Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
The only solution would be to convert the human race to behave like animals. Animals don't commit atrocities. Not even a rabbit dog does. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a bomb, > is wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter what laws > were on the books. He would have found something to use, a nation cannot > outlaw and eliminate everything and anything that could be used to kill. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > >Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . > > > >On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon > >wrote: > >> Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! > >> > >> Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of > >guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children > >burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and > >would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? > >> -- > >> Max Dillon > >> Charleston SC > >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > >> > >> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> > >>>Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more > >disgusting.than > >>>the current debate. > >>> > >>> > >>>On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon > >>> wrote: > The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level > >not > >>>on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's > >>>attention away from the real problem: out of control federal > >spending. > > Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will > >>>be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, > >>>will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local > >>>governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone > >>>selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid > >>>doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, > >>>until the next self-made crisis comes along. > > Whole episode is quite disgusting. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>>___ > >>>http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >>>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] banished
Make that "persons". I have multiple accounts. Dan On Jan 17, 2013, at 9:47 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > Dan wrote: >> The joke is on them, however, as to this day I have numerous alias accounts, >> some of which I still post from as a totally innocuous member with a >> completely different persona. > > Oh, boy. > I gotta keep track of this. > I wonder if we can figure out which innocuous person is really Dan. > Nice. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SNOW
True, but it was still a lousy performing vehicle in the snow even with some weight in the back. The Aerostar was nothing more than a small truck chassis with a minivan body on it. The center of gravity was really high as well, which made it handle poorly. Body roll was a real problem, I thought. For a work vehicle it was great. Lousy as a passenger vehicle, IMHO. Dan On Jan 17, 2013, at 10:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> No reason to pay attention to the fact that it was rear wheel drive, the >> kiss of death in snow country for such vehicles. Right. So we get a really >> nice used Aerostar. > > All it really needed was some weight in the back. > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
You don't peen the new chain to the old. I used the new link, but not the plate, and it stayed in place just fine on the two chains I've done. Did both solo. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >I'm finally replacing the timing chain on my 240D tomorrow. The chain >came with a master link which is not a split link. When I attach the >new chain to the old and peen on the link, turn the chain, then don't >I have to grind off new link to separate old chain from new? Then don't >I need a new link to attach the two ends of the new chain? How do I do >this with only one link.? > >Sent from my iPhone >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
So you don't use either one of the two plates? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Max Dillon wrote: > You don't peen the new chain to the old. I used the new link, but not the > plate, and it stayed in place just fine on the two chains I've done. Did > both solo. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> I'm finally replacing the timing chain on my 240D tomorrow. The chain >> came with a master link which is not a split link. When I attach the >> new chain to the old and peen on the link, turn the chain, then don't >> I have to grind off new link to separate old chain from new? Then don't >> I need a new link to attach the two ends of the new chain? How do I do >> this with only one link.? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Or be like Janet Reno and incinerate them. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jan 17, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! > > Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of guns. The > headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children burned alive. Do > you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and would have used whatever > means were most readily at hand? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more disgusting.than >> the current debate. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon >> wrote: >>> The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level not >> on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's >> attention away from the real problem: out of control federal spending. >>> >>> Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will >> be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, >> will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local >> governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone >> selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid >> doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, >> until the next self-made crisis comes along. >>> >>> Whole episode is quite disgusting. >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
Use the middle plate. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >So you don't use either one of the two plates? > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Max Dillon >wrote: > >> You don't peen the new chain to the old. I used the new link, but >not the plate, and it stayed in place just fine on the two chains I've >done. Did both solo. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >>> I'm finally replacing the timing chain on my 240D tomorrow. The >chain >>> came with a master link which is not a split link. When I attach the >>> new chain to the old and peen on the link, turn the chain, then >don't >>> I have to grind off new link to separate old chain from new? Then >don't >>> I need a new link to attach the two ends of the new chain? How do I >do >>> this with only one link.? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ON TOPIC rubber doodads that hold the rad in place SNOW
Yes, summer is usually pretty decent. Too short but fun while it lasts. Nice to have the long long days in the spring. Randy who only has about 4 months to go before opening up the cottage again On 17/01/2013 5:44 PM, WILTON wrote: To enjoy those beautiful summers, eh? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ON TOPIC rubber doodads that hold the rad in place SNOW We are not short of snow right now. It could be worse I suppose and may soon be but there is probably close to a foot on my lawn right now. It starts out as more but sort of settles over time. We had a bit of a storm last weekend and the city has ploughed the roads. Unfortunately, they left me with about 8 feet of hard packed snow in my front sidewalk. Some knee deep and the rest ankle deep. Had to use the ice chipper to break out chunks so I could shovel it away. If one shovels immediately after the plough goes through it is easier. If one waits a bit, then it becomes pretty solid. The plough went through in the night some time so we did not shovel right away. By dinner time the next evening, it was a lot like concrete. Randy who wonders why he came back from Honolulu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Speaking of deranged killers, where is the outrage over subway platforms and subway trains? Surely something can be done to make them safer. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 17, 2013, at 23:56, Max Dillon wrote: > Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a bomb, is > wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter what laws were > on the books. He would have found something to use, a nation cannot outlaw > and eliminate everything and anything that could be used to kill. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . >> >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon >> wrote: >>> Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! >>> >>> Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of >> guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children >> burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and >> would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >>> >>> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>> Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more >> disgusting.than the current debate. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level >> not on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's attention away from the real problem: out of control federal >> spending. > > Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, until the next self-made crisis comes along. > > Whole episode is quite disgusting. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ON TOPIC rubber doodads that hold the rad in place SNOW
The one way ticket from Honolulu to YWG should have been REALLY cheap. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > > We are not short of snow right now. It could be worse I suppose and may soon > be but there is probably close to a foot on my lawn right now. It starts out > as more but sort of settles over time. We had a bit of a storm last weekend > and the city has ploughed the roads. Unfortunately, they left me with about > 8 feet of hard packed snow in my front sidewalk. Some knee deep and the rest > ankle deep. Had to use the ice chipper to break out chunks so I could shovel > it away. If one shovels immediately after the plough goes through it is > easier. If one waits a bit, then it becomes pretty solid. The plough went > through in the night some time so we did not shovel right away. By dinner > time the next evening, it was a lot like concrete. > > Randy who wonders why he came back from Honolulu > > On 17/01/2013 4:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> >> Thanks, Randy - appreciate your effort but I am not holding my breath. >> >> If they look like exhaust hangers and are the same size we will allow >> you to replace them with exhaust hangers. You might be able to copy a >> part number, however, which is the more elegant solution. >> >> How much snow has fallen since the New Year? >> >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Randy Bennell >> wrote: >>> >>> I have noticed that the radiator in my old 300D appears to be held in >>> place >>> by rubber doughnut type things similar to the exhaust hangers. >>> Mine look a bit the worse for wear. Cracks etc so I should likely get >>> some >>> new ones. >>> Has anyone had one of these fail/ Did it cause much harm? >>> Are they special items or are they small exhaust hangers? >>> The rad hoses seem to hold the rad in place reasonably well so I wonder >>> if >>> the rad would move back into the fan if the rubber thing let go. >>> Not an immediate issue as I am not driving the car these cold winter days >>> anyway but something I should not forget when spring rolls around. >>> I also thought I could likely put a nylon zip tie on with the rubber >>> doodad >>> temporarily to prevent movement. >>> >>> Randy who is trying to steer the thought processes away from more silly >>> firearms issues >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each kid with individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a rock!! The gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am beginning to understand your line of thinking On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a bomb, is > wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter what laws were > on the books. He would have found something to use, a nation cannot outlaw > and eliminate everything and anything that could be used to kill. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >>Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . >> >>On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon >>wrote: >>> Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! >>> >>> Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of >>guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children >>burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and >>would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >>> >>> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>> Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more >>disgusting.than the current debate. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level >>not on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's attention away from the real problem: out of control federal >>spending. > > Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, until the next self-made crisis comes along. > > Whole episode is quite disgusting. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Wow - why wasn't she convicted of such a horrible crime? On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: > Or be like Janet Reno and incinerate them. > > --R (sent from my miniPad) > > On Jan 17, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: >> Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! >> >> Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of guns. The >> headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children burned alive. Do >> you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and would have used whatever >> means were most readily at hand? >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> >>> Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more disgusting.than >>> the current debate. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon >>> wrote: The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level not >>> on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's >>> attention away from the real problem: out of control federal spending. Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will >>> be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, >>> will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local >>> governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone >>> selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid >>> doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, >>> until the next self-made crisis comes along. Whole episode is quite disgusting. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ON TOPIC rubber doodads that hold the rad in place SNOW
On 18/01/2013 11:09 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: The one way ticket from Honolulu to YWG should have been REALLY cheap. It was pretty inexpensive. I do not recall the exact amount but I think we flew Westjet from Honolulu to Vancouver and then on to Winnipeg for about $350 each. Part of that was because we left Honolulu on Monday evening. If we had flown back on Friday or Saturday it would have been a whole lot more. We went to Kona on the big island on the 27th of December. If I recall correctly the whole flight from Winnipeg to Calgary and then to Vancouver and then to Kona plus the return flight noted about was about $1200 each. Not bad really given the distance is something like 4000 miles each way and we hauled along enough luggage to last 2 weeks. The short hop on Hawaiian (sp?) Air from Kona on Hawaii to Honolulu on Oahu was more than $100 each if I recall. They charged us something like $15 per bag as well. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: 1987 Mercedes 300D - $800 (East Bridgewater)
Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - >From: "fred.s...@yahoo.com" >To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:32 PM >Subject: 1987 Mercedes 300D - $800 (East Bridgewater) > > >fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. >Please see below for more information. >Visit the posting at http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/pts/3553408454.html to >contact the person who posted this. > > >1987 Mercedes 300D Date: 2013-01-17, 7:39PM > >230,000 Miles >needs: >new head light assembly (left) >new hood >new radiator >new grille >I have 3 barely used snow tires not on car but will go with it. All the other >parts on car are intact and the engine still runs clean! major frontal damage >done because of previous accident. No damage has occurred beyond the radiator. >Selling whole car for 800 or best offer. Im willing to work with any >reasonable price >Contact James >339-933-2972 > * Location: East Bridgewater > * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial > interests >Original URL: http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/pts/3553408454.html > > >this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our >email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: > http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX184NDg3ODQ4Nz9HJsv3Ry_5jUYn11ZymrwHKQii_KP81xH02_ppFleDLcTynnmb6-tPIMX3oLMrFg > > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
What's your point? I don't get it. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:41 AM, John Reames wrote: > Speaking of deranged killers, where is the outrage over subway platforms and > subway trains? Surely something can be done to make them safer. > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Jan 17, 2013, at 23:56, Max Dillon wrote: > >> Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a bomb, >> is wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter what laws >> were on the books. He would have found something to use, a nation cannot >> outlaw and eliminate everything and anything that could be used to kill. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> >>> Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon >>> wrote: Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of >>> guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children >>> burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and >>> would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more >>> disgusting.than > the current debate. > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon > wrote: >> The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level >>> not > on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's > attention away from the real problem: out of control federal >>> spending. >> >> Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will > be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, > will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local > governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone > selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid > doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, > until the next self-made crisis comes along. >> >> Whole episode is quite disgusting. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
You may as well give it up Andrew. This sort of thing just carries on forever if you let it. Randy On 18/01/2013 11:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each kid with individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a rock!! The gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am beginning to understand your line of thinking On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a bomb, is wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter what laws were on the books. He would have found something to use, a nation cannot outlaw and eliminate everything and anything that could be used to kill. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more disgusting.than the current debate. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon wrote: The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level not on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's attention away from the real problem: out of control federal spending. Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, until the next self-made crisis comes along. Whole episode is quite disgusting. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So you don't use either one of the two plates? If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the two chains together. Does the original have a master? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Or a pointed stick! Better yet, a banana! (Then they could release the tiger.) Dan Monty Python Sent from my iPad On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each > kid with individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a > rock!! The gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am > beginning to understand your line of thinking > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Max Dillon > wrote: >> Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a bomb, >> is wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter what laws >> were on the books. He would have found something to use, a nation cannot >> outlaw and eliminate everything and anything that could be used to kill. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> >>> Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon >>> wrote: Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of >>> guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children >>> burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and >>> would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more >>> disgusting.than > the current debate. > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon > wrote: >> The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level >>> not > on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's > attention away from the real problem: out of control federal >>> spending. >> >> Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will > be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, > will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local > governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone > selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid > doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, > until the next self-made crisis comes along. >> >> Whole episode is quite disgusting. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Wow - why wasn't she convicted of such a horrible crime? Attorney Generals never see jail time, even when Congress votes them in contempt. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Well, department of justice statistics show that number of homicides by knives is just a little less than homicides using a rifle. If you add in blunt instruments and hand/fist/feet, all those exceed the number of homicides by rifle. Homicides by handgun are far higher, like ten times higher, than rifle or knife or blunt instrument homicides. Why no outcry about handguns? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each >kid with individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a >rock!! The gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am >beginning to understand your line of thinking > >On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Max Dillon > wrote: >> Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a >bomb, is wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter >what laws were on the books. He would have found something to use, a >nation cannot outlaw and eliminate everything and anything that could >be used to kill. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> >>>Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . >>> >>>On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon > >>>wrote: Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of >>>guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children >>>burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and >>>would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more >>>disgusting.than >the current debate. > > >On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon > wrote: >> The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level >>>not >on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's >attention away from the real problem: out of control federal >>>spending. >> >> Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure >will >be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second >amendment, >will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local >governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone >selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid >doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, >until the next self-made crisis comes along. >> >> Whole episode is quite disgusting. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>>___ >>>http://www.okiebenz.com >>>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercede
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Max Dillon wrote: Homicides by handgun are far higher, like ten times higher, than rifle or knife or blunt instrument homicides. Why no outcry about handguns? Because the Sandy Hook guy had a scary rifle in the car that he didn't bother to take into the school, so that's what we must ban, right now. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: 1987 Mercedes 300D - $800 (East Bridgewater)
Not mine,etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - >From: "fred.s...@yahoo.com" >To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:32 PM >Subject: 1987 Mercedes 300D - $800 (East Bridgewater) > > >fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. >Please see below for more information. >Visit the posting at http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/pts/3553408454.html to >contact the person who posted this. > > >1987 Mercedes 300D Date: 2013-01-17, 7:39PM > >230,000 Miles >needs: >new head light assembly (left) >new hood >new radiator >new grille >I have 3 barely used snow tires not on car but will go with it. All the other >parts on car are intact and the engine still runs clean! major frontal damage >done because of previous accident. No damage has occurred beyond the radiator. >Selling whole car for 800 or best offer. Im willing to work with any >reasonable price >Contact James >339-933-2972 > * Location: East Bridgewater > * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial > interests >Original URL: http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/pts/3553408454.html > > >this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our >email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: > http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX184NDg3ODQ4Nz9HJsv3Ry_5jUYn11ZymrwHKQii_KP81xH02_ppFleDLcTynnmb6-tPIMX3oLMrFg > > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to get the large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley has to come off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around 0.5-1 mm deep. Is it worth changing? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >> So you don't use either one of the two plates? > > If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the two chains > together. Does the original have a master? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
I guess that the point you are attempting to make is that the idea of such heinous attacks without an assault rifle (or at least a firearm of some sort) is not plausible, or that the number of victims would be much smaller. If your theory were correct, then such acts would not occur, or would be very rare, or there would be much fewer victims in a place where firearms are tightly controlled. But the following shows that your theory falls flat in the face of FACTS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%932012%29 25 dead and 115 injured! I guess you thought the idea of someone bashing kids' heads with a hammer is absurd and funny. Remember that a hammer might not kill as surely as an AR-15, so perhaps the fatality rate might not be as high. But a quick death might be kinder to a child and his family than a lifetime of severe disability from permanent brain damage. The FACT is that evil or madness will not be stopped by eliminating firearms! Best regards to all, Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each kid with individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a rock!! The gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am beginning to understand your line of thinking ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
Dimitri. If the grooves are smooth and not nicked or ragged, I'd reuse them. The "banana guide" is on the lesser tension side and not subject to the greater stresses of the IP side. I have never replaced one. The EPC and the books that are available do not say whether or not the pulley must be removed first. Judging by the relative position in available pictures in the Haynes manual, the pulley must be removed first. YMMV. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: "dsereta...@yahoo.com" >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:41 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link > >Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to get the >large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley has to come >off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around 0.5-1 mm deep. Is it >worth changing? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a recess in the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin which anchors the bottom of the rail. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to get >the large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley has >to come off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around 0.5-1 >mm deep. Is it worth changing? > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > >> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> So you don't use either one of the two plates? >> >> If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the >two chains together. Does the original have a master? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Yeah, I am pretty pooped by all of this Andrew, who is hoping we will return to our diesel roots. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > > You may as well give it up Andrew. This sort of thing just carries on > forever if you let it. > > Randy > > On 18/01/2013 11:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> >> Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each >> kid with individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a >> rock!! The gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am >> beginning to understand your line of thinking >> >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Max Dillon >> wrote: >>> >>> Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a >>> bomb, is wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter what >>> laws were on the books. He would have found something to use, a nation >>> cannot outlaw and eliminate everything and anything that could be used to >>> kill. >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >>> >>> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>> Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > > Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! > > Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? > > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more disgusting.than >> >> the current debate. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon >> wrote: >>> >>> The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level not >> >> on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's >> attention away from the real problem: out of control federal spending. >>> >>> Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will >> >> be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, >> will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local >> governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone >> selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid >> doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, >> until the next self-made crisis comes along. >>> >>> Whole episode is quite disgusting. >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscr
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Aha, another left wing conspiracy. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> >> Wow - why wasn't she convicted of such a horrible crime? > > > Attorney Generals never see jail time, even when Congress votes them in > contempt. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
Will try that. Also does the tensioner have to be primed? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a recess in > the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin which anchors > the bottom of the rail. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to get >> the large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley has >> to come off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around 0.5-1 >> mm deep. Is it worth changing? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: >> >>> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So you don't use either one of the two plates? >>> >>> If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the >> two chains together. Does the original have a master? >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
Yes, submerge in engine oil, compress and release until no more air comes out and the force required to compress is very high. BBB procedure calls for using an arbor press or drill press (but no drilling, just compressing). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >Will try that. Also does the tensioner have to be primed? > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Jan 18, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Max Dillon >wrote: > >> Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a >recess in the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin >which anchors the bottom of the rail. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >>> Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to >get >>> the large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley >has >>> to come off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around >0.5-1 >>> mm deep. Is it worth changing? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: >>> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > So you don't use either one of the two plates? If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the >>> two chains together. Does the original have a master? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
What's "funny" is that some people think guns are not at fault - ever - for anything bad/evil/violent. They are mere inanimate objects, no more dangerous than a toothpick or banana, since someone somewhere is evil enough to do great harm with any ordinary object. That's what I call reductio ad absurdo. I say let's give this entire exchange a decent burial and get back to CARS and DIESELS, and limit OT conversations according to the rules of the list that bar political topics. This is a rule that the listmeister currently refuses to enforce, perhaps because he happens to be a passionate advocate against any form of gun control and most of the list members are of a like mind. RIP. . On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > I guess that the point you are attempting to make is that the idea of such > heinous attacks without an assault rifle (or at least a firearm of some > sort) is not plausible, or that the number of victims would be much smaller. > If your theory were correct, then such acts would not occur, or would be > very rare, or there would be much fewer victims in a place where firearms > are tightly controlled. > > But the following shows that your theory falls flat in the face of FACTS: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%932012%29 > > 25 dead and 115 injured! > > I guess you thought the idea of someone bashing kids' heads with a hammer is > absurd and funny. Remember that a hammer might not kill as surely as an > AR-15, so perhaps the fatality rate might not be as high. But a quick death > might be kinder to a child and his family than a lifetime of severe > disability from permanent brain damage. > > The FACT is that evil or madness will not be stopped by eliminating > firearms! > > Best regards to all, > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > Strasfogel > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:14 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home > > Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each kid with > individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a rock!! The > gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am beginning to understand > your line of thinking > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
<< I say let's give this entire exchange a decent burial...>> I agree, as long as I have the last word in this dialogue, Andrew! Guns ARE dangerous! But they are not more dangerous than hammers, knives, baseball bats, cars and other objects that kill and maim many when misused. BTW I am not impressed with your incorrect and inappropriate use of the Latin term reductio ad absurdum-- NOT absurdo. The toothpick and banana reference is indeed absurd, but the Wikipedia reference I gave below (which you no doubt didn't bother to look at) lists attacks against schoolchildren WITHOUT firearms which actually took place in a country with strict gun control. These events prove the plausibility of the argument that it is the human being that is the threat, not a particular object. Citing facts does not constitute a reductio ad absurdum argument. You need to work on your critical thinking skills! There is always something that can be used as a weapon. I have been trained to use a Bic pen or even a NY Times as a deadly weapon. Keeping those persons who would use violence against others off the streets is the better answer. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home What's "funny" is that some people think guns are not at fault - ever - for anything bad/evil/violent. They are mere inanimate objects, no more dangerous than a toothpick or banana, since someone somewhere is evil enough to do great harm with any ordinary object. That's what I call reductio ad absurdo. I say let's give this entire exchange a decent burial and get back to CARS and DIESELS, and limit OT conversations according to the rules of the list that bar political topics. This is a rule that the listmeister currently refuses to enforce, perhaps because he happens to be a passionate advocate against any form of gun control and most of the list members are of a like mind. RIP. . On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: > I guess that the point you are attempting to make is that the idea of > such heinous attacks without an assault rifle (or at least a firearm > of some > sort) is not plausible, or that the number of victims would be much smaller. > If your theory were correct, then such acts would not occur, or would > be very rare, or there would be much fewer victims in a place where > firearms are tightly controlled. > > But the following shows that your theory falls flat in the face of FACTS: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%932 > 012%29 > > 25 dead and 115 injured! > > I guess you thought the idea of someone bashing kids' heads with a > hammer is absurd and funny. Remember that a hammer might not kill as > surely as an AR-15, so perhaps the fatality rate might not be as high. > But a quick death might be kinder to a child and his family than a > lifetime of severe disability from permanent brain damage. > > The FACT is that evil or madness will not be stopped by eliminating > firearms! > > Best regards to all, > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Andrew Strasfogel > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:14 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home > > Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each > kid with individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a > rock!! The gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am > beginning to understand your line of thinking > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
Correct - I never had to remove the crank pulley to replace the banana rail. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a recess > in the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin which > anchors the bottom of the rail. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > > >Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to get > >the large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley has > >to come off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around 0.5-1 > >mm deep. Is it worth changing? > > > >Sent from my iPhone > > > >On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > > >> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > >>> So you don't use either one of the two plates? > >> > >> If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the > >two chains together. Does the original have a master? > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home
Right exactly Sent from my iPhone On Jan 17, 2013, at 3:04 PM, "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > Point of order: True assault rifles ARE machine guns. But AR-15 > (auto-loading) rifles/carbines are not assault rifles (nor are they heavy > weapons as some insist). > > This is like someone calling your 300TD a pickup truck because you can carry > stuff in the back. > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. > Striplin > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:17 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN definition and They took their ball and when home > > More on this, I think the average low information person thinks assault > riffles are machine guns. I heard one of them on the radio talking about > these guns shooting 100 rounds a minute. Bzzt wrong > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 16, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: > >> OK fair enough, you may replace 'assault rifle' with 'somewhat high > powered, semi automatic, self loading, large magazine capacity, similar to > military type, not particularly accurate at longer distance, popular with > preppers, type of rifle' >> >> Hendrik >> who is about to go out in the heat, according to gauge it's 45C on the > roof but am not going there >> >> On 17/01/13 14:14, G Mann wrote: >>> I respectfully submit, it is impossible for a rifle to "assault". An >>> individual can "assault", however, a device can not. The use of the term >>> "assault rifle" is intended to assault your senses and is thus, by legal >>> interpretation, an assault. >>> >>> Many laws, in many countries, all are written to hold an individual >>> responsible for the act of assault. I have yet to find even one case, in >>> one court, where a device , ie a rifle, has met the legal standard of > Mens >>> Rea. Mens Rea [see Blacks Law Dictionary] requires two things, the > Intent, >>> and the Act. Please produce for me a device that by it's own volition, >>> meets those qualifiers. >>> >>> A man may "assault" another with a rock, club, or gun.. but the rock, > club, >>> or gun are incapable of that act of "assault" by themselves. >>> >>> To be progressively mislead into the improper use of such inflammatory >>> language, by those who at the same time loudly assault verbally > themselves >>> is in large part responsible for the volatile rhetoric we have, on both >>> sides of the issue. >>> >>> It is my considered opinion that those who are terrified of demons freely >>> demonize anything that they do not understand and being fearful run > rather >>> than self educate and think logically. >>> >>> Or, they are just damn crazy and not capable of logical thought. >>> >>> I'm off to curse and eat my young while I argue oil and tires with some >>> @#)($&*% idiot. >>> >>> Grant... :)) >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Hendrik and fay > wrote: >>> Yes sort of like the mere mention of gun control makes them act like the King of England is invading and they only have 20 assault rifles stashed under the bed. Hendrik who has nothing under the bed but dust On 17/01/13 13:18, Jim Cathey wrote: > I've met them before. Mere mention of the means of effective > self-defense makes 'em act like you're about to vivisect their > pet, personally. Or child. It's truly weird. > > -- Jim >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana rail alone, we changed the upper left slide rail and the tensioner. We didn't prime the tensioner. Drove the car and all is well. Fred's tool for removing the guide pin worked like a charm. I also ended up borrowing a service link and chain crimping tool from my friend's friend. Only snag was that I broke off one of the plastic vacuum line attachments on what I think is a thermo switch mounted on top of the thermostat housing. What is this for anyway? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:26 PM, OK Don wrote: > Correct - I never had to remove the crank pulley to replace the banana rail. > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > >> Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a recess >> in the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin which >> anchors the bottom of the rail. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >>> Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to get >>> the large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley has >>> to come off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around 0.5-1 >>> mm deep. Is it worth changing? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: >>> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > So you don't use either one of the two plates? If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the >>> two chains together. Does the original have a master? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 2012 Passat TDI DSG > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > 1957 C182A > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Neck surgery
I have been through a very providential set of circumstances recently that has brought me a medical diagnosis of my recent tingling of limbs and chest/back and some difficulty walking. Shirley had a periodic checkup for her seizures scheduled with her neurologist in Santa Fe at the end of December and I drove here there. During her appointment, which was short, being just a "Hi, how are you doing" kind of thing, I asked if I might ask a question. I related my feelings of tingling and one time when I stood up from sitting on the floor painting baseboards I felt like an electric shock sensation in my legs. The neurologist had me get up on her exam table, did some poking and prodding, and said I needed to get an MRI of my head and neck. I saw my Primary Care Physician's (PCP) Certified Family Nurse Practitioner (CFNP) assistant, who started the proceedings. I got the MRIs on 9 January. I was back in the PCP's office on 14 January. Because of all of the neurology jargon in the MRI report, the CFNP referred me back to Shirley's neurologist. I immediately called for an appointment and got one for yesterday, 17 January (something unheard of in that doctor's practice -- it usually takes months to get in). During yesterday's appointment, Shirley's neurologist (now mine) said I should see a neurosurgeon who had an office downstairs from hers. She recommended we make the appointment on the way out of the building. We did that and were told there was a cancellation for today. At the appointment this morning, the neurosurgeon showed Shirley and me the images from the MRIs. He pointed out some significant narrowing of my spinal cord in the region of the 7th cervical vertebra and the 1st thoracic vertebra and said I had a sick spinal cord. He said I needed surgery. He said it wasn't an emergency, but that I did need to get it taken care of soon. His assistant came in to talk scheduling and was ready to schedule surgery for me on Monday. I said I wanted to talk with some people, so I did not schedule. His assistant gave me a packet of materials with all the information about pre-surgery blood tests, EKG, and X-ray and sent us on our way. The packet says the surgery is a cervical laminectomy and fusion of two vertebrae. So! We definitely need prayer for wisdom about how to proceed and that the Lord would open the doors to the right place and surgeon for proper care and recovery, among other things. Thank you all! Craig P.S. Perhaps this is why I haven't been able to find a job yet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:29:18 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana > rail alone, we changed the upper left slide rail and the tensioner. We > didn't prime the tensioner. Drove the car and all is well. Fred's tool > for removing the guide pin worked like a charm. I also ended up > borrowing a service link and chain crimping tool from my friend's > friend. Congratulations! > Only snag was that I broke off one of the plastic vacuum line > attachments on what I think is a thermo switch mounted on top of the > thermostat housing. What is this for anyway? It's probably something to modulate the control for the automatic transmission depending upon the engine temperature. I think. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
Thanks. My car has a manual tranny so it must be for something else. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Craig wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:29:18 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana >> rail alone, we changed the upper left slide rail and the tensioner. We >> didn't prime the tensioner. Drove the car and all is well. Fred's tool >> for removing the guide pin worked like a charm. I also ended up >> borrowing a service link and chain crimping tool from my friend's >> friend. > > Congratulations! > > >> Only snag was that I broke off one of the plastic vacuum line >> attachments on what I think is a thermo switch mounted on top of the >> thermostat housing. What is this for anyway? > > It's probably something to modulate the control for the automatic > transmission depending upon the engine temperature. I think. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery
Trust your docs, but verify. Good luck with it all. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Craig wrote: I have been through a very providential set of circumstances recently that has brought me a medical diagnosis of my recent tingling of limbs and chest/back and some difficulty walking. Shirley had a periodic checkup for her seizures scheduled with her neurologist in Santa Fe at the end of December and I drove here there. During her appointment, which was short, being just a "Hi, how are you doing" kind of thing, I asked if I might ask a question. I related my feelings of tingling and one time when I stood up from sitting on the floor painting baseboards I felt like an electric shock sensation in my legs. The neurologist had me get up on her exam table, did some poking and prodding, and said I needed to get an MRI of my head and neck. I saw my Primary Care Physician's (PCP) Certified Family Nurse Practitioner (CFNP) assistant, who started the proceedings. I got the MRIs on 9 January. I was back in the PCP's office on 14 January. Because of all of the neurology jargon in the MRI report, the CFNP referred me back to Shirley's neurologist. I immediately called for an appointment and got one for yesterday, 17 January (something unheard of in that doctor's practice -- it usually takes months to get in). During yesterday's appointment, Shirley's neurologist (now mine) said I should see a neurosurgeon who had an office downstairs from hers. She recommended we make the appointment on the way out of the building. We did that and were told there was a cancellation for today. At the appointment this morning, the neurosurgeon showed Shirley and me the images from the MRIs. He pointed out some significant narrowing of my spinal cord in the region of the 7th cervical vertebra and the 1st thoracic vertebra and said I had a sick spinal cord. He said I needed surgery. He said it wasn't an emergency, but that I did need to get it taken care of soon. His assistant came in to talk scheduling and was ready to schedule surgery for me on Monday. I said I wanted to talk with some people, so I did not schedule. His assistant gave me a packet of materials with all the information about pre-surgery blood tests, EKG, and X-ray and sent us on our way. The packet says the surgery is a cervical laminectomy and fusion of two vertebrae. So! We definitely need prayer for wisdom about how to proceed and that the Lord would open the doors to the right place and surgeon for proper care and recovery, among other things. Thank you all! Craig P.S. Perhaps this is why I haven't been able to find a job yet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery
One of my co-workers had this done a couple years ago. He was having problems with walking any great distance and climbing stairs and though he was having heart problems, but when his hands started going numb and he got leg pains, he discovered that a disk in his neck was bulged and pressing on the spinal column. The surgery he had was to cut away the bulge in the disk and insert a tapered metal spacer in the front of the spine between the vertebra and screw it in. Worked great, he's had no problems since and a full recovery. This is the same thing Payton Manning had done last fall, C7 in his case. He's still playing professional football, so I'm sure its a well known and reliable way to fix the problem. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery
Craig, my wife Teri, had over 7 years of pain and the same issues you speak of. Finally she did the same thing and went to a spine specialist. She was told the exact same thing and ALL our friends and family said "don't do it, you'll never be the same". Well, we too prayed about it and chose the laminectomy and fusion. It has been 2 years and our friends were right, she isn't the same. She is 200 percent better! It was the best thing we ever did. She can pick up grandchildren for the first time, walk 3 miles at a time and do things she hasn't done in years. It was a good 6 month recovery time but trust the Lord and go for it, you will never be sorry. The 6 inch scar is a small price to pay for pain free living. If you want any more info about it just give me a call. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Craig Sender: "Mercedes" Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:39:11 To: mercedes Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery I have been through a very providential set of circumstances recently that has brought me a medical diagnosis of my recent tingling of limbs and chest/back and some difficulty walking. Shirley had a periodic checkup for her seizures scheduled with her neurologist in Santa Fe at the end of December and I drove here there. During her appointment, which was short, being just a "Hi, how are you doing" kind of thing, I asked if I might ask a question. I related my feelings of tingling and one time when I stood up from sitting on the floor painting baseboards I felt like an electric shock sensation in my legs. The neurologist had me get up on her exam table, did some poking and prodding, and said I needed to get an MRI of my head and neck. I saw my Primary Care Physician's (PCP) Certified Family Nurse Practitioner (CFNP) assistant, who started the proceedings. I got the MRIs on 9 January. I was back in the PCP's office on 14 January. Because of all of the neurology jargon in the MRI report, the CFNP referred me back to Shirley's neurologist. I immediately called for an appointment and got one for yesterday, 17 January (something unheard of in that doctor's practice -- it usually takes months to get in). During yesterday's appointment, Shirley's neurologist (now mine) said I should see a neurosurgeon who had an office downstairs from hers. She recommended we make the appointment on the way out of the building. We did that and were told there was a cancellation for today. At the appointment this morning, the neurosurgeon showed Shirley and me the images from the MRIs. He pointed out some significant narrowing of my spinal cord in the region of the 7th cervical vertebra and the 1st thoracic vertebra and said I had a sick spinal cord. He said I needed surgery. He said it wasn't an emergency, but that I did need to get it taken care of soon. His assistant came in to talk scheduling and was ready to schedule surgery for me on Monday. I said I wanted to talk with some people, so I did not schedule. His assistant gave me a packet of materials with all the information about pre-surgery blood tests, EKG, and X-ray and sent us on our way. The packet says the surgery is a cervical laminectomy and fusion of two vertebrae. So! We definitely need prayer for wisdom about how to proceed and that the Lord would open the doors to the right place and surgeon for proper care and recovery, among other things. Thank you all! Craig P.S. Perhaps this is why I haven't been able to find a job yet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery
Craig, my wife Teri, had over 7 years of pain and the same issues you speak of. Finally she did the same thing and went to a spine specialist. She was told the exact same thing and ALL our friends and family said "don't do it, you'll never be the same". Well, we too prayed about it and chose the laminectomy and fusion. It has been 2 years and our friends were right, she isn't the same. She is 200 percent better! It was the best thing we ever did. She can pick up grandchildren for the first time, walk 3 miles at a time and do things she hasn't done in years. It was a good 6 month recovery time but trust the Lord and go for it, you will never be sorry. The 6 inch scar is a small price to pay for pain free living. If you want any more info about it just give me a call. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Craig Sender: "Mercedes" Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:39:11 To: mercedes Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery I have been through a very providential set of circumstances recently that has brought me a medical diagnosis of my recent tingling of limbs and chest/back and some difficulty walking. Shirley had a periodic checkup for her seizures scheduled with her neurologist in Santa Fe at the end of December and I drove here there. During her appointment, which was short, being just a "Hi, how are you doing" kind of thing, I asked if I might ask a question. I related my feelings of tingling and one time when I stood up from sitting on the floor painting baseboards I felt like an electric shock sensation in my legs. The neurologist had me get up on her exam table, did some poking and prodding, and said I needed to get an MRI of my head and neck. I saw my Primary Care Physician's (PCP) Certified Family Nurse Practitioner (CFNP) assistant, who started the proceedings. I got the MRIs on 9 January. I was back in the PCP's office on 14 January. Because of all of the neurology jargon in the MRI report, the CFNP referred me back to Shirley's neurologist. I immediately called for an appointment and got one for yesterday, 17 January (something unheard of in that doctor's practice -- it usually takes months to get in). During yesterday's appointment, Shirley's neurologist (now mine) said I should see a neurosurgeon who had an office downstairs from hers. She recommended we make the appointment on the way out of the building. We did that and were told there was a cancellation for today. At the appointment this morning, the neurosurgeon showed Shirley and me the images from the MRIs. He pointed out some significant narrowing of my spinal cord in the region of the 7th cervical vertebra and the 1st thoracic vertebra and said I had a sick spinal cord. He said I needed surgery. He said it wasn't an emergency, but that I did need to get it taken care of soon. His assistant came in to talk scheduling and was ready to schedule surgery for me on Monday. I said I wanted to talk with some people, so I did not schedule. His assistant gave me a packet of materials with all the information about pre-surgery blood tests, EKG, and X-ray and sent us on our way. The packet says the surgery is a cervical laminectomy and fusion of two vertebrae. So! We definitely need prayer for wisdom about how to proceed and that the Lord would open the doors to the right place and surgeon for proper care and recovery, among other things. Thank you all! Craig P.S. Perhaps this is why I haven't been able to find a job yet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:49:18 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > Thanks. My car has a manual tranny so it must be for something else. It could also have something to do with the EGR. Craig > On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Craig wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:29:18 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > >> Only snag was that I broke off one of the plastic vacuum line > >> attachments on what I think is a thermo switch mounted on top of the > >> thermostat housing. What is this for anyway? > > > > It's probably something to modulate the control for the automatic > > transmission depending upon the engine temperature. I think. > > > > > > Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Huh? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > What's your point? I don't get it. > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:41 AM, John Reames wrote: >> Speaking of deranged killers, where is the outrage over subway platforms and >> subway trains? Surely something can be done to make them safer. >> >> -- >> John W Reames >> jream...@verizon.net >> Home: +14106646986 >> Mobile: +14437915905 >> >> On Jan 17, 2013, at 23:56, Max Dillon wrote: >> >>> Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a bomb, >>> is wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter what laws >>> were on the books. He would have found something to use, a nation cannot >>> outlaw and eliminate everything and anything that could be used to kill. >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >>> >>> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>> Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! > > Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more disgusting.than >> the current debate. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon >> wrote: >>> The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level not >> on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's >> attention away from the real problem: out of control federal spending. >>> >>> Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will >> be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, >> will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local >> governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone >> selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid >> doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, >> until the next self-made crisis comes along. >>> >>> Whole episode is quite disgusting. >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okieb
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Need to get rid of them Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:41 AM, John Reames wrote: > Speaking of deranged killers, where is the outrage over subway platforms and > subway trains? Surely something can be done to make them safer. > > -- > John W Reames > jream...@verizon.net > Home: +14106646986 > Mobile: +14437915905 > > On Jan 17, 2013, at 23:56, Max Dillon wrote: > >> Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a bomb, >> is wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter what laws >> were on the books. He would have found something to use, a nation cannot >> outlaw and eliminate everything and anything that could be used to kill. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> >>> Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon >>> wrote: Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of >>> guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children >>> burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and >>> would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more >>> disgusting.than > the current debate. > > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon > wrote: >> The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level >>> not > on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's > attention away from the real problem: out of control federal >>> spending. >> >> Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will > be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, > will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local > governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone > selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid > doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, > until the next self-made crisis comes along. >> >> Whole episode is quite disgusting. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
So guns by some magic load and shoot themselves? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > What's "funny" is that some people think guns are not at fault - ever > - for anything bad/evil/violent. They are mere inanimate objects, no > more dangerous than a toothpick or banana, since someone somewhere is > evil enough to do great harm with any ordinary object. That's what I > call reductio ad absurdo. > > I say let's give this entire exchange a decent burial and get back to > CARS and DIESELS, and limit OT conversations according to the rules of > the list that bar political topics. This is a rule that the > listmeister currently refuses to enforce, perhaps because he happens > to be a passionate advocate against any form of gun control and most > of the list members are of a like mind. RIP. > . > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino > wrote: >> I guess that the point you are attempting to make is that the idea of such >> heinous attacks without an assault rifle (or at least a firearm of some >> sort) is not plausible, or that the number of victims would be much smaller. >> If your theory were correct, then such acts would not occur, or would be >> very rare, or there would be much fewer victims in a place where firearms >> are tightly controlled. >> >> But the following shows that your theory falls flat in the face of FACTS: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%932012%29 >> >> 25 dead and 115 injured! >> >> I guess you thought the idea of someone bashing kids' heads with a hammer is >> absurd and funny. Remember that a hammer might not kill as surely as an >> AR-15, so perhaps the fatality rate might not be as high. But a quick death >> might be kinder to a child and his family than a lifetime of severe >> disability from permanent brain damage. >> >> The FACT is that evil or madness will not be stopped by eliminating >> firearms! >> >> Best regards to all, >> >> Greg >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew >> Strasfogel >> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 9:14 AM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home >> >> Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each kid with >> individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a rock!! The >> gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am beginning to understand >> your line of thinking >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Greg wrote: > There is always something that can be used as a weapon. I have been trained > to use a Bic pen or even a NY Times as a deadly weapon. Nice. ...umm... Nice waste of time? Being employed by a killing agency gets persons that type of training and might be necessary, but... The tactic sounds interesting, but totally not necessary for my life. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
I'm sure all the dead Tutsis and Hutus in Rowanda really appreciate being hacked to death rather than shot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 12:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home Yeah, like a toothpick! Or maybe a telephone cord to strangle each kid with individually. or a hammer to bash each kid in the head. Or a rock!! The gun had NO role whatsoever in this tragedy. I am beginning to understand your line of thinking On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Point: the deranged killer, not his weapon, be it a gun or fire or a bomb, is wholly responsible for the act. He would have acted no matter what laws were on the books. He would have found something to use, a nation cannot outlaw and eliminate everything and anything that could be used to kill. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >>Not sure what your point is. What if he used a dirty bomb? . >> >>On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Max Dillon >>wrote: >>> Agreed! A tragedy and terrible crime that will haunt my memory! >>> >>> Now, imagine if the deranged killer had used gasoline instead of >>guns. The headlines would read about tens maybe hundreds of children >>burned alive. Do you doubt that this killer was bent on death, and >>would have used whatever means were most readily at hand? >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >>> >>> Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>> Frankly, kids getting mowed down in school is way more >>disgusting.than the current debate. On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > The whole current debate about gun control, at the national level >>not on this list, is a manufactured distraction to get the people's attention away from the real problem: out of control federal >>spending. > > Republicans control the house, no national gun control measure will be passed. Supreme court is VERY supportive of the second amendment, will probably quash anything stupid done by state and local governments. It's all a distraction, a bunch of noise, and anyone selling guns or ammo is getting rich, and the politicians can avoid doing any real work, yet look good to their polarized constituents, until the next self-made crisis comes along. > > Whole episode is quite disgusting. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
Congrats! Can you detect any improvement in how the engine runs? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana >rail alone, we changed the upper left slide rail and the tensioner. We >didn't prime the tensioner. Drove the car and all is well. Fred's tool >for removing the guide pin worked like a charm. I also ended up >borrowing a service link and chain crimping tool from my friend's >friend. >Only snag was that I broke off one of the plastic vacuum line >attachments on what I think is a thermo switch mounted on top of the >thermostat housing. What is this for anyway? > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:26 PM, OK Don wrote: > >> Correct - I never had to remove the crank pulley to replace the >banana rail. >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Max Dillon >wrote: >> >>> Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a >recess >>> in the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin >which >>> anchors the bottom of the rail. >>> -- >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >>> >>> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to >get the large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley >has to come off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around >0.5-1 mm deep. Is it worth changing? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >> So you don't use either one of the two plates? > > If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the two chains together. Does the original have a master? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> 2001 ML320 >> 2012 Passat TDI DSG >> 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager >> 1957 C182A >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
So far no perceptible difference but I didn't drive it long enough. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > Congrats! Can you detect any improvement in how the engine runs? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana >> rail alone, we changed the upper left slide rail and the tensioner. We >> didn't prime the tensioner. Drove the car and all is well. Fred's tool >> for removing the guide pin worked like a charm. I also ended up >> borrowing a service link and chain crimping tool from my friend's >> friend. >> Only snag was that I broke off one of the plastic vacuum line >> attachments on what I think is a thermo switch mounted on top of the >> thermostat housing. What is this for anyway? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:26 PM, OK Don wrote: >> >>> Correct - I never had to remove the crank pulley to replace the >> banana rail. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Max Dillon >> wrote: >>> Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a >> recess in the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin >> which anchors the bottom of the rail. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to >> get > the large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley >> has > to come off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around >> 0.5-1 > mm deep. Is it worth changing? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > >> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> So you don't use either one of the two plates? >> >> If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the > two chains together. Does the original have a master? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> 2001 ML320 >>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG >>> 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager >>> 1957 C182A >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aerostar
> ...For a work vehicle it was great. Lousy as a passenger vehicle, IMHO... > Understeered like a pig. RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
"I broke off one of the plastic vacuum line attachments on what I think is a thermo switch mounted on top of the thermostat housing" If memory serves, it is a thermal switch that prevents vacuum from operating the ERG before the engine warms up. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link Update. We successfully changed the timing chain. We left the banana rail alone, we changed the upper left slide rail and the tensioner. We didn't prime the tensioner. Drove the car and all is well. Fred's tool for removing the guide pin worked like a charm. I also ended up borrowing a service link and chain crimping tool from my friend's friend. Only snag was that I broke off one of the plastic vacuum line attachments on what I think is a thermo switch mounted on top of the thermostat housing. What is this for anyway? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:26 PM, OK Don wrote: > Correct - I never had to remove the crank pulley to replace the banana rail. > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > >> Procedure 05-330 covers, looks like you can rotate crank so that a recess >> in the pulley/balancer assembly allows access to extract the pin which >> anchors the bottom of the rail. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >>> Ok, I borrowed one with a link from a friend. Now, I'm trying to get >>> the large banana guide rail out by I'm not sure if the crank pulley has >>> to come off for access. Does anyone know? It has grooves around 0.5-1 >>> mm deep. Is it worth changing? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: >>> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > So you don't use either one of the two plates? If I had a master link with a clip on it, I'd use that to link the >>> two chains together. Does the original have a master? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 2012 Passat TDI DSG > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > 1957 C182A > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] talk radio
> ...Does anyone remember the beginning of talk radio and Rush Limbaugh?.. > Talk radio began in the '60s and had nothing to do with Limbaugh and his ilk. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery
I think this is what you needed to hear, Craig. Call the man, talk out out. Rich has offered good advice, get input from another doc or two. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: > >Craig, my wife Teri, had over 7 years of pain and the same issues you >speak of. Finally she did the same thing and went to a spine >specialist. She was told the exact same thing and ALL our friends and >family said "don't do it, you'll never be the same". Well, we too >prayed about it and chose the laminectomy and fusion. It has been 2 >years and our friends were right, she isn't the same. She is 200 >percent better! It was the best thing we ever did. She can pick up >grandchildren for the first time, walk 3 miles at a time and do things >she hasn't done in years. It was a good 6 month recovery time but trust >the Lord and go for it, you will never be sorry. The 6 inch scar is a >small price to pay for pain free living. If you want any more info >about it just give me a call. > > > >Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® > >-Original Message- >From: Craig >Sender: "Mercedes" >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 18:39:11 >To: mercedes >Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery > >I have been through a very providential set of circumstances recently >that has brought me a medical diagnosis of my recent tingling of limbs >and chest/back and some difficulty walking. > >Shirley had a periodic checkup for her seizures scheduled with her >neurologist in Santa Fe at the end of December and I drove here there. >During her appointment, which was short, being just a "Hi, how are you >doing" kind of thing, I asked if I might ask a question. I related my >feelings of tingling and one time when I stood up from sitting on the >floor painting baseboards I felt like an electric shock sensation in my >legs. > >The neurologist had me get up on her exam table, did some poking and >prodding, and said I needed to get an MRI of my head and neck. I saw my >Primary Care Physician's (PCP) Certified Family Nurse Practitioner >(CFNP) >assistant, who started the proceedings. I got the MRIs on 9 January. I >was back in the PCP's office on 14 January. Because of all of the >neurology jargon in the MRI report, the CFNP referred me back to >Shirley's neurologist. I immediately called for an appointment and got >one for yesterday, 17 January (something unheard of in that doctor's >practice -- it usually takes months to get in). > >During yesterday's appointment, Shirley's neurologist (now mine) said I >should see a neurosurgeon who had an office downstairs from hers. She >recommended we make the appointment on the way out of the building. We >did that and were told there was a cancellation for today. > >At the appointment this morning, the neurosurgeon showed Shirley and me >the images from the MRIs. He pointed out some significant narrowing of >my >spinal cord in the region of the 7th cervical vertebra and the 1st >thoracic vertebra and said I had a sick spinal cord. He said I needed >surgery. He said it wasn't an emergency, but that I did need to get it >taken care of soon. > >His assistant came in to talk scheduling and was ready to schedule >surgery for me on Monday. I said I wanted to talk with some people, so >I >did not schedule. His assistant gave me a packet of materials with all >the information about pre-surgery blood tests, EKG, and X-ray and sent >us >on our way. The packet says the surgery is a cervical laminectomy and >fusion of two vertebrae. > >So! We definitely need prayer for wisdom about how to proceed and that >the Lord would open the doors to the right place and surgeon for proper >care and recovery, among other things. > >Thank you all! > > >Craig > >P.S. Perhaps this is why I haven't been able to find a job yet. > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery
I had a cervical laminectomy in 1985 to correct spinal cord pinching at cervical vertebrae 6 & 7 that caused much pain in left shoulder, arm hand, back. Had surgery mid-afternoon; up walking about briskly next morning; drove home (60 mi) that afternoon. 'Have had no recurrence. Fantastic relief for a problem that had gone on way too long. I had learned why anybody would go to Mexico, Brazil, China, Russia - anywhere they thought they may be able to get some relief. 'Hope your surgery goes as well as mine. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "mercedes" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery I have been through a very providential set of circumstances recently that has brought me a medical diagnosis of my recent tingling of limbs and chest/back and some difficulty walking. Shirley had a periodic checkup for her seizures scheduled with her neurologist in Santa Fe at the end of December and I drove here there. During her appointment, which was short, being just a "Hi, how are you doing" kind of thing, I asked if I might ask a question. I related my feelings of tingling and one time when I stood up from sitting on the floor painting baseboards I felt like an electric shock sensation in my legs. The neurologist had me get up on her exam table, did some poking and prodding, and said I needed to get an MRI of my head and neck. I saw my Primary Care Physician's (PCP) Certified Family Nurse Practitioner (CFNP) assistant, who started the proceedings. I got the MRIs on 9 January. I was back in the PCP's office on 14 January. Because of all of the neurology jargon in the MRI report, the CFNP referred me back to Shirley's neurologist. I immediately called for an appointment and got one for yesterday, 17 January (something unheard of in that doctor's practice -- it usually takes months to get in). During yesterday's appointment, Shirley's neurologist (now mine) said I should see a neurosurgeon who had an office downstairs from hers. She recommended we make the appointment on the way out of the building. We did that and were told there was a cancellation for today. At the appointment this morning, the neurosurgeon showed Shirley and me the images from the MRIs. He pointed out some significant narrowing of my spinal cord in the region of the 7th cervical vertebra and the 1st thoracic vertebra and said I had a sick spinal cord. He said I needed surgery. He said it wasn't an emergency, but that I did need to get it taken care of soon. His assistant came in to talk scheduling and was ready to schedule surgery for me on Monday. I said I wanted to talk with some people, so I did not schedule. His assistant gave me a packet of materials with all the information about pre-surgery blood tests, EKG, and X-ray and sent us on our way. The packet says the surgery is a cervical laminectomy and fusion of two vertebrae. So! We definitely need prayer for wisdom about how to proceed and that the Lord would open the doors to the right place and surgeon for proper care and recovery, among other things. Thank you all! Craig P.S. Perhaps this is why I haven't been able to find a job yet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Timing chain link
DITTO HERE. If you want some added insurance, put in the new master with the center link, roll it to the edge of the cam sprocket and then put a wrap or two of plain masking tape around it. Even if the masking tape fell off in the chaincase, it would not cause harm. Option two, which I like better, is to go to an industrial supply house and get a double master with a spring clip of the same or close size. ... Or better yet, go to the stealership to get the real "repair link" Use the middle plate. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SNOW
True, but it was still a lousy performing vehicle in the snow even with some weight in the back. The Aerostar was nothing more than a small truck chassis with a minivan body on it. The center of gravity was really high as well, which made it handle poorly. Body roll was a real problem, I thought. For a work vehicle it was great. Lousy as a passenger vehicle, IMHO. Dan On Jan 17, 2013, at 10:11 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: No reason to pay attention to the fact that it was rear wheel drive, the kiss of death in snow country for such vehicles. Right. So we get a really nice used Aerostar. All it really needed was some weight in the back. > -- Jim > Dunno about the Dorf van, but the dogde caravan scared the snot out of me when i got caught in wet schnee in western Michigan N of GR. I made may way very slowly (because it was friday night about 5 when the snow was pouring down.) to the nearest wallyland and had them put on 2 new allweather tires on the front. After that it was good. Later, I put blizzaks on the front. Even with bald blizzaks the thing will go anywhere on schnee up to when it floats on the belly pan. (same as VW bug) I have been very pleased with Blizzaks on the dogde and the MBs for many winters since then. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
"protection" Wow - why wasn't she convicted of such a horrible crime? On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Or be like Janet Reno and incinerate them. > --R (sent from my miniPad) > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Neck surgery
On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Craig wrote: I have been through a very providential set of circumstances recently that has brought me a medical diagnosis of my recent tingling of limbs and chest/back and some difficulty walking. Shirley had a periodic checkup for her seizures scheduled with her neurologist in Santa Fe at the end of December and I drove here there. During her appointment, which was short, being just a "Hi, how are you doing" kind of thing, I asked if I might ask a question. I related my feelings of tingling and one time when I stood up from sitting on the floor painting baseboards I felt like an electric shock sensation in my legs. The neurologist had me get up on her exam table, did some poking and prodding, and said I needed to get an MRI of my head and neck. I saw my Primary Care Physician's (PCP) Certified Family Nurse Practitioner (CFNP) assistant, who started the proceedings. I got the MRIs on 9 January. I was back in the PCP's office on 14 January. Because of all of the neurology jargon in the MRI report, the CFNP referred me back to Shirley's neurologist. I immediately called for an appointment and got one for yesterday, 17 January (something unheard of in that doctor's practice -- it usually takes months to get in). During yesterday's appointment, Shirley's neurologist (now mine) said I should see a neurosurgeon who had an office downstairs from hers. She recommended we make the appointment on the way out of the building. We did that and were told there was a cancellation for today. At the appointment this morning, the neurosurgeon showed Shirley and me the images from the MRIs. He pointed out some significant narrowing of my spinal cord in the region of the 7th cervical vertebra and the 1st thoracic vertebra and said I had a sick spinal cord. He said I needed surgery. He said it wasn't an emergency, but that I did need to get it taken care of soon. His assistant came in to talk scheduling and was ready to schedule surgery for me on Monday. I said I wanted to talk with some people, so I did not schedule. His assistant gave me a packet of materials with all the information about pre-surgery blood tests, EKG, and X-ray and sent us on our way. The packet says the surgery is a cervical laminectomy and fusion of two vertebrae. So! We definitely need prayer for wisdom about how to proceed and that the Lord would open the doors to the right place and surgeon for proper care and recovery, among other things. Thank you all! Craig P.S. Perhaps this is why I haven't been able to find a job yet. ... I would make an appt with another neurologist (not a neurosurgeon); preferably at a medical school or non-profit clinic such as Mayo or Cleveland Clinic; for a second opinion. Two points raise flags in my mind about this neurosurgeon. "Sick spinal cord" is a strange term that may frighten the patient, and the fact that he wanted to schedule surgery so quickly. I would never have major surgery without a second opinion. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
I guess that the point you are attempting to make is that the idea of such heinous attacks without an assault rifle (or at least a firearm of some sort) is not plausible, or that the number of victims would be much smaller. If your theory were correct, then such acts would not occur, or would be very rare, or there would be much fewer victims in a place where firearms are tightly controlled. But the following shows that your theory falls flat in the face of FACTS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_%282010%E2%80%932012%29 25 dead and 115 injured! By the same logic: No guns were used at the OKC Fed building, therefore no one could be killed. Sounds good to me. I guess you thought the idea of someone bashing kids' heads with a hammer is absurd and funny. Remember that a hammer might not kill as surely as an AR-15, so perhaps the fatality rate might not be as high. But a quick death might be kinder to a child and his family than a lifetime of severe disability from permanent brain damage. The FACT is that evil or madness will not be stopped by eliminating firearms! Best regards to all, Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:20 PM, "Mountain Man" wrote: > The tactic sounds interesting, but totally not necessary for my life. Dude, we gotta get you a job, so you can have a life... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
I still can't understand the irrational fear some people have of guns. I think it is just a stigma passed down to them by their environment. Possibly because in the Northeast and other areas that are anti-gun most gun owners are cops and criminals. In other parts of the country guns are just part of life and no big deal. What annoys me the most is that these anti-gun people seem to want federal bans on guns as if they know what's good for the entire country (and the rest of us are just ignorant rednecks and hillbillies) On Friday, January 18, 2013, Rick Knoble wrote: > On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:20 PM, "Mountain Man" > > > wrote: > > > The tactic sounds interesting, but totally not necessary for my life. > > > Dude, we gotta get you a job, so you can have a life... > > Rick > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:54 PM, "Brian Toscano" wrote: > (and the > rest of us are just ignorant rednecks and hillbillies) Hey. I resemble that remark :-) Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Even out west there is huge fear of fire arms. It has more to do with the supposed civilized folks who inhabit urban areas instead of the good people who live in suburbs or rural locations. Even though a few urban denizens may hunt for sport, there is a greater percentage of small town residents for whom hunting is a way of life. Used to be that people abandoned school for deer hunting in high school in November. At least in the rural town school I attended. My oldest kid grew up in urban seattle and all the kids live in fear of guns. Taking off a week to hunt Bambi is considered a hate crime. Closest his peers get to gun love is to blast away virtual enemies in a video game. West coast city folk live in fear of guns and the people of color who wield them. Same as the city folk of the east. Rural residents are not so overcome by guns or waste mental energy on fire arms. It would be akin to getting involved in arguments over what is stocked in the out house. clay On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: > I still can't understand the irrational fear some people have of guns. > > I think it is just a stigma passed down to them by their environment. > Possibly because in the Northeast and other areas that are anti-gun most > gun owners are cops and criminals. > > In other parts of the country guns are just part of life and no big deal. > > What annoys me the most is that these anti-gun people seem to want federal > bans on guns as if they know what's good for the entire country (and the > rest of us are just ignorant rednecks and hillbillies) > > > On Friday, January 18, 2013, Rick Knoble wrote: > >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:20 PM, "Mountain Man" >> > >> wrote: >> >>> The tactic sounds interesting, but totally not necessary for my life. >> >> >> Dude, we gotta get you a job, so you can have a life... >> >> Rick >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN time They took their ball and when home
Yes well, we could argue this for a while but I think the time has come to either take it banned or a forum dedicated to this sort of discussion. I will post this http://mark.reid.name/iem/gun-deaths-vs-gun-ownership.html perhaps it might sort of make you see why some people don't like guns. Hendrik who is not one of the 15 out of 100 On 19/01/13 15:24, Brian Toscano wrote: I still can't understand the irrational fear some people have of guns. I think it is just a stigma passed down to them by their environment. Possibly because in the Northeast and other areas that are anti-gun most gun owners are cops and criminals. In other parts of the country guns are just part of life and no big deal. What annoys me the most is that these anti-gun people seem to want federal bans on guns as if they know what's good for the entire country (and the rest of us are just ignorant rednecks and hillbillies) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Final soap box gun comment
Hmmhn, serious indeed. I am thinking she won't be getting a hug from the prez and may well have to go to bed without dinner. Hendrik who used to have an assault soap bubble gun On 19/01/13 15:17, Gerry Archer wrote: After the following incident I'm convinced that gun possession is a serious risk, that all guns should be confiscated, and that the penalties for possession should be severe: MOUNT CARMEL, Pa. - A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink toy gun that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten. Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days but was reduced to two. Attorney Robin Ficker says Mount Carmel Area School District officials labeled the girl a "terrorist threat" for the bubble gun remark, made Jan. 10 as both girls waited for a school bus. Ficker says the girl didn't even have the bubble gun with her and has never fired a real gun. He says she's "the least terroristic person in Pennsylvania." School district solicitor Edward Greco tells pennlive.com ( http://bit.ly/13Nu0QF) officials are looking into the case. He said Friday school officials aren't at liberty to discuss disciplinary actions. http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2020166781_apusbubblegunsuspension.html Gerry..who is turning in his soap bubble guns tomorrow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT GUN They took their ball and when home
Now we are really going off the deep end of off topic. Lets not forget these same people who think we need to take away guns because they will kill people are in favor of abortion. I guess it's ok to kill kids when they might be an inconvenient problem at the time. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: > I still can't understand the irrational fear some people have of guns. > > I think it is just a stigma passed down to them by their environment. > Possibly because in the Northeast and other areas that are anti-gun most > gun owners are cops and criminals. > > In other parts of the country guns are just part of life and no big deal. > > What annoys me the most is that these anti-gun people seem to want federal > bans on guns as if they know what's good for the entire country (and the > rest of us are just ignorant rednecks and hillbillies) > > > On Friday, January 18, 2013, Rick Knoble wrote: > >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 8:20 PM, "Mountain Man" >> > >> wrote: >> >>> The tactic sounds interesting, but totally not necessary for my life. >> >> >> Dude, we gotta get you a job, so you can have a life... >> >> Rick >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
