Re: [MBZ] Testing times

2014-04-18 Thread Meade Dillon
Ha!

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Roadside belt fun

2014-04-18 Thread Meade Dillon
Great idea, have old belt for my wagon in the boot such as it is.  For
some reason, when I replaced the belt on this car 28k miles ago, I threw
that belt away.

Root cause of all this is a leaky power steering pump, which is dripping
hydraulic fluid for the ASD on the belt.  I've had a pump rebuild kit on
the shelf for several years now, need to get off my butt and fix those
leaks...

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Apr 18, 2014 12:08 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tis a good idea to keep a spare belt in the boot, generally these should
 be replaced when they start cracking, I keep an old belt in the spare wheel.
 Obviously once back in the shed the old belt should be replaced with a new
 one and the old one goes back into emergency storage. Sure you can't keep
 every spare in the car but it just makes sense to put a worn belt into the
 boot rather than the bin, especially in the land of Oz where there are vast
 distances between MB service centres.

 Hendrik
 whose excavator likes to eat belts

 On 18/04/14 09:09, Meade Dillon wrote:

 Thanks Wilton, fun to actually do SOMETHING to one of my cars.  Never have
 time to repair any of the niggling little things that are wrong. Should I
 be happy when something does go wrong?

 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
 On Apr 17, 2014 7:36 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  ATTABOY!

 Wilt



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Re: [MBZ] Roadside fun

2014-04-18 Thread Meade Dillon
330 miles is too far, and you probably don't have the belt or any other
parts at your office, I'll bet.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Apr 18, 2014 1:16 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 when going north, i get my first gas where US1 meets that loop road on teh
 west side of jax.  330 miles


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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread Meade Dillon
A Shell station recently built nearby has one pump off to the side which is
labeled ethanol free, slightly higher price.  Lots of folks filling up
boats, gas cans, etc use it.

I suspect it is pulling from the underground tank that all the premium
pumps pull from, wouldn't make sense to have a separate tank.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Apr 18, 2014 1:20 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Unless the shop explicitly says it is ethanol free, I would not believe
premium is missing corn squeezin's.  There are a few stations that sell
only corn free fuel up near me.  Maybe on your side of the Columbia, there
is some

 clay

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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com



Squirrels can be very tasty when cooked properly.  We shot them and ate 
them during WW-2 when meat was almost non-existent.  I seem to remember 
my parents cooking them with sassafras root and other local herbs.
We seem to have a balance of nature which controls the squirrel and 
varmint population around here since a pair of foxes periodically 
harvest the squirrels, rabbits, mice, and seem to chase away the 
raccoons and possums, at least temporarily.  We sometimes hear the 
rabbits squeal when the foxes make a killing.

Gerry

TIP:  Deoxit D5 seems to be a remarkable cleaner and (lubricator?) for 
locks.  I thought I had stripped the first lock on which I used it 
because the key turned so easily.  It's long term effect remains to be seen.


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Yes. Squirrels are a nuisance but I have no interest in killing them to fix any 
problems they may cause. Several years ago, I had a squirrel infestation in an 
rental property. I had some pros over who all suggested using rat traps. I 
didn't want any part of that. I used havahart traps, drove them ten miles away, 
released them and then closed off the ingress points. Problem finally went away 
and no squirrels died. Call me a pussy. I don't care.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:

Squirrels are VERY important.  They open pine cones and bury the seeds,
bury acorns, walnuts, butternut, etc.  Without squirrels, we'd have no
forests.  Some misguided souls think forest fires open pine cones which
allow new pine trees to sprout and grow, but that is an old wives tale...

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Apr 17, 2014 8:51 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

If we had either of those around I'm sure she'd save them.

Actually this is not the only reason we need a new vet but its a pretty
good indicator.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:45:01 -0600
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:


We had Buster at the vet last week and she asked me to donate money to
save hurt squirrels. I laughed. We need a new vet...

Yup. Our vet saves eagles and bears displaced by forest fires.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Make a mark on a (graduated) test tube about 2 inches from the bottom 
and fill it with the gasoline to be tested. Top the test tube with 
water, shake it and allow to stand. If the gasoline contains ethanol, 
the level of the solution will rise, as ethanol is absorbed by water. 
This would prove the presence of ethanol in the gasoline.

http://www.rocketswag.com/car/Ethanol/How-To-Test-For-Presence-Of-Ethanol.html

Amoco white gas used to be the best gasoline since it was nearly pure 
octane and needed no lead or other additives.  It was costly to refine 
and the price reflected that cost.  Not sure if Amoco premium is still 
white gas since blue color has been added. Nevertheless, it works well 
in my small engines and there is no residue at the beginning of the next 
season.

Unfortunately there is no longer any available locally.
Gerry

On 4/18/2014 12:45 AM, Kevin Allen Kraly wrote:

How do you make sure that the gasoline that you're buying is not contaminated 
with ethanol?  The Toyota Sienna Minivan got a fillip of premium  today.  I 
read some time ago on this list that premium gas isn't blended.  I don't want  
any gas containing ethanol
  in the van  since it doesn't get driven much.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

2012 Toy Sienna Van, 14Kmi
2012 Ram 2500 Cummins Diesel Pickup 3.6Kmi
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[MBZ] Apolitical Humor

2014-04-18 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com

Apolitical Aphorisms

*If God wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.*
~Jay Leno~
*The problem with political jokes is they get elected.*
~Henry Cate, VII~
*We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office*
~Aesop~
*If we got one-tenth of what was promised to us in these State of the 
Union speeches, there wouldn't be any inducement to go to heaven.*

~Will Rogers~
*Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge 
even where there is no river.*

~Nikita Khrushchev~
*When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm 
beginning to believe it.*

~Clarence Darrow~
*Why pay money to have your family tree traced; go into politics and 
your opponents will do it for you.*

~Author unknown~
*Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the 
tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel.*

~John Quinton~
*Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and 
campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the 
other.*

~Oscar Ameringer~
*I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about 
us, I will stop telling the truth about them.*

~Adlai Stevenson, campaign speech, 1952~
*A politician is a fellow who will lay down your life for his country.*
~ Tex Guinan~
*I have come to the conclusion that politics is too serious a matter 
to be left to the politicians.*

~Charles de Gaulle~
*Instead of giving a politician the keys to the city, it might be 
better to change the locks.*

~Doug Larson~
*There ought to be one day -- just one -- when there is open season 
on Congressmen.*



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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread Mitch Haley

Kevin Allen Kraly wrote:

How do you make sure that the gasoline that you're buying is not contaminated 
with ethanol?  The Toyota Sienna Minivan got a fillip of premium  today.  I 
read some time ago on this list that premium gas isn't blended.  I don't want  
any gas containing ethanol
 in the van  since it doesn't get driven much.


I don't know about Oregon, but in Michigan, either you bought it at a marina or 
it's E10, which can sometimes go as high as E15.

Michigan, Indiana and Ohio all have no requirements for pump labeling.

I just checked, in Oregon, if there's 1.5% or more of ethanol, the pump must 
have an ethanol content sticker on it. I'd trust the sticker on the pump more 
than I'd trust the station employees. If you ask the guy who takes your money 
for minimum wage, he'll just tell you the first thing that pops into his head.



Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Roadside fun

2014-04-18 Thread John Reames
I've always had better luck with Goodyear than with gates. (Although on the 
MB's I'll go after the Conti belts first... And avoid the Conti tires)

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On Apr 18, 2014, at 5:17, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:

 330 miles is too far, and you probably don't have the belt or any other
 parts at your office, I'll bet.
 
 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
 
 On Apr 18, 2014 1:16 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 when going north, i get my first gas where US1 meets that loop road on teh
 west side of jax.  330 miles
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Re: [MBZ] Squirrels and Forest Fires [was: Re: ULSD now Ethanol]

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
What bait am I supposed to rise to?


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:

 (Secret message for Craig: shh.  trying to get a rise out of
 Andrew)

 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
 On Apr 17, 2014 10:05 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

  On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 21:09:05 -0400 Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Squirrels are VERY important.  They open pine cones and bury the seeds,
   bury acorns, walnuts, butternut, etc.  Without squirrels, we'd have no
   forests.  Some misguided souls think forest fires open pine cones which
   allow new pine trees to sprout and grow, but that is an old wives
   tale...
 
  Actually, it seems it is not an old wives tale.
  
 
 
 http://www.nps.gov/fire/wildland-fire/learning-center/educator-resources/lesson-plans/fire-adaptation.cfm
 
  Retention of seeds by plants and stimulation of seed dispersal by fire
  are other examples of fire-adaptive strategies. A number of pine species
  have pine cones that open only after a fire. These cones are said to be
  serotinous (pronounced sir-ot-in-ous). Jack pines have cones that are
  held closed by a resin that is sensitive to high temperatures. These
  cones will not open to release their seeds until the critical temperature
  is reached. Lodgepole pine cones (a western U.S. variety of tree) vary
  from serotinous to free-opening. When these trees grow in areas subject
  to frequent fires, the cones are serotinous. However, if this species
  grows in areas where fire is less frequent, the cones open and release
  their seeds more frequently without fire.
  
  http://interwork.sdsu.edu/fire/resources/conifer-forest.htm
 
  Coulter pine displays variation in degree of cone serotiny (cones that
  open with fire). Not every Coulter pine cone is serotinous.  There are
  some trees with no serotinous cones and some with all serotinous cones
  and everything in between.  Serotiny is prevalent in Coulter pines
  occurring withing chaparral or oak woodland.  Cones of Coulter pine in
  these communities typically do not open until heated by fire.
  Consequently, the bulk of Coulter pine regeneration in these communities
  occurs after fire.  Coulter pine ecotypes associated with coast live oak,
  however, typically bear cones that open at maturity or shortly
  thereafter.  Coulter pine seedling development is best in mineral soil in
  open areas; such conditions are created by fire.
  
 
 
 http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/lodgepole-pine-trees-love-forest-fires/
 
  The summer of 2012 was certainly a scorcher, with forest fires blazing
  across the Western United States. To humans, wildfires are often scary
  and dangerous. If you were a lodgepole pine cone, though, you would be
  eagerly awaiting the blazing heat of those flames!
 
  How come lodgepole pine cones like fire so much?
 
  When lodgepole pines grow, especially in areas that are prone to forest
  fires, their cones are tightly sealed. A layer of resin and woody tissue
  sticks the cones’ scales together. The seeds are locked in tight, and the
  cones can’t open unless they’re exposed to VERY high temperatures–the
  type of temperatures that fire provides.
 
  “Serotinous” is a scientific term for a seed that requires an
  environmental trigger in order to be released. For the lodgepole pine,
  that trigger is heat. And since big fires don’t come along very often,
  those well sealed pine cones have to be extremely patient. They can hang
  out on the tree branches for several years waiting for enough heat to
  open them up!
 
  Years of waiting
 
  So, if multiple years’ worth of cones can accumulate, then a lot of new
  pine trees sure must sprout up after a fire.
 
  Lodgepole pines are famous for colonizing post fire landscapes. The seeds
  love the carbon rich soil that fire leaves behind, and seedlings pop up
  almost immediately. They grow into dense stands of trees, and before you
  know it, there’s a whole new crop of serotinous cones waiting in
  anticipation for the next fire to blaze through.
  
  http://techalive.mtu.edu/meec/module11/FireandJackPine.htm
 
  Why Do Jack Pine Trees Grow After Fire?
 
  Michigan Environmental Education Curriculum
  Forest Ecosystem
 
  New jack pine seedlings grow well after a hot fire. Fire causes the cone
  of an older jack pine tree to open up and release seeds. Cones that need
  heat, such as the heat from fire, in order to open are called serotinous
  cones. When the heat causes the cones to open, seeds are released and
  fall to the ground (see animation below).
 
  In Michigan, the Department of Natural Resources (DNR) lights fires in
  the Jack Pine Ecosystems to help new jack pine trees grow. This is
  because the Kirtland's Warbler will only build nests under the young jack
  pine trees.
  
  

Re: [MBZ] Testing times

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Hey speaking of Apple, how to I find a compatible printer driver for a
Canon Pixma MP 780?  The computer does NOT recognixe this when I connect it
to my IMac.  :((




On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ha!

 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Apolitical Humor

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
My favorite is the one attributed to Adlai Stevenson, although I would have
guessed it was said by Hubert Humphrey.


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com 
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Apolitical Aphorisms

 *If God wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.*
 ~Jay Leno~
 *The problem with political jokes is they get elected.*
 ~Henry Cate, VII~
 *We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office*
 ~Aesop~
 *If we got one-tenth of what was promised to us in these State of the
 Union speeches, there wouldn't be any inducement to go to heaven.*
 ~Will Rogers~
 *Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even
 where there is no river.*
 ~Nikita Khrushchev~
 *When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President; I'm
 beginning to believe it.*
 ~Clarence Darrow~
 *Why pay money to have your family tree traced; go into politics and
 your opponents will do it for you.*
 ~Author unknown~
 *Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the
 tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel.*
 ~John Quinton~
 *Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign
 funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other.*
 ~Oscar Ameringer~
 *I offer my opponents a bargain: if they will stop telling lies about
 us, I will stop telling the truth about them.*
 ~Adlai Stevenson, campaign speech, 1952~
 *A politician is a fellow who will lay down your life for his country.*
 ~ Tex Guinan~
 *I have come to the conclusion that politics is too serious a matter to
 be left to the politicians.*
 ~Charles de Gaulle~
 *Instead of giving a politician the keys to the city, it might be better
 to change the locks.*
 ~Doug Larson~
 *There ought to be one day -- just one -- when there is open season on
 Congressmen.*

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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
How much ethanol is in diesel fuel

You bozos need to start a gasoline affinity group.


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Kevin Allen Kraly wrote:

 How do you make sure that the gasoline that you're buying is not
 contaminated with ethanol?  The Toyota Sienna Minivan got a fillip of
 premium  today.  I read some time ago on this list that premium gas isn't
 blended.  I don't want  any gas containing ethanol
  in the van  since it doesn't get driven much.


 I don't know about Oregon, but in Michigan, either you bought it at a
 marina or it's E10, which can sometimes go as high as E15.
 Michigan, Indiana and Ohio all have no requirements for pump labeling.

 I just checked, in Oregon, if there's 1.5% or more of ethanol, the pump
 must have an ethanol content sticker on it. I'd trust the sticker on the
 pump more than I'd trust the station employees. If you ask the guy who
 takes your money for minimum wage, he'll just tell you the first thing that
 pops into his head.


 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Correction: You didn't kill any squirrels, you don't know if they died.
My parents live on the rural/urban divide near a power line access road where 
people like to drop off the rodents they trap. My parents backyard birdfeeders 
can support birds plus up to 3 squirrels, after 3 squirrels they destroy the 
feeders and starve the birds. We've learned this over the years after many 
squirrel proof feeders were ruined.
So now when the 4th squirrel shows up it gets dispatched and the local 
scavengers eat well. Those well fed suburban squirrels are pudgy little rascals.

As a lad this was both excellent target practice (I can dispatch a squirrel 
very humanely) and a good lesson in wildlife ecology and the circle of life.

Lately I've been thinking I ought to buy a better air rifle. I've got a cheap 
10 pump and while I think it would dispatch a squirrel (.177 pellet at ~900fps) 
its on the line for a good humane kill and I hate having to pump 10 times. A 
good break barrel would go more like 1100fps and would be a much more sure 
thing.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 00:49:38 -0400
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Yes. Squirrels are a nuisance but I have no interest in killing them to fix any 
problems they may cause. Several years ago, I had a squirrel infestation in an 
rental property. I had some pros over who all suggested using rat traps. I 
didn't want any part of that. I used havahart traps, drove them ten miles away, 
released them and then closed off the ingress points. Problem finally went away 
and no squirrels died. Call me a pussy. I don't care.

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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread Craig
On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:58:31 -0400 arche...@embarqmail.com
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Make a mark on a (graduated) test tube about 2 inches from the bottom 
 and fill it with the gasoline to be tested. Top the test tube with 
 water, shake it and allow to stand. If the gasoline contains ethanol, 
 the level of the solution will rise, as ethanol is absorbed by water. 
 This would prove the presence of ethanol in the gasoline.
 http://www.rocketswag.com/car/Ethanol/How-To-Test-For-Presence-Of-Ethanol.html

Ummm ... something is wrong here.

If you put 100 ml of ethanol in a graduated cylinder and then add 100 ml
of water, you will not get 200 ml of solution because the water and
ethanol are miscible (they mix together), you will get less than 200 ml.

What does top the test tube with water mean? Fill it to the top?

How can the level of the solution rise if the ethanol and water mix?


Craig

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[MBZ] Hotmail

2014-04-18 Thread Rick Knoble
It appears that hotmail is no longer bouncing list mail.

Yay!

Rick

  
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Re: [MBZ] Cat Food

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
When I eat fish he always gets the juice from the package plus a few
morsels of cooked fish.


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:34 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 As opposed to processed junk.

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  On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  As opposed to fake fish?
 
  Hendrik
  whose cat only ate whiskas cat food, both dry and tinned
 
  On 17/04/14 09:08, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
  How about some real fish.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread Meade Dillon
I've heard that squirrels are very territorial.   Invaders (I.e. dropped
off) squirrels are driven away.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Apr 18, 2014 10:53 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Correction: You didn't kill any squirrels, you don't know if they died.
 My parents live on the rural/urban divide near a power line access road
 where people like to drop off the rodents they trap. My parents backyard
 birdfeeders can support birds plus up to 3 squirrels, after 3 squirrels
 they destroy the feeders and starve the birds. We've learned this over the
 years after many squirrel proof feeders were ruined.
 So now when the 4th squirrel shows up it gets dispatched and the local
 scavengers eat well. Those well fed suburban squirrels are pudgy little
 rascals.

 As a lad this was both excellent target practice (I can dispatch a
 squirrel very humanely) and a good lesson in wildlife ecology and the
 circle of life.

 Lately I've been thinking I ought to buy a better air rifle. I've got a
 cheap 10 pump and while I think it would dispatch a squirrel (.177 pellet
 at ~900fps) its on the line for a good humane kill and I hate having to
 pump 10 times. A good break barrel would go more like 1100fps and would be
 a much more sure thing.

 -Curt

 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 00:49:38 -0400
 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol
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 Yes. Squirrels are a nuisance but I have no interest in killing them to
 fix any problems they may cause. Several years ago, I had a squirrel
 infestation in an rental property. I had some pros over who all suggested
 using rat traps. I didn't want any part of that. I used havahart traps,
 drove them ten miles away, released them and then closed off the ingress
 points. Problem finally went away and no squirrels died. Call me a pussy. I
 don't care.

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[MBZ] OT - Sondy Tale

2014-04-18 Thread WILTON

Yep, another Sondy Tale.

THE RESEARCH PAPER
By Wilton Strickland

In February, 1978, when I left California for my assignment as Director of 
Engineering at Sondrestrom Air Base, Greenland, I had just completed the 
seminars portion of Air Force Air Command and Staff College (ACSC), an 
intermediate level professional military education program of Air 
University, but I had not completed the research paper, an Aerospace Power 
Study, required for graduation.  Most of the research and the basic writing 
were fairly well done, but I needed to finish a final draft with proper 
footnotes and a complete and correct bibliography, produce a properly typed 
copy and present it to the University.  The small library at Sondrestrom was 
very inadequate for my needs to complete the paper.  Meanwhile, there was a 
formal, two-week short course, Air Force Base Civil Engineer, at 
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, that I had wanted to attend for a couple of years. 
If I could wrangle an assignment to the course, I could have complete access 
to the outstanding library at the Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT) 
and easily get the research paper completed during my time there.  I called 
the school and quickly arranged to attend the course in April.  I also 
called the Base Civil Engineer (BCE) at George AFB, CA, my former duty 
station, and got his approval to ask his secretary, Felly Elarmo, a mighty 
fine lady and absolutely the best typist I've ever known, to type the 
finished document for me in a format meeting the Air University 
requirements.


Felly agreed to do the typing for me, and I departed Sondy aboard a New York 
Air National Guard C-130 on a Saturday morning in mid-April to attend the 
Civil Engineer Course and arrived at the NY Guard's home base at 
Schenectady, NY, in early afternoon.  (In the taxi between the Schenectady 
base and the Albany Airport to catch a flight to Dayton, OH, I had a very 
short strange or funny experience.  Back at Sondy, I had been deeply 
engrossed in studying Danish for nearly two months, and was already able to 
engage in simple conversations in Danish.  I suddenly realized, though, that 
I was trying to understand the Danish on the upstate NY taxi dispatcher 
radio.)


At the Wright-Patterson Library, I quickly and easily found the references I 
needed and, in my room at night and on the weekend, wrote a final draft of 
the paper, including appropriate footnotes, bibliography and much cutting 
and pasting/taping.  (Remember that this was before the proliferation of 
personal computers.)


I also called Felly to coordinate the typing work and told her that I 
planned to arrive at her office at George AFB, CA, at 0730 on the following 
Friday after finishing the classes at Wright-Patterson.  Meanwhile, I 
learned that, though the last class for the Civil Engineer Course was on 
Thursday afternoon, I was required to attend a graduation ceremony on Friday 
morning for The General's graduation speech and presentation of 
certificates.  Immediately after the last class at about mid-afternoon on 
Thursday, I talked to the School Commandant, a colonel whose name I don't 
remember, about the possibility of getting my completion certificate and 
departing for California immediately.  I told him that I was stationed in 
Greenland, had not seen my wife and children for more than two months and 
needed to get that research paper typed on Friday in California and head 
back to Greenland on Sunday.  I assured him that, having heard many 
graduation speeches, I already knew what The General was going to say and 
proceeded to cite some of the typical words of inspiration often used in 
such speeches.  The colonel opened a desk drawer, shuffled through the 
sheath of signed certificates and handed mine to me, saying, Don't tell 
anybody else that you're leaving early.  I assured him that I would not say 
a word about it to anybody, that I'd be gone in well less than an hour and 
that nobody else would notice or care that I was missing.


I arrived at Felly's office the next morning at 0730 as planned.  She and 
her boss, the BCE, had cleared the day for her to work exclusively on my 
paper, which she finished by about mid-afternoon.  I have never seen a more 
impressive job of perfect typing.  Having done the work during her normal 
duty day, Felly did not expect any additional payment for her outstanding 
work well beyond the call of duty, but I gave her what I thought at the time 
was a reasonable bonus or gift of appreciation, but viewed now via 36-year 
retrospect, what I gave her was embarrassingly inadequate.


I mailed the completed document on Saturday morning, and, after another day 
or so at  home with my wife and two of the children, I left California again 
for the return trip to Sondy on Sunday afternoon and arrived back there on 
Monday via Schenectady and a New York Air National Guard C-130.


A few weeks later, I received an ACSC Certificate of Completion and a letter 

Re: [MBZ] Squirrels and Forest Fires [was: Re: ULSD now Ethanol]

2014-04-18 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Andrew:

Never use a preposition to end a sentence with!

Greg, unofficial Grammar Police.

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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 7:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Squirrels and Forest Fires [was: Re: ULSD now Ethanol]

What bait am I supposed to rise to?





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Re: [MBZ] Squirrels and Forest Fires [was: Re: ULSD now Ethanol]

2014-04-18 Thread astrasfogel
 I didn't think any of you troglodytes would notice. .
--

Friday, 18 April 2014, 01:53PM -0400 from Greg Fiorentino 
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Never use a preposition to end a sentence with!
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[MBZ] sls troubles 1982 300td

2014-04-18 Thread Rick Hawkins Java

From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com
Date: April 17, 2014 2:49:10 AM EDT
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td suspension fluid
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


Hi Rick,

Dragging rear at rest is probably the control valve, which is allowing  
the

base pressure to bleed off.

After you shut off the engine, open the SLS reservoir to watch the  
return
line outflow.  If it keeps on dripping with no end until the rear  
sags, the

control valve is your culprit.

Recently read on the peach parts forum about a member who has put  
together
a rebuild kit with replacement o-rings.  Worth a try I think.  IIRC  
there

are five o-rings in the valve in later versions.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
thanks,


Max

I may very well have a problem with the valve too BUT the fact that  
the RIDE is like a washboard is indicative of bad accumulators, is it  
not?


and i may be leaking oil into the system from the seal on the back of  
the SLS pump in the engine


i sort of need to fix everything, i suspect  (again)

at least the hoses are all ok

remember i abuse this thing often towing 1500 lbs on a trailer



xx rick
Rick Hawkins








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Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 1982 300td

2014-04-18 Thread Scott Ritchey
If it rides hard (feels like the axle is welded to the frame)  that is
caused by one or both failed spheres.  The bad news is that failed spheres
will damage the SLS valve if you drive it long with bad spheres.

 
 Max
 
 I may very well have a problem with the valve too BUT the fact that
 the RIDE is like a washboard is indicative of bad accumulators, is it
 not?
 
 and i may be leaking oil into the system from the seal on the back of
 the SLS pump in the engine
 
 i sort of need to fix everything, i suspect  (again)
 
 at least the hoses are all ok
 
 remember i abuse this thing often towing 1500 lbs on a trailer
 
 
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 1982 300td

2014-04-18 Thread Meade Dillon
What Scott said.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Apr 18, 2014 2:49 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 If it rides hard (feels like the axle is welded to the frame)  that is
 caused by one or both failed spheres.  The bad news is that failed spheres
 will damage the SLS valve if you drive it long with bad spheres.

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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com

On 4/18/2014 11:33 AM, Craig wrote:

On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:58:31 -0400 arche...@embarqmail.com
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:


Make a mark on a (graduated) test tube about 2 inches from the bottom
and fill it with the gasoline to be tested. Top the test tube with
water, shake it and allow to stand. If the gasoline contains ethanol,
the level of the solution will rise, as ethanol is absorbed by water.
This would prove the presence of ethanol in the gasoline.


http://www.rocketswag.com/car/Ethanol/How-To-Test-For-Presence-Of-Ethanol.html


Ummm ... something is wrong here.

If you put 100 ml of ethanol in a graduated cylinder and then add 100 ml
of water, you will not get 200 ml of solution because the water and
ethanol are miscible (they mix together), you will get less than 200 ml.

What does top the test tube with water mean? Fill it to the top?

How can the level of the solution rise if the ethanol and water mix?

Craig

...

Right. Rocketswag had it backwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_molar_property

Gerry





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Re: [MBZ] Squirrels and Forest Fires [was: Re: ULSD now Ethanol]

2014-04-18 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com


This is the sort of grammatical heresy up with which we should not have 
to put.

Gerry

  I didn't think any of you troglodytes would notice. .
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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Here's a better explanation of the test suggested previously which is 
simply based on the affinity of alcohol for water; no complex chemistry 
involved.



HOW TO TEST FUEL FOR ETHANOL

*To determine if ethanol is in the gas: *

 * On a test tube or olive bottle six or seven inches long, make a
   permanent line about two inches from the bottom.
 * Fill with water to this line, then fill the tube to the top with
   gasoline.
 * Cover the tube, agitate it, and let it stand.

The ethanol and water will mix and separate out together. If the water 
level appears to have increased, the fuel contains ethanol and should 
not be used. Ethanol percentages of less than 5% can sometimes give a 
reading below the line. Therefore, any deviation in the water line 
indicates the presence of ethanol and should serve as a basis for 
rejecting the fuel.


*Get a reusable tester for only $15!
*

*http://www.autofuelstc.com/fuel_testing.phtml
*

*Gerry

*


On 4/18/2014 10:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

How much ethanol is in diesel fuel

You bozos need to start a gasoline affinity group.


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


Kevin Allen Kraly wrote:


How do you make sure that the gasoline that you're buying is not
contaminated with ethanol?  The Toyota Sienna Minivan got a fillip of
premium  today.  I read some time ago on this list that premium gas isn't
blended.  I don't want  any gas containing ethanol
  in the van  since it doesn't get driven much.


I don't know about Oregon, but in Michigan, either you bought it at a
marina or it's E10, which can sometimes go as high as E15.
Michigan, Indiana and Ohio all have no requirements for pump labeling.

I just checked, in Oregon, if there's 1.5% or more of ethanol, the pump
must have an ethanol content sticker on it. I'd trust the sticker on the
pump more than I'd trust the station employees. If you ask the guy who
takes your money for minimum wage, he'll just tell you the first thing that
pops into his head.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Squirrels seem to be very regional, meaning they're different in different 
parts of the country/world. Grey squirrels don't seem to be too territorial but 
reds certainly are.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 13:34:01 -0400
From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol
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I've heard that squirrels are very territorial.  Invaders (I.e. dropped
off) squirrels are driven away.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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[MBZ] SEL fixed

2014-04-18 Thread Jim Cathey

An uexpected day off, and all the parts are here, it was time to fix
the SEL!  First was tbe new non-resistor spark plugs.  NOS Bosch
W9DC0's, apparently NLA.  $28.  There are alternatives, but these are
the 'real deal'.  #2 was a problem, it wouldn't seat all the way.  I
think the PO had not seated it fully, and the threads are all clogged.
I took one of the old plugs and ground a slot in it with the Dremel,
then used it as a tap to clean it out, with PB Blaster as a lube.
Quite a number of insertions, twisting in against scary resistance,
and then removal and cleaning finally got the thing to seat, then I
put in the new plug.  Next were the new Beru wires, $159.  The
original wires had # labels, but they are non-transferrable.  They
also were sleeved, and more customized as to length.  I installed the
new wires, and used inner-tube rubber and tie-wraps to make protective
sleeves.  Getting access to the coil to replace that wire was
difficult, but I eventually prevailed.  Next was the four dead rubber
air hoses (two on the valve covers and two on the idle air valve) and
the mount for the idle air valve.  They were no real problem.
#116-094-07-91 $14.50, #117-094-08-82 $5.75, #117-094-09-82 $11.50,
and #117-094-12-82 $7, all OE.  The standoff was aftermarket, $4.50.
After this I hit the key and the car started right up, and idled
fairly well, _much_ better than before.  I had to put in some more ATF
before the car would move, but that's not unusual.  All this took
about three hours, but the car's now drivable again.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Testing times

2014-04-18 Thread Dan Penoff
From what I can see, Canon doesn't support Lion or later OSs' for the printer.

I wonder if you could use CUPS?

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] SEL fixed

2014-04-18 Thread WILTON

'Nother ATTABOY!

Wilton

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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 5:02 PM
Subject: [MBZ] SEL fixed



An uexpected day off, and all the parts are here, it was time to fix
the SEL!  First was tbe new non-resistor spark plugs.  NOS Bosch
W9DC0's, apparently NLA.  $28.  There are alternatives, but these are
the 'real deal'.  #2 was a problem, it wouldn't seat all the way.  I
think the PO had not seated it fully, and the threads are all clogged.
I took one of the old plugs and ground a slot in it with the Dremel,
then used it as a tap to clean it out, with PB Blaster as a lube.
Quite a number of insertions, twisting in against scary resistance,
and then removal and cleaning finally got the thing to seat, then I
put in the new plug.  Next were the new Beru wires, $159.  The
original wires had # labels, but they are non-transferrable.  They
also were sleeved, and more customized as to length.  I installed the
new wires, and used inner-tube rubber and tie-wraps to make protective
sleeves.  Getting access to the coil to replace that wire was
difficult, but I eventually prevailed.  Next was the four dead rubber
air hoses (two on the valve covers and two on the idle air valve) and
the mount for the idle air valve.  They were no real problem.
#116-094-07-91 $14.50, #117-094-08-82 $5.75, #117-094-09-82 $11.50,
and #117-094-12-82 $7, all OE.  The standoff was aftermarket, $4.50.
After this I hit the key and the car started right up, and idled
fairly well, _much_ better than before.  I had to put in some more ATF
before the car would move, but that's not unusual.  All this took
about three hours, but the car's now drivable again.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] Any Listers in the UK or Western Europe?

2014-04-18 Thread Dan Penoff
If so, could you drop me a note off list?  I have a part I want to buy on eBay 
K, and they won't ship to the States.  I'm looking for someone who would be 
willing to drop ship it to me.

Thanks,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Any Listers in the UK, France, Ireland or Germany?

2014-04-18 Thread Dan Penoff
That's eBay UK, and the seller only lists the UK, France, Germany and Ireland 
as countries they'll ship to.

Dan



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 eBay K, and they won't ship to the States.  I'm looking for someone who would 
 be willing to drop ship it to me.
 
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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread OK Don
I bought a testing kit that is an alcohol soluble dye. Put a drop in a
sample of the gas, agitate, and see whether the sample has changed color
and whether the drop is still the same size. I test the fuel perhaps every
other month that goes into the Cessna from the usual station, and before
pumping much from new stations.

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wrote:

 How do you make sure that the gasoline that you're buying is not
 contaminated with ethanol?  The Toyota Sienna Minivan got a fillip of
 premium  today.  I read some time ago on this list that premium gas isn't
 blended.  I don't want  any gas containing ethanol
  in the van  since it doesn't get driven much.

 Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

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 2012 Ram 2500 Cummins Diesel Pickup 3.6Kmi
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Re: [MBZ] Testing times

2014-04-18 Thread OK Don
If you didn't buy it at the apple store, you are supposed to use it. :-)

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[MBZ] sls troubles 300td 1982

2014-04-18 Thread Rick Hawkins Java

So what kind of damage could be done to the pump?

it's a pretty simple device  pounding around of the pistons or  
something


the lever is moved all the time when you drive around and hit bumps,   
no matter how heavy or  light you use it, i would think


lack of the dampening action of the spheres?

i would think a hose would fail before the valve

it still rises when the engine is running and goes to correct height  
even with several hundred lbs of load in the back

thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins


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From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
Date: April 18, 2014 2:50:27 PM EDT
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 1982 300td
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com


If it rides hard (feels like the axle is welded to the frame)   
that is
caused by one or both failed spheres.  The bad news is that failed  
spheres

will damage the SLS valve if you drive it long with bad spheres.



Max

I may very well have a problem with the valve too BUT the fact that
the RIDE is like a washboard is indicative of bad accumulators, is it
not?


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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Any Listers in the UK, France, Ireland or Germany or Nigeria?

2014-04-18 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Ask them, I have had times when Oz is not listed but asking the seller, 
they said that they will ship to Oz for a fee.


Hendrik
who is still dreaming of good burlwood trim for the 124

On 19/04/14 07:39, Dan Penoff wrote:

That's eBay UK, and the seller only lists the UK, France, Germany and Ireland 
as countries they'll ship to.

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Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 300td 1982

2014-04-18 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Hawkins Java wrote:

So what kind of damage could be done to the pump?

it's a pretty simple device  pounding around of the pistons or 
something


the lever is moved all the time when you drive around and hit bumps,  no 
matter how heavy or  light you use it, i would think


lack of the dampening action of the spheres?

i would think a hose would fail before the valve



It's the control valve that gets damaged by the pressure spikes.
When I bought my 2.3-16, it had dead spheres and a valve that wouldn't hold 
pressure. I got a used valve from somebody who downgraded to lowering springs, 
and new spheres. When those spheres died, I let the tire pressure down to 20 psi 
and drove it carefully 6 miles to the cottage to store it. When I got there, the 
suspension was flat again, that 'gentle' drive to the lake killed the 
replacement control valve. IIRC, my W201 uses S123 spheres and S124 control 
valve, and the 124 valve isn't rebuildable.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Testing apple times

2014-04-18 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Ha ha +1 for that one. Wonder how they feel about me buying a screen for 
an iphoney off ebay
Speaking of printers, the other day I had job that involved taking a 
load of stuff to the rubbish dump. In amongst all the crap was a HP 
printer, which looked OK so I took it home.
Fired it up and all the lights where on but the paper was not feeding 
properly, so I pulled it apart and some kid must dropped a safety pin in 
there. Right O now the paper was feeding properly but nothing was being 
printed, hmmn me thinks, the cartridges must have dried out, a quick 
search indicates that standing them in hot water may clean em out.
So I give that a whirl and sure enough we have printing but it's still 
not 100% but I am just keeping it as a spare for now.


Hendrik
who hates to throw stuff out unless it is totally beyond any use whatsoever

On 19/04/14 09:19, OK Don wrote:

If you didn't buy it at the apple store, you are supposed to use it. :-)

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Canon Pixma MP 780?  The computer does NOT recognixe this when I connect it
to my IMac.  :((




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Re: [MBZ] Cat Food

2014-04-18 Thread Hendrik and Fay

What about unprocessed junk?

Hendrik
who is catless

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As opposed to processed junk.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

As opposed to fake fish?

Hendrik
whose cat only ate whiskas cat food, both dry and tinned


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How about some real fish.



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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread G Mann
Don,

Thanks for the tip about the testing kit. Where do you find them?

Thanks,

Grant..


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 I bought a testing kit that is an alcohol soluble dye. Put a drop in a
 sample of the gas, agitate, and see whether the sample has changed color
 and whether the drop is still the same size. I test the fuel perhaps every
 other month that goes into the Cessna from the usual station, and before
 pumping much from new stations.

 On Thursday, April 17, 2014, Kevin Allen Kraly kevinpadd...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  How do you make sure that the gasoline that you're buying is not
  contaminated with ethanol?  The Toyota Sienna Minivan got a fillip of
  premium  today.  I read some time ago on this list that premium gas isn't
  blended.  I don't want  any gas containing ethanol
   in the van  since it doesn't get driven much.
 
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Re: [MBZ] ULSD now Ethanol

2014-04-18 Thread Fmiser
 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 
 Here's a better explanation of the test suggested previously
 which is simply based on the affinity of alcohol for water; no
 complex chemistry involved.

Thanks!  This one makes sense.

 Therefore, any deviation in the water line indicates the presence
 of ethanol and should serve as a basis for rejecting the fuel.

I'm going to speak up again.

For nearly 30 years I have been using ethanol blend gasoline
[petrol].  I began seeking it out and have used it almost
exclusively for 25 years.  I tried it way back then and discovered
the carburetor maintenance on my cars went _way_ down with the
blend.  Since then, I have used it for cars, lawn mowers,
chainsaws, line trimmers, etc.  Some of the mowers have repeatedly
sat for 6 to 8 months with fuel in the tank.  I often mix a
stabilizer (Stabil initially, more recently Sea Foam) with the two
stroke - but not always.

In those 25 years I cannot blame the fuel for even one problem with
any of the engines.  Zero.

Yet there are a lot of people who claim lots of problems caused by
ethanol.  I don't understand why my experience is _so_ different.

All these tales of woe are making me nervous - yet my experiences
suggest I should keep doing what I have been.

--   Philip,  puzzled.

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