Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
The easiest way to test the health of the rear suspension is done by checking
the camber of the rear tires.
If the camber exceeds spec, time to overhaul all those links and bushings.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Sent: April 1, 2014 11:06:00 PM EDT
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
What should mech. and I look for on my 124 ('87 300D w/135 kmi) rear suspension
tomorrow afternoon? Loose or worn stuff, that is. Car has felt squirrelly
recently; pumped up tires a bit; 'found rt. rear slightly low. 'Drives a
little better.
Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
I would offer that if any bushing is visually unsound, all the rest are not far behind... -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sent: April 2, 2014 12:10:01 AM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension Here's the drill: ANY link with a displaced center or shreds of rubber needs to be replaced. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
i find younger people think more like us. they know doctors and schools and wars and et al are frauds to exploit them and many are opting out of playing this game. but first the dinosaurs must die On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: we are alone here in our perspective, gordon. we wear the snowy river hat and walk the snowy river walk. Okay, we can do that - it's good company. Anyone else? Tell us this is not the american way? I say it is part of the JFK ask what you can do for your country. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
Because they would waste less bandwidth. If everyone would just quit complaining and arguing that would save a lot. And then there is the little button that looks like a trash can. Guess it would have been much easier than all of this typing. Mike On Apr 1, 2014 6:22 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
carter is looking better every day. history will view him as the last real president and not just a stooge for wall street On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Van Knutson wrote: The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
hey, all my posts are moderated by kleb and poos, so i'm by definition kosher in everything you see but it is mainly a political list, a neocon rag when i showed up, but now carrying a more radical bent as gordon doesn't need to cover the anarchist side alone as i'm here now it's an improvement at least On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:22 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] weekend projects
Any kind of improvisation deserves an attaboy IMO. Gerrynever a purist. 'Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net I fixed one of the regulators on the TD with a small bolt but I had to grind the top and nut off a bit to get it to clear the other bits. --R Pushed the rivet in the hole, and it popped right out. Anvil, cold chisel, BFH. I used the point of the tipped-back anvil in the slider, and whacked chisel into the button with the BFH to embed a cross in the button, spreading out the metal.Still there! (Had to remove regulator from door to do all this, and enlist a second set of hands.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] at first this seemed like a decent car
That collapsed RF wheel sorta screams RUN DON'T WALK to me... -MMM- On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: but it appears to have much rust, and what the heck happened to the door panels. Still interesting. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series- 300SEL-4-5-early-prod-unit-63-1972-Mercedes-300SEL-4- 5-W109-grey-blue-/281300398572?forcerrptr=truehash=item417ecf71ecitem= 281300398572pt=US_Cars_Trucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
I would offer that if any bushing is visually unsound, all the rest are not far behind... -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC THe subframe bushings on mine were not visibly bad, but the car was scary squirrelly, even with all now links and bushings in the links. New subframe bushings turned it into a great handling car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
My religion is best. All others suck:) Hahahaha! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:22 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Henifay is such a buzz killer. --R On 4/1/14 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] A Most Momentous Birthday
Today is Dr. Demento's Birthday. Oh happy day. I wonder how many long nights I spent listening to him. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] A Most Momentous Birthday
I was just humming Fish Heads the other day Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Today is Dr. Demento's Birthday. Oh happy day. I wonder how many long nights I spent listening to him. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world all other countries are run by little girls On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:57 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My religion is best. All others suck:) Hahahaha! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:22 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs
Dwight wrote: I hope the list can maintain some of this diesel wrenching tradition even as it overhauls education health care. If we all applied the same degree of logic and documentation to politics, medicine, and other controversial subjects that we apply to Mercedes repair, there would be a great improvement in non-Mercedes discussions. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hey Andrew!
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:14:09 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Did you get the offlist messages I sent you about the wheels? Re-sent yesterday again since I never got any response. Are you mad at me? He may be blocking your emails and thus won't see them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
SNIP The question is how? Abolishing the US Depart of Education would be a good start. Agree. Common Core; would be a great idea if the focus was re-training the teachers on the basic principles of the foundation of USA instead of socialist indoctrination of all children. We have, through lack of action by Citizens, allowed US Department of Education to produce an entire generation of uneducated and for all practical purposes unemployable youth. College graduates are currently the highest unemployed [per capita for their category] in the entire country. Per capita, USA spends more per student than any other country, and has for 40 years running... Worldwide, USA ranks far below first in student performance.. so more money is not the answer. Example: The immigration law firm I'm part of is in need of 6 law clerks. To date, we have taken over 300 applications. These applications are submitted by college graduates. The applications are so full of spelling and syntax errors I have taken to the practice of marking them with red pencil and returning them with comments [some quite to the point]. These are people who have paid for college education, and still can not spell or demonstrate use of basic communication skills in a professional environment. Sadly, it becomes my duty to damage their self esteem, it seems I'm the first in their young lives to tell them they fail. Abysmal hardly says enough. 12 years of public or private school, 4 years of law school, $200,000 in student loans and Would you like fries with that order? is the apex of their work talent. Somewhere, those teaching and those setting the standards for teaching need their self esteem re-adjusted. Token Mercedes Content: All my Mercedes are working as designed, perfectly. Oil of choice continues to preform to satisfaction. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: IMO, it's time (well, long past time) to bust the trusts of the education monopoly. The question is how? Abolishing the US Depart of Education would be a good start. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so... First, for the record, I'm old, kids are out of college and I'm out of the kids in school business. However, I belong to a group of people who have taken the time to actually read the books which are to be used to teach the common core classrooms. If you were educated any time before 1990 you WOULD NOT BELIEVE what these books hold. History has been re-written. The books are populated with anti-american bias that will set your teeth on edge, unless you are a radical islamic or a committed communist... then you will be so happy. By the way, the Powers That Be would not release the books to us for study.. we had to go there, set and read through them in place like it was some government secret what children would be taught. The over reach attitude did not set well. It was I'm from government and I own your children. We will do what we want to them from the first moment. Very high concern was reflected by the entire group. This is not the direction we want American children to be lead into if America is to survive as the Greatest and Richest Nation in recorded history. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
I share Dan and Gary's characterization of Jimmy Carter's administration. The Camp David Accord has endured into a lasting peace between Egypt and Israel. Amen to that. His envoironmental record was also pretty stellar. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: carter is looking better every day. history will view him as the last real president and not just a stooge for wall street On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Van Knutson wrote: The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
The applications are so full of spelling and syntax errors I have taken to the practice of marking them with red pencil and returning them... Yes! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] at first this seemed like a decent car
Three obvious problems with this car: 1. No sunroof 2. Scary rust at bottom of doors. 3. Looks like someone vandalized the interior. I might be interested at a lower price, say $1500.00 otps On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:54 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: That collapsed RF wheel sorta screams RUN DON'T WALK to me... -MMM- On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: but it appears to have much rust, and what the heck happened to the door panels. Still interesting. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series- 300SEL-4-5-early-prod-unit-63-1972-Mercedes-300SEL-4- 5-W109-grey-blue-/281300398572?forcerrptr=truehash=item417ecf71ecitem= 281300398572pt=US_Cars_Trucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
My battery is good, btw. The remaining mystery is what caused it go go totally dead. I will monitor/start it every few days from now on... On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Henifay is such a buzz killer. --R On 4/1/14 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
Dimitri is Archdeacon of the Massachusettes synod of the Church of the Holy Welder - Reformer. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:57 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My religion is best. All others suck:) Hahahaha! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:22 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] at first this seemed like a decent car
No sunroof a problem? 'sounds great to me, 'less you mean the panel is missing leaving a big hole in the roof. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] at first this seemed like a decent car Three obvious problems with this car: 1. No sunroof 2. Scary rust at bottom of doors. 3. Looks like someone vandalized the interior. I might be interested at a lower price, say $1500.00 otps On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:54 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.comwrote: That collapsed RF wheel sorta screams RUN DON'T WALK to me... -MMM- On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: but it appears to have much rust, and what the heck happened to the door panels. Still interesting. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series- 300SEL-4-5-early-prod-unit-63-1972-Mercedes-300SEL-4- 5-W109-grey-blue-/281300398572?forcerrptr=truehash=item417ecf71ecitem= 281300398572pt=US_Cars_Trucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 115 low oil pressure
There wasn't a lot of blowby when the car left California. It started showing low oil pressure in Nevada on the way from California. It got logarithmically worse. By the time he got to OK it was to the point it is now, and it got so bad that it seemed to risky to drive it. He went to Silver Star Motors and they inspected filter and found what they said were main bearing shavings. Not sure if they drained all the oil or not. The. It was towed to meet you, Kaleb. The following are new: -Michelins and alignment -driver's seat pads (front pads available from GAHH; rear bottom pad IIRC still avail from MB $195) -windshield seal (genuine MB with correct MB flexible liquid sealant) -flex discs and centre support bearing and mount (all original MB) -front subframe mounts -transmission mount -pretty sure he did engine mounts -MB coolant -ATF and filter kit -fuel filters -belts -valve adjustment ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Glow plug relay first thing to check. --R On 4/2/14 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My battery is good, btw. The remaining mystery is what caused it go go totally dead. I will monitor/start it every few days from now on... On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Henifay is such a buzz killer. --R On 4/1/14 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] at first this seemed like a decent car
LOL! I always get a rise from Wilton when I extol the virutes of a s/r. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:42 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: No sunroof a problem? 'sounds great to me, 'less you mean the panel is missing leaving a big hole in the roof. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] at first this seemed like a decent car Three obvious problems with this car: 1. No sunroof 2. Scary rust at bottom of doors. 3. Looks like someone vandalized the interior. I might be interested at a lower price, say $1500.00 otps On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 6:54 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: That collapsed RF wheel sorta screams RUN DON'T WALK to me... -MMM- On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: but it appears to have much rust, and what the heck happened to the door panels. Still interesting. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series- 300SEL-4-5-early-prod-unit-63-1972-Mercedes-300SEL-4- 5-W109-grey-blue-/281300398572?forcerrptr=true hash=item417ecf71ecitem= 281300398572pt=US_Cars_Trucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
How would the GP relay drain the battery but not start the car? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Glow plug relay first thing to check. --R On 4/2/14 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My battery is good, btw. The remaining mystery is what caused it go go totally dead. I will monitor/start it every few days from now on... On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Henifay is such a buzz killer. --R On 4/1/14 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
CORRECTION: How would a bad GP realy drain the battery yet still allow me to start the car? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: How would the GP relay drain the battery but not start the car? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Glow plug relay first thing to check. --R On 4/2/14 11:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My battery is good, btw. The remaining mystery is what caused it go go totally dead. I will monitor/start it every few days from now on... On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Henifay is such a buzz killer. --R On 4/1/14 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Just get a battery tender and call it good.Here's a couple. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009IBJAS?ie=UTF8at=force-full-site=1ref_=aw_bottom_linkshttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/BAXTUY?ie=UTF8at=force-full-site=1ref_=aw_bottom_links Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Andrew StrasfogelSent: Wednesday, April 2, 2014 10:26 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD My battery is good, btw. The remaining mystery is what caused it go go totally dead. I will monitor/start it every few days from now on... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
I think what he has done since his presidency is even better than anything he did while in office. Dan On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I share Dan and Gary's characterization of Jimmy Carter's administration. The Camp David Accord has endured into a lasting peace between Egypt and Israel. Amen to that. His envoironmental record was also pretty stellar. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: carter is looking better every day. history will view him as the last real president and not just a stooge for wall street On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Van Knutson wrote: The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
If the glow plug relay is stuck it will continue to send electrons to the glow plugs even when the car is off. While running the alternator might sorta keep up with the battery drain but when you shut the car off it will drain down the battery fast. This is what happened to the SD the daughter unit has, she got a new battery and it died too, a shop replaced the alternator and some other stuff and it was still having the same problem, I told them to check the relay and sho nuff that was the problem. Easy enough to see if the glow plugs are staying hot after the 30sec or whatever (or even without glowing -- put a finger on one, quickly!), or to put an ammeter on it and see if the relay is drawing current even after the glow period, or when the car is shut off. --R On 4/2/14 12:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: How would the GP relay drain the battery but not start the car? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Glow plug relay first thing to check. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC=xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
there is also a hiring bias that guarantees you will not get qualified candidates. a lot of those people asking if you'd like fries with their order could do the job you are looking to get done, but they can't get hired as people are risk averse and would rather hire someone they know can't do the job who looks better on paper (say someone with previous experience at the job) who they know can't do the job than someone who actually might be able to do it. it's really as much about how organizations work as it is about the education system. the talent is there but it often cannot connect with those who wish to buy it on account of this ideology i like to bet very young race dogs who are moving up in class on this principle that the dog is actually by far the best dog at this level and you'll never have a chance at this level again to make money on it. most wish to have a dog prove themselves inept at a class level before supporting them. the latter is where most organizations are at i'd tell you a story that illustrates this point, but i gotta go take a girl to lunch instead On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP The question is how? Abolishing the US Depart of Education would be a good start. Agree. Common Core; would be a great idea if the focus was re-training the teachers on the basic principles of the foundation of USA instead of socialist indoctrination of all children. We have, through lack of action by Citizens, allowed US Department of Education to produce an entire generation of uneducated and for all practical purposes unemployable youth. College graduates are currently the highest unemployed [per capita for their category] in the entire country. Per capita, USA spends more per student than any other country, and has for 40 years running... Worldwide, USA ranks far below first in student performance.. so more money is not the answer. Example: The immigration law firm I'm part of is in need of 6 law clerks. To date, we have taken over 300 applications. These applications are submitted by college graduates. The applications are so full of spelling and syntax errors I have taken to the practice of marking them with red pencil and returning them with comments [some quite to the point]. These are people who have paid for college education, and still can not spell or demonstrate use of basic communication skills in a professional environment. Sadly, it becomes my duty to damage their self esteem, it seems I'm the first in their young lives to tell them they fail. Abysmal hardly says enough. 12 years of public or private school, 4 years of law school, $200,000 in student loans and Would you like fries with that order? is the apex of their work talent. Somewhere, those teaching and those setting the standards for teaching need their self esteem re-adjusted. Token Mercedes Content: All my Mercedes are working as designed, perfectly. Oil of choice continues to preform to satisfaction. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: IMO, it's time (well, long past time) to bust the trusts of the education monopoly. The question is how? Abolishing the US Depart of Education would be a good start. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so... First, for the record, I'm old, kids are out of college and I'm out of the kids in school business. However, I belong to a group of people who have taken the time to actually read the books which are to be used to teach the common core classrooms. If you were educated any time before 1990 you WOULD NOT BELIEVE what these books hold. History has been re-written. The books are populated with anti-american bias that will set your teeth on edge, unless you are a radical islamic or a committed communist... then you will be so happy. By the way, the Powers That Be would not release the books to us for study.. we had to go there, set and read through them in place like it was some government secret what children would be taught. The over reach attitude did not set well. It was I'm from government and I own your children. We will do what we want to them from the first moment. Very high concern was reflected by the entire group. This is not the direction we want American children to be lead into if America is to survive as the Greatest and Richest Nation in recorded history. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs
when one becomes entrenched in ideology, all that stuff goes out the window On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:37 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Dwight wrote: I hope the list can maintain some of this diesel wrenching tradition even as it overhauls education health care. If we all applied the same degree of logic and documentation to politics, medicine, and other controversial subjects that we apply to Mercedes repair, there would be a great improvement in non-Mercedes discussions. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
yes, i can be the temporal power (chowdah king) and he is the ecclesiastical authority :) it is all coming together now! On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Dimitri is Archdeacon of the Massachusettes synod of the Church of the Holy Welder - Reformer. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:57 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My religion is best. All others suck:) Hahahaha! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:22 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
i'd move to canada, except i hate winter On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Oh please, quit whining. Move to Canada. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:44 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: -2 mao We need someone to bring our country back from the broken society / deathbed. Some may disagree, and personally I don't care, but Ronald Reagan brought us back from Jimmy Carter. Now we need someone to bring us back from this equally worthless Barack Obama. I don't know who it will be, but we desperately need someone or else this mighty ship and crew will be lost (just like Gilligan). Just my opinion, others are welcome to theirs. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] A Most Momentous Birthday
The Doctor is still in! http://www.drdemento.com/ -MMM- On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was just humming Fish Heads the other day Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Today is Dr. Demento's Birthday. Oh happy day. I wonder how many long nights I spent listening to him. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
Especially when compared to Republican exes Ford, Reagan, GW Bush and his idiot son. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I think what he has done since his presidency is even better than anything he did while in office. Dan On Apr 2, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I share Dan and Gary's characterization of Jimmy Carter's administration. The Camp David Accord has endured into a lasting peace between Egypt and Israel. Amen to that. His envoironmental record was also pretty stellar. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: carter is looking better every day. history will view him as the last real president and not just a stooge for wall street On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Van Knutson wrote: The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Bluetooth Radio Noise
I have a Bluetooth adapter that connects via line-in to the radio in the van. It charges via USB. The audio is fine when it is not plugged in to the van power; however, if the USB cable is plugged in when running, I get static-y, whiny noise. To make this a little more interesting, I also have an external battery pack. The other day I connected it to the Bluetooth adapter, and if the external pack was connected to the car power I got the static - if it was not, no static. Because of this I think my adapter is okay, and I am suspicious that there is some AC coming off the ground from the lighter socket. Can I just run a capacitor or two across the fuse in the power connector to filter? Any suggestions on appropriate capacitance? Anything else I should consider? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC=xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: got it off the trailer by chaining the car to a tree and yanking the trailer out from under it. Whee! Sounds like fun! Video? Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] '87300SDL vibration
Have tired everything to locate vibration, would a garage that had a dynamometer be able to duplicate the vibration and locate where it is coming from? If so, does anyone know of such a garage in central Florida? Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bluetooth Radio Noise
I recall back when it was sometimes necessary to put a capacitor in the radio power line to filter out ignition noise. That is probably what you need. I don't recall exactly what the arrangement is, probably a good google exercise. --R On 4/2/14 3:33 PM, Tim Crone wrote: I have a Bluetooth adapter that connects via line-in to the radio in the van. It charges via USB. The audio is fine when it is not plugged in to the van power; however, if the USB cable is plugged in when running, I get static-y, whiny noise. To make this a little more interesting, I also have an external battery pack. The other day I connected it to the Bluetooth adapter, and if the external pack was connected to the car power I got the static - if it was not, no static. Because of this I think my adapter is okay, and I am suspicious that there is some AC coming off the ground from the lighter socket. Can I just run a capacitor or two across the fuse in the power connector to filter? Any suggestions on appropriate capacitance? Anything else I should consider? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC=xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC=xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Static
Are the anti-static springs in your wheel hubs in operating condition? -- ...Bring back Family Sunday dinner together ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Subject: Re: Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Could also be power antenna? That's what happened to me.unplug the power antenna you'll know the next morning when you start the car.. Bob [ who seconds R Thomas] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
I talked to someone in Kazakhstan on Saturday, and also someone in Tatarstan (first I'd heard of it). On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world all other countries are run by little girls -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
The light in the trunk is another possible culprit. You don't notice that it's stuck on. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC= xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap?
And an ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIP, Frankenheap? On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: got it off the trailer by chaining the car to a tree and yanking the trailer out from under it. Whee! Sounds like fun! Video? Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
I take your points in good order. However, in our case, the persons hired to do the job required, will be responsible for case prep in often complicated immigration law cases. The documents prepared must be exacting in content, form and presentation. Lead Attorneys practice before federal courts including the Supreme Court of the United States. To turn in something that is less than letter perfect would reflect poorly on the defendants case and the firm. Thus, a requirement for attention to detail is part of the published job description. The applicants are fully advised of this in advance of submitting their written applications. If it were only a small percentage who had slight spelling errors perhaps it could be explained as that individuals error in attention to detail, however, the percentage of errors is much higher. Thus, my resort to the red pen edit as I review them. Further, this is not an entry level pay position. The expectation of professional standards is part of the job. Either education is lacking, or we simply have breed a society of slackers, apparently, who have never been held to a standard of business. In either case, correction is necessary for society to function as we have come to appreciate it. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: there is also a hiring bias that guarantees you will not get qualified candidates. a lot of those people asking if you'd like fries with their order could do the job you are looking to get done, but they can't get hired as people are risk averse and would rather hire someone they know can't do the job who looks better on paper (say someone with previous experience at the job) who they know can't do the job than someone who actually might be able to do it. it's really as much about how organizations work as it is about the education system. the talent is there but it often cannot connect with those who wish to buy it on account of this ideology i like to bet very young race dogs who are moving up in class on this principle that the dog is actually by far the best dog at this level and you'll never have a chance at this level again to make money on it. most wish to have a dog prove themselves inept at a class level before supporting them. the latter is where most organizations are at i'd tell you a story that illustrates this point, but i gotta go take a girl to lunch instead On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:04 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP The question is how? Abolishing the US Depart of Education would be a good start. Agree. Common Core; would be a great idea if the focus was re-training the teachers on the basic principles of the foundation of USA instead of socialist indoctrination of all children. We have, through lack of action by Citizens, allowed US Department of Education to produce an entire generation of uneducated and for all practical purposes unemployable youth. College graduates are currently the highest unemployed [per capita for their category] in the entire country. Per capita, USA spends more per student than any other country, and has for 40 years running... Worldwide, USA ranks far below first in student performance.. so more money is not the answer. Example: The immigration law firm I'm part of is in need of 6 law clerks. To date, we have taken over 300 applications. These applications are submitted by college graduates. The applications are so full of spelling and syntax errors I have taken to the practice of marking them with red pencil and returning them with comments [some quite to the point]. These are people who have paid for college education, and still can not spell or demonstrate use of basic communication skills in a professional environment. Sadly, it becomes my duty to damage their self esteem, it seems I'm the first in their young lives to tell them they fail. Abysmal hardly says enough. 12 years of public or private school, 4 years of law school, $200,000 in student loans and Would you like fries with that order? is the apex of their work talent. Somewhere, those teaching and those setting the standards for teaching need their self esteem re-adjusted. Token Mercedes Content: All my Mercedes are working as designed, perfectly. Oil of choice continues to preform to satisfaction. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: IMO, it's time (well, long past time) to bust the trusts of the education monopoly. The question is how? Abolishing the US Depart of Education would be a good start. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so... First, for the record, I'm old, kids are out of college and I'm out of the kids in school
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
No trunk - this is a 300td (wagon) . -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 02 April 2014, 04:31PM -0400 from OK Don okd...@gmail.com: The light in the trunk is another possible culprit. You don't notice that it's stuck on. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC= xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
No trunk - this is a 300td (wagon) . -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 02 April 2014, 04:31PM -0400 from OK Don okd...@gmail.com: The light in the trunk is another possible culprit. You don't notice that it's stuck on. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC= xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
Gary wrote: i find younger people think more like us. they know doctors and schools and wars and et al are frauds to exploit them and many are opting out of playing this game. but first the dinosaurs must die If your analysis is correct, I say we are in good company. Nobody else wants good company? Ditch the fraud of head in sand, get on board. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
Grant wrote: In either case, correction is necessary for society to function as we have come to appreciate it. Keep hoping. I doubt you will see what you expect - it ain't out there anymore, not with all the curriculum experiments of past years and hope in common core, etc. Your expectation of standards are out dated, even if excellent. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '87300SDL vibration
Once while looking at the Hunter Roadforce tire balancing website, specifically the page listing shops near me with that equipment, I noticed that some shops also offered vehicle vibration analysis and remediation. This is the type of shop you need. A sensor is attached to the car to measure the exact frequency and vehicle-speed relationship, and your vehicle info is plugged into their database, and the machine tells the mechanic which component(s) to test further. It looked pretty slick, pure FM if it works. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Original Message From: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com Sent: April 2, 2014 3:39:46 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] '87300SDL vibration Have tired everything to locate vibration, would a garage that had a dynamometer be able to duplicate the vibration and locate where it is coming from? If so, does anyone know of such a garage in central Florida? Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
And how. When I got my '84 190D I automatically replaced all the rear links. I don't know for sure any of them were bad but now I know they aren't. -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:34:35 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension Message-ID: 7a06caa2-ba28-11e3-ad81-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Even felt dangerous enough to scare me, Worst handling car I've ever driven was our 190D with _slightly_ bad rear links. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '87300SDL vibration
When my indy was trying to find noise in my 240D he put chassis ears on 4 corners as he called them h then drove the car. Still had trouble. Even got his mechanic father to ride along. On Apr 2, 2014 3:39 PM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote: Have tired everything to locate vibration, would a garage that had a dynamometer be able to duplicate the vibration and locate where it is coming from? If so, does anyone know of such a garage in central Florida? Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
When I was in the private sector, the greatest reward for good work was keeping your job. Based some experience but mainly on hearsay, this mechanism seems to be absent in government service, in general, and public education, in particular. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so... ... You are saying that if management makes a poor decision that affects the company as a whole, everyone suffers. I get that. But - if I do my job well I still get recognized for my efforts, even if it is not reflected in compensation. My performance review is not based on the performance of others or things I have no direct connection to. That is the difference. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
Not so much any more. The school district I worked for just got tenure dumped, at least for new teachers or teachers who have not yet gotten their professional educator's license (you get this after your third consecutive year of teaching in FL, which was effectively when you became tenured.) The teacher's union was even on board with the whole thing. As for County government, I have only been there since January and have seen two people get the boot. And these were Civil Service employees, too, not probationary like me. There seems to be little sympathy for those who don't pull their weight from what I can see, and managers have no problem writing people up and documenting their inadequacies or poor performance when necessary. At least where I am, government jobs are getting much tougher to get, and are by no means a guarantee of lifetime employment. I think a lot of this has to do with having to get lean and mean when the economy was in the dumper and tax revenues dried up a few years back. I know we're just starting to recover where I am, and it's getting a lot tougher to get a government job and they're being pretty picky about hiring unless they can justify the need. Dan On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: When I was in the private sector, the greatest reward for good work was keeping your job. Based some experience but mainly on hearsay, this mechanism seems to be absent in government service, in general, and public education, in particular. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so... ... You are saying that if management makes a poor decision that affects the company as a whole, everyone suffers. I get that. But - if I do my job well I still get recognized for my efforts, even if it is not reflected in compensation. My performance review is not based on the performance of others or things I have no direct connection to. That is the difference. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 07:25:21 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: The applications are so full of spelling and syntax errors I have taken to the practice of marking them with red pencil and returning them... Yes! Indeed! That's exactly what I do with the students in my class. I'll keep the idea in mind for other applications. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bluetooth Radio Noise
Sounds like you need purchase and install a Browning BR-Filter, 15 Amp Noise Filter Model BR-Filter, Radio Shack Catalog Number: 55065746. Here is what the catalog says about it: This Browning 15-Amp Noise Filter is a heavy-duty alternator and ignition noise suppressor. It offers a land mobile class in-line filter, a high-inductance iron core coil and a 10,000 MFD bypass electrolytic capacitor. Heavy-duty suppression of alternator and ignition noise Land mobile class in-line filter 250W Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:33:03 -0400 From: Tim Crone bb...@crone.us I have a Bluetooth adapter that connects via line-in to the radio in the van. It charges via USB. The audio is fine when it is not plugged in to the van power; however, if the USB cable is plugged in when running, I get static-y, whiny noise. To make this a little more interesting, I also have an external battery pack. The other day I connected it to the Bluetooth adapter, and if the external pack was connected to the car power I got the static - if it was not, no static. Because of this I think my adapter is okay, and I am suspicious that there is some AC coming off the ground from the lighter socket. Can I just run a capacitor or two across the fuse in the power connector to filter? Any suggestions on appropriate capacitance? Anything else I should consider? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:56:59 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? Not if the antenna is trying to retract the mast when it's all the way down. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Continued signal to retract after it's already retracted. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC=xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
SNIP Your expectation of standards are out dated, even if excellent. mao Actually.. as long as I write the pay check and sign it.. my expectations are the only expectations that will, for certain, be met, however out dated or arcane they may be. If you want to work for me, do it to my standard or you are free to leave is well communicated. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Grant wrote: In either case, correction is necessary for society to function as we have come to appreciate it. Keep hoping. I doubt you will see what you expect - it ain't out there anymore, not with all the curriculum experiments of past years and hope in common core, etc. Your expectation of standards are out dated, even if excellent. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
Dan Penoff wrote: I think what he has done since his presidency is even better than anything he did while in office. Aside from the utter hypocrisy of lecturing North Korea on the evils of boycotting an Olympiad, I'd agree with you that he's been better for the world as a former president than as a president. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 1991 350SDL
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Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Yeah but you would hear it. What about glovebox light, has that one been suggested? Hendrik who is fighting evil phone companies On 03/04/14 10:17, Craig wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:56:59 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? Not if the antenna is trying to retract the mast when it's all the way down. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?
1. At Wal-Mart, Americans spend $36,000,000 every hour of every day. 2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute! 3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year. 4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined. 5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people and is the largest private employer, and most can't speak English. 6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the world. 7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger Safeway combined, keep in mind they did this in only 15 years. 8. During this same period, 31 Supermarket chains sought bankruptcy. 9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world. 10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers ; this is 1,000 more than it had 5 years ago. 11. This year, 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur At a Wal-Mart store. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 billion.) 12. 90% of all Americans live within 15 miles of a Wal-Mart. 13. The value of product for Wal-Mart passing through the port of San Diego each year is a larger sum than 93% of ALL countries Gross National Product (GNP) ... and that is only ONE port- ...one way that’show Wal-Mart gets it's stuff. 14. Of the 1.6 million employees, only 1.2% make a living above the poverty level. 15. Wal-Mart's head office is located and centralized in Bentonville . Due to this fact, there are more millionaires per square mile there than any place on Earth. 16. The official U.S. Government position is that Wal-Mart's prices are no lower than anyone else's when compared to a typical families weekly purchases. That's the view of the statisticians at the Bureau Of Labor Statistics (BLS) responsible for calculating the Consumer Price Index (CPI). 17. 92% of everything Wal-Mart sells, comes from China . Another 4% comes from Chinese owned companies in the U . S . Or in 3rd world Countries. 18. Wal-Mart and MOST large companies, take out life insurance on it's employees, without their knowing. If an employee dies, ALL the insurance moneys go to the companies. I.e. An employee making $18,000 per year, dies, and the company might make as much as $1 million. Most often these moneys, coming from what is commonly referred to as Dead Peasant Life Insurance Policies, is paid out to executives as bonuses. (A common practice, unknown by the average consumer). 19. Wal-Mart now averages a profit (not sales) of $36 billion per year. If we closed all the Wal-Mart stores,would China go bankrupt? --- Every great organization is the extension of one mans personality. Gerry http://www.incredimail.com/app/?tag=emoticon_click_me_im2_relang=9version=6605282setup_id=7aff_id=102addon=IncrediMailupn=865ab258-c70f-4dca-920a-a0aa8438bb7aapp_test_id=0id=95202guid=67BF80F9-D450-4A9F-B94C-994923876E6Bhttp://www.incredimail.com/app/?tag=emoticon_click_me_im2_relang=9version=6605282setup_id=7aff_id=102addon=IncrediMailupn=865ab258-c70f-4dca-920a-a0aa8438bb7aapp_test_id=0id=95202guid=A79D9E8D-0853-41C5-A517-483A7D44D04C ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?
I can verify that Walmart's in OK send their new employees to the local welfare office to apply for food stamps and Medicaid. 14. Of the 1.6 million employees, only 1.2% make a living above the poverty level. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
a famous historian once asked a single question of naval officers who knew carter. you are staffing a submarine. jimmy carter is being considered for two jobs: captain and chief engineer. (i may have the second title wrong, but you get the gist of what i mean). which role do you want him in? something like 16 out of 17 chose him to be scott and not kirk. carter is a good worker with good ideas, but not a gifted leader . leadership is something different. and i think that sums up his shortcomings as president i was a big reagan supportive but if i could do it all over, i'd have supported carter and mcgovern before him. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I share Dan and Gary's characterization of Jimmy Carter's administration. The Camp David Accord has endured into a lasting peace between Egypt and Israel. Amen to that. His envoironmental record was also pretty stellar. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: carter is looking better every day. history will view him as the last real president and not just a stooge for wall street On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Van Knutson wrote: The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/ http://www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bluetooth Radio Noise
On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:33:03 -0400 Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Because of this I think my adapter is okay, and I am suspicious that there is some AC coming off the ground from the lighter socket. That is probably the case. Can I just run a capacitor or two across the fuse in the power connector to filter? Any suggestions on appropriate capacitance? Anything else I should consider? As Rich said, it's probably a good google exercise. Failing that, and presuming it doesn't draw much power, I suggest: R Power +12 -X/\/\/\/\---X--X- to | | | Adapter + | + | | - - - C1- C2 - - C3 | | | | | | | | | - - - --- ------ - - - Where the value of R can range from 0.1 ohm to 100 ohms. The maximum value will be determined by how much current the adaptor draws. You want the voltage drop across the resistor to be one or so volts. The voltage rating of the three capacitors should be 35 volts MINIMUM, preferably 50 volts or more. C1 should be 4.7 to 10 microfarad, tantalum C2 should be 1 microfarad, tantalum C3 should be 0.01 to 0.1 microfarad, multilayer ceramic Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 11:16:25 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah but you would hear it. Not necessarily. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL
But he doesn't say a word about the possible rod-bender engine. I'd love to have it if the engine has been replaced by factory crate engine. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 8:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1900489-f-s-91-350-sdl-md.html#post7662481 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL
Drop him a note and ask. Dan On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:58 PM, WILTON wrote: But he doesn't say a word about the possible rod-bender engine. I'd love to have it if the engine has been replaced by factory crate engine. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 8:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1900489-f-s-91-350-sdl-md.html#post7662481 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
'Never heard mine. BTW, my hearing is very good. Wilt - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Yeah but you would hear it. What about glovebox light, has that one been suggested? Hendrik who is fighting evil phone companies On 03/04/14 10:17, Craig wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 2014 15:56:59 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? Not if the antenna is trying to retract the mast when it's all the way down. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bluetooth Radio Noise
Tim wrote: I have a Bluetooth adapter that connects via line-in to the radio in the van. It charges via USB. The audio is fine when it is not plugged in to the van power; however, if the USB cable is plugged in when running, I get static-y, whiny noise. Because of this I think my adapter is okay, and I am suspicious that there is some AC coming off the ground from the lighter socket. Can I just run a capacitor or two across the fuse in the power connector to filter? Any suggestions on appropriate capacitance? Anything else I should consider? Could be a dead diode in the alternator. That causes extra ripple. To filter with a capacitor alone, it works best with it close to the source. So on the back of the alternator. If you use a choke coil in, then a capacitor with it can work well. Basically a low pass filter. The coil has to pass enough current for the load. Coil (inductor) and a capacitor. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '87300SDL vibration
http://irishmikes.com/dyno.html http://centralfloridaturbo.com/(both in Orlando) Gerry On 4/2/2014 3:39 PM, Ralph Robertson wrote: Have tired everything to locate vibration, would a garage that had a dynamometer be able to duplicate the vibration and locate where it is coming from? If so, does anyone know of such a garage in central Florida? Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
Grant wrote: If you want to work for me, do it to my standard... Yes - excellent!! You should school your new employees since schools in which your new employees are being trained are sooo deficient. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?
OK Don wrote: I can verify that Walmart's in OK send their new employees to the local welfare office to apply for food stamps and Medicaid. That's *not* a good thing, is it? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Be honest Wilton, listening to heavy metal music whilst rolling on 22 spinners with the sunroof wide open, you are not going to hear a little electric motor in the boot working hard to shift the antenna mast. Hendrik who don't have 22's On 03/04/14 12:32, WILTON wrote: 'Never heard mine. BTW, my hearing is very good. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
Either education is lacking, or we simply have breed a society of slackers, Dare I? Bred. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
How would a bad GP realy drain the battery yet still allow me to start the car? These have two relay contacts, one running #1 and the other doing the rest. If the #1 contact welded on... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How mean is it?
Well depends from which angle you look at it, obviously wallymartian bosses (we shall call them the enslavers)will be loving paying 3/4 of stuff all for someone to stack the shelves with quality merchandise from the mysterious orient. The governmentalists will be liking the way it keeps the unemployment rate down and if these people where not slaving away in the big box, they would probably be robbing you and me, or selling crack to the local kindergarden kids, or getting your sister pregnant with future walmartian workers. Hendrik who does not have a walmart nearby, we have Big W which is sort of like that On 03/04/14 13:53, Mountain Man wrote: OK Don wrote: I can verify that Walmart's in OK send their new employees to the local welfare office to apply for food stamps and Medicaid. That's *not* a good thing, is it? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Britain mimicking America, (or America mimicking Britain?)
Hey, Gove - leave them teachers alone! Back in the 1980s, Pink Floyd’s ‘Another Brick in The Wall’ summed up the frustrations of a generation of young people in Thatcher’s Britain – bullied and fed through a mincer of rote-learning, millions were thrown on the scrapheap of the dole queue. Fast forward three decades, and it’s Thatcher-2, the horror sequel. Today it’s PM David Cameron’s hit-man, Education Minister Michael Gove, who’s the classroom bully, and teachers and school students alike who are being force-fed through the mincer. But teachers are hitting back, and have staged a series of national strikes in their two-year battle against the Con-Dem government. In the latest strike, on March 26, a walkout by the 300,000 members of the National Union of Teachers – the most radical of the teachers’ unions – brought thousands of schools to a full or partial standstill in an effort to get Gove back to the negotiating table for realistic talks about the massive attacks on education and teachers he is trying to ram through. Thousands of teachers staged a lively march in central London, where they explained their reasons for striking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wWC56ZaSm0 and their rejection of Gove’s rote-learning proposals. In particular, teachers are protesting ever-lengthening working hours. Surveys show that primary school teachers are working an average of 60 hours a week and secondary school teachers 56 hours a week. These are forced upon them by ever-increasing amounts of form-filling, reports and testing, rather than classroom teaching. Teachers say that making them work these hours, while the government is proposing to make them work until 68 before they qualify for pensions (up from 65 years currently), is hurting educators and students alike. They are also vehemently against the introduction later this year of performance-related pay – a corrosive system that will pit teachers from the same school against each other, undermining the principle of collective teamwork by teachers and other school staff. Through these so-called /‘reforms’/, Cameron, Gove Co. are determined to force down teachers’ wages and conditions, as part of the Con-Dem government’s austerity measures aimed at shifting the burden of the economic crisis away from the bankers and big businesses that caused it, and on to the shoulders of already hard-hit ordinary working people and their families. The attacks on teachers’ pay and conditions are also part of Gove’s crusade to churn out a new generation of school-leavers drilled by soulless, dumbed-down and part-privatized education. His eventual goal appears to be to turn schools from centers of genuine learning into privatized exam factories, where young people leaving school will be fed into low-paid jobs on zero-hours contracts – all to feed the insatiable appetite for profits by Cameron, Osborne, Gove and Co.’s friends in big business. In response to those who say that teachers’ strikes http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26749899 are hurting children’s education, NUT General Secretary Christine Blower points out it’s the other way around – it’s the government attacks on the teaching profession that are harming children’s learning. Sir Michael Wilshaw, the chief schools inspector, has described as a /“national scandal http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/jan/15/ofsted-chief-teachers-quitting-scandal”/ the situation where two out of every five teachers that come into the profession are leaving within five years – a terrible indictment, and a sign that education needs a massive increase in funding, not the massive cuts being callously carried out by Gove. Then there are Gove’s experiments with privatizing education. The introduction of academies and so-called ‘free’ schools, which are being separately funded by Cameron’s government outside of local councils’ control, and with the involvement of private companies – regardless of whether such schools are wanted or needed by local communities. Meanwhile, conventional state schools are suffering from a lack of funding, shortages of places for children and growing class sizes. /“Under new legislation, teachers will not have to be qualified,”/ says Blower, the NUT leader. /“Free schools are opening in areas where they aren’t needed. But local authorities are not allowed to open schools where there is a schools places crisis.”/ The mood on the striking teachers’ demonstrations last week was one of increasing anger and frustration – and of feeling that now is the time to take a stand against Gove and Cameron, before it is too late. Typical of the teachers’ feelings were those expressed by Lee Coombs, a Buckinghamshire teacher on the march in Oxford http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-26758697, who told the BBC: /“The main reason I’m leaving and the main reason I’m on strike today is that teaching is no longer the journey of
Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL knock
Whilst there ask him if he got his knock sorted out? http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1947938-need-help-fixing-idle-knock-91-a.html Hendrik who has to knock on wood On 03/04/14 12:31, Dan Penoff wrote: Drop him a note and ask. Dan On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:58 PM, WILTON wrote: But he doesn't say a word about the possible rod-bender engine. I'd love to have it if the engine has been replaced by factory crate engine. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Yeah, I know it's hard to believe that such a hip guy has never listened to that crap music. BTW, I never sat in the car overnight listening for the little electric motor, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Be honest Wilton, listening to heavy metal music whilst rolling on 22 spinners with the sunroof wide open, you are not going to hear a little electric motor in the boot working hard to shift the antenna mast. Hendrik who don't have 22's On 03/04/14 12:32, WILTON wrote: 'Never heard mine. BTW, my hearing is very good. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
Yes, bred. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so... Either education is lacking, or we simply have breed a society of slackers, Dare I? Bred. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?
Nope - it's the Walmart benefits plan - paid by you and me. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: OK Don wrote: I can verify that Walmart's in OK send their new employees to the local welfare office to apply for food stamps and Medicaid. That's *not* a good thing, is it? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL knock
Good point. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1991 350SDL knock Whilst there ask him if he got his knock sorted out? http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1947938-need-help-fixing-idle-knock-91-a.html Hendrik who has to knock on wood On 03/04/14 12:31, Dan Penoff wrote: Drop him a note and ask. Dan On Apr 2, 2014, at 9:58 PM, WILTON wrote: But he doesn't say a word about the possible rod-bender engine. I'd love to have it if the engine has been replaced by factory crate engine. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '87300SDL vibration
Ralph needs to find a shop with this system: http://www.vibratesoftware.com/ -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
You dare.. and extra points for catching the snark.. hahaha.. ;)) On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Either education is lacking, or we simply have breed a society of slackers, Dare I? Bred. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
I was going to suggest that you stick your head in the trunk/boot but then it's probably full off amps and subwoofers. Hendrik who dose not have a fancy sound system On 03/04/14 14:45, WILTON wrote: Yeah, I know it's hard to believe that such a hip guy has never listened to that crap music. BTW, I never sat in the car overnight listening for the little electric motor, either. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
