:

> http://news.yahoo.com/audi-e-tron-first-hybrid-win-le-mans-174003511.html
>
> I think Mercedes had some engines in the race.  Audi is making some
> very cool advances with diesels.
>
> --R

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[MBZ] Diesel-electric hybrid wins LeMans

[Rich Thomas]

http://news.yahoo.com/audi-e-tron-first-hybrid-win-le-mans-174003511.html

I think Mercedes had some engines in the race.  Audi is making some very 
cool advances with diesels.


--R

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[MBZ] Far out OT: Voyager

[Rich Thomas]

   The Voyager 1 spacecraft, launched 34 years ago, is about to
   cross into the great unknown --- currently poised on the
   edge of interstellar space, it will soon leave our solar
   system forever.  This song, "Dark Was the Night, Cold Was
   the Ground" by Blind Willie Johnson is included on the
   Voyager Golden Record as an expression of human loneliness,
   and it's a fitting soundtrack for Voyager on this endless,
   solitary journey.

   This is how da real blues is done, y'all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BNj2BXW852g

--R

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Re: [MBZ] jackstands

[Allan Streib]

> Speaking of safety, how safe are those $2000 lifts you can install in
> your own garage in comparison to the 6 ton jackstands?  What about the
> pricey scissor jacks - how safe are those?  This is assumng the
> operator will not take unreasonable or unnecessary risks.

How much is your life worth?  You get what you pay for.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? now school and stuff

[andrew strasfogel]

Yeah, that sounds pretty cool.

On 6/18/12, Rich Thomas  wrote:
> Well it goes like this...  A tradition is that when a student starts
> medical school, they get a short white jacket ("coat") to wear, which
> designates them as doc wannabe (it makes it easy for everyone to
> recognize on whom to dump scut).  That is called the "white coat
> ceremony."  When they graduate medical school, they get to wear the long
> coat which designates a real doc.
>
> In this case, given his mama is a doc, she got to be the one who put the
> coat on him, hence, to "white coat" him.  There were a lot of doc
> parents who got to do that, was kinda interesting.  A few women docs but
> not too many.  I think there were a couple of couples too, and one
> grandfather.  The class was evenly split M/F which will make it look a
> lot different in maybe 30 years or so, or sooner maybe.
>
> Oh, and that is why I put it in "quotes" given I was creating a term
> there through an improper construct.
>
> You need to get out into the real world more!  Which brings up another
> anecdote -- yesterday my wife and I went cycling out in the country
> (like, way out in the country).  We parked at a little gas
> station/general store to ride out further out into the country.  Another
> couple joined us.  As we were getting ready an old black man came
> walking across the parking lot, dressed in his church-goin suit.  As he
> walked by he spoke to the other couple.  Now, I found it interesting
> that I could mostly understand him, given he was speaking very very deep
> Gullah.  What he said was (translating), "You had better lock your
> truck."  It came out sounding to them sorta like "yabetchocolateutt."
> After repeating himself to them 3 times, and finally speaking in
> something much closer to English, they got it.   They live down the road
> from us, in the insular gated community.  I told her after, when she was
> remarking on his manner of speech, that she needed to get out more and
> mingle with the natives.  I don't think she liked that.  OBTW she is
> from Greenwich, CT, which is probably about as white as where they now
> live.  I had a few words with the old gent, me speaking my version of
> English, and him in his version, he was nicely warning us about the bad
> people around there.  Within a minute or so we had a fairly complete
> understanding of the local social situation.  He went on down by the
> road to wait for his ride to church, we did 34miles out to the end of
> the road, through old plantations, rice fields, marsh, and the Ashepoo
> River.  It is a whole nuther world.
>
> --R
>
> On 6/18/12 3:01 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
>> I've never come across the phrase "white coat" used as a verb, and I
>> can't discern the meaning even in the vivid context you provided.
>> Chalk it up to yankee insularity...
>>
>> On 6/16/12, Rich Thomas  wrote:
>>> >  My wife decided to go to med school when she was 36? (or so), two
>>> > kids,
>>> >  me working and traveling internationally.  It somehow worked out but
>>> > it
>>> >  was interesting times.  She had wanted to do med school after college
>>> >  but at that time a lot of guys were coming back from VN and wanted to
>>> > be
>>> >  docs, they had experience with battlefield stuff.  And women were not
>>> >  particularly welcome then.  When my son started med school last
>>> > summer
>>> >  she got to "white coat" him in the opening ceremonies which was nice.
>>> >
>>> >  --R
>>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Used w115 parts

[clay monroe]

Why you no need last fall?!?

Gump was complete and ready for stripping.  I got most of it out the door.  I 
have a few other parts on the shelf, not much in the way of trim.  There will 
be a swap meet up in Bellingham, WA late August.  Kent Bergsma is hosting.  You 
should be able to find what you need there.  I am taking my stuff up there

clay


On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Joe Sasser wrote:

> Anybody know of a source for used w115 parts (ext/int)? I contacted Kaleb 
> last week, but no response.
> 
> Found plenty in SoCal, but Geez Louise! Their price for some trim was higher 
> than getting brand new from the Classic Center!
> 
> Thanks
> 
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[MBZ] Brake Dancing

[clay monroe]

PPI for Frosch showed brake lines were end of life and there was uneven wear on 
driver side rear.  Fronts had life, rears were needing attention.

Saturday, BiL and I put her up on the rack and tackled two jobs.  Brakes were 
pretty easy.  I had ordered complete brake set with rotors and all from Rusty 
for Gump.  Turns out I had the bulk of parts still on the shelf, needing only 
new rotors and pads up front.  Based on PPI, I did not get rotors, just pads.  
Front lines and pads were easy and went on fast.  Rears were less good.

Looks like I need to get all fresh pins for the ATE calipers.  I have new 
anti-rattle springs that did not need to go on, so they will wait until the 
next time.  Rear passenger caliper pins were missing the retaining neck spring. 
 Also all the bolt retainer clips were shot all around.  We fashioned retainers 
for the pins by fabbing metal covers.

Driver side caliper was bad.  Outside pad had jammed and the inner pad was worn 
to the metal.  Caliper had over extended trying to compensate for the non 
moving pad.  The rotor has small damage to the inner race, but the rest is all 
good.  Should be able to run it until next pad change.  Got the fresh pads in 
and caliper working.  Ran it 50 miles and let it sit over night.  No leaks.

Bleeding was a PITA.  Tried to bleed the thing to death, but all we got was 
air.  We had loaded the reservoir with fluid, but the rear chamber decided to 
not fill.  Did not want to overfill, but turns out you need to overfill to get 
the fluid to spill over into the rear.  Once we got the front lines working, we 
went back to the rears.  Huge burp and spooged out nasty black glop then lots 
of clean.  Bleed, drive and bleed again.  Stops on a dime now.

Next job was to fix up the reflectors from the w116 euro to take the adjustment 
tabs for a w107.  Drill out the rivets for the 116 and yank, then the same on 
the 107 and rivet them on to the shiny new reflectors.  Have to remove the 
center bulb holder and make adjustment to allow the daytime lights to fit.  107 
is at 6 o'clock, 116 is at 5 o'clock.  Three tiny pin point retaining marks had 
to get dimpled out and file slot for the center retainer.I think I will 
replace all bulbs with LED.  Should reduce the load on the system.


clay 


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1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? now school and stuff

[Rich Thomas]

Well it goes like this...  A tradition is that when a student starts 
medical school, they get a short white jacket ("coat") to wear, which 
designates them as doc wannabe (it makes it easy for everyone to 
recognize on whom to dump scut).  That is called the "white coat 
ceremony."  When they graduate medical school, they get to wear the long 
coat which designates a real doc.


In this case, given his mama is a doc, she got to be the one who put the 
coat on him, hence, to "white coat" him.  There were a lot of doc 
parents who got to do that, was kinda interesting.  A few women docs but 
not too many.  I think there were a couple of couples too, and one 
grandfather.  The class was evenly split M/F which will make it look a 
lot different in maybe 30 years or so, or sooner maybe.


Oh, and that is why I put it in "quotes" given I was creating a term 
there through an improper construct.


You need to get out into the real world more!  Which brings up another 
anecdote -- yesterday my wife and I went cycling out in the country 
(like, way out in the country).  We parked at a little gas 
station/general store to ride out further out into the country.  Another 
couple joined us.  As we were getting ready an old black man came 
walking across the parking lot, dressed in his church-goin suit.  As he 
walked by he spoke to the other couple.  Now, I found it interesting 
that I could mostly understand him, given he was speaking very very deep 
Gullah.  What he said was (translating), "You had better lock your 
truck."  It came out sounding to them sorta like "yabetchocolateutt."  
After repeating himself to them 3 times, and finally speaking in 
something much closer to English, they got it.   They live down the road 
from us, in the insular gated community.  I told her after, when she was 
remarking on his manner of speech, that she needed to get out more and 
mingle with the natives.  I don't think she liked that.  OBTW she is 
from Greenwich, CT, which is probably about as white as where they now 
live.  I had a few words with the old gent, me speaking my version of 
English, and him in his version, he was nicely warning us about the bad 
people around there.  Within a minute or so we had a fairly complete 
understanding of the local social situation.  He went on down by the 
road to wait for his ride to church, we did 34miles out to the end of 
the road, through old plantations, rice fields, marsh, and the Ashepoo 
River.  It is a whole nuther world.


--R

On 6/18/12 3:01 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

I've never come across the phrase "white coat" used as a verb, and I
can't discern the meaning even in the vivid context you provided.
Chalk it up to yankee insularity...

On 6/16/12, Rich Thomas  wrote:

>  My wife decided to go to med school when she was 36? (or so), two kids,
>  me working and traveling internationally.  It somehow worked out but it
>  was interesting times.  She had wanted to do med school after college
>  but at that time a lot of guys were coming back from VN and wanted to be
>  docs, they had experience with battlefield stuff.  And women were not
>  particularly welcome then.  When my son started med school last summer
>  she got to "white coat" him in the opening ceremonies which was nice.
>
>  --R
>


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[andrew strasfogel]

Better than you overhearing someone else talking about her rear end.. ;)

On 6/18/12, Dave Walton  wrote:
> Reminds me of the time my wife overheard me talking about her rear end.
>
> -Dave Walton
>
> On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:20 AM, "Rusty Cullens"  wrote:
>
>> Are differentials different?
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
>> On Behalf Of WILTON
>> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 8:13 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
>>
>> The difference is in the differentials.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mountain Man" 
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 8:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
>>
>>
>>> --R wrote:
 You know we are talking about calculus differentials, not car
 differentials,
 right?
>>>
>>> What's the difference?
>>> mao
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Re: [MBZ] A lovely 280TE piece of junk

[andrew strasfogel]

On 6/18/12, Rich Thomas  wrote:
> That car was defecated
>
> --R
>
> On 6/18/12 7:58 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:
>> a blue slip is for boys, which means the car will be defected for life.
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Re: [MBZ] poos what do you think about these detailing techniques?

[andrew strasfogel]

I would argue that there's is a plethora of automotive cleaning
products because there are countless numbers of gullible people
willing to try anything.  I know this because I look in the mirror
every day.


On 6/18/12, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> Yep I agree
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
>
>> I've seen a few of this guys videos and even bought his kits for
>> rebuilding
>> injectors.  I generally had a favorable impression of him before seeing
>> this detailing video.  I agree with Dan here... they make loads of
>> automotive paint restoration products for a reason.  Looking to save a
>> few
>> bucks and risk damage to something as expensive and sensitive as paint
>> seems very foolish to me.
>>
>> And as for the forum god... this is pretty common... just look around
>> these
>> lists.  Just because a forum promotes someone as god, it doesn't mean
>> they're always right.  Dr. BOOTH was an EXAMPLE of this, and its very
>> common with parts suppliers as well.
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well the main part I am interested in is the use of soft scrub and bon
>>> ami
>>> on the paint. This is a guy who on many of the forums they think this
>>> guy
>>> is god.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] jackstands

[andrew strasfogel]

Speaking of safety, how safe are those $2000 lifts you can install in
your own garage in comparison to the 6 ton jackstands?  What about the
pricey scissor jacks - how safe are those?  This is assumng the
operator will not take unreasonable or unnecessary risks.

On 6/17/12, Brian Toscano  wrote:
> Unrelated, the neatest jack I've seen is the air bag type of jack that they
> use in heavy equipment shops...
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Brian Toscano
> wrote:
>
>> Its just a matter of using the right tool for the job.  On my Jeep there
>> is no room for the jack if I slip 6 ton jacks under the axle.  On a
>> Mercedes with lift points on the side, it wouldn't be much of an issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Rich Thomas <
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I tend to think of things like that as nokill, but that's just my
>>> engineering edumacation telling me to build in some safety margin.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/17/12 2:47 PM, Brian Toscano wrote:
>>>
 Personally I
 think 6 ton jackstands are overkill

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Dave Walton]

Reminds me of the time my wife overheard me talking about her rear end. 

-Dave Walton

On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:20 AM, "Rusty Cullens"  wrote:

> Are differentials different?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of WILTON
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 8:13 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> 
> The difference is in the differentials.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mountain Man" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
> 
> 
>> --R wrote:
>>> You know we are talking about calculus differentials, not car 
>>> differentials,
>>> right?
>> 
>> What's the difference?
>> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

[Craig]

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 05:27:55 -0400 John Reames 
wrote:

> I don't have a pic of the alternator (that I can find), but the nut was
> still on the shaft, and it looked to be holding a sleeve...
> 
> But here's a pic of the pulley (after it played "stone")
>
> <http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20120618/b4268bff/attachment.jpeg>

Yes, that's something different, all right. It even looks like it will
take both a serpentine belt and an ordinary v-belt.


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there? now school and stuff

[andrew strasfogel]

I've never come across the phrase "white coat" used as a verb, and I
can't discern the meaning even in the vivid context you provided.
Chalk it up to yankee insularity...

On 6/16/12, Rich Thomas  wrote:
> My wife decided to go to med school when she was 36? (or so), two kids,
> me working and traveling internationally.  It somehow worked out but it
> was interesting times.  She had wanted to do med school after college
> but at that time a lot of guys were coming back from VN and wanted to be
> docs, they had experience with battlefield stuff.  And women were not
> particularly welcome then.  When my son started med school last summer
> she got to "white coat" him in the opening ceremonies which was nice.
>
> --R
>
> On 6/16/12 4:05 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> I just didn't want to take on the student loan responsibilities at my age.
>>  Granted, it's not difficult to find funding if you're at a research
>> university like I was, but having student loans that start coming due when
>> I was approaching my late 50s was not something I wanted to deal with.
>>
>> If you ask me, being a "non-traditional" student was a lot easier than
>> when I was in my late teens/early 20s.  Had I realized how much easier
>> college was as an adult I would have gone back sooner.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
>>
 I guess it's never too late to go to college

 Sent from my iPhone
>>> When I was an undergrad, there were people in their 70s  working on a
>>> BS.
>>>
>>> As a grad student, there was one of Rickover's guys, retired Navy
>>> Captain, in his 60s working on a PhuD.  Another guy was in his 60s. He
>>> got his PhuD too.
>>>
>>> SWMBO finished her Master's at 53, after a 30 year hiatus.  She was
>>> harassed out back then.  There never was a successful female Master's
>>> student in that department until many years later.
>>>
>>> I got my PhuD at 45.
>>>
>>> I don't have as much respect for 20-something PhuDs because most have no
>>> practical experience.
>>>
>>> SWMBO and D-I-L are conspiring to have my son's major professor sent to
>>> Germany for his graduation.  There is a little-known rule in the system
>>> that if the Major Professor can't hood the graduate, that the graduate
>>> can be hooded by a PhuD of their choice.  SWMBO found out a Prof she knew
>>> got to hood his daughter at some univ out east because the Major
>>> Professor was unable to.  So SWMBO wants me to be able to hood my son
>>> when he walks across the stage.
>>>
>>> Dieselhead
>>> BS 79
>>> MS 95
>>> PhD 98
>>>
>>> A total of Eight degrees in the family from Awa State.
>>> A total of 9 degrees in the family from all institutions.
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Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

[Randy Bennell]

Remember the days when things did not change very often?
There were many years back in the 50's and 60' s where parts were 
reasonably standard for a long while. The basic small block chevy engine 
did not change much for a good many years until they got into smog 
control and then fuel injection. Even the early injected models were 
throttle body and not a whole lot different than their previous models. 
Tires changed a bit when they went from bias to radial but sizes did not 
change much for a long while.
Now it seems like every year the tires get bigger. Pretty soon we will 
all be running around on 22's. Lord help us.


Randy

On 17/06/2012 8:24 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

On Jun 17, 2012, at 6:01 PM, "Max Dillon"  wrote:


Time for new tires now, bewildering array of choices.


You need a 123 then. That would limit you to like, two choices of tire. Or buy a Ford 
Ranger with 14's. That would limit you to "I don't show a tire in that size".

Rick
Who is being a bit facetious




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Re: [MBZ] Eating belts

[John Reames]

I don't have a pic of the alternator (that I can find), but the nut was still 
on the shaft, and it looked to be holding a sleeve...

But here's a pic of the pulley (after it played "stone")

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On Jun 17, 2012, at 22:15, John Reames  wrote:

> It's more like a ratcheting sort of clutch, but it sure as heck wasn't a 
> solid pulley.
> 
> --
> John W Reames
> jream...@verizon.net
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> 
> On Jun 16, 2012, at 22:15, Craig  wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:52:12 -0400 John Reames 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The alternator has a clutch in the pulley. I'd think that if it were
>>> the alternator pulley going bad it would quickly come apart...
>>> 
>>> I've had one come apart; the pulley was the stone, the belt the sling,
>>> and the radiator played the part of Goliath.
>> 
>> I know the A/C compressor has a clutch in the pulley, so the compressor
>> can be cycled. I've never seen an alternator with a clutch in the pulley.
>> The regulation for an alternator is usually done electronically.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 201 brake rotors

[Curt Raymond]

Pretty much, I was just curious if replacing the rotors without doing the 
bearings was something that could/should be done.

About 4 weeks after the driver's side wheel bearing grenaded the passenger side 
died at a stop which I thought was an odd place for that to happen. That was 
during the Ice Storm of 2008 and we were driving the 190D because we couldn't 
get gas to drive the Ranger (no power). I managed to find a parts store open, 
our local Car Quest is a remarkable place, and they had the bearings and seal 
so we were back on the road the next day.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:17:15 -0600
From: Brian Toscano 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 brake rotors
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Sounds like you had your mind made up before you posted the question.


On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I think I did one side but not the other, I don't remember for sure. I
> know I did one side.
>
> With my '85 190D I had a wheel bearing let go at about 45mph, I really
> don't want to ever go through that again. There was no warning at all, one
> minute everything was fine, next minute there was no outer bearing
> anymore...
>
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[WILTON]

Yes, not all same.  Different from lotsa other stuff and from each other.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rusty Cullens" 

To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?



Are differentials different?


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The difference is in the differentials.

Wilton

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--R wrote:

You know we are talking about calculus differentials, not car
differentials,
right?


What's the difference?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Craig]

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 10:20:04 -0400 "Rusty Cullens" 
wrote:

> Are differentials different?

Yes, just as integrals are intelligent.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?

[Rusty Cullens]

Are differentials different?


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On Behalf Of WILTON
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The difference is in the differentials.

Wilton

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> --R wrote:
>> You know we are talking about calculus differentials, not car 
>> differentials,
>> right?
>
> What's the difference?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] A lovely 280TE piece of junk

[Rich Thomas]

That car was defecated

--R

On 6/18/12 7:58 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:
a blue slip is for boys, which means the car will be defected for life. 


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Re: [MBZ] A lovely 280TE piece of junk

[Brian Toscano]

Are these pink slips and blue slips across Oz or just in NSW?


On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Hendrik & Fay wrote:

> If you are a girl you get a pink slip, which gives you the right to claim
> you know nothing about cars and you will be automatically issued with a
> road worthy certificate, a blue slip is for boys, which means the car will
> be defected for life.
> NRMA is the local news hounds who chase dodgy car sellers and nail them to
> a cross, without a report they will come to your door and claim that the
> car is possessed by the devil and you are Satan.
> Simple enough, even you lot over there should understand it.
>
> Hendrik
> who got the missus to get a pink slip but don't tell the NRMA
>
>
> On 18/06/12 08:08, Brian Toscano wrote:
>
>> LOL!  I love his attitude.
>>
>> What does he mean by "I am not providing a pink slip or blue slip and no
>> you cannot have a NRMA report"
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Hendrik&  Fay**
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Not sure what the shipping rates are to the US but where do you find
>>> S123's with ABS
>>> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=**
>>> **270998735449
>>> >> dll?ViewItem&item=270998735449
>>> **>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hendrik
>>> who also has ABS in the wagen
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Blocking

[Hendrik & Fay]

OMFG break out the champers, I think RLE has actually half quoted 
someone, I am squinting with half an eye but it definatley seems to be 
there, I am going to try underlining because it is rather small but I 
think it's there.


Hendrik
who is stirring that brown stuff something wicket

On 18/06/12 14:20, relng...@aol.com wrote the second bit after "relater":

/*_ From Iowa:_*/

The simplest thing is to just ignore or block posts from relly.  They
are almost always irrelevant.  Or, as he sez, not "relater."


Now that you have let us all know how educated you are, the question is,
why are you the way you are?

RLE




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[MBZ] netiquette

[Dieselhead]

I agree. I just don't see the point

RLE



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Re: [MBZ] A lovely 280TE piece of junk

[Hendrik & Fay]

If you are a girl you get a pink slip, which gives you the right to 
claim you know nothing about cars and you will be automatically issued 
with a road worthy certificate, a blue slip is for boys, which means the 
car will be defected for life.
NRMA is the local news hounds who chase dodgy car sellers and nail them 
to a cross, without a report they will come to your door and claim that 
the car is possessed by the devil and you are Satan.

Simple enough, even you lot over there should understand it.

Hendrik
who got the missus to get a pink slip but don't tell the NRMA

On 18/06/12 08:08, Brian Toscano wrote:

LOL!  I love his attitude.

What does he mean by "I am not providing a pink slip or blue slip and no
you cannot have a NRMA report"

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Hendrik&  Faywrote:


Not sure what the shipping rates are to the US but where do you find
S123's with ABS
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/**eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=**270998735449

Hendrik
who also has ABS in the wagen





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Re: [MBZ] Netiquette

[Hendrik & Fay]

Love a good trim

H

Dan wrote:

True,



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Re: [MBZ] Netiquette

[Hendrik & Fay]

OMG you are so gonna cop it from Roger, your best bet is to disconnect 
the internet for a month and hide in the fallout shelter.


Hendrik
who feels sorry for Brian

On 18/06/12 01:02, Brian Toscano wrote:

Unless there is a major subject change, it is most considerate to leave the
subject alone.  It helps people filter messages

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:


just so people don't get confused? Why don't you just leave the original

posters name on what you quoting?


I snip ruthlessly, and change Subjects with wild abandon.
(Though not enough, but I do try to keep the Subject
relevant.)  For me, it is not at all about _who_, but
about _what_ that is said, so I never include names.
These are pseudo-conversations, not legal proceedings,
in public, and I try to include only enough of a quote to
supply the context that is lost because these pseudo-
conversations are _not_ in real time.

Just trying to keep the flow going, and I try _never_ to
have quoted material that exceeds my contribution.

-- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] Netiquette

[Hendrik & Fay]

Fair enough but don't get the poo poos when someone replies to one of 
your cut up replies and heavens forbid they mat think that you wrote all 
of the stuff that I replied to, BTW I wrote the first part down there, 
just in case anybody thinks that Jim wrote it.


Hendrik
who also sometimes changes the subject line

On 17/06/12 23:23, Jim Cathey wrote:
just so people don't get confused? Why don't you just leave the 
original posters name on what you quoting?


I snip ruthlessly, and change Subjects with wild abandon.
(Though not enough, but I do try to keep the Subject
relevant.)  For me, it is not at all about _who_, but
about _what_ that is said, so I never include names.
These are pseudo-conversations, not legal proceedings,
in public, and I try to include only enough of a quote to
supply the context that is lost because these pseudo-
conversations are _not_ in real time.

Just trying to keep the flow going, and I try _never_ to
have quoted material that exceeds my contribution.

-- Jim







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