[MBZ] Home Audio Supplies

2015-12-20 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes

My Daug. and Hubby bought a new Surround Sound system for their house.
Could any of the austere group recommend a web site where we can 
purchase wiring and connecters

for their system.

Russ W.


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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Where do you think Cruz gets his $$millions from?  The Little People?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The Democrats represent the very poor; and the Republicans represent the
>> very rich; but who represents those of us who work hard, live
>> conservatively, and save our money; i.e. the middle class?
>> Gerry
>>
>
>
> BZZT!   Demo-ists (demaoists) say they represent the poor, but the donors
> are city rich, oil/powerrich and hollyweirdrich.  They represent the rich
> and want to use the rich money to buy indigent wetback voters to stay in
> power because they know nobody wants their platform.  Their other objective
> is to keep as many sheeple as possible dumb, mis-educated,  and more
> interested it sports, cardassians, or startrek/starwars/drwho/drphil so
> they will keep the Demaoists in power.
>
> The Democrat party died with Kennedy.
>
> The Rsocialists are out to get rid of the loyal supporters, unless they
> are eastern rich or oil/powerrich.
>
> The middle class keeps insisting the Rsocialist represent them.
> Rsocialists want nothing to do with normal people.
>
> The answer to your question of who represents those of us who work hard,
> live conservatively, and save our money; i.e. the middle class? is:
>
> NOBODY
>
> Unless WE elect a constituationalist, or make the constitution party real.
>
> Both R and D are scared shi**less about Trump, Cruz, Carson and probably
> Carly.  A vote for the ones that scare the established power structure
> Sh***less are the ones to support!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
BHO must love the poor; he made so many of them.

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> 
> 
> The Democrats represent the very poor; and the Republicans represent the
> very rich; but who represents those of us who work hard, live
> conservatively, and save our money; i.e. the middle class?
> Gerry
> 
> > I think Cruz probably has the best shot. While Rubio also has the
> smarts and the speaking skills, I think his participation with the Gang
> of 8 will ultimately not sit well with the conservatives. HRC's record is
> one of serial failure. She would be a disaster as POTUS. I loved how
> Sanders took a question about ISIS and in essence said "Let's talk about
> income inequality."
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:42 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB
> > parts
> >
> > With all those negatives, anyone the GOP nominates will CRUISE to a
> > LANDSLIDE victory next November.  That is, assuming she isn't behind
> > bars or that Bernie or Marty doesn't win a brokered convention.
> >
> > Since you guys are such AMAZING prognosticators of Democratic defeat,
> > how about predicting who will win the GOP slugfest?
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > All indications suggest that the less people hear of her the better
> > > she remains.  When they start hearing from her, the numbers go down.
> > > Put the theater on a Sat night when no one is watching and it does
> > > the minimum of damage to Hillary!.
> > >
> > > Plus I saw that the Hilz campaign is paying the DNC, that's why they
> > > are trying to shut the Bern out.  The others must not know yet that
> > > it is Her Turn.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > > On 12/20/15 2:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> By all accounts she did just fine.  Marty may be moving up in the
> polls.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> She had to negotiate more time with her parole officer?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Where did Hillary! disappear to last night?
> > 
> >  You do know the reason why the "debate" was scheduled for a
> >  Saturday evening before Christmas, right?
> > 
> >  --R
> > 
> >  On 12/20/15 1:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > 
> >  Curly strikes again.
> > >
> > > When Hillary (or Bernie, or Marty) takes over you better head
> > > north, WAY north.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > What does she do up in Canada?
> > >
> > >> She sues US goobermnt employees who play racketball.
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The Democrats represent the very poor; and the Republicans represent 
the very rich; but who represents those of us who work hard, live 
conservatively, and save our money; i.e. the middle class?

Gerry



BZZT!   Demo-ists (demaoists) say they represent the poor, but the 
donors are city rich, oil/powerrich and hollyweirdrich.  They 
represent the rich and want to use the rich money to buy indigent 
wetback voters to stay in power because they know nobody wants their 
platform.  Their other objective is to keep as many sheeple as 
possible dumb, mis-educated,  and more interested it sports, 
cardassians, or startrek/starwars/drwho/drphil so they will keep the 
Demaoists in power.


The Democrat party died with Kennedy.

The Rsocialists are out to get rid of the loyal supporters, unless 
they are eastern rich or oil/powerrich.


The middle class keeps insisting the Rsocialist represent them. 
Rsocialists want nothing to do with normal people.


The answer to your question of who represents those of us who work 
hard, live conservatively, and save our money; i.e. the middle class? 
is:


NOBODY

Unless WE elect a constituationalist, or make the constitution party real.

Both R and D are scared shi**less about Trump, Cruz, Carson and 
probably Carly.  A vote for the ones that scare the established power 
structure Sh***less are the ones to support!

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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I don't see that either party represents either the rich or the poor, but
do a grand job of feathering their own nests. Seems to me, we no longer
have representatives in anything but name only.

Good cause is shown that they are all "owned" by some lobby group or
criminal gang under the color of some fake cause or name.

If you had something in your home that stunk as bad as congress, you would
try to flush it, or call the HAZMAT people...

Just saying..

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 8:24 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> The Democrats represent the very poor; and the Republicans represent the
> very rich; but who represents those of us who work hard, live
> conservatively, and save our money; i.e. the middle class?
> Gerry
>
> > I think Cruz probably has the best shot. While Rubio also has the smarts
> and the speaking skills, I think his participation with the Gang of 8 will
> ultimately not sit well with the conservatives. HRC's record is one of
> serial failure. She would be a disaster as POTUS. I loved how Sanders took
> a question about ISIS and in essence said "Let's talk about income
> inequality."
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew
> > Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:42 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts
> >
> > With all those negatives, anyone the GOP nominates will CRUISE to a
> > LANDSLIDE victory next November.  That is, assuming she isn't behind bars
> > or that Bernie or Marty doesn't win a brokered convention.
> >
> > Since you guys are such AMAZING prognosticators of Democratic defeat, how
> > about predicting who will win the GOP slugfest?
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > All indications suggest that the less people hear of her the better she
> > > remains.  When they start hearing from her, the numbers go down.  Put
> the
> > > theater on a Sat night when no one is watching and it does the minimum
> of
> > > damage to Hillary!.
> > >
> > > Plus I saw that the Hilz campaign is paying the DNC, that's why they
> are
> > > trying to shut the Bern out.  The others must not know yet that it is
> Her
> > > Turn.
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > > On 12/20/15 2:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> By all accounts she did just fine.  Marty may be moving up in the
> polls.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> She had to negotiate more time with her parole officer?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Where did Hillary! disappear to last night?
> > 
> >  You do know the reason why the "debate" was scheduled for a Saturday
> >  evening before Christmas, right?
> > 
> >  --R
> > 
> >  On 12/20/15 1:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > 
> >  Curly strikes again.
> > >
> > > When Hillary (or Bernie, or Marty) takes over you better head
> north,
> > > WAY
> > > north.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > What does she do up in Canada?
> > >
> > >> She sues US goobermnt employees who play racketball.
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.

2015-12-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
There was "Harrys New Life Hotel" in Thailand... You check in with your
money, your bags, and your life.. you check out when any two are gone..



On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 8:00 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Are there any affordable American spas where one can spend a week getting
> rejunenated?
> There are plenty of "day spas", at least around here, but I don't recall
> seeing longer term spas advertised anywhere.
>
> (Caution! Long, and possibly boring tale, follows:)
>
> A hundred years ago there were many multi-day spas. French Lick Springs,
> Indiana was so popular, the Southern Railway built a spur line to it just
> to haul the spa customers back and forth to the main line. Father worked on
> that short haul line back then.
> The springs company bottled its mineral water, Pluto, that was a pretty
> strong laxative. Father drank a half bottle every month until the day he
> died at 94.
>
> In college, we lived in an old army building that had been divided into
> two apartments.
> The newly married student next door was an excitable architectural student
> who became asthmatic when he was upset about something. The day before a
> major biology test, he knocked on the adjoining door and ask if I had any
> asthma medicine.
> I gave him a bottle of the "Biloxi Prescription", a popular asthma
> medicine, and a bottle of Pluto Water since I didn't have any saline
> laxative that was supposed to be taken with the prescription. I told him to
> drink only half the bottle of Pluto water.
>
> A half hour later there was a tremendous banging on the adjoining door.
> He burst in and yelled, "Gerry! Are you trying to kill me? Whoops!, and he
> ran back in his apartment.
> Five minutes later he was back with more yelling, and then another Whoops!
> and he was gone again.
> The third time he stayed long enough to tell me that he had drunk the
> "whole" bottle of Pluto water.
> Nonetheless, it relieved his asthma and he passed the test.
> He finally flunked architecture, switched to education and became a very
> good primary school teacher.
> Gerry
>
> > Wilton.
> > Thanks for the kudo. I really need a week in a spa.
> > Fred.
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

The Democrats represent the very poor; and the Republicans represent the very 
rich; but who represents those of us who work hard, live conservatively, and 
save our money; i.e. the middle class?
Gerry

> I think Cruz probably has the best shot. While Rubio also has the smarts and 
> the speaking skills, I think his participation with the Gang of 8 will 
> ultimately not sit well with the conservatives. HRC's record is one of serial 
> failure. She would be a disaster as POTUS. I loved how Sanders took a 
> question about ISIS and in essence said "Let's talk about income inequality."
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:42 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts
> 
> With all those negatives, anyone the GOP nominates will CRUISE to a
> LANDSLIDE victory next November.  That is, assuming she isn't behind bars
> or that Bernie or Marty doesn't win a brokered convention.
> 
> Since you guys are such AMAZING prognosticators of Democratic defeat, how
> about predicting who will win the GOP slugfest?
> 
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > All indications suggest that the less people hear of her the better she
> > remains.  When they start hearing from her, the numbers go down.  Put the
> > theater on a Sat night when no one is watching and it does the minimum of
> > damage to Hillary!.
> >
> > Plus I saw that the Hilz campaign is paying the DNC, that's why they are
> > trying to shut the Bern out.  The others must not know yet that it is Her
> > Turn.
> >
> > --R
> >
> > On 12/20/15 2:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> By all accounts she did just fine.  Marty may be moving up in the polls.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> She had to negotiate more time with her parole officer?
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Where did Hillary! disappear to last night?
> 
>  You do know the reason why the "debate" was scheduled for a Saturday
>  evening before Christmas, right?
> 
>  --R
> 
>  On 12/20/15 1:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>  Curly strikes again.
> >
> > When Hillary (or Bernie, or Marty) takes over you better head north,
> > WAY
> > north.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > What does she do up in Canada?
> >
> >> She sues US goobermnt employees who play racketball.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.

2015-12-20 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Are there any affordable American spas where one can spend a week getting 
rejunenated?
There are plenty of "day spas", at least around here, but I don't recall seeing 
longer term spas advertised anywhere.

(Caution! Long, and possibly boring tale, follows:)
 
A hundred years ago there were many multi-day spas. French Lick Springs, 
Indiana was so popular, the Southern Railway built a spur line to it just to 
haul the spa customers back and forth to the main line. Father worked on that 
short haul line back then. 
The springs company bottled its mineral water, Pluto, that was a pretty strong 
laxative. Father drank a half bottle every month until the day he died at 94.

In college, we lived in an old army building that had been divided into two 
apartments. 
The newly married student next door was an excitable architectural student who 
became asthmatic when he was upset about something. The day before a major 
biology test, he knocked on the adjoining door and ask if I had any asthma 
medicine.
I gave him a bottle of the "Biloxi Prescription", a popular asthma medicine, 
and a bottle of Pluto Water since I didn't have any saline laxative that was 
supposed to be taken with the prescription. I told him to drink only half the 
bottle of Pluto water.

A half hour later there was a tremendous banging on the adjoining door.
He burst in and yelled, "Gerry! Are you trying to kill me? Whoops!, and he ran 
back in his apartment.
Five minutes later he was back with more yelling, and then another Whoops! and 
he was gone again.
The third time he stayed long enough to tell me that he had drunk the "whole" 
bottle of Pluto water.
Nonetheless, it relieved his asthma and he passed the test.
He finally flunked architecture, switched to education and became a very good 
primary school teacher.
Gerry

> Wilton.
> Thanks for the kudo. I really need a week in a spa.
> Fred.

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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
With more than a year to swearing in the next president [unless BHO treason
trial starts early] there are many opportunities to failure of ALL the
hopefuls.

However, the Presidential marathon has begun, there is talent in the race,
some with staying power.

Hillary doesn't have the numbers to make it.. and will likely skate on
criminal charges as long as BHO is president.. Bernie is unlikely, and who
is the other guy?

Republican field of over crowded and will be boned down soon. Jeb, I
predict, will jump to Democrat, before it's over. Trump/Cruze are now the
likely ticket. That may change, but the momentum and political traction
becomes more established each day, for now.

The tides of politics can change quickly, voters are a fickle lot. However,
the tone of politics for this election has been changed forever, mostly by
Trump setting a completely different level of focus.. He terrifies some,
energizes others.. at this point.. the energize side is gaining faster than
the terrify side.

Nothing is cast in stone well, except death and taxes.. and we all have
had to much of both.. regardless of political persuasion.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On December 20, 2015 at 5:42 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Since you guys are such AMAZING prognosticators of Democratic defeat, how
> > about predicting who will win the GOP slugfest?
>
> I don't know, but his name wasn't Guiliani in 2008 and it's not Bush in
> 2016.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT laptop HD

2015-12-20 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Rich.
PATA or SATA?
40GB or 80GB SATA available, your choice.
Fred


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Subject: [MBZ] OT laptop HD

I bought this $40 winXP laptop to put with my little laser engraver and
the HD on the thing seems to have crapped out.  Anybody have a disused
drive, doesn't have to be very big?  I think the one in there is maybe 40GB.

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300E

2015-12-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


> On December 20, 2015 at 8:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Guy is on crack.

I was thinking "where are the jack point covers"?
I have all 20 of them on my W201/W124/W140/S210 cars, and one of the 201s was
bought wrecked.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 300E

2015-12-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Guy is on crack.

On 12/20/2015 7:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Looks like it’s been well maintained.  A really good price (scroll down to the 
bottom, I believe he’s asking $3500 for it now.)

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/366474-1991-300e-126k-single-family-owned.html

Dan
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[MBZ] Nice 300E

2015-12-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looks like it’s been well maintained.  A really good price (scroll down to the 
bottom, I believe he’s asking $3500 for it now.)

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/366474-1991-300e-126k-single-family-owned.html

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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I think Cruz probably has the best shot. While Rubio also has the smarts and
the speaking skills, I think his participation with the Gang of 8 will
ultimately not sit well with the conservatives. HRC's record is one of
serial failure. She would be a disaster as POTUS. I loved how Sanders took a
question about ISIS and in essence said "Let's talk about income
inequality."

Greg

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With all those negatives, anyone the GOP nominates will CRUISE to a
LANDSLIDE victory next November.  That is, assuming she isn't behind bars
or that Bernie or Marty doesn't win a brokered convention.

Since you guys are such AMAZING prognosticators of Democratic defeat, how
about predicting who will win the GOP slugfest?

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> All indications suggest that the less people hear of her the better she
> remains.  When they start hearing from her, the numbers go down.  Put the
> theater on a Sat night when no one is watching and it does the minimum of
> damage to Hillary!.
>
> Plus I saw that the Hilz campaign is paying the DNC, that's why they are
> trying to shut the Bern out.  The others must not know yet that it is Her
> Turn.
>
> --R
>
> On 12/20/15 2:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> By all accounts she did just fine.  Marty may be moving up in the polls.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> She had to negotiate more time with her parole officer?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Where did Hillary! disappear to last night?

 You do know the reason why the "debate" was scheduled for a Saturday
 evening before Christmas, right?

 --R

 On 12/20/15 1:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 Curly strikes again.
>
> When Hillary (or Bernie, or Marty) takes over you better head north,
> WAY
> north.
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> What does she do up in Canada?
>
>> She sues US goobermnt employees who play racketball.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


> On December 20, 2015 at 5:42 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Since you guys are such AMAZING prognosticators of Democratic defeat, how
> about predicting who will win the GOP slugfest?

I don't know, but his name wasn't Guiliani in 2008 and it's not Bush in 2016.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT laptop HD

2015-12-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I bought this $40 winXP laptop to put with my little laser engraver and 
the HD on the thing seems to have crapped out.  Anybody have a disused 
drive, doesn't have to be very big?  I think the one in there is maybe 40GB.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.

2015-12-20 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Wilton.
Thanks for the kudo. I really need a week in a spa.
Fred.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.

& an ATTABOY!

Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.


> Congrats on the successful punkin hunt.  That earns a Waytago!
>
>
> Fan's no big trick on that.  Buy a used un on Car-part.com or your
> focal knacker, check/replace the brushes, and swap the fans.   Read
> up on the how tos.  If you can take out the used one yourself, that
> makes a good dry run for when you have to do it on your car.
>
>
>>Alles.
>>
>>The great pumpkin is installed in the '87 300TD. The car now runs
>>almost silently as designed, with no noise from the rear end. I only
>>feel about 200 years olde today instead of Methuselah's stand in.
>>
>>The next most pressing fix is to replace the blower motor. Any and
>>all reasonable suggestions appreciated.
>>
>>I do have a working spare motor/fan/controller assembly.
>>
>>
>>Fred Moir.
>>Lynn MA.
>>Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.

2015-12-20 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Peter.
Thanks for the method and pointers.
I'd only add, disconnect the battery. Curt can attest that the wiper assembly 
can pinch thumbs and anything else in the way.
Fred


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Cc: Peter Frederick
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.

Blower motor is fairly easy on these.

Remove wiper arm by taking out the pinch bolt and sliding off.  Please
be careful not to slam something into the windshield.

Pull trim at base of windshield off.  Watch for loose seals, they need
to be glued back on.

Pull seal off inner firewall, then remove the screws and finger grip
knobs to allow you to remove the side tray drains (may have to do the
next step first though).  Keep screws in order, there are several sizes.

Remove small phillips head screws on the seal around the base of the
wiper motor and remove the screen over the blower motor.

Stuff rags around the heater box so you won't drop a nut in, it's real
pain. Unplug wiper motor and remove four nuts to release it.
CAREFULLY remove it, if some monkey went crazy with windshield sealant
on a replacement it's possible to have it stick badly, and you can
crack the windshield if you tip it up from the bottom too much.  One
nut is hard to see.

Unclip the outside air temp sensor and move it out of the way.

Unclip all the little steel clips that hold the upper housing of the
heater box and it will come off.

Motor is held in by a spring clip.  Pull the wires off (two, red and
blue I think).  Unclip spring clip and lift motor out.

Drop new motor in and attach wires and spring clip and test, it's a
tight fit and you don't want it rubbing on the housing.  If it's still
dead, you will need to replace the controller.  That is underneath the
blower, held in place by one screw.  Take out the screw and wrestle it
out, the factory one is huge and only comes out one way.  Wires go
through a seal on the box, you need to push it out and unplug the
harness by the brake booster and fish in out through the box.

Installation is the reverse.  Don't drop any nuts down the heater box,
they go into never-never land.

Don't forget to put the outside air temp sensor back in the hole, and
make absolutely positive that the upper housing fits together before
you try to attach the clips.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.

2015-12-20 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Blower motor is fairly easy on these.

Remove wiper arm by taking out the pinch bolt and sliding off.  Please  
be careful not to slam something into the windshield.


Pull trim at base of windshield off.  Watch for loose seals, they need  
to be glued back on.


Pull seal off inner firewall, then remove the screws and finger grip  
knobs to allow you to remove the side tray drains (may have to do the  
next step first though).  Keep screws in order, there are several sizes.


Remove small phillips head screws on the seal around the base of the  
wiper motor and remove the screen over the blower motor.


Stuff rags around the heater box so you won't drop a nut in, it's real  
pain. Unplug wiper motor and remove four nuts to release it.   
CAREFULLY remove it, if some monkey went crazy with windshield sealant  
on a replacement it's possible to have it stick badly, and you can  
crack the windshield if you tip it up from the bottom too much.  One  
nut is hard to see.


Unclip the outside air temp sensor and move it out of the way.

Unclip all the little steel clips that hold the upper housing of the  
heater box and it will come off.


Motor is held in by a spring clip.  Pull the wires off (two, red and  
blue I think).  Unclip spring clip and lift motor out.


Drop new motor in and attach wires and spring clip and test, it's a  
tight fit and you don't want it rubbing on the housing.  If it's still  
dead, you will need to replace the controller.  That is underneath the  
blower, held in place by one screw.  Take out the screw and wrestle it  
out, the factory one is huge and only comes out one way.  Wires go  
through a seal on the box, you need to push it out and unplug the  
harness by the brake booster and fish in out through the box.


Installation is the reverse.  Don't drop any nuts down the heater box,  
they go into never-never land.


Don't forget to put the outside air temp sensor back in the hole, and  
make absolutely positive that the upper housing fits together before  
you try to attach the clips.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Watch and Live!

2015-12-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I re-read Rich' post several times.  Finally realized he mistakenly
inserted an "r" where an "n" was meant to appear.  Or perhaps not, and that
"sparked the bone" is an old Gullah metaphor for something entirely
different.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> I figured if he had sparked a bone before leaving for work he would have
> been fine.
>
> Did you notice that the driver of the wagon in the contest looked like a
> 60s pR0n star?
>
> --R
>
> On 12/20/15 2:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> LOL. The henpecked husband reminds me of E. G Marshall.  This film reminds
> us that most cars of the 50s and 60s are just plain ugly, deserve to rust
> away in junkyards.
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> It's the bitchy wife's fault, clearly.
>>
>>
>> http://jalopnik.com/let-s-all-watch-this-unintentionally-hilarious-defensiv-1748404779
>>
>> Notice at the beginning it happens on 400E
>>
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
With all those negatives, anyone the GOP nominates will CRUISE to a
LANDSLIDE victory next November.  That is, assuming she isn't behind bars
or that Bernie or Marty doesn't win a brokered convention.

Since you guys are such AMAZING prognosticators of Democratic defeat, how
about predicting who will win the GOP slugfest?

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> All indications suggest that the less people hear of her the better she
> remains.  When they start hearing from her, the numbers go down.  Put the
> theater on a Sat night when no one is watching and it does the minimum of
> damage to Hillary!.
>
> Plus I saw that the Hilz campaign is paying the DNC, that's why they are
> trying to shut the Bern out.  The others must not know yet that it is Her
> Turn.
>
> --R
>
> On 12/20/15 2:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> By all accounts she did just fine.  Marty may be moving up in the polls.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> She had to negotiate more time with her parole officer?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Where did Hillary! disappear to last night?

 You do know the reason why the "debate" was scheduled for a Saturday
 evening before Christmas, right?

 --R

 On 12/20/15 1:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 Curly strikes again.
>
> When Hillary (or Bernie, or Marty) takes over you better head north,
> WAY
> north.
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> What does she do up in Canada?
>
>> She sues US goobermnt employees who play racketball.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
All indications suggest that the less people hear of her the better she 
remains.  When they start hearing from her, the numbers go down.  Put 
the theater on a Sat night when no one is watching and it does the 
minimum of damage to Hillary!.


Plus I saw that the Hilz campaign is paying the DNC, that's why they are 
trying to shut the Bern out.  The others must not know yet that it is 
Her Turn.


--R

On 12/20/15 2:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

By all accounts she did just fine.  Marty may be moving up in the polls.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:


She had to negotiate more time with her parole officer?

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Where did Hillary! disappear to last night?

You do know the reason why the "debate" was scheduled for a Saturday
evening before Christmas, right?

--R

On 12/20/15 1:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


Curly strikes again.

When Hillary (or Bernie, or Marty) takes over you better head north, WAY
north.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

What does she do up in Canada?

She sues US goobermnt employees who play racketball.


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Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.

2015-12-20 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

& an ATTABOY!

Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.



Congrats on the successful punkin hunt.  That earns a Waytago!


Fan's no big trick on that.  Buy a used un on Car-part.com or your 
focal knacker, check/replace the brushes, and swap the fans.   Read 
up on the how tos.  If you can take out the used one yourself, that 
makes a good dry run for when you have to do it on your car.




Alles.

The great pumpkin is installed in the '87 300TD. The car now runs 
almost silently as designed, with no noise from the rear end. I only 
feel about 200 years olde today instead of Methuselah's stand in.


The next most pressing fix is to replace the blower motor. Any and 
all reasonable suggestions appreciated.


I do have a working spare motor/fan/controller assembly.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


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Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.

2015-12-20 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Congrats on the successful punkin hunt.  That earns a Waytago!


Fan's no big trick on that.  Buy a used un on Car-part.com or your 
focal knacker, check/replace the brushes, and swap the fans.   Read 
up on the how tos.  If you can take out the used one yourself, that 
makes a good dry run for when you have to do it on your car.




Alles.

The great pumpkin is installed in the '87 300TD. The car now runs 
almost silently as designed, with no noise from the rear end. I only 
feel about 200 years olde today instead of Methuselah's stand in.


The next most pressing fix is to replace the blower motor. Any and 
all reasonable suggestions appreciated.


I do have a working spare motor/fan/controller assembly.


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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Where did Hillary! disappear to last night?

You do know the reason why the "debate" was scheduled for a Saturday 
evening before Christmas, right?


--R


She flew off on er broom!

Sat because she thought it was halowe'en

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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

By all accounts she did just fine.  Marty may be moving up in the polls.


A dead parrot should be moving up in the polls against the unindicted 
conspirator in chief!


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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
By all accounts she did just fine.  Marty may be moving up in the polls.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
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> She had to negotiate more time with her parole officer?
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Where did Hillary! disappear to last night?
> >
> > You do know the reason why the "debate" was scheduled for a Saturday
> > evening before Christmas, right?
> >
> > --R
> >
> > On 12/20/15 1:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Curly strikes again.
> >>
> >> When Hillary (or Bernie, or Marty) takes over you better head north, WAY
> >> north.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> What does she do up in Canada?
> >>> She sues US goobermnt employees who play racketball.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Watch and Live!

2015-12-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I figured if he had sparked a bone before leaving for work he would have 
been fine.


Did you notice that the driver of the wagon in the contest looked like a 
60s pR0n star?


--R

On 12/20/15 2:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
LOL. The henpecked husband reminds me of E. G Marshall.  This film 
reminds us that most cars of the 50s and 60s are just plain ugly, 
deserve to rust away in junkyards.


On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


It's the bitchy wife's fault, clearly.


http://jalopnik.com/let-s-all-watch-this-unintentionally-hilarious-defensiv-1748404779

Notice at the beginning it happens on 400E

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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
She had to negotiate more time with her parole officer?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Where did Hillary! disappear to last night?
>
> You do know the reason why the "debate" was scheduled for a Saturday
> evening before Christmas, right?
>
> --R
>
> On 12/20/15 1:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Curly strikes again.
>>
>> When Hillary (or Bernie, or Marty) takes over you better head north, WAY
>> north.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> What does she do up in Canada?
>>> She sues US goobermnt employees who play racketball.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Where did Hillary! disappear to last night?

You do know the reason why the "debate" was scheduled for a Saturday 
evening before Christmas, right?


--R

On 12/20/15 1:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Curly strikes again.

When Hillary (or Bernie, or Marty) takes over you better head north, WAY
north.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


What does she do up in Canada?
She sues US goobermnt employees who play racketball.


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Re: [MBZ] Watch and Live!

2015-12-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
LOL. The henpecked husband reminds me of E. G Marshall.  This film reminds
us that most cars of the 50s and 60s are just plain ugly, deserve to rust
away in junkyards.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It's the bitchy wife's fault, clearly.
>
>
> http://jalopnik.com/let-s-all-watch-this-unintentionally-hilarious-defensiv-1748404779
>
> Notice at the beginning it happens on 400E
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Stupid spoiler tricks

2015-12-20 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
That'll...yanno, I don't think that WILL buff out.  XP

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Re: [MBZ] Pumpkin time.

2015-12-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Was bedeutet das "great pumpkin"?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Alles.
>
> The great pumpkin is installed in the '87 300TD. The car now runs almost
> silently as designed, with no noise from the rear end. I only feel about
> 200 years olde today instead of Methuselah's stand in.
>
> The next most pressing fix is to replace the blower motor. Any and all
> reasonable suggestions appreciated.
>
> I do have a working spare motor/fan/controller assembly.
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
At some point later on down the line I plan on also getting a 4 post 
lift which I would then use more for this sort of stuff.


On 12/20/2015 12:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I URGE you to use extreme caution while pushing UP on a car which is
balanced by gravity on a lift.

You can upset the balance point of the car, which can lead to disaster,
with you under it..

Remember. SAFETY FIRST - STUPID SECOND rule..

All that said.. A transmission jack made or adapted to be used under a lift
will lift the engine enough to give "wiggle room" to replace engine mounts.

I would caution against using a 4x4 positioned on the head of a floor jack,
or a jack on the floor, since as you lift the engine.. the balance angle of
the 4x4 changes and you then have two unsecured ends that will kick out,
causing potential great harm to yourself. The physics are all wrong in that
application. Risky at best.. Chances are your children will be raised by
someone else.. after the funeral..

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Get a transmission jack, they are tall, made for that job

--R

On 12/20/15 1:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


I have probably 18-20' ceilings in mine, I have not measured it.  So when
doing things just as trans r&r, or maybe changing motor mounts where I
would previously put a jack under the engine and jack it up a little bit,
how does that work with a lift?  Do they sell tall jack stand deals to put
your jack on?



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[MBZ] Stupid spoiler tricks

2015-12-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
http://img.izismile.com/img/img8/20151219/640/daily_picdump_1999_640_31.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I URGE you to use extreme caution while pushing UP on a car which is
balanced by gravity on a lift.

You can upset the balance point of the car, which can lead to disaster,
with you under it..

Remember. SAFETY FIRST - STUPID SECOND rule..

All that said.. A transmission jack made or adapted to be used under a lift
will lift the engine enough to give "wiggle room" to replace engine mounts.

I would caution against using a 4x4 positioned on the head of a floor jack,
or a jack on the floor, since as you lift the engine.. the balance angle of
the 4x4 changes and you then have two unsecured ends that will kick out,
causing potential great harm to yourself. The physics are all wrong in that
application. Risky at best.. Chances are your children will be raised by
someone else.. after the funeral..

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Get a transmission jack, they are tall, made for that job
>
> --R
>
> On 12/20/15 1:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I have probably 18-20' ceilings in mine, I have not measured it.  So when
>> doing things just as trans r&r, or maybe changing motor mounts where I
>> would previously put a jack under the engine and jack it up a little bit,
>> how does that work with a lift?  Do they sell tall jack stand deals to put
>> your jack on?
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Holiday, just divested myself of used MB parts

2015-12-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Curly strikes again.

When Hillary (or Bernie, or Marty) takes over you better head north, WAY
north.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What does she do up in Canada?
>>
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[MBZ] Pumpkin time.

2015-12-20 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Alles.

The great pumpkin is installed in the '87 300TD. The car now runs almost 
silently as designed, with no noise from the rear end. I only feel about 200 
years olde today instead of Methuselah's stand in.

The next most pressing fix is to replace the blower motor. Any and all 
reasonable suggestions appreciated.

I do have a working spare motor/fan/controller assembly.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Get a transmission jack, they are tall, made for that job

--R

On 12/20/15 1:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I have probably 18-20' ceilings in mine, I have not measured it.  So 
when doing things just as trans r&r, or maybe changing motor mounts 
where I would previously put a jack under the engine and jack it up a 
little bit, how does that work with a lift?  Do they sell tall jack 
stand deals to put your jack on?





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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


> On December 20, 2015 at 1:25 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have probably 18-20' ceilings in mine, I have not measured it.  So 
> when doing things just as trans r&r, or maybe changing motor mounts 
> where I would previously put a jack under the engine and jack it up a 
> little bit, how does that work with a lift?  Do they sell tall jack 
> stand deals to put your jack on?

You buy a 5' tall transmission jack. 
Most of them don't work with the car raised so high you can walk under it
without ducking. 


http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/category_jacks+transmission-jacks

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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Kaleb.
Yep, they do make "Tall Jack Stands". Lots on the web.
Fred


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb C. Striplin 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

I have probably 18-20' ceilings in mine, I have not measured it.  So
when doing things just as trans r&r, or maybe changing motor mounts
where I would previously put a jack under the engine and jack it up a
little bit, how does that work with a lift?  Do they sell tall jack
stand deals to put your jack on?
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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Use a 4x4 with a wider plate on top, and lower the car a bit - - or place
the 4x4 on a floor jack and raise the post, so you can put a hole in the
pan like I did!

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have probably 18-20' ceilings in mine, I have not measured it.  So when
> doing things just as trans r&r, or maybe changing motor mounts where I
> would previously put a jack under the engine and jack it up a little bit,
> how does that work with a lift?  Do they sell tall jack stand deals to put
> your jack on?
>
>
> On 12/20/2015 11:49 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I have a two post lift, 9,000lb. Symmetrical arms. Hydraulic over Chain
>> [one main hydraulic pump, one master hydraulic cylinder connected by chain
>> for each upright.]  Manufacturer is Rotary Lift Company.
>>
>> The lift arms are long enough to allow access to vehicle doors [unless you
>> are XXXL size], however, interior work is better if you plan ahead and do
>> it before you put the vehicle on the lift, as much as possible.
>>
>> Ceiling clearance is a consideration. most home garages lack interior
>> clearance to accommodate a lift. If your building is on commercial scale,
>> you may be good.
>>
>> Having a lift at your beck and call will make life easy in ways you have
>> not imagined. Jobs that you previously planned a week for will take you a
>> couple hours. I use mine to pull engines, drop transmissions, brakes, etc
>> etc.. all while standing or adjusted to comfortable working height. A roll
>> tool box and a work table on wheels puts the world at your fingertips.
>>
>> Don't forget an intercom, so you can order lunch on time.. ;))
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> My shop is pretty much built commercial grade and there was a lift in
>>> there previously, so I think I am good in that regard.  Just since since
>>> posting them one more thing has popped up, chain drive or direct drive.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/20/2015 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> Just be sure you construct the proper base for the posts, which will
 likely mean digging out a part of your (existing) floor and digging and
 rebarring a proper footing with the bolts embedded.

 And bigger is always better.  I have seen a couple on CL recently for
 about $2k but no details on them.

 --R

 On 12/20/15 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

 Any of you cheap lazy folks have a 2 post lift in your shop?  I have
> been looking at them for a while and a few questions come to mind on
> what
> to look for.
>
> 1. Most work will be on MB, but will also work on my 3/4 ton truck and
> suburban.  9k or worth the extra $100 or so for a 10k lift?
>
> 2. Symmetrical or asymmetrical?  Asymmetrical seems to give you more
> clearance to open the doors.  Some or most of the lists seem to have
> asymmetrical arms but do not appear to be true asymmetrical lifts as
> in the
> columns are rotated in slightly as opposed to pointing directly across
> to
> each other
>
> 3. Single point or 2 point release?
>
> 4. I assume the highest lift I can find and the largest width between
> columns I can find for the most room.
>
> Anything else I should be looking for?
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Re: [MBZ] HID Bulb replacement

2015-12-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

That was the blood from the prisoner slave laborer burning off

--R

On 12/19/15 7:59 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

Seems like there should be no oil or
other smoke producing residue on a brand new bulb.


Exactly.  Because you _ensured_ that by cleaning the bulb
first with a paper towel and alcohol!

At least, that's what I did.  How well trained in white-glove
production do you think the $6 Chinese factory bulb worker was?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have probably 18-20' ceilings in mine, I have not measured it.  So 
when doing things just as trans r&r, or maybe changing motor mounts 
where I would previously put a jack under the engine and jack it up a 
little bit, how does that work with a lift?  Do they sell tall jack 
stand deals to put your jack on?


On 12/20/2015 11:49 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I have a two post lift, 9,000lb. Symmetrical arms. Hydraulic over Chain
[one main hydraulic pump, one master hydraulic cylinder connected by chain
for each upright.]  Manufacturer is Rotary Lift Company.

The lift arms are long enough to allow access to vehicle doors [unless you
are XXXL size], however, interior work is better if you plan ahead and do
it before you put the vehicle on the lift, as much as possible.

Ceiling clearance is a consideration. most home garages lack interior
clearance to accommodate a lift. If your building is on commercial scale,
you may be good.

Having a lift at your beck and call will make life easy in ways you have
not imagined. Jobs that you previously planned a week for will take you a
couple hours. I use mine to pull engines, drop transmissions, brakes, etc
etc.. all while standing or adjusted to comfortable working height. A roll
tool box and a work table on wheels puts the world at your fingertips.

Don't forget an intercom, so you can order lunch on time.. ;))



On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


My shop is pretty much built commercial grade and there was a lift in
there previously, so I think I am good in that regard.  Just since since
posting them one more thing has popped up, chain drive or direct drive.


On 12/20/2015 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:


Just be sure you construct the proper base for the posts, which will
likely mean digging out a part of your (existing) floor and digging and
rebarring a proper footing with the bolts embedded.

And bigger is always better.  I have seen a couple on CL recently for
about $2k but no details on them.

--R

On 12/20/15 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


Any of you cheap lazy folks have a 2 post lift in your shop?  I have
been looking at them for a while and a few questions come to mind on what
to look for.

1. Most work will be on MB, but will also work on my 3/4 ton truck and
suburban.  9k or worth the extra $100 or so for a 10k lift?

2. Symmetrical or asymmetrical?  Asymmetrical seems to give you more
clearance to open the doors.  Some or most of the lists seem to have
asymmetrical arms but do not appear to be true asymmetrical lifts as in the
columns are rotated in slightly as opposed to pointing directly across to
each other

3. Single point or 2 point release?

4. I assume the highest lift I can find and the largest width between
columns I can find for the most room.

Anything else I should be looking for?

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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
My lift has safety interlocks ever 4 inches that click into place as the
lift goes up. If anything fails it can't drop more than 4 inches. You have
to release the safety locks to lower the lift. The "chains" are multi layer
links rated for way more than the lift is, so I feel pretty safe walking
under a vehicle.

However, the rule in my shop is.. never place a body part you want to keep
between what ever can fall and the ground,
 so the sign reads:  SAFETY FIRST - STUPID SECOND

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Screw drive too.  I think those might be inherently safer too.
>
> --R
>
> On 12/20/15 12:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> My shop is pretty much built commercial grade and there was a lift in
>> there previously, so I think I am good in that regard.  Just since since
>> posting them one more thing has popped up, chain drive or direct drive.
>>
>> On 12/20/2015 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Just be sure you construct the proper base for the posts, which will
>>> likely mean digging out a part of your (existing) floor and digging and
>>> rebarring a proper footing with the bolts embedded.
>>>
>>> And bigger is always better.  I have seen a couple on CL recently for
>>> about $2k but no details on them.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>> On 12/20/15 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
 Any of you cheap lazy folks have a 2 post lift in your shop?  I have
 been looking at them for a while and a few questions come to mind on what
 to look for.

 1. Most work will be on MB, but will also work on my 3/4 ton truck and
 suburban.  9k or worth the extra $100 or so for a 10k lift?

 2. Symmetrical or asymmetrical?  Asymmetrical seems to give you more
 clearance to open the doors.  Some or most of the lists seem to have
 asymmetrical arms but do not appear to be true asymmetrical lifts as in the
 columns are rotated in slightly as opposed to pointing directly across to
 each other

 3. Single point or 2 point release?

 4. I assume the highest lift I can find and the largest width between
 columns I can find for the most room.

 Anything else I should be looking for?

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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I have a two post lift, 9,000lb. Symmetrical arms. Hydraulic over Chain
[one main hydraulic pump, one master hydraulic cylinder connected by chain
for each upright.]  Manufacturer is Rotary Lift Company.

The lift arms are long enough to allow access to vehicle doors [unless you
are XXXL size], however, interior work is better if you plan ahead and do
it before you put the vehicle on the lift, as much as possible.

Ceiling clearance is a consideration. most home garages lack interior
clearance to accommodate a lift. If your building is on commercial scale,
you may be good.

Having a lift at your beck and call will make life easy in ways you have
not imagined. Jobs that you previously planned a week for will take you a
couple hours. I use mine to pull engines, drop transmissions, brakes, etc
etc.. all while standing or adjusted to comfortable working height. A roll
tool box and a work table on wheels puts the world at your fingertips.

Don't forget an intercom, so you can order lunch on time.. ;))



On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My shop is pretty much built commercial grade and there was a lift in
> there previously, so I think I am good in that regard.  Just since since
> posting them one more thing has popped up, chain drive or direct drive.
>
>
> On 12/20/2015 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Just be sure you construct the proper base for the posts, which will
>> likely mean digging out a part of your (existing) floor and digging and
>> rebarring a proper footing with the bolts embedded.
>>
>> And bigger is always better.  I have seen a couple on CL recently for
>> about $2k but no details on them.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 12/20/15 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Any of you cheap lazy folks have a 2 post lift in your shop?  I have
>>> been looking at them for a while and a few questions come to mind on what
>>> to look for.
>>>
>>> 1. Most work will be on MB, but will also work on my 3/4 ton truck and
>>> suburban.  9k or worth the extra $100 or so for a 10k lift?
>>>
>>> 2. Symmetrical or asymmetrical?  Asymmetrical seems to give you more
>>> clearance to open the doors.  Some or most of the lists seem to have
>>> asymmetrical arms but do not appear to be true asymmetrical lifts as in the
>>> columns are rotated in slightly as opposed to pointing directly across to
>>> each other
>>>
>>> 3. Single point or 2 point release?
>>>
>>> 4. I assume the highest lift I can find and the largest width between
>>> columns I can find for the most room.
>>>
>>> Anything else I should be looking for?
>>>
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[MBZ] Watch and Live!

2015-12-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

It's the bitchy wife's fault, clearly.

http://jalopnik.com/let-s-all-watch-this-unintentionally-hilarious-defensiv-1748404779

Notice at the beginning it happens on 400E

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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Screw drive too.  I think those might be inherently safer too.

--R

On 12/20/15 12:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
My shop is pretty much built commercial grade and there was a lift in 
there previously, so I think I am good in that regard.  Just since 
since posting them one more thing has popped up, chain drive or direct 
drive.


On 12/20/2015 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
Just be sure you construct the proper base for the posts, which will 
likely mean digging out a part of your (existing) floor and digging 
and rebarring a proper footing with the bolts embedded.


And bigger is always better.  I have seen a couple on CL recently for 
about $2k but no details on them.


--R

On 12/20/15 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Any of you cheap lazy folks have a 2 post lift in your shop?  I have 
been looking at them for a while and a few questions come to mind on 
what to look for.


1. Most work will be on MB, but will also work on my 3/4 ton truck 
and suburban.  9k or worth the extra $100 or so for a 10k lift?


2. Symmetrical or asymmetrical?  Asymmetrical seems to give you more 
clearance to open the doors.  Some or most of the lists seem to have 
asymmetrical arms but do not appear to be true asymmetrical lifts as 
in the columns are rotated in slightly as opposed to pointing 
directly across to each other


3. Single point or 2 point release?

4. I assume the highest lift I can find and the largest width 
between columns I can find for the most room.


Anything else I should be looking for?

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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
My shop is pretty much built commercial grade and there was a lift in 
there previously, so I think I am good in that regard.  Just since since 
posting them one more thing has popped up, chain drive or direct drive.


On 12/20/2015 11:00 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
Just be sure you construct the proper base for the posts, which will 
likely mean digging out a part of your (existing) floor and digging 
and rebarring a proper footing with the bolts embedded.


And bigger is always better.  I have seen a couple on CL recently for 
about $2k but no details on them.


--R

On 12/20/15 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Any of you cheap lazy folks have a 2 post lift in your shop?  I have 
been looking at them for a while and a few questions come to mind on 
what to look for.


1. Most work will be on MB, but will also work on my 3/4 ton truck 
and suburban.  9k or worth the extra $100 or so for a 10k lift?


2. Symmetrical or asymmetrical?  Asymmetrical seems to give you more 
clearance to open the doors.  Some or most of the lists seem to have 
asymmetrical arms but do not appear to be true asymmetrical lifts as 
in the columns are rotated in slightly as opposed to pointing 
directly across to each other


3. Single point or 2 point release?

4. I assume the highest lift I can find and the largest width between 
columns I can find for the most room.


Anything else I should be looking for?

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Re: [MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Just be sure you construct the proper base for the posts, which will 
likely mean digging out a part of your (existing) floor and digging and 
rebarring a proper footing with the bolts embedded.


And bigger is always better.  I have seen a couple on CL recently for 
about $2k but no details on them.


--R

On 12/20/15 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Any of you cheap lazy folks have a 2 post lift in your shop?  I have 
been looking at them for a while and a few questions come to mind on 
what to look for.


1. Most work will be on MB, but will also work on my 3/4 ton truck and 
suburban.  9k or worth the extra $100 or so for a 10k lift?


2. Symmetrical or asymmetrical?  Asymmetrical seems to give you more 
clearance to open the doors.  Some or most of the lists seem to have 
asymmetrical arms but do not appear to be true asymmetrical lifts as 
in the columns are rotated in slightly as opposed to pointing directly 
across to each other


3. Single point or 2 point release?

4. I assume the highest lift I can find and the largest width between 
columns I can find for the most room.


Anything else I should be looking for?

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[MBZ] 2 post lifts

2015-12-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Any of you cheap lazy folks have a 2 post lift in your shop?  I have 
been looking at them for a while and a few questions come to mind on 
what to look for.


1. Most work will be on MB, but will also work on my 3/4 ton truck and 
suburban.  9k or worth the extra $100 or so for a 10k lift?


2. Symmetrical or asymmetrical?  Asymmetrical seems to give you more 
clearance to open the doors.  Some or most of the lists seem to have 
asymmetrical arms but do not appear to be true asymmetrical lifts as in 
the columns are rotated in slightly as opposed to pointing directly 
across to each other


3. Single point or 2 point release?

4. I assume the highest lift I can find and the largest width between 
columns I can find for the most room.


Anything else I should be looking for?

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