date:20160611


See attached photo.
Oh so true.  Big uproar over one.  BIG silence over the other.

Double standard?  Hypocrites?  Why the disparity?

so all the west coast and it seems a good part of the country is all 
atwitter that this stanford kid got a light sentence.


Meanwhile, a serial rapist walks free, delivering "speeches" so 
memorable nobody records them, and rakes in millions for selling state 
secrets, with his dear wifey, hands out millions of taxpayer dollars, of 
which about 30% are paid to him, and outside of a couple guys on the 
radio, nothing is said.  No demand that he be prosecuted from the 
"caring" public, no arrest, nobody atwitter, only crickets.


Double standard?  Hypocrites?  Why the disparity?
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You can turn off the micafone in the setup menu, I did that.

The instructions (and the other user "manual") alludes to the GPS input 
but no details on how it might work.


The keep back 500ft from dumb trucks is BS, has no liability protection.

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Once you receive the camera, you will find there is a focus feature that
lets you easily zoom in close focus and read and record license plate
details.

Also.. remember there is a microphone built into the camera.. it records
anything spoken. So be careful what you say on cam [ I'm gonna kill
that s@)#($*$%*%
might not play well in court]. However if you make verbal comments that are
pertinent to the event it might play well in court..

It's your decision. From my recent experience.. I suggest you take extra
care to ensure the time/date stamp is correct.. and, the camera has a place
to plug in GPS input.. so if you have a GPS, it can overlay exact location,
speed, etc.. [again.. it could hang you in court as well as save you, you
decide].

Good luck, and safe motoring..


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Just ordered this from Amazon: Black Box G1W-CB "Black Bezel" Capacitor
Model Dashboard Dash Cam - Heat Resistant - Full HD 1080P H.264 2.7" LCD
Car DVR Camera Video Recorder - WDR 140° Wide Angle 4x Zoom with Motion
Detection Night Vision G-Sensor - NT96650 + AR0330

Should have had this in SWMBO's car last night.  If we like it, I'll
probably get a second for The White Whale.

Called The Authorities today about the damage from the truck's load raining
onto the car, and basically we are up the creek as far as pursing a police
report and insurance claim.  The officer I spoke with this afternoon said
the best thing would be to see if DMV will run the license and provide the
registered owner, then pursue them in small claims court.  He said some
trucking companies (especially the local guys) will settle immediately and
write a check, but that is not too common.

The State Police have an automatic license plate reader system, that may
have captured the trucks plates / time / location, so if we can get that
record, more evidence for a court case.  State DOT also has various traffic
cams around, they may have footage as well.  Would be nice to show our car
in position behind the truck with turn signal on trying to get out and pass
but being blocked and held in place behind the truck by heavy traffic in
the right lane.

-
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Charleston SC

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By semi-trailer truck. SWMBO got behind one, now the front of the '95
sedan is very pitted. She did get the license plate number, we'll call

the

authorities tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath. I only have

liability

insurance, so we need to make the other party pay, if possible.
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Re: [MBZ] Just needs a little poos attention

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That  will buff out.

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As BO said, "you didn't build dat."  Clinton did not build the economy 
of the 90s, RR did.  Billy bob was kept form screwing it up by Newt and 
the gress of cons, back when a few grew a spine.



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So bottom line, we had 8 years of prosperity under Clinton.  Sure, he was
human and had some personal foibles, but in the scheme of things it
mattered little compared to all the good he accomplished.

Which got me to thinking - putting bitterness aside, who is you all's
favorite right wing candidate?

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As I love yours,  because they are so "dependable" and reliably
unfettered by fact or pertinent detail..

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I love your unbiased sources!

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It didn't come from the propo mouthpiece, the warshington compost, so

he

won't believe it.

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June 11, 2016 at 4:51 PMvia Postbox<


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hmmm. maybe Andrew can enlighten us on some of the details


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/you-heard-of-trump-u-but-what-about-clinton-university/article/2593571

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As I love yours, because they are so "dependable" and reliably
unfettered by fact or pertinent detail..


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I love your unbiased sources!


Curley McLain 
June 11, 2016 at 7:34 PMvia Postbox 

It didn't come from the propo mouthpiece, the warshington compost, so 
he won't believe it.



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hmmm. maybe Andrew can enlighten us on some of the details 
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/you-heard-of-trump-u-but-what-about-clinton-university/article/2593571 



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2016-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Grant, you are either VERY funny or a complete idiot.  Which is it?

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Re: [MBZ] OT a question

2016-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

So bottom line, we had 8 years of prosperity under Clinton.  Sure, he was
human and had some personal foibles, but in the scheme of things it
mattered little compared to all the good he accomplished.

Which got me to thinking - putting bitterness aside, who is you all's
favorite right wing candidate?

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Re: [MBZ] template for Grant's popos to follow


So your lawyer condones idiotism?

--JC


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Well.. I just had dinner with my lawyer best buddy. We explored what legal
device could defeat all of those "ism" claims and came up with a simple but
elegant legal move.

To date "Idiot", under applicable laws has not been declared  a "Race" or a
"gender" and "equally applies to all skin colors..

So it was mutually agreed that all offending parties could be called
"Idiot" without incurring legal issues.

I'll put it out for a vote.. what say you?


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Because...  some would yell racism or sexism or genderism or white
privilege if you voiced your observation?
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Charleston SC
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Both of the pass/cuts were Florida pickups, the bumper riders were a
mix
but had one attribute in common that I shall not mention.

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In the IT industry it is called an ID Ten T error.
...
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Spelled ID10T


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Well.. I just had dinner with my lawyer best buddy. We explored what legal
device could defeat all of those "ism" claims and came up with a 
simple but

elegant legal move.

To date "Idiot", under applicable laws has not been declared a "Race" or a
"gender" and "equally applies to all skin colors..

So it was mutually agreed that all offending parties could be called
"Idiot" without incurring legal issues.

I'll put it out for a vote.. what say you?


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June 10, 2016 at 11:48 PMvia Postbox 

Because... some would yell racism or sexism or genderism or white 
privilege if you voiced your observation?

Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 10, 2016 at 9:54 PMvia Postbox 

Today I was driving on I-95 in SC and NC and there were 3 or 4 
incidents where I am tooling along in the left lane at 75, passing a 
truck or something, and some car comes up VERY fast behind me and gets 
right on my bumper until I complete my pass and move over.  Also a 
couple where I have moved left to pass, one comes up fast behind me, 
switches to the right lane and passes me then cuts right () in 
front of me to pass the other vehicle too, speeds of 75-80.  That 
scared me more than the idiot riding my bumper as one small swipe on 
my RF fender would send us both cartwheeling and likely kill us and 
whoever else happens to be in the vicinity.  I had the cam running, I 
should probably download the trip just to have that to review.  That 
was some scary times.


Both of the pass/cuts were Florida pickups, the bumper riders were a 
mix but had one attribute in common that I shall not mention.


--JC




Curley McLain 
June 10, 2016 at 6:42 PMvia Postbox 

http://whotv.com/2016/06/10/part-of-interstate-35-closed-for-serious-accident-in-ankeny/ 



This happened this morning.  Very similar conditions it seems, to 
Grant's perp.  Differences are that this one was on the interstate, 
and that the perp had a long OWI record, and that one poor guy was 
killed.


The list of charges is particularly interesting.   no info yet on if 
the car rammed was going the speed limit.


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Yet again.. a picture is worth 1,000 words.. hahahhaha..

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As I love yours,  because they are so "dependable" and reliably
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> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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Well.. I just had dinner with my lawyer best buddy. We explored what legal
device could defeat all of those "ism" claims and came up with a simple but
elegant legal move.

To date "Idiot", under applicable laws has not been declared  a "Race" or a
"gender" and "equally applies to all skin colors..

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[MBZ] Just needs a little poos attention

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2016-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

I love your unbiased sources!

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Re: [MBZ] Sand blasting

2016-06-11 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Same here, open truck loads are supposed to be covered with a tarp.  The law 
was pass ten or more years ago.  SWMBO is convinced this driver was sand 
blasting her on purpose, as he passed her and then the attack began, and she 
was trapped by heavy traffic and couldn't move into the left lane to pass.  
Apparently she didn't consider or didn't feel safe slowing down to let the 
truck pull away.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 11, 2016 6:53:05 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Additive thought..
>Here, all dump truck loads must be tarp covered. Most of them now have
>signs on the back that say "Stay back 500 ft." also.
>
>Arizona used to be the land of construction [pre 2008 housing crash]
>and
>held the record for broken windshields and damage from debris blowing /
>falling off trucks. Laws were passed.
>
>On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 3:49 PM, G Mann  wrote:
>
>> Once you receive the camera, you will find there is a focus feature
>that
>> lets you easily zoom in close focus and read and record license plate
>> details.
>>
>> Also.. remember there is a microphone built into the camera.. it
>records
>> anything spoken. So be careful what you say on cam [ I'm gonna kill
>that s@)#($*$%*%
>> might not play well in court]. However if you make verbal comments
>that are
>> pertinent to the event it might play well in court..
>>
>> It's your decision. From my recent experience.. I suggest you take
>extra
>> care to ensure the time/date stamp is correct.. and, the camera has a
>place
>> to plug in GPS input.. so if you have a GPS, it can overlay exact
>location,
>> speed, etc.. [again.. it could hang you in court as well as save you,
>you
>> decide].
>>
>> Good luck, and safe motoring..
>>
>>
>>
>
>> Virus-free
>>
>
>> <#m_4729576741510973765_DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just ordered this from Amazon: Black Box G1W-CB "Black Bezel"
>Capacitor
>>> Model Dashboard Dash Cam - Heat Resistant - Full HD 1080P H.264 2.7"
>LCD
>>> Car DVR Camera Video Recorder - WDR 140° Wide Angle 4x Zoom with
>Motion
>>> Detection Night Vision G-Sensor - NT96650 + AR0330
>>>
>>> Should have had this in SWMBO's car last night.  If we like it, I'll
>>> probably get a second for The White Whale.
>>>
>>> Called The Authorities today about the damage from the truck's load
>>> raining
>>> onto the car, and basically we are up the creek as far as pursing a
>police
>>> report and insurance claim.  The officer I spoke with this afternoon
>said
>>> the best thing would be to see if DMV will run the license and
>provide the
>>> registered owner, then pursue them in small claims court.  He said
>some
>>> trucking companies (especially the local guys) will settle
>immediately and
>>> write a check, but that is not too common.
>>>
>>> The State Police have an automatic license plate reader system, that
>may
>>> have captured the trucks plates / time / location, so if we can get
>that
>>> record, more evidence for a court case.  State DOT also has various
>>> traffic
>>> cams around, they may have footage as well.  Would be nice to show
>our car
>>> in position behind the truck with turn signal on trying to get out
>and
>>> pass
>>> but being blocked and held in place behind the truck by heavy
>traffic in
>>> the right lane.
>>>
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Max Dillon 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > By semi-trailer truck. SWMBO got behind one, now the front of the
>'95
>>> > sedan is very pitted. She did get the license plate number, we'll
>call
>>> the
>>> > authorities tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath. I only have
>>> liability
>>> > insurance, so we need to make the other party pay, if possible.
>>> > --
>>> > Max Dillon
>>> > Charleston SC
>>> > '87 300TD
>>> > '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT a question

It didn't come from the propo mouthpiece, the warshington compost, so he 
won't believe it.



Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 11, 2016 at 4:51 PMvia Postbox 

hmmm. maybe Andrew can enlighten us on some of the details 
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/you-heard-of-trump-u-but-what-about-clinton-university/article/2593571 



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Re: [MBZ] Alternative Refrigerants?

Hmm.  Good question.  I believe they are but I will check tomorrow.

Dan

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are the fans running in front of the condenser?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 11, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Considering changing the 350SDL over to a hydrocarbon refrigerant.  Freeze 
>> 12 apparently is no longer made or available.  Enviro-Safe looks to be the 
>> main contender in the market.  Are there others?
>> 
>> Any caveats to be aware of using a “test” refrigerant?
>> 
>> My biggest complaint at present is the system has been converted to R134a 
>> and performs OK at speed, but if you come to a stop and are idling it’s not 
>> efficient and the vent temperatures drop off noticeably. The system is 
>> charged with the correct amount of R134a and the pressures are correct for 
>> that refrigerant.  Personally, I don’t think the (original) condenser is big 
>> enough or the correct type for the system.
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Alternative Refrigerants?

2016-06-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Are the fans running in front of the condenser?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Considering changing the 350SDL over to a hydrocarbon refrigerant.  Freeze 12 
> apparently is no longer made or available.  Enviro-Safe looks to be the main 
> contender in the market.  Are there others?
> 
> Any caveats to be aware of using a “test” refrigerant?
> 
> My biggest complaint at present is the system has been converted to R134a and 
> performs OK at speed, but if you come to a stop and are idling it’s not 
> efficient and the vent temperatures drop off noticeably. The system is 
> charged with the correct amount of R134a and the pressures are correct for 
> that refrigerant.  Personally, I don’t think the (original) condenser is big 
> enough or the correct type for the system.
> 
> ?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Alternative Refrigerants?

2016-06-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes


Have you tried?

autorefrigerants.com
123 Lakeshore Dr.,
Lachine, MI 49753
800-524-5987

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Alternative Refrigerants?


Considering changing the 350SDL over to a hydrocarbon refrigerant.  Freeze 
12 apparently is no longer made or available.  Enviro-Safe looks to be the 
main contender in the market.  Are there others?


Any caveats to be aware of using a “test” refrigerant?

My biggest complaint at present is the system has been converted to R134a 
and performs OK at speed, but if you come to a stop and are idling it’s 
not efficient and the vent temperatures drop off noticeably. The system is 
charged with the correct amount of R134a and the pressures are correct for 
that refrigerant.  Personally, I don’t think the (original) condenser is 
big enough or the correct type for the system.


?


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Re: [MBZ] Sand blasting

Additive thought..
Here, all dump truck loads must be tarp covered. Most of them now have
signs on the back that say "Stay back 500 ft." also.

Arizona used to be the land of construction [pre 2008 housing crash] and
held the record for broken windshields and damage from debris blowing /
falling off trucks. Laws were passed.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 3:49 PM, G Mann  wrote:

> Once you receive the camera, you will find there is a focus feature that
> lets you easily zoom in close focus and read and record license plate
> details.
>
> Also.. remember there is a microphone built into the camera.. it records
> anything spoken. So be careful what you say on cam [ I'm gonna kill that 
> s@)#($*$%*%
> might not play well in court]. However if you make verbal comments that are
> pertinent to the event it might play well in court..
>
> It's your decision. From my recent experience.. I suggest you take extra
> care to ensure the time/date stamp is correct.. and, the camera has a place
> to plug in GPS input.. so if you have a GPS, it can overlay exact location,
> speed, etc.. [again.. it could hang you in court as well as save you, you
> decide].
>
> Good luck, and safe motoring..
>
>
> 
> Virus-free
> 
> <#m_4729576741510973765_DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Just ordered this from Amazon: Black Box G1W-CB "Black Bezel" Capacitor
>> Model Dashboard Dash Cam - Heat Resistant - Full HD 1080P H.264 2.7" LCD
>> Car DVR Camera Video Recorder - WDR 140° Wide Angle 4x Zoom with Motion
>> Detection Night Vision G-Sensor - NT96650 + AR0330
>>
>> Should have had this in SWMBO's car last night.  If we like it, I'll
>> probably get a second for The White Whale.
>>
>> Called The Authorities today about the damage from the truck's load
>> raining
>> onto the car, and basically we are up the creek as far as pursing a police
>> report and insurance claim.  The officer I spoke with this afternoon said
>> the best thing would be to see if DMV will run the license and provide the
>> registered owner, then pursue them in small claims court.  He said some
>> trucking companies (especially the local guys) will settle immediately and
>> write a check, but that is not too common.
>>
>> The State Police have an automatic license plate reader system, that may
>> have captured the trucks plates / time / location, so if we can get that
>> record, more evidence for a court case.  State DOT also has various
>> traffic
>> cams around, they may have footage as well.  Would be nice to show our car
>> in position behind the truck with turn signal on trying to get out and
>> pass
>> but being blocked and held in place behind the truck by heavy traffic in
>> the right lane.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Max Dillon 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > By semi-trailer truck. SWMBO got behind one, now the front of the '95
>> > sedan is very pitted. She did get the license plate number, we'll call
>> the
>> > authorities tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath. I only have
>> liability
>> > insurance, so we need to make the other party pay, if possible.
>> > --
>> > Max Dillon
>> > Charleston SC
>> > '87 300TD
>> > '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Sand blasting

Once you receive the camera, you will find there is a focus feature that
lets you easily zoom in close focus and read and record license plate
details.

Also.. remember there is a microphone built into the camera.. it records
anything spoken. So be careful what you say on cam [ I'm gonna kill
that s@)#($*$%*%
might not play well in court]. However if you make verbal comments that are
pertinent to the event it might play well in court..

It's your decision. From my recent experience.. I suggest you take extra
care to ensure the time/date stamp is correct.. and, the camera has a place
to plug in GPS input.. so if you have a GPS, it can overlay exact location,
speed, etc.. [again.. it could hang you in court as well as save you, you
decide].

Good luck, and safe motoring..


Virus-free

<#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just ordered this from Amazon: Black Box G1W-CB "Black Bezel" Capacitor
> Model Dashboard Dash Cam - Heat Resistant - Full HD 1080P H.264 2.7" LCD
> Car DVR Camera Video Recorder - WDR 140° Wide Angle 4x Zoom with Motion
> Detection Night Vision G-Sensor - NT96650 + AR0330
>
> Should have had this in SWMBO's car last night.  If we like it, I'll
> probably get a second for The White Whale.
>
> Called The Authorities today about the damage from the truck's load raining
> onto the car, and basically we are up the creek as far as pursing a police
> report and insurance claim.  The officer I spoke with this afternoon said
> the best thing would be to see if DMV will run the license and provide the
> registered owner, then pursue them in small claims court.  He said some
> trucking companies (especially the local guys) will settle immediately and
> write a check, but that is not too common.
>
> The State Police have an automatic license plate reader system, that may
> have captured the trucks plates / time / location, so if we can get that
> record, more evidence for a court case.  State DOT also has various traffic
> cams around, they may have footage as well.  Would be nice to show our car
> in position behind the truck with turn signal on trying to get out and pass
> but being blocked and held in place behind the truck by heavy traffic in
> the right lane.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Max Dillon  wrote:
>
> > By semi-trailer truck. SWMBO got behind one, now the front of the '95
> > sedan is very pitted. She did get the license plate number, we'll call
> the
> > authorities tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath. I only have
> liability
> > insurance, so we need to make the other party pay, if possible.
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Alternative Refrigerants?

Reading the Enviro-Safe instructions, looks like a smaller charge is
required compared to R134a.  I'd go slow with charging, measuring the vent
temperatures, until I was getting about 40 deg F or so (but don't go too
much lower or risk freezing up the evaporator).

I've got a few cans that I plan to install in The White Whale, just need to
get a round tuit and I'll be all set.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Considering changing the 350SDL over to a hydrocarbon refrigerant.  Freeze
> 12 apparently is no longer made or available.  Enviro-Safe looks to be the
> main contender in the market.  Are there others?
>
> Any caveats to be aware of using a “test” refrigerant?
>
> My biggest complaint at present is the system has been converted to R134a
> and performs OK at speed, but if you come to a stop and are idling it’s not
> efficient and the vent temperatures drop off noticeably. The system is
> charged with the correct amount of R134a and the pressures are correct for
> that refrigerant.  Personally, I don’t think the (original) condenser is
> big enough or the correct type for the system.
>
> ?
>
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT a question

You guys are obviously just mouthpieces for the vast right-wing conspiracy,
repeating the talking points issued by Rush Limbaugh and Fox News

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> hmmm. maybe Andrew can enlighten us on some of the details
> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/you-heard-of-trump-u-but-what-about-clinton-university/article/2593571
>
> --JC
>
>
> On 6/11/16 9:31 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On June 11, 2016 at 8:56 AM Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You are saying that is not true? Details please, I want to know. I
>>> endeavor to be accurate.
>>>
>>>
>> Is this what you're talking about?
>>
>>
>> Inside Higher Education reported <
>> https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2015/08/03/laureate-paid-bill-clinton-165-million>
>> that Laureate Education paid Bill Clinton an obscene $16.5 million between
>> 2010 and 2014 to serve as an honorary chancellor for Laureate International
>> Universities. While Bill Clinton worked as the group’s pitchman, the State
>> Department funneled $55 million to Laureate when Hillary Clinton was
>> secretary of state. That would seem a pretty major story but virtually no
>> mainstream media outlet has reported it while running hundreds of stories
>> on the Trump University scandal.
>>
>>
>> Bloomberg backs up the 16.5 mil payments to Bill Clinton.
>>
>>
>> http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-31/hillary-and-bill-clinton-paid-43-million-in-federal-taxes
>>
>>
>> MSM has been silent on the State Department's alleged $55 mil, as far as
>> I can see.
>>
>> If it's real, like the Holder-Obama Fast and Furious  "guns for Sinaloa
>> Cartel" scheme, it'll be relegated to the blogosphere until the story
>> becomes too big to ignore, then the MSM will trot out the tired excuses.
>>
>>
>> Mitch.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[MBZ] Alternative Refrigerants?

Considering changing the 350SDL over to a hydrocarbon refrigerant.  Freeze 12 
apparently is no longer made or available.  Enviro-Safe looks to be the main 
contender in the market.  Are there others?

Any caveats to be aware of using a “test” refrigerant?

My biggest complaint at present is the system has been converted to R134a and 
performs OK at speed, but if you come to a stop and are idling it’s not 
efficient and the vent temperatures drop off noticeably. The system is charged 
with the correct amount of R134a and the pressures are correct for that 
refrigerant.  Personally, I don’t think the (original) condenser is big enough 
or the correct type for the system.

?


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT a question

hmmm. maybe Andrew can enlighten us on some of the details
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/you-heard-of-trump-u-but-what-about-clinton-university/article/2593571

--JC

On 6/11/16 9:31 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On June 11, 2016 at 8:56 AM Joel Cairo via Mercedes
wrote:

You are saying that is not true? Details please, I want to know. I
endeavor to be accurate.

Is this what you're talking about?

Inside Higher Education reported

that Laureate Education paid Bill Clinton an obscene $16.5 million
between 2010 and 2014 to serve as an honorary chancellor for Laureate
International Universities. While Bill Clinton worked as the group’s
pitchman, the State Department funneled $55 million to Laureate when
Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. That would seem a pretty major
story but virtually no mainstream media outlet has reported it while
running hundreds of stories on the Trump University scandal.

Bloomberg backs up the 16.5 mil payments to Bill Clinton.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-31/hillary-and-bill-clinton-paid-43-million-in-federal-taxes

MSM has been silent on the State Department's alleged $55 mil, as far
as I can see.

If it's real, like the Holder-Obama Fast and Furious "guns for
Sinaloa Cartel" scheme, it'll be relegated to the blogosphere until
the story becomes too big to ignore, then the MSM will trot out the
tired excuses.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

2016-06-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Movie star practice? (grin)

How about leasing a car while in a residency?
Why would a resident need to keep up appearances?

Gerry...retired lab rat
~~~
Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> I've been a doctor for about 18 years now and I drove a Volvo 240 wagon for
> the first few years, and an 85 300td since then. Paid cash for both of
> them. Not sure which was the better car, actually.
> 
> No way would I put someone on a resident salary or paying medical school
> tuition into a car payment. That's unwise. Getting out from under the
> mandatory educational debt is hard enough without adding gratuitous debt
> unnecessarily, especially if he sets up shop in any major metro area
> eventually. Save the cash for a condo or house downpayment, and buy him a
> lightly used plain jane Nissan sentra with a 5 speed.
> On Jun 10, 2016 7:41 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
> > Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish and keep
> > up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing around with cars,
> > unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille now, which I offered back to
> > the girl child, but she informed me she prefers to keep the 84 SD even with
> > temperamental windows and no AC.  THAT is my girl!
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.
> >>
> >> Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
> >> On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
> >>> them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice or
> >>> snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are
> >>> rock
> >>> solid.
> >>>
> >>> there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
> >>> filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
> >>> completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering is
> >>> certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
> >>> wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)
> >>>
> >>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> >>>
>  June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <
> 
>  https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=sumlink&utm_campaign=reach
>  I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
>  lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
>  to drive for 14 hours.
>  Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
>  The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
>  in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
>  The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.
> 
>  Rick
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>  June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <
> 
>  https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=sumlink&utm_campaign=reach
>  Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.
>  He
>  rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda
>  CRV
>  the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger
>  and a
>  bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and
>  safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to
>  them,
>  it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
>  totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some
>  years
>  ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.
> 
>  I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car
>  (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to
>  avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we
>  can
>  pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.
> 
>  --R
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  June 10, 2016 at 8:37 AMvia Postbox <
> 
>  https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=sumlink&utm_campaign=reach
>  Rich inquires:
> 
>  The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD
> 
> > given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
> > car.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>  I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.
> 
>  The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.
> 
>  The Hyundai was an exceptio

Re: [MBZ] Sand blasting

2016-06-11 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

This truck was observed traveling from North Chuck to Mount Plastic, so maybe 
hauling waste away from the new rail yard.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 11, 2016 4:51:06 PM EDT, Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Same cam I have, works nicely.
>
>There has been a lot of problems lately with dump trucks hauling fill 
>over to the Navy base I think for the new port facility -- speeding, 
>stuff blowing out, etc.  Is that what it was you think?
>
>--JC
>
>
>On 6/11/16 4:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just ordered this from Amazon: Black Box G1W-CB "Black Bezel"
>Capacitor
>> Model Dashboard Dash Cam - Heat Resistant - Full HD 1080P H.264 2.7"
>LCD
>> Car DVR Camera Video Recorder - WDR 140° Wide Angle 4x Zoom with
>Motion
>> Detection Night Vision G-Sensor - NT96650 + AR0330
>>
>> Should have had this in SWMBO's car last night.  If we like it, I'll
>> probably get a second for The White Whale.
>>
>> Called The Authorities today about the damage from the truck's load
>raining
>> onto the car, and basically we are up the creek as far as pursing a
>police
>> report and insurance claim.  The officer I spoke with this afternoon
>said
>> the best thing would be to see if DMV will run the license and
>provide the
>> registered owner, then pursue them in small claims court.  He said
>some
>> trucking companies (especially the local guys) will settle
>immediately and
>> write a check, but that is not too common.
>>
>> The State Police have an automatic license plate reader system, that
>may
>> have captured the trucks plates / time / location, so if we can get
>that
>> record, more evidence for a court case.  State DOT also has various
>traffic
>> cams around, they may have footage as well.  Would be nice to show
>our car
>> in position behind the truck with turn signal on trying to get out
>and pass
>> but being blocked and held in place behind the truck by heavy traffic
>in
>> the right lane.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Max Dillon 
>wrote:
>>
>>> By semi-trailer truck. SWMBO got behind one, now the front of the
>'95
>>> sedan is very pitted. She did get the license plate number, we'll
>call the
>>> authorities tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath. I only have
>liability
>>> insurance, so we need to make the other party pay, if possible.
>>> --
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

You are pretty much correct but this is his deal now so he can figure it 
out.  The key issue is he just doesn't want to screw with a car so 
something newer will probably be less of a headache.  One hopes.


Interestingly enough residents' salaries are pretty decent now (as 
opposed to when my wife went through that), and he lives pretty cheaply 
so he has run the numbers for what he is comfortable with and continues 
to be focused on paying down his loans so that is good.


--R


On 6/11/16 12:28 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:


I've been a doctor for about 18 years now and I drove a Volvo 240 
wagon for the first few years, and an 85 300td since then. Paid cash 
for both of them. Not sure which was the better car, actually.


No way would I put someone on a resident salary or paying medical 
school tuition into a car payment. That's unwise. Getting out from 
under the mandatory educational debt is hard enough without adding 
gratuitous debt unnecessarily, especially if he sets up shop in any 
major metro area eventually. Save the cash for a condo or house 
downpayment, and buy him a lightly used plain jane Nissan sentra with 
a 5 speed.


On Jun 10, 2016 7:41 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish
and keep up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing
around with cars, unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille
now, which I offered back to the girl child, but she informed me
she prefers to keep the 84 SD even with temperamental windows and
no AC.  THAT is my girl!

--R


On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his
price range.

Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes"
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
wrote:

i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that
sends a lot of
them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering
driving on ice or
snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right
tars, they are rock
solid.

there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the
ditches are
filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on
the side or
completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but
twitchy steering is
certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and
design (short
wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)

Rick Knoble via Mercedes >

June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <

https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=sumlink&utm_campaign=reach
I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
to drive for 14 hours.
Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast
steering ratios.
The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.

Rick
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June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <

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Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a
variety of SUVs.  He
rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and
liked the Hunda CRV
the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which
is a bit larger and a
bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for
the larger mass and
safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid
much attention to them,
it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the
hundays too, was not
totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall
renting one some years
ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords,
interesting.

I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to
find a suthrun car

Re: [MBZ] Sand blasting


Same cam I have, works nicely.

There has been a lot of problems lately with dump trucks hauling fill 
over to the Navy base I think for the new port facility -- speeding, 
stuff blowing out, etc.  Is that what it was you think?


--JC


On 6/11/16 4:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Just ordered this from Amazon: Black Box G1W-CB "Black Bezel" Capacitor
Model Dashboard Dash Cam - Heat Resistant - Full HD 1080P H.264 2.7" LCD
Car DVR Camera Video Recorder - WDR 140° Wide Angle 4x Zoom with Motion
Detection Night Vision G-Sensor - NT96650 + AR0330

Should have had this in SWMBO's car last night.  If we like it, I'll
probably get a second for The White Whale.

Called The Authorities today about the damage from the truck's load raining
onto the car, and basically we are up the creek as far as pursing a police
report and insurance claim.  The officer I spoke with this afternoon said
the best thing would be to see if DMV will run the license and provide the
registered owner, then pursue them in small claims court.  He said some
trucking companies (especially the local guys) will settle immediately and
write a check, but that is not too common.

The State Police have an automatic license plate reader system, that may
have captured the trucks plates / time / location, so if we can get that
record, more evidence for a court case.  State DOT also has various traffic
cams around, they may have footage as well.  Would be nice to show our car
in position behind the truck with turn signal on trying to get out and pass
but being blocked and held in place behind the truck by heavy traffic in
the right lane.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Max Dillon  wrote:


By semi-trailer truck. SWMBO got behind one, now the front of the '95
sedan is very pitted. She did get the license plate number, we'll call the
authorities tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath. I only have liability
insurance, so we need to make the other party pay, if possible.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

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Re: [MBZ] Sand blasting

Just ordered this from Amazon: Black Box G1W-CB "Black Bezel" Capacitor
Model Dashboard Dash Cam - Heat Resistant - Full HD 1080P H.264 2.7" LCD
Car DVR Camera Video Recorder - WDR 140° Wide Angle 4x Zoom with Motion
Detection Night Vision G-Sensor - NT96650 + AR0330

Should have had this in SWMBO's car last night.  If we like it, I'll
probably get a second for The White Whale.

Called The Authorities today about the damage from the truck's load raining
onto the car, and basically we are up the creek as far as pursing a police
report and insurance claim.  The officer I spoke with this afternoon said
the best thing would be to see if DMV will run the license and provide the
registered owner, then pursue them in small claims court.  He said some
trucking companies (especially the local guys) will settle immediately and
write a check, but that is not too common.

The State Police have an automatic license plate reader system, that may
have captured the trucks plates / time / location, so if we can get that
record, more evidence for a court case.  State DOT also has various traffic
cams around, they may have footage as well.  Would be nice to show our car
in position behind the truck with turn signal on trying to get out and pass
but being blocked and held in place behind the truck by heavy traffic in
the right lane.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Max Dillon  wrote:

> By semi-trailer truck. SWMBO got behind one, now the front of the '95
> sedan is very pitted. She did get the license plate number, we'll call the
> authorities tomorrow, but I'm not holding my breath. I only have liability
> insurance, so we need to make the other party pay, if possible.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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[MBZ] Rick's new Trek pix

Here's a link to some pictures that Rick sent me.  Enjoy!

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxk8a928B3RxUnVramNxTG9aVFU


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Re: [MBZ] 1990 300D - SOLD!

Thanks, Kevin.

I don’t think it would have been a money pit, per se, as most of what it needed 
was little stuff.  Granted, the little stuff can add up quickly, but to sort 
out the windows, radio and seat adjusters would have probably taken a couple 
hundred bucks, tops.

I was more concerned about the integrity of the engine.  It was wonky enough as 
far as the cooling system and things that were going on there that I had no 
confidence whatsoever in its longevity.  Since I was looking for something I 
could sort out and give to my oldest son for reliable transportation I just 
wasn’t comfortable in that regard, so I felt it was best to pass it along to 
the next owner.

Maybe it is fine, maybe not.  I didn’t want to roll the dice to find out.  Had 
I not been in a hurry and done my due diligence when I inspected the car I 
wouldn’t have bought it in the first place.  Hence, lesson learned.

Dan

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 2:18 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm glad to hear that you got out from under that thing. It sounded like it 
> was a potential money pit.
> Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
> 
> Sent from my cell   
> 

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Re: [MBZ] 1990 300D - SOLD!

2016-06-11 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

I'm glad to hear that you got out from under that thing. It sounded like it was 
a potential money pit.
Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

Sent from my cell   

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 9:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sold the 1990 300D.  Just too many questions regarding the integrity of the 
> engine.  Bought for $650, put oil, filter and fuel filters on it, sold it for 
> $800 to the first CL buyer who showed up.
> 
> Can’t say I made money, but I probably broke even.  Lesson learned.  Just 
> glad I was able to get rid of it.
> 
> I’m done with project cars for the oldest boy for now.  Going to focus on 
> some stuff with the 350SDL before I take on any (new) major projects.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

ATTABOY !!

hahahahaha.. Good one..

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:00 AM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:

> That reminds me:  I've never been a doctor, but my signature now looks
> like I went to medical school.   ;<))
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" 
> Cc: "Karl Wittnebel" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise
>
>
> I've been a doctor for about 18 years now and I drove a Volvo 240 wagon for
>> the first few years, and an 85 300td since then. Paid cash for both of
>> them. Not sure which was the better car, actually.
>>
>> No way would I put someone on a resident salary or paying medical school
>> tuition into a car payment. That's unwise. Getting out from under the
>> mandatory educational debt is hard enough without adding gratuitous debt
>> unnecessarily, especially if he sets up shop in any major metro area
>> eventually. Save the cash for a condo or house downpayment, and buy him a
>> lightly used plain jane Nissan sentra with a 5 speed.
>> On Jun 10, 2016 7:41 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish and keep
>>> up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing around with cars,
>>> unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille now, which I offered back to
>>> the girl child, but she informed me she prefers to keep the 84 SD even
>>> with
>>> temperamental windows and no AC.  THAT is my girl!
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.

 Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
 On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

 i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of

> them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice
> or
> snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are
> rock
> solid.
>
> there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
> filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
> completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering
> is
> certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
> wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>
> June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <
>>
>>
>> https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=sumlink&utm_campaign=reach
>> I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
>> lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
>> to drive for 14 hours.
>> Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
>> The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
>> in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
>> The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.
>>
>> Rick
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>> Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
>> June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <
>>
>>
>> https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=sumlink&utm_campaign=reach
>> Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.
>> He
>> rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda
>> CRV
>> the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger
>> and a
>> bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass
>> and
>> safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to
>> them,
>> it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
>> totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some
>> years
>> ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.
>>
>> I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun
>> car
>> (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals)
>> to
>> avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we
>> can
>> pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> June 10, 2016 at 8:37 AMvia Postbox <
>>
>>
>> https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=sumlink&utm_campaign=reach
>> Rich inquires:
>>
>> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thin

Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

2016-06-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

That reminds me:  I've never been a doctor, but my signature now looks like 
I went to medical school.   ;<))

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes" 

To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" 
Cc: "Karl Wittnebel" 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

I've been a doctor for about 18 years now and I drove a Volvo 240 wagon 
for

the first few years, and an 85 300td since then. Paid cash for both of
them. Not sure which was the better car, actually.

No way would I put someone on a resident salary or paying medical school
tuition into a car payment. That's unwise. Getting out from under the
mandatory educational debt is hard enough without adding gratuitous debt
unnecessarily, especially if he sets up shop in any major metro area
eventually. Save the cash for a condo or house downpayment, and buy him a
lightly used plain jane Nissan sentra with a 5 speed.
On Jun 10, 2016 7:41 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" 
wrote:

Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish and keep
up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing around with cars,
unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille now, which I offered back to
the girl child, but she informed me she prefers to keep the 84 SD even 
with

temperamental windows and no AC.  THAT is my girl!

--R

On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.

Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice 
or

snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are
rock
solid.

there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering 
is

certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)

Rick Knoble via Mercedes 

June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <

https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=sumlink&utm_campaign=reach
I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
to drive for 14 hours.
Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.

Rick
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Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 10, 2016 at 8:47 AMvia Postbox <

https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=sumlink&utm_campaign=reach
Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.
He
rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda
CRV
the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger
and a
bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass 
and

safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to
them,
it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some
years
ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.

I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun 
car
(a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) 
to

avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we
can
pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.

--R

Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
June 10, 2016 at 8:37 AMvia Postbox <

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Rich inquires:

The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD

given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a 
little

car.

Thoughts?

I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.

The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.

The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
type appliance.

Rick
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Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
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[MBZ] 1990 300D - SOLD!

Sold the 1990 300D.  Just too many questions regarding the integrity of the 
engine.  Bought for $650, put oil, filter and fuel filters on it, sold it for 
$800 to the first CL buyer who showed up.

Can’t say I made money, but I probably broke even.  Lesson learned.  Just glad 
I was able to get rid of it.

I’m done with project cars for the oldest boy for now.  Going to focus on some 
stuff with the 350SDL before I take on any (new) major projects.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

2016-06-11 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

I've been a doctor for about 18 years now and I drove a Volvo 240 wagon for
the first few years, and an 85 300td since then. Paid cash for both of
them. Not sure which was the better car, actually.

No way would I put someone on a resident salary or paying medical school
tuition into a car payment. That's unwise. Getting out from under the
mandatory educational debt is hard enough without adding gratuitous debt
unnecessarily, especially if he sets up shop in any major metro area
eventually. Save the cash for a condo or house downpayment, and buy him a
lightly used plain jane Nissan sentra with a 5 speed.
On Jun 10, 2016 7:41 PM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Well yeah, but as an aspiring young doctor he needs to establish and keep
> up appearances.  Plus he has no interest in screwing around with cars,
> unfortunately.  He is driving the 98 DeVille now, which I offered back to
> the girl child, but she informed me she prefers to keep the 84 SD even with
> temperamental windows and no AC.  THAT is my girl!
>
> --R
>
>
> On 6/10/16 5:16 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> First tell him that any car he has to finance is out of his price range.
>>
>> Then tell him to find a nice Volvo 240.
>> On Jun 10, 2016 8:07 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> i noticed that about the pathfinder too.  I am sure that sends a lot of
>>> them into the ditches.  You don't want twitchy steering driving on ice or
>>> snow.  I'll take a 110 or 111 for that.  with the right tars, they are
>>> rock
>>> solid.
>>>
>>> there are reasons why every time a little snow falls, the ditches are
>>> filled with "SUV"s and a high number are upside down, on the side or
>>> completely rolled over.  Operator error for sure, but twitchy steering is
>>> certainly a contributing factor, along with tars, and design (short
>>> wheelbase, high center of gravity and twitchy steering)
>>>
>>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>
 June 10, 2016 at 9:19 AMvia Postbox <

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 I didn't hate it. The Sante Fe had an adjustable
 lumbar support, which made it WAY more pleasant
 to drive for 14 hours.
 Both cars were "twitchy", meaning they have fast steering ratios.
 The Jeep had superior electronics, streaming bluetooth
 in that car was very easy and worked exceptionally well.
 The Hyundai was a little buggy, in that regard.

 Rick
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 Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
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 Thanks.  He went to the local Carmax and looked at a variety of SUVs.
 He
 rated them all on a list (how organized is that?) and liked the Hunda
 CRV
 the best, but also liked the Nissan Pathfinder which is a bit larger
 and a
 bit more $$.  I was suggesting the Nissan, just for the larger mass and
 safety.  I saw a CRV yesterday morning, never paid much attention to
 them,
 it was nice but looked small.  He looked at the hundays too, was not
 totally impressed compared to the others.  I recall renting one some
 years
 ago, thought it was OK too.  He also liked some Fords, interesting.

 I'm going to look at some of them around here, try to find a suthrun car
 (a lot of them seem to be from NY for some reason, leases or rentals) to
 avoid the road salt issue.  He will get his financing organized so we
 can
 pull the trigger when I find something, he can come here and get it.

 --R

 Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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 Rich inquires:

 The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD

> given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little
> car.
>
> Thoughts?
 I recently rented a Jeep Compass, and a Hyundai Santa Fe.

 The Jeep was uncomfortable on a long trip.

 The Hyundai was an exceptionally good appliance.
 Quite comfortable. Great fuel mileage. I would
 recommend it, if one is looking for a smaller SUV
 type appliance.

 Rick
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[MBZ] OT for sale

I have a brand new pickup toolbox, but no pickup.  Not even a big 
trailer like Kleb to use it.  Been trying to sell it locally on CL but 
no luck  so if anyone here knows someone who needs a pickup toolbox, 
please pass this on to them.


A Brand New DeeZee pickup truck toolbox. New in the sealed box from the 
factory. No potmetal lock. Made so you can use a strong padlock on it, 
and you can even get one keyed to match your truck! It is a shiny silver 
treadplate outside with a single lid. The stronger black label DeeZee 
boxes are 20% thicker than the DeeZee red label box and most of the 
boxes on the market. This box retails for $625 SAVE $225!   Will sell 
for $400 obo.   Fits Chevy/GMC, Ford or Ram pickup trucks. I only have 
one available! Get it now!


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Installation instructions: 
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Re: [MBZ] Starting Wilton's wrecked 124 300D

With car-part.com you can often get a starter or alt for close to the 
u-pull price, but don't need to waste your time and the part is 
delivered to your door.  Since for your plan you will need a starter 
anyway, if the original can't be resurrected, you will need another starter.



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
June 11, 2016 at 9:55 AMvia Postbox 


That's a thought. I'm thinking about a visit to local LKQ to see if I can
get a compatible starter, which I could then keep as a spare.

Long term plan for the engine / drivetrain is transplant into a '95 124
wagon, replacing the gasser with a real engine.

-
Max
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] Starting Wilton's wrecked 124 300D

That's a thought.  I'm thinking about a visit to local LKQ to see if I can
get a compatible starter, which I could then keep as a spare.

Long term plan for the engine / drivetrain is transplant into a '95 124
wagon, replacing the gasser with a real engine.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If the starter is fubar, you might try car-part.com for a used one.  I
> got one there for $25.  To me, that is  cheap enough that i would not pull
> a starter from a working car.   The bonus is that you will be able to sell
> the engine for more $$$ AND you can end up with a spare on the shelf, or
> sell it with the engine for an extra $50
>
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> June 11, 2016 at 8:40 AM<
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>> >
>>
>> If no repair is possible, I'll consider swapping the starter from my wagon
>> into the sedan, but the cost / benefit analysis to this exercise is
>> becoming a consideration. If I had a spare starter on the shelf...
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Starting Wilton's wrecked 124 300D

If the starter is fubar, you might try car-part.com for a used one.  I 
got one there for $25.  To me, that is  cheap enough that i would not 
pull a starter from a working car.   The bonus is that you will be able 
to sell the engine for more $$$ AND you can end up with a spare on the 
shelf, or sell it with the engine for an extra $50



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
June 11, 2016 at 8:40 
AM


If no repair is possible, I'll consider swapping the starter from my wagon
into the sedan, but the cost / benefit analysis to this exercise is
becoming a consideration. If I had a spare starter on the shelf...

-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Starting Wilton's wrecked 124 300D

2016-06-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

I suspect that impact shifted something that interrupts normal electric path 
and/or mechanically prevents rotation.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Starting Wilton's wrecked 124 300D

I'm going to try Kaleb's idea first, and try jumping it directly from the
battery, see if it will spin with no solenoid engagement and then see if
12.5 VDC directly to the solenoid will kick it over.

If that fails, then I'll pull the starter, take it apart and see what's
going on.  Maybe it can be revived.

If no repair is possible, I'll consider swapping the starter from my wagon
into the sedan, but the cost / benefit analysis to this exercise is
becoming a consideration.  If I had a spare starter on the shelf...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Seized starter is one failure mode -- happened to me.  Solenoid would 
work

(you could hear it engage) but starter was locked up.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Starting Wilton's wrecked 124 300D

I'm going to try Kaleb's idea first, and try jumping it directly from the
battery, see if it will spin with no solenoid engagement and then see if
12.5 VDC directly to the solenoid will kick it over.

If that fails, then I'll pull the starter, take it apart and see what's
going on.  Maybe it can be revived.

If no repair is possible, I'll consider swapping the starter from my wagon
into the sedan, but the cost / benefit analysis to this exercise is
becoming a consideration.  If I had a spare starter on the shelf...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Seized starter is one failure mode -- happened to me.  Solenoid would work
> (you could hear it engage) but starter was locked up.
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT a question

2016-06-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


On June 11, 2016 at 8:56 AM Joel Cairo via Mercedes  wrote:You are saying that is not true? Details please, I want to know. I endeavor to be accurate.Is this what you're talking about? Inside Higher Education reported that Laureate Education paid Bill Clinton an obscene $16.5 million between 2010 and 2014 to serve as an honorary chancellor for Laureate International Universities. While Bill Clinton worked as the group’s pitchman, the State Department funneled $55 million to Laureate when Hillary Clinton was secretary of state. That would seem a pretty major story but virtually no mainstream media outlet has reported it while running hundreds of stories on the Trump University scandal.Bloomberg backs up the 16.5 mil payments to Bill Clinton.http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-31/hillary-and-bill-clinton-paid-43-million-in-federal-taxesMSM has been silent on the State Department's alleged $55 mil, as far as I can see. If it's real, like the Holder-Obama Fast and Furious  "guns for Sinaloa Cartel" scheme, it'll be relegated to the blogosphere until the story becomes too big to ignore, then the MSM will trot out the tired excuses. Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT a question

You are saying that is not true?  Details please, I want to know.  I 
endeavor to be accurate.


--JC


On 6/10/16 11:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Not to mention, great fiction!

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


The chattering class is all atwitter over the Trump U deal,
whatever it is, but don't seem to be following the Klinton Krime
Family deal whereby a diploma mill paid him $16.5mil for 4 years
of being a "chancellor" while his wife's outfit paid the diploma
mill $55mil for her peeps to get "degrees."

Great deal if you can get in on it.

--JC



On 6/10/16 7:57 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

so all the west coast and it seems a good part of the country
is all atwitter that this stanford kid got a light sentence.

Meanwhile, a serial rapist walks free, delivering "speeches"
so memorable nobody records them, and rakes in millions for
selling state secrets, with his dear wifey, hands out millions
of taxpayer dollars, of which about 30% are paid to him, and
outside of a couple guys on the radio, nothing is said.  No
demand that he be prosecuted from the "caring" public, no
arrest, nobody atwitter, only crickets.

Double standard?  Hypocrites?  why the disparity?

Meanwhile, another man who is accused of being a serial rapist
faces multiple trials.

Double standard?  Hypocrites?  why the disparity?

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Re: [MBZ] Starting Wilton's wrecked 124 300D

2016-06-11 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Seized starter is one failure mode -- happened to me.  Solenoid would  
work (you could hear it engage) but starter was locked up.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Question about zinc oil additive.

2016-06-11 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Use Truck and Turbo Diesel.  It meets all the requirements, we've been  
using it for a long, long time.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] safari trek