Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba
I suspect the name serves as sufficient warning. (What does a urologist do again?) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 4, 2013, at 22:56, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Yes, and get plenty of those URO brand parts from them while you're at it. Dan On May 4, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Forget about Trent check autohausaz Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: BuyMBParts is which? The page is telling me parts for 1980 240Ds are not stocked and must be special ordered. Nice. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Yup. IIRC, production was less than 10k, possibly less than 5k. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 4, 2013, at 20:00, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Max wrote: 210 had OM606 for multiple years, for the 124 it was a single year of production. For the turbo exhaust, the multiple years were 1998 and 1999. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1999 Mercedes E300 Turbodiesel Fuel Injector Leak Issues(UNCLASSIFIED)
The ones for the OM606 are longer by necessity; making the engine 4 valve per cylinder resulted in the injector being placed between the camshafts, so each one is down in a hole (that is slightly deeper than the injector is long). Draining said holes of accumulated diesel fuel is quite fun. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 4, 2013, at 18:15, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Lengths for the return hoses is very easy; remove old one and cut new one to length to match; often, somebody else has installed one or more excessively long, if so, cut new one a little shorter. A meter's a plenty for complete set. Several years ago, when my tremor was so bad that I could not change the tubes myself, I asked Indy to replace 3 or 4 of 'em on my 350SDL and had left a meter of the hose/tube on center console. Well, I may as well use ALL of it - shonuf - 'used every bit of it on about 4 tubes - way the Hell too long! Trent sells it by meter. Wilton - Original Message - From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 Mercedes E300 Turbodiesel Fuel Injector Leak Issues(UNCLASSIFIED) Wetness around the injectors is still likely to be bypass hoses, unless its up around the nut, in which case the line should be disconnected/reconnected. I believe that you need 2-3 meters of hose for the job, but I haven't done it in a while. (I've got a gauge stick around somewhere though!) The easiest way to get the exact lengths of the hoses is to look them up in the EPC. Wetness around the delivery valves (on the injection pump, which is half hiding under the intake manifold), is a whole separate ball of wax; that will mean re-sealing the delivery valves (which is an annoying, fiddly job) If you will be doing your own maintenance on the car, you might want to leave the vertically-oriented bolt that goes through the tab on the charge air pipe and a bracket before threading into the EGR valve out; it is a MAJOR PITA to get to (there is not even a straight shot from below). You may also want to keep a spare intake manifold gasket around. BTW, I think there's a detailed write-up on the delivery valve reseal floating around. The EPC does NOT list the seals at all for an OM606 of any variant, but they are the same as the ones on an OM601/OM602/OM603. Likewise, WIS does not list a job for re-sealing the valves; dealer procedure is to replace the pump. (This is likely due to the fact that you will have at least a 10% chance of one that needs to be re-done immediately (which of course means the intake manifold has to come back off)) (2x 210.025, 1x 123.133 in the driveway) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 4, 2013, at 14:47, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: Whenever I've had fuel wetness around my injectors, I've been lucky enough that only the fuel return tubes that go from injector-to-injector, etc. (small, cloth-covered, rubber tubes), have been leaking and simply replacing those has cured the leaking/wetness. Are your return tubes dry? He's got the 24v OM606, with its own kind of fuel leaks. They pretty much all do it or have had recent leak repairs. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
They probably do, that may be the best option. MB muffler pipes on my car are REALLY thick compared to the adapters and the after-market catalytic converter, so expanding the original pipes may be extremely difficult if not impossible. Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2013 20:43:02 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The best repair was taking the car to a local muffler shop, who welded the pipe back together, in place, for $5. Does not one's local muffler shop have a machine that can expand the diameter of one end of a pipe? That would seem to be the right solution to adapt a catalytic converter to a new application. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Struts
I noticed that Charlie Hart is a moderator, too. Haven't talked to him in some years. Dan On May 4, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote: Just the diesel forum. Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Of what? The MBCA forums? Dan, banned for life from MBCA Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] starship
IIRC back when Beech was selling them, the Avanti had better numbers, fuel consumption, number of seats, etc, according to several articles I read. That was the reason for the Starships poor sales according to the article. The Avanti is still in production. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_P.180_Avanti (includes picture) Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com What was wrong with them? On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 8:10 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: All Starships were removed from service, Beachcraft bought them all back and retired them.. except one. The owner refused to sell it back and continues to use it. I believe it is the only flying Starship. Very good fellow pilot friend is a certified Starship pilot and flew them for years in corporate use. The information comes from him and I consider it reliable. I'll verify it with a phone call later tonight. Likely, he knows both the airplane and the crew. Grant... -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5797 - Release Date: 05/04/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
Five dollars??? How long ago was that? Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com I've used aluminum cans and sections of old license plates as well, with multiple hose and/or muffler clamps to hold it in place. I usually slathered muffler repair goo on both sides of the break before wrapping the metal around it. The best repair was taking the car to a local muffler shop, who welded the pipe back together, in place, for $5. On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: When I bought the '83 300D in 2000 it had a 1 hole in the back muffler. I wrapped a piece of roofing valley (flexible aluminum metal) around the muffler and over the hole, and put two or three daisy-chained stainless clamps around it. 100K miles later it's still there and doesn't leak. IIRC Wiltons clamps are also made of aluminum. Aluminum valley comes in a roll, isn't very expensive, and can be very useful for a number of repair jobs. I once pop-riveted several layers of it in a rusted out floor pan; hammering it to shape with a rubber mallet. It was still there several years later when I junked the car. Gerry From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Well, 'looks like the link for entire page went; 2 or 3 possibilities shown on this page from fairly light to robust examples. They come in different lengths and diameters, of course. I've used a 2-inch one maybe 3 inches long on a 2-inch drain pipe. Visit plumbing supply house or Lowe's and explore the selections. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images Max, here's the clamp I had in mind - without the rubber insert, of course. There are more robust ones, too. Trying to send link to the individual clamp, but afraid that entire page will go, if so, I'll try something else. http://www.bing.com/images/**search?q=8+Water+Pipe+Clamp** Form=IQFRDR#view=detailid=**6202BE412F7B3B735A7749BA028850** EF8A5396D7selectedIndex=27http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=8+Water+Pipe+ClampForm=IQFRDR#view=detailid=6202BE412F7B3B735A7749BA028850EF8A5396D7selectedIndex=27 Wilton __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5797 - Release Date: 05/04/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2241 / Virus Database: 3162/5797 - Release Date: 05/04/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] starship
And that's why general aviation is stuck in 1940s technology. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] starship Nothing. The problem was, the entire fleet sold only made a bit more than 50 airplanes. The certification of an all composite airplane had never been done [Beech spent millions and millions getting past FAA] and the FAA has no basis to establish service life on the composite parts, like wing spars, for example. The requirement to continue to supply service and parts exceeded the profit potential for the fleet, no new sales or production was going to happen, so Beech did the only thing it could to save it's ass, it bought them all back. Short story, huge money involved, excellent aircraft, those who flew them or owned them loved them. It's my information they are all setting stored someplace, still. Grant... On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:37 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: What was wrong with them? On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 8:10 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: All Starships were removed from service, Beachcraft bought them all back and retired them.. except one. The owner refused to sell it back and continues to use it. I believe it is the only flying Starship. Very good fellow pilot friend is a certified Starship pilot and flew them for years in corporate use. The information comes from him and I consider it reliable. I'll verify it with a phone call later tonight. Likely, he knows both the airplane and the crew. Grant... -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
There is a pipe expansion tool that you can probably borrow from FLAPS. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Tools-Garage-and-Equipment/Tail -Pipe-Expander/_/N-25fc -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 8:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images They probably do, that may be the best option. MB muffler pipes on my car are REALLY thick compared to the adapters and the after-market catalytic converter, so expanding the original pipes may be extremely difficult if not impossible. Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2013 20:43:02 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The best repair was taking the car to a local muffler shop, who welded the pipe back together, in place, for $5. Does not one's local muffler shop have a machine that can expand the diameter of one end of a pipe? That would seem to be the right solution to adapt a catalytic converter to a new application. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
I tried one of those, wouldn't do a thing with the original MB pipe. I suspect something using hydraulic pressure would be required. Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: There is a pipe expansion tool that you can probably borrow from FLAPS. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Tools-Garage-and-Equipment/Tail -Pipe-Expander/_/N-25fc -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 8:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images They probably do, that may be the best option. MB muffler pipes on my car are REALLY thick compared to the adapters and the after-market catalytic converter, so expanding the original pipes may be extremely difficult if not impossible. Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2013 20:43:02 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The best repair was taking the car to a local muffler shop, who welded the pipe back together, in place, for $5. Does not one's local muffler shop have a machine that can expand the diameter of one end of a pipe? That would seem to be the right solution to adapt a catalytic converter to a new application. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1999 Mercedes E300 Turbodiesel Fuel Injector Leak Issues(UNCLASSIFIED)
On Sun, 5 May 2013 08:06:35 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: The ones for the OM606 are longer by necessity; making the engine 4 valve per cylinder resulted in the injector being placed between the camshafts, so each one is down in a hole (that is slightly deeper than the injector is long). Draining said holes of accumulated diesel fuel is quite fun. Turkey baster! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Struts
You are banned from the MBCA forum? Why? Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I noticed that Charlie Hart is a moderator, too. Haven't talked to him in some years. Dan On May 4, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote: Just the diesel forum. Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Of what? The MBCA forums? Dan, banned for life from MBCA Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
The socket into which the headlight bulb on my brothers 89 300TE plugs in has corroded to the point that it no longer makes good contact with the prongs on the bulb. It looks like it sustained some sort of heat damage at some point and was repaired with epoxy. Is this part of the wiring harness or is it replaceable within the headlight assembly? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
The socket into which the headlight bulb on my brothers 89 300TE plugs in has corroded to the point that it no longer makes good contact with the prongs on the bulb. It looks like it sustained some sort of heat damage at some point and was repaired with epoxy. Is this part of the wiring harness or is it replaceable within the headlight assembly? My guess is yes, and yes. Soldering can be a very useful skill. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Struts/MBCA
No. I am banned for life from the MBCA. Long story that I am not going to get into here. In a nutshell, the MBCA in the late 1990s was very fragmented and run by a small group of people for their own per$onal benefit. Some of us challenged them and in the process were banned. I was one of a number. I have been invited to re-join since then, but I see no value in it - especially if I can use the forums for free. The STAR would be good for the bottom of a birdcage but I don't have a bird, not to mention newspaper is pretty much free. Dan banned and proud of it On May 5, 2013, at 9:56 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: You are banned from the MBCA forum? Why? Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I noticed that Charlie Hart is a moderator, too. Haven't talked to him in some years. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Struts
He is not omit banned from the forum he is banned from mbca in general, as are a few other people I know. Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 8:56 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: You are banned from the MBCA forum? Why? Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I noticed that Charlie Hart is a moderator, too. Haven't talked to him in some years. Dan On May 4, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote: Just the diesel forum. Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Of what? The MBCA forums? Dan, banned for life from MBCA Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Struts
I still have an MBCA license plate frame that has been tastefully altered that says MBCA across the top and Sucks across the bottom. The local chapter folks have seen it and think it's a hoot. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: He is not omit banned from the forum he is banned from mbca in general, as are a few other people I know. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
Max, would you rather weld that joint? I noticed that slits have been cut on opposite sides of the bigger pipe end. Of, course, each half of the pipe end between the slits still has too much curve for them to squeeze inward a bit to close the gap between bigger and smaller pipes, but if additional slits were cut at 90° to the present slits and then again half way between those new slits and the original ones, each tab would be only ~¾ inch wide and would be flat enough to bend inward slightly and close the gap between the 2 pipes for welding. 'Course, you'd then hafta weld the slits. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images They probably do, that may be the best option. MB muffler pipes on my car are REALLY thick compared to the adapters and the after-market catalytic converter, so expanding the original pipes may be extremely difficult if not impossible. Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2013 20:43:02 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The best repair was taking the car to a local muffler shop, who welded the pipe back together, in place, for $5. Does not one's local muffler shop have a machine that can expand the diameter of one end of a pipe? That would seem to be the right solution to adapt a catalytic converter to a new application. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Struts/MBCA
Ah yes...the good old days.I'm sure there has been an entire regime change out and list have been lost. You could join the forums as Martha. Bob R On May 5, 2013 7:33 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: No. I am banned for life from the MBCA. Long story that I am not going to get into here. In a nutshell, the MBCA in the late 1990s was very fragmented and run by a small group of people for their own per$onal benefit. Some of us challenged them and in the process were banned. I was one of a number. I have been invited to re-join since then, but I see no value in it - especially if I can use the forums for free. The STAR would be good for the bottom of a birdcage but I don't have a bird, not to mention newspaper is pretty much free. Dan banned and proud of it On May 5, 2013, at 9:56 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: You are banned from the MBCA forum? Why? Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I noticed that Charlie Hart is a moderator, too. Haven't talked to him in some years. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1999 Mercedes E300 Turbodiesel Fuel Injector Leak Issues(UNCLASSIFIED)
The clearance might permit a pipette to fit to the bottom; I usually fabricate long swabs -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 5, 2013, at 9:53, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 5 May 2013 08:06:35 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: The ones for the OM606 are longer by necessity; making the engine 4 valve per cylinder resulted in the injector being placed between the camshafts, so each one is down in a hole (that is slightly deeper than the injector is long). Draining said holes of accumulated diesel fuel is quite fun. Turkey baster! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Struts/MBCA
I have an area director that was in my corner the whole time, and he is willing to vouch for me whenever I would want to return. I am invited to all of the chapter events and have always been welcome. I just don't have the time nor the inclination. The whole tenor of the organization and the local chapter has changed, and in a way that doesn't appeal to me. Our chapter is definitely better than it was, for sure, but it's more late model youngsters and some of the legacy people, and a very small, if any, contingent of DIY sorts of folks. I've got plenty of opportunities for social gatherings within my own circles. Just because the people who attend own MBs isn't a qualifier. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Ah yes...the good old days.I'm sure there has been an entire regime change out and list have been lost. You could join the forums as Martha. Bob R On May 5, 2013 7:33 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: No. I am banned for life from the MBCA. Long story that I am not going to get into here. In a nutshell, the MBCA in the late 1990s was very fragmented and run by a small group of people for their own per$onal benefit. Some of us challenged them and in the process were banned. I was one of a number. I have been invited to re-join since then, but I see no value in it - especially if I can use the forums for free. The STAR would be good for the bottom of a birdcage but I don't have a bird, not to mention newspaper is pretty much free. Dan banned and proud of it On May 5, 2013, at 9:56 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: You are banned from the MBCA forum? Why? Sent from my iPhone On May 5, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I noticed that Charlie Hart is a moderator, too. Haven't talked to him in some years. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
Yes, the goal was to weld all the joints, but we really needed a lift to get enough clearance to install the entire assembly. With the catalytic converter installed, it was too long to get the right angle for the bends going from horizontal (pipes and converter under the car) to near vertical (pipes going up to exhaust manifold). I was limited in how high I could get the car by the jack stands I had. The pipes coming off the exhaust manifold had to fit into a narrow area between firewall, steering gear, and lower frame cross member. Hard for me to explain without a picture. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Max, would you rather weld that joint? I noticed that slits have been cut on opposite sides of the bigger pipe end. Of, course, each half of the pipe end between the slits still has too much curve for them to squeeze inward a bit to close the gap between bigger and smaller pipes, but if additional slits were cut at 90° to the present slits and then again half way between those new slits and the original ones, each tab would be only ~¾ inch wide and would be flat enough to bend inward slightly and close the gap between the 2 pipes for welding. 'Course, you'd then hafta weld the slits. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images They probably do, that may be the best option. MB muffler pipes on my car are REALLY thick compared to the adapters and the after-market catalytic converter, so expanding the original pipes may be extremely difficult if not impossible. Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2013 20:43:02 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The best repair was taking the car to a local muffler shop, who welded the pipe back together, in place, for $5. Does not one's local muffler shop have a machine that can expand the diameter of one end of a pipe? That would seem to be the right solution to adapt a catalytic converter to a new application. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
But I understand. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images Yes, the goal was to weld all the joints, but we really needed a lift to get enough clearance to install the entire assembly. With the catalytic converter installed, it was too long to get the right angle for the bends going from horizontal (pipes and converter under the car) to near vertical (pipes going up to exhaust manifold). I was limited in how high I could get the car by the jack stands I had. The pipes coming off the exhaust manifold had to fit into a narrow area between firewall, steering gear, and lower frame cross member. Hard for me to explain without a picture. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Max, would you rather weld that joint? I noticed that slits have been cut on opposite sides of the bigger pipe end. Of, course, each half of the pipe end between the slits still has too much curve for them to squeeze inward a bit to close the gap between bigger and smaller pipes, but if additional slits were cut at 90° to the present slits and then again half way between those new slits and the original ones, each tab would be only ~¾ inch wide and would be flat enough to bend inward slightly and close the gap between the 2 pipes for welding. 'Course, you'd then hafta weld the slits. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images They probably do, that may be the best option. MB muffler pipes on my car are REALLY thick compared to the adapters and the after-market catalytic converter, so expanding the original pipes may be extremely difficult if not impossible. Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2013 20:43:02 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The best repair was taking the car to a local muffler shop, who welded the pipe back together, in place, for $5. Does not one's local muffler shop have a machine that can expand the diameter of one end of a pipe? That would seem to be the right solution to adapt a catalytic converter to a new application. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Benz techopR0n
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/05/laser-suspension/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
You had to ask - probably thirty years ago now :-) On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Five dollars??? How long ago was that? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
That was my experience as well - in fact, they didn't even work on after-market new American exhaust tubing. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I tried one of those, wouldn't do a thing with the original MB pipe. I suspect something using hydraulic pressure would be required. Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: There is a pipe expansion tool that you can probably borrow from FLAPS. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Tools-Garage-and-Equipment/Tail -Pipe-Expander/_/N-25fc -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
'Going faster now, too, aren't they? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images You had to ask - probably thirty years ago now :-) On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Five dollars??? How long ago was that? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Struts
You are banned from the MBCA forum? Why? Sent from my iPhone He was too clean for 'em! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
Oh, my, how they are! On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:58 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Going faster now, too, aren't they? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images You had to ask - probably thirty years ago now :-) On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com** wrote: Five dollars??? How long ago was that? Gerry __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
Hello -- My '91 300D did the same thing. I bought a used headlight wiring thingie that was about 10 long with the headlight bulb connector on one end and a plug on the other. I removed the bulb, unplugged the bad harness and replaced it with the used harness in about 10 min. I think I paid about $10 or less for my replacement harness. I believe this is not a uncommon problem -- my headlight bulb socket looked like it had melted - like cheese does - it took a distorted shape that did not connect the bulb completely. Maybe Kaleb has a used one? I bought mine from a small junk yard in NC IIRC - Good luck - LarryT 91 30D On 5/5/2013 10:17 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The socket into which the headlight bulb on my brothers 89 300TE plugs in has corroded to the point that it no longer makes good contact with the prongs on the bulb. It looks like it sustained some sort of heat damage at some point and was repaired with epoxy. Is this part of the wiring harness or is it replaceable within the headlight assembly? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
You can get them at NAPA. Whenever I did the relay modification and/or added Euro headlights to a car, I always replaced the headlight lamp socket with these. They are typically in stock at decent sized NAPA stores and used to be about $4 each. Be sure to get the heavy duty ones, as there are standard duty ones as well. They have heavy duty sockets in just about any configuration you need. Here's an example: http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=NW_787108_0328445986 Dan On May 5, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Larry T wrote: Hello -- My '91 300D did the same thing. I bought a used headlight wiring thingie that was about 10 long with the headlight bulb connector on one end and a plug on the other. I removed the bulb, unplugged the bad harness and replaced it with the used harness in about 10 min. I think I paid about $10 or less for my replacement harness. I believe this is not a uncommon problem -- my headlight bulb socket looked like it had melted - like cheese does - it took a distorted shape that did not connect the bulb completely. Maybe Kaleb has a used one? I bought mine from a small junk yard in NC IIRC - Good luck - LarryT 91 30D On 5/5/2013 10:17 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The socket into which the headlight bulb on my brothers 89 300TE plugs in has corroded to the point that it no longer makes good contact with the prongs on the bulb. It looks like it sustained some sort of heat damage at some point and was repaired with epoxy. Is this part of the wiring harness or is it replaceable within the headlight assembly? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
Oh - I almost forgot: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You can get them at NAPA. Whenever I did the relay modification and/or added Euro headlights to a car, I always replaced the headlight lamp socket with these. They are typically in stock at decent sized NAPA stores and used to be about $4 each. Be sure to get the heavy duty ones, as there are standard duty ones as well. They have heavy duty sockets in just about any configuration you need. Here's an example: http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=NW_787108_0328445986 Dan On May 5, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Larry T wrote: Hello -- My '91 300D did the same thing. I bought a used headlight wiring thingie that was about 10 long with the headlight bulb connector on one end and a plug on the other. I removed the bulb, unplugged the bad harness and replaced it with the used harness in about 10 min. I think I paid about $10 or less for my replacement harness. I believe this is not a uncommon problem -- my headlight bulb socket looked like it had melted - like cheese does - it took a distorted shape that did not connect the bulb completely. Maybe Kaleb has a used one? I bought mine from a small junk yard in NC IIRC - Good luck - LarryT 91 30D On 5/5/2013 10:17 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The socket into which the headlight bulb on my brothers 89 300TE plugs in has corroded to the point that it no longer makes good contact with the prongs on the bulb. It looks like it sustained some sort of heat damage at some point and was repaired with epoxy. Is this part of the wiring harness or is it replaceable within the headlight assembly? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Struts/MBCA
I have an area director that was in my corner the whole time, and he is willing to vouch for me whenever I would want to return. I am invited to all of the chapter events and have always been welcome. Ah, Yes, the Kathy Vs. the hoity toitys era. A sad time for MBCA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
Thanks Dan -- I'm not used to finding something like this at NAPA! Thanks for the info -- LarryT On 5/5/2013 1:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You can get them at NAPA. Whenever I did the relay modification and/or added Euro headlights to a car, I always replaced the headlight lamp socket with these. They are typically in stock at decent sized NAPA stores and used to be about $4 each. Be sure to get the heavy duty ones, as there are standard duty ones as well. They have heavy duty sockets in just about any configuration you need. Here's an example: http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=NW_787108_0328445986 Dan On May 5, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Larry T wrote: Hello -- My '91 300D did the same thing. I bought a used headlight wiring thingie that was about 10 long with the headlight bulb connector on one end and a plug on the other. I removed the bulb, unplugged the bad harness and replaced it with the used harness in about 10 min. I think I paid about $10 or less for my replacement harness. I believe this is not a uncommon problem -- my headlight bulb socket looked like it had melted - like cheese does - it took a distorted shape that did not connect the bulb completely. Maybe Kaleb has a used one? I bought mine from a small junk yard in NC IIRC - Good luck - LarryT 91 30D On 5/5/2013 10:17 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The socket into which the headlight bulb on my brothers 89 300TE plugs in has corroded to the point that it no longer makes good contact with the prongs on the bulb. It looks like it sustained some sort of heat damage at some point and was repaired with epoxy. Is this part of the wiring harness or is it replaceable within the headlight assembly? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
What gets soldered? The harness I bought (used) plugged in at both ends... I assume you bought the bulb connection and ha to splice the wiring? LarryT 91 300D On 5/5/2013 1:35 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Oh - I almost forgot: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You can get them at NAPA. Whenever I did the relay modification and/or added Euro headlights to a car, I always replaced the headlight lamp socket with these. They are typically in stock at decent sized NAPA stores and used to be about $4 each. Be sure to get the heavy duty ones, as there are standard duty ones as well. They have heavy duty sockets in just about any configuration you need. Here's an example: http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=NW_787108_0328445986 Dan On May 5, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Larry T wrote: Hello -- My '91 300D did the same thing. I bought a used headlight wiring thingie that was about 10 long with the headlight bulb connector on one end and a plug on the other. I removed the bulb, unplugged the bad harness and replaced it with the used harness in about 10 min. I think I paid about $10 or less for my replacement harness. I believe this is not a uncommon problem -- my headlight bulb socket looked like it had melted - like cheese does - it took a distorted shape that did not connect the bulb completely. Maybe Kaleb has a used one? I bought mine from a small junk yard in NC IIRC - Good luck - LarryT 91 30D On 5/5/2013 10:17 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The socket into which the headlight bulb on my brothers 89 300TE plugs in has corroded to the point that it no longer makes good contact with the prongs on the bulb. It looks like it sustained some sort of heat damage at some point and was repaired with epoxy. Is this part of the wiring harness or is it replaceable within the headlight assembly? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
Common replacement item. The corrosion causes heating, which melts the plastic. Solder the new one in place -- they are readily available. DO NOT just twist the wires together and tape, you will have fits with low light output, bulb-out light on all the time, and missing beams. Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
Yes. I bought the socket with the pigtail and had to solder it into the existing wiring. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Larry T wrote: What gets soldered? The harness I bought (used) plugged in at both ends... I assume you bought the bulb connection and ha to splice the wiring? LarryT 91 300D On 5/5/2013 1:35 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Oh - I almost forgot: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You can get them at NAPA. Whenever I did the relay modification and/or added Euro headlights to a car, I always replaced the headlight lamp socket with these. They are typically in stock at decent sized NAPA stores and used to be about $4 each. Be sure to get the heavy duty ones, as there are standard duty ones as well. They have heavy duty sockets in just about any configuration you need. Here's an example: http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=NW_787108_0328445986 Dan On May 5, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Larry T wrote: Hello -- My '91 300D did the same thing. I bought a used headlight wiring thingie that was about 10 long with the headlight bulb connector on one end and a plug on the other. I removed the bulb, unplugged the bad harness and replaced it with the used harness in about 10 min. I think I paid about $10 or less for my replacement harness. I believe this is not a uncommon problem -- my headlight bulb socket looked like it had melted - like cheese does - it took a distorted shape that did not connect the bulb completely. Maybe Kaleb has a used one? I bought mine from a small junk yard in NC IIRC - Good luck - LarryT 91 30D On 5/5/2013 10:17 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The socket into which the headlight bulb on my brothers 89 300TE plugs in has corroded to the point that it no longer makes good contact with the prongs on the bulb. It looks like it sustained some sort of heat damage at some point and was repaired with epoxy. Is this part of the wiring harness or is it replaceable within the headlight assembly? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images
These type expanders were OK for opening the female pipe that had previously been compressed by clamps so it would slip over a new male pipe. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 8 Water Pipe Clamp - Bing Images That was my experience as well - in fact, they didn't even work on after-market new American exhaust tubing. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I tried one of those, wouldn't do a thing with the original MB pipe. I suspect something using hydraulic pressure would be required. Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: There is a pipe expansion tool that you can probably borrow from FLAPS. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Tools-Garage-and-Equipment/Tail -Pipe-Expander/_/N-25fc -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
On May 5, 2013 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Ooh, a soldering vs. crimping thread! Almost as good as an oil thread! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
What is the best kind of solder to use? Natural or synthetic? --R On 5/5/13 3:10 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On May 5, 2013 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Ooh, a soldering vs. crimping thread! Almost as good as an oil thread! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
Check the MB specs: http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/index.php?language_id=1 Dan On May 5, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: What is the best kind of solder to use? Natural or synthetic? --R On 5/5/13 3:10 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On May 5, 2013 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Ooh, a soldering vs. crimping thread! Almost as good as an oil thread! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
So synthetic headlight fluid? --R On 5/5/13 3:18 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Check the MB specs: http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/index.php?language_id=1 Dan On May 5, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: What is the best kind of solder to use? Natural or synthetic? --R On 5/5/13 3:10 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On May 5, 2013 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Ooh, a soldering vs. crimping thread! Almost as good as an oil thread! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 Cruise control
OK, time to solve my '87 300D cruise control problem; it really got old on right leg holding accelerator for long time on trip yesterday; if y'all have any tips, I'll appreciate 'em. For several years it has been hard getting it to engage; then, after getting it to engage, it would hold for a while and finally drop out. Now, I can't get it to engage at all. Amp or something else? 'EPC shows it on fuse # 5, 'seems to be OK; just noticed that stop lamps on same fuse are working OK. BTW, 11 to 12 years ago, before I found you guys, I bought a rebuilt unit for my '81 300D from your buddy, Murphy in TN; still working well when I sold it in '04. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1999 Mercedes E300 Turbodiesel Fuel Injector Leak Issues(UNCLASSIFIED)
Topsider was used twice to do it at home. I finally just had my indy take care of the issue and stopped running high BioD concentrations. These engines are also known to weld in the #6 glow plug. I have had the head off twice to get that dealt with in a decade. The first time was due to cross threading, which repeated the error induced by the prior repair to that glow. That was repaired and retapped, and for unknown reasons, maybe carbon, it sealed itself in again. Past January the car was in the shop for three dead glow plugs (and #6 had failed) so they all came out with the head having to come off and more tapping and the admonition that the GP should probably be tweaked once a year to keep it free. New exhaust manifold gasket each time. clay On May 5, 2013, at 5:06 AM, John Reames wrote: The ones for the OM606 are longer by necessity; making the engine 4 valve per cylinder resulted in the injector being placed between the camshafts, so each one is down in a hole (that is slightly deeper than the injector is long). Draining said holes of accumulated diesel fuel is quite fun. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 4, 2013, at 18:15, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Lengths for the return hoses is very easy; remove old one and cut new one to length to match; often, somebody else has installed one or more excessively long, if so, cut new one a little shorter. A meter's a plenty for complete set. Several years ago, when my tremor was so bad that I could not change the tubes myself, I asked Indy to replace 3 or 4 of 'em on my 350SDL and had left a meter of the hose/tube on center console. Well, I may as well use ALL of it - shonuf - 'used every bit of it on about 4 tubes - way the Hell too long! Trent sells it by meter. Wilton - Original Message - From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 Mercedes E300 Turbodiesel Fuel Injector Leak Issues(UNCLASSIFIED) Wetness around the injectors is still likely to be bypass hoses, unless its up around the nut, in which case the line should be disconnected/reconnected. I believe that you need 2-3 meters of hose for the job, but I haven't done it in a while. (I've got a gauge stick around somewhere though!) The easiest way to get the exact lengths of the hoses is to look them up in the EPC. Wetness around the delivery valves (on the injection pump, which is half hiding under the intake manifold), is a whole separate ball of wax; that will mean re-sealing the delivery valves (which is an annoying, fiddly job) If you will be doing your own maintenance on the car, you might want to leave the vertically-oriented bolt that goes through the tab on the charge air pipe and a bracket before threading into the EGR valve out; it is a MAJOR PITA to get to (there is not even a straight shot from below). You may also want to keep a spare intake manifold gasket around. BTW, I think there's a detailed write-up on the delivery valve reseal floating around. The EPC does NOT list the seals at all for an OM606 of any variant, but they are the same as the ones on an OM601/OM602/OM603. Likewise, WIS does not list a job for re-sealing the valves; dealer procedure is to replace the pump. (This is likely due to the fact that you will have at least a 10% chance of one that needs to be re-done immediately (which of course means the intake manifold has to come back off)) (2x 210.025, 1x 123.133 in the driveway) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 4, 2013, at 14:47, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: Whenever I've had fuel wetness around my injectors, I've been lucky enough that only the fuel return tubes that go from injector-to-injector, etc. (small, cloth-covered, rubber tubes), have been leaking and simply replacing those has cured the leaking/wetness. Are your return tubes dry? He's got the 24v OM606, with its own kind of fuel leaks. They pretty much all do it or have had recent leak repairs. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
The solder doesn't matter so much as the flux ;) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 5, 2013, at 15:16, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: What is the best kind of solder to use? Natural or synthetic? --R On 5/5/13 3:10 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On May 5, 2013 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Ooh, a soldering vs. crimping thread! Almost as good as an oil thread! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
What is the best kind of solder to use? Natural or synthetic? --R 60/40 with real lead ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control
Three weak points: Amplifier, usually cured by stripping off the waterproofing, resoldering, and re-shellacking. Speed sensor in the speedo head. If this is bad, usually the exterior temp gauge sticks since on 87 and later models it locks when standing to prevent heat from the radiator screwing up the reading. Bad switch. Usual problem is the amplifier, but I have a dead sensor on at least on of my cars, just haven't gotten around to replacing it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
On Sun, 5 May 2013 12:10:34 -0700 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On May 5, 2013 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Ooh, a soldering vs. crimping thread! Almost as good as an oil thread! Careful, you will be crimping our style. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control
'Been getting gradually worse for several years. 'Haven't had ext temp reading in the car since soon after I got it 9 years ago. I suspect amp, but any tips on chkng the other suspects? Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control Three weak points: Amplifier, usually cured by stripping off the waterproofing, resoldering, and re-shellacking. Speed sensor in the speedo head. If this is bad, usually the exterior temp gauge sticks since on 87 and later models it locks when standing to prevent heat from the radiator screwing up the reading. Bad switch. Usual problem is the amplifier, but I have a dead sensor on at least on of my cars, just haven't gotten around to replacing it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
IMO the progressive tax code should be illegal. Just because someone is wealthy is no reason to tax them at a higher rate. Actually the tax codes as sold to the public just before 1916 was said to only apply to the very wealthy. You can see how long that lasted. It's always easier to point to the rich guys (who are always fewer in number than the masses) and convince those with less finances how evil the wealthy are for no other reason than they have more money. Tax rates and ticket costs should be the same for everyone. Just because the socialist in Europe are doing it doesn't mean it's right. Just because the wealthy have more money doesn't mean they should spend more on the government and all the stupid things they like to spend our taxes on. The government does so many things they have no business doing it's no wonder we're trillions in debt. Things like peanut allotments which do nothing but keep prices high, cotton and diary products get the same treatment. The govt is tossing suply and demand in order to manage production. And in return those industries donate huge dollars to get the people elected who will continue these and other practices. Back to progressive laws that punish the wealthy more than others. There is no reason to tax the rich at higher rates than everyone else. So there :-P LarryT On 5/3/2013 8:51 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: What is the basis of the implied assumption that the rich (generally understood to mean anyone with more than me) should not have the same Constitutional protections as the poor? Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it be way fairer to soak the rich through application of a progressive tax code, rather than burdening those who can least afford to pay these fines, as a means of shouldering the cost of governing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control
My bet is on the amplifier, but following the diagnostic steps on Jim Cathy's website will isolate the faulty component. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: OK, time to solve my '87 300D cruise control problem; it really got old on right leg holding accelerator for long time on trip yesterday; if y'all have any tips, I'll appreciate 'em. For several years it has been hard getting it to engage; then, after getting it to engage, it would hold for a while and finally drop out. Now, I can't get it to engage at all. Amp or something else? 'EPC shows it on fuse # 5, 'seems to be OK; just noticed that stop lamps on same fuse are working OK. BTW, 11 to 12 years ago, before I found you guys, I bought a rebuilt unit for my '81 300D from your buddy, Murphy in TN; still working well when I sold it in '04. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control
Thnks for reminder Jim's site; I'll try to find it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control My bet is on the amplifier, but following the diagnostic steps on Jim Cathy's website will isolate the faulty component. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: OK, time to solve my '87 300D cruise control problem; it really got old on right leg holding accelerator for long time on trip yesterday; if y'all have any tips, I'll appreciate 'em. For several years it has been hard getting it to engage; then, after getting it to engage, it would hold for a while and finally drop out. Now, I can't get it to engage at all. Amp or something else? 'EPC shows it on fuse # 5, 'seems to be OK; just noticed that stop lamps on same fuse are working OK. BTW, 11 to 12 years ago, before I found you guys, I bought a rebuilt unit for my '81 300D from your buddy, Murphy in TN; still working well when I sold it in '04. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
On Sun, 05 May 2013 18:12:02 -0400 Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Just because the wealthy have more money doesn't mean they should spend more on the government and all the stupid things they like to spend our taxes on. With the same tax rate for all, the wealthy WILL spend more money on the government, because they make more money. That should be a, Duh!, but with the class warfare the elite seek to incite, it seems to be forgotten easily. Craig P.S. That also assumes reasonable tax codes without loopholes. A flat tax with a credit for low income folks seems best. Or maybe even return to the original way of funding, excise taxes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
I prefer 63/37, with real lead; it's an eutectic alloy, so it means no plastic state between melting and flowing. It makes it very difficult to get a cold joint (say from a wire moving at just the wrong moment... Don't forget the layers of heatshrink (one layer if its glue-filled) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 5, 2013, at 16:31, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What is the best kind of solder to use? Natural or synthetic? --R 60/40 with real lead ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
does it appear to be OE quality (or /lack /of it) ;-) Larry On 5/5/2013 2:46 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Yes. I bought the socket with the pigtail and had to solder it into the existing wiring. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Larry T wrote: What gets soldered? The harness I bought (used) plugged in at both ends... I assume you bought the bulb connection and ha to splice the wiring? LarryT 91 300D On 5/5/2013 1:35 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Oh - I almost forgot: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: You can get them at NAPA. Whenever I did the relay modification and/or added Euro headlights to a car, I always replaced the headlight lamp socket with these. They are typically in stock at decent sized NAPA stores and used to be about $4 each. Be sure to get the heavy duty ones, as there are standard duty ones as well. They have heavy duty sockets in just about any configuration you need. Here's an example: http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=NW_787108_0328445986 Dan On May 5, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Larry T wrote: Hello -- My '91 300D did the same thing. I bought a used headlight wiring thingie that was about 10 long with the headlight bulb connector on one end and a plug on the other. I removed the bulb, unplugged the bad harness and replaced it with the used harness in about 10 min. I think I paid about $10 or less for my replacement harness. I believe this is not a uncommon problem -- my headlight bulb socket looked like it had melted - like cheese does - it took a distorted shape that did not connect the bulb completely. Maybe Kaleb has a used one? I bought mine from a small junk yard in NC IIRC - Good luck - LarryT 91 30D On 5/5/2013 10:17 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The socket into which the headlight bulb on my brothers 89 300TE plugs in has corroded to the point that it no longer makes good contact with the prongs on the bulb. It looks like it sustained some sort of heat damage at some point and was repaired with epoxy. Is this part of the wiring harness or is it replaceable within the headlight assembly? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] starship
Hi All. I always wondered what happened to them. IIRC, they had amazing performance. The FAA exhibits monarch type legislative oversight - likely rightfully so. The FAA is responsible for a large number of airplanes and by extension, passengers.Back when I was taking flying lessons i was always amazed at the extent of thought they put into the legislation.. Of course the need is obvious. Of course, 30+ years ago things were a little simpler with fewer space age materials available to the general public.I would think the F1 racing experience would help the Starship get farther along the legislative trail. They use composites for everything except engine and trans blocks I believe. Of course there are some internal parts engine/tranny parts that do not lend themselves to composites. But the technology has been well documented and tested - of course, getting the various groups to release proprietary information may be a tough row to hoe. Hopefully, sometime in the future, we'll see further acceptance in the General Aviation market. LarryT On 5/4/2013 10:48 PM, G Mann wrote: Nothing. The problem was, the entire fleet sold only made a bit more than 50 airplanes. The certification of an all composite airplane had never been done [Beech spent millions and millions getting past FAA] and the FAA has no basis to establish service life on the composite parts, like wing spars, for example. The requirement to continue to supply service and parts exceeded the profit potential for the fleet, no new sales or production was going to happen, so Beech did the only thing it could to save it's ass, it bought them all back. Short story, huge money involved, excellent aircraft, those who flew them or owned them loved them. It's my information they are all setting stored someplace, still. Grant... On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:37 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: What was wrong with them? On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 8:10 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: All Starships were removed from service, Beachcraft bought them all back and retired them.. except one. The owner refused to sell it back and continues to use it. I believe it is the only flying Starship. Very good fellow pilot friend is a certified Starship pilot and flew them for years in corporate use. The information comes from him and I consider it reliable. I'll verify it with a phone call later tonight. Likely, he knows both the airplane and the crew. Grant... -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control
It would appear to be classic symptoms of failing solders on the amp. Did mine just after I bought the 124 and it worked, however a jumpy speedo made using the CC a bit of a pain, which I have now fixed by replacing the speedo cable. Hendrik who likes his CC On 06/05/13 07:46, Max wrote: My bet is on the amplifier, but following the diagnostic steps on Jim Cathy's website will isolate the faulty component. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
Yep. I'm all for a national sales tax but only *_IF _*the 16th amendment is repealed. If not, sure as i love my MB, we'd soon be taxed both with a sales and income tax. I can hear it now, We need to do it for the children. or just as likely We need to pass this bill to find out what's in it. Give me a break. puulease. one more thing on taxes and I'll stop - Everyone uses the infrastructure. Everyone enjoys the protection of the military. with those 2 things in mind, everyone should share in the expense - which I believe a National Sales Tax or Flat tax would do - no deductions, etc. While the real estate PAC's (as well as others) will wring their hands and say people will no longer be able to afford homes, but imo the pacs would better use their time to educate prospective buyers by telling them they'll be paying less overall taxes so they'll be better to afford higher payments. Along with repealing the 16th Amendment, the states should follow suit and repeal all taxes except for a statewide sales tax - no more Personal Property tax, real estate tax, auto tax, gas tax, tolls, etc. -- there are so many embedded taxes we cannot possible keep them all straight. The tax situation in this country (and others too I am sure) is so muddled as to be completely impossible to decipher. LarryT LarryT On 5/5/2013 6:43 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 05 May 2013 18:12:02 -0400 Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Just because the wealthy have more money doesn't mean they should spend more on the government and all the stupid things they like to spend our taxes on. With the same tax rate for all, the wealthy WILL spend more money on the government, because they make more money. That should be a, Duh!, but with the class warfare the elite seek to incite, it seems to be forgotten easily. Craig P.S. That also assumes reasonable tax codes without loopholes. A flat tax with a credit for low income folks seems best. Or maybe even return to the original way of funding, excise taxes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cabin crew fly plane while captain snoozes in business class
Two pilots with Air India have been suspended after they caused a near-disaster by allowing members of the cabin crew to fly their jet for 40 minutes while one took a toilet break - and the captain went for a snooze in business class. The pilots were forced to dash back into the cockpit after the female cabin crew disconnected the auto-pilot in mid flight. incident is reported to have happened as the Air India Airbus 321 flew from Bangkok to New Delhi on April 12. According to reports, the near-disaster happened at 33,000 feet. Thirty minutes after take of from Bangkok, the plane's first officer asked a stewardess to sit in his seat while he took a toilet break. Minutes later the captain invited a second cabin crew member in to the cockpit while he went for a sleep in business class. The pilots were forced to rush back to the cockpit after one of the women accidentally disengaged the auto pilot. The scene was witnessed by a member of Air India's management, who reported the incident. The pilots and the cabin crew have now been suspended, Air India told local media. The flight had 166 passengers on board. http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/news/international/2013/05/03/air-india-pilots-let-cabin-crew-fly-plane-for-40-minutes/ Are modern jets physically designed to more or less maintain level flight if the autopilot is disconnected and there are no control inputs? I seem to remember that some singles advertised that capability years ago. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bursts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
It's called a value added tax, or VAT. Common in the EU and other places. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Larry T wrote: Yep. I'm all for a national sales tax but only *_IF _*the 16th amendment is repealed. If not, sure as i love my MB, we'd soon be taxed both with a sales and income tax. I can hear it now, We need to do it for the children. or just as likely We need to pass this bill to find out what's in it. Give me a break. puulease. one more thing on taxes and I'll stop - Everyone uses the infrastructure. Everyone enjoys the protection of the military. with those 2 things in mind, everyone should share in the expense - which I believe a National Sales Tax or Flat tax would do - no deductions, etc. While the real estate PAC's (as well as others) will wring their hands and say people will no longer be able to afford homes, but imo the pacs would better use their time to educate prospective buyers by telling them they'll be paying less overall taxes so they'll be better to afford higher payments. Along with repealing the 16th Amendment, the states should follow suit and repeal all taxes except for a statewide sales tax - no more Personal Property tax, real estate tax, auto tax, gas tax, tolls, etc. -- there are so many embedded taxes we cannot possible keep them all straight. The tax situation in this country (and others too I am sure) is so muddled as to be completely impossible to decipher. LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control
On Mon, 06 May 2013 09:10:25 +0930 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: It would appear to be classic symptoms of failing solders on the amp. Did mine just after I bought the 124 and it worked, however a jumpy speedo made using the CC a bit of a pain, which I have now fixed by replacing the speedo cable. I thought 124s had electronic speedometers with no cable. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
Ford town car clay On May 5, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bursts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control
Can somebody remind me the Cathey website address, please? 'Thought it may be cathey.dogear.com or something like that. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control My bet is on the amplifier, but following the diagnostic steps on Jim Cathy's website will isolate the faulty component. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: OK, time to solve my '87 300D cruise control problem; it really got old on right leg holding accelerator for long time on trip yesterday; if y'all have any tips, I'll appreciate 'em. For several years it has been hard getting it to engage; then, after getting it to engage, it would hold for a while and finally drop out. Now, I can't get it to engage at all. Amp or something else? 'EPC shows it on fuse # 5, 'seems to be OK; just noticed that stop lamps on same fuse are working OK. BTW, 11 to 12 years ago, before I found you guys, I bought a rebuilt unit for my '81 300D from your buddy, Murphy in TN; still working well when I sold it in '04. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
The tax situation in this country (and others too I am sure) is so muddled as to be completely impossible to decipher. LarryT THAT IS NO ACCIDENT. IT IS BY INTENT. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
It's called a value added tax, or VAT. Common in the EU and other places. Dan NO! A VAT is insidious. VAT is added every time a raw material, part or component is handled. A flat tax on income is direct and understandable. A tax on retail sales is also direct and understandable. VAT greatly favors vertically integrated companies., as they start with raw ingredients and if they sell directly at retail, there are only two VATs on the finished product, on raw materials, and again on the retail sale. Take an auto for example. Many tiers of suppliers, each with several levels of VAT. The VAT becomes a MAJOR component of the retail price. VAT sucks bigtime. It is a big reason why you don't buy a lot of products from UK and former crown colonies, who nearly all have VAT taxes, driving up prices. Is this why Hendrik has to pay obnoxious prices for parts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLcruise.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwcruise.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/%7Ejimc/cwcruise.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/%7Ejimc/mamerepairs.html The dogear one http://cathey.dogear.com/JSLcruise.html not working On 06/05/13 09:36, WILTON wrote: Can somebody remind me the Cathey website address, please? 'Thought it may be cathey.dogear.com or something like that. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue raising
It's called a GST here, which stands for Grab Take Snatch. It's not the only reason why parts are more expensive here, the reason is volume, shipping costs and competition. Hendrik who is a collector of GST and needs to do his 1/4ly BAS On 06/05/13 09:45, Dieselhead wrote: It's called a value added tax, or VAT. Common in the EU and other places. Dan NO! A VAT is insidious. VAT is added every time a raw material, part or component is handled. A flat tax on income is direct and understandable. A tax on retail sales is also direct and understandable. VAT greatly favors vertically integrated companies., as they start with raw ingredients and if they sell directly at retail, there are only two VATs on the finished product, on raw materials, and again on the retail sale. Take an auto for example. Many tiers of suppliers, each with several levels of VAT. The VAT becomes a MAJOR component of the retail price. VAT sucks bigtime. It is a big reason why you don't buy a lot of products from UK and former crown colonies, who nearly all have VAT taxes, driving up prices. Is this why Hendrik has to pay obnoxious prices for parts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
I do both! On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On May 5, 2013 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Ooh, a soldering vs. crimping thread! Almost as good as an oil thread! Alex -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control old school
My memory tells me only the V8 124's had electronic. I am thinking the 126 might have had electronic and the 202 and 210 had electronic. Hendrik who definitely did not change a electronic cable On 06/05/13 09:14, Craig wrote: On Mon, 06 May 2013 09:10:25 +0930 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: It would appear to be classic symptoms of failing solders on the amp. Did mine just after I bought the 124 and it worked, however a jumpy speedo made using the CC a bit of a pain, which I have now fixed by replacing the speedo cable. I thought 124s had electronic speedometers with no cable. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control old school
The W126 had electronic speedo. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: My memory tells me only the V8 124's had electronic. I am thinking the 126 might have had electronic and the 202 and 210 had electronic. Hendrik who definitely did not change a electronic cable On 06/05/13 09:14, Craig wrote: On Mon, 06 May 2013 09:10:25 +0930 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: It would appear to be classic symptoms of failing solders on the amp. Did mine just after I bought the 124 and it worked, however a jumpy speedo made using the CC a bit of a pain, which I have now fixed by replacing the speedo cable. I thought 124s had electronic speedometers with no cable. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cabin crew fly plane while captain snoozes in business class
Huh? A 40 minute pit stop?? I betcha the first officer was selling phone plans. Hendrik who does not like telemarketers On 06/05/13 07:55, Gerry Archer wrote: Two pilots with Air India have been suspended after they caused a near-disaster by allowing members of the cabin crew to fly their jet for 40 minutes while one took a toilet break - and the captain went for a snooze in business class. The pilots were forced to dash back into the cockpit after the female cabin crew disconnected the auto-pilot in mid flight. incident is reported to have happened as the Air India Airbus 321 flew from Bangkok to New Delhi on April 12. According to reports, the near-disaster happened at 33,000 feet. Thirty minutes after take of from Bangkok, the plane's first officer asked a stewardess to sit in his seat while he took a toilet break. Minutes later the captain invited a second cabin crew member in to the cockpit while he went for a sleep in business class. The pilots were forced to rush back to the cockpit after one of the women accidentally disengaged the auto pilot. The scene was witnessed by a member of Air India's management, who reported the incident. The pilots and the cabin crew have now been suspended, Air India told local media. The flight had 166 passengers on board. http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/news/international/2013/05/03/air-india-pilots-let-cabin-crew-fly-plane-for-40-minutes/ Are modern jets physically designed to more or less maintain level flight if the autopilot is disconnected and there are no control inputs? I seem to remember that some singles advertised that capability years ago. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control old school
126 is electronic. My memory tells me only the V8 124's had electronic. I am thinking the 126 might have had electronic and the 202 and 210 had electronic. Hendrik who definitely did not change a electronic cable On 06/05/13 09:14, Craig wrote: On Mon, 06 May 2013 09:10:25 +0930 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: It would appear to be classic symptoms of failing solders on the amp. Did mine just after I bought the 124 and it worked, however a jumpy speedo made using the CC a bit of a pain, which I have now fixed by replacing the speedo cable. I thought 124s had electronic speedometers with no cable. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
Yep. Sure enough a Lincoln Town Car. Mike On May 5, 2013 8:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Ford town car clay On May 5, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bursts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control old school
Mine still does. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control old school The W126 had electronic speedo. Dan On May 5, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: My memory tells me only the V8 124's had electronic. I am thinking the 126 might have had electronic and the 202 and 210 had electronic. Hendrik who definitely did not change a electronic cable On 06/05/13 09:14, Craig wrote: On Mon, 06 May 2013 09:10:25 +0930 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: It would appear to be classic symptoms of failing solders on the amp. Did mine just after I bought the 124 and it worked, however a jumpy speedo made using the CC a bit of a pain, which I have now fixed by replacing the speedo cable. I thought 124s had electronic speedometers with no cable. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control
Thnks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Cruise control http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSLcruise.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwcruise.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/%7Ejimc/cwcruise.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/%7Ejimc/mamerepairs.html The dogear one http://cathey.dogear.com/JSLcruise.html not working On 06/05/13 09:36, WILTON wrote: Can somebody remind me the Cathey website address, please? 'Thought it may be cathey.dogear.com or something like that. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
On May 5, 2013, at 7:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I do both! On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On May 5, 2013 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Ooh, a soldering vs. crimping thread! Almost as good as an oil thread! Alex IIRC, a friend who has an AP license told me they crimp connections on aircraft, because solder is prone to fail. Sounded like BS to me though. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
Speaking of wiring, I have to modify the wiring to the tachometer in my '66 MGB to convert the polarization from Pos gnd to Neg gnd and the official method recommended is to use a Lineman's Splice. Found it on Wiki and thought it looked pretty robust do a search let me know I'll probably splice and Solder too Don... ;-) LarryT '91 300D On 5/5/2013 10:01 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On May 5, 2013, at 7:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I do both! On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On May 5, 2013 10:35 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Solder, do not crimp, the connections. Otherwise you're wasting your time. Ooh, a soldering vs. crimping thread! Almost as good as an oil thread! Alex IIRC, a friend who has an AP license told me they crimp connections on aircraft, because solder is prone to fail. Sounded like BS to me though. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cabin crew fly plane while captain snoozes in business class
So that's the guy who keeps calling at Dinner time! LarryT On 5/5/2013 9:12 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: Huh? A 40 minute pit stop?? I betcha the first officer was selling phone plans. Hendrik who does not like telemarketers On 06/05/13 07:55, Gerry Archer wrote: Two pilots with Air India have been suspended after they caused a near-disaster by allowing members of the cabin crew to fly their jet for 40 minutes while one took a toilet break - and the captain went for a snooze in business class. The pilots were forced to dash back into the cockpit after the female cabin crew disconnected the auto-pilot in mid flight. incident is reported to have happened as the Air India Airbus 321 flew from Bangkok to New Delhi on April 12. According to reports, the near-disaster happened at 33,000 feet. Thirty minutes after take of from Bangkok, the plane's first officer asked a stewardess to sit in his seat while he took a toilet break. Minutes later the captain invited a second cabin crew member in to the cockpit while he went for a sleep in business class. The pilots were forced to rush back to the cockpit after one of the women accidentally disengaged the auto pilot. The scene was witnessed by a member of Air India's management, who reported the incident. The pilots and the cabin crew have now been suspended, Air India told local media. The flight had 166 passengers on board. http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/news/international/2013/05/03/air-india-pilots-let-cabin-crew-fly-plane-for-40-minutes/ Are modern jets physically designed to more or less maintain level flight if the autopilot is disconnected and there are no control inputs? I seem to remember that some singles advertised that capability years ago. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba
I may have to unsubscribe now, thanks Kleb. So much for friendship. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba Forget about Trent check autohausaz Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: BuyMBParts is which? The page is telling me parts for 1980 240Ds are not stocked and must be special ordered. Nice. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba
Correct. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:56 PM To: Bob Rentfro; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba BuyMBParts.com used to be Rusty, but he lost it somehow in the divorce from Hursty, it got sold, and is now a front for something else. BuyMBParts.biz is Trent, formerly Rusty. BuyEuroParts.com is Hursty. Both websites, AFAIK, are just the online WorldPac catalog, which is not everything that is available. You are better off calling. Or that's how it was with Rusty, anyway. Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com writes: BuyMBParts is which? The page is telling me parts for 1980 240Ds are not stocked and must be special ordered. Nice. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba
Rusty...you cannot feel responsible for what Trent is doind with what you sold him. If Klebby and some others don't like what Trent is doing and they want to take their busniess elsewhere it's not your fault. Bob R On May 5, 2013 7:58 PM, Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.com wrote: I may have to unsubscribe now, thanks Kleb. So much for friendship. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba Forget about Trent check autohausaz Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: BuyMBParts is which? The page is telling me parts for 1980 240Ds are not stocked and must be special ordered. Nice. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
a BIG part I suspect! the only thing worse than the USA's 60,000 page (or whatever) tax code is europe's VAT! Value Added my butt! the only perceived value is the govt's taking the peasants money! and its all in favor of the govt. -- dieselhead described it perfectly! the govt is salivating over the prospect of being able to tax internet sales! they were slowed recently but its a temporary bump in the road for them... they'll get their nose under the tent, then steal the freakin' tent! you can quote me ;-) LarryT On 5/5/2013 8:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Is this why Hendrik has to pay obnoxious prices for parts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
On May 5, 2013, at 7:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I do both! Wow! A belt and suspenders man! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba
Rob's right, Rusty -- Once sold, best to turn and walk away or you will keep being frustrated...You can no longer steer the ship as they say... Gotta let it go and hope for the best -- in the end you probably came out better than anyone else -- don't worry about us (think about how much less you need worry about) - we can see how you were always there helping us when we needed parts and advice. i hope you are in retirement now and enjoying it? LarryT On 5/5/2013 11:03 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Rusty...you cannot feel responsible for what Trent is doind with what you sold him. If Klebby and some others don't like what Trent is doing and they want to take their busniess elsewhere it's not your fault. Bob R On May 5, 2013 7:58 PM, Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.com wrote: I may have to unsubscribe now, thanks Kleb. So much for friendship. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba Forget about Trent check autohausaz Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: BuyMBParts is which? The page is telling me parts for 1980 240Ds are not stocked and must be special ordered. Nice. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba
'Gonna give Trent a chance tomorrow. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba Rob's right, Rusty -- Once sold, best to turn and walk away or you will keep being frustrated... You can no longer steer the ship as they say... Gotta let it go and hope for the best -- in the end you probably came out better than anyone else -- don't worry about us (think about how much less you need worry about) - we can see how you were always there helping us when we needed parts and advice. i hope you are in retirement now and enjoying it? LarryT On 5/5/2013 11:03 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Rusty...you cannot feel responsible for what Trent is doind with what you sold him. If Klebby and some others don't like what Trent is doing and they want to take their busniess elsewhere it's not your fault. Bob R On May 5, 2013 7:58 PM, Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.com wrote: I may have to unsubscribe now, thanks Kleb. So much for friendship. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba Forget about Trent check autohausaz Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: BuyMBParts is which? The page is telling me parts for 1980 240Ds are not stocked and must be special ordered. Nice. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
a BIG part I suspect! the only thing worse than the USA's 60,000 page (or whatever) tax code is europe's VAT! Value Added my butt! the only perceived value is the govt's taking the peasants money! and its all in favor of the govt. -- dieselhead described it perfectly! the govt is salivating over the prospect of being able to tax internet sales! they were slowed recently but its a temporary bump in the road for them... they'll get their nose under the tent, then steal the freakin' tent! you can quote me ;-) LarryT Time to cut off their hands (or is it noses in Larry's example?) There is historical precedent for cutting off the hand of thieves. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
True, for the most part. Solder beyond the connector (in the wire) can cause the flexing from vibration to work harden the wire at the end of the solder, resulting in a break. IF you can keep the solder within the connector/crimp area and NOT wick any past that point, you will have a better electrical connection at no increased risk. The plastic insulator beyond the metal crimp is also a support for controlling where/how much the wire flexes. It is often supplimented with varying sizes and lengths of heat shrink tubing. Some connections, inside a DB25 for example, about HAVE to be soldered. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: IIRC, a friend who has an AP license told me they crimp connections on aircraft, because solder is prone to fail. Sounded like BS to me though. Rick -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
I should add in appropriate situations. I was taught early on that you never rely on solder for a physical/stress connection, and never rely on a physical connection for good contact. Made sense to me --- On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I do both! Wow! A belt and suspenders man! -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
Ah, yes. Are you proposing that we impose Shariah law??? However, we voted those theives into office --- who's to blame??? On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Time to cut off their hands (or is it noses in Larry's example?) There is historical precedent for cutting off the hand of thieves. -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 headlight bulb connector
I should add in appropriate situations. I was taught early on that you never rely on solder for a physical/stress connection, and never rely on a physical connection for good contact. Made sense to me --- On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I do both! Wow! A belt and suspenders man! Just funin' ya! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba
But Rusty needs Trent to do well so that Trent can continue to pay him for the business. Trent should have done a bit more research on just what he was taking on and how to take care of the blue sky and reputation that Rusty had built up. clay On May 5, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Larry T wrote: Rob's right, Rusty -- Once sold, best to turn and walk away or you will keep being frustrated... You can no longer steer the ship as they say... Gotta let it go and hope for the best -- in the end you probably came out better than anyone else -- don't worry about us (think about how much less you need worry about) - we can see how you were always there helping us when we needed parts and advice. i hope you are in retirement now and enjoying it? LarryT On 5/5/2013 11:03 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Rusty...you cannot feel responsible for what Trent is doind with what you sold him. If Klebby and some others don't like what Trent is doing and they want to take their busniess elsewhere it's not your fault. Bob R On May 5, 2013 7:58 PM, Rusty Cullens rustycull...@gmail.com wrote: I may have to unsubscribe now, thanks Kleb. So much for friendship. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trent/Jabba Forget about Trent check autohausaz Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: BuyMBParts is which? The page is telling me parts for 1980 240Ds are not stocked and must be special ordered. Nice. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Speeding and revenue
Ah, yes. Are you proposing that we impose s_ law??? However, we voted those theives into office --- who's to blame??? On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Time to cut off their hands (or is it noses in Larry's example?) There is historical precedent for cutting off the hand of thieves. -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A Nope. I believe the practice far predates the profet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Benz techopR0n
Like magic! Thought this was pretty neat too! http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/03/mercedes-benz-s-class-perfume/ On 5/5/2013 12:49 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/05/laser-suspension/ --R -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
