Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yeah!  The problem is that it was made after 1991.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
March 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM
https://youtu.be/mKByyJOb6nk

Has a slight uneven cold idle which turns into a dead cylinder when 
hot, leaking lots of fuel into the ground. I removed manifold today.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Milk

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Near as I can tell from brief research, the largest glass container of milk
in the 1950s would be half-gallons...

I have seen gallon cartons in the past, but they're somewhat unwieldy.
Most dairies use plastic jugs for milk nowadays.

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> was: OT Winter won't stop!
> Andrew wrote:
> > That term is so 1950s.
>
> 1950s - How was a gallon of milk packaged?
> Plastic as we see today?  Are there cardboard gallons?
> tin.tin
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

GoooD!   With red coloring.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
March 19, 2017 at 3:03 PM
What the heck is Korean BBQ?



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Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

I'm mildly surprised the engine shut down at all...

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 10:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well the injector holes were full of fuel from leaking return lines, leaks
> from delivery valves, leaks from plastic fuel lines, its all getting
> replaced.
>
>
> On 3/19/2017 10:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Where is the fuel leaking from?
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I still prefer 2x8 to 2x12 lumber with big blocks for the flat part.  
THey don't slide on concrete.



Larry Turner via Mercedes 
March 19, 2017 at 7:28 AM
That's why I don't like metal ramps - they have always started to 
slide when I tried to drive onto them.  I guess the concrete surface 
where I was working was too slick for them?  I was thinking that 
perhaps there are some kind of hard foam/plastic ramps that will 
support the car, and be light enough to move around and will be easy 
to drive on and won't slide across concrete.


Of course a lift would be ideal.

LarryT



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Re: [MBZ] ounces of preventiom

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Need to send that link to your kid.

Rick
  Original Message
From: clay via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 10:46 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List; Harold Monroe; Alexander Monroe
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Cc: clay
Subject: [MBZ] ounces of preventiom


http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1yETYy/:uH.-NJZi:EysQPmr3/consumerist.com/340380/7-things-to-regularly-check-on-your-car-to-save-money




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[MBZ] ounces of preventiom

[clay via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well the injector holes were full of fuel from leaking return lines, 
leaks from delivery valves, leaks from plastic fuel lines, its all 
getting replaced.



On 3/19/2017 10:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Where is the fuel leaking from?



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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Sounds like more fun that I had -- just front brakes and hoses on the TE -- 
rotors were marginal and the pads pretty worn but not shot, but I was getting a 
grinding sound on firm brake application so I replace everything.

Found that the rotor retaining screw had broken away a ring of the disk, so I'm 
betting the drag and pulsation I was getting up front was a rotor installed on 
a dirty hub.  It was done by my brother when he put new ball joints in it while 
I was down with heart failure a couple years ago.  Should have done what I 
thought of and re-installed that rotor myself, he's prone to rushing and 
getting pissed and not doing things quite right.

So now the pedal feels right, there is no pulsation or drag, car feels almost 
like  a Benz should.

Got  an annual bonus check from work, smaller than I'd like, but enough that I 
will order the rear parts tomorrow - rotors, pads, new springs and pins, a 
caliper rebuild kit for one side, and the three rear hoses.  Dollar to a 
doughnut I have a bad brake line causing drag.

Might finally get decent milage with this car, it's been very low 20s and as 
low as 18 mpg, even on the highway.  Tires might last a bit longer, too!

Now if I can just figure out why I have intermittent heater blower 
activity.  Damned thing works if you wriggle the connector up by the brake 
booster, but only until you shut it off.  I'm thinking one of the pins or 
sockets in the connector has a bad solder connection.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Where is the fuel leaking from?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 19, 2017 6:57:05 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>https://youtu.be/mKByyJOb6nk
>
>Has a slight uneven cold idle which turns into a dead cylinder when
>hot, leaking lots of fuel into the ground. I removed manifold today.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Uro part?

[clay via Mercedes]

Looks like somebody was playing with the RODEO.  Got to see that at the shop 
the other day.  Four minutes of a car hopping around while the suspension was 
being tested.

clay



> On Mar 19, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://blackflag.jalopnik.com/stop-trying-to-drive-home-mercedes-youre-drunk-1793406662
> 
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
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[MBZ] Change the oil, and fuses

[clay via Mercedes]

There was a club tech session yesterday.  Pretty good shop, they let us put 
cars on the lifts and got lots of great feedback.  Lots of leaks pointed out on 
Polei.  Lots of stuff I was not aware of.

The kick off was a really pretty 380SEL, burgundy with an ok interior.  Some 
young fellow got it for $500 and drove it in to the shop with a complaint of a 
loud ticking in the engine.  The valve covers were off and the cams and rockers 
were on a table, with the replacement cams and rockers.

The ticking was caused by the lobes no longer being oval, but nubs, and the 
rocker faces were worn down at least 6mm.  The hex bolts took an hour of 
cleaning to remove the crud in the holes so that a hex tool could be inserted.  

No mention of any of the other fluids.  Based on what the brake fluid looked 
like (black as diesel oil), there was no maintenance done in at least five or 
six years.  Pretty sure the car had at least 25k miles since fluids were 
serviced.  The car only had 135k on the clock.  At least it a double row chain.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] I wonder if this is that car that was listed at $1100 forever and somebody bought it to try and flip it for profit

[clay via Mercedes]

I have a manual trans on the shelf that would fit in my SD.  No interest in 
doing that though

clay

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:46 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Mercedes 300D Coupe OM617A with 240D 4 speed Tranny
> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6050315435.html
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Re: [MBZ] SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have several non rusty bodies


On 3/19/2017 9:49 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

Well, there are going to be a bunch of great w126 bodied cars coming to the 
junk yards in the next few months.  There are a pack of them on CL that just 
will  not find new homes given the asking prices.  There are too few buyers 
with knowledge enough to put the petrol engines back to good.

clay



On Mar 18, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

Fired up the rusty SDL today.  It has been sitting since last May; 10 months.  
Hooked up the battery, glow, and turned the key.  Off she went!  I wish I had a 
good 126 body to transplant the heart of this SDL into. It is not the half 
million miles that is doing in this one, it is the rust.

It is a crying shame Tim let Wilton's SDL sit around.  It is probably green 
inside and out now.

SDLs are GREAT cars.  OM603 is an outstanding engine.

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Re: [MBZ] SDL

[clay via Mercedes]

Well, there are going to be a bunch of great w126 bodied cars coming to the 
junk yards in the next few months.  There are a pack of them on CL that just 
will  not find new homes given the asking prices.  There are too few buyers 
with knowledge enough to put the petrol engines back to good.

clay


> On Mar 18, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fired up the rusty SDL today.  It has been sitting since last May; 10 months. 
>  Hooked up the battery, glow, and turned the key.  Off she went!  I wish I 
> had a good 126 body to transplant the heart of this SDL into. It is not the 
> half million miles that is doing in this one, it is the rust.
> 
> It is a crying shame Tim let Wilton's SDL sit around.  It is probably green 
> inside and out now.
> 
> SDLs are GREAT cars.  OM603 is an outstanding engine.
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

[clay via Mercedes]

I just did yesterday.  Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the air.

Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late.  We have 
been pals since I got Gump.  He has all manner of manuals and deep research.

ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed the Mercedes Source 
rebuild kit.  Much money and instructions.  Then he looked online (being big on 
research) and the part is $18, no longer a rebuild item.  It comes all as a 
unit and is used on IP from 1965-1985 (OM617).  I have no idea what it does, 
but seems it needs replaced on my SD.  Just because.

clay


> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/361825-performance-overflow-valve.html
> 
> -D
> 
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[MBZ] What the retro bus/RV could become

[clay via Mercedes]

https://youtu.be/KipEWECwjx8 

Better time spent getting this set up than messing about with worn out Benz.  
For Kaleb, not me.

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Re: [MBZ] Photographer of the week

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Ran before I lost the keys, is that a variation of "Ran when parked"?

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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Probably up to the sponsor.  You need to find a new Bimby.

-D


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting, nobody flew me out to any of the recent q
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Fly me and the spouse out and we’ll make some.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Poos should make some at the OkieQ
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Its barbecue, prepared Korean style, I thought a smart guy like you would 
 get that. ;)
 Seriously if you've never had K-Q you owe it to yourself...
 -Curt
 
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[MBZ] OT - Milk

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

was: OT Winter won't stop!
Andrew wrote:
> That term is so 1950s.

1950s - How was a gallon of milk packaged?
Plastic as we see today?  Are there cardboard gallons?
tin.tin

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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Interesting, nobody flew me out to any of the recent q

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Fly me and the spouse out and we’ll make some.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Poos should make some at the OkieQ
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Its barbecue, prepared Korean style, I thought a smart guy like you would 
>>> get that. ;)
>>> Seriously if you've never had K-Q you owe it to yourself...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Fly me and the spouse out and we’ll make some.

-D


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Poos should make some at the OkieQ
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Its barbecue, prepared Korean style, I thought a smart guy like you would 
>> get that. ;)
>> Seriously if you've never had K-Q you owe it to yourself...
>> -Curt
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[MBZ] 240D Euro

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/122399138549

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Maine hermit

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Max wrote:
> Very strange indeed.  What will he do after serving his sentence?  Disappear 
> again, I'll reckon.  How many more like him are out there?

There should me more like him?  I like his chutzpah.  Sounded like he
doesn't like stealing briefs and food and books but he got hungry,
so...  It sounded like he is not in jail?
tin.tin

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[MBZ] Photographer of the week

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Mercedes SEL 560
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6050804378.html

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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Poos should make some at the OkieQ

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Its barbecue, prepared Korean style, I thought a smart guy like you would get 
> that. ;)
> Seriously if you've never had K-Q you owe it to yourself...
> -Curt
> 
> 
>  From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun
> 
> What the heck is Korean BBQ?
> 
> I will post my adventures shortly. I have only been out working in the shop a 
> couple of hours but I am still feeling lazy and am about ready to go sit 
> down. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pick up around the garage, maybe wash the oak pollen off the 300SEL so it 
>> doesn’t look like it’s flocked.  Got some friends coming over for Korean BBQ 
>> later on.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are you going to do the rest of the day?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://youtu.be/mKByyJOb6nk

Has a slight uneven cold idle which turns into a dead cylinder when hot, 
leaking lots of fuel into the ground. I removed manifold today.

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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Kaleb inquires:

>‎What the heck is Korean BBQ?

Dog.

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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its barbecue, prepared Korean style, I thought a smart guy like you would get 
that. ;)
Seriously if you've never had K-Q you owe it to yourself...
-Curt


  From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 4:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun
   
What the heck is Korean BBQ?

I will post my adventures shortly. I have only been out working in the shop a 
couple of hours but I am still feeling lazy and am about ready to go sit down. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pick up around the garage, maybe wash the oak pollen off the 300SEL so it 
> doesn’t look like it’s flocked.  Got some friends coming over for Korean BBQ 
> later on.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What are you going to do the rest of the day?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I tied a bunch of knots in a heavy piece of rope so they made a big bundle, put 
the bundle of knots under the ramp, laid the rest of the rope out so when I 
drove up on the ramps the rope would be under the tires of the car. Once the 
tire hit the front of the ramp the rope can't come through. Worked slicker than 
snot when I had my 240D. The 190D needed a piece of 2x8 laid before the leading 
edge of the ramp to get the front clip up over the ramp but that still worked 
pretty good.
-Curt


  From: Larry Turner via Mercedes 
 To: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
Cc: Larry Turner 
 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 10:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot
   
good idea!

LarryT


On 03/19/2017 8:44 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I have a set of huge metal ramps that I have had for about 25 years that will 
> slide out from under car as you try to drive on them, so I have to put a 
> piece of carpet or old floor mat under them, then they don't slide.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> That's why I don't like metal ramps - they have always started to slide when 
>> I tried to drive onto them.  I guess the concrete surface where I was 
>> working was too slick for them?  I was thinking that perhaps there are some 
>> kind of hard foam/plastic ramps that will support the car, and be light 
>> enough to move around and will be easy to drive on and won't slide across 
>> concrete.
>>
>> Of course a lift would be ideal.
>>
>> LarryT
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 03/18/2017 1:40 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I bought a couple of ramps and used them for the first oil change on the 
>>> Prius. Drove it up on the ramps with some uncertainty about how far to go, 
>>> but it turned out to be almost centered.
>>> When I tried to back off the ramps after the oil change, the car just 
>>> dropped to the pavement with a loud screeching noise and I thought sh*t! 
>>> I'm afraid to look at how much damage the ramps have done to the Prius.
>>> I had put on the emergency brake (rear wheels only) and forgotten that the 
>>> Prius was front wheel drive. When I tried to back off, the front wheels had 
>>> slid the ramps forward which let the Prius roll down the ramps with no 
>>> damage. Big duh! but much gratitude to the gaurdian angel who sometimes 
>>> looks out for DIYers.
>>> 
 I've always worried about doing that very thing. Interestingly I've never 
 been able to drive either of the VWs up onto my ramps as they're too steep 
 for the front clip.
 -Curt

        From: Craig via Mercedes 
  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Cc: Craig 
  Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 5:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot
    On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:27:53 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
  wrote:


>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> March 17, 2017 at 4:01 PM
>> Remember the paper towel I used to shield my hand when I picked up
>> the housing out of the oven? The corner of it was stuck under the air
>> flap in the intake of the fuel distributor, with the rest of it just
>> laying on top. The MN gods must have been holding on to it so it
>> didn’t get ingested into the engine.
>>
>> 
>>
>> So that was my “I can’t believe I did that!” moment for the week. Or
>> hopefully, the month.
> When I cranked up the OM616 I got from mao, I forgot to take out the
> blue paper towel I had stuffed in the intake to keep the birds and the
> bees out of the intake.  It ran kind of rough for a while, and
> eventually smoothed out.  When I shut it off, the blue towel was on the
> ground, somewhat shredded, having been spit out the exhaust manifold.
> Somehow, it made the whole trip through the engine.  425 PSI can pretty
> effectively blow it out I guess.
 A couple of days ago, I was starting to change the differential gear oil
 on the Big Red Van. I could roll under the van on a creeper, but it was
 rather tight. So, I backed the van up onto two car ramps to increase the
 clearance. At one point, I wasn't sure I was on top of the ramps, so I
 backed up a little more. The rear wheels then went off the vertical end
 of the ramps and bounced on the floor. Fortunately, the BRV has lots of
 clearance, so it didn't touch the ramps when it came down. It was only
 embarrasing, not damaging like it would have been if I had done this in
 the Benz ...


 Craig

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[MBZ] Ought to win a photography award

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

https://worcester.craigslist.org/hvo/5978464038.html


-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Maine hermit

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Very strange indeed.  What will he do after serving his sentence?  Disappear 
again, I'll reckon.  How many more like him are out there?
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On March 19, 2017 5:19:02 PM EDT, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Curt - the word "camp" came up in a story about a hermit in Maine -
>Maybe you know this guy? - Christopher Knight stole goods from camps
>around North Pond in upstate Maine.  The guy sounds interesting:
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/mar/15/stranger-in-the-woods-christopher-knight-hermit-maine
>
>http://www.npr.org/podcasts/449018144/snap-judgment
>
>http://www.gq.com/story/the-last-true-hermit
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Winter won't stop! Make it stop!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That term is so 1950s. I suppose your heroes will always be Joe McCarthy
and Roy Cohn. How ironic that their spiritual successors Trump and bunion
are rabid Kremlin apologists

On Mar 18, 2017 11:30 AM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Cambridge is a nuclear-free zone.  The sign is (was) just up the street on
> Mass Ave from the nuclear reactor at MIT.
>
> Andrew must be in heaven to be in Cambridge among all the fellow travelers.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 3/17/17 10:41 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Anybody got an RFID tag on albore?  He must have had a global warning
>> scam event in Binghamton, NY.
>>
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>> March 17, 2017 at 9:38 PM
>>> Here in Boston/Cambridge it's 25 - 40.
>>>
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[MBZ] OT - Maine hermit

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curt - the word "camp" came up in a story about a hermit in Maine -
Maybe you know this guy? - Christopher Knight stole goods from camps
around North Pond in upstate Maine.  The guy sounds interesting:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/mar/15/stranger-in-the-woods-christopher-knight-hermit-maine

http://www.npr.org/podcasts/449018144/snap-judgment

http://www.gq.com/story/the-last-true-hermit

tin.tin

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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

You will not need any special customs clearance for that

On Mar 19, 2017 8:37 AM, "Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes" <
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> It's NOS for less than what I can find a used one for.
>
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> > What's so special about this differential that you can only find one
> > overseas?
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Whoops!

Wrong recipe.  This is what I’m cooking:

http://www.koreanbapsang.com/2010/05/bulgogi-korean-bbq-beef.html

Bulgogi, not galbi.

Also yum.

-D




> On Mar 19, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What the heck is Korean BBQ?
> 
> I will post my adventures shortly. I have only been out working in the shop a 
> couple of hours but I am still feeling lazy and am about ready to go sit 
> down. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pick up around the garage, maybe wash the oak pollen off the 300SEL so it 
>> doesn’t look like it’s flocked.  Got some friends coming over for Korean BBQ 
>> later on.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are you going to do the rest of the day?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://www.koreanbapsang.com/2010/06/galbikalbi-korean-bbq-short-ribs.html

I make it with the ends of a beef tenderloin rather than short ribs.  Yum.

In Korea they prepare this stuff right at the table on butane burners.  The 
cooks stand there and turn the beef while cutting it into smaller pieces with a 
pair of shears.

-D



> On Mar 19, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What the heck is Korean BBQ?
> 
> I will post my adventures shortly. I have only been out working in the shop a 
> couple of hours but I am still feeling lazy and am about ready to go sit 
> down. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pick up around the garage, maybe wash the oak pollen off the 300SEL so it 
>> doesn’t look like it’s flocked.  Got some friends coming over for Korean BBQ 
>> later on.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are you going to do the rest of the day?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

What the heck is Korean BBQ?

I will post my adventures shortly. I have only been out working in the shop a 
couple of hours but I am still feeling lazy and am about ready to go sit down. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pick up around the garage, maybe wash the oak pollen off the 300SEL so it 
> doesn’t look like it’s flocked.  Got some friends coming over for Korean BBQ 
> later on.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What are you going to do the rest of the day?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Pick up around the garage, maybe wash the oak pollen off the 300SEL so it 
doesn’t look like it’s flocked.  Got some friends coming over for Korean BBQ 
later on.

-D


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What are you going to do the rest of the day?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That's it.  I might prove that I have a good set of used injectors to keep 
handy on the shelf.

Not going to happen today, SWMBO has scheduled the rest of the afternoon.
-- 
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'95 E300

On March 19, 2017 2:47:43 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Other than time and a set of heat shields, what do you have to lose?
>
>-D
>
>
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Yesterday I pulled the injector set from The White Whale and mailed
>them back to Mark Blevins to get the pressures set correctly.
>> 
>> I'm tempted to try cleaning up the two that had no heat shields,
>reinstall the old set, and see how the car runs.  That would be double
>work, but might validate my theory, and the car wouldn't be sitting for
>several days waiting for the injectors.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

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What are you going to do the rest of the day?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Done.
> 
> Got everything back together without a great deal of effort.  Tensioned the 
> new belt before tightening the 19mm bolt.  Made a fan pulley holding tool 
> from a “J” hook and a pencil.  Temporary, but now I have a template for a 
> tool I can make at a later date.
> 
> Still got a little squeal on startup which sounds like the air pump based on 
> the mechanic’s stethoscope.  I may have to go to the pre-airpump engine belt 
> and just eliminate the air pump.
> 
> I’m done for the day, other than some cleaning up. Last big job will be the 
> driveshaft center bearing and the front flex disc.  Bearing and carrier 
> should be here by Tuesday, but I expect I’ll do the job next weekend due to 
> the amount of time it will take.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just got done cleaning what I suspect was about a half pound of belt 
>> dressing off the various pulleys.  Oy!
>> 
>> I just figured there was some bits of old belt stuck in the grooves of some 
>> of the pulleys, but when I went at the stuff with a small slotted 
>> screwdriver I found that it was putty-like and quite sticky.  Fortunately, 
>> brake cleaner breaks it down well, so all of the pulleys got an initial 
>> scrape to remove what I could and break up the surface, then a soaking in 
>> brake cleaner, another scrape, another soak, then a brass brush run all the 
>> way around until the grooves were clean.
>> 
>> Jeez, I even found the stuff on the outer edge of the fan pulley which the 
>> back of the belt contacts.  Grr.
>> 
>> A quick respite for some sustenance and back out for reassembly.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Other than time and a set of heat shields, what do you have to lose?

-D


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I pulled the injector set from The White Whale and mailed them back 
> to Mark Blevins to get the pressures set correctly.
> 
> I'm tempted to try cleaning up the two that had no heat shields, reinstall 
> the old set, and see how the car runs.  That would be double work, but might 
> validate my theory, and the car wouldn't be sitting for several days waiting 
> for the injectors.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Done.

Got everything back together without a great deal of effort.  Tensioned the new 
belt before tightening the 19mm bolt.  Made a fan pulley holding tool from a 
“J” hook and a pencil.  Temporary, but now I have a template for a tool I can 
make at a later date.

Still got a little squeal on startup which sounds like the air pump based on 
the mechanic’s stethoscope.  I may have to go to the pre-airpump engine belt 
and just eliminate the air pump.

I’m done for the day, other than some cleaning up. Last big job will be the 
driveshaft center bearing and the front flex disc.  Bearing and carrier should 
be here by Tuesday, but I expect I’ll do the job next weekend due to the amount 
of time it will take.

-D



> On Mar 19, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just got done cleaning what I suspect was about a half pound of belt dressing 
> off the various pulleys.  Oy!
> 
> I just figured there was some bits of old belt stuck in the grooves of some 
> of the pulleys, but when I went at the stuff with a small slotted screwdriver 
> I found that it was putty-like and quite sticky.  Fortunately, brake cleaner 
> breaks it down well, so all of the pulleys got an initial scrape to remove 
> what I could and break up the surface, then a soaking in brake cleaner, 
> another scrape, another soak, then a brass brush run all the way around until 
> the grooves were clean.
> 
> Jeez, I even found the stuff on the outer edge of the fan pulley which the 
> back of the belt contacts.  Grr.
> 
> A quick respite for some sustenance and back out for reassembly.
> 
> -D
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yesterday I pulled the injector set from The White Whale and mailed them back 
to Mark Blevins to get the pressures set correctly.

I'm tempted to try cleaning up the two that had no heat shields, reinstall the 
old set, and see how the car runs.  That would be double work, but might 
validate my theory, and the car wouldn't be sitting for several days waiting 
for the injectors.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 19, 2017 12:02:03 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Just got done cleaning what I suspect was about a half pound of belt
>dressing off the various pulleys.  Oy!
>
>I just figured there was some bits of old belt stuck in the grooves of
>some of the pulleys, but when I went at the stuff with a small slotted
>screwdriver I found that it was putty-like and quite sticky. 
>Fortunately, brake cleaner breaks it down well, so all of the pulleys
>got an initial scrape to remove what I could and break up the surface,
>then a soaking in brake cleaner, another scrape, another soak, then a
>brass brush run all the way around until the grooves were clean.
>
>Jeez, I even found the stuff on the outer edge of the fan pulley which
>the back of the belt contacts.  Grr.
>
>A quick respite for some sustenance and back out for reassembly.
>
>-D
>
>
>
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> No car stuff yesterday.  I needed a mental health day from cars…
>> 
>> So this morning against my better judgement I figured I would replace
>the belt tensioner on the 300SEL.  I wasn’t looking forward to this
>job, as I recalled it being a real PITA on the oldest son’s former 300E
>2.6.
>> 
>> It was amazingly easy, almost scary in that regard, as I got it
>completely torn apart in under 30 minutes.
>> 
>> So now I’ll go back out and clean parts and begin the reassembly.  If
>anyone has any pointers/suggestions on properly tensioning the belt on
>an M103 I’m all ears.  I’ve read what I can from the manuals and
>various forums, but none of it seems that clear cut.  I’ve got a new
>tensioner and a pointer for it, as the old one had no pointer.  The
>idler pulley on it was shot, that is, the bearing, as it made a
>“ticking” noise when you spun it.
>> 
>> The belt that is on the engine is good, but I think I've got a new
>one.  Gotta dig around in the new parts inventory to see if it’s there.
>I’ll need to clean all the pulleys on the engine and related components
>as the grooves are all filled with cruft from either crud or a failed
>previous belt that left remnants behind.
>> 
>> This is good.  I feel a lot better about this now that it came apart
>so easily.
>> 
>> I’m going to check the fan clutch to make sure it’s full of fluid,
>too.  If not I’ll add some.
>> 
>> -D
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[MBZ] Uro part?

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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

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Yes

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What car?  '98 E300?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> It's NOS for less than what I can find a used one for.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What's so special about this differential that you can only find one
>>> overseas?
>>> 
>>> -
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Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

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Just got done cleaning what I suspect was about a half pound of belt dressing 
off the various pulleys.  Oy!

I just figured there was some bits of old belt stuck in the grooves of some of 
the pulleys, but when I went at the stuff with a small slotted screwdriver I 
found that it was putty-like and quite sticky.  Fortunately, brake cleaner 
breaks it down well, so all of the pulleys got an initial scrape to remove what 
I could and break up the surface, then a soaking in brake cleaner, another 
scrape, another soak, then a brass brush run all the way around until the 
grooves were clean.

Jeez, I even found the stuff on the outer edge of the fan pulley which the back 
of the belt contacts.  Grr.

A quick respite for some sustenance and back out for reassembly.

-D



> On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No car stuff yesterday.  I needed a mental health day from cars…
> 
> So this morning against my better judgement I figured I would replace the 
> belt tensioner on the 300SEL.  I wasn’t looking forward to this job, as I 
> recalled it being a real PITA on the oldest son’s former 300E 2.6.
> 
> It was amazingly easy, almost scary in that regard, as I got it completely 
> torn apart in under 30 minutes.
> 
> So now I’ll go back out and clean parts and begin the reassembly.  If anyone 
> has any pointers/suggestions on properly tensioning the belt on an M103 I’m 
> all ears.  I’ve read what I can from the manuals and various forums, but none 
> of it seems that clear cut.  I’ve got a new tensioner and a pointer for it, 
> as the old one had no pointer.  The idler pulley on it was shot, that is, the 
> bearing, as it made a “ticking” noise when you spun it.
> 
> The belt that is on the engine is good, but I think I've got a new one.  
> Gotta dig around in the new parts inventory to see if it’s there.  I’ll need 
> to clean all the pulleys on the engine and related components as the grooves 
> are all filled with cruft from either crud or a failed previous belt that 
> left remnants behind.
> 
> This is good.  I feel a lot better about this now that it came apart so 
> easily.
> 
> I’m going to check the fan clutch to make sure it’s full of fluid, too.  If 
> not I’ll add some.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

What car?  '98 E300?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> It's NOS for less than what I can find a used one for.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > What's so special about this differential that you can only find one
> > overseas?
> >
> > -
> > Max
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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

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It's NOS for less than what I can find a used one for. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> 
> What's so special about this differential that you can only find one
> overseas?
> 
> -
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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Somewhere in a city near you is a very specialized operation called a
"Freight Forwarder". Find them, because it is their specialty to know all
the customs issues, who ships what and on what schedule, for overseas
shipments.

They will charge for their services, but it will be money well spent to
have a professional handle customs clearance on both ends and shipping
arrangements.

Customs and Import people are VERY anal when it comes to having the correct
documents .. any little thing and your shipment gets set in "Customs
Impound" until it gets cleared up.. could take a month before you even find
where it's been sent to be held.. Government speed you know..

Over the past 30 years, I've spent thousands with Freight Forwarders and
Customs Clearance people and never regretted a dime of it.


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> Yeah, that’s container shipment for sure. Probably about a month.
>
> I’ve shipped big stuff overseas on a “space available” arrangement with
> DHL and other carriers.  If you call them up and talk to their logistics
> people they will tell you how to do it.  You don’t know whether the item
> will go in a couple of days or weeks.  It’s definitely not something I
> would do around the holidays.
>
> I shipped an 8kW marine generator (800 pounds, probably 2’ x 3’ x 6’ in a
> crate) with DHL one time and it only took about 10 days and was pretty
> cheap, relatively speaking.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sure it's on the slow boat because shipping was around $90 I believe.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

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What's so special about this differential that you can only find one
overseas?

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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, if there was a negative about my wooden ramps it would be that they’re 
long, maybe 5’, and it makes it harder to get under the car some times.  In 
fact, I rarely drive on them, I usually just jack the car up and slide them 
under the wheel.  The bad part about that is that they’re so long I have to 
turn them the opposite direction because otherwise I couldn’t get the jack 
under the jack points on the rockers.

-D


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:45 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have made a couple of different sets out of 3/4" plywood. The 1st set was 
> taller and wider than most and was used for an old Chevy pickup. The newer 
> set has longer ramps so that they work with modern cars with low front 
> valances. The other benefit with them is that they are much easier to drive 
> up onto so one is less likely to drive too far forward. The only downside is 
> that longer ramps interfere more if one is trying to get under the car from 
> the side. I originally got the idea for these from a Hotrod or maybe CARCRAFT 
> magazine back about 1970.I have had the metal ramps too but they were too 
> steep for my 86 Taurus so I gave them to my b-in-l and built the 2nd set 
> noted above. Not sure what became of the 1st set. They were out at the 
> cottage for years but my mother must have disposed of them in some manner.
> 
> 


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[MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No car stuff yesterday.  I needed a mental health day from cars…

So this morning against my better judgement I figured I would replace the belt 
tensioner on the 300SEL.  I wasn’t looking forward to this job, as I recalled 
it being a real PITA on the oldest son’s former 300E 2.6.

It was amazingly easy, almost scary in that regard, as I got it completely torn 
apart in under 30 minutes.

So now I’ll go back out and clean parts and begin the reassembly.  If anyone 
has any pointers/suggestions on properly tensioning the belt on an M103 I’m all 
ears.  I’ve read what I can from the manuals and various forums, but none of it 
seems that clear cut.  I’ve got a new tensioner and a pointer for it, as the 
old one had no pointer.  The idler pulley on it was shot, that is, the bearing, 
as it made a “ticking” noise when you spun it.

The belt that is on the engine is good, but I think I've got a new one.  Gotta 
dig around in the new parts inventory to see if it’s there.  I’ll need to clean 
all the pulleys on the engine and related components as the grooves are all 
filled with cruft from either crud or a failed previous belt that left remnants 
behind.

This is good.  I feel a lot better about this now that it came apart so easily.

I’m going to check the fan clutch to make sure it’s full of fluid, too.  If not 
I’ll add some.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, that’s container shipment for sure. Probably about a month.

I’ve shipped big stuff overseas on a “space available” arrangement with DHL and 
other carriers.  If you call them up and talk to their logistics people they 
will tell you how to do it.  You don’t know whether the item will go in a 
couple of days or weeks.  It’s definitely not something I would do around the 
holidays.

I shipped an 8kW marine generator (800 pounds, probably 2’ x 3’ x 6’ in a 
crate) with DHL one time and it only took about 10 days and was pretty cheap, 
relatively speaking.

-D

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm sure it's on the slow boat because shipping was around $90 I believe. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

I have made a couple of different sets out of 3/4" plywood. The 1st set was 
taller and wider than most and was used for an old Chevy pickup. The newer set 
has longer ramps so that they work with modern cars with low front valances. 
The other benefit with them is that they are much easier to drive up onto so 
one is less likely to drive too far forward. The only downside is that longer 
ramps interfere more if one is trying to get under the car from the side. I 
originally got the idea for these from a Hotrod or maybe CARCRAFT magazine back 
about 1970.I have had the metal ramps too but they were too steep for my 86 
Taurus so I gave them to my b-in-l and built the 2nd set noted above. Not sure 
what became of the 1st set. They were out at the cottage for years but my 
mother must have disposed of them in some manner.


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
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 Date: 2017-03-19  7:46 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
List  Cc: Dan Penoff  Subject: Re: 
[MBZ] I am an Idiot 
I have wooden ramps made with 2x12 lumber stacked up in layers.  No way those 
will collapse.  I never trusted the metal ramps, and I had the same issues with 
them sliding across the floor when I tried to drive up on them.

-D


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's why I don't like metal ramps - they have always started to slide when 
> I tried to drive onto them.  I guess the concrete surface where I was working 
> was too slick for them?  I was thinking that perhaps there are some kind of 
> hard foam/plastic ramps that will support the car, and be light enough to 
> move around and will be easy to drive on and won't slide across concrete.
> 
> Of course a lift would be ideal.
> 
> LarryT
> 


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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

good idea!

LarryT


On 03/19/2017 8:44 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I have a set of huge metal ramps that I have had for about 25 years that will 
slide out from under car as you try to drive on them, so I have to put a piece 
of carpet or old floor mat under them, then they don't slide.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes  
wrote:

That's why I don't like metal ramps - they have always started to slide when I 
tried to drive onto them.  I guess the concrete surface where I was working was 
too slick for them?  I was thinking that perhaps there are some kind of hard 
foam/plastic ramps that will support the car, and be light enough to move 
around and will be easy to drive on and won't slide across concrete.

Of course a lift would be ideal.

LarryT




On 03/18/2017 1:40 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
I bought a couple of ramps and used them for the first oil change on the Prius. 
Drove it up on the ramps with some uncertainty about how far to go, but it 
turned out to be almost centered.
When I tried to back off the ramps after the oil change, the car just dropped 
to the pavement with a loud screeching noise and I thought sh*t! I'm afraid to 
look at how much damage the ramps have done to the Prius.
I had put on the emergency brake (rear wheels only) and forgotten that the 
Prius was front wheel drive. When I tried to back off, the front wheels had 
slid the ramps forward which let the Prius roll down the ramps with no damage. 
Big duh! but much gratitude to the gaurdian angel who sometimes looks out for 
DIYers.


I've always worried about doing that very thing. Interestingly I've never been 
able to drive either of the VWs up onto my ramps as they're too steep for the 
front clip.
-Curt

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On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:27:53 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 17, 2017 at 4:01 PM
Remember the paper towel I used to shield my hand when I picked up
the housing out of the oven? The corner of it was stuck under the air
flap in the intake of the fuel distributor, with the rest of it just
laying on top. The MN gods must have been holding on to it so it
didn’t get ingested into the engine.



So that was my “I can’t believe I did that!” moment for the week. Or
hopefully, the month.

When I cranked up the OM616 I got from mao, I forgot to take out the
blue paper towel I had stuffed in the intake to keep the birds and the
bees out of the intake.  It ran kind of rough for a while, and
eventually smoothed out.  When I shut it off, the blue towel was on the
ground, somewhat shredded, having been spit out the exhaust manifold.
Somehow, it made the whole trip through the engine.  425 PSI can pretty
effectively blow it out I guess.

A couple of days ago, I was starting to change the differential gear oil
on the Big Red Van. I could roll under the van on a creeper, but it was
rather tight. So, I backed the van up onto two car ramps to increase the
clearance. At one point, I wasn't sure I was on top of the ramps, so I
backed up a little more. The rear wheels then went off the vertical end
of the ramps and bounced on the floor. Fortunately, the BRV has lots of
clearance, so it didn't touch the ramps when it came down. It was only
embarrasing, not damaging like it would have been if I had done this in
the Benz ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I'm sure it's on the slow boat because shipping was around $90 I believe. 

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Holy mother of pearl!  A differential?
> 
> If it’s going surface you’re looking at a good 3-4 weeks.  That would be in a 
> containerized shipment.  If it’s going air, maybe a week-10 days.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> A differential 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Holy mother of pearl!  A differential?

If it’s going surface you’re looking at a good 3-4 weeks.  That would be in a 
containerized shipment.  If it’s going air, maybe a week-10 days.

-D


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> A differential 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

My Monark nozzles didn't take long, but I'm pretty sure they came by air.
I doubt that a differential would fly, it'll probably take the slow boat.
I'd say a month is a good bet, maybe a little longer.  I think it is about
10 - 14 days for the transit between continents, and then you've got
customs on this side which adds a few more days.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> A differential
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> > On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> > Depends on how they sent it and how big it is.
> >
> > I got a set of Monark nozzles from Germany in roughly a week by DHL.  I
> would think something like this form the UK would be the equivalent.  What
> are you shipping?
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >> How long does it take on average to get something shipped from GB? A
> month? Longer? Less?
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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

A differential 

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Depends on how they sent it and how big it is.
> 
> I got a set of Monark nozzles from Germany in roughly a week by DHL.  I would 
> think something like this form the UK would be the equivalent.  What are you 
> shipping?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> How long does it take on average to get something shipped from GB? A month? 
>> Longer? Less? 
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Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Depends on how they sent it and how big it is.

I got a set of Monark nozzles from Germany in roughly a week by DHL.  I would 
think something like this form the UK would be the equivalent.  What are you 
shipping?

-D


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

If I would ever get out to the shop and get the lift bolted down I would start 
using that. 

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have wooden ramps made with 2x12 lumber stacked up in layers.  No way those 
> will collapse.  I never trusted the metal ramps, and I had the same issues 
> with them sliding across the floor when I tried to drive up on them.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's why I don't like metal ramps - they have always started to slide when 
>> I tried to drive onto them.  I guess the concrete surface where I was 
>> working was too slick for them?  I was thinking that perhaps there are some 
>> kind of hard foam/plastic ramps that will support the car, and be light 
>> enough to move around and will be easy to drive on and won't slide across 
>> concrete.
>> 
>> Of course a lift would be ideal.
>> 
>> LarryT
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[MBZ] Overseas shipping?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

How long does it take on average to get something shipped from GB? A month? 
Longer? Less? 

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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have wooden ramps made with 2x12 lumber stacked up in layers.  No way those 
will collapse.  I never trusted the metal ramps, and I had the same issues with 
them sliding across the floor when I tried to drive up on them.

-D


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's why I don't like metal ramps - they have always started to slide when 
> I tried to drive onto them.  I guess the concrete surface where I was working 
> was too slick for them?  I was thinking that perhaps there are some kind of 
> hard foam/plastic ramps that will support the car, and be light enough to 
> move around and will be easy to drive on and won't slide across concrete.
> 
> Of course a lift would be ideal.
> 
> LarryT
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[MBZ] I wonder if this is that car that was listed at $1100 forever and somebody bought it to try and flip it for profit

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Mercedes 300D Coupe OM617A with 240D 4 speed Tranny
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6050315435.html

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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a set of huge metal ramps that I have had for about 25 years that will 
slide out from under car as you try to drive on them, so I have to put a piece 
of carpet or old floor mat under them, then they don't slide.

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's why I don't like metal ramps - they have always started to slide when 
> I tried to drive onto them.  I guess the concrete surface where I was working 
> was too slick for them?  I was thinking that perhaps there are some kind of 
> hard foam/plastic ramps that will support the car, and be light enough to 
> move around and will be easy to drive on and won't slide across concrete.
> 
> Of course a lift would be ideal.
> 
> LarryT
> 
> 
> 
>> On 03/18/2017 1:40 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> I bought a couple of ramps and used them for the first oil change on the 
>> Prius. Drove it up on the ramps with some uncertainty about how far to go, 
>> but it turned out to be almost centered.
>> When I tried to back off the ramps after the oil change, the car just 
>> dropped to the pavement with a loud screeching noise and I thought sh*t! I'm 
>> afraid to look at how much damage the ramps have done to the Prius.
>> I had put on the emergency brake (rear wheels only) and forgotten that the 
>> Prius was front wheel drive. When I tried to back off, the front wheels had 
>> slid the ramps forward which let the Prius roll down the ramps with no 
>> damage. Big duh! but much gratitude to the gaurdian angel who sometimes 
>> looks out for DIYers.
>> 
>>> I've always worried about doing that very thing. Interestingly I've never 
>>> been able to drive either of the VWs up onto my ramps as they're too steep 
>>> for the front clip.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>   From: Craig via Mercedes 
>>>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Craig 
>>>  Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 5:54 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot
>>>On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:27:53 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> March 17, 2017 at 4:01 PM
> Remember the paper towel I used to shield my hand when I picked up
> the housing out of the oven? The corner of it was stuck under the air
> flap in the intake of the fuel distributor, with the rest of it just
> laying on top. The MN gods must have been holding on to it so it
> didn’t get ingested into the engine.
> 
> 
> 
> So that was my “I can’t believe I did that!” moment for the week. Or
> hopefully, the month.
 When I cranked up the OM616 I got from mao, I forgot to take out the
 blue paper towel I had stuffed in the intake to keep the birds and the
 bees out of the intake.  It ran kind of rough for a while, and
 eventually smoothed out.  When I shut it off, the blue towel was on the
 ground, somewhat shredded, having been spit out the exhaust manifold.
 Somehow, it made the whole trip through the engine.  425 PSI can pretty
 effectively blow it out I guess.
>>> A couple of days ago, I was starting to change the differential gear oil
>>> on the Big Red Van. I could roll under the van on a creeper, but it was
>>> rather tight. So, I backed the van up onto two car ramps to increase the
>>> clearance. At one point, I wasn't sure I was on top of the ramps, so I
>>> backed up a little more. The rear wheels then went off the vertical end
>>> of the ramps and bounced on the floor. Fortunately, the BRV has lots of
>>> clearance, so it didn't touch the ramps when it came down. It was only
>>> embarrasing, not damaging like it would have been if I had done this in
>>> the Benz ...
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

That's why I don't like metal ramps - they have always started to slide 
when I tried to drive onto them.  I guess the concrete surface where I 
was working was too slick for them?  I was thinking that perhaps there 
are some kind of hard foam/plastic ramps that will support the car, and 
be light enough to move around and will be easy to drive on and won't 
slide across concrete.


Of course a lift would be ideal.

LarryT



On 03/18/2017 1:40 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

I bought a couple of ramps and used them for the first oil change on the Prius. 
Drove it up on the ramps with some uncertainty about how far to go, but it 
turned out to be almost centered.
When I tried to back off the ramps after the oil change, the car just dropped 
to the pavement with a loud screeching noise and I thought sh*t! I'm afraid to 
look at how much damage the ramps have done to the Prius.
I had put on the emergency brake (rear wheels only) and forgotten that the 
Prius was front wheel drive. When I tried to back off, the front wheels had 
slid the ramps forward which let the Prius roll down the ramps with no damage. 
Big duh! but much gratitude to the gaurdian angel who sometimes looks out for 
DIYers.


I've always worried about doing that very thing. Interestingly I've never been 
able to drive either of the VWs up onto my ramps as they're too steep for the 
front clip.
-Curt

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Cc: Craig 
  Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 5:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:27:53 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes

 wrote:



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 17, 2017 at 4:01 PM
Remember the paper towel I used to shield my hand when I picked up
the housing out of the oven? The corner of it was stuck under the air
flap in the intake of the fuel distributor, with the rest of it just
laying on top. The MN gods must have been holding on to it so it
didn’t get ingested into the engine.



So that was my “I can’t believe I did that!” moment for the week. Or
hopefully, the month.

When I cranked up the OM616 I got from mao, I forgot to take out the
blue paper towel I had stuffed in the intake to keep the birds and the
bees out of the intake.  It ran kind of rough for a while, and
eventually smoothed out.  When I shut it off, the blue towel was on the
ground, somewhat shredded, having been spit out the exhaust manifold.
Somehow, it made the whole trip through the engine.  425 PSI can pretty
effectively blow it out I guess.

A couple of days ago, I was starting to change the differential gear oil
on the Big Red Van. I could roll under the van on a creeper, but it was
rather tight. So, I backed the van up onto two car ramps to increase the
clearance. At one point, I wasn't sure I was on top of the ramps, so I
backed up a little more. The rear wheels then went off the vertical end
of the ramps and bounced on the floor. Fortunately, the BRV has lots of
clearance, so it didn't touch the ramps when it came down. It was only
embarrasing, not damaging like it would have been if I had done this in
the Benz ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] beware of A380s

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

you can also see those vortices when it's humid at F1 races as air is 
forced across the rear wings when the cars are on long straights or 
gentle curves.


LarryT


On 03/18/2017 11:26 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Back in the late 90s i took a BA flt BOS-LHR on a 747, first class on 
the upper deck.  Pilots left the door open the whole flight, taxi, 
takeoff, etc. and invited us in to come visit "once it is safe to move 
around the cabin."  Young pilots too, I was rossekinda surprised.  I 
sat with them for quite some time over the North Atlantic looking at 
stars out the windows.  It was fun.


On the wake turbulence aspect, that is related to lift and how an 
airplane wing actually works -- it causes a circulation of air around 
the wing when it is developing lift, and that circulating air rolls 
off the tip of the wing (you can see the tip vortices when it is 
humid) and then turns straight back and expands as it goes further 
back.  You can see that effect too when a big plane lands as it kicks 
up dust and stuff along the runway, then will abruptly stop when lift 
stops.  But that rotating air persists for quite some time for quite 
some distance and can really mess up anything that gets in it.  I 
recall seeing a vid of a Lear Jet tucking up behind a bigger jet (747 
maybe) and then all the sudden FULL ROLL!!!  It was at altitude and 
the pilot was prepared for it, so it was a planned maneuver but it was 
scary crazy to see that.


--FT


On 3/18/17 9:29 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I remember when I was a kid they used to let you go up to the 
cockpit. Seems strange now.




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