Re: [MBZ] Lucas Transmission Fix

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Mitch, 
 We may have different problems, yet looking for positive results.  The 
used tranny my Indie installed "supposedly" only had 95K on it and my Indie 
said it looked really good and clean, but...  It was from a parts yard in AZ so 
my Indie said some internals might have dried out causing my problems.  And my 
Indie won't overhaul a tranny only replace them.  My tranny shifts ok when 
first cold and it shifts ok if you let it take off at soft pedal.  But once 
warm or if you give it a hard pedal it wants to slip/flare between 2-3 and 3-4 
gears.  Once in 4th, in runs great.  If you use the kickdown, it will 
slip/flare dropping back into 3rd.  You can give it hard pedal and let up 
slightly at about 30-35 mph and it will jump from 2nd into 4th and continue 
fine.  My Indie has checked everything, linkage, vacuum, modulator, etc. with 
no success.  
  So, if the Lucas helps that would be great.  If not, I'll just adjust to 
how it shifts.  I've got three other vehicles, so it's not a daily driver. 
Again, good luck to both of us. 
Roger 

- Original Message -

rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote: 
> My Indie thought I was crazy (maybe I am), but he didn't see how a product 
> could fix both hard shifting and slipping as they are at somewhat opposite 
> ends of the problem scale. 

I've actually got three things going on: 

1. Won't downshift into first when in overdrive, and as it gets worse, won't 
always shift into first from reverse. Still works fine in drive, and in 
overdrive as long as you shift back into drive while you're still going over 
30mph. This is a sticking piston, I've heard it's plastic and gets bent after 
150k or so. Mine started doing it at about 180k. 

2. Hard shift into 2nd. I this is a worn clutch pack but I'm not sure. 
Don't expect magic chemicals to fix it. 

3. Doesn't always lock the converter at freeway speeds. This one throws a code, 
so the computer is trying to lock it but it just doesn't happen. 

4. I just remembered one more. In real cold weather, there were a couple of 
times it didn't want to go forward or backward for the first 30-60 seconds. 
Makes me wonder how much of 1-3 is from a weak pump. 

I have a good used valve body, complete with pump and all solenoids including 
the TQ solenoid. I figure that when I have the time to put that in, everything 
but the slow hard shift into 2nd should go away. 

Now Curt has me thinking. The Lucas has a definite odor, but is it ATF-like or 
weakly like gear oil? It doesn't smell as strong as gear oil. I guess it's been 
a few years since I sniffed a fresh bottle of 85W-90 or dino ATF. It's way 
thicker than pancake syrup, whatever is in it. 

Mitch. 


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Re: [MBZ] Lucas Transmission Fix

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:

My Indie thought I was crazy (maybe I am), but he didn't see how a product 
could fix both hard shifting and slipping as they are at somewhat opposite ends 
of the problem scale.


I've actually got three things going on:

1. Won't downshift into first when in overdrive, and as it gets worse, won't 
always shift into first from reverse. Still works fine in drive, and in 
overdrive as long as you shift back into drive while you're still going over 
30mph. This is a sticking piston, I've heard it's plastic and gets bent after 
150k or so. Mine started doing it at about 180k.


2. Hard shift into 2nd. I this is a worn clutch pack but I'm not sure.
Don't expect magic chemicals to fix it.

3. Doesn't always lock the converter at freeway speeds. This one throws a code, 
so the computer is trying to lock it but it just doesn't happen.


4. I just remembered one more. In real cold weather, there were a couple of 
times it didn't want to go forward or backward for the first 30-60 seconds.

Makes me wonder how much of 1-3 is from a weak pump.

I have a good used valve body, complete with pump and all solenoids including 
the TQ solenoid. I figure that when I have the time to put that in, everything 
but the slow hard shift into 2nd should go away.


Now Curt has me thinking. The Lucas has a definite odor, but is it ATF-like or 
weakly like gear oil? It doesn't smell as strong as gear oil. I guess it's been 
a few years since I sniffed a fresh bottle of 85W-90 or dino ATF. It's way 
thicker than pancake syrup, whatever is in it.


Mitch.


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[MBZ] Lucas Transmission Fix

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Mitch, 
   My 1980 300SD with the used tranny installed a year ago slips between 
2/3 and 3/4 under medium load.  I just had it serviced and had a bottle of 
Lucas added.  Lucas claims to fix slipping, hard shifts, etc. etc.  There was 
no immediate improvement as some claim on Youtube.  I'll report back as well 
once I've driven it awhile.  If it doesn't show improvement, I'll take it back 
to my Indie for a drain and refill with regular ATF.  My Indie thought I was 
crazy (maybe I am), but he didn't see how a product could fix both hard 
shifting and slipping as they are at somewhat opposite ends of the problem 
scale.  But I'm still open about it so I'll wait and see.  
Good luck to you too. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com  (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com  (antique) 

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Re: [MBZ] SEL 'stank'

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Besides the other ills this POS has been exhibiting,
lately it smells 'gassy'.  I looked into it, and found
the $%%#$ EHA valve leaking.  Through the body, it's
not the O-rings.  $270 (!) later I have a new one, and
I installed it this morning.  I also noted that the air
metering plate scraped a bit when I pushed it down, so
that's not good.  I tried re-centering it, again, and
I guess today we'll see if things are any better.

-- Jim


What is an EHA valve, and what is it supposed to do?

(glad I don't own any gassers with that.)

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Re: [MBZ] OT apropos of nothing, but interesting and I thought good

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dan wrote:
> ...if you have the time to listen to it:

... when available after tomorrow, online.
Or, find local play of TAL on your local NPR stations.  TAL is fun
program.  Ira Glass is kinda serious, usually funny.  Good stuff.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Play Taps for a W124

[Hertzing via Mercedes]

Craig a guy sideswiped me in my 1995 e320 wagon last week and totaled it so 
I'll be curious to see what you will get.  I'll keep you posted as I negotiate.

Peter

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Craig McCluskey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm glad Shirley wasn't in the passenger side!
> 
> I was able to snag the belly pan I had taken off earlier when Shirley
> bumped up against a parking place tire stop, the trunk carpet, the lug
> wrench, the bulbs from the right tail light assembly (I forgot about the
> left side), and all of our personal effects.
> 
> I had thought of getting the rims (they are 16" W201 rims), but looking at
> the left front, I decided to pass.
> 
> Now I get to hassle with the insurance adjuster.
> 
> Does anyone have any examples of '95 E320s to establish a price?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Cars For Dan

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Link to some pictures of the 1999 S320 I looked at this morning:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/imtv5q81tbe5foo/AAAHb208j8tdgJnbc8rVnFhXa?dl=0

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Play Taps for a W124

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

‎>>What was the reason for the >>crash?


She was in the wrong lane and >turned too hard to get in the >correct one.


A 4matic with stability control might be wise for the replacement. 
‎Glad she is okay. 


I've been wondering about ESP lately.
If you put it to work, the brakes wear out, and does it just let you go faster 
before you lose control?


If you can manage to not up the speed when driving with ESP, it should be a big 
help when things start to go wrong.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] Lucas Transmission Fix

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Is Lucas Transmission Fix the stuff Curt recommends?

It feels strange squeezing (you can't pour it) something into an auto trans that 
looks like STP with red dye and smells like 140w gear oil.

Aren't there things inside transmissions that don't react well to sulphur?

Anyway, put about 10oz of the stuff in a Taurus with a sticky valve piston, will 
report back to the list next weekend with results.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Zackly!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car


That's the main reason why I won't look at cars that are being sold by 
dealers.  I have no confidence in their ability to be honest.


Dan


On Mar 14, 2015, at 6:55 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:


Yep, I've heard that BS, too, and I'm damned tired of it!
'Wouldn't trust one of the a**holes as far as I can throw a bull by the 
tail.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car


I saw that stuff on some new cars at the MB dealer a coupla weeks ago. 
Probably a $500 upcharge


--R

CUSTOMER
We sat here right in this room and
went over this and over this!

JERRY
Yah, but that TruCoat -

CUSTOMER
I sat right here and said I didn't
want no TruCoat!

JERRY
Yah, but I'm sayin', that TruCoat,
you don't get it and you get
oxidization problems.  It'll cost
you a heck of lot more'n five
hunnert -

CUSTOMER
You're sittin' here, you're talkin'
in circles!  You're talkin' like
we didn't go over this already!

JERRY
Yah, but this TruCoat -

CUSTOMER
We had us a deal here for nine-
teen-five.  You sat there and
darned if you didn't tell me
you'd get this car, these options,
WITHOUT THE SEALANT, for nine-
teen-five!

JERRY
Okay, I'm not sayin' I didn't -

CUSTOMER
You called me twenty minutes ago
and said you had it!  Ready to
make delivery, ya says!  Come on
down and get it!  And here ya are
and you're wastin' my time and
you're wastin' my wife's time and
I'm payin' nineteen-five for this
vehicle here!

JERRY
Well, okay, I'll talk to my boss...

He rises, and, as he leaves:

JERRY
...  See, they install that TruCoat
at the factory, there's nothin' we
can do, but I'll talk to my boss.

The couple watch him go to a nearby cubicle.

CUSTOMER
These guys here - these guys!
It's always the same!  It's always
more!  He's a liar!

WIFE
Please, dear.

CUSTOMER
We went over this and over this -

NEARBY CUBICLE

Jerry sits perched on the desk of another salesman who is
eating lunch as he watches a hockey game on a small portable
TV.

JERRY
So you're goin' to the Gophers
on Sunday?

SALESMAN
You bet.

JERRY
You wouldn't have an extra ticket
there?

SALESMAN
They're playin' the Buckeyes!

JERRY
Yah.

SALESMAN
Ya kiddin'!

JERRY'S CUBICLE

Jerry re-enters.

JERRY
Well, he never done this before,
but seein' as it's special
circumstances and all, he says I
can knock one hunnert off that
TruCoat.

CUSTOMER
One hundred!  You lied to me, Mr.
Lundegaard.  You're a bald-faced
liar!

Jerry sits staring at his lap.

CUSTOMER
...  A fucking liar -

WIFE
Bucky, please!

Jerry mumbles into his lap:

JERRY
One hunnert's the best we can
do here.

CUSTOMER
Oh, for Christ's sake, where's my
goddamn checkbook.  Let's get this
over with.


On 3/14/15 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
It's got some sort of 3M clear film on the nose and hood that was 
installed by the VA dealer to prevent rock chips.  Hmm.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - THE CORN CROP

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Maybe coupla years ago, a guy took a corn SHELLER into the "Pawn Stars" in 
Vegas.  Rick got all excited about it being a corn SHUCKER, and they 
proceeded to run coupla ears of GREEN corn through it making a squishy mess. 
I tried to tell 'em, "It's a SHELLER for dry, shucked corn!"  They wouldn't 
listen, and didn't know what the Hell they were doing.  I was surprised that 
"The Old Man" didn't set 'em straight.


'Never rode a planter, myself.  'Saw my brothers use 'em.  Most of our 
transplanting was via the handheld, walking "setters" described in "Raising 
Tobacco."


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - THE CORN CROP


There was one of those corn shellers in the barn when I sold the farm in 
KY, had an auction beforehand, not sure how much it brought.  I thought 
about keeping it but had nowhere to put it and not sure what I would have 
done with it had I kept it.  I think some Amish guy bought it, they go for 
that stuff.


There was also a hand version of the sower for the garden, it had a bunch 
of little gear-type things you put a different one in depending on what 
kind of seed you were planting.


Did you ever ride on the tobacco planter and use it?  I remember my 
granddaddy had one, one morning he would go out and pick all the little 
plants from the plant bed, then hitch the mule to the planter and off to 
the field.  He would have to get another man to either drive the mule or 
work the planting.  It had a sort of conveyor with little pointed trays on 
it, kinda like a little garden trowel, which was geared to the wheels on 
the planter, as you went along the guy working the plants would put a 
plant in the tray which would then go down and get stuck in the ground by 
the pointy tray thing.  I guess it was all organized to get the plants at 
just the proper spacing. Had to work that thing fast.


--R



On 3/13/15 10:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Yep, another one:

THE CORN CROP
By Wilton Strickland

Preparing the soil for corn was done much the same way as for cotton. 
The same planter was used with a different seed disk installed to space 
plants farther apart.  The crop also required periodic plowing and 
chopping with hand-held hoes to keep fields cleared of weeds and grass.
At least once during the growing season we gave the corn plants 
additional fertilizer by dropping a small hand full of sodium nitrate 
("soda") near each plant.  As a boy of 9, 10, 11, I used a smaller bucket 
than my older, bigger brothers to carry the "soda" along in my left hand 
as I applied it near the plants with my right hand.  My bucket was 
usually a gallon paint can with a rag wrapped around the handle to ease 
the pain of the handle cutting into my hand.
We usually harvested the dried corn in October or November by hand 
one ear at a time.  Two mules pulled a wagon through the field straddling 
a row of corn.  Two to four men or boys would walk along between the rows 
of corn near the wagon and pull each ear of corn from its stalk and throw 
it into the wagon.  We were seldom lucky enough to have gloves to protect 
our hands from the cutting leaves and shucks.  When the wagon was full, 
we would take the corn to the crib - a storage building usually adjoining 
the stables and hog pen where the corn was often used to feed the 
animals.  Like most activities on our farm, the unloading was also done 
by hand.
The corn crib usually included a mechanical, hand-cranked corn 
sheller mounted on the side of a wooden box on legs that raised it to a 
comfortable standing height.  The shelling mechanism was a disc rotated 
by the hand crank.  On the inner face of the disc were lots of little 
spikes or nipple-like protrusions that would grip and loosen the kernels 
of corn as the ear was deposited into a chute at the top.  One side of 
the chute was mounted on adjustable springs that allowed the chute 
diameter to expand and contract to fit the size of the ear of corn and 
keep pressure on the kernels.  The rotating disc would give the ear of 
corn a spinning motion and pull it farther down into the chute causing 
the kernels to separate from the cob and fall into a box beneath the 
sheller.  The diameter of the chute decreased toward the bottom to ensure 
that all of the kernels were removed. The cobs would continue on through 
the chute and be discharged out one side of the unit as rotation of the 
disc continued.  Another ear of corn could be inserted at the top of the 
chute before the ear ahead of it had finished to provide more efficient 
use of the cranking motion.


Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That's the main reason why I won't look at cars that are being sold by dealers. 
 I have no confidence in their ability to be honest.

Dan


> On Mar 14, 2015, at 6:55 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yep, I've heard that BS, too, and I'm damned tired of it!
> 'Wouldn't trust one of the a**holes as far as I can throw a bull by the tail.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car
> 
> 
>> I saw that stuff on some new cars at the MB dealer a coupla weeks ago. 
>> Probably a $500 upcharge
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> CUSTOMER
>> We sat here right in this room and
>> went over this and over this!
>> 
>> JERRY
>> Yah, but that TruCoat -
>> 
>> CUSTOMER
>> I sat right here and said I didn't
>> want no TruCoat!
>> 
>> JERRY
>> Yah, but I'm sayin', that TruCoat,
>> you don't get it and you get
>> oxidization problems.  It'll cost
>> you a heck of lot more'n five
>> hunnert -
>> 
>> CUSTOMER
>> You're sittin' here, you're talkin'
>> in circles!  You're talkin' like
>> we didn't go over this already!
>> 
>> JERRY
>> Yah, but this TruCoat -
>> 
>> CUSTOMER
>> We had us a deal here for nine-
>> teen-five.  You sat there and
>> darned if you didn't tell me
>> you'd get this car, these options,
>> WITHOUT THE SEALANT, for nine-
>> teen-five!
>> 
>> JERRY
>> Okay, I'm not sayin' I didn't -
>> 
>> CUSTOMER
>> You called me twenty minutes ago
>> and said you had it!  Ready to
>> make delivery, ya says!  Come on
>> down and get it!  And here ya are
>> and you're wastin' my time and
>> you're wastin' my wife's time and
>> I'm payin' nineteen-five for this
>> vehicle here!
>> 
>> JERRY
>> Well, okay, I'll talk to my boss...
>> 
>> He rises, and, as he leaves:
>> 
>> JERRY
>> ...  See, they install that TruCoat
>> at the factory, there's nothin' we
>> can do, but I'll talk to my boss.
>> 
>> The couple watch him go to a nearby cubicle.
>> 
>> CUSTOMER
>> These guys here - these guys!
>> It's always the same!  It's always
>> more!  He's a liar!
>> 
>> WIFE
>> Please, dear.
>> 
>> CUSTOMER
>> We went over this and over this -
>> 
>> NEARBY CUBICLE
>> 
>> Jerry sits perched on the desk of another salesman who is
>> eating lunch as he watches a hockey game on a small portable
>> TV.
>> 
>> JERRY
>> So you're goin' to the Gophers
>> on Sunday?
>> 
>> SALESMAN
>> You bet.
>> 
>> JERRY
>> You wouldn't have an extra ticket
>> there?
>> 
>> SALESMAN
>> They're playin' the Buckeyes!
>> 
>> JERRY
>> Yah.
>> 
>> SALESMAN
>> Ya kiddin'!
>> 
>> JERRY'S CUBICLE
>> 
>> Jerry re-enters.
>> 
>> JERRY
>> Well, he never done this before,
>> but seein' as it's special
>> circumstances and all, he says I
>> can knock one hunnert off that
>> TruCoat.
>> 
>> CUSTOMER
>> One hundred!  You lied to me, Mr.
>> Lundegaard.  You're a bald-faced
>> liar!
>> 
>> Jerry sits staring at his lap.
>> 
>> CUSTOMER
>> ...  A fucking liar -
>> 
>> WIFE
>> Bucky, please!
>> 
>> Jerry mumbles into his lap:
>> 
>> JERRY
>> One hunnert's the best we can
>> do here.
>> 
>> CUSTOMER
>> Oh, for Christ's sake, where's my
>> goddamn checkbook.  Let's get this
>> over with.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/14/15 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> It's got some sort of 3M clear film on the nose and hood that was installed 
>>> by the VA dealer to prevent rock chips.  Hmm.
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Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, I've heard that BS, too, and I'm damned tired of it!
'Wouldn't trust one of the a**holes as far as I can throw a bull by the 
tail.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car


I saw that stuff on some new cars at the MB dealer a coupla weeks ago. 
Probably a $500 upcharge


--R

CUSTOMER
We sat here right in this room and
went over this and over this!

JERRY
Yah, but that TruCoat -

CUSTOMER
I sat right here and said I didn't
want no TruCoat!

JERRY
Yah, but I'm sayin', that TruCoat,
you don't get it and you get
oxidization problems.  It'll cost
you a heck of lot more'n five
hunnert -

CUSTOMER
You're sittin' here, you're talkin'
in circles!  You're talkin' like
we didn't go over this already!

JERRY
Yah, but this TruCoat -

CUSTOMER
We had us a deal here for nine-
teen-five.  You sat there and
darned if you didn't tell me
you'd get this car, these options,
WITHOUT THE SEALANT, for nine-
teen-five!

JERRY
Okay, I'm not sayin' I didn't -

CUSTOMER
You called me twenty minutes ago
and said you had it!  Ready to
make delivery, ya says!  Come on
down and get it!  And here ya are
and you're wastin' my time and
you're wastin' my wife's time and
I'm payin' nineteen-five for this
vehicle here!

JERRY
Well, okay, I'll talk to my boss...

He rises, and, as he leaves:

JERRY
...  See, they install that TruCoat
at the factory, there's nothin' we
can do, but I'll talk to my boss.

The couple watch him go to a nearby cubicle.

CUSTOMER
These guys here - these guys!
It's always the same!  It's always
more!  He's a liar!

WIFE
Please, dear.

CUSTOMER
We went over this and over this -

NEARBY CUBICLE

Jerry sits perched on the desk of another salesman who is
eating lunch as he watches a hockey game on a small portable
TV.

JERRY
So you're goin' to the Gophers
on Sunday?

SALESMAN
You bet.

JERRY
You wouldn't have an extra ticket
there?

SALESMAN
They're playin' the Buckeyes!

JERRY
Yah.

SALESMAN
Ya kiddin'!

JERRY'S CUBICLE

Jerry re-enters.

JERRY
Well, he never done this before,
but seein' as it's special
circumstances and all, he says I
can knock one hunnert off that
TruCoat.

CUSTOMER
One hundred!  You lied to me, Mr.
Lundegaard.  You're a bald-faced
liar!

Jerry sits staring at his lap.

CUSTOMER
...  A fucking liar -

WIFE
Bucky, please!

Jerry mumbles into his lap:

JERRY
One hunnert's the best we can
do here.

CUSTOMER
Oh, for Christ's sake, where's my
goddamn checkbook.  Let's get this
over with.


On 3/14/15 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
It's got some sort of 3M clear film on the nose and hood that was 
installed by the VA dealer to prevent rock chips.  Hmm.


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Re: [MBZ] OT apropos of nothing, but interesting and I thought good

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Segregation in schools is even worse today than it was 50-60 years ago.  This 
is a good example if you have the time to listen to it:

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/550/three-miles

Dan


> On Mar 14, 2015, at 6:43 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Rich, 
> 
> Thanks,  nice little bit of recent history. 
> 
> Talking about discrimination in the grade schools, I was really struck by one 
> of the ladies comments that she felt her role was to prove (as a black 
> student) that she was just as capable as the white students. 
> 
> That was about fifty years ago. 
> 
> Now we have a unified school board for all of Charleston county. I think that 
> a majority of the school board members are black. About three years ago,  
> they released a five-year plan for raising student performance, with goals 
> each year for increasing the English and math proficiency at each grade 
> level. 
> 
> They had different, lower standards for black kids. 
> 
> I was, and still am, flabbergasted. I challenged several Principals and 
> school board members, but they all tried to explain about "difficult 
> socioeconomic circumstances" and such BS.
> 
> Seems to me that many of our current school board and Charleston county 
> school district employees are completely ignorant of this local history, are 
> racist, and need to find employment elsewhere. 
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT apropos of nothing, but interesting and I thought good

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Rich, 

Thanks,  nice little bit of recent history. 

Talking about discrimination in the grade schools, I was really struck by one 
of the ladies comments that she felt her role was to prove (as a black student) 
that she was just as capable as the white students. 

That was about fifty years ago. 

Now we have a unified school board for all of Charleston county. I think that a 
majority of the school board members are black. About three years ago,  they 
released a five-year plan for raising student performance, with goals each year 
for increasing the English and math proficiency at each grade level. 

They had different, lower standards for black kids. 

I was, and still am, flabbergasted. I challenged several Principals and school 
board members, but they all tried to explain about "difficult socioeconomic 
circumstances" and such BS.

Seems to me that many of our current school board and Charleston county school 
district employees are completely ignorant of this local history, are racist, 
and need to find employment elsewhere. 
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - THE CORN CROP

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Rich Thomas wrote:

> There was one of those corn shellers in the barn when I sold the farm in 
> KY, had an auction beforehand, not sure how much it brought...snip 

Which county was that, Rich?
GerryWarren County

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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - THE CORN CROP

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

There was one of those corn shellers in the barn when I sold the farm in 
KY, had an auction beforehand, not sure how much it brought.  I thought 
about keeping it but had nowhere to put it and not sure what I would 
have done with it had I kept it.  I think some Amish guy bought it, they 
go for that stuff.


There was also a hand version of the sower for the garden, it had a 
bunch of little gear-type things you put a different one in depending on 
what kind of seed you were planting.


Did you ever ride on the tobacco planter and use it?  I remember my 
granddaddy had one, one morning he would go out and pick all the little 
plants from the plant bed, then hitch the mule to the planter and off to 
the field.  He would have to get another man to either drive the mule or 
work the planting.  It had a sort of conveyor with little pointed trays 
on it, kinda like a little garden trowel, which was geared to the wheels 
on the planter, as you went along the guy working the plants would put a 
plant in the tray which would then go down and get stuck in the ground 
by the pointy tray thing.  I guess it was all organized to get the 
plants at just the proper spacing. Had to work that thing fast.


--R



On 3/13/15 10:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Yep, another one:

THE CORN CROP
By Wilton Strickland

Preparing the soil for corn was done much the same way as for 
cotton. The same planter was used with a different seed disk installed 
to space plants farther apart.  The crop also required periodic 
plowing and chopping with hand-held hoes to keep fields cleared of 
weeds and grass.
At least once during the growing season we gave the corn plants 
additional fertilizer by dropping a small hand full of sodium nitrate 
("soda") near each plant.  As a boy of 9, 10, 11, I used a smaller 
bucket than my older, bigger brothers to carry the "soda" along in my 
left hand as I applied it near the plants with my right hand.  My 
bucket was usually a gallon paint can with a rag wrapped around the 
handle to ease the pain of the handle cutting into my hand.
We usually harvested the dried corn in October or November by hand 
one ear at a time.  Two mules pulled a wagon through the field 
straddling a row of corn.  Two to four men or boys would walk along 
between the rows of corn near the wagon and pull each ear of corn from 
its stalk and throw it into the wagon.  We were seldom lucky enough to 
have gloves to protect our hands from the cutting leaves and shucks.  
When the wagon was full, we would take the corn to the crib - a 
storage building usually adjoining the stables and hog pen where the 
corn was often used to feed the animals.  Like most activities on our 
farm, the unloading was also done by hand.
The corn crib usually included a mechanical, hand-cranked corn 
sheller mounted on the side of a wooden box on legs that raised it to 
a comfortable standing height.  The shelling mechanism was a disc 
rotated by the hand crank.  On the inner face of the disc were lots of 
little spikes or nipple-like protrusions that would grip and loosen 
the kernels of corn as the ear was deposited into a chute at the top.  
One side of the chute was mounted on adjustable springs that allowed 
the chute diameter to expand and contract to fit the size of the ear 
of corn and keep pressure on the kernels.  The rotating disc would 
give the ear of corn a spinning motion and pull it farther down into 
the chute causing the kernels to separate from the cob and fall into a 
box beneath the sheller.  The diameter of the chute decreased toward 
the bottom to ensure that all of the kernels were removed. The cobs 
would continue on through the chute and be discharged out one side of 
the unit as rotation of the disc continued.  Another ear of corn could 
be inserted at the top of the chute before the ear ahead of it had 
finished to provide more efficient use of the cranking motion.


Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I saw that stuff on some new cars at the MB dealer a coupla weeks ago.  
Probably a $500 upcharge


--R

CUSTOMER
We sat here right in this room and
went over this and over this!

JERRY
Yah, but that TruCoat -

CUSTOMER
I sat right here and said I didn't
want no TruCoat!

JERRY
Yah, but I'm sayin', that TruCoat,
you don't get it and you get
oxidization problems.  It'll cost
you a heck of lot more'n five
hunnert -

CUSTOMER
You're sittin' here, you're talkin'
in circles!  You're talkin' like
we didn't go over this already!

JERRY
Yah, but this TruCoat -

CUSTOMER
We had us a deal here for nine-
teen-five.  You sat there and
darned if you didn't tell me
you'd get this car, these options,
WITHOUT THE SEALANT, for nine-
teen-five!

JERRY
Okay, I'm not sayin' I didn't -

CUSTOMER
You called me twenty minutes ago
and said you had it!  Ready to
make delivery, ya says!  Come on
down and get it!  And here ya are
and you're wastin' my time and
you're wastin' my wife's time and
I'm payin' nineteen-five for this
vehicle here!

JERRY
Well, okay, I'll talk to my boss...

He rises, and, as he leaves:

JERRY
...  See, they install that TruCoat
at the factory, there's nothin' we
can do, but I'll talk to my boss.

The couple watch him go to a nearby cubicle.

CUSTOMER
These guys here - these guys!
It's always the same!  It's always
more!  He's a liar!

WIFE
Please, dear.

CUSTOMER
We went over this and over this -

NEARBY CUBICLE

Jerry sits perched on the desk of another salesman who is
eating lunch as he watches a hockey game on a small portable
TV.

JERRY
So you're goin' to the Gophers
on Sunday?

SALESMAN
You bet.

JERRY
You wouldn't have an extra ticket
there?

SALESMAN
They're playin' the Buckeyes!

JERRY
Yah.

SALESMAN
Ya kiddin'!

JERRY'S CUBICLE

Jerry re-enters.

JERRY
Well, he never done this before,
but seein' as it's special
circumstances and all, he says I
can knock one hunnert off that
TruCoat.

CUSTOMER
One hundred!  You lied to me, Mr.
Lundegaard.  You're a bald-faced
liar!

Jerry sits staring at his lap.

CUSTOMER
...  A fucking liar -

WIFE
Bucky, please!

Jerry mumbles into his lap:

JERRY
One hunnert's the best we can
do here.

CUSTOMER
Oh, for Christ's sake, where's my
goddamn checkbook.  Let's get this
over with.


On 3/14/15 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

It's got some sort of 3M clear film on the nose and hood that was installed by 
the VA dealer to prevent rock chips.  Hmm.


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Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car - addendum

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Believe it or not, they can be helpful in the "winter".  I wish my SL had them.

Dan


> On Mar 14, 2015, at 3:55 PM, WILTON  wrote:
> 
> Yep, heated seats - big plus in FL, eh?   ;<)
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> 
> To: "Mercedes List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car - addendum
> 
> 
>> It has a rear sun shade that's not working - no biggie, easy fix.  It also 
>> has heated seats.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looked at a 1999 S320 this morning in Sarasota.  Former diplomatic corps 
>>> retiree with more money than he knows what to do with.  Long time MB owner, 
>>> first one was a new 1979 300D he did through diplomatic program with 
>>> European delivery.   His wife just bought a Maserati convertible for a 
>>> "fun" car.  Go figure.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, car has 154k on it, second owner (not first as he said in the ad), 
>>> a CPO car when he bought it in Alexandria, VA from the MB dealer there.  
>>> 3000 mile oil changes, all service done by the dealer with documentation, 
>>> good mechanicals, pretty decent cosmetics, everything works.
>>> 
>>> The car was amazingly peppy for a six in a W140 chassis, as we took it out 
>>> on the interstate and I really put my foot into it.  Certainly not the 
>>> neck-snapping response you get from the M119, but still pretty good 
>>> considering the significantly smaller engine with the same amount of iron 
>>> behind it and the AC running full blast.
>>> 
>>> It's got some sort of 3M clear film on the nose and hood that was installed 
>>> by the VA dealer to prevent rock chips.  Hmm.  Looks like it can come off 
>>> easily, and since it's clear there doesn't seem to be any effect on the 
>>> paint color (black).  Both front and rear bumpers are faded, and the top 
>>> portions of the front bumper are starting to fail paint-wise, which is not 
>>> surprising and something commonly seen on these cars, especially down here. 
>>>  Engine compartment was clean and everything was intact and in place.  
>>> Looks like it might need motor mounts, but there wasn't a noticeable amount 
>>> of vibration in the passenger compartment.  They just looked collapsed.
>>> 
>>> Bottom of the car and wheel wells were clean with no signs of rust.  Some 
>>> minor surface rust on some of the front suspension components, but nothing 
>>> of significance.  Good tires ("It's always had Michelins!") but dirty 
>>> wheels.  Lots of brake pad present.  Trunk is clean and all the things you 
>>> would expect are in it, including an MB cover for the car.  No signs of 
>>> water or other nastiness.  1.5 year old MB battery.
>>> 
>>> Interior leather had some overall wear but no rips, tears or breakdown, 
>>> especially on the driver's side bolster.  All the interior bits work, 
>>> including sunroof, seats and instrumentation.  Original Becker with trunk 
>>> mounted CD changer.  AC worked and showed no error codes in diagnostics, 
>>> and was ICE COLD during our drive with an ambient of about 85F.  Carpets 
>>> are clean and pretty much unworn.  Headliner is clean and intact.
>>> 
>>> Negatives:
>>> 
>>> Driver's side rear door has ding in front of door handle where someone 
>>> nailed them in a parking lot with a car door or something.  Not something 
>>> the paintless dent guys could fix, I think, but I'm not sure.  Paint isn't 
>>> broken, which is good.
>>> 
>>> As mentioned previously, both front and rear bumpers need repaint.  Side 
>>> lower trim panels look a little flat as well, but that may be me.  It's 
>>> possible a hard core Martha session could bring them back.
>>> 
>>> All in all, a definitely contender for addition to the fleet.
>>> 
>>> He's been asking $4500 or best offer and has had no takers, for that 
>>> matter, no one else has looked at the car.  It's a $3500 car in this 
>>> market, which I may offer him once I see the other car in Orlando later 
>>> today if my plans work out.  He and the wife are leaving on one of those 
>>> European river cruises this Wednesday and will be gone for a couple of 
>>> weeks, so if I can't work something out before that I'll have to keep 
>>> searching if I'm interested.  If I do follow through, I'm thinking having 
>>> $3500 cash in hand before popping off to Europe might be some incentive, 
>>> but it's clear this guy has a LOT of money, so that might not be a big 
>>> motivation.
>>> 
>>> We'll see.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 14, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Not a 4-matic,  so possible rusty front spring perches.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
 
 On March 14, 2015 9:53:45 AM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
  wrote:
> But for the price he might as well get that amg
> 
> 2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E430 **Guaranteed Financing**
> http://stlouis.cr

Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car - addendum

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, heated seats - big plus in FL, eh?   ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car - addendum


It has a rear sun shade that's not working - no biggie, easy fix.  It also 
has heated seats.


Dan


On Mar 14, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Looked at a 1999 S320 this morning in Sarasota.  Former diplomatic corps 
retiree with more money than he knows what to do with.  Long time MB 
owner, first one was a new 1979 300D he did through diplomatic program 
with European delivery.   His wife just bought a Maserati convertible for 
a "fun" car.  Go figure.


Anyway, car has 154k on it, second owner (not first as he said in the 
ad), a CPO car when he bought it in Alexandria, VA from the MB dealer 
there.  3000 mile oil changes, all service done by the dealer with 
documentation, good mechanicals, pretty decent cosmetics, everything 
works.


The car was amazingly peppy for a six in a W140 chassis, as we took it 
out on the interstate and I really put my foot into it.  Certainly not 
the neck-snapping response you get from the M119, but still pretty good 
considering the significantly smaller engine with the same amount of iron 
behind it and the AC running full blast.


It's got some sort of 3M clear film on the nose and hood that was 
installed by the VA dealer to prevent rock chips.  Hmm.  Looks like it 
can come off easily, and since it's clear there doesn't seem to be any 
effect on the paint color (black).  Both front and rear bumpers are 
faded, and the top portions of the front bumper are starting to fail 
paint-wise, which is not surprising and something commonly seen on these 
cars, especially down here.  Engine compartment was clean and everything 
was intact and in place.  Looks like it might need motor mounts, but 
there wasn't a noticeable amount of vibration in the passenger 
compartment.  They just looked collapsed.


Bottom of the car and wheel wells were clean with no signs of rust.  Some 
minor surface rust on some of the front suspension components, but 
nothing of significance.  Good tires ("It's always had Michelins!") but 
dirty wheels.  Lots of brake pad present.  Trunk is clean and all the 
things you would expect are in it, including an MB cover for the car.  No 
signs of water or other nastiness.  1.5 year old MB battery.


Interior leather had some overall wear but no rips, tears or breakdown, 
especially on the driver's side bolster.  All the interior bits work, 
including sunroof, seats and instrumentation.  Original Becker with trunk 
mounted CD changer.  AC worked and showed no error codes in diagnostics, 
and was ICE COLD during our drive with an ambient of about 85F.  Carpets 
are clean and pretty much unworn.  Headliner is clean and intact.


Negatives:

Driver's side rear door has ding in front of door handle where someone 
nailed them in a parking lot with a car door or something.  Not something 
the paintless dent guys could fix, I think, but I'm not sure.  Paint 
isn't broken, which is good.


As mentioned previously, both front and rear bumpers need repaint.  Side 
lower trim panels look a little flat as well, but that may be me.  It's 
possible a hard core Martha session could bring them back.


All in all, a definitely contender for addition to the fleet.

He's been asking $4500 or best offer and has had no takers, for that 
matter, no one else has looked at the car.  It's a $3500 car in this 
market, which I may offer him once I see the other car in Orlando later 
today if my plans work out.  He and the wife are leaving on one of those 
European river cruises this Wednesday and will be gone for a couple of 
weeks, so if I can't work something out before that I'll have to keep 
searching if I'm interested.  If I do follow through, I'm thinking having 
$3500 cash in hand before popping off to Europe might be some incentive, 
but it's clear this guy has a LOT of money, so that might not be a big 
motivation.


We'll see.

Dan



On Mar 14, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Not a 4-matic,  so possible rusty front spring perches.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 14, 2015 9:53:45 AM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:

But for the price he might as well get that amg

2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E430 **Guaranteed Financing**
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ctd/4930698221.html

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Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car - addendum

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It has a rear sun shade that's not working - no biggie, easy fix.  It also has 
heated seats.

Dan


> On Mar 14, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Looked at a 1999 S320 this morning in Sarasota.  Former diplomatic corps 
> retiree with more money than he knows what to do with.  Long time MB owner, 
> first one was a new 1979 300D he did through diplomatic program with European 
> delivery.   His wife just bought a Maserati convertible for a "fun" car.  Go 
> figure.
> 
> Anyway, car has 154k on it, second owner (not first as he said in the ad), a 
> CPO car when he bought it in Alexandria, VA from the MB dealer there.  3000 
> mile oil changes, all service done by the dealer with documentation, good 
> mechanicals, pretty decent cosmetics, everything works.
> 
> The car was amazingly peppy for a six in a W140 chassis, as we took it out on 
> the interstate and I really put my foot into it.  Certainly not the 
> neck-snapping response you get from the M119, but still pretty good 
> considering the significantly smaller engine with the same amount of iron 
> behind it and the AC running full blast.
> 
> It's got some sort of 3M clear film on the nose and hood that was installed 
> by the VA dealer to prevent rock chips.  Hmm.  Looks like it can come off 
> easily, and since it's clear there doesn't seem to be any effect on the paint 
> color (black).  Both front and rear bumpers are faded, and the top portions 
> of the front bumper are starting to fail paint-wise, which is not surprising 
> and something commonly seen on these cars, especially down here.  Engine 
> compartment was clean and everything was intact and in place.  Looks like it 
> might need motor mounts, but there wasn't a noticeable amount of vibration in 
> the passenger compartment.  They just looked collapsed.
> 
> Bottom of the car and wheel wells were clean with no signs of rust.  Some 
> minor surface rust on some of the front suspension components, but nothing of 
> significance.  Good tires ("It's always had Michelins!") but dirty wheels.  
> Lots of brake pad present.  Trunk is clean and all the things you would 
> expect are in it, including an MB cover for the car.  No signs of water or 
> other nastiness.  1.5 year old MB battery.
> 
> Interior leather had some overall wear but no rips, tears or breakdown, 
> especially on the driver's side bolster.  All the interior bits work, 
> including sunroof, seats and instrumentation.  Original Becker with trunk 
> mounted CD changer.  AC worked and showed no error codes in diagnostics, and 
> was ICE COLD during our drive with an ambient of about 85F.  Carpets are 
> clean and pretty much unworn.  Headliner is clean and intact.
> 
> Negatives:
> 
> Driver's side rear door has ding in front of door handle where someone nailed 
> them in a parking lot with a car door or something.  Not something the 
> paintless dent guys could fix, I think, but I'm not sure.  Paint isn't 
> broken, which is good.
> 
> As mentioned previously, both front and rear bumpers need repaint.  Side 
> lower trim panels look a little flat as well, but that may be me.  It's 
> possible a hard core Martha session could bring them back.
> 
> All in all, a definitely contender for addition to the fleet.
> 
> He's been asking $4500 or best offer and has had no takers, for that matter, 
> no one else has looked at the car.  It's a $3500 car in this market, which I 
> may offer him once I see the other car in Orlando later today if my plans 
> work out.  He and the wife are leaving on one of those European river cruises 
> this Wednesday and will be gone for a couple of weeks, so if I can't work 
> something out before that I'll have to keep searching if I'm interested.  If 
> I do follow through, I'm thinking having $3500 cash in hand before popping 
> off to Europe might be some incentive, but it's clear this guy has a LOT of 
> money, so that might not be a big motivation.
> 
> We'll see.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Not a 4-matic,  so possible rusty front spring perches. 
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>> On March 14, 2015 9:53:45 AM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>>> But for the price he might as well get that amg
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looked at a 1999 S320 this morning in Sarasota.  Former diplomatic corps 
retiree with more money than he knows what to do with.  Long time MB owner, 
first one was a new 1979 300D he did through diplomatic program with European 
delivery.   His wife just bought a Maserati convertible for a "fun" car.  Go 
figure.

Anyway, car has 154k on it, second owner (not first as he said in the ad), a 
CPO car when he bought it in Alexandria, VA from the MB dealer there.  3000 
mile oil changes, all service done by the dealer with documentation, good 
mechanicals, pretty decent cosmetics, everything works.

The car was amazingly peppy for a six in a W140 chassis, as we took it out on 
the interstate and I really put my foot into it.  Certainly not the 
neck-snapping response you get from the M119, but still pretty good considering 
the significantly smaller engine with the same amount of iron behind it and the 
AC running full blast.

It's got some sort of 3M clear film on the nose and hood that was installed by 
the VA dealer to prevent rock chips.  Hmm.  Looks like it can come off easily, 
and since it's clear there doesn't seem to be any effect on the paint color 
(black).  Both front and rear bumpers are faded, and the top portions of the 
front bumper are starting to fail paint-wise, which is not surprising and 
something commonly seen on these cars, especially down here.  Engine 
compartment was clean and everything was intact and in place.  Looks like it 
might need motor mounts, but there wasn't a noticeable amount of vibration in 
the passenger compartment.  They just looked collapsed.

Bottom of the car and wheel wells were clean with no signs of rust.  Some minor 
surface rust on some of the front suspension components, but nothing of 
significance.  Good tires ("It's always had Michelins!") but dirty wheels.  
Lots of brake pad present.  Trunk is clean and all the things you would expect 
are in it, including an MB cover for the car.  No signs of water or other 
nastiness.  1.5 year old MB battery.

Interior leather had some overall wear but no rips, tears or breakdown, 
especially on the driver's side bolster.  All the interior bits work, including 
sunroof, seats and instrumentation.  Original Becker with trunk mounted CD 
changer.  AC worked and showed no error codes in diagnostics, and was ICE COLD 
during our drive with an ambient of about 85F.  Carpets are clean and pretty 
much unworn.  Headliner is clean and intact.

Negatives:

Driver's side rear door has ding in front of door handle where someone nailed 
them in a parking lot with a car door or something.  Not something the 
paintless dent guys could fix, I think, but I'm not sure.  Paint isn't broken, 
which is good.

As mentioned previously, both front and rear bumpers need repaint.  Side lower 
trim panels look a little flat as well, but that may be me.  It's possible a 
hard core Martha session could bring them back.

All in all, a definitely contender for addition to the fleet.

He's been asking $4500 or best offer and has had no takers, for that matter, no 
one else has looked at the car.  It's a $3500 car in this market, which I may 
offer him once I see the other car in Orlando later today if my plans work out. 
 He and the wife are leaving on one of those European river cruises this 
Wednesday and will be gone for a couple of weeks, so if I can't work something 
out before that I'll have to keep searching if I'm interested.  If I do follow 
through, I'm thinking having $3500 cash in hand before popping off to Europe 
might be some incentive, but it's clear this guy has a LOT of money, so that 
might not be a big motivation.

We'll see.

Dan



> On Mar 14, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not a 4-matic,  so possible rusty front spring perches. 
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On March 14, 2015 9:53:45 AM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
>> But for the price he might as well get that amg
>> 
>> 2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E430 **Guaranteed Financing**
>> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ctd/4930698221.html
>> 
>> via cPro Craigslist App
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>> Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Potential poos car

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Not a 4-matic,  so possible rusty front spring perches. 
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 14, 2015 9:53:45 AM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>But for the price he might as well get that amg
>
>2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E430 **Guaranteed Financing**
>http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ctd/4930698221.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - THE CORN CROP

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Thanks.

Not any superstitions that I'm aware of.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "David & Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - THE CORN CROP



On 3/13/2015 10:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Yep, another one:

THE CORN CROP


 Wilton, I really enjoy the stories you post.  In my experience it's 
rare for a person with a technical background to write so well.  And I 
like the subjects you choose - real work rather than just some artsy 
impressionist stuff.


 I can relate to those old farming ways.  My grandfather's Ozark farm 
had one of the corn shellers you describe  mounted next to the corn crib 
along with a hand operated burr disk apparatus.


 One of the places I bought here in WV came with a barn collapsed on a 
seed grain cleaner the size of a VW beetle.   It blew air via a hand 
cranked paddle wheel across a system of moving screens.  There were tongue 
and groove tight bins for the grain. This was on the second floor, above a 
scale that weighed wagons. Further down the road was a threshing machine 
in its own collapsed shed with an iron wheeled Fordson tractor rusting 
next to it.  When the neighbor who wanted the tractor pulled it out only 
the top two thirds of the wheels were left and he had to skid it onto his 
trailer.  I saved the threshing machine for years for a fellow from the 
Waynesburg PA historical society only to find he had died and no one else 
was interested.  It is pretty much melted away now.


 On another subject, I have an interest you might want to write on.  I 
have heard bomber pilots are a superstitious group.  Not wanting their 
pictures taken and that sort of thing.  Did you B52 guys in Vietnam have 
superstitions?


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - THE CORN CROP

[David & Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes]

On 3/13/2015 10:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

Yep, another one:

THE CORN CROP


 Wilton, I really enjoy the stories you post.  In my experience 
it's rare for a person with a technical background to write so well.  
And I like the subjects you choose - real work rather than just some 
artsy impressionist stuff.


 I can relate to those old farming ways.  My grandfather's Ozark 
farm had one of the corn shellers you describe  mounted next to the corn 
crib along with a hand operated burr disk apparatus.


 One of the places I bought here in WV came with a barn collapsed 
on a seed grain cleaner the size of a VW beetle.   It blew air via a 
hand cranked paddle wheel across a system of moving screens.  There were 
tongue and groove tight bins for the grain. This was on the second 
floor, above a scale that weighed wagons. Further down the road was a 
threshing machine in its own collapsed shed with an iron wheeled Fordson 
tractor rusting next to it.  When the neighbor who wanted the tractor 
pulled it out only the top two thirds of the wheels were left and he had 
to skid it onto his trailer.  I saved the threshing machine for years 
for a fellow from the Waynesburg PA historical society only to find he 
had died and no one else was interested.  It is pretty much melted away now.


 On another subject, I have an interest you might want to write 
on.  I have heard bomber pilots are a superstitious group.  Not wanting 
their pictures taken and that sort of thing.  Did you B52 guys in 
Vietnam have superstitions?


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


 Not all those who wander are lost.

















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[MBZ] Potential poos car

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

But for the price he might as well get that amg

2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E430 **Guaranteed Financing**
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 E55 AMG

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

For comparison, here is one on ebay with very low miles.  Bidding just over
$6K as I write.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-AMG-E55-MERCEDES-BENZ-AMG-E55-/291401950173?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43d8e8e3dd&item=291401950173&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I may go look at this car tomorrow.  I did a drive by today (I didn't have
> time to dawdle) and other than the exterior being dirty it looked OK.
>
> It's a 2001 E55 AMG, it's got 143k on the clock, three owners with full
> dealer records up until about a year ago.  Florida car, delivered in
> Pompano in 2001 and lived there until a year ago, where the records stop.
> At that time it went to SC and came back here as a repo, or so it appears.
>
> I know little or nothing about the W210 chassis, so please enlighten me
> about places I should look.  I would expect to have a PPI done at MB or
> Tampa if I am interested, but I would do a preliminary go-over myself to
> see if there's anything that would eliminate it out of the gate.
>
> It's at a local mom & pop dealer that is on a road with all the big local
> dealers.  Looks like they deal primarily in high line cars.  They are
> asking $6500 for it, which is actually in line for the car in the condition
> it appears and mileage.
>
> Carfax history below.  Hopefully the formatting doesn't get borked by the
> list.
>
> Dan
>
> >> 06/26/2001   12  Florida
> >> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> >> Boca Raton, FL   Odometer reading reported
> >> 07/10/2001   Florida
> >> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> >> Boca Raton, FL
> >> Title #0083605971Title issued or updated
> >> First owner reported
> >> Titled or registered as
> >> personal vehicle
> >> 08/26/2001   1,056   Mercedes-Benz of Pompano
> >> Pompano Beach, FL
> >> 954-943-5000
> >> benzpompano.com Vehicle serviced
> >> 06/10/2002   8,331   Mercedes-Benz of Pompano
> >> Pompano Beach, FL
> >> 954-943-5000
> >> benzpompano.com Valve body replaced
> >> Engine/powertrain computer/module reprogrammed
> >> Interior trim repaired
> >> Transmission checked
> >> Alignment checked
> >> Valve body overhauled/resealed
> >> Two wheel alignment performed
> >> Transmission computer/module checked
> >> Brakes checked
> >> Alignment performed
> >> Dash trim panel replaced/repaired
> >> 08/26/2002   10,302  Mercedes-Benz of Pompano
> >> Pompano Beach, FL
> >> 954-943-5000
> >> benzpompano.com Recommended maintenance
> performed
> >> Maintenance inspection completed
> >> Oil and filter changed
> >> Blower motor operation checked
> >> Electrical system checked
> >> A/C and heating temperature control checked
> >> ABS system checked
> >> Brake light switch replaced
> >> Engine/powertrain computer/module checked
> >> A/C system checked
> >> 10/17/2002   11,905  Mercedes-Benz of Pompano
> >> Pompano Beach, FL
> >> 954-943-5000
> >> benzpompano.com Sunvisor(s)
> replaced/repaired
> >> Transmission checked
> >> 12/26/2002   Florida
> >> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> >> Delray Beach, FL
> >> Title #0083605971Registration issued or renewed
> >> Titled or registered as
> >> personal vehicle
> >> Registration updated when owner moved
> >> the vehicle to a new location
> >> Vehicle color noted as Black
> >> 04/04/2003   17,148  Mercedes-Benz of Pompano
> >> Pompano Beach, FL
> >> 954-943-5000
> >> benzpompano.com Four wheel alignment
> performed
> >> 05/13/2003   18,312  Mercedes-Benz of Pompano
> >> Pompano Beach, FL
> >> 954-943-5000
> >> benzpompano.com Maintenance inspection
> completed
> >> Engine/powertrain computer/module reprogrammed
> >> Engine checked
> >> Valve body overhauled/resealed
> >> Steering gear replaced
> >> Alignment performed
> >> Drive belt(s) replaced
> >> Power steering fluid leak checked
> >> Electrical system checked
> >> Valve body replaced
> >> Starter replaced
> >> 11/03/2003   22,851  Mercedes-Benz of Pompano
> >> Pompano Beach, FL
> >> 954-943-5000
> >> benzpompano.com Recommended maintenance
> performed
> >> Brake fluid flushed/changed
> >> Telephone handset replaced
> >> 12/15/2003   Florida
> >> Motor Vehicle Dept.
> >> Delray Beach, FL
> >> Title #0083605971Registration issued or renewed
> >> Titled or registered as
> >> personal vehicle
> >> Vehicle color noted as Black
> >> 12/31/2003   24,226  Mercedes-Benz of Pompano
> >> Pompano Beach, FL
> >> 954-943-5000
> >> benzpompano.com Engine checked
> >> 02/02/2004   25,154  Mercedes-Benz of Pompano
> >> Pompano Beach, FL
> >> 954-943-5000
> >> benzpompano.com Vehicle serviced
> >> 03/15/2004   Mercedes-Benz of Pompano
> >> Pompano Beach, FL
> >> 954-943-5000
> >> benzpompano.com Vehicle ser