Re: [MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Which little computer? Aren't there dozens of them? How would you choose
which one(s) to give backup power, and which ones have to loose power when
you shut down the car? I appreciate the simplicity of my Cessna more all
the time!

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote


Well, the whole frickin POS is dependent on electrons to run.   It is to be
> expected that some electrons will go AWOL.
>
> How about you install a battery backed up regulated power supply (isolated
> from the rest of the electrical systems) just to keep the little computer
> happy
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] mounting tires tars

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Sure thing

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On May 20, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> I do not pay to mount tires since I have a tire machine and spin balancer so 
>> I do it myself
> 
> So if we ship the tars to you, you'll mount on the appropriate wheels,  and 
> balance them, and send them to us for free?
> 
> Sounds like a deal to me!
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Re: [MBZ] mounting tires tars

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I do not pay to mount tires since I have a tire machine and spin 
balancer so I do it myself




So if we ship the tars to you, you'll mount on the appropriate 
wheels,  and balance them, and send them to us for free?


Sounds like a deal to me!

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Re: [MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So what year is this car?

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> On May 20, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Those error codes are disturbingly wide reaching.
> 
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Car died on the youngster the other night.  Fortunately it was a block
>>> away from the house, all downhill.
>>> 
>>> Same issue as before, cranks, fires, starts, dies as soon as you release
>>> the key.
>>> 
>>> I went into the "coffin" and replaced the four 10 amp fuses on the
>>> diagnostic module.  Car started right up and ran fine.
>>> 
>>> Quickly pulled it into the driveway and got my DAS system on it.  It
>>> showed the following codes:
>>> 
>>> It acts like there's some sort of voltage problem, like the voltage is
>>> dropping when the key is released, which makes the electrical stuff wonky.
>>> The codes sort of point at this too.
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure if maybe the fuses were bad/old/cracked/marginal, whatever.
>>> I told him to drive the Mazda 6 to school and when  he got home to drive
>>> the S500.  I cleared the codes so it will be interesting to see what, if
>>> anything, comes up later.
>>> 
>>> Hopefully this put an end to the issue.
>>> 
>>> CHANGE THE FUSES!!
>> 
>> 
>> Well, the whole frickin POS is dependent on electrons to run.   It is to
>> be expected that some electrons will go AWOL.
>> 
>> How about you install a battery backed up regulated power supply (isolated
>> from the rest of the electrical systems) just to keep the little computer
>> happy
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Those error codes are disturbingly wide reaching.

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Car died on the youngster the other night.  Fortunately it was a block
>> away from the house, all downhill.
>>
>> Same issue as before, cranks, fires, starts, dies as soon as you release
>> the key.
>>
>> I went into the "coffin" and replaced the four 10 amp fuses on the
>> diagnostic module.  Car started right up and ran fine.
>>
>> Quickly pulled it into the driveway and got my DAS system on it.  It
>> showed the following codes:
>>
>> It acts like there's some sort of voltage problem, like the voltage is
>> dropping when the key is released, which makes the electrical stuff wonky.
>> The codes sort of point at this too.
>>
>> I'm not sure if maybe the fuses were bad/old/cracked/marginal, whatever.
>> I told him to drive the Mazda 6 to school and when  he got home to drive
>> the S500.  I cleared the codes so it will be interesting to see what, if
>> anything, comes up later.
>>
>> Hopefully this put an end to the issue.
>>
>> CHANGE THE FUSES!!
>>
>
>
> Well, the whole frickin POS is dependent on electrons to run.   It is to
> be expected that some electrons will go AWOL.
>
> How about you install a battery backed up regulated power supply (isolated
> from the rest of the electrical systems) just to keep the little computer
> happy
>
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Re: [MBZ] mounting tires tars

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I do not pay to mount tires since I have a tire machine and spin balancer so I 
do it myself 

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> On May 20, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In athens, ga i pay $10 per tire for mounting and balance …. but i take all 
> old tires away for disposal (and i usually get rid of them when the county 
> has tire amnesty and accepts them for free)
> 
> i did it two days ago for that price
> 
> the work is done on modern tire machines
> 
> if i let the tire guys mount the wheels (i often carry the wheels in) i hand 
> install the lug bolts so i can remove them on the side of the road if need be
> 
> so a set of go forms can be mounted for $40
> 
> and i usually tip the guy who does the work a few bux
> 
> cash no tax
> 
> thanks,
> 
> xx rick
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[MBZ] mounting tires tars

[Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes]

In athens, ga i pay $10 per tire for mounting and balance …. but i take all old 
tires away for disposal (and i usually get rid of them when the county has tire 
amnesty and accepts them for free)

i did it two days ago for that price

the work is done on modern tire machines

if i let the tire guys mount the wheels (i often carry the wheels in) i hand 
install the lug bolts so i can remove them on the side of the road if need be

so a set of go forms can be mounted for $40

and i usually tip the guy who does the work a few bux

cash no tax

thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Car died on the youngster the other night.  Fortunately it was a 
block away from the house, all downhill.


Same issue as before, cranks, fires, starts, dies as soon as you 
release the key.


I went into the "coffin" and replaced the four 10 amp fuses on the 
diagnostic module.  Car started right up and ran fine.


Quickly pulled it into the driveway and got my DAS system on it.  It 
showed the following codes:


It acts like there's some sort of voltage problem, like the voltage 
is dropping when the key is released, which makes the electrical 
stuff wonky.  The codes sort of point at this too.


I'm not sure if maybe the fuses were bad/old/cracked/marginal, 
whatever.  I told him to drive the Mazda 6 to school and when  he 
got home to drive the S500.  I cleared the codes so it will be 
interesting to see what, if anything, comes up later.


Hopefully this put an end to the issue.

CHANGE THE FUSES!!



Well, the whole frickin POS is dependent on electrons to run.   It is 
to be expected that some electrons will go AWOL.


How about you install a battery backed up regulated power supply 
(isolated from the rest of the electrical systems) just to keep the 
little computer happy


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Re: [MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s what I said in a post on BenzWorld.

If it was an older domestic car it would be a ballast resistor….



> On May 20, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> ‎Dan writes:
> 
>> Same issue as before, cranks, >fires, starts, dies as soon as you >release 
>> the key.
>> 
> 
> Back_in_the_day_ those were classic ballast resistor symptoms. 
> 
> 
> Rick 
> I'm old...
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Re: [MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Dan writes:

>Same issue as before, cranks, >fires, starts, dies as soon as you >release the 
>key.
>

Back_in_the_day_ those were classic ballast resistor symptoms. 


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Re: [MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Trying to post the codes it threw, but the Okie server won’t link to my 
pictures.

Here’s a link if you care:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qvm9fpqtx4q0tmh/IMG_0685.jpg?dl=0 


https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwlhcxq0ly1mz6x/IMG_0686.jpg?dl=0 




> On May 20, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Long live Dr. Booth. Change the fuses.
> On May 20, 2015 9:57 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> Car died on the youngster the other night.  Fortunately it was a block
>> away from the house, all downhill.
>> 
>> Same issue as before, cranks, fires, starts, dies as soon as you release
>> the key.
>> 
>> I went into the “coffin” and replaced the four 10 amp fuses on the
>> diagnostic module.  Car started right up and ran fine.
>> 
>> Quickly pulled it into the driveway and got my DAS system on it.  It
>> showed the following codes:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It acts like there’s some sort of voltage problem, like the voltage is
>> dropping when the key is released, which makes the electrical stuff wonky.
>> The codes sort of point at this too.
>> 
>> I’m not sure if maybe the fuses were bad/old/cracked/marginal, whatever.
>> I told him to drive the Mazda 6 to school and when  he got home to drive
>> the S500.  I cleared the codes so it will be interesting to see what, if
>> anything, comes up later.
>> 
>> Hopefully this put an end to the issue.
>> 
>> CHANGE THE FUSES!!
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[MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Car died on the youngster the other night.  Fortunately it was a block away 
from the house, all downhill.

Same issue as before, cranks, fires, starts, dies as soon as you release the 
key.

I went into the “coffin” and replaced the four 10 amp fuses on the diagnostic 
module.  Car started right up and ran fine.

Quickly pulled it into the driveway and got my DAS system on it.  It showed the 
following codes:

It acts like there’s some sort of voltage problem, like the voltage is dropping 
when the key is released, which makes the electrical stuff wonky.  The codes 
sort of point at this too.

I’m not sure if maybe the fuses were bad/old/cracked/marginal, whatever.  I 
told him to drive the Mazda 6 to school and when  he got home to drive the 
S500.  I cleared the codes so it will be interesting to see what, if anything, 
comes up later.

Hopefully this put an end to the issue.

CHANGE THE FUSES!!

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Re: [MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Long live Dr. Booth. Change the fuses.
On May 20, 2015 9:57 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Car died on the youngster the other night.  Fortunately it was a block
> away from the house, all downhill.
>
> Same issue as before, cranks, fires, starts, dies as soon as you release
> the key.
>
> I went into the “coffin” and replaced the four 10 amp fuses on the
> diagnostic module.  Car started right up and ran fine.
>
> Quickly pulled it into the driveway and got my DAS system on it.  It
> showed the following codes:
>
>
>
>
> It acts like there’s some sort of voltage problem, like the voltage is
> dropping when the key is released, which makes the electrical stuff wonky.
> The codes sort of point at this too.
>
> I’m not sure if maybe the fuses were bad/old/cracked/marginal, whatever.
> I told him to drive the Mazda 6 to school and when  he got home to drive
> the S500.  I cleared the codes so it will be interesting to see what, if
> anything, comes up later.
>
> Hopefully this put an end to the issue.
>
> CHANGE THE FUSES!!
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[MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Car died on the youngster the other night.  Fortunately it was a block away 
from the house, all downhill.

Same issue as before, cranks, fires, starts, dies as soon as you release the 
key.

I went into the “coffin” and replaced the four 10 amp fuses on the diagnostic 
module.  Car started right up and ran fine.

Quickly pulled it into the driveway and got my DAS system on it.  It showed the 
following codes:




It acts like there’s some sort of voltage problem, like the voltage is dropping 
when the key is released, which makes the electrical stuff wonky.  The codes 
sort of point at this too.

I’m not sure if maybe the fuses were bad/old/cracked/marginal, whatever.  I 
told him to drive the Mazda 6 to school and when  he got home to drive the 
S500.  I cleared the codes so it will be interesting to see what, if anything, 
comes up later.

Hopefully this put an end to the issue.

CHANGE THE FUSES!!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Grant writes:

>Yes... For a fee...

>Just saying... and since I carry >concealed, I have my criminal >lawyer on
>retainer...
>"Not guilty your Honor"  ;))
‎

http://youtu.be/lP5Xv7QqXiM
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL, white, asking $5500 for Dan or Wilton

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

That is one of my all time favorite movie scenes.  WIlliam H Macy is 
the

greatest actor alive, in this or any other galaxy.


He shovels well.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Maybe they don't bite their own kind...


You ever read the news?  I think they _prefer_ their own kind!

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Re: [MBZ] G63 AMG

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Hahahahahahahaha. I don't see why they cost that much, doesn't seem special to 
me.

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> 
> Are you going to trade that old house for it?
> 
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:31 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Well, pull that change outta ya watch pocket, pay for it and drive it home.
>> 
>> 
>> I am behind the wheel of a 2015 G63 AMG. It can be mine for $145k
> 
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Re: [MBZ] G63 AMG

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Are you going to trade that old house for it?

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:31 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Well, pull that change outta ya watch pocket, pay for it and drive it home.
>
>
>  I am behind the wheel of a 2015 G63 AMG. It can be mine for $145k
>>
>>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Silver green.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes it looks like it.
On May 20, 2015 5:25 PM, "Jon Agne via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Sorry, forgot link:  http://www.190slgroup.com/tech/colors/db218.JPG <
> http://www.190slgroup.com/tech/colors/db218.JPG>
>
>
> > On May 20, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Maybe it’s this color?
> >
> >
> >> On May 20, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Srt of a cross between avocado and pistachio.  Pleasant, though I
> prefer a
> >> greener green...
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1979_Mercedes_280CE_Coupe_For_Sale_resize.jpg
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> >>> This is sn online photo pf a 123 coupe. Same color ss my 79 240D.
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Re: [MBZ] G63 AMG

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Well, pull that change outta ya watch pocket, pay for it and drive it home.

Wilton

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I am behind the wheel of a 2015 G63 AMG. It can be mine for $145k

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Re: [MBZ] Are my emails going through?

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Woot

Darren 

> On May 20, 2015, at 5:25 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
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> Yep.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Oh, yes, I'll bet!!  And skeeters!!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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You won't be immue to black flies.
I knew a fellow who got a phd in geology - a former neighbor.
He worked some summers as a research assistant in the north and recalls 
how bad the black flies were up there.


RB

On 20/05/2015 1:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Geologists are immune too.

In all my field work I never once was threatened by a snake, although I 
did
see a good sized copperhead slithering along the highway near Manassas, 
VA

a couple weeks ago as I was driving back to MD.

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

The only way I know is to get a law degree and pass the bar, or didn't 
you
know that neither snakes nor sharks will ever bite a lawyer? 
Professional

courtesy...

With apologies to Randy, Donald, and the rest...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

How do you avoid snakebite in DC?  Lotsa snakes on the loose there. 535

come to mind, but when you add in the lobbyists, lawyers and other
slithering creatures, there are a whole bunch!

Maybe they don't bite their own kind...



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Re: [MBZ] Are my emails going through?

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep.

Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 5:25 PM
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Re: [MBZ] G63 AMG

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Delicious

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Yes... For a fee...

Just saying... and since I carry concealed, I have my criminal lawyer on
retainer, and his 24 hr. number written on my ankle, so I will always have
it handy while I'm having the full body cavity search in jail intake.

"Not guilty your Honor"  ;))

Boots, to Snakes, to Congress, to lawyers.. amazing how the human mind
associates, isn't it..

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> Hey, just remember that when you are in really deep sh*t, we are the ones
> you call for help.
> Even if you dispatched your poor old mother, we are the ones who will
> stand with you in court and try to point out all of your good qualities to
> the Judge.
>
> RB
>
> On 20/05/2015 1:42 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> The only way I know is to get a law degree and pass the bar, or didn't you
>> know that neither snakes nor sharks will ever bite a lawyer?  Professional
>> courtesy...
>>
>> With apologies to Randy, Donald, and the rest...
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> How do you avoid snakebite in DC?  Lotsa snakes on the loose there. 535
>>
>>> come to mind, but when you add in the lobbyists, lawyers and other
>>> slithering creatures, there are a whole bunch!
>>>
>>> Maybe they don't bite their own kind...
>>>
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[MBZ] G63 AMG

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I am behind the wheel of a 2015 G63 AMG. It can be mine for $145k

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Re: [MBZ] Are my emails going through?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Phale.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

You won't be immue to black flies.
I knew a fellow who got a phd in geology - a former neighbor.
He worked some summers as a research assistant in the north and recalls 
how bad the black flies were up there.


RB

On 20/05/2015 1:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Geologists are immune too.

In all my field work I never once was threatened by a snake, although I did
see a good sized copperhead slithering along the highway near Manassas, VA
a couple weeks ago as I was driving back to MD.

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The only way I know is to get a law degree and pass the bar, or didn't you
know that neither snakes nor sharks will ever bite a lawyer?  Professional
courtesy...

With apologies to Randy, Donald, and the rest...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

How do you avoid snakebite in DC?  Lotsa snakes on the loose there. 535

come to mind, but when you add in the lobbyists, lawyers and other
slithering creatures, there are a whole bunch!

Maybe they don't bite their own kind...



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Re: [MBZ] Paint colors

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

But, a recent survey found that a whopping percentage of people assumed 
that people with black cars were powerful people.


The same survey found that people assumed that red vehicles were driven 
by risk takers.


I don't know that I agree with the latter statement as both of my 
vehicles are red and I have never considered myself a risk taker.


RB

On 20/05/2015 1:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
My first MB was DB-186 Cement Gray.  (with bright red interior, and 
the only bench seat I have ever seen in a 110/111 or later MB.)  I was 
not impressed with either when I got the car, but the DB-186 was nice 
because it always looked good, and when you wash it, it looked even 
better.  Not like black (040) where it looks dirty before it is even 
dried off after washing.  I liked the red interior also after a while.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Hey, just remember that when you are in really deep sh*t, we are the 
ones you call for help.
Even if you dispatched your poor old mother, we are the ones who will 
stand with you in court and try to point out all of your good qualities 
to the Judge.


RB

On 20/05/2015 1:42 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

The only way I know is to get a law degree and pass the bar, or didn't you
know that neither snakes nor sharks will ever bite a lawyer?  Professional
courtesy...

With apologies to Randy, Donald, and the rest...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

How do you avoid snakebite in DC?  Lotsa snakes on the loose there. 535

come to mind, but when you add in the lobbyists, lawyers and other
slithering creatures, there are a whole bunch!

Maybe they don't bite their own kind...



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[MBZ] Are my emails going through?

[Darren Marshall via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Silver green.

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Sorry, forgot link:  http://www.190slgroup.com/tech/colors/db218.JPG 



> On May 20, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes  
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> 
> Maybe it’s this color?
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> Srt of a cross between avocado and pistachio.  Pleasant, though I prefer a
>> greener green...
>> 
>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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>> 
>>> 
>>> http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1979_Mercedes_280CE_Coupe_For_Sale_resize.jpg
>>> 
>>> This is sn online photo pf a 123 coupe. Same color ss my 79 240D.
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Re: [MBZ] Silver green.

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Maybe it’s this color?


> On May 20, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Srt of a cross between avocado and pistachio.  Pleasant, though I prefer a
> greener green...
> 
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> 
>> 
>> http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1979_Mercedes_280CE_Coupe_For_Sale_resize.jpg
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Re: [MBZ] Silver green.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Srt of a cross between avocado and pistachio.  Pleasant, though I prefer a
greener green...

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[MBZ] Silver green.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1979_Mercedes_280CE_Coupe_For_Sale_resize.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] Paint colors

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Around here, I saw a lot of cream colored 110/111.  The majority of 
110/111 interiors I saw were red, but had bucket seats, not a bench. 
Second place interior was tan.



That was a popular color combo for the finnie sedans (heckflosse).

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 My first MB was DB-186 Cement Gray.  (with bright red interior, and the
 only bench seat I have ever seen in a 110/111 or later MB.)  I was not
 impressed with either when I got the car, but the DB-186 was nice because
 it always looked good, and when you wash it, it looked even better.  Not
 like black (040) where it looks dirty before it is even dried off after
 washing.  I liked the red interior also after a while.


 > I called it battleship gray.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Bzzzt!  Wrong.  You are not immune as a geologist.  You are immune as 
a goobermnt employee.  As Max said, Professional Courtesy




Geologists are immune too.

In all my field work I never once was threatened by a snake, although I did
see a good sized copperhead slithering along the highway near Manassas, VA
a couple weeks ago as I was driving back to MD.

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 The only way I know is to get a law degree and pass the bar, or didn't you
 know that neither snakes nor sharks will ever bite a lawyer?  Professional
 courtesy...

 With apologies to Randy, Donald, and the rest...

 -
 Max
 Charleston SC

 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 How do you avoid snakebite in DC?  Lotsa snakes on the loose there. 535
 > come to mind, but when you add in the lobbyists, lawyers and other
 > slithering creatures, there are a whole bunch!
 >
 > Maybe they don't bite their own kind...
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Darren Marshall via Mercedes]

Looks like Caledonia on my monitor but maybe that wasn't a color for this year. 
Also looks just like Norma's Benz on Bates Motel...

Darren Marshall, Co-Founder

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> On May 20, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> On the color charts for that year these two seem to be the closest.  Unless
> the PO repainted it to a non-standard color...
> 
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I don't think so.
>> My 79 240D was silver green and it was not  this yellowish green. I forget
>> what this is called.
>> On May 20, 2015 1:47 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think I found it:  DB 861  Silver green metallic.  Or perhaps DB 862?
>>> 
>>> What do the others think?
>>> 
>>> http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/select-color.cgi
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 
> I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.
 
 The Italians call it Celeste:
 http://velospace.org/node/42550
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

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Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Hey, this is YOUR Congress.  You should show pride, not snide.


http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/alan-grayson-called-cops-on-wife-for-buying-groceries-with-his-credit-card-118112.html

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2015/05/18/new-jersey-dem-wants-to-restrict-online-ammo-sales-n2000534

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Hmm, I think this is still the special interest's congress.  Tea Party did
help in the past two election cycles, but that anger seems to have faded.

Gerry-meandered congressional districts have pretty much ensured
hyper-partisan gridlock, which normally would be fantastic but...  I'll
stop before I wonder off into pointless rehashes...

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> Hey, this is YOUR Congress.  You should show pride, not snide.
>
> ;)
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

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Hey, this is YOUR Congress.  You should show pride, not snide.

;)

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
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> The only way I know is to get a law degree and pass the bar, or didn't you
> know that neither snakes nor sharks will ever bite a lawyer?  Professional
> courtesy...
>
> With apologies to Randy, Donald, and the rest...
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> Personally, I've never known a lawyer that could pass a bar.. ;))
>
> D C would be safer if there really were vipers in abundance. Perhaps it
> would refocus some of the other reptiles who hold office there.
>
> Grant... [Who holds Congress in very low regard and actually deals with
> rattlesnakes on a regular basis]
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Re: [MBZ] Paint colors

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That was a popular color combo for the finnie sedans (heckflosse).

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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> My first MB was DB-186 Cement Gray.  (with bright red interior, and the
> only bench seat I have ever seen in a 110/111 or later MB.)  I was not
> impressed with either when I got the car, but the DB-186 was nice because
> it always looked good, and when you wash it, it looked even better.  Not
> like black (040) where it looks dirty before it is even dried off after
> washing.  I liked the red interior also after a while.
>
> I called it battleship gray.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

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The only way I know is to get a law degree and pass the bar, or didn't you
know that neither snakes nor sharks will ever bite a lawyer?  Professional
courtesy...

With apologies to Randy, Donald, and the rest...

-
Max
Charleston SC

Personally, I've never known a lawyer that could pass a bar.. ;))

D C would be safer if there really were vipers in abundance. Perhaps it
would refocus some of the other reptiles who hold office there.

Grant... [Who holds Congress in very low regard and actually deals with
rattlesnakes on a regular basis]
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[MBZ] Paint colors

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

My first MB was DB-186 Cement Gray.  (with bright red interior, and 
the only bench seat I have ever seen in a 110/111 or later MB.)  I 
was not impressed with either when I got the car, but the DB-186 was 
nice because it always looked good, and when you wash it, it looked 
even better.  Not like black (040) where it looks dirty before it is 
even dried off after washing.  I liked the red interior also after a 
while.


I called it battleship gray.

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

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Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

The E320 I bought from Kleb was either spruce green or emerald green 
metallic (249/269).  I liked it better than any other green.  It was a 
nice looking car.


It was not as dark as Midnight Blue metallic, but getting close.


My 1997 S420 in 269U is as dark as my 1999 E320 in Midnight Blue.

I saw a 200x E320 advertised as Aspen Green that's probably the color of yours.
Had dark tan interior, maybe saddle? That's my favorite color combo, but I have 
grown to like parchment over midnight blue too. I just like a richer color 
leather on a green car than the usual pale parchment/mushroom/etc. (my S420 is 
mushroom)


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

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Geologists are immune too.

In all my field work I never once was threatened by a snake, although I did
see a good sized copperhead slithering along the highway near Manassas, VA
a couple weeks ago as I was driving back to MD.

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> The only way I know is to get a law degree and pass the bar, or didn't you
> know that neither snakes nor sharks will ever bite a lawyer?  Professional
> courtesy...
>
> With apologies to Randy, Donald, and the rest...
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> How do you avoid snakebite in DC?  Lotsa snakes on the loose there. 535
> > come to mind, but when you add in the lobbyists, lawyers and other
> > slithering creatures, there are a whole bunch!
> >
> > Maybe they don't bite their own kind...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

The only way I know is to get a law degree and pass the bar, or didn't you
know that neither snakes nor sharks will ever bite a lawyer?  Professional
courtesy...

With apologies to Randy, Donald, and the rest...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

How do you avoid snakebite in DC?  Lotsa snakes on the loose there. 535
> come to mind, but when you add in the lobbyists, lawyers and other
> slithering creatures, there are a whole bunch!
>
> Maybe they don't bite their own kind...
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice shape, but yeah I noticed the same issue under the hood, plus the
engine is rather dirty - need's Martha work.

Too bad it is missing a pedal...

If one were in the market, this would be toward the end of "the best
example you can afford".

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.
>
> The only obvious issue is the scraped paint above the front fender, on
> either side of the aux. fan, seen with the hood open.  WTF?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

A contractor found out the hard way his Rocky "Silent Hunter" Rubber Snake
Boot couldn't protect him from a snake's fangs.

Rocky Brands Inc. recalled about 1,800 pairs of the 16-inch-tall,
camouflage-patterned hunting boots after a snake bit through the rubber
protecting the contractor's feet.

The contractor reportedly survived the bite. The Consumer Product Safety
Commission did not release when or where the incident occurred or the type
of snake involved.

Customers can ask for a refund or a replacement pair of more snake-proof
boots from the Ohio-based company.

"If he had died, we would have handled the recall differently," a spokesman
said (Maggie Fox,NBC News
,
May 19). *-- DTB*
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How do you avoid snakebite in DC?  Lotsa snakes on the loose there. 
535 come to mind, but when you add in the lobbyists, lawyers and 
other slithering creatures, there are a whole bunch!


Maybe they don't bite their own kind...

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Mitch Sez:

What I really like is the color of the green 
Porch visible in some of the pics. That's my 
idea of a green car, although I must say 269U 
(emerald green in USA, turmalingrün in der 
homeland) is starting to grow on me.


The E320 I bought from Kleb was either spruce 
green or emerald green metallic (249/269).  I 
liked it better than any other green.  It was a 
nice looking car.


It was not as dark as Midnight Blue metallic, but getting close.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mount and Balance tars Go for M

[WILTON via Mercedes]

How far "deep south?"  Key West?  Mobile?  Nawhlens?  Hotlanta?  Waycross? 
Vicksburg?


Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Mount and Balance tars Go for M


This relates to Mitch's post about the high cost of mounting and balancing 
tires.  #1 Daughter just did a check of tar shops close to her.  Below are 
the results of her survey for the cost of mouning and balancing 4 tars she 
would bring in.  (bought from Kleb's Discount tar Direct)



Performance was $79, Delta was $100, Isaac was $88, and Tire Kingdom was 
$16.99/tire for a total of $68, so it's just a bit cheaper than Firestone, 
but I think the convenience is worth the extra $3-5 there, so I guess I'm 
going to take it back to Firestone at $80. The highest was Andy X at 
$168




These are dealers in the deep south where things are often less expensive.

What counts in the end is the total cost of tars, shipping, taxes, and 
mounting/balancing/stems/roadhazard.  That is the total cost on the car 
and out the door.


Around $20/tar seems to be common/average.

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[MBZ] OT: Having a very bad day leads to a product recall

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A contractor found out the hard way his Rocky "Silent Hunter" Rubber Snake
Boot couldn't protect him from a snake's fangs.

Rocky Brands Inc. recalled about 1,800 pairs of the 16-inch-tall,
camouflage-patterned hunting boots after a snake bit through the rubber
protecting the contractor's feet.

The contractor reportedly survived the bite. The Consumer Product Safety
Commission did not release when or where the incident occurred or the type
of snake involved.

Customers can ask for a refund or a replacement pair of more snake-proof
boots from the Ohio-based company.

"If he had died, we would have handled the recall differently," a spokesman
said (Maggie Fox,NBC News
,
May 19). *-- DTB*
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[MBZ] Way OT and mind blowing revelation about panda digestion!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A new study of panda waste brings bad news for the endangered species:
Their stomach microbes don't match their diet.

Though pandas have been eating bamboo for at least 7 million years, with
the plant being the bear's sole source of food for the past 2 million
years, it turns out the microbes in their guts are meant to digest meat.

The findings of the genetic analysis of 121 samples of panda feces
published in the journal*mBio* "may put [pandas] at high risk of
extinction," the authors wrote.

Scientists have long been wondering about pandas' evolution because their
stomachs are not as long as other herbivores. Longer guts allow animals
more time to break down tough plant parts.

The researchers hypothesized that pandas would have developed special
bamboo-optimized microbes to help them break down plants faster, but, as
their study shows, that is not the case.

Instead, the study found, pandas are living a "highly fragile lifestyle" by
relying so much on bamboo (Karen Kaplan, *Los Angeles Times*
,
May 19). *-- AW*
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

On the color charts for that year these two seem to be the closest.  Unless
the PO repainted it to a non-standard color...

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> I don't think so.
> My 79 240D was silver green and it was not  this yellowish green. I forget
> what this is called.
> On May 20, 2015 1:47 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I think I found it:  DB 861  Silver green metallic.  Or perhaps DB 862?
> >
> > What do the others think?
> >
> > http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/select-color.cgi
> >
> > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.
> > >>
> > >
> > > The Italians call it Celeste:
> > > http://velospace.org/node/42550
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I think I found it:  DB 861  Silver green metallic.  Or perhaps DB 862?


I always thought Silbergrün was silver with a greenish tint to it.

What I really like is the color of the green Porch visible in some of the pics. 
That's my idea of a green car, although I must say 269U (emerald green in USA, 
turmalingrün in der homeland) is starting to grow on me.


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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I don't think so.
My 79 240D was silver green and it was not  this yellowish green. I forget
what this is called.
On May 20, 2015 1:47 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think I found it:  DB 861  Silver green metallic.  Or perhaps DB 862?
>
> What do the others think?
>
> http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/select-color.cgi
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.
> >>
> >
> > The Italians call it Celeste:
> > http://velospace.org/node/42550
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I think I found it:  DB 861  Silver green metallic.  Or perhaps DB 862?

What do the others think?

http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/select-color.cgi

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.
>>
>
> The Italians call it Celeste:
> http://velospace.org/node/42550
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[MBZ] Fwd: Mount and Balance tars Go for M

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

This relates to Mitch's post about the high cost of mounting and 
balancing tires.  #1 Daughter just did a check of tar shops close to 
her.  Below are the results of her survey for the cost of mouning and 
balancing 4 tars she would bring in.  (bought from Kleb's Discount 
tar Direct)



Performance was $79, Delta was $100, Isaac was $88, and Tire Kingdom 
was $16.99/tire for a total of $68, so it's just a bit cheaper than 
Firestone, but I think the convenience is worth the extra $3-5 
there, so I guess I'm going to take it back to Firestone at $80. 
The highest was Andy X at $168




These are dealers in the deep south where things are often less expensive.

What counts in the end is the total cost of tars, shipping, taxes, 
and mounting/balancing/stems/roadhazard.  That is the total cost on 
the car and out the door.


Around $20/tar seems to be common/average.

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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.


The Italians call it Celeste:
http://velospace.org/node/42550

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[MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.

The only obvious issue is the scraped paint above the front fender, on
either side of the aux. fan, seen with the hood open.  WTF?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SEL/301636619038?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20131003150253%26meid%3Dba32d8628480461b83809f106902a5fe%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D371326989381
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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yeah, invite/draw/incite attacks by other drivers.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Cc: "Meade Dillon" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes


Inflammatory is better!  Might get the pig or some other farm animal 
welded

to roof for duration of the race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hours_of_LeMons

Look under penalties.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:04 AM, WILTON via Mercedes 

wrote:



The black cross, maybe, but not a swastika - possibly, inflammatory.

Wilton



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[MBZ] 124 ride height followup rear camber

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Answers to Max's question below.

After 2 months on the modified spring spacer to adjust the rear 
camber on the 124, 300D:


 5/20/15  Ride Height

15 3/4 to 16"

Original height when installed: 17"   3/20/15
Ride height after a spirited gymkahna  through the fancy house 
subdivision:  16"


So the initial drive seated things pretty well.

I believe the average height for a new/good suspension is around 16." 
So it looks like I guesstimated pretty well.


I am pleased.  Next step is to get it in for alignment in the next few weeks.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 ride height followup

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

What is the delta?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> After 2 months on the modified spring spacer to adjust the rear camber on
> the 124, 300D:
>
>  5/20/15  Ride Height
>
> 15 3/4 to 16"
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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Inflammatory is better!  Might get the pig or some other farm animal welded
to roof for duration of the race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hours_of_LeMons

Look under penalties.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:04 AM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:

> The black cross, maybe, but not a swastika - possibly, inflammatory.
>
> Wilton
>
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[MBZ] 124 ride height followup

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

After 2 months on the modified spring spacer to adjust the rear 
camber on the 124, 300D:


 5/20/15  Ride Height

15 3/4 to 16"

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 350 SDL, white, asking $5500 for Dan or Wilton

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That is one of my all time favorite movie scenes.  WIlliam H Macy is the
greatest actor alive, in this or any other galaxy.

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> ‎Andrew wrote:
>
> >Could have bought it for less but I >didn't know you were supposed
> >to negotiate.  Salesman was so >stunned he volunteered to throw >in the
> >undercoating for FREE.
>
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> http://youtu.be/E5gwc4UizUc
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[MBZ] W123 Lower alternator bolt Size?

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Gang,
I was hoping someone will have the diameter and length of the 
Subject bolt please ?  I'm embarrassed tp say it fell out ;-)


Thx (now I'll check the archives)

LarryT
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91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] Poorly designed / engineered roof holes

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

There is a special thin rtv just for windshields, use that...


Curt

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From:"OK Don via Mercedes" 
Date:Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:38 AM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] Poorly designed / engineered roof holes

I tried RTV on the 450SLC, didn't work. That's why I suggested MIG/TIG.


On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 6:42 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I am thinking some RTV on the  300D.  The windscreens seals are shot and
> slobber water all over the trunk and footwells.  I do not need wet coming
> in on my head while on the track.
>
> The racing seat arrived.  Now I have to figure out how to accommodate
> drivers between 5'3" and 6'3"
>
> clay
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

[WILTON via Mercedes]

The black cross, maybe, but not a swastika - possibly, inflammatory.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes


Add a Luftwaffe symbol on each side, paint big gaping sharks toothed mouth 
on front fenders?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 20, 2015 9:18:59 AM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Yes.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "clay via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "clay" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes



I was thinking that too.  But it may be too much of a deviation from

the

gleaming silver on the rest of the  car.

Is the black matte an aviation solution?  I would be happy to have a
really good technical reason to support that solution instead of

going

matte grey

clay

On May 18, 2015, at 5:31 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:


Flat black on hood.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "clay via Mercedes"

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "clay" 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes



Dang, that is nasty.

I have been playing with the paint for the 300D.   After pulling

the

antenna and the body side moldings, I have a number of holes that

need

attention.  Bondo is doing the job for now.  Silver paint on the

car was

sort of alligatored and some patches looked like house paint of a
serious skin condition/rash/melanoma.  Took 80 grit to the whole

body

and then used the DA sander with 120 grit to even it out.  Rattle

can

rust stop, a dark primer and some rattle can metallic grey on top.
Besides getting a bit of sun reddening, the blinding gleam from the



pseudo chrome paint hurt my eyes.  I might need to do something

else on

the hood to keep my drivers from going blind.

clay



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[MBZ] My eyes!!!!

[WILTON via Mercedes]

You could even attach a yaw string at the hood ornament point with a thin
white line down the centerline of the hood for authenticity.

Wilton


- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes



Yes.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "clay via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "clay" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes


I was thinking that too.  But it may be too much of a deviation from the 
gleaming silver on the rest of the  car.


Is the black matte an aviation solution?  I would be happy to have a 
really good technical reason to support that solution instead of going 
matte grey


clay

On May 18, 2015, at 5:31 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:


Flat black on hood.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "clay via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "clay" 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes



Dang, that is nasty.

I have been playing with the paint for the 300D.   After pulling the 
antenna and the body side moldings, I have a number of holes that need 
attention.  Bondo is doing the job for now.  Silver paint on the car 
was sort of alligatored and some patches looked like house paint of a 
serious skin condition/rash/melanoma.  Took 80 grit to the whole body 
and then used the DA sander with 120 grit to even it out.  Rattle can 
rust stop, a dark primer and some rattle can metallic grey on top. 
Besides getting a bit of sun reddening, the blinding gleam from the 
pseudo chrome paint hurt my eyes.  I might need to do something else 
on the hood to keep my drivers from going blind.


clay



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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Add a Luftwaffe symbol on each side, paint big gaping sharks toothed mouth on 
front fenders?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 20, 2015 9:18:59 AM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Yes.
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "clay via Mercedes" 
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>Cc: "clay" 
>Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 1:33 AM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes
>
>
>>I was thinking that too.  But it may be too much of a deviation from
>the 
>>gleaming silver on the rest of the  car.
>>
>> Is the black matte an aviation solution?  I would be happy to have a 
>> really good technical reason to support that solution instead of
>going 
>> matte grey
>>
>> clay
>>
>> On May 18, 2015, at 5:31 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Flat black on hood.
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "clay via Mercedes" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Cc: "clay" 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 8:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes
>>>
>>>
 Dang, that is nasty.

 I have been playing with the paint for the 300D.   After pulling
>the 
 antenna and the body side moldings, I have a number of holes that
>need 
 attention.  Bondo is doing the job for now.  Silver paint on the
>car was 
 sort of alligatored and some patches looked like house paint of a 
 serious skin condition/rash/melanoma.  Took 80 grit to the whole
>body 
 and then used the DA sander with 120 grit to even it out.  Rattle
>can 
 rust stop, a dark primer and some rattle can metallic grey on top. 
 Besides getting a bit of sun reddening, the blinding gleam from the
>
 pseudo chrome paint hurt my eyes.  I might need to do something
>else on 
 the hood to keep my drivers from going blind.

 clay



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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yes.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "clay via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "clay" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes


I was thinking that too.  But it may be too much of a deviation from the 
gleaming silver on the rest of the  car.


Is the black matte an aviation solution?  I would be happy to have a 
really good technical reason to support that solution instead of going 
matte grey


clay

On May 18, 2015, at 5:31 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:


Flat black on hood.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "clay via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "clay" 
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] My eyes



Dang, that is nasty.

I have been playing with the paint for the 300D.   After pulling the 
antenna and the body side moldings, I have a number of holes that need 
attention.  Bondo is doing the job for now.  Silver paint on the car was 
sort of alligatored and some patches looked like house paint of a 
serious skin condition/rash/melanoma.  Took 80 grit to the whole body 
and then used the DA sander with 120 grit to even it out.  Rattle can 
rust stop, a dark primer and some rattle can metallic grey on top. 
Besides getting a bit of sun reddening, the blinding gleam from the 
pseudo chrome paint hurt my eyes.  I might need to do something else on 
the hood to keep my drivers from going blind.


clay



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Re: [MBZ] Cursed 300D

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That puzzles me, that it did work before, poorly, but now with one change 
(bushings) it doesn't work.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 20, 2015 1:41:07 AM EDT, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>In my mind's eye, I see the bands thing, but do not know enough about
>how the transmission works for that to take place.  The PO spent a few
>hundred $$ last summer dealing with a problem shift issue.  Maybe the
>dork at the shop adjusted things to even out the shift, but did not
>install the shift rod bushings, and now it is all out of whack.  
>
>Prior to my installing the bushings, there was no engagement in D or S,
>but it would engage in L and R.  Not well, but it would spin up and
>move with no stalling.  A solution will require opening the thing up
>either way
>
>clay
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] dropped again?

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

fayle.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 03:22:34 -0400
> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] dropped again?
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> is the list working?
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Re: [MBZ] dropped again?

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Rick,

Your account is still subbed and set for digest.

Dan

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[MBZ] Moving

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

In addition to cutting up and clearing this big tree that blew down which 
brought the move to a stand still, aside from a few items still in the house, 
and the house needing a complete cleaning, some paint, new carpet etc, I still 
have a garage full of parts and a back yard with a few more cars and tons of 
body parts to move out. Who's idea was it to move again?

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[MBZ] dropped again?

[Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes]

is the list working?

i don't seem to be getting anything (in digest)
thanks,

xx rick
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