Re: [MBZ] Flex Disk Question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Sorry for those of you fake buch haters, but I can't find it anywhere 
else.  It is so good, I posted it anyway.  Truth (sometimes ) hurts.  
But it is always best.


https://www.facebook.com/subjectpolitics/videos/1706822272868659/

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Re: [MBZ] Flex Disk Question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

A "gu nn con trol"  parody from Hendrik:


DISARMAMENT: By Ralph Blewitt.
Make yourself a cuppa, sit back, and have a laugh.
The Turnbull government has just announced a Knife Buy Back if it wins 
the July 2nd election.
Malcolm Turnbull stuttering as he said, it would funded by the sale of 
.die.Bank.
He went on to say that nail clippers, hairdressing scissors would be 
exempted.

Providing they where stored in a locked steel safe type box when not in use.
A parliamentary committee would be established to determine the amount 
to be paid for the various weights and types of knives.
He went on to say that he had bipartisan support from Billy Shorten 
providing one major exemption was allowed that All Politicians be 
allowed to keep a set of backstabber knives,.
The Greens have already said that as it is their custom and practice 
they will object and introduce ammendments and seek to delay the 
introduction of the bill, as it did nothing to save the whales or the 
Great Barrier reef.
SHY said she would support the bill if it includes the kitchen knives in 
manus Island detention center kitchens.
And David Morrison AOTY said once he is declared President he would 
include military Bayonet's.
Dan the man Andrews said he would consult with his masters the Unions at 
the next Trades hall council meeting as it was an OHS issue and unless 
there was some sort kick back from the money raised he said they would 
not be supporting the bill.
Paul Keating said he never expected that floating the dollar would see 
the ALP supporting an LNP government in banning knives, and went on to 
say such a move could cost the ALP the election.
Julie Bishop said this would have a major impact on her negotiations 
with ISIS as their sleeper terrorists already in Australia as refugees 
would feel they where being unfairly treated if they could no longer 
behead infidels.
Adam Bandt said it would do nothing to help climate change so he would 
not be supporting the bill, unless the government borrowed more to help 
pay for his sex change.
Morrison said that the budget already included offsets for the knife buy 
back and it would create Jobs and Growth.
Ralph Blewitt said their all a waist of oxygen and corrupt lying thieves 
who could not be trusted to walk the family dog.



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Re: [MBZ] Flex Disk Question

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Thanks to Dan, Kaleb, Don, Peter, and Dwight for their first-hand experience
with these bushings.  I think the consensus is the old bushings are probably
fine but could be bad and need to be checked.  So I guess I'll see what mine
look like before ordering any.  Special thanks to Joel for guidance on doing
the actual work.  Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Joel Cairo via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 8:35 PM
> 
> Yes.  Fairly inexpensive as I recall, you will see how worn (if even
> together) it is when you take the old one off.
> 
> On the SD you need to drop the exhaust system, then also drop the back of
> the tranny on a jack, removing the crossmember to let it drop a bit.
> Getting the bolts out and back in the flex disks is a bit of a challenge,
to get
> the holes aligned, then you have to rotate it to get at them.  be sure to
use
> new bolts with blue threadlocker.  I think they are sold separately?
> 
> Be sure to mark the driveshaft at the joint to get the 2 bits to line up
properly
> when you reassemble.  You might want to put scratches in them you can see,
> markers tend to get rubbed off.
> 
> Also buy a bunch of the exhaust donuts, might as well renew those while
> have the exhaust down.  And the front bolts that hold it to the manifold,
> those will likely be buggered too.
> 
> Get the car as high as you can (and as safe as you can) because this is
all done
> looking up.  If you are on the floor, an empty antifreeze jug makes a nice
> pillow.  A helper will be helpful too in disassembly and reassembly, the
bits
> tend to be heavy and a bit awkward.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 6/19/16 7:53 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> > I'm looking for advice from someone that has replaced drive shaft flex
> > disks.
> >
> > For each flex disk there is a driveshaft centering bushing that keeps
> > the driveshaft centered on the yoke.
> >
> > Question: Are these bushings wear items that should be replaced when
> > the flex disks are replaced?
> >
> > Thanks for any insight.
> >
> > Scott
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Re: [MBZ] CD with funky seats

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On June 20, 2016 at 11:18 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes  wrote:I LOVE that color! Wish that it were mine, Rich.Incidentally, I'm within quick-strike range of Andrew's house tonight, didn't somebody want send him some patriot-inspired beer?There's a microbrewery here in Michigan called Liberty Street Brewing Company. (they're on Liberty Street in Plymouth)If you can find it in a specialty shop down there, grab a couple of bottles of Steamy Windows and have a drink with Andy. Or if you want to push the name, they have an IPA they call The American. http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/19163/55884/http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/19163/62993/

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Re: [MBZ] #22 Head

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Toms cat 1

Condition and price?

Fred.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of toms cat1 via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 21 June 2016 01:23
To: mercedes diesel
Cc: toms cat1
Subject: [MBZ] #22 Head

A friend of mine approached me today inquiring if I knew anyone looking for a 
#22 head.  He is in Norwich, CT.  I told him I would pass it along.  If anyone 
has an interest, shoot me an email off list.
tom82b...@gmail.com
Tom Schuch
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Dishwasher

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

You straightened out that drain plumbing, right?  Same time you installed the 
new washer?
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'95 E300

On June 20, 2016 9:14:58 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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>It seems to do a hell of a lot better than the maytag. 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 20, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> So Kaleb, what do you think of your Bosch dishwasher now that you’ve
>had it a little while?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] CD with funky seats

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I LOVE that color!  Wish that it were mine, Rich.

Incidentally, I'm within quick-strike range of Andrew's house tonight, didn't 
somebody want send him some patriot-inspired beer?
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On June 20, 2016 9:13:05 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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>Very unfortunate color combo.
>
>On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Did Max post this one?
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5633874541.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] $950 S320

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Seller of my '99 wagon disclosed that it did some random shifting while cruising at steady speeds, and that his mechanic said it needed a conductor plate. I bought it over the phone, had Rusty ship a conductor plate to his mechanic, and flew out to pick it up. Put 30kmi on it since then with no trans troubles. I'd be more worried about the AC and black paint. It looks like that LWB six that Poos was looking for.Mitch
 

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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Thanks. That's one way I did it with the older versions of Windows, but wasn't 
sure if it would work on Win10.
Gerry
 
Curley McLain wrote:
> Just run G parteD and erase the drive.  THen you can do whatever you 
> want.  (unless there are files you want to save)  move any files you  
> want to save to another drive, then  wipe it out.
> > ~~~
> > What would be the best way to remove Win10 from an HP Pavilion Notebook
> > with: AMD A10-5750 M APU, Radeon HD Graphics, 8 gig ram,
> > AMD V5.09.5343 (64 bit)?
> > I have discs of Parted Magic 5.7, System Rescue 1.6.4, and most Linux 
> > distros that I've used to remove partitions of earlier distros.
> >
> > Win 10 works much better than Win8, but I don't like Microsofts 
> > privacy invasion either. Also, I despise all the "In your face" 
> > advertising that interrupts what you are doing in spite of running 
> > programs that are supposed to stop it.
> >
> > I also use a MacBook, and have Win7 on another PC, but want to put a 
> > Linux distro on this computer after trying out several versions.
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry
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> > I have to ask, WHY?
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> > ‎M$ 10 invades way too much privacy.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Time for Rich/Joel to cash in?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hey!  I always figured livin on the beach at Waimanalo with a blue tarp 
was a good option!Aala park is an open sewer.  The city and county 
pretty much gave it over to the homeless 25 years ago.


Any vagabond in LA could get a $99 ticket and the city would welcome 
them back then.  Maybe the Peoples marxist republlik of Hawaii is 
finally coming to their senses.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 5:33 PM

Check out Honolulu. They have declared war on the homeless.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] How much would you pay for this 240D?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no more than $1200 today.  $750 in a couple weeks


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 8:17 PM
http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5644678464.html


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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Just run G parteD and erase the drive.  THen you can do whatever you 
want.  (unless there are files you want to save)  move any files you  
want to save to another drive, then  wipe it out.



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June 20, 2016 at 6:05 PM
~~~
What would be the best way to remove Win10 from an HP Pavilion Notebook
with: AMD A10-5750 M APU, Radeon HD Graphics, 8 gig ram,
AMD V5.09.5343 (64 bit)?
I have discs of Parted Magic 5.7, System Rescue 1.6.4, and most Linux 
distros that I've used to remove partitions of earlier distros.


Win 10 works much better than Win8, but I don't like Microsofts 
privacy invasion either. Also, I despise all the "In your face" 
advertising that interrupts what you are doing in spite of running 
programs that are supposed to stop it.


I also use a MacBook, and have Win7 on another PC, but want to put a 
Linux distro on this computer after trying out several versions.

Thanks,
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June 20, 2016 at 2:00 PM
Curled sez:


I have to ask, WHY?

Windows Seven, or a Linux distro of your choice would be a much better 
choice of OS, IMHO.

‎M$ 10 invades way too much privacy.

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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

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On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 00:32:56 +
Rick Knoble via Mercedes  wrote:
> Gerry asks:
> >‎What would be the best way to >remove Win10 from an HP >Pavilion Notebook
> DBAN, if it has a normal drive (not SSD).
> 
> ‎http://www.dban.org/
> ‎
> Rick 
~~~
Got it. Thanks,
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[MBZ] #22 Head

[toms cat1 via Mercedes]

A friend of mine approached me today inquiring if I knew anyone looking for a 
#22 head.  He is in Norwich, CT.  I told him I would pass it along.  If anyone 
has an interest, shoot me an email off list.  
tom82b...@gmail.com
Tom Schuch
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[MBZ] How much would you pay for this 240D?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5644678464.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Dishwasher

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It seems to do a hell of a lot better than the maytag. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> So Kaleb, what do you think of your Bosch dishwasher now that you’ve had it a 
> little while?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] CD with funky seats

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Very unfortunate color combo.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
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> Did Max post this one?
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5633874541.html
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Re: [MBZ] Roger

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> > 'Just got a msg from Roger Ellingson.  How he do dat?
> > 
> > Did not open it.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Clothes Irons

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Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:
> I have not read all of the posts on this subject so someone else may 
> have already suggested this.
> My wife is of the opinion that you need one with lots of watts. Lots of 
> heat makes lots of steam and makes the clothes flat with less effort on 
> the part of the operator.
> I do not recall the name of the current one she uses but it has a tank 
> that sits on the floor and feeds the iron via a hose that is enclosed 
> with the cord.
> She loves it.
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due to the weight of its 37.2 ounce water reservoir. The unit is ready to use 3 
minutes after being turned on, and is great for hanging or board ironing.
perfect for long ironing sessions
insulating warm iron mat
anti-scale water filter
Brand   Laurastar
Model   LIFT Pure White
Weight  16 pounds

https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-steam-irons-for-clothes



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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Gerry asks:

>‎What would be the best way to >remove Win10 from an HP >Pavilion Notebook

DBAN, if it has a normal drive (not SSD).


‎http://www.dban.org/
‎
Rick 
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[MBZ] OT - Dishwasher

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So Kaleb, what do you think of your Bosch dishwasher now that you’ve had it a 
little while?

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Time for Rich/Joel to cash in?

[clay via Mercedes]

Local news rag had an article about landlords getting extra greedy recently.  
Instead of increasing rents a bit over time, they are going big time with $1k 
bumps.  Retired nurses who paid $1460/mo are now stuck with $2500.  A bunch of 
other homes and apartments are getting the same bumps.  Home prices are now 
above 2007 values and rising 12% year over year.  Just got a post card from the 
assessor, my place jumped $200k this year.

clay



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> *4. Charleston, South Carolina  *
> 
> White millennials have flocked to Charleston, South Carolina, drawn by the
> boom in the city’s tech sector and its high salaries. So many, in fact,
> that Charleston has, for the first time in six decades, become a
> majority-white city. Unsurprisingly, the real estate developers have
> followed. With the influx of tech workers, along with students from the
> College of Charleston, downtown Charleston has seen median rent prices go
> up more than much larger cities. A one-bedroom can cost $1600, higher than
> in Atlanta or Chicago. House prices have doubled in the past few years, up
> more than $50,000 just in the past year. And like other cities struggling
> with gentrification, the non-white population has suffered the most. In
> some Charleston neighborhoods, nearly half of the African-American
> residents have left, as even in areas riddled by higher crime rates,
> four-bedroom apartments are renting for up to $3000 a month, with students
> snatching them up. Meanwhile, struggling families, many working in
> low-paying food or hospitality services and forced to depend on federal
> help for housing costs, are limited to section-8 housing voucher maximums
> of just $1026 for a three-bedroom. As longtime Charleston resident King
> Grant-Davis told the Charleston City Paper, “Gentrification in itself may
> not be bad, but the part of pricing racial or ethnic groups out, making
> accommodations too expensive for them because of their economic status,
> that’s bad.”
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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Rick Knoble wrote:
> Windows Seven, or a Linux distro of your choice would be a much better choice 
> of OS, IMHO.  
> ‎M$ 10 invades way too much privacy. 
~~~
What would be the best way to remove Win10 from an HP Pavilion Notebook
with: AMD A10-5750 M APU, Radeon HD Graphics, 8 gig ram,
AMD V5.09.5343 (64 bit)?
I have discs of Parted Magic 5.7, System Rescue 1.6.4, and most Linux distros 
that I've used to remove partitions of earlier distros.

Win 10 works much better than Win8, but I don't like Microsofts privacy 
invasion either. Also, I despise all the "In your face" advertising that 
interrupts what you are doing in spite of running programs that are supposed to 
stop it.

I also use a MacBook, and have Win7 on another PC, but want to put a Linux 
distro on this computer after trying out several versions.
Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Try xterm ?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah, I did that.  Typed in terminal.  It said it could not find terminal.
>
> OK Don via Mercedes 
>> June 20, 2016 at 3:29 PM
>> In the latest stable version of Ubuntu, click the icon in the upper left -
>> "search the computer", type term and three choices are offered . . .
>> That's probably the last Linux question I'll be able to offer help with
>> :-)
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>>
>>
>> Curley McLain 
>> June 20, 2016 at 2:52 PM
>> Found the answers for 1 and 2:
>>
>> Step 1: Open Run by Windows+R, enter lusrmgr.msc and hit OK to open Local
>> Users and Groups.
>> Step 2: Open the Users folder, right-click a user and select Rename in
>> the menu.
>> Step 3: Type a new name in the name box.
>>
>> Once the local user editor is open, it looks like the old versions.  Rt
>> click and rename a user or right click and add a new user.
>>
>> Change administrator or guest name in Local Group Policy Editor.
>>
>> If I get more familiar with linux, then that becomes a more viable
>> option.  I was trying to open a terminal window in ubuntu last night, and
>> could not find the way to do that.  It was frustrating, because I have
>> found it before, but it probably was a different version
>>
>> It is a pain in Mac OS10, but it is easy.
>>
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> June 20, 2016 at 2:00 PM
>> Curled sez:
>>
>>
>> I have to ask, WHY?
>>
>> Windows Seven, or a Linux distro of your choice would be a much better
>> choice of OS, IMHO.
>> ‎M$ 10 invades way too much privacy.
>>
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Time for Rich/Joel to cash in?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 19/06/2016 10:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

*4. Charleston, South Carolina  *

White millennials have flocked to Charleston, South Carolina, drawn by the
boom in the city’s tech sector and its high salaries. So many, in fact,
that Charleston has, for the first time in six decades, become a
majority-white city. Unsurprisingly, the real estate developers have
followed. With the influx of tech workers, along with students from the
College of Charleston, downtown Charleston has seen median rent prices go
up more than much larger cities. A one-bedroom can cost $1600, higher than
in Atlanta or Chicago. House prices have doubled in the past few years, up
more than $50,000 just in the past year. And like other cities struggling
with gentrification, the non-white population has suffered the most. In
some Charleston neighborhoods, nearly half of the African-American
residents have left, as even in areas riddled by higher crime rates,
four-bedroom apartments are renting for up to $3000 a month, with students
snatching them up. Meanwhile, struggling families, many working in
low-paying food or hospitality services and forced to depend on federal
help for housing costs, are limited to section-8 housing voucher maximums
of just $1026 for a three-bedroom. As longtime Charleston resident King
Grant-Davis told the Charleston City Paper, “Gentrification in itself may
not be bad, but the part of pricing racial or ethnic groups out, making
accommodations too expensive for them because of their economic status,
that’s bad.”
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Re: [MBZ] More stupid computers

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

How old is your boy now?  Seems like he was a toddler helping you build that 
wood shed not too long ago.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 20, 2016 11:49:31 AM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>SWMBA has been particularly A at sharing her 2007 MacBook Pro,
>in particular our son locks it up evening after evening doing
>his homework at a glacial pace.  This weekend I got a late-2008
>MacBook Pro off of Craigslist, with 250GB HD and 8 GB RAM,
>for $220.  (This will not run El Capitan's successor Sierra,
>and I used that fact to knock him down a bit on price.  Nothing
>we have will officially run Sierra, though I nurture hopes that
>the hacker community will come through, should we ever find that
>we need to run it.)  The dog hair, cigarette smoke, and tattoo
>parlor stickers were no extra charge.
>
>Yesterday I loaded it up with El Crap and the contents of the
>older MBP, and I spent this morning cleaning it.  It's running
>its first full backup now, and will probably satisfy the 'problem'.
>
>-- Jim
>
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[MBZ] $950 S320

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Doesn't look too bad, tranny issues? 
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5609488213.html



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[MBZ] CD with funky seats

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Did Max post this one? https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5633874541.html


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[MBZ] Please no low bowlers ..you get lucky if you find same car in same shape in $800 mile radius

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

People collect them and sell only at classic auto auctions.
Will not say why am i selling it so dont even waste my time asking.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5627142110.html


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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yeah, I did that.  Typed in terminal.  It said it could not find terminal.


OK Don via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 3:29 PM
In the latest stable version of Ubuntu, click the icon in the upper left -
"search the computer", type term and three choices are offered . . .
That's probably the last Linux question I'll be able to offer help 
with :-)


On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <


Curley McLain 
June 20, 2016 at 2:52 PM
Found the answers for 1 and 2:

Step 1: Open Run by Windows+R, enter lusrmgr.msc and hit OK to open 
Local Users and Groups.
Step 2: Open the Users folder, right-click a user and select Rename in 
the menu.

Step 3: Type a new name in the name box.

Once the local user editor is open, it looks like the old versions.  
Rt click and rename a user or right click and add a new user.


Change administrator or guest name in Local Group Policy Editor.

If I get more familiar with linux, then that becomes a more viable 
option.  I was trying to open a terminal window in ubuntu last night, 
and could not find the way to do that.  It was frustrating, because I 
have found it before, but it probably was a different version


It is a pain in Mac OS10, but it is easy.

Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 2:00 PM
Curled sez:


I have to ask, WHY?

Windows Seven, or a Linux distro of your choice would be a much better 
choice of OS, IMHO.

‎M$ 10 invades way too much privacy.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

[OK Don via Mercedes]

In the latest stable version of Ubuntu, click the icon in the upper left -
"search the computer", type term and three choices are offered . . .
That's probably the last Linux question I'll be able to offer help with :-)

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> If I get more familiar with linux, then that becomes a more viable
> option.  I was trying to open a terminal window in ubuntu last night, and
> could not find the way to do that.  It was frustrating, because I have
> found it before, but it probably was a different version
>
>
>


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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Clothes Irons

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 20/06/2016 12:39 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:05:50 -0400 Joel Cairo via Mercedes
 wrote:


That sounds like it would make a good parts cleaner too!

Obligatory Mercedes content, too ...


Craig

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http://www.tefal.com/Linen-Care/Steam-Generators/Home-Professional/Pro-Express-Total/p/1830004902

Like this. Tefal is made in France, I think.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Panel Cutting Layout Software

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

I'll have to dig in my bookmarks but at one time I think I had DLed a 
little winders program that would do that for the rectangular cuts, 
might have been spreadsheet based, or took a SS file as input, I don't 
recall for sure.  Might even have been an early version of one of 
these.  But yeah they are helpful.  I like this one though, will have to 
bookmark it.


--JC


On 6/20/16 3:22 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

If you have a CAD file of your parts, and lots of parts to cut, paying a
few bucks for a short term subscription to this is definitely worthwhile:

http://efficientsoftware.co.uk/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=021920NestFab
On Jun 20, 2016 7:19 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:


Youngest boy wants to build an owl house, so I was looking around to see
if I could find some freeware to do the panel layout. Came across this web
site:

www.optimalon.com

They have a free online layout program that is really slick.  I entered my
stock panel sizes and the dimensions of the individual parts and it gave me
a layout and cutting diagram.

Do note that you have to enter Imperial values in feet and inches, not
just inches (1' 11" for a 23" long panel, for example.)

Otherwise it's pretty easy to do.

Enjoy!

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this -- food and fire

[WILTON via Mercedes]

SWMBO cooks some mighty fine shucked green corn wrapped in wet paper towel 
and zapped in microwave oven 'bout 2 min.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" 

To: 
Cc: "Joel Cairo" 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this -- food and fire


I did some corn on the grill too, pulled the shucks back for a handle and 
grilled it nekkid.  I have done it while husked too, soak it in water so 
the heat steams it and doesn't burn the husks too much.  You can also peel 
it a bit and put some salt, butter, spices, etc. inside then put it on the 
fire.  The silks come right off too when you shuck it.


I did up 2 pork shoulders and 3 racks of ribs too, my little smoker was 
pretty full so no room for anything else but next time maybe I'll put some 
corn in to smoke awhile, that sounds really good.  Maybe some shishidos 
too, yu...


--JC


On 6/20/16 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this -- food and fire

[WILTON via Mercedes]

BTW, speaking shucking corn reminds me:  Coupla years ago, somebody sold a 
hand-crank-operated corn sheller to
"Pawn Stars" Rick.  They kept calling it a "corn shucker" and even tried to 
run some green, un-shucked corn through it, making sort of a mess.  I kept 
tryin' to tell 'em, "It's a DRY corn SHELLER!"  They couldn't hear me, 
though, and obviously didn't know what the Hell they were doing.  I know, 
'cause, 'bout 70 years ago, I was an expert corn sheller operator.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" 

To: 
Cc: "Joel Cairo" 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this -- food and fire


I did some corn on the grill too, pulled the shucks back for a handle and 
grilled it nekkid.  I have done it while husked too, soak it in water so 
the heat steams it and doesn't burn the husks too much.  You can also peel 
it a bit and put some salt, butter, spices, etc. inside then put it on the 
fire.  The silks come right off too when you shuck it.


I did up 2 pork shoulders and 3 racks of ribs too, my little smoker was 
pretty full so no room for anything else but next time maybe I'll put some 
corn in to smoke awhile, that sounds really good.  Maybe some shishidos 
too, yu...


--JC


On 6/20/16 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Found the answers for 1 and 2:

Step 1: Open Run by Windows+R, enter lusrmgr.msc and hit OK to open 
Local Users and Groups.
Step 2: Open the Users folder, right-click a user and select Rename in 
the menu.

Step 3: Type a new name in the name box.

Once the local user editor is open, it looks like the old versions.  Rt 
click and rename a user or right click and add a new user.


Change administrator or guest name in Local Group Policy Editor.

If I get more familiar with linux, then that becomes a more viable 
option.  I was trying to open a terminal window in ubuntu last night, 
and could not find the way to do that.  It was frustrating, because I 
have found it before, but it probably was a different version


It is a pain in Mac OS10, but it is easy.

Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 2:00 PM
Curled sez:


I have to ask, WHY?

Windows Seven, or a Linux distro of your choice would be a much better 
choice of OS, IMHO.

?M$ 10 invades way too much privacy.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Andrew sez: 

>‎Gotta put in a vegetable bed >somewhere in my back yard >"lawn".

I would think in your locale (inside or near the beltway) growing your own food 
(promoting independence, as opposed to dependency on govt) would be highly 
illegal. Not to mention immoral, and unethical. You are setting a mighty poor 
example for your fellow denizens in Baltimore MD, who are wholly dependent on 
the government for everything. 

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Rick 
Tongue in cheek, not to be taken seriously.  ‎‎
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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Just cuz  it might be a mosheen that might do any duties that 
require M$ for the next 5 or so years.  10 is free for now  Seven 
will soon go the way of XP.


Pretty much the same reasons I am trying to put el crap on all the 
macs.  Not because it is any good.  So far I see only negatives.  but 
because the fruits and M$ are blackmailing everyone into the latest 
crapware.


Lets call it an evaluation copy that does not expire.  (on the Winders 
2000, there was a way to change a registry entry to make it a 
non-expiring version. )   Because we had all the licenses we needed as a 
M$ partner (for a price) i didn't need to do it, but it was interesting 
to find out it worked.  Like I could load server, run a class, make it 
think it was 2000 Pro, (it would lose all the server and AD settings, 
then make it think it was a server again.  (clean install)  That was 
MUCH faster than doing a clean reinstall to set up the server for the 
next class.   And all the (3rd party) files i needed were already loaded!



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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Curled sez:


I have to ask, WHY?

Windows Seven, or a Linux distro of your choice would be a much better 
choice of OS, IMHO.

‎M$ 10 invades way too much privacy.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Panel Cutting Layout Software

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

If you have a CAD file of your parts, and lots of parts to cut, paying a
few bucks for a short term subscription to this is definitely worthwhile:

http://efficientsoftware.co.uk/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=021920NestFab
On Jun 20, 2016 7:19 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Youngest boy wants to build an owl house, so I was looking around to see
> if I could find some freeware to do the panel layout. Came across this web
> site:
>
> www.optimalon.com
>
> They have a free online layout program that is really slick.  I entered my
> stock panel sizes and the dimensions of the individual parts and it gave me
> a layout and cutting diagram.
>
> Do note that you have to enter Imperial values in feet and inches, not
> just inches (1' 11" for a 23" long panel, for example.)
>
> Otherwise it's pretty easy to do.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Dan
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [MBZ] Looks like a nice 123

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I call it nickel green but know neither the code nor the official name auf
Deustsch.  It was quite popular from 1982 - 85.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Love that color combo, like a jagyoowah BRG/parchment.  Not a bad price
> either if it runs well and the new paint isn't covering up a lot of rust
> and bondo.
>
> -JC
>
>
>
> On 6/20/16 2:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>
>> 1984 mercedes 300d
>> http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5603281524.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

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Curled sez: 

>‎So it spent 24 hours downloading >and doing the widders 10 >downgrade.

I have to ask, WHY?

Windows Seven, or a Linux distro of your choice would be a much better choice 
of OS, IMHO.  
‎M$ 10 invades way too much privacy. 

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Re: [MBZ] Looks like a nice 123

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Love that color combo, like a jagyoowah BRG/parchment.  Not a bad price 
either if it runs well and the new paint isn't covering up a lot of rust 
and bondo.


-JC


On 6/20/16 2:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


1984 mercedes 300d
http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5603281524.html

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[MBZ] Looks like a nice 123

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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Or... I could wield my root axe now and cut them out before framing the bed.



On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Oh! cardboard/newspaper in the bottom is good stuff.  No need to ask about
> that.  just lay down the cardboard, put your raised bed over it.  Trim the
> cardboard to the outside of the bed.  put all the newspaper you want in the
> frame, toss in some sand, compost, topsoil, clay, peat or whatever you want
> in your majik mix.  I use at least half compost, but it shrinks a lot, so
> you have a lot more shallow bed by fall.  next spring just filler up and
> start over.  Ash from burned buildings or grasslands is great to add too.
> As is cow or BS.
>
> BEWARE:  since you have roots below, the cardboard and paper will promote
> root growth, not keep the tree roots out.  Because of this you probably
> want to throw all the dirt and roots out in the fall or spring to kill off
> the roots, then toss it all back in.  Or just put the shower liner under
> the cardboard.
>
> The yuppie variation is to run the shower liner up the side a couple
> inches and staple it.  That makes a "pond" for water.  Then you want gravel
> to the top of the pond, then your majik mixture over the top of that.
>  With a yuppie raised bed, once the plants are established, you never have
> to waterin theory  or at least, seldom need to water!
>
> "sheet composing community"  You mean there are that many of you that have
> given up the secret society, and need to compost yer sheets?  The eye
> cutouts will aid the composting process.
>
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> June 20, 2016 at 12:17 PM
>> Sheet composting is a term for laying down sheets of cardboard or
>> newspaper
>> in a framed bed prior to shoveling in soil (compost, manure, etc.). These
>> sheets of paper or cardboard decay while killing off the grass/weeds.
>>
>> The notion of using plastic shower curtains or bed sheets in these beds is
>> an insult to the sheet composing community
>>
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[MBZ] Gateway M285-E backlight a widows 10

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Amongst the junk i was trying to get rid of was a Gateway M285-E  turns 
out it is Core 2 Duo, so the processor is El Crap approved.H


So it spent 24 hours downloading and doing the widders 10 downgrade.
In theory it is better than the dell/ubuntu I have for a shop computer.


About halfway through, i could no longer see stuff on the screen.  Seems 
it needs a new backlight, symptoms fit...  A new backlight is $15.  
Anyone ever replaced one in a Gator way?


Widders 10 questions:
1.  I tried to find "computer (etc)" to right click on the change 
the computer name.   How do ya do dat?


2.  I tried to change the user name or add a new user.  It appears 
that you can't add a new user without making up some "person" and giving 
M$ the name, address, serial number, rank, Birthdate, Blood type, email 
address, country, bank account numbers, credit card number and so 
forth.  (OK, so I exaggerate slightly, ...but not much!)  I could not 
find a listing of accounts to rename the existing user account.  Any 
clues  how I can change the user's name?


Seems M$ is up to the old tricks, trying to copy everything their R&D 
Dept (Apple) does.  Widders 10 has a fake Siri and all manner of other 
stuff copied from R&D 10.10 or 10.11.


3.  Is there any way to change to the "classic" interface, or the 
XP bubblegum interface"  or anything else that might be more understandable?


TIA!   10.11 AND widders 10 at the same time are blowing my FUSES!   
(RIP Herr Doktor)


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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Oh! cardboard/newspaper in the bottom is good stuff.  No need to ask 
about that.  just lay down the cardboard, put your raised bed over it.  
Trim the cardboard to the outside of the bed.  put all the newspaper you 
want in the frame, toss in some sand, compost, topsoil, clay, peat or 
whatever you want in your majik mix.  I use at least half compost, but 
it shrinks a lot, so you have a lot more shallow bed by fall.  next 
spring just filler up and start over.  Ash from burned buildings or 
grasslands is great to add too.  As is cow or BS.


BEWARE:  since you have roots below, the cardboard and paper will 
promote root growth, not keep the tree roots out.  Because of this you 
probably want to throw all the dirt and roots out in the fall or spring 
to kill off the roots, then toss it all back in.  Or just put the shower 
liner under the cardboard.


The yuppie variation is to run the shower liner up the side a couple 
inches and staple it.  That makes a "pond" for water.  Then you want 
gravel to the top of the pond, then your majik mixture over the top of 
that.   With a yuppie raised bed, once the plants are established, you 
never have to waterin theory  or at least, seldom need to water!


"sheet composing community"  You mean there are that many of you that 
have given up the secret society, and need to compost yer sheets?  The 
eye cutouts will aid the composting process.

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 12:17 PM
Sheet composting is a term for laying down sheets of cardboard or 
newspaper

in a framed bed prior to shoveling in soil (compost, manure, etc.). These
sheets of paper or cardboard decay while killing off the grass/weeds.

The notion of using plastic shower curtains or bed sheets in these beds is
an insult to the sheet composing community


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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this -- food and fire

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thank goodness I live in Maryland, a state known for its political purity.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Actually this one got fined from some campaign violations but as far as I
> know the fine has not yet been paid, it is not an inconsequential sum.
> Another one (I don't know him but he is a good friend of another friend)
> got fired and fined for using campaign money to buy some "gifts" at an
> adult products shop, gifts for some ladies with whom he was acquainted.
> There are a bunch of others too, but the thing to realize is that here in
> SC they are all scalawags, D, R, whatever.  Some of them are OUR scalawags
> though, so that makes a difference, as long as they stay bought and don't
> go off the reservation too far.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 6/20/16 1:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> So there is one known D in your state.  How many others are under
>> investigation?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> Well I just finished some of that Q for lunch, the ribs all got
>> consumed by the ravenous hoard but I made 2 shoulders and only one
>> of those got eaten up.  It is actually quite amazing, even my
>> buddy who does whole hogs often said it was really good.
>>
>> You will also be pleased to know that one of the guests is a
>> pretty serious Democrat, a big H->illary! supporter, very liberal,
>> gun-grabber, and someone who accomplished a rather historic
>> achievement here in SC in recent times that you would no doubt
>> find pleasing to your progressive sensibilities.  But, amazingly
>> enough, a friend, esp where my homebrews are involved. I guess
>> that is why I am tolerated.
>>
>> --JC
>>
>>
>> On 6/20/16 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> I'll be right over.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> I did some corn on the grill too, pulled the shucks back
>> for a handle and
>> grilled it nekkid.  I have done it while husked too, soak
>> it in water so
>> the heat steams it and doesn't burn the husks too much.
>> You can also peel
>> it a bit and put some salt, butter, spices, etc. inside
>> then put it on the
>> fire.  The silks come right off too when you shuck it.
>>
>> I did up 2 pork shoulders and 3 racks of ribs too, my
>> little smoker was
>> pretty full so no room for anything else but next time
>> maybe I'll put some
>> corn in to smoke awhile, that sounds really good.  Maybe
>> some shishidos
>> too, yu...
>>
>> --JC
>>
>>
>> On 6/20/16 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
>> cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
>> high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
>> makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
>> Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was
>> excellent
>> even without that.  Yum!
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this -- food and fire

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Actually this one got fined from some campaign violations but as far as 
I know the fine has not yet been paid, it is not an inconsequential 
sum.  Another one (I don't know him but he is a good friend of another 
friend) got fired and fined for using campaign money to buy some "gifts" 
at an adult products shop, gifts for some ladies with whom he was 
acquainted.  There are a bunch of others too, but the thing to realize 
is that here in SC they are all scalawags, D, R, whatever.  Some of them 
are OUR scalawags though, so that makes a difference, as long as they 
stay bought and don't go off the reservation too far.


--R


On 6/20/16 1:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
So there is one known D in your state.  How many others are under 
investigation?


On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Well I just finished some of that Q for lunch, the ribs all got
consumed by the ravenous hoard but I made 2 shoulders and only one
of those got eaten up.  It is actually quite amazing, even my
buddy who does whole hogs often said it was really good.

You will also be pleased to know that one of the guests is a
pretty serious Democrat, a big H->illary! supporter, very liberal,
gun-grabber, and someone who accomplished a rather historic
achievement here in SC in recent times that you would no doubt
find pleasing to your progressive sensibilities.  But, amazingly
enough, a friend, esp where my homebrews are involved. I guess
that is why I am tolerated.

--JC


On 6/20/16 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I'll be right over.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

I did some corn on the grill too, pulled the shucks back
for a handle and
grilled it nekkid.  I have done it while husked too, soak
it in water so
the heat steams it and doesn't burn the husks too much.
You can also peel
it a bit and put some salt, butter, spices, etc. inside
then put it on the
fire.  The silks come right off too when you shuck it.

I did up 2 pork shoulders and 3 racks of ribs too, my
little smoker was
pretty full so no room for anything else but next time
maybe I'll put some
corn in to smoke awhile, that sounds really good.  Maybe
some shishidos
too, yu...

--JC


On 6/20/16 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was
excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Clothes Irons

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:05:50 -0400 Joel Cairo via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That sounds like it would make a good parts cleaner too!

Obligatory Mercedes content, too ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this -- food and fire

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So there is one known D in your state.  How many others are under
investigation?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well I just finished some of that Q for lunch, the ribs all got consumed
> by the ravenous hoard but I made 2 shoulders and only one of those got
> eaten up.  It is actually quite amazing, even my buddy who does whole hogs
> often said it was really good.
>
> You will also be pleased to know that one of the guests is a pretty
> serious Democrat, a big H->illary! supporter, very liberal, gun-grabber,
> and someone who accomplished a rather historic achievement here in SC in
> recent times that you would no doubt find pleasing to your progressive
> sensibilities.  But, amazingly enough, a friend, esp where my homebrews are
> involved. I guess that is why I am tolerated.
>
> --JC
>
>
> On 6/20/16 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I'll be right over.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I did some corn on the grill too, pulled the shucks back for a handle and
>>> grilled it nekkid.  I have done it while husked too, soak it in water so
>>> the heat steams it and doesn't burn the husks too much.  You can also
>>> peel
>>> it a bit and put some salt, butter, spices, etc. inside then put it on
>>> the
>>> fire.  The silks come right off too when you shuck it.
>>>
>>> I did up 2 pork shoulders and 3 racks of ribs too, my little smoker was
>>> pretty full so no room for anything else but next time maybe I'll put
>>> some
>>> corn in to smoke awhile, that sounds really good.  Maybe some shishidos
>>> too, yu...
>>>
>>> --JC
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/20/16 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
 cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
 high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
 makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
 Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
 even without that.  Yum!

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this -- food and fire

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Well I just finished some of that Q for lunch, the ribs all got consumed 
by the ravenous hoard but I made 2 shoulders and only one of those got 
eaten up.  It is actually quite amazing, even my buddy who does whole 
hogs often said it was really good.


You will also be pleased to know that one of the guests is a pretty 
serious Democrat, a big H->illary! supporter, very liberal, gun-grabber, 
and someone who accomplished a rather historic achievement here in SC in 
recent times that you would no doubt find pleasing to your progressive 
sensibilities.  But, amazingly enough, a friend, esp where my homebrews 
are involved. I guess that is why I am tolerated.


--JC


On 6/20/16 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I'll be right over.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I did some corn on the grill too, pulled the shucks back for a handle and
grilled it nekkid.  I have done it while husked too, soak it in water so
the heat steams it and doesn't burn the husks too much.  You can also peel
it a bit and put some salt, butter, spices, etc. inside then put it on the
fire.  The silks come right off too when you shuck it.

I did up 2 pork shoulders and 3 racks of ribs too, my little smoker was
pretty full so no room for anything else but next time maybe I'll put some
corn in to smoke awhile, that sounds really good.  Maybe some shishidos
too, yu...

--JC


On 6/20/16 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:


The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Roger

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hear the one about the dyslexic zombie?

"Brians..brians"



Thank you.

Dan

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> On Jun 20, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
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> 
> We now know if it is alive or dead
> 
> --JC
> 
> 
>> On 6/20/16 1:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> It's his cat.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jun 20, 2016, at 12:41 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 'Just got a msg from Roger Ellingson.  How he do dat?
>>> 
>>> Did not open it.
>>> 
>>> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Or, to put it more succinctly, "politicians" and "reporters"

--JC


On 6/20/16 1:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

an insult to the sheet composing community


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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this -- food and fire

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I'll be right over.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
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> I did some corn on the grill too, pulled the shucks back for a handle and
> grilled it nekkid.  I have done it while husked too, soak it in water so
> the heat steams it and doesn't burn the husks too much.  You can also peel
> it a bit and put some salt, butter, spices, etc. inside then put it on the
> fire.  The silks come right off too when you shuck it.
>
> I did up 2 pork shoulders and 3 racks of ribs too, my little smoker was
> pretty full so no room for anything else but next time maybe I'll put some
> corn in to smoke awhile, that sounds really good.  Maybe some shishidos
> too, yu...
>
> --JC
>
>
> On 6/20/16 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
>> cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
>> high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
>> makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
>> Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
>> even without that.  Yum!
>>
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

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Sheet composting is a term for laying down sheets of cardboard or newspaper
in a framed bed prior to shoveling in soil (compost, manure, etc.).  These
sheets of paper or cardboard decay while killing off the grass/weeds.

The notion of using plastic shower curtains or bed sheets in these beds is
an insult to the sheet composing community

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
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> Oh yeah, the formal wear for the Sacred Society conclaves, but I think Ol'
> Sheets might have been buried in them, the burial shroud...
>
> --JC
>
>
> On 6/20/16 12:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I took it as he and Sheets Byrd had given up on their secret activities
>> and needed to compost the evidence.
>>
>> Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
>>> June 20, 2016 at 11:44 AM
>>> i think he used the word "sheet" as a euphemism for the other sh*t word,
>>> like cat "sheet" composting which he does.  In DC he has considerable
>>> access to the male bovine variety.
>>>
>>> --JC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>> June 20, 2016 at 11:11 AM
>>> My brother who lives in Manhattan loves these peppers but I keep on
>>> forgetting to order seeds so I can grow them.
>>>
>>> Gotta put in a vegetable bed somewhere in my back yard "lawn". I was
>>> planning to frame in a bid directly on the "grass" without tilling (too
>>> many roots). Anybody have any experience with sheet composting?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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>>> June 20, 2016 at 11:06 AM
>>> The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
>>> cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
>>> high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
>>> makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
>>> Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
>>> even without that.  Yum!
>>>
>>> -- Jim
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>>> Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
>>> June 20, 2016 at 10:59 AM
>>> Shishido peppers, grilled/roasted a bit over a flame with some olive oil
>>> and salt.  I like the smaller ones maybe 2-3" long but my farm stand
>>> neighbor had a bunch that were bigger, maybe 4" or a bit more.  I was a bit
>>> reluctant that they might be tough or have stronger flavor, but I put them
>>> on the cooktop grill last night and did them all, they were quite nice, no
>>> different from the smaller ones so  that was a pleasant surprise.  They
>>> would probably be a bit nicer on a charcoal flame with some smoke, or to
>>> use a smoked salt, I'll have to try that on the next batch if I have a real
>>> fire going.
>>>
>>> I used to fight them falling in the grill but I got a perforated grill
>>> sheet pan to do them on, it works fine.
>>>
>>> They make a nice horse doover to munch on as they come off the fire,
>>> with a cold IPA or something crisp and white or bubbly. We had a big party
>>> Sat evening, I was going to grill them for that but forgot so just managed
>>> to have them all to myself last night! I had also bought a bunch of peaches
>>> to grill but got distracted too so will have to do those the next time and
>>> just eat these.
>>>
>>> WARNING:  They are quite addictive.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this -- food and fire

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

I did some corn on the grill too, pulled the shucks back for a handle 
and grilled it nekkid.  I have done it while husked too, soak it in 
water so the heat steams it and doesn't burn the husks too much.  You 
can also peel it a bit and put some salt, butter, spices, etc. inside 
then put it on the fire.  The silks come right off too when you shuck it.


I did up 2 pork shoulders and 3 racks of ribs too, my little smoker was 
pretty full so no room for anything else but next time maybe I'll put 
some corn in to smoke awhile, that sounds really good.  Maybe some 
shishidos too, yu...


--JC


On 6/20/16 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Clothes Irons

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Whatever happened to those people you were going to let live/hide out in 
your garage?  Ironing could help them earn their keep.


--JC


On 6/20/16 1:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Also handy if you want to take in some ironing to help meet expenses.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


That sounds like it would make a good parts cleaner too!

--JC



On 6/20/16 1:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

I have not read all of the posts on this subject so someone
else may have already suggested this.
My wife is of the opinion that you need one with lots of
watts. Lots of heat makes lots of steam and makes the clothes
flat with less effort on the part of the operator.
I do not recall the name of the current one she uses but it
has a tank that sits on the floor and feeds the iron via a
hose that is enclosed with the cord.
She loves it.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Clothes Irons

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Also handy if you want to take in some ironing to help meet expenses.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
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> That sounds like it would make a good parts cleaner too!
>
> --JC
>
>
>
> On 6/20/16 1:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I have not read all of the posts on this subject so someone else may have
>> already suggested this.
>> My wife is of the opinion that you need one with lots of watts. Lots of
>> heat makes lots of steam and makes the clothes flat with less effort on the
>> part of the operator.
>> I do not recall the name of the current one she uses but it has a tank
>> that sits on the floor and feeds the iron via a hose that is enclosed with
>> the cord.
>> She loves it.
>>
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Roger

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

We now know if it is alive or dead

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On 6/20/16 1:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

It's his cat.

Sent from my iPad


On Jun 20, 2016, at 12:41 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:

'Just got a msg from Roger Ellingson.  How he do dat?

Did not open it.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Clothes Irons

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

That sounds like it would make a good parts cleaner too!

--JC


On 6/20/16 1:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
I have not read all of the posts on this subject so someone else may 
have already suggested this.
My wife is of the opinion that you need one with lots of watts. Lots 
of heat makes lots of steam and makes the clothes flat with less 
effort on the part of the operator.
I do not recall the name of the current one she uses but it has a tank 
that sits on the floor and feeds the iron via a hose that is enclosed 
with the cord.

She loves it.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Clothes Irons

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I have not read all of the posts on this subject so someone else may 
have already suggested this.
My wife is of the opinion that you need one with lots of watts. Lots of 
heat makes lots of steam and makes the clothes flat with less effort on 
the part of the operator.
I do not recall the name of the current one she uses but it has a tank 
that sits on the floor and feeds the iron via a hose that is enclosed 
with the cord.

She loves it.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Roger

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It's his cat.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 20, 2016, at 12:41 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
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> 
> 'Just got a msg from Roger Ellingson.  How he do dat?
> 
> Did not open it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Oh yeah, the formal wear for the Sacred Society conclaves, but I think 
Ol' Sheets might have been buried in them, the burial shroud...


--JC

On 6/20/16 12:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I took it as he and Sheets Byrd had given up on their secret 
activities and needed to compost the evidence.



Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 11:44 AM
i think he used the word "sheet" as a euphemism for the other sh*t 
word, like cat "sheet" composting which he does.  In DC he has 
considerable access to the male bovine variety.


--JC




Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 11:11 AM
My brother who lives in Manhattan loves these peppers but I keep on
forgetting to order seeds so I can grow them.

Gotta put in a vegetable bed somewhere in my back yard "lawn". I was
planning to frame in a bid directly on the "grass" without tilling (too
many roots). Anybody have any experience with sheet composting?

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Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 11:06 AM
The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim


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Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 10:59 AM
Shishido peppers, grilled/roasted a bit over a flame with some olive 
oil and salt.  I like the smaller ones maybe 2-3" long but my farm 
stand neighbor had a bunch that were bigger, maybe 4" or a bit more.  
I was a bit reluctant that they might be tough or have stronger 
flavor, but I put them on the cooktop grill last night and did them 
all, they were quite nice, no different from the smaller ones so  
that was a pleasant surprise.  They would probably be a bit nicer on 
a charcoal flame with some smoke, or to use a smoked salt, I'll have 
to try that on the next batch if I have a real fire going.


I used to fight them falling in the grill but I got a perforated 
grill sheet pan to do them on, it works fine.


They make a nice horse doover to munch on as they come off the fire, 
with a cold IPA or something crisp and white or bubbly. We had a big 
party Sat evening, I was going to grill them for that but forgot so 
just managed to have them all to myself last night! I had also bought 
a bunch of peaches to grill but got distracted too so will have to do 
those the next time and just eat these.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I took it as he and Sheets Byrd had given up on their secret activities 
and needed to compost the evidence.



Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 11:44 AM
i think he used the word "sheet" as a euphemism for the other sh*t 
word, like cat "sheet" composting which he does.  In DC he has 
considerable access to the male bovine variety.


--JC




Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 11:11 AM
My brother who lives in Manhattan loves these peppers but I keep on
forgetting to order seeds so I can grow them.

Gotta put in a vegetable bed somewhere in my back yard "lawn". I was
planning to frame in a bid directly on the "grass" without tilling (too
many roots). Anybody have any experience with sheet composting?

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Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 11:06 AM
The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim


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Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 10:59 AM
Shishido peppers, grilled/roasted a bit over a flame with some olive 
oil and salt.  I like the smaller ones maybe 2-3" long but my farm 
stand neighbor had a bunch that were bigger, maybe 4" or a bit more.  
I was a bit reluctant that they might be tough or have stronger 
flavor, but I put them on the cooktop grill last night and did them 
all, they were quite nice, no different from the smaller ones so  that 
was a pleasant surprise.  They would probably be a bit nicer on a 
charcoal flame with some smoke, or to use a smoked salt, I'll have to 
try that on the next batch if I have a real fire going.


I used to fight them falling in the grill but I got a perforated grill 
sheet pan to do them on, it works fine.


They make a nice horse doover to munch on as they come off the fire, 
with a cold IPA or something crisp and white or bubbly.  We had a big 
party Sat evening, I was going to grill them for that but forgot so 
just managed to have them all to myself last night! I had also bought 
a bunch of peaches to grill but got distracted too so will have to do 
those the next time and just eat these.


WARNING:  They are quite addictive.



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Re: [MBZ] Roger

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On the internet all things are possible

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On 6/20/16 12:41 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

'Just got a msg from Roger Ellingson.  How he do dat?

Did not open it.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

i think he used the word "sheet" as a euphemism for the other sh*t word, 
like cat "sheet" composting which he does.  In DC he has considerable 
access to the male bovine variety.


--JC


On 6/20/16 12:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Just make a raised bed over the top of your roots.  SHower liner 
plastic underneath will probably go a long way toward keeping roots 
out of your raised bed.  I have never composed sheets, but given time, 
they will compost as long as they are cotton.  I compost everything.  
I have composted burlap in the past.  I have 2 bins, 5' deep, 5' high 
and 6' long.  Each fall they are running over, even with stomping them 
down as much as we can.  THen transfer side to side to rotate.


I made an elevated raised bed.  I call it the feed trough (ideal for 
the pigs in DC) It is the hight of a horse feed bunk to attempt to 
keep out the rabbits.  It does not keep out coons and possums or 
squirrels.  I still need an electric fence for them.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 11:11 AM
My brother who lives in Manhattan loves these peppers but I keep on
forgetting to order seeds so I can grow them.

Gotta put in a vegetable bed somewhere in my back yard "lawn". I was
planning to frame in a bid directly on the "grass" without tilling (too
many roots). Anybody have any experience with sheet composting?

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Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 11:06 AM
The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim


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Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 10:59 AM
Shishido peppers, grilled/roasted a bit over a flame with some olive 
oil and salt.  I like the smaller ones maybe 2-3" long but my farm 
stand neighbor had a bunch that were bigger, maybe 4" or a bit more.  
I was a bit reluctant that they might be tough or have stronger 
flavor, but I put them on the cooktop grill last night and did them 
all, they were quite nice, no different from the smaller ones so  
that was a pleasant surprise.  They would probably be a bit nicer on 
a charcoal flame with some smoke, or to use a smoked salt, I'll have 
to try that on the next batch if I have a real fire going.


I used to fight them falling in the grill but I got a perforated 
grill sheet pan to do them on, it works fine.


They make a nice horse doover to munch on as they come off the fire, 
with a cold IPA or something crisp and white or bubbly. We had a big 
party Sat evening, I was going to grill them for that but forgot so 
just managed to have them all to myself last night! I had also bought 
a bunch of peaches to grill but got distracted too so will have to do 
those the next time and just eat these.


WARNING:  They are quite addictive.



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Re: [MBZ] Roger

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He is a walker

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[MBZ] Roger

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Just got a msg from Roger Ellingson.  How he do dat?

Did not open it.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Just make a raised bed over the top of your roots.  SHower liner plastic 
underneath will probably go a long way toward keeping roots out of your 
raised bed.  I have never composed sheets, but given time, they will 
compost as long as they are cotton.  I compost everything.  I have 
composted burlap in the past.  I have  2 bins, 5' deep, 5' high and 6' 
long.  Each fall they are running over, even with stomping them down as 
much as we can.  THen transfer side to side to rotate.


I made an elevated raised bed.  I call it the feed trough (ideal for the 
pigs in DC) It is the hight of a horse feed bunk to attempt to keep out 
the rabbits.  It does not keep out coons and possums or squirrels.  I 
still need an electric fence for them.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 11:11 AM
My brother who lives in Manhattan loves these peppers but I keep on
forgetting to order seeds so I can grow them.

Gotta put in a vegetable bed somewhere in my back yard "lawn". I was
planning to frame in a bid directly on the "grass" without tilling (too
many roots). Anybody have any experience with sheet composting?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 11:06 AM
The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim


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Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 20, 2016 at 10:59 AM
Shishido peppers, grilled/roasted a bit over a flame with some olive 
oil and salt.  I like the smaller ones maybe 2-3" long but my farm 
stand neighbor had a bunch that were bigger, maybe 4" or a bit more.  
I was a bit reluctant that they might be tough or have stronger 
flavor, but I put them on the cooktop grill last night and did them 
all, they were quite nice, no different from the smaller ones so  that 
was a pleasant surprise.  They would probably be a bit nicer on a 
charcoal flame with some smoke, or to use a smoked salt, I'll have to 
try that on the next batch if I have a real fire going.


I used to fight them falling in the grill but I got a perforated grill 
sheet pan to do them on, it works fine.


They make a nice horse doover to munch on as they come off the fire, 
with a cold IPA or something crisp and white or bubbly.  We had a big 
party Sat evening, I was going to grill them for that but forgot so 
just managed to have them all to myself last night! I had also bought 
a bunch of peaches to grill but got distracted too so will have to do 
those the next time and just eat these.


WARNING:  They are quite addictive.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, I know the theory but wanted to hear from an actual practitioner.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Look up growing stuff in straw bales, that looks kinda interesting.  I
> think you cut open a little bit then put some potting soil in and have at
> it, the straw breaks down a bit, composts.  Or make some boxes to put dirt
> and such in.
>
> --JC
>
>
> On 6/20/16 12:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> My brother who lives in Manhattan loves these peppers but I keep on
>> forgetting to order seeds so I can grow them.
>>
>> Gotta put in a vegetable bed somewhere in my back yard "lawn".  I was
>> planning to frame in a bid directly on the "grass" without tilling (too
>> many roots).  Anybody have any experience with sheet composting?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
>>> cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
>>> high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
>>> makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
>>> Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
>>> even without that.  Yum!
>>>
>>> -- Jim
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Look up growing stuff in straw bales, that looks kinda interesting.  I 
think you cut open a little bit then put some potting soil in and have 
at it, the straw breaks down a bit, composts.  Or make some boxes to put 
dirt and such in.


--JC


On 6/20/16 12:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

My brother who lives in Manhattan loves these peppers but I keep on
forgetting to order seeds so I can grow them.

Gotta put in a vegetable bed somewhere in my back yard "lawn".  I was
planning to frame in a bid directly on the "grass" without tilling (too
many roots).  Anybody have any experience with sheet composting?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My brother who lives in Manhattan loves these peppers but I keep on
forgetting to order seeds so I can grow them.

Gotta put in a vegetable bed somewhere in my back yard "lawn".  I was
planning to frame in a bid directly on the "grass" without tilling (too
many roots).  Anybody have any experience with sheet composting?

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
> cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
> high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
> makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
> Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
> even without that.  Yum!
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The neighbor was running his Traeger last night, and had
cooked up some fresh corn in it.  (Running a relatively
high heat, with relatively little smoke.)  Not much smoke
makes it through the husks, but it turned out _wonderful_!
Just a hint of smoke flavor to the corn, which was excellent
even without that.  Yum!

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT Some might appreciate this

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Shishido peppers, grilled/roasted a bit over a flame with some olive oil 
and salt.  I like the smaller ones maybe 2-3" long but my farm stand 
neighbor had a bunch that were bigger, maybe 4" or a bit more.  I was a 
bit reluctant that they might be tough or have stronger flavor, but I 
put them on the cooktop grill last night and did them all, they were 
quite nice, no different from the smaller ones so  that was a pleasant 
surprise.  They would probably be a bit nicer on a charcoal flame with 
some smoke, or to use a smoked salt, I'll have to try that on the next 
batch if I have a real fire going.


I used to fight them falling in the grill but I got a perforated grill 
sheet pan to do them on, it works fine.


They make a nice horse doover to munch on as they come off the fire, 
with a cold IPA or something crisp and white or bubbly.  We had a big 
party Sat evening, I was going to grill them for that but forgot so just 
managed to have them all to myself last night! I had also bought a bunch 
of peaches to grill but got distracted too so will have to do those the 
next time and just eat these.


WARNING:  They are quite addictive.

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[MBZ] More stupid computers

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

SWMBA has been particularly A at sharing her 2007 MacBook Pro,
in particular our son locks it up evening after evening doing
his homework at a glacial pace.  This weekend I got a late-2008
MacBook Pro off of Craigslist, with 250GB HD and 8 GB RAM,
for $220.  (This will not run El Capitan's successor Sierra,
and I used that fact to knock him down a bit on price.  Nothing
we have will officially run Sierra, though I nurture hopes that
the hacker community will come through, should we ever find that
we need to run it.)  The dog hair, cigarette smoke, and tattoo
parlor stickers were no extra charge.

Yesterday I loaded it up with El Crap and the contents of the
older MBP, and I spent this morning cleaning it.  It's running
its first full backup now, and will probably satisfy the 'problem'.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Clothes Irons

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Buy a Rowenta.   They are expensive (relatively speaking), but they work SO 
much better.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Craig [mailto:diese...@pisquared.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 8:35 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Clothes Irons

Shirley's 30 year old clothes iron broke recently, so we need to replace it.

In the vast experience of this list, is there one to be preferred? Or should we 
just go to WallyWorld and buy what they have?

Thanks,


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] I've gone off the deep end...

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Congrats!  Sounds like a fun car! 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Kraly [mailto:kevinpadd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 9:44 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] I've gone off the deep end...

and bought a 2014 VW Beetle TDI DIESEL Convertible with only 14K miles on it!!  
I’ve been wanting a convertible for a long time now, but until a week ago, I 
didn’t know  it was possible to get one with an OM.  I know it’s not an MB, but 
it is cool!  It is located down in California, so we’re working out a plan to 
fly in  next week and drive it up the coast back home to Oregon.  I’ve only 
been able to find 5 other Beetle TDI Convertibles nation wide, one in Wisconsin 
and the others along the east coast.  What could be better than the wind in 
your face accompanied by the purr of a Diesel engine?

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon who won’t be Diesel-less for much longer!!

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Car -- Crack Seller

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Some of them also had the 2.8L engine starting in either 70 or 71.  My 71 250 
had the 2.8 engine.  

Don Snook

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Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:13 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Interesting Car -- Crack Seller

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:42:34 -0400 Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
 wrote:

> 1970, 2-door coupe, 250cc, gas
> 
> I bet that is a speed demon

250C = 2.5 liter coupe


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Time for Rich/Joel to cash in?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

ATTABOY!

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:05 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.postandcourier.com/20160619/160619363/turn-526-defeat-into-a-park-win
>
> --R/JC
>
>
> On 6/19/16 11:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> *4. Charleston, South Carolina  *
>>
>> White millennials have flocked to Charleston, South Carolina, drawn by the
>> boom in the city’s tech sector and its high salaries. So many, in fact,
>> that Charleston has, for the first time in six decades, become a
>> majority-white city. Unsurprisingly, the real estate developers have
>> followed. With the influx of tech workers, along with students from the
>> College of Charleston, downtown Charleston has seen median rent prices go
>> up more than much larger cities. A one-bedroom can cost $1600, higher than
>> in Atlanta or Chicago. House prices have doubled in the past few years, up
>> more than $50,000 just in the past year. And like other cities struggling
>> with gentrification, the non-white population has suffered the most. In
>> some Charleston neighborhoods, nearly half of the African-American
>> residents have left, as even in areas riddled by higher crime rates,
>> four-bedroom apartments are renting for up to $3000 a month, with students
>> snatching them up. Meanwhile, struggling families, many working in
>> low-paying food or hospitality services and forced to depend on federal
>> help for housing costs, are limited to section-8 housing voucher maximums
>> of just $1026 for a three-bedroom. As longtime Charleston resident King
>> Grant-Davis told the Charleston City Paper, “Gentrification in itself may
>> not be bad, but the part of pricing racial or ethnic groups out, making
>> accommodations too expensive for them because of their economic status,
>> that’s bad.”
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[MBZ] OT - Panel Cutting Layout Software

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Youngest boy wants to build an owl house, so I was looking around to see if I 
could find some freeware to do the panel layout. Came across this web site:

www.optimalon.com

They have a free online layout program that is really slick.  I entered my 
stock panel sizes and the dimensions of the individual parts and it gave me a 
layout and cutting diagram.

Do note that you have to enter Imperial values in feet and inches, not just 
inches (1' 11" for a 23" long panel, for example.)

Otherwise it's pretty easy to do.

Enjoy!

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Time for Rich/Joel to cash in?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Better watch out for that Rich guy!  He sounds like a troublemaker!  
(Probably led the fight against that interstate to the golf course for 
Rich folks!)



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--R/JC



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