Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
You need to find another dealer. W140 parts, no matter how strange, are readily available through MBNA. The only things that are drying up are soft froo-froo parts like floor mats for the coupe. Next time you run into this or even think you can't find something for a W140, let me know and I'll get a definitive answer from my dealer parts guy. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:18 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: We tried that with the local dealer, and they could not source them. Calipers are ok, Dr. fatty got the rotors too. It took a while for him to track them down because EPC had the numbers, but they were not in inventory according to Gary. I think we paid $200 for both rotors clay On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Clay, I’m not sure where you got your information, but I just looked at the EPC and the discs are readily available for that car as are the calipers. They’re a 1404210312, $129/each for the discs. This is for the 300SE 3.2, chassis 140033/140042, correct? Gimme a VIN. I’ll bet the parts are available and in stock at MB. Dan On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:26 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: It is the rare and quite retarded 1992 300SE The car has a few quirks that were addressed in the 1993 edition and then fully standardized after 1994. Brake rotors are special to this model, as are the calipers. The 93 has upgraded braking parts (300 series) but not the same as the standardized 94+ Early engine management and not OBD compliant Biodegradable wire harness that is not the same as used on the 93 (expensive to learn that one) Single year transmission that is not compliant with others in the line up A few other fiddly bits that were transition items from the w126 to the w140. I suspect this was also an early example, so problems were resolved down the line. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Push Car. was: So what do I want?
... G: BIL built a red, 2 place push car for small children that had a handle like a push lawnmower. Each evening the kids wanted a push. That soon got old since they would jerk the steering wheel back and forth and the pusher had to do an energetic dance as the little car moved side to side. I finally tied it on the back of an old Cushman scooter with a long rope and the kids loved their wild side-to-side driving even more. In time they tired of it and went on to other things. I don't remember what happened to the little red car, but the children; now grown and with kids and grandkids of their own; still remember it fondly. Maybe but my thought was of push cars for little folks and that all one needed was a strong father. RB On 05/01/2015 2:05 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:22:10 -0500 WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: NOTHING is more worthless than a car that ya hafta push. Kaleb, Here's one for the quotes page! Craig ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8875 - Release Date: 01/05/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oh my god
Sat, stayed when parked. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ran when parked --R On 1/5/15 10:42 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: 40 mpg; MB engine wasn't good enough for this car, so I had it professionally converted to Chevy V8. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh my god ROFL. Complete with build a car instruction booklet. I'd call it a nightmare but it's far worse. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1. Engine seized, but I can get it running. 2. Air blows ice cold. 3. Hardly any rust [in the missing floor boards]. 4. It will buff right out. Slight parking lot dent in rear quarter panels. 5. Original Mercedes paint. [where ever there is still paint] 6. Slight assembly required. I can show you where everything goes [if I can find it after setting abandoned for the last decade.] 7. Tires have high tread [just slightly dry rotted, but the hold air.] 8. Firm on price, Only a few of these were ever made [and apparently the guy was burned at the stake] Did I leave anything out guys, or does this one get the Darwin Awards for most outrageous listing? On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Free? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oh my god
Ran when parked --R On 1/5/15 10:42 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: 40 mpg; MB engine wasn't good enough for this car, so I had it professionally converted to Chevy V8. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh my god ROFL. Complete with build a car instruction booklet. I'd call it a nightmare but it's far worse. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1. Engine seized, but I can get it running. 2. Air blows ice cold. 3. Hardly any rust [in the missing floor boards]. 4. It will buff right out. Slight parking lot dent in rear quarter panels. 5. Original Mercedes paint. [where ever there is still paint] 6. Slight assembly required. I can show you where everything goes [if I can find it after setting abandoned for the last decade.] 7. Tires have high tread [just slightly dry rotted, but the hold air.] 8. Firm on price, Only a few of these were ever made [and apparently the guy was burned at the stake] Did I leave anything out guys, or does this one get the Darwin Awards for most outrageous listing? On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Free? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Push Car. was: So what do I want?
'Reminds me of the bar that I attached to back of #1 Grandson's bike when I was teaching him to ride 'bout 19 years ago. It was a 20-inch bike and I was having problem bending down slightly to hold back of the seat while running along beside 'im. The bar attached at 2 points, one near top, front of rear fender and another down low near pedals and curving up rearward at a comfortable height for me made the job a lot easier. Another teaching technique that made the process a lot easier was static training (sort of a Link trainer). While standing still beside the bike with rider/student mounted, I'd lean the bike left or right at random while instructing the student, If it leans to the right, turn right; if it leans left, turn left. After they mastered that, we'd start rolling slowly while I'd lean it left or right and make the bike come back up as the student turned in the right direction; if he/she turned the wrong way, I'd make the lean worse. I've found that to be very easy with the children I've taught. Wilton - Original Message - From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 6:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] Push Car. was: So what do I want? ... G: BIL built a red, 2 place push car for small children that had a handle like a push lawnmower. Each evening the kids wanted a push. That soon got old since they would jerk the steering wheel back and forth and the pusher had to do an energetic dance as the little car moved side to side. I finally tied it on the back of an old Cushman scooter with a long rope and the kids loved their wild side-to-side driving even more. In time they tired of it and went on to other things. I don't remember what happened to the little red car, but the children; now grown and with kids and grandkids of their own; still remember it fondly. Maybe but my thought was of push cars for little folks and that all one needed was a strong father. RB On 05/01/2015 2:05 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:22:10 -0500 WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: NOTHING is more worthless than a car that ya hafta push. Kaleb, Here's one for the quotes page! Craig ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8875 - Release Date: 01/05/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oh my god
Good boy! --R On 1/6/15 9:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Sat, stayed when parked. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ran when parked --R On 1/5/15 10:42 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: 40 mpg; MB engine wasn't good enough for this car, so I had it professionally converted to Chevy V8. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com To: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com mailto:g2ma...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oh my god ROFL. Complete with build a car instruction booklet. I'd call it a nightmare but it's far worse. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1. Engine seized, but I can get it running. 2. Air blows ice cold. 3. Hardly any rust [in the missing floor boards]. 4. It will buff right out. Slight parking lot dent in rear quarter panels. 5. Original Mercedes paint. [where ever there is still paint] 6. Slight assembly required. I can show you where everything goes [if I can find it after setting abandoned for the last decade.] 7. Tires have high tread [just slightly dry rotted, but the hold air.] 8. Firm on price, Only a few of these were ever made [and apparently the guy was burned at the stake] Did I leave anything out guys, or does this one get the Darwin Awards for most outrageous listing? On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Free? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TOT (totally off topic) Amazing tidal power project in Scotland
I guess I could add a few swear words or political statements and put it on banned... On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Interesting graphic. Looks like it might supply near peak power for 1-2 hours, twice a day, and maybe usable power for 6-8 hours twice a day? I wonder what that does to the grid when the times of production are ever changing, but at least it's predictable, should be even more predictable than solar, so you should be able to ramp up/down a coal or NG plant to balance it. Wind and wave power aren't so predictable. There's no way you can pick up a calendar and say 'peak wind power will be at 3pm on August 15th', but you should be able to make plans like that with tidal power. This sort of stuff is exactly what the banned-lite list was made for. What year did B-L last have a new message posted to it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TOT (totally off topic) Amazing tidal power project in Scotland
400MW sounds like a lot, but I figure it's roughly 10A per household. What is that, one blow drier and a tea kettle per? It sure doesn't go very far! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] TOT (totally off topic) Amazing tidal power project in Scotland
The MeyGen tidal project in Scotland will be the largest tidal power plant in the world once operational. Atlantis, the Australian company that is building it has just received the green light from the government and construction should begin this month. The tidal project will be located in an area that lies in the channel (“Inner Sound”) between the island of Stroma and the north easterly tip of the Scottish mainland, encompassing almost 3.5 square-km of fast flowing water. When MeyGen is fully operational, it should have 269 turbines that produce 398MW of clean energy, generating enough electricity to power 175,000 Scottish homes. http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-energy/worlds-largest-tidal-energy-power-plant-269-turbines-begin-construction-scotland.html#ixzz3O3RRoFZE http://www.care2.com/causes/worlds-largest-tidal-energy-power-plant-to-begin-construction-in-scotland.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TOT (totally off topic) Amazing tidal power project in Scotland
Interesting graphic. Looks like it might supply near peak power for 1-2 hours, twice a day, and maybe usable power for 6-8 hours twice a day? I wonder what that does to the grid when the times of production are ever changing, but at least it's predictable, should be even more predictable than solar, so you should be able to ramp up/down a coal or NG plant to balance it. Wind and wave power aren't so predictable. There's no way you can pick up a calendar and say 'peak wind power will be at 3pm on August 15th', but you should be able to make plans like that with tidal power. This sort of stuff is exactly what the banned-lite list was made for. What year did B-L last have a new message posted to it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TOT (totally off topic) Amazing tidal power project in Scotland
This would be a good solution in conjunction with a pumped storage hydro plant like Northfield Mountain here in MA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northfield_Mountainuse your regularly occurring power to charge your standby plant. I wonder if you could use something like that to run a desalination plant somewhere? Its sure set to make a crapload of power. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] TOT (totally off topic) Amazing tidal power project in Scotland Interesting graphic. Looks like it might supply near peak power for 1-2 hours, twice a day, and maybe usable power for 6-8 hours twice a day? I wonder what that does to the grid when the times of production are ever changing, but at least it's predictable, should be even more predictable than solar, so you should be able to ramp up/down a coal or NG plant to balance it. Wind and wave power aren't so predictable. There's no way you can pick up a calendar and say 'peak wind power will be at 3pm on August 15th', but you should be able to make plans like that with tidal power. This sort of stuff is exactly what the banned-lite list was made for. What year did B-L last have a new message posted to it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Where?? On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We're supposed to get up to half an inch but at 11F its fine powder. Supposed to hit a high of 15F today but I don't believe it. Might make 19F tomorrow but -10F is predicted for tomorrow night. Brrr -Curt We got close to a foot. cold tonight. High tomorrow -7 to -10ºF about 15 below at night. Shoulda stayed in FL. Cold, cloudy and wet there, but not this cold! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Benzin
Coming North on Sat/Sun Benzin was as low as 1.699/gal, with most in the 1.79 to 1.89 range. Most of the fills were in the $25 range, with a couple around $30. Way better than $50 to $60 to fill. Diesel was mostly 2.699 Coming down slowly, but the buck spread is an even higher % then when it was $4 and $5. That is only 25% higher, compared to now 59% higher. ...for a product that is traditionally worth less... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
We have had about foot of snow over the last couple of days and the temps are hovering around 10 degrees. Thank goodness we have had little wind to blow the stuff around. Whitehall, MI Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Jan 06, 2015, at 01:54 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again 'Not trying to make somebody feel bad; severe clear and 57F here in Eastern NC (Goldsboro).;) And Grant and Dan P. are quite tired of having to plow ALL of that sunshine off the drive and walks... Rick Who is near Chicago, where it's fixin' to get REALLY cold. Might get some Lake Effect snow too, for good measure. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
Valero generally thinks different from the rest of the pack. Their MO is to buy up distressed real estate (refineries and stations) and then run them cheap. In the ethanol meltdown a few years ago, they bought up several ethanol refineries. That gives them an edge on E10 Benzin. Don't know if I mentioned it already, but the Valero station on River Road in Bethesda, MD is selling diesel for $2.99, which is surprising since there is no other competition for at least a mile away, where the price is 40 cents higher... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Cold in these parts tonight, relatively speaking. Supposed to get in the low 50s tonight, may even dip into high 40s. Tomorrow night it is supposed to get into the 30s. Br. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We're supposed to get up to half an inch but at 11F its fine powder. Supposed to hit a high of 15F today but I don't believe it. Might make 19F tomorrow but -10F is predicted for tomorrow night. Brrr -Curt We got close to a foot. cold tonight. High tomorrow -7 to -10ºF about 15 below at night. Shoulda stayed in FL. Cold, cloudy and wet there, but not this cold! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
We're supposed to get up to half an inch but at 11F its fine powder. Supposed to hit a high of 15F today but I don't believe it. Might make 19F tomorrow but -10F is predicted for tomorrow night. Brrr -Curt We got close to a foot. cold tonight. High tomorrow -7 to -10ºF about 15 below at night. Shoulda stayed in FL. Cold, cloudy and wet there, but not this cold! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
Interestingly diesel is holding over $3.00 (generally $3.09) in MA but down to $2.93 just over the border in NH. That tells me the MA stations are seriously raping us on price since NH has a higher fuel tax and traditionally prices climb 15-20 cents when I cross the border. Gas is around $2.39 just about everywhere, with the coming of cold weather our slide has slowed but I heard on the radio last night that oil is under $50/barrel so we should see prices continue to slide. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 1:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] Benzin Coming North on Sat/Sun Benzin was as low as 1.699/gal, with most in the 1.79 to 1.89 range. Most of the fills were in the $25 range, with a couple around $30. Way better than $50 to $60 to fill. Diesel was mostly 2.699 Coming down slowly, but the buck spread is an even higher % then when it was $4 and $5. That is only 25% higher, compared to now 59% higher. ...for a product that is traditionally worth less... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
Don't know if I mentioned it already, but the Valero station on River Road in Bethesda, MD is selling diesel for $2.99, which is surprising since there is no other competition for at least a mile away, where the price is 40 cents higher... On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Interestingly diesel is holding over $3.00 (generally $3.09) in MA but down to $2.93 just over the border in NH. That tells me the MA stations are seriously raping us on price since NH has a higher fuel tax and traditionally prices climb 15-20 cents when I cross the border. Gas is around $2.39 just about everywhere, with the coming of cold weather our slide has slowed but I heard on the radio last night that oil is under $50/barrel so we should see prices continue to slide. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 1:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] Benzin Coming North on Sat/Sun Benzin was as low as 1.699/gal, with most in the 1.79 to 1.89 range. Most of the fills were in the $25 range, with a couple around $30. Way better than $50 to $60 to fill. Diesel was mostly 2.699 Coming down slowly, but the buck spread is an even higher % then when it was $4 and $5. That is only 25% higher, compared to now 59% higher. ...for a product that is traditionally worth less... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather
Over the last two weeks we've had minimal sun, unfortunately. Very partly cloudy, if you would. I was doing some touch up spray painting on a couple of parts for the S500 and SL500 over the weekend, and had a tough time getting some sun to help things flash off. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again 'Not trying to make somebody feel bad; severe clear and 57F here in Eastern NC (Goldsboro).;) And Grant and Dan P. are quite tired of having to plow ALL of that sunshine off the drive and walks... Rick Who is near Chicago, where it's fixin' to get REALLY cold. Might get some Lake Effect snow too, for good measure. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
Original Message From: WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again 'Not trying to make somebody feel bad; severe clear and 57F here in Eastern NC (Goldsboro). ;) And Grant and Dan P. are quite tired of having to plow ALL of that sunshine off the drive and walks... Rick Who is near Chicago, where it's fixin' to get REALLY cold. Might get some Lake Effect snow too, for good measure. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
Not making me feel bad, we'll make it up when you're at 100F and 100% humidity this summer :) -Curt From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again 'Not trying to make somebody feel bad; severe clear and 57F here in Eastern NC (Goldsboro). ;) I'm sure we'll get our fair share in time. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again We're supposed to get up to half an inch but at 11F its fine powder. Supposed to hit a high of 15F today but I don't believe it. Might make 19F tomorrow but -10F is predicted for tomorrow night. Brrr -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again I just shoveled 4 of heavy, wet snow off the driveway and cleared off the 1983 white 300TD. Around 27 degrees but my hands got so cold they hurt. I'm reporting from D.C., where traffic ground to a halt this morning as the storm hit just at rush hour. Schools closed, chaos reigned. No trash pickup. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: While out yesterday I stopped and grabbed some diesel-anti gel since the fuel in the car is doubtless at least a couple months old. It said 8oz would treat 25 gallons, I put in 10 to be sure. I also grabbed 2 gallons (they were on sale) of Rain-X orange which claims to be good to -25F which is the coldest we'll see here. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again Attaboy! When i returned to the land of ice and snow Sunday, the washers had frozen up in the van. SInce it will sit for quite some time, they will stay frozen. I have noticed that the crappy blue juice started out as good to 20 below 40 years ago, then was good to 0, then to maybe 20. The last I looked at had no antifreeeze claim whatsoever. THey just take water, add some blue food color to it, and bottle it and sell water for $1.50/jug. A lot of the antifreeze is methanol, so if it sits a few months, the methanol evaporates and you end up with water anyway. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Compression good
I got Curt and Dwight's former 240D to start this am in 14 degree temp. I put it through two 30 sec glow cycles and one 20 sec crank and it fired up. Compression couldn't be that bad! It still does it's weird temp fluctuation thing so I can only drive it around town for now. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] weather
About 0 F here in the GWN. A bit on the windy side though so it feels pretty cold outside. Finally got some snow. We had dribs and drabs but not enough to shovel until last weekend when we got a few inches. Have not had the blower out of the shed yet. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Compression good
It had good compression when i had it tested. Still a mystery on temps. On Jan 6, 2015 1:53 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got Curt and Dwight's former 240D to start this am in 14 degree temp. I put it through two 30 sec glow cycles and one 20 sec crank and it fired up. Compression couldn't be that bad! It still does it's weird temp fluctuation thing so I can only drive it around town for now. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Now that I'm back in the NC Piedmont (where it sometimes snows) I just wait for it to melt. I love retirement. Exactly! I keep the snow shovel on the porch to clear off the steps so we can check the mail, etc., but otherwise just wait for it to melt. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:59:04 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have four snow shovels. The plastic one is best for this type of snow. The forecasters really blew it - 1 or 2 inches is a far cry from the 4 dump that began at 5 AM. Several years ago, we were forecast to get 4 - 6 inches, but got 18. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
They have to be dirt cheap now. Unless you insist on a Mac product... On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Saving up for a new laptop now. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jan 6, 2015 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What did you buy with the savings, Meade? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
I sold my snow blower when I PCSed from Dayton to the FL panhandle. Dayton isn't Minot but I do recall a two-week stretch when it never got above zero F. Now that I'm back in the NC Piedmont (where it sometimes snows) I just wait for it to melt. I love retirement. Original Message From: WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again 'Not trying to make somebody feel bad; severe clear and 57F here in Eastern NC (Goldsboro).;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
What did you buy with the savings, Meade? On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Filled up yesterday, local Shell station had diesel at $2.69. One local grocery chain gives 5 cents credit toward fuel for every $50 spent on groceries, another sells $50 gas cards for $40, one card for every $50 spent. Using both discounts, I had 20 cents off the pump price (price now $2.49), then with the gas card paid an effective price of 80%, or $1.99 per gallon. I can now fill the E300 tank, usually about 21 gallons when the reserve light comes on, for less than $50. Very nice! Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions
The answer is obvious: you should move up to a spacious, sporty W123 turbodiesel station wagon with a third seat. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 2000 BMW 740iL is a wonderful car. BUT, it has 215,000 miles. My wife loves to ride in it when we go visit her older kids down in Ardmore, OK. It's a 4 hour drive from Wichita, and the car really is one of the most comfortable cars for long drives I have ever driven. BUT, as you can imagine with over 200,000 miles and being a 7 series, I am sort of on borrowed time. I know of no specific reason to believe any major problem is going to crop up. But, it is certainly possible. I have had a few minor things (mostly maintenance) that occurred just recently - battery, new tires, radiator, and rear brakes. I still really enjoy the car, but I am considering getting another. I know, I know, you are thinking ok, Snook will have another car in a week. BUT, that is not going to be the case this time. I have learned my lesson about getting rid of a car and then having to buy something in a hurry. I am only going to sell/trade my car when I find something I really want. SO, here is my query to you automotive experts. I want a large car. About the same size as my 7 series. In terms of Mercedes that (I think) limits me to an S class. I had a 126 S Class before and it was a very nice car. However, it was a 300SEL and it always felt underpowered. I know the 420's have the timing chain issue. So, I suppose that would mean I am limited to a 560SEL for a 126. I don't want to go older than 1990. So, that means, only 1990 and 1991 for 126. I would love to have a 350 SD (126 rodbender) if the rods and assorted issues have been resolved. OR, I look at the 140. Here is where I am relatively inexperienced. Which 140's should I avoid? I do not want a V12. What years are best? If the 126 6 Cyl is underpowered, I assume the 6 Cyl 140 is also. I have almost no knowledge of any chassis newer than a 140 and I am too cheap to buy anything newer. Finally, I might consider the ML. It seems like there is a definite line between the good years and the not so good? Where is that line? Donald H. Snook Snook Law LLC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions
I would like to have one, but as a third car. NOT my everyday car. I even like the 124 wagon, but no diesel option there. -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:43 PM To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions The answer is obvious: you should move up to a spacious, sporty W123 turbodiesel station wagon with a third seat. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 2000 BMW 740iL is a wonderful car. BUT, it has 215,000 miles. My wife loves to ride in it when we go visit her older kids down in Ardmore, OK. It's a 4 hour drive from Wichita, and the car really is one of the most comfortable cars for long drives I have ever driven. BUT, as you can imagine with over 200,000 miles and being a 7 series, I am sort of on borrowed time. I know of no specific reason to believe any major problem is going to crop up. But, it is certainly possible. I have had a few minor things (mostly maintenance) that occurred just recently - battery, new tires, radiator, and rear brakes. I still really enjoy the car, but I am considering getting another. I know, I know, you are thinking ok, Snook will have another car in a week. BUT, that is not going to be the case this time. I have learned my lesson about getting rid of a car and then having to buy something in a hurry. I am only going to sell/trade my car when I find something I really want. SO, here is my query to you automotive experts. I want a large car. About the same size as my 7 series. In terms of Mercedes that (I think) limits me to an S class. I had a 126 S Class before and it was a very nice car. However, it was a 300SEL and it always felt underpowered. I know the 420's have the timing chain issue. So, I suppose that would mean I am limited to a 560SEL for a 126. I don't want to go older than 1990. So, that means, only 1990 and 1991 for 126. I would love to have a 350 SD (126 rodbender) if the rods and assorted issues have been resolved. OR, I look at the 140. Here is where I am relatively inexperienced. Which 140's should I avoid? I do not want a V12. What years are best? If the 126 6 Cyl is underpowered, I assume the 6 Cyl 140 is also. I have almost no knowledge of any chassis newer than a 140 and I am too cheap to buy anything newer. Finally, I might consider the ML. It seems like there is a definite line between the good years and the not so good? Where is that line? Donald H. Snook Snook Law LLC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather
No. That's why I'm here. Remember, I moved back to Indiana in 2008 and lived there for two years. Prior to moving to Florida I lived in southeast Wisconsin. I know winter all too well, well enough to know that while no place is perfect, I will gladly dodge the occasional hurricane and live in the heat long before I ever put up with another winter. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You're breaking my heart - not much sun? Washing your car? Wanna trade places? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Oh geez thats not even me getting upset. This is more of a forehead slap. It amazes me that all the folks that have tried to run Amtrak look at things like that and say well thats just fine, can't see any problem here. -Curt From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Easy, now - easy. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fw: Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
I think I drove east-bound through Ottumwa during a blizzard on 1 Mar '60, driving a '51 Chevy pulling a two-wheel trailer loaded with everything we owned. We may have been the only fools on the road - made tracks down middle of the road in new, ungraded snow en route to USAF Officer Candidate School at San Antone, TX, via NC. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Likely with weather much like that at Lincoln, NE: cold with nearly constant blizzard-like wind (feels like that on the flight line, anyway) and snow from the North in winter and oven-like winds from the South in Summer. How I know? B-47E maintenance crew chief there Oct '57 to Mar '60. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather
Bofus. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather No. That's why I'm here. Remember, I moved back to Indiana in 2008 and lived there for two years. Prior to moving to Florida I lived in southeast Wisconsin. I know winter all too well, well enough to know that while no place is perfect, I will gladly dodge the occasional hurricane and live in the heat long before I ever put up with another winter. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You're breaking my heart - not much sun? Washing your car? Wanna trade places? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Compression good
The car is a very early 123 with what I presume is a very early style thermostat housing. We should get Dimitri to get a picture of the thermostat housing, its weird looking... Remember it didn't always do this and when its overheating its bubbling the coolant back out the radiator so its not just a temp gauge variation. My '84 190D temp gauge creeps up sometimes but always drops back down, that one is a gauge gone mad. I've replaced the thermostat, the radiator, and the temp sender but still the issue persists. Now I just ignore it although a dose of water-wetter has helped stabilize it some. -Curt From: fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compression good dseretakis--- wrote: I got Curt and Dwight's former 240D to start this am in 14 degree temp. I put it through two 30 sec glow cycles and one 20 sec crank and it fired up. Compression couldn't be that bad! It still does it's weird temp fluctuation thing so I can only drive it around town for now. What style thermostat housing does this use? 'Cause I have had troubles with the newer style not always sensing the temperature correctly. The fix is a 5 mm or so hole drilled in the thermostat to allow some flow even when cold off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Compression good
I'd use the cathey trick to open the thermostat and see how it runs. Until that is done, it is not much use talking about it. Dimitri, congrats on the good compression engine. Test it with the .45 shellint the thermostat, and report back. I am still betting on a thermostat. (ducking...Yes, I know it is new and has been replaced.) A lot of thermostats are bad out of the box. The car is a very early 123 with what I presume is a very early style thermostat housing. We should get Dimitri to get a picture of the thermostat housing, its weird looking... Remember it didn't always do this and when its overheating its bubbling the coolant back out the radiator so its not just a temp gauge variation. My '84 190D temp gauge creeps up sometimes but always drops back down, that one is a gauge gone mad. I've replaced the thermostat, the radiator, and the temp sender but still the issue persists. Now I just ignore it although a dose of water-wetter has helped stabilize it some. -Curt From: fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compression good dseretakis--- wrote: I got Curt and Dwight's former 240D to start this am in 14 degree temp. I put it through two 30 sec glow cycles and one 20 sec crank and it fired up. Compression couldn't be that bad! It still does it's weird temp fluctuation thing so I can only drive it around town for now. What style thermostat housing does this use? 'Cause I have had troubles with the newer style not always sensing the temperature correctly. The fix is a 5 mm or so hole drilled in the thermostat to allow some flow even when cold off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Thanks. Next time the issue arises, you will be consulted clay On Jan 6, 2015, at 2:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You need to find another dealer. W140 parts, no matter how strange, are readily available through MBNA. The only things that are drying up are soft froo-froo parts like floor mats for the coupe. Next time you run into this or even think you can't find something for a W140, let me know and I'll get a definitive answer from my dealer parts guy. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:18 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: We tried that with the local dealer, and they could not source them. Calipers are ok, Dr. fatty got the rotors too. It took a while for him to track them down because EPC had the numbers, but they were not in inventory according to Gary. I think we paid $200 for both rotors clay On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Clay, I’m not sure where you got your information, but I just looked at the EPC and the discs are readily available for that car as are the calipers. They’re a 1404210312, $129/each for the discs. This is for the 300SE 3.2, chassis 140033/140042, correct? Gimme a VIN. I’ll bet the parts are available and in stock at MB. Dan On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:26 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: It is the rare and quite retarded 1992 300SE The car has a few quirks that were addressed in the 1993 edition and then fully standardized after 1994. Brake rotors are special to this model, as are the calipers. The 93 has upgraded braking parts (300 series) but not the same as the standardized 94+ Early engine management and not OBD compliant Biodegradable wire harness that is not the same as used on the 93 (expensive to learn that one) Single year transmission that is not compliant with others in the line up A few other fiddly bits that were transition items from the w126 to the w140. I suspect this was also an early example, so problems were resolved down the line. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Well, it IS upsetting and frustrating. There is no substitute for common sense in any endeavor. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond To: WILTON ; Diesel List Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Oh geez thats not even me getting upset. This is more of a forehead slap. It amazes me that all the folks that have tried to run Amtrak look at things like that and say well thats just fine, can't see any problem here. -Curt -- From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Easy, now - easy. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather
Yes I am with Curt having lived 8 years in mid-TN in the hot humid Cumberland river valley. Its a big old wonderful world we live in huh? See I wouldn't live in Florida for nothing. Well thats not true but it'd take a lot of money and it'd be a limited time engagement. I can always put on a sweater but if its too hot its too hot. For me too hot starts at about 75F... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather No. That's why I'm here. Remember, I moved back to Indiana in 2008 and lived there for two years. Prior to moving to Florida I lived in southeast Wisconsin. I know winter all too well, well enough to know that while no place is perfect, I will gladly dodge the occasional hurricane and live in the heat long before I ever put up with another winter. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You're breaking my heart - not much sun? Washing your car? Wanna trade places? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Compression good
dseretakis--- wrote: I got Curt and Dwight's former 240D to start this am in 14 degree temp. I put it through two 30 sec glow cycles and one 20 sec crank and it fired up. Compression couldn't be that bad! It still does it's weird temp fluctuation thing so I can only drive it around town for now. What style thermostat housing does this use? 'Cause I have had troubles with the newer style not always sensing the temperature correctly. The fix is a 5 mm or so hole drilled in the thermostat to allow some flow even when cold off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:29:03 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Again, where? You need to keep a list, Andrew. I've answered the question more than once before: Los Alamos, NM. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Gordon MacRae's character in Okiehoma. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again AFAIK Curly McLain is a pseudonym for... Curly McLain. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
My thought, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Sounds like Planes Trains and Automobiles --R On 1/6/15 4:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] In honor of winter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW3byjiWB1M -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - KC-46A
Test bed, no DOD goodies onboard Next one will be well outfitted and have proper wiring and tanks #3 and #4 will be fully built out as all future tankers will. There were major issues with screwed up wiring and beta build troubles. It was a successful four hour flight though clay On Jan 6, 2015, at 12:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: A provisioned Boeing 767-2C freighter took off from Paine Field in Everett, Wash., on Dec. 28, marking the first flight for the KC-46A Pegasus engineering, manufacturing, and development program. The aircraft is the critical building block (prototype) for the KC-46A aerial refueler. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Compression good
I think Dimitri replaced it again. It'd shock me to have THREE thermostats fail exactly the same way. And remember I tested two of them in a pot of boiling water and they both passed... I'm still betting on bottomed out bolts. -Curt From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compression good I'd use the cathey trick to open the thermostat and see how it runs. Until that is done, it is not much use talking about it. Dimitri, congrats on the good compression engine. Test it with the .45 shellint the thermostat, and report back. I am still betting on a thermostat. (ducking...Yes, I know it is new and has been replaced.) A lot of thermostats are bad out of the box. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
Filled up yesterday, local Shell station had diesel at $2.69. One local grocery chain gives 5 cents credit toward fuel for every $50 spent on groceries, another sells $50 gas cards for $40, one card for every $50 spent. Using both discounts, I had 20 cents off the pump price (price now $2.49), then with the gas card paid an effective price of 80%, or $1.99 per gallon. I can now fill the E300 tank, usually about 21 gallons when the reserve light comes on, for less than $50. Very nice! Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] specific MB suggestions
My 2000 BMW 740iL is a wonderful car. BUT, it has 215,000 miles. My wife loves to ride in it when we go visit her older kids down in Ardmore, OK. It's a 4 hour drive from Wichita, and the car really is one of the most comfortable cars for long drives I have ever driven. BUT, as you can imagine with over 200,000 miles and being a 7 series, I am sort of on borrowed time. I know of no specific reason to believe any major problem is going to crop up. But, it is certainly possible. I have had a few minor things (mostly maintenance) that occurred just recently - battery, new tires, radiator, and rear brakes. I still really enjoy the car, but I am considering getting another. I know, I know, you are thinking ok, Snook will have another car in a week. BUT, that is not going to be the case this time. I have learned my lesson about getting rid of a car and then having to buy something in a hurry. I am only going to sell/trade my car when I find something I really want. SO, here is my query to you automotive experts. I want a large car. About the same size as my 7 series. In terms of Mercedes that (I think) limits me to an S class. I had a 126 S Class before and it was a very nice car. However, it was a 300SEL and it always felt underpowered. I know the 420's have the timing chain issue. So, I suppose that would mean I am limited to a 560SEL for a 126. I don't want to go older than 1990. So, that means, only 1990 and 1991 for 126. I would love to have a 350 SD (126 rodbender) if the rods and assorted issues have been resolved. OR, I look at the 140. Here is where I am relatively inexperienced. Which 140's should I avoid? I do not want a V12. What years are best? If the 126 6 Cyl is underpowered, I assume the 6 Cyl 140 is also. I have almost no knowledge of any chassis newer than a 140 and I am too cheap to buy anything newer. Finally, I might consider the ML. It seems like there is a definite line between the good years and the not so good? Where is that line? Donald H. Snook Snook Law LLC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
Again, where? Forecasting 4 is a placeholder weather forecasters use when they are really saying we know it's going to snow at least 4 inches, so don't be surprised if it snows a helluva lot more than 4 inches. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 15:59:04 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have four snow shovels. The plastic one is best for this type of snow. The forecasters really blew it - 1 or 2 inches is a far cry from the 4 dump that began at 5 AM. Several years ago, we were forecast to get 4 - 6 inches, but got 18. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
Today I found that the CD/DVD drive is no longer recognized by the laptop (does not show up in the device manager, nor in Windows Explorer). It has power, opens and closes fine and the green light comes one, but no-worky. Online research indicates that the problem may be a fault in the nvidia graphics chip. I don't see an option for re-loading the driver, if the device itself is not recognized. I may fool around with system restore later. In the meanwhile, I'll borrow an external optical drive, and start saving nickels and dimes for a new laptop. Six years is a nice long life for a cheapie from Walmart, so I cannot complain at all. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Is that the derivation of the Ottumwal equinox? On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There is a group that has been trying for years to get a new amtrack route from Chicago to omaha, stopping in DM and IC. (Rock Island RR track) It makes so much sense the goobers won't approve it. Gooberment=wasting your tax dollars in the most inefficient way possible Gooberment= buying votes with your tax dollars. Actually, the amtrak is the route of the Burlington (CBQ) railroad California Zephyr. It is a great route, but not great for going to or from Des moines. The DM stop is Osceola, not Ottumwa. There are regular shuttles between DM and Osceola. It is actually no further than going from Denver airport to downtown denver. About the same time as going from Ohare to Chicago... If it is all city, beople don't grumble. If you see a field or a pasture in between, people grumble. Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
I had a student not long ago who had the Acer 710 Chromebook. She was completely enamored of it and had it set to dual boot into either Android or Debian. For the price it can't be beat. Its not been replaced by the 720 which Amazon has for $199. Angie has been complaining that the Dell I gave her is too big and she wants a MacBook like mine. I tell her that my MacBook cost my employer more than my car. She might get an Acer for her birthday, for the small amount of computing she needs it'd work great. -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time? Today I found that the CD/DVD drive is no longer recognized by the laptop (does not show up in the device manager, nor in Windows Explorer). It has power, opens and closes fine and the green light comes one, but no-worky. Online research indicates that the problem may be a fault in the nvidia graphics chip. I don't see an option for re-loading the driver, if the device itself is not recognized. I may fool around with system restore later. In the meanwhile, I'll borrow an external optical drive, and start saving nickels and dimes for a new laptop. Six years is a nice long life for a cheapie from Walmart, so I cannot complain at all. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT laptop screen is dying - new laptop time?
My niece's Toshiba lost its optical drive. IIRC the drive showed up in the drive list until you put a disk in it but no disk would recognize. Paid $9.99 for a used one with free shipping on eBay. Took out one screw, yanked the old drive out, shoved the 'new' one in, replaced the screw, and back in business. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
Compared to 2 years ago I am sure they are aweoms for the money... On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm sticking with windows for now. Low end refurbished machines run about $250 or so, new machines start about $400, but not much machine at that price point. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jan 6, 2015 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: They have to be dirt cheap now. Unless you insist on a Mac product... On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Saving up for a new laptop now. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jan 6, 2015 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What did you buy with the savings, Meade? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather
Its a big old wonderful world we live in huh? See I wouldn't live in Florida for nothing. Well thats not true but it'd take a lot of money and it'd be a limited time engagement. I can always put on a sweater but if its too hot its too hot. For me too hot starts at about 75F... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather No. That's why I'm here. Remember, I moved back to Indiana in 2008 and lived there for two years. Prior to moving to Florida I lived in southeast Wisconsin. I know winter all too well, well enough to know that while no place is perfect, I will gladly dodge the occasional hurricane and live in the heat long before I ever put up with another winter. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You're breaking my heart - not much sun? Washing your car? Wanna trade places? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather
I will say that I miss the fall, but that's about it for seasons. Just as people used to ask me how I could stand the winters in Wisconsin (dress for it!) the same applies to Florida. Yeah, it's hot in the summer, but you just jump in the pool or go inside where it's cool. Somebody ask Renfro what it's like living in Arizona if you want hot. It rarely exceeds 95F down here. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its a big old wonderful world we live in huh? See I wouldn't live in Florida for nothing. Well thats not true but it'd take a lot of money and it'd be a limited time engagement. I can always put on a sweater but if its too hot its too hot. For me too hot starts at about 75F... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather No. That's why I'm here. Remember, I moved back to Indiana in 2008 and lived there for two years. Prior to moving to Florida I lived in southeast Wisconsin. I know winter all too well, well enough to know that while no place is perfect, I will gladly dodge the occasional hurricane and live in the heat long before I ever put up with another winter. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You're breaking my heart - not much sun? Washing your car? Wanna trade places? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Easy, now - easy. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - KC-46A
A provisioned Boeing 767-2C freighter took off from Paine Field in Everett, Wash., on Dec. 28, marking the first flight for the KC-46A Pegasus engineering, manufacturing, and development program. The aircraft is the critical building block (prototype) for the KC-46A aerial refueler. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather
You're breaking my heart - not much sun? Washing your car? Wanna trade places? On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Over the last two weeks we've had minimal sun, unfortunately. Very partly cloudy, if you would. I was doing some touch up spray painting on a couple of parts for the S500 and SL500 over the weekend, and had a tough time getting some sun to help things flash off. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again 'Not trying to make somebody feel bad; severe clear and 57F here in Eastern NC (Goldsboro).;) And Grant and Dan P. are quite tired of having to plow ALL of that sunshine off the drive and walks... Rick Who is near Chicago, where it's fixin' to get REALLY cold. Might get some Lake Effect snow too, for good measure. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
Saving up for a new laptop now. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jan 6, 2015 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What did you buy with the savings, Meade? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions
There was, but only in 1987... Someday when I have some money for a good one I'd like to have another 123 wagon, mine was a disaster... -Curt From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions I would like to have one, but as a third car. NOT my everyday car. I even like the 124 wagon, but no diesel option there. -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:43 PM To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions The answer is obvious: you should move up to a spacious, sporty W123 turbodiesel station wagon with a third seat. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 2000 BMW 740iL is a wonderful car. BUT, it has 215,000 miles. My wife loves to ride in it when we go visit her older kids down in Ardmore, OK. It's a 4 hour drive from Wichita, and the car really is one of the most comfortable cars for long drives I have ever driven. BUT, as you can imagine with over 200,000 miles and being a 7 series, I am sort of on borrowed time. I know of no specific reason to believe any major problem is going to crop up. But, it is certainly possible. I have had a few minor things (mostly maintenance) that occurred just recently - battery, new tires, radiator, and rear brakes. I still really enjoy the car, but I am considering getting another. I know, I know, you are thinking ok, Snook will have another car in a week. BUT, that is not going to be the case this time. I have learned my lesson about getting rid of a car and then having to buy something in a hurry. I am only going to sell/trade my car when I find something I really want. SO, here is my query to you automotive experts. I want a large car. About the same size as my 7 series. In terms of Mercedes that (I think) limits me to an S class. I had a 126 S Class before and it was a very nice car. However, it was a 300SEL and it always felt underpowered. I know the 420's have the timing chain issue. So, I suppose that would mean I am limited to a 560SEL for a 126. I don't want to go older than 1990. So, that means, only 1990 and 1991 for 126. I would love to have a 350 SD (126 rodbender) if the rods and assorted issues have been resolved. OR, I look at the 140. Here is where I am relatively inexperienced. Which 140's should I avoid? I do not want a V12. What years are best? If the 126 6 Cyl is underpowered, I assume the 6 Cyl 140 is also. I have almost no knowledge of any chassis newer than a 140 and I am too cheap to buy anything newer. Finally, I might consider the ML. It seems like there is a definite line between the good years and the not so good? Where is that line? Donald H. Snook Snook Law LLC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
While I'm all for a Mac, for most people they just don't make good fiscal sense to me. If you want a decent laptop and don't need some sort of high end gaming rig, $500 will buy a very capable (Windows) laptop. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: They have to be dirt cheap now. Unless you insist on a Mac product... On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Saving up for a new laptop now. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jan 6, 2015 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What did you buy with the savings, Meade? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions
I will later this evening. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had forgotten Dan a couple of 140's. Is that right? Maybe he can offer some suggestions. -Original Message- From: Meade Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:52 PM To: Mercedes Subject: Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions Commission Dan Penoff to find a nice W140 for you, or maybe find similar Bimmer with fewer miles? It's a trade off, the devil you know for one you don't... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
BTW, Scott, remember Why not Minot? Well, freezin's the reason. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: 'Rick Knoble' rickkno...@hotmail.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again I sold my snow blower when I PCSed from Dayton to the FL panhandle. Dayton isn't Minot but I do recall a two-week stretch when it never got above zero F. Now that I'm back in the NC Piedmont (where it sometimes snows) I just wait for it to melt. I love retirement. Original Message From: WILTON via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again 'Not trying to make somebody feel bad; severe clear and 57F here in Eastern NC (Goldsboro).;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Sounds like Planes Trains and Automobiles --R On 1/6/15 4:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
There is a group that has been trying for years to get a new amtrack route from Chicago to omaha, stopping in DM and IC. (Rock Island RR track) It makes so much sense the goobers won't approve it. Gooberment=wasting your tax dollars in the most inefficient way possible Gooberment= buying votes with your tax dollars. Actually, the amtrak is the route of the Burlington (CBQ) railroad California Zephyr. It is a great route, but not great for going to or from Des moines. The DM stop is Osceola, not Ottumwa. There are regular shuttles between DM and Osceola. It is actually no further than going from Denver airport to downtown denver. About the same time as going from Ohare to Chicago... If it is all city, beople don't grumble. If you see a field or a pasture in between, people grumble. Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions
Commission Dan Penoff to find a nice W140 for you, or maybe find similar Bimmer with fewer miles? It's a trade off, the devil you know for one you don't... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
When I was there I couldn't figure any way to travel from Des Moines to get on the train, Amtrak certainly doesn't help any... -Curt From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again There is a group that has been trying for years to get a new amtrack route from Chicago to omaha, stopping in DM and IC. (Rock Island RR track) It makes so much sense the goobers won't approve it. Gooberment=wasting your tax dollars in the most inefficient way possible Gooberment= buying votes with your tax dollars. Actually, the amtrak is the route of the Burlington (CBQ) railroad California Zephyr. It is a great route, but not great for going to or from Des moines. The DM stop is Osceola, not Ottumwa. There are regular shuttles between DM and Osceola. It is actually no further than going from Denver airport to downtown denver. About the same time as going from Ohare to Chicago... If it is all city, beople don't grumble. If you see a field or a pasture in between, people grumble. Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions
I had forgotten Dan a couple of 140's. Is that right? Maybe he can offer some suggestions. -Original Message- From: Meade Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:52 PM To: Mercedes Subject: Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions Commission Dan Penoff to find a nice W140 for you, or maybe find similar Bimmer with fewer miles? It's a trade off, the devil you know for one you don't... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Likely with weather much like that at Lincoln, NE: cold with nearly constant blizzard-like wind (feels like that on the flight line, anyway) and snow from the North in winter and oven-like winds from the South in Summer. How I know? B-47E maintenance crew chief there Oct '57 to Mar '60. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
I have four snow shovels. The plastic one is best for this type of snow. The forecasters really blew it - 1 or 2 inches is a far cry from the 4 dump that began at 5 AM. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Now that I'm back in the NC Piedmont (where it sometimes snows) I just wait for it to melt. I love retirement. Exactly! I keep the snow shovel on the porch to clear off the steps so we can check the mail, etc., but otherwise just wait for it to melt. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
Same here. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Now that I'm back in the NC Piedmont (where it sometimes snows) I just wait for it to melt. I love retirement. Exactly! I keep the snow shovel on the porch to clear off the steps so we can check the mail, etc., but otherwise just wait for it to melt. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
AFAIK Curly McLain is a pseudonym for... Curly McLain. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again
Anyone remember when that guy Brian thought Curt Raymond was a pseudonym used by Curt Ludwig? Hilarity. I think many of us have figured out Curly's true identity, he's been outing himself a lot lately. IIRC somebody let the cat out of the bag a couple months ago... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again AFAIK Curly McLain is a pseudonym for... Curly McLain. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ottumwa also proves why Amtrak is in trouble. When I didn't buy LT. Don's VW we decided to maybe go see my friend in Chicago which is about 300 miles from Des Moines. The train stops in Ottumwa but theres no good way to get to Ottumwa from Des Moines. The only bus arrived in Ottumwa like an hour after the train leaves so you have to spend the day... Idiots at Amtrak might pick up some people if the train stopped in the BIGGEST CITY IN THE STATE. Figure if theres one spot that stupid there have to be a hundred... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Schnee Was:190D back to legal again Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Where?? Ottumwa, Iowa. You didn't know that Curly is really Walter Radar O'Reilly? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
I'm sticking with windows for now. Low end refurbished machines run about $250 or so, new machines start about $400, but not much machine at that price point. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jan 6, 2015 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: They have to be dirt cheap now. Unless you insist on a Mac product... On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Saving up for a new laptop now. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jan 6, 2015 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What did you buy with the savings, Meade? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather
I was in LA for the hottest day there on record, it was 118F and although its a dry hot it was like standing in front of the oven door all the time all around me. Still better than 95F and 100% humidity. I could handle the southwest. Its not just the weather that makes Florida my version of hell... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather I will say that I miss the fall, but that's about it for seasons. Just as people used to ask me how I could stand the winters in Wisconsin (dress for it!) the same applies to Florida. Yeah, it's hot in the summer, but you just jump in the pool or go inside where it's cool. Somebody ask Renfro what it's like living in Arizona if you want hot. It rarely exceeds 95F down here. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its a big old wonderful world we live in huh? See I wouldn't live in Florida for nothing. Well thats not true but it'd take a lot of money and it'd be a limited time engagement. I can always put on a sweater but if its too hot its too hot. For me too hot starts at about 75F... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather No. That's why I'm here. Remember, I moved back to Indiana in 2008 and lived there for two years. Prior to moving to Florida I lived in southeast Wisconsin. I know winter all too well, well enough to know that while no place is perfect, I will gladly dodge the occasional hurricane and live in the heat long before I ever put up with another winter. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You're breaking my heart - not much sun? Washing your car? Wanna trade places? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Compression good
Remind me where the shell is placed. Do I block open the top part of the tstat? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'd use the cathey trick to open the thermostat and see how it runs. Until that is done, it is not much use talking about it. Dimitri, congrats on the good compression engine. Test it with the .45 shellint the thermostat, and report back. I am still betting on a thermostat. (ducking...Yes, I know it is new and has been replaced.) A lot of thermostats are bad out of the box. The car is a very early 123 with what I presume is a very early style thermostat housing. We should get Dimitri to get a picture of the thermostat housing, its weird looking... Remember it didn't always do this and when its overheating its bubbling the coolant back out the radiator so its not just a temp gauge variation. My '84 190D temp gauge creeps up sometimes but always drops back down, that one is a gauge gone mad. I've replaced the thermostat, the radiator, and the temp sender but still the issue persists. Now I just ignore it although a dose of water-wetter has helped stabilize it some. -Curt From: fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compression good dseretakis--- wrote: I got Curt and Dwight's former 240D to start this am in 14 degree temp. I put it through two 30 sec glow cycles and one 20 sec crank and it fired up. Compression couldn't be that bad! It still does it's weird temp fluctuation thing so I can only drive it around town for now. What style thermostat housing does this use? 'Cause I have had troubles with the newer style not always sensing the temperature correctly. The fix is a 5 mm or so hole drilled in the thermostat to allow some flow even when cold off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions
On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 21:28:50 + Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a 126 S Class before and it was a very nice car. However, it was a 300SEL and it always felt underpowered. I know the 420's have the timing chain issue. I thought it was the 380s with the single-row timing chain that had the issues. Is that not correct? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Compression good
Did you do the compression test hot? What am I asking that for, I'm sure you did... You make good sense though. It actually sounds like the car starts better now than it did when I had it. How cold was it? I figured that to be a 20F car with conventional oil in it. Below that things got iffy which is why I had the block heater put into it. To tap the block with the head installed would take a very long tap. I'd go back to my washer theory. -Curt From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compression good Yes, I replaced tstat with a new MB unit from the classic center. It made no difference. There is a short hose under the tstat housing which leaks. After the car is driven and comes to normal operating temp, this hose will leak coolant. I'm theorizing that once the coolant cools and de pressurizes, air is drawn into this leaking coolant hose creating air bubbles. This might be the problem. If the bolts were bottomed out, wouldn't the engine lose compression as the head is not tight to the block? It started in frigid temps this am. Makes me wonder. As far as the bolts go, did we come to the conclusion that it would be alright to remove one at a time, tap the hole and re-torque? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think Dimitri replaced it again. It'd shock me to have THREE thermostats fail exactly the same way. And remember I tested two of them in a pot of boiling water and they both passed... I'm still betting on bottomed out bolts. -Curt From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compression good I'd use the cathey trick to open the thermostat and see how it runs. Until that is done, it is not much use talking about it. Dimitri, congrats on the good compression engine. Test it with the .45 shellint the thermostat, and report back. I am still betting on a thermostat. (ducking...Yes, I know it is new and has been replaced.) A lot of thermostats are bad out of the box. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
You should have a signature block. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:29:03 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Again, where? You need to keep a list, Andrew. I've answered the question more than once before: Los Alamos, NM. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather
After the extremes of upstate NY with weeks of 0F as the high and 5' of snow h the Nashville heat with 90F-90% for 5 or more months I feel here in coastal RI is ideal. Mild winters with some snow mostly bearable suumers. Although we have decided to install a ductless AC in the 3 main rooms. Dwight On Jan 6, 2015 9:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The humidity where I live isn't bad, as there is almost always a breeze off the Gulf. It's far better than the humidity in the Midwest where I grew up. That's the pour me into a bucket the minute I step out of the door humidity. Nothing like that where I live. That's humidity like southern Louisiana or Houston. The thing that is the greatest about living here is how much sunlight you get. When I moved back to Indy I knew winter would be bad, but I had no idea how bad. The lack of sunlight messed me up bad. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes I am with Curt having lived 8 years in mid-TN in the hot humid Cumberland river valley. Its a big old wonderful world we live in huh? See I wouldn't live in Florida for nothing. Well thats not true but it'd take a lot of money and it'd be a limited time engagement. I can always put on a sweater but if its too hot its too hot. For me too hot starts at about 75F... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather No. That's why I'm here. Remember, I moved back to Indiana in 2008 and lived there for two years. Prior to moving to Florida I lived in southeast Wisconsin. I know winter all too well, well enough to know that while no place is perfect, I will gladly dodge the occasional hurricane and live in the heat long before I ever put up with another winter. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You're breaking my heart - not much sun? Washing your car? Wanna trade places? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions
Pass on the first series ML. Garbage http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/4819302383.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/4832727540.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/4821402725.html The 300SE and S320 are under powered in the w140. The body is a wonderful thing and full of luxury. These are built like a tank in the manner of the w126. The early w140 are troubled with bad electronics and biodegradable wiring. The vacuum close, locking and subsystem need a fresh vac pump to get them operating. The good I found in the car I have is that the ACC has a conduit to Antarctica and Hell both. It pumps out heat to keep the cabin toasty at 1*f. The AC really does blow ice cold. IIRC the vent temp was 1*c both front and rear. We did have to repair something related to the fan while getting it ready for inspection. Interior build quality is real MB, not an approximation of korean cars or mopar. My suggestion is that you look at the '99 models. Either the 420 or 500 would suit your needs. There is ample legroom both front and back. S500 has heated and sliding rear seats. There are privacy option for the rear as well. The trunk is giant, and holds many dead bodies with ease. The engine is OBD compliant, so you can scan it for codes and can reset them without needed buckets of tools. Mileage is less than spectacular, but improved over the earlier examples. If you want a bit more modern car, the w220 is an option. It has integrated gps, more legroom than a car full of six foot basketball players need. It is perfect for long trips, as I did a 22 hour drive from Seattle to Denver in the S430. I was tired, but not sore. The less than spectacular about the model is that it is built on a par with a Korean sedan. Lower quality leather, plastic and felt for trim. Much less metal and chrome, cheap switches, chrysler level electronics. The soft close fails and is expensive to rebuild. The assist functions are not long term reliable and overly expensive to remedy. Mileage is not all it is cracked up to be, but the same as all the other benz.Air suspension fails expensively. Should you think a w220 fits the bill, the 2004 or '05, the last of that line, had the issues ironed out, making them much more reliable. They should have lower miles and updated electronics. Same low caliber fit and finish as a kia clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: My 2000 BMW 740iL is a wonderful car. BUT, it has 215,000 miles. My wife loves to ride in it when we go visit her older kids down in Ardmore, OK. It's a 4 hour drive from Wichita, and the car really is one of the most comfortable cars for long drives I have ever driven. BUT, as you can imagine with over 200,000 miles and being a 7 series, I am sort of on borrowed time. I know of no specific reason to believe any major problem is going to crop up. But, it is certainly possible. I have had a few minor things (mostly maintenance) that occurred just recently - battery, new tires, radiator, and rear brakes. I still really enjoy the car, but I am considering getting another. I know, I know, you are thinking ok, Snook will have another car in a week. BUT, that is not going to be the case this time. I have learned my lesson about getting rid of a car and then having to buy something in a hurry. I am only going to sell/trade my car when I find something I really want. SO, here is my query to you automotive experts. I want a large car. About the same size as my 7 series. In terms of Mercedes that (I think) limits me to an S class. I had a 126 S Class before and it was a very nice car. However, it was a 300SEL and it always felt underpowered. I know the 420's have the timing chain issue. So, I suppose that would mean I am limited to a 560SEL for a 126. I don't want to go older than 1990. So, that means, only 1990 and 1991 for 126. I would love to have a 350 SD (126 rodbender) if the rods and assorted issues have been resolved. OR, I look at the 140. Here is where I am relatively inexperienced. Which 140's should I avoid? I do not want a V12. What years are best? If the 126 6 Cyl is underpowered, I assume the 6 Cyl 140 is also. I have almost no knowledge of any chassis newer than a 140 and I am too cheap to buy anything newer. Finally, I might consider the ML. It seems like there is a definite line between the good years and the not so good? Where is that line? Donald H. Snook Snook Law LLC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
G: There has been constant research in rain and weather control for years. Hopefully, some day, we'll learn to control weather the same way we have learned to control many other aspects of nature. Here in Florida, we are having a terribly warm winter. Flowers are blooming, trees and plants are pollinating as though its spring, and air conditioners are on in South Florida. Here is the weather report for coming days on the west coast of North Central Florida: . Tonight Mostly clear, with a low around 50. North wind around 7 mph. Wednesday Sunny, with a high near 65. North wind 7 to 10 mph. Wednesday Night Partly cloudy, a low around 37. North wind 9 to 18 mph. Thursday Sunny, with a high near 59. Wind chill values as low as 28 early. North northeast wind around 16 mph. Thursday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 47. North northeast wind 6 to 14 mph. Friday Mostly cloudy, with a high near 63. Light north wind increasing to 5 to 9 mph in the afternoon. Friday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 48. North wind around 9 mph. Saturday Partly sunny, with a high near 68. North northeast wind around 10 mph. Saturday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 59. Northeast wind around 9 mph. Sunday A 20 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 76. Sunday Night A 20 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 64. Monday A 40 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 76. Monday Night A 40 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 63. Tuesday A 20 percent chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 72. .. While some may consider this ideal weather, it's bad for people with allergies since such a weather pattern produces pollen and mold spores year 'roundGerry -- 'Not trying to make somebody feel bad; severe clear and 57F here in Eastern NC (Goldsboro). ;) I'm sure we'll get our fair share in time. Wilton From: Curt We're supposed to get up to half an inch but at 11F its fine powder. Supposed to hit a high of 15F today but I don't believe it. Might make 19F tomorrow but -10F is predicted for tomorrow night. Brrr -Curt From: Andrew I just shoveled 4 of heavy, wet snow off the driveway and cleared off the 1983 white 300TD. Around 27 degrees but my hands got so cold they hurt. I'm reporting from D.C., where traffic ground to a halt this morning as the storm hit just at rush hour. Schools closed, chaos reigned. No trash pickup. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benzin
I have been tracking the lower end laptops for #2 boy. The 15 models can be had for $250 at Fry's. That gets you a dual core, 4 gig ram, and 500 gig drive. They run Win 8 out of the box. Those are good enough to run for a few years and swap out for another. Cutting edge laptops would be the i5 or i7, but those are expensive and fail anyway in four years. #1 boy has a four year old i7 that is showing its age. Upgraded the HDD, battery is worn down, it needs an external optical drive, but the screen still runs. Windows has shat on the thing three times since he has owned it. It required a full rebuild and for some reason keeps crapping itself. clay On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I'm sticking with windows for now. Low end refurbished machines run about $250 or so, new machines start about $400, but not much machine at that price point. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jan 6, 2015 4:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: They have to be dirt cheap now. Unless you insist on a Mac product... On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Saving up for a new laptop now. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jan 6, 2015 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What did you buy with the savings, Meade? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Compression good
Yes, I replaced tstat with a new MB unit from the classic center. It made no difference. There is a short hose under the tstat housing which leaks. After the car is driven and comes to normal operating temp, this hose will leak coolant. I'm theorizing that once the coolant cools and de pressurizes, air is drawn into this leaking coolant hose creating air bubbles. This might be the problem. If the bolts were bottomed out, wouldn't the engine lose compression as the head is not tight to the block? It started in frigid temps this am. Makes me wonder. As far as the bolts go, did we come to the conclusion that it would be alright to remove one at a time, tap the hole and re-torque? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think Dimitri replaced it again. It'd shock me to have THREE thermostats fail exactly the same way. And remember I tested two of them in a pot of boiling water and they both passed... I'm still betting on bottomed out bolts. -Curt From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compression good I'd use the cathey trick to open the thermostat and see how it runs. Until that is done, it is not much use talking about it. Dimitri, congrats on the good compression engine. Test it with the .45 shellint the thermostat, and report back. I am still betting on a thermostat. (ducking...Yes, I know it is new and has been replaced.) A lot of thermostats are bad out of the box. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] In honor of winter
On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 00:35:43 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW3byjiWB1M It hurts just looking at it ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
Please do. I have the resources of a 20+ year Mercedes dealer parts guy whom I have yet to stump. And he has no problem telling me to buy stuff elsewhere if it's equal and cheaper. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 6:37 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks. Next time the issue arises, you will be consulted clay On Jan 6, 2015, at 2:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: You need to find another dealer. W140 parts, no matter how strange, are readily available through MBNA. The only things that are drying up are soft froo-froo parts like floor mats for the coupe. Next time you run into this or even think you can't find something for a W140, let me know and I'll get a definitive answer from my dealer parts guy. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 1:18 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: We tried that with the local dealer, and they could not source them. Calipers are ok, Dr. fatty got the rotors too. It took a while for him to track them down because EPC had the numbers, but they were not in inventory according to Gary. I think we paid $200 for both rotors clay On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Clay, I’m not sure where you got your information, but I just looked at the EPC and the discs are readily available for that car as are the calipers. They’re a 1404210312, $129/each for the discs. This is for the 300SE 3.2, chassis 140033/140042, correct? Gimme a VIN. I’ll bet the parts are available and in stock at MB. Dan On Jan 5, 2015, at 5:26 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: It is the rare and quite retarded 1992 300SE The car has a few quirks that were addressed in the 1993 edition and then fully standardized after 1994. Brake rotors are special to this model, as are the calipers. The 93 has upgraded braking parts (300 series) but not the same as the standardized 94+ Early engine management and not OBD compliant Biodegradable wire harness that is not the same as used on the 93 (expensive to learn that one) Single year transmission that is not compliant with others in the line up A few other fiddly bits that were transition items from the w126 to the w140. I suspect this was also an early example, so problems were resolved down the line. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] In honor of winter
Reminds me of the driveway I couldn't get up when it snowed. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 6, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 00:35:43 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW3byjiWB1M It hurts just looking at it ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] specific MB suggestions
You are correct, Craig. I don't know of any reason not to get a 420, other than it has less power than the 500 or 560, and uses almost as much fuel. The first years of the ML - up to 2001 - had a braking only traction control system, the 2002 and after had a more sophisticated system. I had a 2001, that the previous owner had sorted all the early issues out of, and had no issues with it (other than a CEL light that was the result of loose vacuum line). We've had a recent discussion on the difficulty of finding new parts for some of the older MBs (123), and there have been suggestions that we might not want older cars anymore, to buy ten years old or newer. All cars are disposable now. Just for grins, go drive a 2012 or newer Passat . . . . On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought it was the 380s with the single-row timing chain that had the issues. Is that not correct? Craig -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather
Original Message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 8:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again/weather The thing that is the greatest about living here is how much sunlight you get. When I moved back to Indy I knew winter would be bad, but I had no idea how bad. The lack of sunlight messed me up bad. SAM-e and St. John's Wort. Works wonders. Really. That said, I'd rather be in Florida :) Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 190D back to legal again
Since I haven't been driving my 190D it's legally inspected status had slipped so yesterday I set out to wrest it from its sleep and get it inspected. It was a mere 25F when I went out but the car started nicely enough. Unfortunately there was some ice on the inside of the windshield so I let it run while I scraped the outside, then left it running and went inside to warm up.After the ice had some time to melt I started checking all the inspectables, lights, horn etc. everything was good until I tried the washer and found a no-go. Started digging in and found the whole system was frozen up solid. I dug out the bottle and brought it in the house. It took a lot of hot water to melt the green Rain-X out. Apparently its not rated for below freezing...With the bottle clean and charged with good orange Rain-X I could finally hear the pump running but now water was spraying out from a white thing in the line, is that a check valve? Turns out its plastic housing wouldn't stay clamped, a coup le zip ties fixed that. Finally the last few inches of hose had to spend a few minutes inside my coat to melt an ice plug. Only took an hour an a half but we finally passed inspection. Then made a run up to Keene to get coolant for the Jetta's radiator replacement. I'm going to let a local guy do the replacement, its gotten all the way up to 12F today and since my car has AC the whole front bumper has to come off for the job, not a big deal but not something I want to do outside in the cold... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
Attaboy Curt. Yankee ingenuity On Jan 6, 2015 10:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Since I haven't been driving my 190D it's legally inspected status had slipped so yesterday I set out to wrest it from its sleep and get it inspected. It was a mere 25F when I went out but the car started nicely enough. Unfortunately there was some ice on the inside of the windshield so I let it run while I scraped the outside, then left it running and went inside to warm up.After the ice had some time to melt I started checking all the inspectables, lights, horn etc. everything was good until I tried the washer and found a no-go. Started digging in and found the whole system was frozen up solid. I dug out the bottle and brought it in the house. It took a lot of hot water to melt the green Rain-X out. Apparently its not rated for below freezing...With the bottle clean and charged with good orange Rain-X I could finally hear the pump running but now water was spraying out from a white thing in the line, is that a check valve? Turns out its plastic housing wouldn't stay clamped, a couple zip ties fixed that. Finally the last few inches of hose had to spend a few minutes inside my coat to melt an ice plug. Only took an hour an a half but we finally passed inspection. Then made a run up to Keene to get coolant for the Jetta's radiator replacement. I'm going to let a local guy do the replacement, its gotten all the way up to 12F today and since my car has AC the whole front bumper has to come off for the job, not a big deal but not something I want to do outside in the cold... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 vs W140
hi Andrew! no worries; thanks! cheers! e On 05/Jan/15 06:23, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My apologies for Ernie-ing you. I should have known better, since I find it irksome when the occasional lister Andies me. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 11:52 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: agreed! one reason i wish i could still rely on the W123. but that's going to be a non-issue if we can't get the dang thing to drive. cheers! e On 04/Jan/15 20:35, dsereta...@yahoo.com mailto:dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, I guess I can't resist either. Here I go: God help you should you get into an accident with your Cheep or your early nineties camry tin can. I'd much rather be in a w123 Mercedes. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 4, 2015, at 11:26 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: there it is! i knew as soon i mentioned the J**p or Toyota i could count on you not being able to restrain your hard-on for those; i'm surprised it didn't show up before now! for what it's worth, we've only run into one part so far that was NLA for either of those vehicles from the dealer; a rear hatch latch button for the J**p. and as you pointed out, aftermarket support for them has been great; much as i'd hope otherwise, we've found it much better than for the W123. it's not news that any vehicle can/will break. the thing that makes the difference for us is whether you can still get parts for it or not while you're on the road. regards, e On 04/Jan/15 20:09, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Cathey, Fred, whatever,.. that's all great, but perhaps you missed the part where i said i want a car, not a hobby..? i want a car for the utility it provides, and have no interest in locking myself into any car just for the sake of the challenge of keeping it running. with Mercedes no longer being the Mercedes of old, i'll certainly not be buying a new Mercedes any time soon; MBUSA has made that a certainty. cheers! e Cheeps break too, as do every asian car, and every NA car, and every european car and every indian and african built car. If you want reliable trans, ride a bus or fly a airline seat. Or walk. How many parts for 30 year old cheeps does cheep dealer have? How many parts for a 30 year old toada does the toada dealer have? Not many, I'd guess. But that does not mean that you can't get parts. I don't consider my cars a hobby. But they are fairly cheap and easy to keep running. The MB mechanically injected Diesel is inherently reliable. You can buy what you want. As for me and mine, we will buy old MBs as long as we can find them and keep them running. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are
[MBZ] More work on cars
Replaced some fuel lines (between in-line filter and preheater thermostat and between thermostat and lift pump) and three of six glow plugs -- ran out of time and patience with the glow plugs. Not bad for starting at 8 pm and getting done by 11. A secret if you ever need to change the glow plugs on a 300D with a 603: Push the cruise control linkage forward when changing #3. Takes the job from un-doable to easy as pie. Still requires six hands and two lights and a lot of cursing, but much easier. My nephew who is training to be a diesel mechanic helped, and actually participated this time. Badly spoiled by his mother, hard to keep him motivated, but he stuck to it this time. Still rather fumble fingered and doesn't think things out, but progress is being made. Found all the intake manifold bolts just barely finger tight, so torqued them all down. Car starts better and runs MUCH better, still got a knock in #6 at idle, probably a bad pressure valve holder seal. Idle is vastly improved, no more shaking and pounding, so I think much of the running issues I've had recently were due to air inflitration from those bad lines. Cracks, rock hard, split on the ends, problem was much worse cold. I guess I'll find out Thursday morning if it will start sub-zero. If not, I'll stay home till noon, the TE needs gas line repairs that will require having a new rubber bit crimped onto a steel line, part is NLA -- it's the line that the hose from the rear fuel pump attaches to that jumpers to the rear of the front pump and, I think, has the bleed line from the pressure regulator/accumulator attached. One inch long piece of rubber hose is going bad. Later models all have banjo fittings on the pumps, someone must have had a better idea, eh? At any rate, I'll pull it off soon and take it to the hydraulic place my brother found who made the hose from the rear to front pump for us after two replacements failed in a couple weeks. 200 PSI rated fuel line, should last a while, I think. Next weekend I'll put the other rear wheel bearing in the TE and hopefully shocks in the rear of the diesel -- be nice to have TO operating cars since I need to make a trip to Chicago on the 20th. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again
Original Message From: Craig via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D back to legal again On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 21:11:10 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You should have a signature block. Why? No one else does, including you. Hey now, I have a signature, at least on emails sent from this phone. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 That probably has more computing power than the Gemini, Apollo, and original space shuttle combined. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Compression good
Normally it’s placed into the receiver….. On Jan 6, 2015, at 8:29 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Remind me where the shell is placed. Do I block open the top part of the tstat? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'd use the cathey trick to open the thermostat and see how it runs. Until that is done, it is not much use talking about it. Dimitri, congrats on the good compression engine. Test it with the .45 shellint the thermostat, and report back. I am still betting on a thermostat. (ducking...Yes, I know it is new and has been replaced.) A lot of thermostats are bad out of the box. The car is a very early 123 with what I presume is a very early style thermostat housing. We should get Dimitri to get a picture of the thermostat housing, its weird looking... Remember it didn't always do this and when its overheating its bubbling the coolant back out the radiator so its not just a temp gauge variation. My '84 190D temp gauge creeps up sometimes but always drops back down, that one is a gauge gone mad. I've replaced the thermostat, the radiator, and the temp sender but still the issue persists. Now I just ignore it although a dose of water-wetter has helped stabilize it some. -Curt From: fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compression good dseretakis--- wrote: I got Curt and Dwight's former 240D to start this am in 14 degree temp. I put it through two 30 sec glow cycles and one 20 sec crank and it fired up. Compression couldn't be that bad! It still does it's weird temp fluctuation thing so I can only drive it around town for now. What style thermostat housing does this use? 'Cause I have had troubles with the newer style not always sensing the temperature correctly. The fix is a 5 mm or so hole drilled in the thermostat to allow some flow even when cold off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
