Re: [MBZ] What''s Happened?
Check your spam folder. My email bounces email from Curt a lot of the time. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Larry Turner Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 10:49 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] What''s Happened? Hi Gang! I haven't rec'd any MB messages since 6AM aPR 30. i tried to re-subscribe but was told I was already subscribed. I started my W124 Evap R&R and hit a snag or 2. Any suggestions for turning the list on again? A List Mom knows of the problem so maybe they'll fix it ;-) LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] What''s Happened?
Hi Gang! I haven't rec'd any MB messages since 6AM aPR 30. i tried to re-subscribe but was told I was already subscribed. I started my W124 Evap R&R and hit a snag or 2. Any suggestions for turning the list on again? A List Mom knows of the problem so maybe they'll fix it ;-) LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S124 Hatch latch.
Friend used to think he had to help me get my scooter in and out of trunk/boot of my 124. 'Seems he couldn't wait to slam it closed. 'Took a while for 'im to heed my instructions to please let me do it all by myself, and "please don't slam the lid on my hand." Then I would smoothly and easily lower the lid and merely lower it quietly and smoothly and press it gently for the last clear "click" of the latch - no slamming necessary. SWMBO can't get it straight, either - slams it every time she closes it, and every time, I say, "Oh!" But she still doesn't "'get" it. Bomb bay doors on B-52's operate very fast via 3000 psi hydraulic pressure, but they don't slam violently for the last very short distance before latching; movement to the latch is fast, but the latching itself is much slower and firmer - they don't slam fully closed. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Hendrik and Fay" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S124 Hatch latch. The 'good neigbhour' quiet closing system was introduced for the 124 wagons, presumably because MB was getting feedback that 'slamming' the rear door shut at un Godly hours is a big no no. Also if someone slams the rear door shut whilst you're sitting in the car, it is not a pleasant feeling. I try to educate my dear family that there is no need for banging down the door, they do it gently once or twice and then it's bang bang again until I drop a valve again, it's a vicious circle. Perhaps if you had owned an S124, you would understand that the system is not unnecessary. Did the bomb bay doors on the B-52's shut gently or did they slam shut and shake the plane? As far as what the problem with them may be, could be the micro switch that tells the motor to start motoring and suck in the door. The door will still shut but maybe only into stage 1 but don't worry you can drive these things with the rear door open and you won't even notice it, well Fay didn't. Also I wonder why they did not extend this system to the other doors, I know the 140 had them but then they abandoned that after the 140, did they not? On a semi related note, I was watching an ep of the mythbusters yesterday, one of the myths was that a big sound system could break all the windows. So they grabbed an old 126 SD and built a giant speaker into it, which was actuated via a linkage from the back of the gearbox, so it would move up and down. The expectation was that the sound pressure would pop out/break one of the windows but it was the sunroof which gave out first and released the pressure. The funny thing was that the other myth being tested was that driving a car faster over a rough road would make the ride smoother, they used a cutlass for that and I thought to myself, if they used the 126 for the smooth ride and the cutlass for the sound thingy, things may well have been different. Hendrik who has the first world problem of having to manually shut doors all they way, except for one On 28/04/14 22:07, WILTON wrote: Yep. 'Had that thought, but didn't know that car had such unnecessary "feature." Anything to run the cost on up, I guess. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Fred Moir" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch. Wilton.Could be the "Pull the door closed" thingummibob.Fred. From: wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 18:56:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch. Locking actuator or locking system supply pump? Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Jaime!!!
Quick before Andrew snaps it up! Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
Two events I enjoyed were a visit to the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Automobile Museum when we belonged to the Cincinnati section and a visit to the Vance AL factory when a member of the FL Panhandle section. But most events were social. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime > Kopchinski > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 7:52 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts > > I think its sad that a car club hosts so few car events. The Northern NJ > section does the June Jamboree, which is pretty nice. You can bring any > level of car, walk around, talk about cars... you know, car club stuff. > But its a big production. But most of the other events are of no > interest > to me. > > I'd like to begin lobbying for more car-centric events. There are loads > of > old Mercedes around here... there must be some interest. Sunday morning > cars and coffee seems like a worthwhile activity. > > Jaime > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] S124 Hatch latch.
The 'good neigbhour' quiet closing system was introduced for the 124 wagons, presumably because MB was getting feedback that 'slamming' the rear door shut at un Godly hours is a big no no. Also if someone slams the rear door shut whilst you're sitting in the car, it is not a pleasant feeling. I try to educate my dear family that there is no need for banging down the door, they do it gently once or twice and then it's bang bang again until I drop a valve again, it's a vicious circle. Perhaps if you had owned an S124, you would understand that the system is not unnecessary. Did the bomb bay doors on the B-52's shut gently or did they slam shut and shake the plane? As far as what the problem with them may be, could be the micro switch that tells the motor to start motoring and suck in the door. The door will still shut but maybe only into stage 1 but don't worry you can drive these things with the rear door open and you won't even notice it, well Fay didn't. Also I wonder why they did not extend this system to the other doors, I know the 140 had them but then they abandoned that after the 140, did they not? On a semi related note, I was watching an ep of the mythbusters yesterday, one of the myths was that a big sound system could break all the windows. So they grabbed an old 126 SD and built a giant speaker into it, which was actuated via a linkage from the back of the gearbox, so it would move up and down. The expectation was that the sound pressure would pop out/break one of the windows but it was the sunroof which gave out first and released the pressure. The funny thing was that the other myth being tested was that driving a car faster over a rough road would make the ride smoother, they used a cutlass for that and I thought to myself, if they used the 126 for the smooth ride and the cutlass for the sound thingy, things may well have been different. Hendrik who has the first world problem of having to manually shut doors all they way, except for one On 28/04/14 22:07, WILTON wrote: Yep. 'Had that thought, but didn't know that car had such unnecessary "feature." Anything to run the cost on up, I guess. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Fred Moir" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch. Wilton.Could be the "Pull the door closed" thingummibob.Fred. From: wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 18:56:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch. Locking actuator or locking system supply pump? Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Andrew!!!
A 1985 300TD close by: http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/4450466531.html Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee this morning
--R wrote: > Tell us more about the brewery, etc. Yes, we need to visit BowTruss coffee roasters this year. Stick around so we can talk with you about a time that is convenient for you. And now a brewery? - nice. What is the name of the brewery? Any distribution waay west of the city? Thanks for the news. I hope (again - we didn't see you last year...) to see you this year. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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BTW, Larry, how's your CIDP? Are you able to stand or walk safely without aid? Any tremor in hands? Do you have good control of your fingers and hands? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Larry Turner" To: Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 1:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 Evaporator R&R Hi All - I started this project this morning and after approx 5 hours I have the dash and console out. Actually I started yesterday evening but I am counting those hours.No big surprises except the air passages on each side of the evap were difficult to break loose. Also, it took a while to become comfortable working with stuff I have never worked on before. I found the directions from Wilton and PeachParts forum to be very helpful but a few things have changed since the 87 they used as an example. Not hugely different from my 91 W124, but enough to make it interesting. I came in to take a rest and research the details of pulling the HVAC box from the dash to minimize the problems. Thanks again to those who took the time and effort to put their experience in writing - it was/is _*very *_helpful! I think I broke a couple of the clips that hold parts into the dash but those are minor problems. For a job that has a flat rate of 14-17 hours I believe I am pretty close to schedule considering I have ni experience doing this. Thanks again - Larry T 91 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
Mr anderson had a thing for french cars including one with a toilet in it! How appropriate! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dwight Giles To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2014 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts Fred, Ask dimitri but I think they have a street category. These are not their cars but participants. Costs 10 to enter I think but you can attend without entering. I didn't see any MB's in the museum. Mr anderson had a thing for french cars including one with a toilet in it! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
Fred, Ask dimitri but I think they have a street category. These are not their cars but participants. Costs 10 to enter I think but you can attend without entering. I didn't see any MB's in the museum. Mr anderson had a thing for french cars including one with a toilet in it! On May 2, 2014 5:10 PM, "Frederick Moir" wrote: > Dwight. > Hey, I'll go. It's my birthday. > I will have to come by taxi or public trans, they won't want my beater > anywhere near their fancy cars. > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred. > > > > From: Dwight Giles > To: Mercedes Discussion List ; John Peterson < > immersionstu...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 4:18 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts > > > For those in New Englad & northeast Sunday September 28 is Mercrdes Day at > the Larz Anderson Auto Museum, two weeks after chowdahQ. Maybe we vould > have a second gathering there. > Dimitri won an award for his Pagoda last year. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
Dwight. Hey, I'll go. It's my birthday. I will have to come by taxi or public trans, they won't want my beater anywhere near their fancy cars. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dwight Giles To: Mercedes Discussion List ; John Peterson Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts For those in New Englad & northeast Sunday September 28 is Mercrdes Day at the Larz Anderson Auto Museum, two weeks after chowdahQ. Maybe we vould have a second gathering there. Dimitri won an award for his Pagoda last year. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
For those in New Englad & northeast Sunday September 28 is Mercrdes Day at the Larz Anderson Auto Museum, two weeks after chowdahQ. Maybe we vould have a second gathering there. Dimitri won an award for his Pagoda last year. On May 2, 2014 3:48 PM, "clay" wrote: > Yeah, the Seattle section was overly heavy on the social stuff for a > number of years due to a lack of somebody with a tech interest. The > leadership and drivers were content to have three or four drives each year. > Maybe an annual awards meeting and holiday dinner to augment the August > Show and Shine. > > Last year things picked up. We had events with other sections, went to > private collector garages, racing shops, LeMay car museum, more local > dealerships, and more of the restoration variety. > > clay > > > On May 2, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > > I tried this approach some years back when I first arrived in the area. > I was met with so much resistance despite Scott's assistance and > encouragement that I tossed in the towel and left. The membership of the > local section was so heavily engaged in having social events and had no > interest whatsoever in car related activities, or for that matter, tech > related things to the point where they considered my efforts a threat. > > > > This was part of the impetus for my involvement at the national level > with Kathy and the semiannual tech sessions. > > > > Dan > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On May 2, 2014, at 11:31 AM, David Bruckmann < > bruckma...@transcontinental.ca> wrote: > >> > >> The event frequency really depends on the region, and the weather. > >> > >> The SF Bay Area section has something just about every month, and there > are also the monthly "First Sunday Drives" which are very well done. > >> > >> We've toured numerous local sites, some of which were car-related but > most of which weren't. Everything from visiting the Tesla factory (and > driving the cars!) to walking amongst the elephant seals on the beach, > visiting goat farms, wineries, museums etc. > >> > >> It's worth remembering that all of this is volunteer-driven. So the > solution to having more events is simple: organize them yourself as a > member. > >> > >> Having been a member of many clubs for various marques, the level of > activity is always a simple reflection of certain members who always end up > doing all the work. > >> > >> If your club section is inactive, it's probably because the handful of > people who had been organizing everything for years finally burnt out and > gave up. That's what typically happens. Then people start to wonder why the > club exists. > >> > >> So the best way to change this is to become active instead of waiting > for someone else to do everything for you. > >> > >> An active membership begets an active membership: self-fulfilling cycle. > >> > >> D. > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
You "make ChowdaQ happen". Left to my own devices I'd sit around all day and drink coffee. Somebody needs to direct as it were and you're it. Be glad that all it takes is renting the space and expecting me to show up. :) Speaking of motivation, my 20th high school reunion is this year. I've been battling my weight for a long time now (down 20# since 2001, I'm not rushing it :) ) and decided this is as good a time as ever to crack the 200# barrier. I've managed to keep myself around (mostly just over) 205# for a year, I've drifted as low as 204. I remember getting my first hunting license and being at 205 so it was a good mental milestone. 200 is a nice round number and cracking it should let me wear 34" pants comfortably. The reunion is in August so I've got plenty of time. This week I've been working on cutting back snacks and getting more motion. I've gone for 3 "runs" which are really more like "lumbering jog/walks" but I'll take what I can get. Buster isn't pleased with the runs, he prefers a leisurely stroll/sniff... -Curt Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 15:47:28 -0400 From: Dwight Giles To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Curt, maybe you can make us some chowdahQ decals. And it's not true thst I do the chowdahQ. a lot of us are involved. I just rent the site & put out the notices. I don't even make the chowda anymore. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
Yeah, the Seattle section was overly heavy on the social stuff for a number of years due to a lack of somebody with a tech interest. The leadership and drivers were content to have three or four drives each year. Maybe an annual awards meeting and holiday dinner to augment the August Show and Shine. Last year things picked up. We had events with other sections, went to private collector garages, racing shops, LeMay car museum, more local dealerships, and more of the restoration variety. clay On May 2, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > I tried this approach some years back when I first arrived in the area. I was > met with so much resistance despite Scott's assistance and encouragement that > I tossed in the towel and left. The membership of the local section was so > heavily engaged in having social events and had no interest whatsoever in car > related activities, or for that matter, tech related things to the point > where they considered my efforts a threat. > > This was part of the impetus for my involvement at the national level with > Kathy and the semiannual tech sessions. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 2, 2014, at 11:31 AM, David Bruckmann >> wrote: >> >> The event frequency really depends on the region, and the weather. >> >> The SF Bay Area section has something just about every month, and there are >> also the monthly "First Sunday Drives" which are very well done. >> >> We've toured numerous local sites, some of which were car-related but most >> of which weren't. Everything from visiting the Tesla factory (and driving >> the cars!) to walking amongst the elephant seals on the beach, visiting goat >> farms, wineries, museums etc. >> >> It's worth remembering that all of this is volunteer-driven. So the solution >> to having more events is simple: organize them yourself as a member. >> >> Having been a member of many clubs for various marques, the level of >> activity is always a simple reflection of certain members who always end up >> doing all the work. >> >> If your club section is inactive, it's probably because the handful of >> people who had been organizing everything for years finally burnt out and >> gave up. That's what typically happens. Then people start to wonder why the >> club exists. >> >> So the best way to change this is to become active instead of waiting for >> someone else to do everything for you. >> >> An active membership begets an active membership: self-fulfilling cycle. >> >> D. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has >> no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has > no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
Curt, maybe you can make us some chowdahQ decals. And it's not true thst I do the chowdahQ. a lot of us are involved. I just rent the site & put out the notices. I don't even make the chowda anymore. On May 2, 2014 1:15 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > In my experience this is pretty much how it goes in a volunteer run > things. If it weren't for Dwight ChowdaQ wouldn't have ever gotten off the > ground. I certainly couldn't pull it off, I tried once and failed after > all, of course it did rain... > > -Curt > > Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 08:31:29 -0700 > From: David Bruckmann > To: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts > Message-ID: <0a6e0e1f-5de0-42b2-8d6a-3bd1d2942...@transcontinental.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > > The event frequency really depends on the region, and the weather. > > The SF Bay Area section has something just about every month, and there > are also the monthly "First Sunday Drives" which are very well done. > > We've toured numerous local sites, some of which were car-related but most > of which weren't. Everything from visiting the Tesla factory (and driving > the cars!) to walking amongst the elephant seals on the beach, visiting > goat farms, wineries, museums etc. > > It's worth remembering that all of this is volunteer-driven. So the > solution to having more events is simple: organize them yourself as a > member. > > Having been a member of many clubs for various marques, the level of > activity is always a simple reflection of certain members who always end up > doing all the work. > > If your club section is inactive, it's probably because the handful of > people who had been organizing everything for years finally burnt out and > gave up. That's what typically happens. Then people start to wonder why the > club exists. > > So the best way to change this is to become active instead of waiting for > someone else to do everything for you. > > An active membership begets an active membership: self-fulfilling cycle. > > D. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers
The Saga continues. DBAG no longer makes the ignition lock, just the tumbler and key. W116 and W107 are S.O.L. if you need one from the factory. Chinese now manu-fake a replacement that can be sourced for under $200, but not from the dealer. I ordered the tumbler and coded key at the dealer. They have no idea when the dark elves from the Black Forest will be able to forge it from their mighty smithies. In the meanwhile, I had hoped to get a locksmith to pick the lock or jigger it so I could get the tumbler free. The locksmith said they send Mercedes to my indy for lock jobs. So, I gave them a call. Instead of the $1500 to drill out the part, the indy will do it all for $300 labor and they even found a NOS ignition lock body in NorCal. I just may be able to drive before the end of the season. clay On Apr 26, 2014, at 3:43 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: > I've had a locksmith successfully rekey a 107 door tumbler, so I don't see > why not. > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:36 PM, clay wrote: > >> I went to the dealer to order a fresh tumbler for Froggy. We spent a half >> hour on the EPC trying to figure out what the heck to do . The datac ard >> does not show for the car, and the parts are not available anymore. There >> were five tumbler options and they all showed as being substituted to >> another part that is not available. The next step substituted to having to >> replace the whole lock system, but that was not able to get ordered and >> said to purchase a replacement steering column. That is not available. >> >> Parts guy plans to call Germany or maybe a Unicorn breeder so he can >> understand how to resolve the issue. I am thinking the early R107 and the >> W116 share an ignition lock. If there are problems getting replacement >> parts, all the 1970's cars are ticking time bombs. >> >> Anybody think a lock smith can rebuild the original? >> >> >> clay > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
I signed up #1 boy with his 300SE. Give him an opportunity to learn more about the marque and maybe get involved. National is a waste of bandwidth, local crowd has been very good about events for the tech as well as driving fans. Lots of restoration stuff like veneering, plating, upholstery, as well as engine care and detailing. clay On May 1, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > Hmm I have been thinking about joining after 12 years. But then I am always > a day late & a dollar short. > On May 1, 2014 8:24 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > >> My thoughts, too; put the money on the car. >> Or send it to me; I'll put it on grandchildren's education. ;<) >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 7:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts >> >> >> Take the money and put it towards your car. A far better investment. >>> >>> How much is a membership these days? >>> >>> Banned Dan >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: >>> >>> I've belonged to MBCA since my first Benz in the 80s. But now I'm thinking of dropping membership. Little in the Star is useful for driving or maintaining my 82 SD and frankly I don't have the time (or maybe the interest) to read the rest of the magazine. I don't have much interest in meetings or events. I can learn what I need online and at OkiBenz. What do others here think? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >>> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner >>> has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner >> has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has > no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee this morning
Tell us more about the brewery, etc. Planting my hops plantation tomorrow morning! --R On 5/2/14 1:08 PM, Darren Marshall wrote: or the brewery we're opening shortly in Bowmanville/Andersonville, where we have a nice little parking lot Darren 312-208-4328 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Darren Marshall wrote: long time no see guys, happy to host one at Bow Truss in Lakeview if ya'll want to organize :) Darren 312-208-4328 On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Will do, but not sure it would be worth the trip. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Apr 26, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Let me know for the next, I'll try to join you. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
AKathy Bob R Remembering the old days On May 2, 2014 9:54 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > I tried this approach some years back when I first arrived in the area. I > was met with so much resistance despite Scott's assistance and > encouragement that I tossed in the towel and left. The membership of the > local section was so heavily engaged in having social events and had no > interest whatsoever in car related activities, or for that matter, tech > related things to the point where they considered my efforts a threat. > > This was part of the impetus for my involvement at the national level with > Kathy and the semiannual tech sessions. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On May 2, 2014, at 11:31 AM, David Bruckmann < > bruckma...@transcontinental.ca> wrote: > > > > The event frequency really depends on the region, and the weather. > > > > The SF Bay Area section has something just about every month, and there > are also the monthly "First Sunday Drives" which are very well done. > > > > We've toured numerous local sites, some of which were car-related but > most of which weren't. Everything from visiting the Tesla factory (and > driving the cars!) to walking amongst the elephant seals on the beach, > visiting goat farms, wineries, museums etc. > > > > It's worth remembering that all of this is volunteer-driven. So the > solution to having more events is simple: organize them yourself as a > member. > > > > Having been a member of many clubs for various marques, the level of > activity is always a simple reflection of certain members who always end up > doing all the work. > > > > If your club section is inactive, it's probably because the handful of > people who had been organizing everything for years finally burnt out and > gave up. That's what typically happens. Then people start to wonder why the > club exists. > > > > So the best way to change this is to become active instead of waiting > for someone else to do everything for you. > > > > An active membership begets an active membership: self-fulfilling cycle. > > > > D. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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ATTABOY! Just be careful; you don't hafta set a record. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Larry Turner" To: Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 1:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 Evaporator R&R Hi All - I started this project this morning and after approx 5 hours I have the dash and console out. Actually I started yesterday evening but I am counting those hours.No big surprises except the air passages on each side of the evap were difficult to break loose. Also, it took a while to become comfortable working with stuff I have never worked on before. I found the directions from Wilton and PeachParts forum to be very helpful but a few things have changed since the 87 they used as an example. Not hugely different from my 91 W124, but enough to make it interesting. I came in to take a rest and research the details of pulling the HVAC box from the dash to minimize the problems. Thanks again to those who took the time and effort to put their experience in writing - it was/is _*very *_helpful! I think I broke a couple of the clips that hold parts into the dash but those are minor problems. For a job that has a flat rate of 14-17 hours I believe I am pretty close to schedule considering I have ni experience doing this. Thanks again - Larry T 91 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Dropped from list once again ---
Can someone help me stay on the list? I will resub now but don't want to have to do this every day... Thanks! LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
In my experience this is pretty much how it goes in a volunteer run things. If it weren't for Dwight ChowdaQ wouldn't have ever gotten off the ground. I certainly couldn't pull it off, I tried once and failed after all, of course it did rain... -Curt Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 08:31:29 -0700 From: David Bruckmann To: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts Message-ID: <0a6e0e1f-5de0-42b2-8d6a-3bd1d2942...@transcontinental.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The event frequency really depends on the region, and the weather. The SF Bay Area section has something just about every month, and there are also the monthly "First Sunday Drives" which are very well done. We've toured numerous local sites, some of which were car-related but most of which weren't. Everything from visiting the Tesla factory (and driving the cars!) to walking amongst the elephant seals on the beach, visiting goat farms, wineries, museums etc. It's worth remembering that all of this is volunteer-driven. So the solution to having more events is simple: organize them yourself as a member. Having been a member of many clubs for various marques, the level of activity is always a simple reflection of certain members who always end up doing all the work. If your club section is inactive, it's probably because the handful of people who had been organizing everything for years finally burnt out and gave up. That's what typically happens. Then people start to wonder why the club exists. So the best way to change this is to become active instead of waiting for someone else to do everything for you. An active membership begets an active membership: self-fulfilling cycle. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee this morning
or the brewery we're opening shortly in Bowmanville/Andersonville, where we have a nice little parking lot Darren 312-208-4328 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Darren Marshall wrote: > long time no see guys, happy to host one at Bow Truss in Lakeview if ya'll > want to organize :) > > Darren > 312-208-4328 > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Rich Thomas < > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > >> Will do, but not sure it would be worth the trip. >> >> --R (sent from my miniPad) >> >> On Apr 26, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: >> >> Let me know for the next, I'll try to join you. >> >> Max Dillon, >> Charleston SC >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner >> has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner >> has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. >> > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cars and Coffee this morning
long time no see guys, happy to host one at Bow Truss in Lakeview if ya'll want to organize :) Darren 312-208-4328 On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > Will do, but not sure it would be worth the trip. > > --R (sent from my miniPad) > > On Apr 26, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: > > Let me know for the next, I'll try to join you. > > Max Dillon, > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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Hi All - I started this project this morning and after approx 5 hours I have the dash and console out. Actually I started yesterday evening but I am counting those hours.No big surprises except the air passages on each side of the evap were difficult to break loose. Also, it took a while to become comfortable working with stuff I have never worked on before. I found the directions from Wilton and PeachParts forum to be very helpful but a few things have changed since the 87 they used as an example. Not hugely different from my 91 W124, but enough to make it interesting. I came in to take a rest and research the details of pulling the HVAC box from the dash to minimize the problems. Thanks again to those who took the time and effort to put their experience in writing - it was/is _*very *_helpful! I think I broke a couple of the clips that hold parts into the dash but those are minor problems. For a job that has a flat rate of 14-17 hours I believe I am pretty close to schedule considering I have ni experience doing this. Thanks again - Larry T 91 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
I tried this approach some years back when I first arrived in the area. I was met with so much resistance despite Scott's assistance and encouragement that I tossed in the towel and left. The membership of the local section was so heavily engaged in having social events and had no interest whatsoever in car related activities, or for that matter, tech related things to the point where they considered my efforts a threat. This was part of the impetus for my involvement at the national level with Kathy and the semiannual tech sessions. Dan Sent from my iPad > On May 2, 2014, at 11:31 AM, David Bruckmann > wrote: > > The event frequency really depends on the region, and the weather. > > The SF Bay Area section has something just about every month, and there are > also the monthly "First Sunday Drives" which are very well done. > > We've toured numerous local sites, some of which were car-related but most of > which weren't. Everything from visiting the Tesla factory (and driving the > cars!) to walking amongst the elephant seals on the beach, visiting goat > farms, wineries, museums etc. > > It's worth remembering that all of this is volunteer-driven. So the solution > to having more events is simple: organize them yourself as a member. > > Having been a member of many clubs for various marques, the level of activity > is always a simple reflection of certain members who always end up doing all > the work. > > If your club section is inactive, it's probably because the handful of people > who had been organizing everything for years finally burnt out and gave up. > That's what typically happens. Then people start to wonder why the club > exists. > > So the best way to change this is to become active instead of waiting for > someone else to do everything for you. > > An active membership begets an active membership: self-fulfilling cycle. > > D. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has > no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Quiet List?
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Randy Bennell wrote: > > Does it rain much where you are Mitch? >> >> My '98 F150 had an issue with the GEM. >> >> The windshield leaked and dripped onto it causing all sorts of odd >> behaviour. >> >> > AFAIK the car's been dry. > The van has started every try since, and (according to the computer) is running at a reasonable voltage. I am now suspecting I have a short somewhere that comes out in the rain, it was very wet the night before the no-start. Thanks for the idea! Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
The event frequency really depends on the region, and the weather. The SF Bay Area section has something just about every month, and there are also the monthly "First Sunday Drives" which are very well done. We've toured numerous local sites, some of which were car-related but most of which weren't. Everything from visiting the Tesla factory (and driving the cars!) to walking amongst the elephant seals on the beach, visiting goat farms, wineries, museums etc. It's worth remembering that all of this is volunteer-driven. So the solution to having more events is simple: organize them yourself as a member. Having been a member of many clubs for various marques, the level of activity is always a simple reflection of certain members who always end up doing all the work. If your club section is inactive, it's probably because the handful of people who had been organizing everything for years finally burnt out and gave up. That's what typically happens. Then people start to wonder why the club exists. So the best way to change this is to become active instead of waiting for someone else to do everything for you. An active membership begets an active membership: self-fulfilling cycle. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
Hey . . . . I did not even have to pay for the decal. My old car came with one. I guess a previous owner paid for that one. On 01/05/2014 8:27 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Heyyou get one of those fancy window decals for your $45 Bob R Who had been a MBCA member for 12 years before bailing 4 years ago On May 1, 2014 6:14 PM, "Dwight Giles" wrote: Well I work in education so I could just keep it in my salary. Besides no MBCA gathering could rival the ChowdahQ. Ok you convinced me not to join. On May 1, 2014 8:55 PM, "WILTON" wrote: The money would do the world a lot better good to help educate my three mighty fine grandchildren. ;<) One in grad school in France, one a straight-A senior in bio/environmental management at NC State U and one a straight-A fourth-grader here in Goldsboro, NC. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dwight Giles" < dwight.gi...@gmail.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts Hmm I have been thinking about joining after 12 years. But then I am always a day late & a dollar short. On May 1, 2014 8:24 PM, "WILTON" wrote: My thoughts, too; put the money on the car. Or send it to me; I'll put it on grandchildren's education. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts Take the money and put it towards your car. A far better investment. How much is a membership these days? Banned Dan On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: I've belonged to MBCA since my first Benz in the 80s. But now I'm thinking of dropping membership. Little in the Star is useful for driving or maintaining my 82 SD and frankly I don't have the time (or maybe the interest) to read the rest of the magazine. I don't have much interest in meetings or events. I can learn what I need online and at OkiBenz. What do others here think? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of indi
Re: [MBZ] Quiet List?
Original Message From: Dan PenoffSent: Friday, May 2, 2014 4:48 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Quiet List?Let's not revisit the past, please.We revisit the past every time we discuss these old cars. :) A pleasant visit at that. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
That's one of the reasons I never got that involved with my chapter. For the most part it was a social club for dinner gatherings and nothing else. Scott Suits, our area director and a great guy, really worked hard to get things going, but if there are one or two car related things going on in a year that's a lot. I can't say that I have ever seen them do a tech session. Add to this that everything is centered around the dealer in St. Pete, which is a logistical issue as it's a tough place to get to and not at all centralized for the area. An hour's drive for me one way. If they would use MB of Tampa it would be more centrally located and they would probably have a better turnout, I would think. Last year the only car related event I know of was an "auto cross" (and I use that term loosely) where they started in St. Pete at a Panera's and ended up in Holiday at a German restaurant. I think seven or eight cars participated. Dan Sent from my iPad > On May 2, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > > I think its sad that a car club hosts so few car events. The Northern NJ > section does the June Jamboree, which is pretty nice. You can bring any > level of car, walk around, talk about cars... you know, car club stuff. > But its a big production. But most of the other events are of no interest > to me. > > I'd like to begin lobbying for more car-centric events. There are loads of > old Mercedes around here... there must be some interest. Sunday morning > cars and coffee seems like a worthwhile activity. > > Jaime > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > >> Member since 1986, just recently lapsed and debating whether to renew... >> >> >> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Dwight Giles >> wrote: >> >>> I don't need any more window decals. I was attracted by the member >> discount >>> at the stealers but i never go there any more. On May 1, 2014 9:27 PM, "Bob Rentfro" wrote: Heyyou get one of those fancy window decals for your $45 Bob R Who had been a MBCA member for 12 years before bailing 4 years ago > On May 1, 2014 6:14 PM, "Dwight Giles" wrote: > > Well I work in education so I could just keep it in my salary. >> Besides >>> no > MBCA gathering could rival the ChowdahQ. Ok you convinced me not to >>> join. >> On May 1, 2014 8:55 PM, "WILTON" wrote: >> >> The money would do the world a lot better good to help educate my >>> three >> mighty fine grandchildren. ;<) >> One in grad school in France, one a straight-A senior in > bio/environmental >> management at NC State U and one a straight-A fourth-grader here in >> Goldsboro, NC. ;<) >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - From: "Dwight Giles" < > dwight.gi...@gmail.com> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts >> >> >> Hmm I have been thinking about joining after 12 years. But then I >> am >>> always >>> a day late & a dollar short. >>> On May 1, 2014 8:24 PM, "WILTON" wrote: >>> >>> My thoughts, too; put the money on the car. Or send it to me; I'll put it on grandchildren's education. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts Take the money and put it towards your car. A far better investment. > > How much is a membership these days? > > Banned Dan > > On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: > > I've belonged to MBCA since my first Benz in the 80s. But now >>> I'm > >> thinking >> of dropping membership. Little in the Star is useful for >> driving or >> maintaining my 82 SD and frankly I don't have the time (or >> maybe the >> interest) to read the rest of the magazine. I don't have much > interest >> in >> meetings or events. I can learn what I need online and at >>> OkiBenz. >> What do >> others here think? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as >> such, > those >> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The >>> list >> owner >> has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > __
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
Yeah I really wish more mainstream and regular car events such as cars and coffee would become a reality. These long drawn out drives to fancy places require too much planning and take too much time and are too infrequent. Sent from my iPhone > On May 2, 2014, at 7:52 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > > I think its sad that a car club hosts so few car events. The Northern NJ > section does the June Jamboree, which is pretty nice. You can bring any > level of car, walk around, talk about cars... you know, car club stuff. > But its a big production. But most of the other events are of no interest > to me. > > I'd like to begin lobbying for more car-centric events. There are loads of > old Mercedes around here... there must be some interest. Sunday morning > cars and coffee seems like a worthwhile activity. > > Jaime > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > >> Member since 1986, just recently lapsed and debating whether to renew... >> >> >> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Dwight Giles >> wrote: >> >>> I don't need any more window decals. I was attracted by the member >> discount >>> at the stealers but i never go there any more. On May 1, 2014 9:27 PM, "Bob Rentfro" wrote: Heyyou get one of those fancy window decals for your $45 Bob R Who had been a MBCA member for 12 years before bailing 4 years ago > On May 1, 2014 6:14 PM, "Dwight Giles" wrote: > > Well I work in education so I could just keep it in my salary. >> Besides >>> no > MBCA gathering could rival the ChowdahQ. Ok you convinced me not to >>> join. >> On May 1, 2014 8:55 PM, "WILTON" wrote: >> >> The money would do the world a lot better good to help educate my >>> three >> mighty fine grandchildren. ;<) >> One in grad school in France, one a straight-A senior in > bio/environmental >> management at NC State U and one a straight-A fourth-grader here in >> Goldsboro, NC. ;<) >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - From: "Dwight Giles" < > dwight.gi...@gmail.com> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts >> >> >> Hmm I have been thinking about joining after 12 years. But then I >> am >>> always >>> a day late & a dollar short. >>> On May 1, 2014 8:24 PM, "WILTON" wrote: >>> >>> My thoughts, too; put the money on the car. Or send it to me; I'll put it on grandchildren's education. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts Take the money and put it towards your car. A far better investment. > > How much is a membership these days? > > Banned Dan > > On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: > > I've belonged to MBCA since my first Benz in the 80s. But now >>> I'm > >> thinking >> of dropping membership. Little in the Star is useful for >> driving or >> maintaining my 82 SD and frankly I don't have the time (or >> maybe the >> interest) to read the rest of the magazine. I don't have much > interest >> in >> meetings or events. I can learn what I need online and at >>> OkiBenz. >> What do >> others here think? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as >> such, > those >> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The >>> list >> owner >> has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The >> list > owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each >>> contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsu
Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts
I think its sad that a car club hosts so few car events. The Northern NJ section does the June Jamboree, which is pretty nice. You can bring any level of car, walk around, talk about cars... you know, car club stuff. But its a big production. But most of the other events are of no interest to me. I'd like to begin lobbying for more car-centric events. There are loads of old Mercedes around here... there must be some interest. Sunday morning cars and coffee seems like a worthwhile activity. Jaime On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Member since 1986, just recently lapsed and debating whether to renew... > > > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Dwight Giles > wrote: > > > I don't need any more window decals. I was attracted by the member > discount > > at the stealers but i never go there any more. > > On May 1, 2014 9:27 PM, "Bob Rentfro" wrote: > > > > > Heyyou get one of those fancy window decals for your $45 > > > > > > Bob R > > > Who had been a MBCA member for 12 years before bailing 4 years ago > > > On May 1, 2014 6:14 PM, "Dwight Giles" wrote: > > > > > > > Well I work in education so I could just keep it in my salary. > Besides > > no > > > > MBCA gathering could rival the ChowdahQ. Ok you convinced me not to > > join. > > > > On May 1, 2014 8:55 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > > > > > > > > > The money would do the world a lot better good to help educate my > > three > > > > > mighty fine grandchildren. ;<) > > > > > One in grad school in France, one a straight-A senior in > > > > bio/environmental > > > > > management at NC State U and one a straight-A fourth-grader here in > > > > > Goldsboro, NC. ;<) > > > > > > > > > > Wilton > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Dwight Giles" < > > > > dwight.gi...@gmail.com> > > > > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:40 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm I have been thinking about joining after 12 years. But then I > am > > > > >> always > > > > >> a day late & a dollar short. > > > > >> On May 1, 2014 8:24 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> My thoughts, too; put the money on the car. > > > > >>> Or send it to me; I'll put it on grandchildren's education. ;<) > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Wilton > > > > >>> > > > > >>> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" > > > > >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > > > >>> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 7:35 PM > > > > >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBCA Thoughts > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Take the money and put it towards your car. A far better > > > investment. > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > How much is a membership these days? > > > > > > > > Banned Dan > > > > > > > > On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: > > > > > > > > I've belonged to MBCA since my first Benz in the 80s. But now > > I'm > > > > > > > > > thinking > > > > > of dropping membership. Little in the Star is useful for > driving > > > or > > > > > maintaining my 82 SD and frankly I don't have the time (or > maybe > > > the > > > > > interest) to read the rest of the magazine. I don't have much > > > > interest > > > > > in > > > > > meetings or events. I can learn what I need online and at > > OkiBenz. > > > > > What do > > > > > others here think? > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as > such, > > > > those > > > > > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The > > list > > > > > owner > > > > > has no control over the content of the messages of each > > > contributor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, > > > those > > > > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The > list > > > > owner > > > > has no control over the content of the messages of each > > contributor. > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ___ > > > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > >>> > > > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > >>> > > > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >
Re: [MBZ] Quiet List?
I think he quit posting when politics were barred on the list, Roger. I don't know if he's still on the list or not. Gerry On 5/1/2014 9:46 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Mao, What happened to Dieselhead? Did I miss something? Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Quiet List?
A rare time when dropping your pants is considered an improvement. Now if you could just get him to pee off the porch! Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On May 01, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Tim Crone wrote: I am hoping to have some time this weekend to check the injectors for Max and hopefully start stripping the extras off the good engine, if the weather stays decent. I was able to work several hours a couple Saturdays ago, but then the 2yo decided to drop his pants and whiz all over the porch. Whee! Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Quiet List?
He is still subscribed. Let's not revisit the past, please. If there is a question about someone being subscribed, just ask and I'll check. Dan On May 1, 2014, at 9:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > What happened to him? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 1, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Mountain Man wrote: >> >> Randy wrote: >>> Are all the old MB's purring along, or have we lost some members? >> >> Yes. >> No more Dieselhead, fwiw. >> mao >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has >> no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has > no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
